that ull do healer dmg
#assassination
lime crypt
royal lantern
be the guy that gets carried for once
tall jay
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
thin portal
just to clarify, it is ok to reapply bleeds as long as its below 7 seconds? except for Garotte has to fall off completely?
thin portal
Sanguine is referred to as empowered?
royal lantern
Tbh just go back to outlaw
you know how cringe that "advice" is m, when somebody is askimg for Help for a spec right?
arctic socket
Sanguine is referred to as empowered?
Nah sanguine isn’t
thin portal
outlaw more helpful then you guys 😛
Thanks for those that reply 🙂
ill be testing sin tonight
arctic socket
Whispyr has some really helpful guides in his YouTube channel give those a watch
arctic socket
But in lower keys I would recommend playing outlaw, sin feels so bad 
in keys below 18
Mobs die way to quickly
thin portal
i can see that
since its a dot spec
I want to learn how to move fast with the group as the "dot spec" though.
arctic socket
In lower keys you could use the sudden death build, that’s pretty fun
thin portal
and higher keys do into the m+ build hmm
so far my understanding is the rotation just adds tempest in M+
raid switches aoe talents for dragon blades
arctic socket
I like the arterial build
But if you’re fine with being carried you could always spec raid plus IC and carry single target boss
thin portal
i was thinking about that
as outlaw I always carried hard in aoe and mediocre with single target.
spice spire
But in lower keys I would recommend playing outlaw, sin feels so bad <a:UUH:1116...
Skill issue
spice spire
Maybe for you but I’m different
arctic socket
You parse 40s
slate scarab
I'm doing terrible in raid tonight. It feels like more than a 3% nerf, or I just suck I guess.
spice spire
You parse 40s
I’m parsing 0s big dog. Ain’t played the tier
gaunt moat
3% actual nerf.
30% mental nerf.
arctic socket
I’m parsing 0s big dog. Ain’t played the tier
Mint
spice spire
3% actual nerf.
30% mental nerf.
Real
arctic socket
I'm doing terrible in raid tonight. It feels like more than a 3% nerf, or I jus...
Time to Reroll sub big dog
weary badger
how much mastery should we be aiming for my dudes?
arctic socket
how much mastery should we be aiming for my dudes?
What did robot say
thin portal
Time to Reroll sub big dog
everyone talking about sub in raid lol
weary badger
err how do i sim that
spice spire
how much mastery should we be aiming for my dudes?
Don’t aim for %. Especially if you have branch as that’ll crater your mastery want since it gives a bajillion
arctic socket
everyone talking about sub in raid lol
If you’re in a raid comp that doesn’t have externals 100% definitely play sub
strange python
guilds done piing sin now. look at sin drop: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/35#sample=1
arctic socket
err how do i sim that
Every piece of gear you add to your bags equals a top gear sim
strange python
higher percentile its even lower
short trench
do yall just balance stats by swapping out neck/rings when switching between outlaw/assa? feels weird with my 7k vers lol
arctic socket
do yall just balance stats by swapping out neck/rings when switching between out...
What ever robot tells us to do Lmao
spice spire
oh i mean i wanna know which pieces of gear i should aim in dg
Nick of time Nick of time branch.
Tier pieces.
Embellishments.
That leaves what neck/rings/belt or wrists?
spice spire
Or belt
arctic socket
No
spice spire
Yes? 
weary badger
Nick of time Nick of time branch.
Tier pieces.
Embellishments.
That leaves what ...
yup
arctic socket
#wrist gang
thin portal
all these groups know im testing sin, they are removing me lawl
i should change my icon since sin dont use acro 😦
arctic socket
It isn’t hard to play
arctic socket
Crab / Hourglass / branch would be big m+ drops (trinket)
thin portal
i got a double stat branch from vault so thats why im here.
weary badger
i need 2nd NoT and a hero hourglass
spice spire
Would bang
spice spire
Outlaw 
arctic socket
Outlaw is bis for keys trust
upper spear
so like.... how am i still like top meters most pulls if people are like 5-10% ahead of me on sims?
thin portal
yes i like outlaw for keys
thin portal
I want to learn sin tho for branch lol
arctic socket
so like.... how am i still like top meters most pulls if people are like 5-10% a...
Krill issue
spice spire
Sin fun
arctic socket
Sin biiig for raid
thin portal
oh yeah
spice spire
so like.... how am i still like top meters most pulls if people are like 5-10% a...
Do you get PI
upper spear
Do you get PI
no goes to BM
arctic socket
Imagine getting buffs 
arctic socket
no goes to BM
Your grp is special
spice spire
And I mean this as kind as I possibly can
weary badger
is 2nd NoT much better than dreamcarver on OH?
gusty mirage
so like.... how am i still like top meters most pulls if people are like 5-10% a...
do they have hands?
royal lantern
https://tenor.com/view/tekken-gif-22164360
why is there a gif of us
spice spire
What’s your wr?
gusty mirage
If you look like that dm me lol
?????????????????????????
spice spire
????
royal lantern
im resisting the urges rn to send you uwu stuff
arctic socket
Quake
spice spire
?
arctic socket
Huh
arctic socket
Uwu message got deleted Lmao
gusty mirage
No bitches either man
that's not true, @blazing jewel is always here
spice spire
But on raid nights I gotta share with pleb
spice spire
Who deleted my UWU
Me
arctic socket
Y
spice spire
Literally said oop
arctic socket
Sin channel is down bad
woeful meteor
Onlyfans in name
spice spire
Mf knows because he’s there
arctic socket
Onlyfans in name
<ram
short trench
i cant play outlaw i have 200 ms the fking crackshot keeps screwing up
it feels really laggy even on 10ms somehow
blazing jewel
<@102169801366970368> my beloved
spice spire
https://tenor.com/view/luna-cat-plinker-plink-gif-1317261633404946088
Miss u(s)
Miss the 7am scana delirious messages
blazing jewel
were getting shit on by fyrakk
arctic socket
Log off
gusty mirage
were getting shit on by fyrakk
better than getting shit on by tindral still
thin portal
dps is horrible first boss
gusty mirage
check your privilege man
thin portal
ewww
spice spire
The double-oon
woeful meteor
also honestly cant remember much about re zero
arctic socket
https://tenor.com/view/tekken-gif-22164360
arctic socket
also honestly cant remember much about re zero
That’s honestly sad with it being your profile thingy
woeful meteor
this profile thingy is 4 years old and only gets swapped for christmas
arctic socket
Fair
onyx swallow
any log reviewers https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/tJn1yHzLbgMhGBfD#fight=8&type=damage-done&source=4 (M volc)
blazing jewel
better than getting shit on by tindral still
royal lantern
quake time
blazing jewel
these bosses are pain
arctic socket
any log reviewers <https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/tJn1yHzLbgMhGBfD#fight=8...
@spice spire
thin portal
damnit
onyx swallow
he's in the thread already lol
ember mural
Pretty happy with my new banner
@spice spire bro????
upper spear
so if Assa isnt assafucking bosses anymore, why bring them to raid other than immunity?
royal lantern
you like the spec
upper spear
you think raid leads are just bricked up over spec lore
royal lantern
a somewhat decet one that is not going for top 50? yeha, if the differences are not big you do more harm then good lol
arctic socket
Hey tryan
royal lantern
thats a normal quake moment wdym
arctic socket
It’s funny
spice spire
<@226508540746006528> bro????
spice spire
thats a normal quake moment wdym
That’s true
I’ve never sent a dick pic in my life tho
velvet nacelle
i prefer richard nixon
spice spire
im still trying to resist the urges
?
vast swan
https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-tongue-cat-licking-white-cat-cursed-cat-gif-27575...
I'm so glad Discord decided this needed to be the first message I saw tonight
velvet nacelle
i told a girl i was gonna send her "classy, artistic dick pics" and sent her a sepia toned portrait photo of good ol' richard nixon
arctic socket
Resist brother
velvet nacelle
she was not nearly as amused as me
i'm not sure if she wanted the actual dick pick or was just mad i followed up
velvet nacelle
it wasn't a nude potrait of richard nixon
although...
no wait, i'm not gonna pursue that line of thought
spice spire
Yeah
arctic socket
You just did
velvet nacelle
fuck you're right
arctic socket
You pictured it
spice spire
Mentally I don’t think that’s something I can handle
velvet nacelle
i do agree with you about unsolicited dick pics being passe
velvet nacelle
but as guys, we heard it worked once and we're all out of other ideas i guess
spice spire
velvet nacelle
oh was this week the nerf patch? or is that still upcoming?
arctic socket
^
velvet nacelle
@keen spruce yeah, i agree. i actually like to keep thousands of random dick pics in my phone in case i get hacked, they won't know which one is mine
arctic socket
spice spire
don't put your naked body on the internet
Absolutely
royal lantern
its pugd
clever perch
yea but
spice spire
why is every pug so bad at m+
Happens
royal lantern
what do you expect
velvet nacelle
i love that it takes me literally HOURS to get into any m+
royal lantern
its 3.8k as mage in s2
velvet nacelle
well, any 16+
velvet nacelle
and i go in and get like 50-100k more than second place
royal lantern
that translates into 2.2k for other classes
thin portal
well atleast i beat the tank on first sin key
arctic socket
why is every pug so bad at m+
You’re rocking that avoidable damage meter
clever perch
i love to eat stuff
velvet nacelle
sin keys are kinda rough if the tank isn't pulling big for you
velvet nacelle
i did a 20 fall and we never pulled more than one pack at a time
clever perch
its 3.8k as mage in s2
3k8 as mage in s2
velvet nacelle
i did pretty miserably
clever perch
i expect to be decent at mage in s3
thin portal
lol
clever perch
since there is 1 mage in every top m+
runic hinge
I'm so glad Discord decided this needed to be the first message I saw tonight
You’re welcome
clever perch
a mage + pi
thin portal
I need to get used to using kingsbane in aoe packs
I forget to use it
I just try to get bleeds on everything
clever perch
how
velvet nacelle
@thin portal i'm the opposite, i save it for big aoe pulls
clever perch
kingsbane is ur main cd with deathmark
velvet nacelle
and when the tank is only pulling 2-3 mobs per pull it never gets used
thin portal
i c
clever perch
I just try to get bleeds on everything
you actually dont have to do this
specially in tyranical
velvet nacelle
my dream is when every other pack has one big mob and a shitton of adds, then the packs in between are smaller cd reset pulls
clever perch
and specially in low keys
velvet nacelle
with the 4 piece and splatter talents i don't find spreading dots to be more dps than just focusing one thing down
thin portal
ok so just carnage bleeds and then focus kings in aoe then?
velvet nacelle
except the opening garrote, though that might just be muscle memory
thin portal
k
misty holly
caustic spatter was a mistake. What happened to spread bleed gameplay.
clever perch
the one with most hp or the one with highest prio
velvet nacelle
@thin portal it's tough to adjust to, but it's doable. i still prefer to use it
makes it easier to position without risking cleaves/aoes but after the first week i adjusted
thin portal
i think ill farm Fall just for a second Dagger
velvet nacelle
second, f off
thin portal
kek
velvet nacelle
i've been doing nothing but falls every week and i still don't have a first heh
velvet nacelle
yeah it's basically free, but every rogue and dh in the game queues for them
thin portal
true
clever perch
why dhs
velvet nacelle
and i'm only 479 and 2400 so i don't get in many
i SHOULD up my rating but i'm lazy
thin portal
my rating is 2100 from outlaw tho so I should get invited to lower keys
clever perch
and i'm only 479 and 2400 so i don't get in many
479 is enough for any 20+
velvet nacelle
oh yeah i can get in 13ish keys all day
clever perch
wdym
thin portal
13+ keys yeah
clever perch
my 460 ilvl dh rocks in 24s
velvet nacelle
@clever perch 470 is high enough to DO the key, GETTING IN is a different story
clever perch
wdym +13
clever perch
<@486314155452661762> 470 is high enough to DO the key, GETTING IN is a differen...
he said 479
velvet nacelle
people post 15s with 3k rating requirements, it's hilarious
clever perch
to farm dagger in a 17?
u guys tripping
i was playing outlaw with 480 ilvl till now cuz i had no ring
velvet nacelle
i've been on for a whole poison refresh and i haven't gotten in a key yet tonight
clever perch
was using 447 crit vers
velvet nacelle
though, admittedly, i'm having more fun chatting in here
clever perch
well this is the "in queue" chat
velvet nacelle
think i might take a week or two off for the holidays
clever perch
so we can have a good time while waiting for inv
thin portal
I was outlaw all season until I got branch yesterday.
velvet nacelle
yeah
thin portal
Mydas wont drop for me.
velvet nacelle
hah, i got a branch first day and it's still the only one i've seen:
clever perch
queue to +17s and inv melees that can trade it
velvet nacelle
463 baby!
@clever perch i mean yeah, i do that when i can, but that's not always an option and people are sick of of fall too
clever perch
u can queue right now
thin portal
ok so my first goal tonight as Sin is to make Kingsbane my top dmg skill right
clever perch
to fall
velvet nacelle
i need so many aspect crests at this point too i really should just bump the rating, but every key i do that's not fall feels like a kick in the nuts right now
clever perch
nothing is stopping u
velvet nacelle
@clever perch i actually am doing that while we chat
thin portal
i need so many aspect crests at this point too i really should just bump the rat...
bcuz ur used to doing the easiest dungeon
clever perch
anyways im telling u, 479 is high enough to do 24-25 keys
is what i was using and topping dps
velvet nacelle
yeah but without the 3k rating people don't invite to those
clever perch
well u have to push ur key
thin portal
im 474 so once I get good I can do 20's then?
clever perch
u can do any 20 with 460 ilvl even
velvet nacelle
honestly, a good player doesn't even need to be 470 to push 20s
clever perch
u just have to know what to do in the key
dude to push 20s u dont even need s3 gear
s2 is enough
velvet nacelle
people were doing 20s week 1
velvet nacelle
my advice is learn just above what you're comfortable doing
clever perch
my dh 460 ilvl, top 1 dps in 24-25 keys
u just need to know the mechs and when to pop defs
thin portal
thats cuz dh is OP rn
velvet nacelle
once you get into 20+s things either one shot you or you didn't let it hit you
clever perch
thats cuz dh is OP rn
like rogue wasn't
upper spear
my dh 460 ilvl, top 1 dps in 24-25 keys
Demo aura high skill cap
thin portal
yeah but im learning sin so they will think im bad rn
velvet nacelle
honestly i find sin damage is largely based on the route/pulls
clever perch
idk i dont feel like assa is hard
thin portal
I kinda got it after 1 key
spice spire
It’s not
clever perch
honestly i find sin damage is largely based on the route/pulls
not
thin portal
starting second key now
spice spire
Gl
clever perch
if he has any brain
u have 2 cds, 1 each min and 1 each 2 min
if u're not doing dps is probably 99% ur fault
thin portal
Kingsbane should be my top dmg right
velvet nacelle
@clever perch my experience with pug 18+ is the tanks are either hyper aggressive (good for sin) or hyper conservative (terrible)
clever perch
i can queue with you for fun if u want but
velvet nacelle
you're not wrong, i said earlier that i tend to sit on cds if it's only a 2 or 3 pull
clever perch
i can ensure u, u can't rly blame tank for not doing dps
i mean if he is doing x3 packs with 3 mobs each one, well yea u can
thin portal
I should just go raid spec if I just IC bleed and then kingsbane aoe
clever perch
but its on u when to use ur cds or not
velvet nacelle
the full context, since it was like 20 minutes ago, was i did a fall 20 with a tank who was pulling one pack at a time so i sat on cds too much
clever perch
I should just go raid spec if I just IC bleed and then kingsbane aoe
just learn ur rotation bro
velvet nacelle
and i did say "too much"
clever perch
is not hard
hard part about assa is maintenance on stuff like tea (which isn't really that hard when u get used to)
u just dont use wrong ur tea like using it when a pull is about to die and u're good
most of the rogues i see blaming tank, i see them using their cds when a pull is about to die
they just send all in cd like if they were outlaw
velvet nacelle
@clever perch like i KNOW i would have had higher dps if i just used kb and stuff on cd but the conservative pulling makes me want to "save" them for the big pull that's never coming
clever perch
u have to know when big pulls are gonna come aswell
that's on u
check omnicd
see the cds of the party
u see everyone has cd including tank and he is braindead? pull for him idk
tricks ftw
velvet nacelle
on fall there's only a few pulls that are forced big pulls
clever perch
on fall what build are u running?
velvet nacelle
and even then it's like the dragon pull with one big mob and a bunch of small ones
clever perch
and even then it's like the dragon pull with one big mob and a bunch of small on...
you send cds there without any prob
you have to send cds on big hp adds
velvet nacelle
yeah but everyone ends up saving their cds for that pull and the slimes are dead in like 3 gcds
clever perch
not like u have to wait for big pack if they just die oneshoted
clever perch
yeah but everyone ends up saving their cds for that pull and the slimes are dead...
because you dont have to aoe the slimes
you are not supposed to
are u dotting the slimes? xD
just full prio the dragons bro
that's how assa playstile is
velvet nacelle
no, on those pulls i'm trying to get to kb on the dragon as fast as possible to beat the other dps
clever perch
all u have to know is, you use your cds in mobs that are not going to get oneshot
thin portal
kingsbane almost #1 dmg almost there lol
clever perch
otherwise u are wasting them
velvet nacelle
you're 100% right that it's not fair to fully blame the tank
but if it's almost entirely 2-3 mob pulls (not packs) then it's hard to really go off too
and my alt is a tank, i hate when people pull for me
velvet nacelle
i use omni too btw
velvet nacelle
all 3 dps were pretty close on that fall, don't have a log but i wanna say we were all in the 140s
maybe 130s, it wasn't good
clever perch
that's extremelly low tbh, idk
but since u're telling me the tank is doing 3 mobs each pack
xD
velvet nacelle
yeah but that's what i mean, to your point, "if no one can dps then it might be the tanks fault"
clever perch
if i were u, i would just use tricks and pull for him
but for doing that u need to have a minimum knowledge of the pack
and check if the tank has cds to tank it
that's why the omnicd point
velvet nacelle
i have a hard time doing that, i just write off the key if the tank is pulling too slow... when i tank and someone keeps pulling for me i get incredibly annoyed so i'm not gonna do that to someone else
i'll ask in chat for bigger pulls
but if they don't do it then i just mentaly move on (or leave the key if it's bad enough)
clever perch
if tank is pulling 3 mobs each pack 3 times in a row its a waste of time idk
maybe depends of the ppl/key level
velvet nacelle
i don't disagree at all
everyone was 470-480, there was no reason to pull it that conservatively
clever perch
since im doing 25-26s ppl would just leave if that happen
velvet nacelle
but if the tanks not comfortable then he's not comfortable, just won't use that tank again
velvet nacelle
like i hate when people pull for me WHILE i'm pulling, like i'll pull 2 packs, use all my aoe to get those mobs, then the hunter or something will md another 2 packs to me and i have nothing to pick up the new mobs
i usually finish keys at like 190-210
velvet nacelle
oh, in a fall, we did the whole first room and i think i finished at like 490
i like keys where we pull huge to start and use lust/cds for it
clever perch
dunno what to tell u
velvet nacelle
"get better groups" is the usual advice i get in here
clever perch
it's clearly a problem on u aswell
velvet nacelle
then when i say "i'm lucky to get ANY groups" then the advice turns into "get more groups"
clever perch
that u should want to fix
naive crescent
for an HO build in tyrannical, would I drop a point in vigor for airborne irritant to get blind cd down
clever perch
i can go into the same pack than u and peak 2 million
so u need to fix something by your side
shy grove
any smolderonis confirm: just send cds on pull? or are we holding dm for burn phase
clever perch
despites tank's being braindead
shy grove
cus we just got to myth smold
clever perch
any smolderonis confirm: just send cds on pull? or are we holding dm for burn ph...
on smolderon you just switch to subt
velvet nacelle
@clever perch i should run my own key more, but i've been so laser focused on falls to try to get the dagger that i only really ge tto run my key once or twice a week if i get a lucky reroll
clever perch
otherwise u're trolling
shy grove
on smolderon you just switch to subt
not until dust is removed or changed
clever perch
not until dust is removed or changed
?
you just flagelation in the dps windows/phases
shy grove
makes the spec clunkier than a cybertruck and just as fuckin stupid
velvet nacelle
@clever perch tbf i'm not like a god level rogue, and i do work on my rotation/priorities. i'm constantly writing/tweaking my weak auras to make things easier/smoother but i sincerely believe my biggest problem right now is not farming rating
clever perch
any smolderonis confirm: just send cds on pull? or are we holding dm for burn ph...
you cds on start and in dmg phases
thin portal
not bad single target trash
clever perch
<@486314155452661762> tbf i'm not like a god level rogue, and i do work on my ro...
there is always stuff to improve on eachself
velvet nacelle
i dunno how much you pug but people really do post requirements like 3k rating for 15s
naive crescent
is it ryu posting logs of trash o'clock already
velvet nacelle
people were requiring aotc for heroic pugs in week 1
clever perch
take pugs low keys as a training/practice
and just focus on yourself
try to maximize ur dps and learn the dung
what i do is any key under 24 i just switch to subt
because i know i can improve my subt more than my assa/outlaw
u need to practice and learn from each key
otherwise u're not progressing
velvet nacelle
i absolutely do do that, i'm not sure i was trying to give off the impression that i don't work on my skills
clever perch
assa doesn't require big pulls to do dps, unlike any other classes
that's what im trying to tell u
shy grove
also @clever perch wasnt tryina sound deliberately against your suggestion, i just really dont vibe with sub for some reason
i appreciate the response regardless
shy grove
i think it was whysp who just told his RL hes stayin ass?
clever perch
despite maybe sounding very contrary
no u're not
shy grove
i might just do that, benched is w,e
velvet nacelle
i think an hour and a half of not getting into a key is enough, gonna go play a shootie game
thanks for the chat folks!
spice spire
Gn
clever perch
goodnight ^^
somber sparrow
I wish vault choices only came from mythics you ran. That would help hone in on upgrades
vagrant quarry
Anyone had any issues with kingsbane going on cooldown but not going on the boss?
misty holly
I would run nothing but fall
frozen iris
!dagger
prisma monolithBOT
forest notch
how much worse is sophic for us?
Im at the point where im triple specing now and Sub uses sophic
misty holly
Anyone had any issues with kingsbane going on cooldown but not going on the boss...
Did you macro Kingsbane and Shadowdance?
forest notch
Im trying t ofind out the best way to sim it, I assume if I drop it I should provide haste items to make up for it?
vagrant quarry
Did you macro Kingsbane and Shadowdance?
no i have them on diffent keys
misty holly
no i have them on diffent keys
first of all, that's wild. Why press 2 button when 1 button work.
But otherwise... uh, can Kingsbane be parried?
that's all I can think of.
obsidian parrot
stat priority in raid?
vagrant quarry
first of all, that's wild. Why press 2 button when 1 button work.
dont like macroing something that is class wide
misty holly
Yeah there is a lot of good reasons not to macro it in M+
misty holly
I do and get annoyed sometimes when I wanted my shadowdance for IC
but it goes off on a kingsbane
misty holly
should i cast crimson on bosses
Crimson tempest is only good in 4+ targets
It's actively bad in 1 or 2 targets, dont use it.
envenom is better there
I usually use it in 3 targets, but that might not be good, eh.
I figure if i spend the talent point Im going to use the damn ability.
thin portal
It's actively bad in 1 or 2 targets, dont use it.
ty
balmy condor
3 target succy
thin portal
2nd key as sin, kingbane dmg is now higher in the dmg list. Improvement, almost using it correctly lol.
it wasnt even top 6 dmg spells in first key.
lol
got it to 4th in 2nd key
lets see how 3rd key goes.
weary badger
does sim account for gear that is not upgraded to max?
thin portal
im trying to do what the rotation says. get ur bleeds off> deathmark> ShadowD> Kings > Shiv.
then envenom spam
keep shiv up during kings.
spice spire
does sim account for gear that is not upgraded to max?
Yes?
I’m unsure what the question is sorry
weary badger
eg i have a 470 ring hero ring i want to compare it against a 483 hero ring does sim take the 470 item at 483 or 470
shy grove
@balmy condor can you confirm when you used cds on smold? the 2nd main phase feels clunky
spice spire
eg i have a 470 ring hero ring i want to compare it against a 483 hero ring does...
- You can add a 483 to gesr compare
shy grove
i thought i remembered you talking about that the other day but i am having trouble searchin it
past forum
Anyone had any issues with kingsbane going on cooldown but not going on the boss...
get parried, my friend :/
spice spire
<@167090536602140682> can you confirm when you used cds on smold? the 2nd main p...
His dms on kill were :08, 2:14, 4:27, 6:30.
KB at :10, 1:13, 2:16, 3:16 (sheesh), 4:29, 6:01 on kill.
It might be the 4:30>6:00 kb thing. Unsure tho
eternal nymph
Where is spatter
shy grove
His dms on kill were :08, 2:14, 4:27, 6:30.
KB at :10, 1:13, 2:16, 3:16 (sheesh)...
thank
thin portal
Where is spatter
its not on my list
spice spire
🫡
thin portal
I am spec into it
eternal nymph
Then you don't play it properly
Absolutely no way that spatter doesn't show up there
If you actually apply it
thin portal
I just have to mutilate I thought
but its not casting
oh i see
rupture and deadly poison then mutilate
eternal nymph
You have to mutilate or ambush a target that has your deadl poison and rupture on it
thin portal
got it ill look out for that, nice catch!
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> can you confirm when you used cds on smold? the 2nd main p...
On cooldown
spice spire
On cooldown
So you did make a mistake on the kill
spice spire
Missed the 5m heater 
balmy condor
Yeh 5:30
weary badger
question about improved garrote - do u guys refresh it inside the kb window, and, at end of kb window after vanishing, do you- garrote envenom garrote or garrote rupture garrote
balmy condor
question about improved garrote - do u guys refresh it inside the kb window, and...
As per the guide you always garrote at the start of the kb window in dance, then again with vanish
spice spire
That 2:16>3:16 was hot tho
weary badger
i mean do u do it a second time in the window to refresh
runic hinge
Sometimes I time everything perfectly so I get to rip kb right on cd and I feel like a cd timing god for like .2 seconds then I probably drop evenom or tea early
runic hinge
it ads like 1 second i think
No. An ambush is gonna be more damage than one more second of imp garrote
balmy condor
Yeh ^ that
balmy condor
If garrote did like 3x as much damage as now, like it did in bfa, might want to double up refreshes
But given its power right now
It’s not worth
balmy condor
2nd nick confirmed
Now farm a hero track version 
thin portal
need to learn sin rotation with this version 😛
arctic socket
The two star rune 😳
thin portal
Had Spatter show up on my meter now
not much of it though, shouldnt it be a top damage spell
spice spire
Should be up there yeah
balmy condor
Not really “top”
But like top 5 is pretty reasonable depending on build
16th is way too low
thin portal
im using m+ build
thin portal
lol oh ya
spice spire
Yeah there’s like 5 of those
Only 5?
blazing jewel
where is @balmy condor
your kingsbane dance WA
it plays when someone else uses it 
balmy condor
Yeah this is arterial, one of the more bleed/less caustic centric builds. Should still be seeing caustic do numbers, but not a giga talent
balmy condor
it plays when someone else uses it <a:AINTNOWAY:1050211099158511626>
Ah.
Uh
So
Go into the triggers in all that shit
And check the “own only” box
fallen forge
dont even need to look at logs when your other sin pops cds i love it
thats galaxy brain
fallen forge
i dont have augvoker or pi privileges yet 
static bobcat
anyone able to take a look at my logs and let me know what I'm doing wrong?
runic hinge
I had a purple parse in our nyume kill this week with IC and caustic still on
(I was hungover but I’m also stupid)
thin portal
cant I just use Spatter as my aoe in a raid spec
for m+
to have more boss dmg
hmmm
ill look at raid trees
runic hinge
cant I just use Spatter as my aoe in a raid spec
There’s a cleave build on wowhead that basically does that
runic hinge
You would probably drop dashing for IC
sweet shore
!aug
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue abilities not being reattributed to Augs in logs:
Shadow Eviscerate Poisoned Edges Sudden Demise
sweet shore
How’s everyone feeling after the recent patch. Been out and away but curious as to how assassin has been
thin portal
You would probably drop dashing for IC
great suggestion
that worked, ill test that in my next key
fading adder
How’s everyone feeling after the recent patch. Been out and away but curious as ...
The rework is great. Sin is fun to play
Dive right in and enjoy all the rebuilds
Content is enjoyable and not painfully difficult
sweet shore
I saw the nerfs 3 percent looks pretty small but some people here been saying it feels worse?
fading adder
I mean. Feely craft can be a thing in terms of fun yea? But it’s not that bad, sin cds still line up well with a handful of fights, which is the biggest contributor to its damage. Having externals just exacerbates that
runic hinge
Those people are nuts
People were saying it felt worse last Friday before the nerfs happened
fading adder
^ just play it for your self and make whatever assumptions you want about it
sweet shore
Oh I mean I’ve played it this tier and it feels great I just didn’t understand how people can say it feels awful when it’s just 3 percent
fallen forge
holy fuck pi is like crack
strange python
combined with the 15% kingsbane nerf.. i def feel it
thin portal
I see the cleave build keeps deadly precision, instead of virulent poisons.
sweet shore
Idk it seems more less we’re balanced instead of over tuned
thin portal
wouldnt Virulent help more spatter dmg
strange python
its the pi curse
balmy condor
I saw the nerfs 3 percent looks pretty small but some people here been saying it...
Placebo is a powerful thing
sweet shore
Which is secretly a good thing imo means they’ll touch us less
strange python
without pi they were pretty much already mid
sweet shore
No kidding huh lol
strange python
now without pi its lower 3rd
im just not a fan of pi lol
bad mechanic
make it personal
strange python
no. their logs from the past day are next to destro and ww
chrome lynx
guys how are we simmin ? 5boss 1min ? or do we use Dungeonslice ? what do u guys use ?? for m+
thin locust
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a:LvKxwtfja4F96gTb#fight=8&type=damage-done&source=18
Hi. I don't understand why my damage is so bad in Nymue.
I know messed up my last Deathmark and Kingsbane, but even with that the damage is nowhere near what it should be.
I can't figure it out.
runic hinge
guys how are we simmin ? 5boss 1min ? or do we use Dungeonslice ? what do u guys...
Dslice
chrome lynx
it tells me to do weird stuff like Haste mastery gems and 1 sophic 1 wafting etc ?
sweet shore
I wouldn’t consider that weird lol
storm forum
Yeah our stats are pretty close, so it's pretty common to say that
I'm using 1 and 1 too, and my neck has 3 different kinds of gems on them
chrome lynx
if there that close do i keep my Crit mastery gems and double sophic ? or do i do exactly what the sims say for Dslice ?
runic hinge
How much is it
chrome lynx
im sat about 60% mastery 40%crit 15% haste 10% vers
runic hinge
No I mean how much is the difference in your sim
storm forum
Idk, I'd wait for someone more qualified to tell you if it's "worth" but personally I wouldn't care about the gems, and I'd replace the weapon enchant when I get a new weapon
Also.
runic hinge
I also only ever sim for patchwerk and m+ is kinda whatever. Just use different trinkets if I feel like it
balmy condor
guys how are we simmin ? 5boss 1min ? or do we use Dungeonslice ? what do u guys...
Dungeonslice always, aoe patchwerk is troll as fuck
Oh that was like 10 minutes ago
Hate the discord app
storm forum
We're still talking about his followup questions
balmy condor
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/c...
You’re getting hella mileage from this gif I’m ngl
runic hinge
I gotta favorite it
misty holly
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/c...
Little high on the vers, I might go for some mastery gems there.
storm forum
It's the thing that bothers me the most
runic hinge
It won’t let me do it on mobile
junior yoke
How do I add necklace gem sockets?
forest notch
can someone explain what info this is telling me. I assume dmg for KBs but whats the number on the right in brackets?
and is the order 1st is bottom?
grim jay
Should probably ask the person that made the wa
forest notch
Its one of the main linked rogue ones so figured someone might know
part of LE poack
junior yoke
Tiered medallion
Aight thank u so much
quiet oar
can someone explain what info this is telling me. I assume dmg for KBs but what...
Im pretty Sure These are Ranking
For their fight
Like you had the 6.8, 2.6 and 6.7 in one fight
storm forum
Oh yeah maybe
quiet oar
Like every dmg in the window
storm forum
wait even with damage amps, the most dam I've done is like 9.8 Mil
wiat nvm
im tired we just talked bout that
quiet oar
wait even with damage amps, the most dam I've done is like 9.8 Mil
Its the dmg you so in the kb window
Not only kb
storm forum
yeah
quiet oar
storm forum
im tired
ive been getting bad sleep
and i havent been taking naps
wiat even with damage amps
hdjkgsahjk
runic hinge
Think it’s kingsbane + caustic
near valley
Yeah 14 mill kb even with amp sounds wild
near valley
Idk man, im drunkspyrr tonight
Didn't you start work just a couple hours ago?
near valley
So Whispyr and Loudyr
balmy condor
Didn't you start work just a couple hours ago?
“Couple hoyres” meaning 7? Yea
pale citrus
can someone maybe shed some light into the following sim results
I already have a haste/crit neck and a crit/haste ring so I am hovering at around 50% mastery... why would the sim suggest haste/vers gems when I see so many high ranking rogues gem mastery/crit and are stacking 60%+ mastery? really confused
balmy condor
can someone maybe shed some light into the following sim results
I already have ...
!stats
prisma monolithBOT
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Mast = Crit = Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs like Witherbark's Branch and Wafting Devotion can often de-value the stat in question. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
balmy condor
Read the thingy at the need of it
With the statsdevalue or whatever I said
That’s why you get verfsaktilyer
grim jay
Don’t ask me shit
Was it fluffy or solid?
balmy condor
Was it fluffy or solid?
I had too much cheeseee yesterday soo my poop is a bit flufffy but we will perservere
near valley
balmy condor
I’m a lack toes mfer
grim jay
That’s why you get verfsaktilyer
Google speaks drunkspyr
grim jay
I’m a lack toes mfer
I guess you mean lactose. Lack toes would be kinda sad
midnight atlas
so thats how they make that shredded cheese from supermarkets
grim jay
Ikr
midnight atlas
Now for the love of good people say something so we burry that gif
midnight atlas
just delete it
grim jay
But I cant delete for the sake of consistency
I gotta stay true to my doings
@balmy condor did you atleast see it
And feel it
midnight atlas
i think he put you on ignore
quiet oar
!whispyr
prisma monolithBOT
grim jay
!Whispyr
prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> did you atleast see it
I like to imagine that my vodka redbull is just gasoline
near valley
https://tenor.com/view/foot-callous-cutting-foot-skin-gif-20544932
Feet bread
near valley
I like to imagine that my vodka redbull is just gasoline
That's vodka monster
arctic hare
https://tenor.com/view/latenightwithsethmeyers-nbc-sethmeyers-gas-late-night-set...
This'd be a great water bottle lol
quiet oar
That's vodka monster
You are my vodka Monster
balmy condor
Sometimes at work I see rubbing alcohol and like bleach and like raw liquid form Lysol in unmarked containers
And the voices get loud
Like what if I just end it
Ya know
arctic hare
Your GF would bring your ass back and kill you herself I'd say
near valley
Like what if I just end it
The call of the void is strong
quiet oar
Your GF would bring your ass back and kill you herself I'd say
That sounds like a Latina
So it might be true
near valley
But not stronger than the call of a breakfast burrito
arctic hare
That sounds like a Latina
thats like, any girlfriend, well, mostly redheads lmao
balmy condor
That sounds like a Latina
She is Latina
arctic hare
Yep, you'd better not end it all lmao,
balmy condor
Pls don't remind me of my loneliness thnx
9 year anniversary coming up
arctic hare
bro, marry that girl LMAO
balmy condor
Yeh but we’re 24 and in California
near valley
9 year anniversary coming up
That Lysol is looking mighty tempting for me right about now
balmy condor
What money
quiet oar
She is Latina <:kek:915029250854256641>
Yeah thats why i said it might be true 
balmy condor
near valley
Also grats
arctic hare
What money
Touche hahahaha
oak tangle
why does marriage cost moeny
near valley
Can't u just go to the local court house and something and sign a document
Idk how this shit works
arctic hare
Yeah, right?
near valley
But I've watched tv
quiet oar
Pls don't remind me of my loneliness thnx
And you say that while im here 
near valley
And you say that while im here <a:aPES_CryDrown:644479445637529620>
But not here with me right now 
quiet oar
oak tangle
i'm too busy sitting in my chair for like 12 hours a day to get a gf
near valley
i'm too busy sitting in my chair for like 12 hours a day to get a gf
Just get a gf that also sits in a chair for 12 hours
quiet oar
Idk if you can be happy
near valley
Shadow word: pained
quiet oar
When you are a sin tc
hot fulcrum
i'm too busy sitting in my chair for like 12 hours a day to get a gf
I've found my GF in wow)))
balmy condor
If I’m so happy why do I spend so much fucking money on a therapist hmmmmmm
Could just save the money and kms
near valley
If I’m so happy why do I spend so much fucking money on a therapist hmmmmmm
You like conversation?
balmy condor
quiet oar
If I’m so happy why do I spend so much fucking money on a therapist hmmmmmm
Maybe quake can Do a log Review?
And See what went wrong.
balmy condor
Wish quake would review my log
near valley
I'm sure he can if u ask nicely
near valley
Just send him a pic of your log
oak tangle
doesn't matter if you grey parse in life, you can always strive for that 100, but from a 2% to a 3% is still improvement - be proud yoself
quiet oar
Go for it champ
near valley
He'll be happy to receive
subtle tundra
hmmm there was something i wanted to sim
near valley
doesn't matter if you grey parse in life, you can always strive for that 100, bu...
Damn I forgot to turn on live logging
quiet oar
Quake Will ban me
subtle tundra
need to learn to sim...
quiet oar
At some point
arctic hare
need to learn to sim...
sim what?
balmy condor
He reviewed my foot fungus at one point
balmy condor
Quake a real one
oak sky
Wish quake would review my log
i wish you would review me
near valley
i dont want to say cause whispyr is here and it might make him sad
I think you've been beaten to the punch already by half a tin of whatever alcohol whispyr consumed
balmy condor
I think you've been beaten to the punch already by half a tin of whatever alcoho...
Gasoline
oak tangle
who out here drinking alcohol out of a tin
oak sky
yeah i think i would rather drink rubbing alcohol than bankrupt my entire bloodline by drinking the same amount of gas
balmy condor
Y’all think it’s bad now
My mom said she’s getting me a bottle of fireball for Christmas
arctic hare
duuuuuuuuuude
oak sky
yum
near valley
But Whispyr you loveable scoundrel
arctic hare
heard its not to bad tasting, don't really drink alcohol, not even of age.
near valley
You can't handle ur drink
balmy condor
That’s the shit pitbull be dining about
arctic hare
heard its cinnimony though.
oak sky
yeah its cinnamony
near valley
Very
balmy condor
It’s chimney
oak sky
masks the taste almost completely
subtle tundra
man im so glad i started drinking at a young age so now i dont have drinking problems!
near valley
masks the taste almost completely
The taste of cinnamon
arctic hare
man im so glad i started drinking at a young age so now i dont have drinking pro...
I......
hmm.
balmy condor
man im so glad i started drinking at a young age so now i dont have drinking pro...
You can always start
oak tangle
it's true though
oak sky
i gotta drink more
arctic hare
Rogues should have a healing spec, one with syringes that we just stab people with.
near valley
It takes very close to the Fireball candy
oak sky
when are we getting vodka red bulls whispyr
subtle tundra
oh i did have a problem, it just degraded so fast now im fine
balmy condor
90% of drinkers stop before they see 3 copies of their car keys
Be the 10%
Wrap yourself around a telephone pole
near valley
Nah
oak sky
Wrap yourself around a telephone pole
you know who im kissing on new years?
a telephone pole at 120 mph
arctic hare
lmao
subtle tundra
my friends still call me alcoholic when i barely drink anymore 😦
oak tangle
australia has a drink driving problem, they are trying to solve it by making alcohol so fucking expensive
near valley
Moonshine stonks
subtle tundra
If u haven't blacked out and erased a memory from your life
that was me every time i drank in 2022
quiet oar
90% of drinkers stop before they see 3 copies of their car keys
Its like gambling addicts. 90% of gambling addicts stop before their next big win
subtle tundra
now i just start vomiting really fast from drinking
near valley
that was me every time i drank in 2022
I wanna say same but I can't remember
arctic hare
Tbf, the USA has drinking/driving problems, its just far larger lmao
near valley
arctic hare
holy hell
oak sky
wat
arctic hare
that IS expensive
near valley
120 lmao
near valley
Rather guzzle the gasoline then
arctic hare
ITS 80.87 usa
oak sky
yeah i was gonna say probably like 80
arctic hare
most USA vodka costs like, $10-$25 on average.
near valley
But it's popping bottles at the club expensive
arctic hare
most USA vodka costs like, $10-$25 on average.
This was a google search, it might be wrong lmao
oak tangle
you can get trash vodka, im cherrypicking a bit, but if you want anything decent... yeah
oak sky
ig if you want a nice tasting drink you buy better vodka
but if its only to fuck you up you know
near valley
The destination is what matters
oak tangle
yeah im boomer now (29) long gone are the days of drinking to get fucked up
arctic hare
yeah im boomer now (29) long gone are the days of drinking to get fucked up
damn millenials :p
oak tangle
i am stunned that that can now be a comment
oak sky
11 or 12 is probably borderline
arctic hare
Yeah, probably a Zalpha lmao
oak tangle
though i shouldnt be a millenial
oak sky
i think the upper and lower bounds are usually more dependent on experience
oak tangle
i was born before 2000
oak sky
millenials came of age around 2000 thats the whole thing
arctic hare
Idk where the hell I came up with Zalpha
near valley
arctic hare
but there is also Xillenial.
oak tangle
bro i was 6
oak sky
but there is also Xillenial.
and zillenial
oak tangle
i dont meet either category
arctic hare
and zillenial
trueeeeeee
oak sky
or like grew up around 2000
near valley
Are a different breed than these kids nowadays
arctic hare
Apparently zoomers were born in 1997 till 2012? or somethin?
oak sky
Apparently zoomers were born in 1997 till 2012? or somethin?
its always a rough range
arctic hare
Yeah
oak tangle
i bet you people born post 2000 don't know what playing sports outside are
oak sky
good one bro
arctic hare
its either 1997-2012 or 1999-2010
oak sky
i definitely didnt play soccer and baseball for 9 years
or run cross country in high school
oak tangle
probs grew up with touch phones since grade 1
arctic hare
probs grew up with touch phones since grade 1
nerp, got my first android in like 2015?
cursive owl
arctic hare
mornin