assassination

[cursive owl]

[oak tangle]

my nephew is going into grade 2 next year, and they're giving him an ipad to do his work on

[near valley]

Lol

I wish

[arctic hare]

oh thats some SERIOUS bull lmao

[near valley]

I had to go and buy notebook and pen

[cursive owl]

what m+ key is 467 and above ?

[arctic hare]

15?

[near valley]

Couldn't even use a laptop in class

[arctic hare]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[arctic hare]

oh

17 then.

[cursive owl]

Dang it

[oak sky]

ipads are actually really nice to take notes on

[near valley]

Well yeah ofc

[oak sky]

like half the people in my college classes have them

[cursive owl]

i will never be able to get into 17s

[arctic hare]

dude, its been a godsend in college man.

[oak tangle]

the year i graduated, the (middleschoolers??) like grade 8 all got laptops to use

[arctic hare]

that, is bullshit lmao

[oak sky]

we had an option to do ipad in high school tho

like you had to buy your own

[near valley]

Tbf it was when I was like 15 they gave us all chromebooks

[arctic hare]

we got these REALLY bad chromebooks, like, absolutely terrible

[oak sky]

but we could take notes on them and do work on them

[near valley]

But those mfers were like 50 bucks a piece

[oak sky]

we had chromebooks in class that we couldnt take home or anything

sometimes

[near valley]

No GeForce now back then

Sad times

[cursive owl]

imagine using a notebook in class

[near valley]

We could take ours home

[oak sky]

ours were like tied to each classroom or whatever

[near valley]

But those mfers were bad at most everything

[quiet oar]

I hope i can take you home

[near valley]

I hope you do and tie me up in the basement

[quiet oar]

[lime crypt]

unsee

unsee

[cursive owl]

so cute ppl here

[oak tangle]

my nephew stayed over the other week, and he loves minecraft, but he's only ever played it on his dad's ipad+. i downloaded it on my laptop for him to use, and he kept pushing the screen trying to use it like a touch screen, lil man had no clue what a mouse did

[near valley]

We had some like those but they were library ones

[arctic hare]

holy shit that makes me feel REALLY old.....

If I ever have kids, they're learning what a damned mouse and keyboard is.

[oak sky]

mkb isnt going anywhere

dont worry

[cursive owl]

i will never have kids gladly lel

[quiet oar]

You are jealous

[lime crypt]

maybe iam

[quiet oar]

This is the way

[near valley]

My kids will be trained in whatever esports game is popular at the time

I want an early retirement

[oak sky]

my kids will do whatever

[arctic hare]

lmao

[lime crypt]

you are wow player

chances are u wont ever touch a woman

[cursive owl]

if i will ever have a kid. he will get trained to farm gold like a multiboxer for me

[quiet oar]

[lime crypt]

femboys on the other hand tho

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-lick-fast-lick-cute-cat-cats-gif-27624519

[quiet oar]

[midnight atlas]

the quality of this channel sometimes makes me want to reroll

[arctic hare]

to what

a DH? where its even worse?

[oak tangle]

you're not playing sin yet?

[cursive owl]

too bad i know a lot of women who play wow or other games

[lime crypt]

stop flexing

send some my way

[arctic hare]

bro, they're so common, its wild

[cursive owl]

nah

[lime crypt]

wow

[cursive owl]

yeah

[quiet oar]

I mean its your choice to Open off-topic 2

[midnight atlas]

to sub, thats a gigachad channel

[oak tangle]

just go main neopets for a while

[arctic hare]

What, with their 2 buttons in AOE?

[cursive owl]

i dont send some , just go play more than your 100 keys a week and u met plently

[quiet oar]

How can a sub be a chad

A chad is more like a dom

[near valley]

There are quite a number of woman on the ol WoW

[cursive owl]

how is sub even alive ?

[oak tangle]

just go to old zones or join mog farming groups

[cursive owl]

sin is the best of all 3 sins u can get

[near valley]

The real struggle is differentiating from the many dudes that use female models and names

[lime crypt]

i only boost nowadays

i dont meet anyone new

[cursive owl]

your fault

[near valley]

Yes

[lime crypt]

gold tho

[arctic hare]

That gollllllllld though

[near valley]

Sin is one of the sins of all time

[arctic hare]

that moment when you're rewatching naruto for like, the fourth time.....

[cursive owl]

gold dont blow u or love u, its just imaginary currency in a life wasting big computergame

[near valley]

I deathroll for money

[near valley]

What if Gold is the name of a stripper?

[cursive owl]

well good point

depends on what u want no ?

[hot fulcrum]

When I was in school Ipads were not released yet(( And also in Ukraine we are prohibited to use any devices during lessons( At least it was when I was young.

[cursive owl]

humans are afraid to change. thats fact

[lime crypt]

nobody will ever love you except for yourself

women are distractions

#inceltake

[cursive owl]

i have 2 other women who tell u wrong

[lime crypt]

why 2

[cursive owl]

computergames are also

[lime crypt]

actually im scared to even ask

[cursive owl]

because i have a harem

wdym

why 2

[hot fulcrum]

mom and gf)

[lime crypt]

2 moms

[near valley]

Anime protagonist

[cursive owl]

i have good 2 friends who do love me for real

mom doesnt love me wdym

[lime crypt]

what makes them friends then

[cursive owl]

i wouldnt say their only frends

but its a sensitive topic so. i regret bringing that up

if possible we can pass on onto why sub things now their gigachads

[lime crypt]

sub deserve to be deleted

spit spit spit

hate it hate it

[junior yoke]

It looks like I hit +3% harder my buttons

But I do -3% dmg

What is going on? What am I doing wrong?

[cursive owl]

sub is submissive so fk em, sin is gigachad spec, i start a campain on forum to write hate posts about sub spec

[cursive owl]

u press the wrong buttons ?

[mossy gust]

Guys we dont need to spit on rogue spec

[junior yoke]

I just play with the mind

[torn escarp]

Hey guys. One question. Vanish on CD in M+, except there are some mechanics which I have to use to? Want provide my dmg. Think I’m holding too long in case of some things 😂

[mossy gust]

Lets start a War against mage

[junior yoke]

No way xd. I’ll only start a war vs dhs

[cursive owl]

vanis at kb window 3 sec before ends

why mages ?

[mossy gust]

Cuz mage is getting buff while being everywhere on high key

[balmy condor]

who cares about mage

you're a rogue

worry about yourself

[cursive owl]

whispyr daddy good morning

[mossy gust]

True

[cursive owl]

whispyr, can we make a hate campain against submissive rogues ?

[balmy condor]

too drunk

[cursive owl]

ok

[torn escarp]

Thanks 🙂

[near valley]

Not drunk enough

You can still type coherently

[cursive owl]

if u have it free and know u will jave it rdy in time at next boss, use it also

anyone have a good comm to join for m+ ?

[blazing jewel]

is it time for shitposting yet

[slim hamlet]

[slim hamlet]

Always time

[blazing jewel]

#iloveshadowdust(thiscdcansuckmyassrn)

[slim hamlet]

Yea I am officially a sub hater after learning it for smolderon

[cursive owl]

i like what scana said but i quiet dont understand it yet

[blazing jewel]

I came up with the galaxy brain tech of im going to shadowstep a monk healing statue so I can get better cd timing on p3 fyrakk

[slim hamlet]

[blazing jewel]

I need an iq test right now

[cursive owl]

[blazing jewel]

its either really high or really low

[cursive owl]

🤯

[slim hamlet]

I don't even know why shadowstepping a monk statue would ever help with CDs

So I would assume high IQ

[blazing jewel]

so fyrakk when he lands

[slim hamlet]

Oh

[blazing jewel]

knocks you up for like 6-7s

[slim hamlet]

But just like

[blazing jewel]

if you step its less

[slim hamlet]

Shadowstep fyrakk

?

[blazing jewel]

but if you step something that never leaves the ground

GIGABRAIN

[cursive owl]

imagine , shadowstep gnarloot in root phase

[slim hamlet]

I wonder how many of us died or almost died to that first week

I certainly popped cheat

[cursive owl]

and then u think about, why am i ded

[storm forum]

I did this

[cursive owl]

i did alsl

[storm forum]

It was uhh

Rip

[blazing jewel]

who else shadowstepped the bear on council during its charge

[cursive owl]

[blazing jewel]

I am very guilty of that one

[cursive owl]

me xD

[slim hamlet]

We not that stupid

Oh

Wait

[blazing jewel]

it is at that moment I decided I was going to fuck the deer instead of the bear

[slim hamlet]

Wait actually

[storm forum]

I stepped to the other mob and then got hit a second time, so basically the same thing

[slim hamlet]

I 100000% did it

I thought u meant like before it charged

But yea I am guilty of double hitting myself

[storm forum]

I did step to the bear in DHT though

Guilty of that

Bear boss charge

[slim hamlet]

Rough

[cursive owl]

oh

[slim hamlet]

Tanks are terrorists with that boss

It's actually wild

[quiet oar]

Not thst but, i tried shadowstepping with an mouseover in smoldy

[blazing jewel]

[quiet oar]

But his dump truck ass always catches me

[blazing jewel]

how did that go

[cursive owl]

i did ss into an other ally at the worm boss and try avoiding the slam from his tail. ended up walking towards the slam cause this mf turned towards the slam and used this hunter backjump and i straight up sprintet into the slam with ss

[slim hamlet]

Mouseover macroing step on sark and missing the friendly - > instant death behind sark

[quiet oar]

There was a big badaboom

[blazing jewel]

just teleport 20 times in 5 seconds to kite your orb

ggez

[slim hamlet]

Which orb

[blazing jewel]

mythic orb

[slim hamlet]

Oh

Smoldy

[cursive owl]

smoldy has orbs ?

[blazing jewel]

he is the ballmancer

[quiet oar]

I wanted to kite it

But

[storm forum]

Smoldy has like 5 orbs

[cursive owl]

ballmancer

[quiet oar]

I Also happen to be the one with the longest heal absorb uptime

[slim hamlet]

Doesn't smoldy only have 2 balls

[quiet oar]

3

1 got cut out

[cursive owl]

2 and a long swort ?

[slim hamlet]

Yes

2 different orbs

[slim hamlet]

Yap

[quiet oar]

He is a Triple baller

Rn

[slim hamlet]

8 ball actually

5 small, 3 big

[cursive owl]

oh

[blazing jewel]

I think if my big brain math is right

[cursive owl]

so he is actually the pool champion ?

[blazing jewel]

assuming no deaths

there are 312 balls on smolderon fight

excluding his own balls

[slim hamlet]

Why would u exclude them

[blazing jewel]

wait no it would be 324

[cursive owl]

scana is good with balls

i see

[blazing jewel]

[cursive owl]

so where are the balls ? i dont see them

is there a condition to get em ?

[near valley]

True and real

[cursive owl]

i didnt say any wrong no ?

[simple gulch]

What should I do to guarantee dagger drop

There's no way it's in the loot table

[slim hamlet]

Give a quickie to mr. Blizz

Only way

[simple gulch]

this is stupid

[slim hamlet]

We all had to do it, you're next in line

[simple gulch]

They should guarantee it at some point

I can't farm this forever

Just mail it to me please

what's one mailed item

nothing's gonna break

[oak tangle]

i was already onto this tech in BFA

[simple gulch]

can the dagger drop please

please

please

please

please

please

please

[analog socket]

You can always buy one of AH

Not the dagger you want but the dagger you get.

[simple gulch]

This shouldn't be happening

delete timestrike

it's enough i have to farm trinkets

now i have to farm some shitty weapon

[oak tangle]

timestrike is a meme

[simple gulch]

where is the dagger

[oak tangle]

that's 1x dagger

look out 1.1% damage

on smolderon too

don't get me wrong, it's a nice to have for free damage, but i'm pretty sure fight variance is more than it

[subtle tundra]

I wish I had 2nd dagger

63 falls almost a stack..

[simple gulch]

I won't feel free and satisfied

until i have the dagger

i can't even play my alts because I just keep logging on rogue to farm it

[oak tangle]

i got 1 and stopped

soul aint worth it

[simple gulch]

I'll stop when I get one

fuck 2

i'd kill myself before

if it takes this long to farm one

then 2 can forget it

[oak tangle]

how many runs in are you

cause the fatigue from not getting probs minus more than 1.1% damage

[subtle tundra]

I was hoping to drop a mythic raid dagger yet it never happened

[simple gulch]

idk probably 19

[oak tangle]

i'd love a mythic main hand

that's small numbers

[simple gulch]

not for me

im not one to farm 50 times for a dagger and be like eh

i just do 10 runs

or so

more than that i get very mad

as evident by me spamming here

[oak tangle]

i've done 40 and got 1

and im lucky

[simple gulch]

that's not lucky

they need to increase the droprate

[subtle tundra]

That's not lucky

[oak tangle]

compared to some

[simple gulch]

lucky

is getting it in 1 run

[oak tangle]

but it wasn't 40 till i got 1

i've done more since

[simple gulch]

honestly if i have to do 40 runs for the dagger

i'd commit soduku

[oak tangle]

it aint worth it

[simple gulch]

no shit

[subtle tundra]

I'm using only 1 and I'm almost done clearing the raid 👍🏻

[oak tangle]

go play dh and farm double time

XD

[quiet oar]

@keen spruce

What is the Chance to get nicholas

With 10 runs

[oak tangle]

6.66%

per run supposedly

[subtle tundra]

I hate statistics

[hard plaza]

QQ shadow dance does trigger indiscrimate carnage doesnt it

but only for 6 seconds right?

[subtle tundra]

Yes

[hard plaza]

merci

[oak tangle]

something not quite right

dont think it's a 1/300 drop

probs scuffed by people without a rogue

[subtle tundra]

Wowhead numbers are from player input

I choose to believe

[simple gulch]

Don't bother farming it

it's not gonna drop

[robust axle]

Do you ever use Shadow Dance in m+ without KB just to get dots rolling here in SPiteful weeks?

[near valley]

On the spiteful mobs or regular

Yes to the latter

Even on non spiteful weeks u can do that

B4 KB

[robust axle]

So Dance into garrotes->ruptures->Envonom->KB?

[slim hamlet]

Might aswell just use it with KB

U are only delaying by 2-3 gcds

[near valley]

Granted if ur doing a low key all of this is mute cause ur kb won't last long enough anywsy

[quiet oar]

I wont last with you anyways

[near valley]

I wish it'd last forever

[runic moon]

hey there, can somebody help me? my macros are not working, anyone have any idea why?

[near valley]

Well for one thing

It'd help to post the macro

[runic moon]

the ones on wowhead on the sin guide

[near valley]

Do you have the WA for tricks?

[runic moon]

yes

[near valley]

So is the vanish and tricks ones not working?

[runic moon]

shadowstep is not working on mouseover. deathmark is not using trinket and kingsbane + shadow dance is not working too

[proven kindle]

Hey, I wonder why 2 last ticks here did less dmg than the one before them. I see that I lost the branch buff for the last tick. But the second to last - I dont get it. All 3 hits was crit.

https://tiny.pl/c6qgm

I have shorten the link (it was stupidly long) 😄

[neat plank]

dropped some other buff that was not tracked here?

[flint marsh]

The boss amp fell off?

He takes half damage without amp

[near valley]

Maybe you have some unnecessary spaces

[balmy condor]

Yeah the boss amp fell off

[near valley]

Is this sober whispyr?

[balmy condor]

Seems pretty obvious

Kingsbane tick during amp big

503k was the normal tick dam, 100% increased to 1.06mil

Then you applied some more poisons, so the normal tick was 569 next time

And then the last tick should’ve been probably around 600-620k but you dropped the branch like you said

And lost around 20-25%

Which checks out

[dapper hound]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[timber dove]

So, now that I got 4p, do I ignore the sanguine blades?

[near valley]

Yes

[proven kindle]

Thank you! So I need to go faster

[storm cloak]

How’s every one doing

[proven kindle]

Last day of work today, for this year. So finally, I will have some time to work on my assassination.

[storm cloak]

Nice!

[simple gulch]

mechanical owns

[dusty zenith]

What do you mean ignore, we don’t take that talent?

[proven kindle]

I have already watched all the whispyr videos 😂 now is the time to practice

[balmy condor]

Yeh mechanical is a FAT 3% of my healing

[simple gulch]

hey man whisypr

can u bless me so I can get Nicholas to drop

[balmy condor]

When it bugs and ignores its cooldown

[balmy condor]

No

[simple gulch]

what the fuck

[balmy condor]

Blessings don’t work for nick

I’ve tried

[timber dove]

no, taking it, but not playing around having 50% energy all the god damn time D:

[simple gulch]

i assume u have it?

[dusty zenith]

Ahhh also. I see we should be using hissing runes over buzzing runes now?

[simple gulch]

sim it

[balmy condor]

I have my 1 yes

[simple gulch]

i have 0

there's no way

this isn't 0.1% droprate

worse than tusks

[normal mist]

Everytime a Nick drops, every rogue but the one who dropped it will have their chances of dropping lowered by 99%

It's a good luck protection technique

[simple gulch]

I need 2 rogues to come to my run

and trade it to me when it drops

[normal mist]

I've seen rogues paying for it that way yeah xD

[simple gulch]

non negotiable

no

for free

i ain't paying for pixels

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[balmy condor]

How many runs have you done

[dapper hound]

true, taking elusiveness above cheat death rn

[simple gulch]

idk 20

the last 3 days

[balmy condor]

Rough

[simple gulch]

yeah

can't chill irl

or ingame unless I get it

can't play my alts

because i log rogue just to farm the dagger

this isn't good for your health

they need to mail me the dagger

[dusty zenith]

I got a hero nick yesterday ran it about 7 times total id say

[rotund oak]

consider urself lucky

[junior yoke]

37 everblooms here, no trink in dung nor in vault

Ty for sharing

[dusty zenith]

Let me pour even more salt on that wound I ran a 18 bloom after I got the dagger and got the trinket lol

[junior yoke]

Kkaaay

Will block u

Bye

[dusty zenith]

I can prove it man

No cap

[junior yoke]

I trust you just for that I’ll block

[dusty zenith]

lol

If it makes you feel better it was my like 20th bloom run

[junior yoke]

It doen’t

Today will do my 38

[kind hare]

How do you prio rupture in AOE when AP build? the same as SD?

[halcyon hamlet]

Why the fuck is my outlaw outsimming my assasination?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ukREJ3sPAZUndro7fhKU5o

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wjZV837owQaP5Ud3C9LGgZ

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hFrpc85tezZxLFSSp3D3it

[sonic schooner]

:)

[orchid flume]

3% 🥲

[dusty zenith]

Is it better to use Sophic devotion over wafting devotion on weps?

[sonic schooner]

Mine are fun aswell

Can argue that I don't use wafting but sophic on this assa sim which is like -2.5% for my profile

[halcyon hamlet]

Goodbye assasination

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-i-dont-want-to-play-andy-woody-sad-gif-17075553

[kindred ingot]

Yep

Maybe go to play sub

[granite oar]

Lazy balancing

[halcyon hamlet]

Sin is still top in Council and Nymue

so theres that

[pseudo hamlet]

I got three already and zero sandglasses since I started doing 18 and higher keys for the Hero path

[orchid flume]

How many children did you sacrifice ?

[arctic socket]

I have offered people over 2m for a Nicholas and they declined it

[orchid flume]

What makes me salty is the way they buffed mage

[pseudo hamlet]

I'd sacrifice for the sandglass, not the dagger >.<

[orchid flume]

I got the sandglass but only 1 dagger

[proven kindle]

Wasn’t counting, but I think I’m close to 20 runs I have never seen a dagger or a sundglass in any of those runs. I saw like five stuffs tho

[spice spire]

Bro?

[proven kindle]

If anyone here thinks he’s a bad player or just a stupid person, let me tell u a story. After I watched the video about checking your logs, I was surprised that I couldn’t find the branch buff on any of the fights I have. so I log into the game and check if my macro is working and everything was okay. after a while of thinking I change my talents to the ST ones. Saw that my death mark was just deathmark and not the deathmark macroed with trinket. I was playing for four weeks without a single use of the trinket.

Any good information I can have for myself is that I actually did some purple logs without using trinket

[quiet oar]

Dont brozone whisp quake

[royal lantern]

AND HE MEANS A WODDEN LOG OFC

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-pecs-steve-rogers-age-of-ultron-ripping-logs-with-bare-hands-gif-11918867

[blazing jewel]

I remember when I was still shit (still am) quake reviewed my log and said something like holy fuck you munched 100 energy with tea

[spice spire]

Literally me splitting him like a coconut

[spice spire]

Nah you hit higher. Circa 100 was normal since opener.

[blazing jewel]

[blazing jewel]

Whisp for sure into this

[spice spire]

I’m going back to sleep

[blazing jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/luna-cat-plinker-plink-gif-1317261633404946088

[spice spire]

Fuck the flu

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-tongue-cat-licking-white-cat-cursed-cat-gif-27575167

[arctic socket]

Quake before you go

[spice spire]

?

[arctic socket]

I have this log I’m needing read into

Would you mind

[quiet oar]

[spice spire]

I sleep

[arctic socket]

Whispyr won’t respond

[spice spire]

If you need help dm me and I’ll do it when I wake

[blazing jewel]

[spice spire]

Whispyr probably sleeping

[arctic socket]

Whispyr is a meanie

[spice spire]

I will not accept whispyr slander in chat

[quiet oar]

Whispyr Was drunkspyr

[spice spire]

Oh

Explains the message

[royal lantern]

can i dm you anyway?

[spice spire]

Sure

[arctic socket]

Send them cursed images

[bleak sun]

its me or i am simming low ? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6uXTfUnATKgXy59EnQ7hyC

[chrome lynx]

what wep runes do we use ?

[arctic socket]

What the robot tells you

[chrome lynx]

robot ? u mean sims ?

[arctic socket]

Yup

Run a sim

What ever stat gives you must dps

Use the rune that gives that

[subtle tundra]

What the fuck

[austere fulcrum]

Check your talents, there is caustic

Also arrange which phial or and runes u use

[limber lion]

Looks right to me

Assa is the lowest simming spec together with mm hunter

Might wanna try simming Wafting instead of Sophic

[slate crown]

That is “damage dealt during kingsbane” (“number of unique targets hit during kingsbane”)

It’s not kingsbane damage

It’s all of your damage done from everything, to any unit, while KB is active.

[hardy pawn]

So the 3% really ended up being 3% too much?

[quiet oar]

Wdym

[quiet oar]

Same for the shadow dance equivalent on sub

Right

[hardy pawn]

If the spec only works now for council and Nimue then it’s not really a meta spec anymore

[cursive frost]

It works for all fights and performs well, sub just outshines it on several fights now

You can literally clear all mythic bosses as assassination

[hardy pawn]

You can clear all mythic bosses as anything if they bring you along that’s kinda doesn’t determine the strength of a spec

[cursive frost]

Sin is still a top spec

The fact another one of our specs is a little better on a number of the fights creates a false narrative the spec is bad

[hardy pawn]

The take away is that it’s for the most part not the top spec within the class anymore. Since there’s no shortage of people linking their sims as three specs and Sin being their lowest

[storm monolith]

Counterpoint: Sin is the coolest

[slate crown]

Correct

[orchid pewter]

If we go after sims everybody would have played outlaw

Sin was simming the lowest the whole patch

[hardy pawn]

Taken and it’s always been my preferred Rogue spec but I’ve played all 3

[cursive frost]

Running both sin and sub isn’t too hard and between the two specs you are a top dps for almost every fight

Except maybe council and larodar

[storm monolith]

But are you top dps in peoples' hearts?

[tawny geyser]

So… I tried Outlaw in 3x 16+ dungeons.
I’m normally doing 26s…

I booked an appointment at the neurologist.

[storm monolith]

I really need to try outlaw. If it's as neurotic as people say it is it might be the spec for me

I love pressing buttons

[flint marsh]

you press too many buttons or the gcd to be able to handle

[near valley]

It's all about being quick

The Master of Faster

The Sultan of Speed

The Rambo of Rapid

[fickle viper]

they dropped like 1min in and my WA for it doesnt trigger then

[carmine shore]

Definitely need to look at Outlaw, assa feelin kinda eh this week

Need a 1h though

[hardy pawn]

The amount of times already a tank has just gone into a boss with a spiteful still running me down is tilting

[near valley]

Welcome to spiteful week

[arctic hare]

Yep

Its also incorporeal!!!!!

[buoyant pilot]

I’ve swapped to sub for my weekly m+ keys because of this. Just black powder and be done with it. Rip the dream 🥲

[errant hawk]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[clever yarrow]

How do you play sin rogue

[ornate dawn]

Carefully

[glacial shuttle]

zug zug

[quartz locust]

lil bleed, zoomy knife, surprise knife, big bleed, double knife, double knife, big poison knife, super bleed, lil poison knife, sneaky dance, biggest poison knife

thats the gist of it

[distant cliff]

LOL

[pseudo hamlet]

Don't tell me that Assa is right now worst M+ rogue spec

[still stirrup]

Ok I won't

[carmine shore]

We felt awesome last week. We do not feel so awesome this week

[quartz locust]

rogue in general feels miserable on spiteful, sub probably feels the effects the least tbh

[storm monolith]

Man that 3% did things to people

I just had an epiphany

If I don't like the way a class feels during specific affixes.... I don't have to play the class

I can just..... play a different one

[carmine shore]

I just want some tyran score so I'm gonna suffer through and probably bring outlaw in 2 week

[hardy pawn]

It’s the nature of the game. Not a lot of people want to play the least performing option of 3

Not like we’re playing Ret or Shadow and that’s the only DPS spec we have

[arctic socket]

Ret paladin is down horrendous

[mystic osprey]

ahh man

subtelty is better

it slaps hard guys

its worth it

[arctic socket]

Sub does preform better

[near valley]

Ret paladin

Big sigh

Good in dungeons

[arctic socket]

Current ret is like the worst it has been in a long time

[near valley]

Sucks with bosses

[arctic socket]

It doesn’t suck

It’s like mediocre

[mystic osprey]

I did 203k as sub on tyr in an 18

[storm monolith]

I made a ret pally, but stopped after I completed my mog

[mystic osprey]

it was at 30 percent health when it did siphon oathstone

[near valley]

Sorry it's burdened by mediocrity

[arctic socket]

I played my ret paladin hit 2400 / aotc then logged

[mystic osprey]

ret paladin is so boring cunt

lmao

[arctic socket]

At least now paladin is Uber Uber tank

[near valley]

My ret only exists to secure a leggo

[arctic socket]

Ret paladin isn’t anywhere near as boring bm hunter or dh

[near valley]

Idk DH u feel kinda good

[mystic osprey]

I dont

because I know im playing an op class

and no one can compete with me because its op

[near valley]

Haven't seen a single of these bastards drop in any of my kills

[mystic osprey]

what in the fuck cunt

[near valley]

Hopefully this week is my turn

[mystic osprey]

thats fucked

[near valley]

[arctic socket]

Next week is my uh

[mystic osprey]

we got one person in our guild with fyralath that fucking brags about it every 5 minutes

[arctic socket]

489 Nicholas week

[near valley]

I can't Financial afford the weapon tbf

[mystic osprey]

I just payed my 255k gold gambling debt

im down 500k gold in gambling

[arctic socket]

Only 500j

[mystic osprey]

yeah

i payed my debt though

[tardy wind]

how many targets does it require for fan of knives to generate more combo points than mutilate?

[near valley]

4?

[tardy wind]

also, in massive aoe, do we fan of knives + envenom spam as much as possible with caustic spatter, or do we just upkeep envenom?

[near valley]

I mean in what setting?

U need caustic up yes

[mystic osprey]

caustic helps cleave envenomy

[near valley]

But ur also spamming envenom with fan yes

U just press mutilate once every 10 secs

[tardy wind]

hm yea

im struggling to keep up in big aoe scnearios, granted im only in like +17 keys so mobs die quite fast to bms and havocs

[quartz locust]

youll never do huge numbers unless theres a mob that survives kingsbane is in the pack

also do your best to figure out how many garrotes and ruptures you need to cast to try and cover the whole pack

[tardy wind]

garrote spam is high priority ofcourse, but is fan of knives + rupture higher prio than gettting caustic+kingsbane going?

or does it depent on target

[quartz locust]

idk if this is just feels, but if theres a valid KB target, I garrote twice, rupture, muti, FoK, rupture, 4+CP tempest, envenom then start KB rotation

but if its just a ton of mobs that are gonna die relatively quick i just garrote, rupture, caustic and tempest everything

[stiff badger]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[wind dune]

Lol by the time you do all that the packs are dead in tyran. Fastest ramp is garrote twice, rupture, mutt and go

Slice in there eventually. And that's even on 24 keys. Packs just die too quick on tyran

[haughty lily]

anyone have a weakaura that says kingsbane will be up in 10 seconds or something?

[quartz locust]

worth learning how to do simple WAs like this yourself tbh

[haughty lily]

yeah i should probably look into that x.x

[quartz locust]

im at work otherwise id be more helpful after that comment

[hexed willow]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[hexed willow]

I personally like Devlin’s but some folks swear by the afenar edit too

[gusty mirage]

yea we love @white lance

:3

[white lance]

❤️

[clever sapphire]

funny of you to say this, when outlaw suffers even more from not getting a restealth

[mystic osprey]

Afenar bis

Sorry Devlin <3

I did try yours though and it was tempting to switch to it

[spice spire]

Just because I use afenar doesn’t mean I don’t love devlin

[haughty lily]

tbh im just mega distracted and need more of a glowy button that says kingsbane will be up in 10:p i like afenar's personally

[spice spire]

LE and notter both have it iirc

[white lance]

i personally just love that there are different styles and options for ppl to choose from. the more the merrier!

[quartz locust]

does afenar post somewhere else now, or are you guys referring tot he edited versions

[spice spire]

The edited

[gusty mirage]

@spice spire forgive me for I have sinned

[spice spire]

?

[gusty mirage]

Assassination is deadge to me bud

[spice spire]

Held hands before marriage?

[hardy pawn]

If volcanic sanguine isn’t a push week we might have to all hang it up

[spice spire]

Even worse

https://tenor.com/view/right-to-jail-jail-parks-and-rec-right-away-fred-armisen-gif-16039907319194806297

[gusty mirage]

and I'm starting to warm up to dust

dust the kinda shit that Cev would sully his pants over

there's so much room to minmax

[amber stream]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[slim iris]

Looking to see the difference between the mythic plus talents. Is dungeon slice a good way of doing that?

[gusty mirage]

Yeppers, dslice is good for that because it gives you a variety of fight styles in one sim. Alternatively you could use DungeonRoute but that sim also takes like 10x longer for no reason

it'll start off with a boss and then a variety of tanky trash and smaller more numerous trash

[slim iris]

Thanks! I like the hybrid talents, but if arterial is a lot more damage I would switch and then there is the question to CT or not to CT

[gusty mirage]

I've seen people run no CT with success, but that's mostly in organized groups where they know that they won't get as much value out of their aoe talents (because demon hunter exists) and lean a little heavier into ST

[earnest remnant]

did T-swift die last night?

[gusty mirage]

no

we did the classic

back to back 4% wipes

then we trolled p2 for the rest of the night

[earnest remnant]

ah

you did a colour

i approve

[gusty mirage]

boss hopefully dies tonight

or I will actually shit my pants

[slow wadi]

surely it dies and then u are free

[earnest remnant]

hopefully we get some solid p3 fyrakk practice today

[gusty mirage]

tonight is our last raid of the year

NO PRESSURE OR ANYTHING

[earnest remnant]

ive got raid in 1 hour

[gusty mirage]

big fyrakk kill for colour

[earnest remnant]

time to blast

doubt

doable

but we need to play out of our minds

[gusty mirage]

if there's anyone who can

its you guys

[earnest remnant]

we have 2 more raids after this before new year

[gusty mirage]

yeah not killing tindral tonight would be tragic for us

[spice surge]

Go get em champ, you can do it

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-cheerleader-male-cheerleading-yay-gif-4076524170709145239

[gusty mirage]

I need to figure out how to fly first bird like 2s faster

so I can have flag up while bird is landing

vs 1s after he lands

[spice surge]

is there an autumn you can yoink

[gusty mirage]

I could ask our hpal

@dull wadi can you give me an autumn in p1

[spice surge]

Since then your flag wont have like 1-2s cooldown everytime you want to use it

[earnest remnant]

what flying?

which one

[gusty mirage]

first set

[earnest remnant]

this is gonna sound like a meme

[gusty mirage]

if I can figure out how to shave 2s off of that flight, I can have flag up ezpz

[earnest remnant]

Treat the Orb like the Apex of a turn and start turning before reaching it

xD

[gusty mirage]

I did that once

and missed the orb completely

[earnest remnant]

and just Spam 1 while flying down

[dark token]

Yeah I never have my flag up for p3 supernova

Kinda annoying

And usually it's like 2-3s later than I want in p2 nova

P3 my flight is quite late as well

[earnest remnant]

well you wont ever have it for p3 shield

unless you just dont use a 2nd time in p2

[spice surge]

Youll have it up for the p3 shield all the time, its 25-30s on it when you land so you can just go blades>symbols>vanish>flag

But then its still like 1-2s too late for the big root blast later, so its kinda cringe either way

[dark token]

Yeah I see some people vanish before p3 shield and use it at the start

Ive been using blades/symbols/dance/cb sectech with ashes then vanish flag right after, mid dance

To get max cdr

I'm in g1 so I don't get that root blast anyway

[spice surge]

You do

[dark token]

I dragonride it

[spice surge]

No

The non-dragonriding one

[smoky leaf]

is sin> sub for tindral and fyrakk after the nerfs or should i just go sub for the last 3 bosses now

[spice surge]

Whichever spec you prefer, theyre good at different things

[smoky leaf]

well im asking for the specific thing of progging last 3 bosses, obviously sub is better on smold

but after the nerfs idk if its just worth fully gearing/statting sub now

[spice surge]

Im answering for the specific thing of progging the last 3 bosses

[smoky leaf]

ah ok

[junior yoke]

Dylln

[tame sand]

hey, what build do you use in keys this week ?

[junior yoke]

They’re actually close, but sub is bit better

I think is the answer u were asking

Obviously if you play better sin, you will be better on sin. But they’re close

[smoky leaf]

but they're only close with sin getting pi right, without pi then sub is the clear choice yeah?

[junior yoke]

Yep

[smoky leaf]

cause then u can just pi someone else

[junior yoke]

Personally, I prefer sin, more stabilized class

But sub deals more dmg if you master it

[blissful forge]

what i did on tindral kill was sending flag on cd and when you arrive at p3 shield do sb>dace vanish after sectech press flag inbetween dance

flag buff was there until i needed to pick first feather

and like this i got pretty decent true boss damage out

but i dunno if you need to solo shield, we were playing 2subs on tindral and me and the rogue already did around 20mil to every shield alone

[royal lantern]

i still dont know how you actually play dust

like, the smoldy version just makes most sense in my head

[gusty mirage]

that's the thing

that's how you play it

you just move around timings

to fit whatever damage amp windows you have

or you do it to get 2 sectechs

[royal lantern]

idc

delete dust

[past forum]

It seems like it presents itself to be more complicated than it actually is, maybe

[dark token]

Yeah our shield dam is fine

I need more dam on roots 3 and 5

[static bobcat]

any chance someone could take a look at some of my logs and let me know what it is i'm doing wrong?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/area-52/nomii

[echo island]

quick look at your gnarloot kill - you missed shiv on your 1 min 14 sec KB window. You fail this again with your deathmark on while the boss is in his increased dmg taken phase. So yeah, you lose a lot of dmg there. Fix your shivs.

You cast it for the first time 6 sec in

[royal lantern]

hit buttons harder

[storm monolith]

Should I turn my brain ack into the registrar and make a beast master?

[echo island]

fix this ;D

Did you macro sd & kb?

[static bobcat]

no i didn't

[echo island]

You should 🙂

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Kingsbane

Use this

Shiv first, then that macro, then garotte, then you do normal rota

and shiv again after 7 sec

[static bobcat]

thank you!

[gusty mirage]

I just hold it for 3rd roots

tbh

[thorn fjord]

I dont wanna prog anymore

uh oh

This might just be my last tier for a while

But i know fomo gonna hit when we get closer to the next expansion

[echo island]

What boss you at?

[thorn fjord]

Smold

[echo island]

Should be a bit easier with the nerfs no?

[thorn fjord]

Its not about ease or being stuck

I'm just kinda over it

[royal lantern]

@gusty mirage we got our first legendary

ofc

its on the holy paladin

[thorn fjord]

Bro @royal lantern we had two drop on Tuesday

Both warriors got it

One of the warriors is benched for prog

Other warrior is our GM

[royal lantern]

is he the benched one?

[thorn fjord]

GM is in on prog

[mellow sparrow]

hi guys

[thorn fjord]

wonder if the other guy will be in now with lego

[mellow sparrow]

i'm playing wow first time and i need some guide about rogue

where i can get one? i'm following wowhead but i doing low dmg

[thorn fjord]

welcome to the danger zone

[thorn fjord]

Wowhead prob best place to start... You can check #assassination-faq as well

Or ask us anything that might be giving you a hard time

icy Veins also an option

[mellow sparrow]

i use the same taletns and rotation but my dmg is so poor

[thorn fjord]

Could be gear

or small nuance in the rotation that you might be missing

Sin is relatively gear dependent

[mellow sparrow]

can i send u on pv?

[royal lantern]

https://www.youtube.com/@whispyr5793

can check whisps yt channel

he explains everything there

[past forum]

His yt channel gave me so much dps, he explains things rly well

[mellow sparrow]

i'm following her rotation on AOE

but in single he change the talents, and i can't change on m+

[past forum]

I think ST rotation stays completely the same regardless of talents

[mellow sparrow]

no, because he use ambush out stealth

on rotatio

[royal lantern]

yes, because you take a aoe build in m+

[mellow sparrow]

https://youtu.be/piJ2sq8yNBQ?si=fVGfvy61q_DwpAOg&t=191

yeah and how i can do more than 80k dmg

?

in single

[royal lantern]

if you really play perfectly

then its gear lol

[mellow sparrow]

i am 469

my friends are laughing me, because they play with 450ilvl and do more dmg

😦

[waxen oyster]

theres other guides like pooling etc

[orchid flume]

You have tier set right ?

It’s uptime then I guess

[fallow canopy]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[mellow sparrow]

yeah

[orchid flume]

I assume it’s M+ where you’re falling behind ?

[mellow sparrow]

bosses

and some aoe pulls

[orchid flume]

Then it’s just some uptime shenanigans

Some bosses you’ll kinda just get fucked by design

Invulnerable etc

[keen spruce]

~ 50%

[past trail]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[quiet oar]

@simple gulch

[quiet oar]

Thats more than i thought

tbh

[keen spruce]

well that's the probability of getting at least one nick

idk probability is weirdge

[blissful forge]

ah ok yeah makes sense, we had our entire p3 cd's + pots assigned so we can make sure every root set dies, and i also delayed tornado for 1 set due to us having 2 subs

[jaunty kayak]

heya, perhaps a stupid question .. but why macro Ashes with KB and not with deathmark? since theyre both 2 mins cd

[waxen oyster]

because ashes decays the stat over time

[jaunty kayak]

ahh gotcha

cheers

[lusty bane]

!build

!builds

wtf

[twilit star]

What’s the best way to tackle your tank chaining pulling packs in M+ and you have no SD or Vanish? Dot up the biggest guy and just caustic pump into them?

[orchid flume]

Shout at him in chat

[jade hedge]

Skip this week

[orchid flume]

This is the way

[twilit star]

Lmao

[keen spruce]

keep like 5 ruptures out

then yeah mostly just keep spatter on a big target and fan/env

[twilit star]

I don’t have tier sets at all yet, will that improve my dps decently?

Wowanalyzer is showing im doing a decent job, but im doing like 90-100k overall a M+ dungeon

[simple vessel]

Hi, I was Sub, switching to Sin now, just learning the ropes. I'm hoping to make a bleed rogue that takes advantage of Sudden Demise, particularly for PVP. Can anyone provide some advice, and also tell me whether my math here is correct?:

sudden demise: 150% bleed needed -> death at 35%
typical PVP target: 900k health
[edited to correct this: = 315k life (35% of 900k) is the target, so would need 150% of that, which is 472k bleed damage]
garrote: 71k
deathmark: 51k, plus while marked, garrote and rupture do double damage
rupture: 140k at max combo points -> 280k with deathmark
garrote reapplication: 71k * 2 = 142k
total: 51k deathmark + deathmarked 280k rupture + 142k garrote
= 470k
note that my gear sucks so the bleed numbers are probably low

[keen spruce]

4set very big

[keen spruce]

#pvp

[simple vessel]

Also want to use this build in PVE, just less specific numbers

so open to any suggestions here as well

[quartz locust]

i mean, its not fun to say, but the top pve specs are pretty much solved depnding on what yorue doing

the AoE build takes advantage of sudden demise

[glad shale]

i see that rogue is top 3 on warcraftlogs on normal mode are they hard to play ?

[simple vessel]

yeah i mean, i'm not looking to have the #1 spec, i just want it to work / to be the best it can be for what it is

[quartz locust]

but its not that crazy integral to it

[simple vessel]

aoe using crimson tempest?

[quartz locust]

yeah

[simple vessel]

i should probably pick that up anyway, given the bleed theme

are you able to link that please?

[dense coyote]

define "hard"

[quartz locust]

BMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEJJJJSAAAAAAASLJSLJAAAAAAQrlkgEIJpkSSEkEJBJJalIBA

@simple vessel

[simple vessel]

thank you, where do i paste that?

[quartz locust]

talents>import

in game

[simple vessel]

oh nevermind I got it, thank you much!

have you tried that spec? is it fun, works well in different environments? i'd like something flexible i can use in raid/pvp/mythic, doesn't have to be #1, just want to be like #5 at least

[quartz locust]

thats what I use in Mythic

single target is an entirely diff build

[simple vessel]

oh perfect, i like the idea/aesthetic of crimson storm. what do you switch for single target/do you have a link for that i could peek at please?

[quartz locust]

i'm of the approach to use the best tool for the situation i'm in, probably the same for most peoplehere

BMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEJJhkEEAAAAAASJJSJJAAAAAAgWSCSgkkSaJREEJJJRSTLSAA

[simple vessel]

yeah, i dont mind switching builds if it's similar, i just don't want to learn like 6 different sets of keybinds macros gear etc.

[quartz locust]

https://tenor.com/view/it-be-like-that-sometimes-like-that-sometimes-snoop-dogg-sometimes-just-like-it-gif-12501830

[simple vessel]

i'm going to start out with the storm, is there anything i need to know in terms of macros you recommend, gear adjustments etc.?

[quartz locust]

theyre not vastly different, but the differences are very distinct

[simple vessel]

rotation also would be super helpful, or if you could point me in the right direction of a guide

[quartz locust]

just know that the core principle, and how you deal damage, is all centered around kingsbane

[simple vessel]

see I was thinking of taking Zoldyk Recipe for the synergy with Demise

how are the bleeds involved with kingsbane?

[quartz locust]

assasination faq on the left has links to the guides

[simple vessel]

i've looked at those, most are 10.2 and i didn't see a sudden demise one

[dense coyote]

I got you fam: https://youtu.be/istKnZaMCHQ?si=7dIwCoNxBiKx5xZO&t=907

Have fun slaughtering people.

[quartz locust]

were in 10.2 still, nothing core has changed with the smaller patches recently

[dense coyote]

One thing I absolutely hate about current Patch is that Rogue is expected to multi-target. No more days of just having a simple 1v1 rotation. You need to bleed and DoT as many people as possible for the energy regen... I hate it.

[quartz locust]

and like i said sudden demise isn't really a huge component of any of our builds rn so 🤷‍♂️

[dense coyote]

Assassination is literally meant to be all about focusing down one target. Yet the spec is now playing like I gotta Garotte every single person I can see...

[simple vessel]

yeah, i don't like that aspect of it either, i want to focus on one target

i hate target-switching

[quartz locust]

you can just single target, use indiscriminate carnage to spread your bleeds and be fine

[dense coyote]

It makes no sense to me. Make Outlaw or Subelty the "AoE" specs. Sin has always meant to be a single 1v1 spec that you basically focus down and hunt your target until they are dead. I absolutely hate what they have done to Sin making it so energy starved unless you have multiple dots on multiple enemies.

[quartz locust]

the rotation stays almost exactly the same ST vs Aoe

[dense coyote]

What if there is no one to spread bleeds to?

[quartz locust]

so single target like you want to lol

[glad shale]

would you guys say the assa rotation for raiding is hard ?

[dense coyote]

I literally cannot mog anyone in World PvP or anything. I used to be able to stalk a guy for 30 minutes but it's now all about playing in 3s and RBGs and I am expected to have like 5 casters around I can just Garotte on... it makes no sense.

[dense coyote]

define "hard"

[simple vessel]

mog?

[quartz locust]

its not the hardest nore the easiest

it exists

[dense coyote]

(mog is like absolutely obliterate/dance all over lol)

[simple vessel]

yeah i want to be able to jump someone solo and win quickly, that's what i'm hoping for with SD

[waxen oyster]

thats how it always was

when not bursting

[simple vessel]

even with Zoldyk Recipe you can't gank someone solo?

[spice spire]

No

[dense coyote]

Wat? Sin ahs never been about this. I don't want to argue but man MfD was literally an 1-win button on a single target. No need to get your bleeds or poisons up on multiple enemies at all. Ever. I mean you could if you wanted to, but not anymore.

[waxen oyster]

no in group scenarios you still wanted to multidot

and 2s

[simple vessel]

i guess what i don't get with this build you linked is: why take the poison stuff -- fatal concoction, amp poison, dashing scoundrel -- instead of taking zoldyk recipe?

[dense coyote]

They basically removed Slice n' Dice in Sin but made us branch out and focus down multiple targets. For Sin style of play it makes no sense. For Sub or especially Outlaw noooo problem I would understand.

[pine dew]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[waxen oyster]

idk 2s if you were playing vs melee healer rotting both down was much better

than tunneling one person all game

[dense coyote]

Rotting in 2s was understandable and no problem. But we've gone way off that. 😦

[waxen oyster]

and rbgs was sub

or you kinda trolling

[dense coyote]

^This lol

and Outalw now is like full ADHD and makes no sense to me lol 😄 so I don't even look at it.

No offence to the Outlaws you guys are great at what you do but it is not for me.

[waxen oyster]

its not a bad spec rn

but uhh sub exists

[balmy condor]

PvP

[waxen oyster]

sin was always better to multidot though

just more resources

obviously if your targets were like 30 yds apart from one another the uptime lost made it not worth

that applies to the game in general though

[dense coyote]

The game is literally so whack now though that Havoc Demon Hunter has a more complicated rotation than Sin...

[waxen oyster]

also ngl why boomkins and locks always stupid

[dense coyote]

XD

[waxen oyster]

being able to multidot with like a 50 yd range

idk whats even hard about havoc

people see you need to use mobility in dps rotation and cry

[glad shale]

ok ty

@vestal wren sorry for ping but would you say that assa rogue have lot of buttons to press on in raid ?

[proven jasper]

[waxen oyster]

its modern wow

no class has alot of buttons

[glad shale]

i been stuck since shadowlands season 1 for main want to try rogue but unsure with rogue spec would be the easyest for me in raid

[vestal wren]

i have no idea

i would say rogue has a lot of keys

assassinaiton has less buttons compared to 10.1.x, so i would say its fine overall

[dense coyote]

Rogue imo is never a good main unless you are super into PvP

[royal lantern]

but why

you dont need keys, just lockpick stuff

[vestal wren]

haha fair

[waxen oyster]

i mean ig rogue has more buttons compared to say

fury warrior

which rn presses like 2 buttons

[royal lantern]

"rn"

[waxen oyster]

hey it used to be 3

[quartz locust]

been a rogue main since wrath, and i hate pvp

[proven jasper]

??

[waxen oyster]

bloodbath rampage

occasional odyn's when its up

[quartz locust]

so don't speak for all of us lol