I dont have it macroed because I'm not tight on keybinds
#assassination
rugged sphinx
In single target, if rupture is going to fall off during kingsbane, should i reapply rupture beforehand to avoid applying it during kingsbane?
dark token
Usually
Unless it's gonna fall off during the latter half of window, u can reapply it during the window
pure comet
Should I get CT or poison bomb for m+ ~20
See a lot of variation
Or personal preference
spark rain
!dagger
prisma monolithBOT
formal juniper
Should I get CT or poison bomb for m+ ~20
I would say dependent on your group and whichever you prefer. I find CT to be better below 22 as enemies die too quickly to utilize a full ST build with spatter
pure comet
Alright
formal juniper
Also, with how unreliable sudden demise is in actually applying the lethal damage, CT can force it to execute the target
crimson zephyr
whats the talent called giving aoe blind?
formal juniper
In my experience, sudden demise only sometimes 'checks' if you're above 150%. But applying a new bleed/refreshing will always force it to 'check'
formal juniper
whats the talent called giving aoe blind?
Airborne Irritant
crimson zephyr
and wasnt there some talent for evasion also reducing dmg?
pure comet
I understand, thanks
formal juniper
Elusiveness
crimson zephyr
thanks
and which talent makes it that garrote and rupture affect 3 enemies after stealth?
fading mason
do you guys track blackjack from other rogues for tindral?
arctic socket
and which talent makes it that garrote and rupture affect 3 enemies after stealt...
Ic
arctic socket
Bottom right of the tree above scent of blood
arctic socket
Rings dont exist
I will give you a ring šš
thorn fjord
Funny of you to think i have any aspects to spare
thorn fjord
Already cleared that hurdle this week
crimson zephyr
ah have it ty
crimson zephyr
Does it make sense to take indiscrimnate carnage and airborne irritate for fyrakk? we have a bit of problem with those ads. figure respeccing might help here abit.
do non-lethal poison work for bosses? Does make sense for raiding?
grave dirge
is there anyway to get details to not break down a target dummy session into tons of entries?
arctic socket
Do you have your vanish or shadow dance up during those adds?
spice spire
is there anyway to get details to not break down a target dummy session into ton...
!details
prisma monolithBOT
To stop details from resetting on vanish, go into the settings and under Overall Data, make sure "Use Dynamic Overall Damage" is checked.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1173432355785027584/details_vanish.png
crimson zephyr
Do you have your vanish or shadow dance up during those adds?
I mean I'd have to save it right. hmm
whole mason
has the tier set bug been reported?
spice spire
Which one?
whole mason
2pc reduce auto attack damage
arctic socket
If your tank is moving the adds right, you should be fine with just using splatter
spice spire
I donāt think so 
spice spire
!bugs
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Bug tracker: https://github.com/SimCMinMax/WoW-BugTracker/labels/Rogue
crimson zephyr
I thought about swapping master poisoner with airborne irritate but I lack the knowledge regarding non letahl poison in raids.
crimson zephyr
If your tank is moving the adds right, you should be fine with just using splatt...
isn't splatter just damage? Need to read tooltip again
arctic socket
Splatter makes your poisons deal aoe damage
Are you wanting to silence them with iron wire?
crimson zephyr
Splatter makes your poisons deal aoe damage
yeah, I more thought about helping the raid just kicking them especially at the start i.e. aoe blind etc
but thanks for the input
spice spire
2pc reduce auto attack damage
Knowing you, Iām sure you already have the proof. But do you have it so someone can submit it?
whole mason
this is the log
I'm not sure if I should ping the man
2pc reduce autoattack damage 1% per stack approximately.
tested with 1damage weapon
thorn fjord
hmm
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
spice spire
Iām pinning this for later
(Personal pin)
Because work, but unless Iām an idiot (and I very well may be) Iām seeing the same thing which is 
cursive owl
gn8 everyone , going to bed with stupid feelings about work and rogue -.-
whole mason
Knowing you, Iām sure you already have the proof. But do you have it so someone ...
there are rumors about incorrect natural damage amp about 2pc and KB, I haven't get enough time to test this due to its own complexity.
However, after some rough test, raw KB is fine with 2pc. Maybe the kb stack part, cannot be too sure now and I'm going to test it later.
whole mason
if AA gets us 5.3%, 12% is about .636%. So... not a big deal anyway
spice spire
What is this the doom and gloom hour
slim hamlet
warriors actually got lightning bolts
Maybe the lightning bolt assa meme will be real
arctic socket
Sass me again and I s2g
What you gonna do bark at me 
hallow token
Does the helm enchant move us back toward a flaring cowl/eggnog ring situation? Seems like no?
spice spire
What you gonna do bark at me <:OMEGAKEKW:829051106361344021>
I only bark for the homies
agile gull
what does IC spread from? me or target
spice spire
Does the helm enchant move us back toward a flaring cowl/eggnog ring situation? ...
Itās a sim angle.
Probably not tho
arctic socket
I only bark for the homies
Iām a homie? Darn
formal juniper
Anyone know caustic spatter's range?
raven egret
Anyone know caustic spatter's range?
Always short of hitting the Igira spears cause your group are too brain dead to bring them closer. Jokes aside I dont know exactly but its more or less melee range like 10ish yards, I reckon
formal juniper
Always short of hitting the Igira spears cause your group are too brain dead to ...
this every single time
I think its 10-15yds, its surprisingly large but wanted an actual number
formal juniper
does acro increase any of those effects or just auto attack/melee abilities
spice spire
Just autos
gilded oasis
acro doesn't increase caustic
prime ocean
I'm wanting to take Acrobatic Strikes for m+ as i'm often finding myself a step or two too far away from adds. What here can I chop n change?
kind forge
!up
prisma monolithBOT
spice spire
I'm wanting to take Acrobatic Strikes for m+ as i'm often finding myself a step ...
Iirc itās deeper
And some other shit
gilded oasis
I'm wanting to take Acrobatic Strikes for m+ as i'm often finding myself a step ...
either drop 3 points down tea side or drop deeper and alac
spice spire
Bless up Zar
gilded oasis
put 2 into leathality and acro
spice spire
Thanks for actually playing the game big dog
arctic socket
Identified major problem cba <:ICANT:1030537928235040859>
Is it that bad?
gilded oasis
up to you which you want to drop. I find it better for me to drop deeper side
spice spire
Is it that bad?
Itās fine
gilded oasis
some people here like to drop tea
arctic socket
How long of a list will I have to tell him tonight
spice spire
But two logs show the exact same thing
arctic socket
spice spire
I hate it here
arctic socket
Pretty nice wood
spice spire
@gilded oasis Why are you this way dog
gilded oasis
IDK man
keen spruce
gilded oasis
I'd review logs but only thing I know to look at is KB sequence and uptime and wasted CP and wasted energy and general rotation
arctic socket
Can yāall rate my drawing c:
tranquil dust
is porcelain crab actually good for sin in M+
spice spire
I'd review logs but only thing I know to look at is KB sequence and uptime and w...
Thatās like 40% of it
gilded oasis
Can yāall rate my drawing c:
8/10
spice spire
Thatās more than most people know
spice spire
Can yāall rate my drawing c:
Is that a dragonite
Tbf I do like 80% log reviews and usually catch the major shtick. I aināt gonna lie.
Otherwise I go global for global on them. And cba
gilded oasis
I know what im supposed to do, I just dont do it
spice spire
Ur so real for that
slate crown
Can yāall rate my drawing c:
11/10
spice spire
I just have old man hands
gilded oasis
Just be like me and do ranged mechanics. Look at all my downtime
I took a nap midway through
spice spire
Nice surprised the cats let you
gilded oasis
They were snoozin too
prime ocean
either drop 3 points down tea side or drop deeper and alac
Is it a significant dps loss if I do drop tea or deeper for more atk range?
spice spire
Whatās significant
prime ocean
Good point, guess it's subjective XD
gilded oasis
Uh I think it's a weird.. like yeah technically like percent or two loss? But in reality it's a gain usually since you actually are getting more uptime by not being out of range
I think whispyr has the math somewhere
prime ocean
Okay fab!
raven egret
I dont know, theres no situation where I needed Acro to hit anything this season
gilded oasis
Like in the dawn dungeons I like to take it
spice spire
And youād think it was doomsday
Other times people are like āutility is sick, thanks!ā
gilded oasis
Just play with it yourself and see how it feels. Unless your pushing r1/title it probably doesn't matter
Dh and BM doing all the dam anyways
raven egret
Well we still have more power-related talents in our Class tree than say... Shamans do for example. So we're still s bit railroaded on the last nodes of the tree
gilded oasis
š
ok back to work c u noobie boobies later (im lookin at you @spice spire- also every time I take you I almost tag someone named Quake on Malganis monka)
spice spire
ok back to work c u noobie boobies later (im lookin at you <@226508540746006528>...
Yeah you and everyone else bozo.
When we were both on MG shit was a disaster ya feel
gilded oasis
cause I type quake and not make it quake. thank you for coming to my ted talk
MG stinks I miss ZJ
spice spire
Sux 2 sux
I love mg miss it every day
But current guild owns
Unlike ur stinky guild
gilded oasis
true and real
spice spire
š¦Ø
marble bear
does the hybrid talent options of assasination play the same way as the cleave one?
strange python
Any tips and tricks for Nymue mythic as sin? ^^
dark token
Don't get hit by lines
rapid mirage
This
dark token
Don't send kingsbane right before she goes immune, use it on intermission adds instead
That's about it
A "not in range" WA is also helpful I guess
If you don't already have one
clever perch
What scales better on aoe, vers or crit?
i saw ppl in Tindral getting atleast 3k vers, and 4.5-5k crit
slim hamlet
!atrophic
thorn fjord
He hasnāt been make it quake in ages
spice spire
Iām always Makeitquake
thorn fjord
How do we make it shake
Wonder if I can hit 3k in keys this coming week without getting fired
WE GON FIND OUT
slim hamlet
thorn fjord
Iāve already mentally checked out of this job
Gonna keep treating me like garbage ima run keys
And not get these fucking rings Iāve been aiming for
spice spire
arctic socket
Whispyr simp I messaged you a log
stable storm
what was it you boys suggested we could drop for acrobatic strikes?
slim hamlet
deeper + 2x alac
spice spire
^
mellow copper
!sheet
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
manic quartz
dark token
what was it you boys suggested we could drop for acrobatic strikes?
Sin
Go play sub for acro
Is my suggestion
Nerfed sin with 3% less dam from acro isn't competing very well with sub
thorn fjord
dark token
Legit if I have to take acro or don't get PI it's a sub angle
thorn fjord
We killed Lar so its a sub angle for me now
dark token
thorn fjord
If i really enjoy it i'll prob just keep playing on twsift
dark token
It's actually chill when you play it enough
slim hamlet
Nerfed sin with 3% less dam from acro isn't competing very well with sub
Another sub tier
thorn fjord
I've always enjoyed it
dark token
Acro helps a lot on tswift imo
slim hamlet
The mage treatment?
slim hamlet
Who cares about pirate spec
quaint hull
can you guys please tell me why there are so many fkn stealth problems in tott whats the solution?
slim pebble
The mage treatment?
Mage is the only class in the game that can get away with it
arctic socket
With the new nerf how close is sub / sin
slim pebble
With the new nerf how close is sub / sin
3% closer than it was last week
dark token
can you guys please tell me why there are so many fkn stealth problems in tott w...
I have none?
arctic socket
Super toxic tho lmao
Thatās just rogues
dark token
Are you running with a mw monk or Aug evoker
quaint hull
YES I AJ M
slim pebble
I think sub rogues are closet DHs
arctic socket
3% closer than it was last week
3% under over what
dark token
They have abilities that can knock u out of stealth
If a monk status channels on u prepull
errant swallow
3% closer than it was last week
10/10
dark token
Or if aug evoker legendary buff falls off
quaint hull
FFS
dark token
It's prob the monk tho
quaint hull
They have abilities that can knock u out of stealth
This is fkn stupid
im getting kncoked out of stealth the entire dungeon
stiff pivot
That one dude that posted a monk parse
was it me
dark token
This is fkn stupid
What's ur dungeon comp
Evoker knocking me out is really rare
But monk happens like 1-2x a key
Until I tell em to stop
spice spire
!stealthbreak
prisma monolithBOT
Stealth can break from:
- evoker leggo buff (Unbound Surge) dropping
- Essence trinket on buff gain
- Voice of the Silent Star (Sark cape)
- Misterweaver soothing mist when talented into unison (spec capstone)
- Blossom of Amirdrassil (trinket) initial hot dropping/spreading
- Vicious brand (Signet trinket self damage)
thorn fjord
Oh man so before when i was always getting taken out it for sure was the stupid fucking cloak
thorn fjord
Bastards
arctic socket
idk im a monk main
Probably was then
dawn loom
I'ma a main monk too starting tomorrow?
arctic socket
Are you happy
slim hamlet
Mage is the only class in the game that can get away with it
I would like to introduce to you warlock
woeful wigeon
can we solo soack the charge with evasion on counsil of dreams or isnt that a option on mythic ?
slim pebble
I need to main something where I can consistently get into keys since I donāt have as much time as I used to
So thatās why DH swap
spice spire
but i still hate faeline
Honestly donāt think stomp is that bad
waxen oyster
cant you move during it
spice spire
Yeah iirc
quaint hull
What's ur dungeon comp
We had a WW Monk Fury, VDH, and Shaman, Idk what was doing it. no cloak.
grim jay
stiff pivot
Honestly donāt think stomp is that bad
you havent tried it on a boss that moves a lot then
stiff pivot
fof is fine. it's also a good way to get your energy back while you're channeling
grim jay
https://tenor.com/view/o-gato-galactico-gato-galactico-sou-miau-soquinho-punchin...
thats literally FoF
spice spire
you havent tried it on a boss that moves a lot then
Brother I one tricked assassination and arms warrior in keys
grim jay
dunno how that ugly ass skill made it through
spice spire
All I know is pain
arctic socket
I just remember monks tapping me in pvp
slim pebble
I rerolled monk in s1 shadowlands when rogue was deadge when you could clip FoF and have your clones still do it
stiff pivot
monk is so mobile and we're confined
stiff pivot
on a little area
waxen oyster
I just remember monks tapping me in pvp
what expansion
arctic socket
Last one
grim jay
getting onetapped by monk wasnt that rare tbf
waxen oyster
i played my monk alt in season 2
and killed some really bad rogue through his vanish because hit 2 sck procs
arctic socket
I liked to play arms warrior and just kinda stick on someone like a one of those annoying tourist scammers
ancient rain
me after 30 minutes of prog
stable storm
guys, I see zero cool sometimes play cleave build, sometimes play CT build, anyone know why?
balmy condor
cause he feels like it
why dont you ask him why he plays things
we aren't mindreaders
waxen oyster
i dont get why people try to ask randoms about why a streamer plays something
instead of the streamer themselves
stable storm
why dont you ask him why he plays things
idk his @
gilded oasis
guys I saw my boss taking his break at 10am instead of 10:15 am today anyone know why?
stable storm
guys I saw my boss taking his break at 10am instead of 10:15 am today anyone kno...
taking a shit on company time, normal occurance
stable storm
ill check it out
balmy condor
figure it out man lmao
grave eagle
Is sin good in m+ pugs
dawn loom
yes it was
dark token
i was more impressed they got faeline in DF
This was one of the worst design decisions they ever made
No one fucking played faeline all expac
Or liked it
waxen oyster
i genuinely think the kyrian monk ability
whole mantle
guys, I see zero cool sometimes play cleave build, sometimes play CT build, anyo...
he plays CT build only in thrones and everbloon
waxen oyster
was neat tbh
dark token
Kyrian and necrolord were all monks used all expac and more fun
whole mantle
becouse is very AOE
waxen oyster
venthyr was an mw thing
dark token
Why tf they add faeline
whole mantle
other ones have much more priority targets
stable storm
TLDR CT when needs more AOE cleave when prio st
dark token
you guys think ww will be good?
I don't care if it's good
whole mantle
:v
dark token
I have 0 faith in ww devs to do the right thing
If it ever becomes good it's an accident
It's often forgotten and clunkier every tier
Shame because the core fantasy and rotation is so good
storm monolith
Ww?
storm monolith
Oh windwalker
dark token
bonedust brew was an abomination
It was fine, fun gameplay for a tier imo
waxen oyster
entire necro ww design was disgusting
dark token
I liked both bdb and kyrian
waxen oyster
slot machine just do infinite aoe
dark token
Aoe blast spinning was fun
waxen oyster
spamming sck ignoring mastery
dark token
It was a short window to ignore mastery and you needed proper setup
Kinda challenging to execute quickly in a raid env
storm monolith
slot machine just do infinite aoe
Isn't enhance like that? Just pray for procs and spam one button?
dark token
Chi ji was kinda dumb but the core spin2win was fun imo
waxen oyster
legion variant was more fun
dark token
And sck is a way more fun button to press than most rogue abilities
Visually very satisfying for the dmg
whole mantle
before the single buffs, i died 3 times on the last boss of necrotic wake when he pulls you to 1v1 with the add :v
storm monolith
I dont remember much about ww. Honestly I'd like it if it were heavily auto attack based, with abilities that count as auto attacks
waxen oyster
idk
that add just melted last i recall
bte crackshot is fun now imo even if its heavily rng to get a chain
dark token
I dont remember much about ww. Honestly I'd like it if it were heavily auto atta...
Wtf
You must be the guy they design these autoattack WW tier sets for
storm monolith
I didn't know it was auto attack based now
balmy condor
what a terrible day to have eyes
storm monolith
I want it to be similar to assassin rogue, but instead of dots your abilities count as autos and make you auto even faster. Maybe make the gameplay loop something akin yo your burst windows are "triple your auto attack speed and make them do a shit ton of damage"
thorn fjord
KERMIT NOOOOOOOO
storm monolith
Instead of calling me cringe would someone explain why the idea is not something you enjoy?
balmy condor
I mean where do I begin lmao
thorn fjord
First off you're playing Monk
storm monolith
Getting a haircut I'll be back
balmy condor
auto attacks are just
dark token
I want it to be similar to assassin rogue, but instead of dots your abilities co...
What
balmy condor
not something that should be played around
dark token
That suggestion is not even similar to assa at all
And monks historically don't care about autos at all
balmy condor
swing timers especially on 1 handed classes
unique sorrel
auto attacks imply theyre passive by design
if i wanted a passive game id go play cookie clicker
dark token
One of the weakest autoattk melee
winter glade
With the M+ build in keys if your tank chain pulls and you cant open from stealth to spread bleeds are you best served by FoK and rupturing all targets individually? Blow vanish and open from stealth to easily get the bleeds out but then not have for use with KB?
balmy condor
it's just all passive
dark token
With the M+ build in keys if your tank chain pulls and you cant open from stealt...
Is he chaining 1 mob to next pack
Or like 4 into 4
winter glade
Yes
balmy condor
With the M+ build in keys if your tank chain pulls and you cant open from stealt...
should be using vanish to spread
dark token
If he's chaining 4 into 4 ur chilling
dark token
Sin is good in that scenario
Maintain 5 ruptures with fok + CT if you don't have access to a dance window or vanish
balmy condor
only if you have scent
dark token
If he is chaining 1 mob into 4 tell him he's an idiot
Cause it's bolster week
And if he waits 10s more you will do way more opener dam and silence the next pack to group it
unique nymph
Guys, in ur opinion what is best plater profile for assa rogue?
winter glade
so if vanish is down and i am in that scenario i post up 5 ruptures on targets manually and then CT
balmy condor
you'd want to maintain CT
and spread gar/rup for energy
the bleeds you have on the previous pack will give you energy back
so it won't be terrible
unique sorrel
Guys, in ur opinion what is best plater profile for assa rogue?
i use quazzi's with a buncha mods and tweaks over the years
plater's one of those funny things that you just gotta sit and tweak and test forever till you find one that fits
dark token
I like jundies plater
unique sorrel
there's no "answer"
ebon summit
do I refresh and spread ruptures in aoe during kingsbane, or just garrote then envenom?
storm forum
good morning class-place associates
balmy condor
do I refresh and spread ruptures in aoe during kingsbane, or just garrote then e...
depends how long things are surviving for and if you need the energy from the ruptures and what build you're playing
patent snow
Seconded Jundies, I like it quite a bit.
balmy condor
both are fine, if the pack is living a long time the rupture might be slightly better
envenom is more up front damage obviously
just gotta make a decision
storm forum
how much crit rating would we need to get 70% so we have 100% crit with MA?
old halo
im a fan of rupturing late for the energy and SD proc when pug tanks are chain pulling in mid-range keys
ebon summit
ty Ill try it out some more and try to get a hang of when to do what ^^
dark token
how much crit rating would we need to get 70% so we have 100% crit with MA?
Too much
Not worth it
storm forum
dark token
Idk if that's even possible
balmy condor
with crit flask and double crit weapon runes, and a druid for crit buff
dark token
Isn't druid vers
balmy condor
oh it's definitely not possible lmao
idk
either way
all the crit things
11.5k on gear
gg
cursive marsh
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
dark token
Good tradeoff
balmy condor
I havenāt rechecked since nerfs or whatever but 30% MA was still insanely strong
dark token
Dance is nice
storm monolith
I thought high auto attack speed would be cool 
But you make fair points
Game is way more high octane than it used to be, and with how button spammy everything is, something focused on autos would comparatively be boring
quick pagoda
anyone know if sudden demise accounts for crit rating? i've looked everywhere and cant find anything on it
old halo
i believe it does, ive had some huge SD procs
storm monolith
Oh oh what about this
What if they made it for ww so that if you press buttons in specific orders your get different effects?
quick pagoda
i imagine if it did work it wouldnt be a proc, it would work like augury or brewmaster shields and just increase the threshold by your crit chance
storm monolith
Like 123 gives you bonus damage on 3, 213 gives you a cool down reset on 3, 312 gives you a buff for 20 seconds that increases your auto speed (which will generate more energy from a passive or something), etc
Unrelated note: is there a time when we use the poison that slows?
patent snow
That would be hard to balance imo.
static glacier
with crit flask and double crit weapon runes, and a druid for crit buff
you taking into account prescience 3%?
balmy condor
you taking into account prescience 3%?
No, that would be to 73%
Idk what Iām thinking
storm monolith
Speaking of crit, does each individual poison tic roll for a crit, or are all tics crits if the initial application was a crit?
balmy condor
Each tick
balmy condor
Correct
storm monolith
Awesome to know. Thank you
balmy condor
The only snapshot that exists is nightstalker atm
patent snow
I'm not great at deciphering the spread sheet. Is it saying Putlaw KiR is the superior spec for keys?
Outlaw that is
storm monolith
OutputLaw
balmy condor
If you consider dungeonslice to be 1 to 1 indicative of spec quality, then yeah
Outlaw kir would be the highest simming
storm monolith
Did my first keys yesterday by the way
patent snow
But in practice it doesn't necessarily play out that way?
balmy condor
Thereās way too many variables in a key
storm cloak
How much of a loss is the non dance build?
storm monolith
I gotta say, I don't know AMYTHING about how to play this spec right. But I'm having fun
patent snow
I'm having difficulties keeping AR above 65%, so I was considering trying Assass. Thank you for the help.
Yeah that makes sense.
storm monolith
Being able to garrote and rupture three people at once was game changing
haughty lily
how important is it to pop kingbane during the envenom buff window?
quick pagoda
i guess no one knows?
storm monolith
I mean I was under the impression you always used KB during shiv, SD, and envenom window
haughty lily
depending envenom window expires tho
spice spire
how important is it to pop kingbane during the envenom buff window?
A decent bit. Thatās why pooling recommended etc etc.
celest wolf
Heya ... sophic or wafting for weapon enchants ? Or is there a criteria that should be met when choosing ?
spice spire
Heya ... sophic or wafting for weapon enchants ? Or is there a criteria that sho...
Sim it. Different profiles end up different places. The end will be wafting
balmy condor
i guess no one knows?
no one knows what
spice spire
But for your profile. Test it 
celest wolf
Sim it. Different profiles end up different places. The end will be wafting
Thanks
quick pagoda
if sudden demise accounts for crit
balmy condor
it does not
balmy condor
how important is it to pop kingbane during the envenom buff window?
1.3%
sinful cosmos
Hey guys, I wanna try assa rogue for the first time in 3-4 years - I am currently playing outlaw
What is the easiest and cheapest way to get a second dagger?
balmy condor
world quests or spam dungeons
drifting cloud
craft 447
storm monolith
World quests are goated
drifting cloud
with drakes or whatever there called
haughty lily
ty ty:)
storm monolith
Got a satchel from a world quest and it gave me a 450 dagger
sinful cosmos
Okay thanks š
storm monolith
Are there any glyphs for rogues?
clever niche
Flashbang distract, smoking feet during sprint and using a beer mug to sap I think
storm monolith
Ooooo I like the smoking feet one
clever niche
I miss the water walking glyph
spice spire
Same
clever niche
Made pandaria dalies that little bit quicker
storm monolith
Could be worse. We could be forced to carry materials to craft our poisons
clever niche
Or have charges on poisons, or combo points on one target or miss abilities
storm monolith
Accuracy is the dumbest fucking thing in a game like this
balmy condor
weren't you just talking about making an auto attack windwalker
storm monolith
Yeah
past forum
what if we had a poison bomb pouch
balmy condor
past forum
okay but think of this
storm monolith
I dont like that autos can miss, either
clever niche
Make rupture proc poison bomb again
past forum
we could control when it procs
clever niche
That was awesome
spice spire
storm monolith
What if fan of knives had something akin to a chain effect, similar yo poison bomb proc chances, where when you use it, you have an 8% chance for affected enemies to let out another fan of knives (can't proc off itself)
spice spire
You after your 10 th log Review on the Day?
Me after I wake up bozo
quiet oar
Well
quiet oar
Or more
balmy condor
What if fan of knives had something akin to a chain effect, similar yo poison bo...
we already had that
spice spire
Yeah
storm monolith
we already had that
I want it back 
spice spire
Most of the time theyāre eight tho
somber sparrow
Do we think hero talents are going to cause us to find a few more keybinds š
spice spire
š®
storm monolith
Also idk how I can ever go back to playing a caster
These instant abilities are like Crack dude
somber sparrow
i'm reading it right now too lol. but hearing it from you just makes it feel more real
storm monolith
Is there a problem with that description?
somber sparrow
it's all speculation for us at the moment
storm monolith
Ah
somber sparrow
"fatebound rogues" was mentioned in there
gray raven
and we share a tree with each spec?
gray raven
but i don't like them š
storm monolith
Man what if we had a move that gave us a buff for like 15 seconds where every time we use an ability, it gets used a second time
balmy condor
play something else
somber sparrow
this was their warrior example
gray raven
should be neat - excited to see what it's like
storm monolith
I'm an assassin, I can kill you from 3 miles away WITH THIS EXTREMELY LOUD PISTOL
somber sparrow
I think they'll overall be minimal damage increases. From the article: "Hero Talents are meant to add enough damage or healing throughput to be significant without being so important that these new talents overshadow your current class and spec tree talents."
so we'll still feel like our own class, just with cool visual things, class fantasy stuff
storm monolith
I mean of you're gonna call them hero talents, I want to have some new mechanics to play with
balmy condor
this was their warrior example
storm monolith
Gimme something like, idk, corrosive blood. Make it so bleeds count as poisons. That sounds cool
balmy condor
what would that do
balmy condor
what would that do
storm monolith
Make poison bomb a bleed as well
balmy condor
yes but why
storm monolith
So it could benefit from shiv twice as much
balmy condor
nova kelp
Bring back Antorus Sin
POISON BOMB PROC DON'T MOVE MOBS!
thorn fjord
but it goes brrrrrr
balmy condor
I understand why people on the forums bitch about blizzard not listening to the community
I wouldn't either
spice spire
Real
nova kelp
kek based take
storm monolith
I would love to have explanations for why bad ideas are bad instead of just being told they're bad
thorn fjord
You gotta pay for that
balmy condor
I literally don't have the time to unpack half of it
storm monolith
Fair
balmy condor
you just rawdogged like 6 different ideas
and each are bad in 15 ways
I ain't typing up a cvs receipt here
thorn fjord
What about the cliffnotes
past forum
whatever the hero talents are, i'm sure they'll make stealth more important in dungeons
balmy condor
cliffnotes are mostly just pointless to any gameplay loop, overcomplicated for no reason, insanely hard to balance
like the bleed poison bomb
the answer was "so it could benefit from shiv twice"
storm monolith
See, now that gives me zero reason to put any trust in your credibility on the subject. Granted, you don't owe me anything and you don't have to prove anything to me, but for most people, being told "your idea sucks" without giving an explanation makes them just not care about your stance. I do acknowledge, however, you don't have all day to explain to every jackass with an idea why they're dumb.
balmy condor
lets say that it would, even though it wouldn't
bro shut the fuck up
I'm literally explaining it right now
you wanna hear why you're stupid or not
storm monolith
I was bust typing my English essay when you started that's my bad
past forum
i would like to hear why i'm stupid
balmy condor
even if it did double dip, which is already breaking conventions of things to begin with
it would only be when connected to a capstone, which is fine
thorn fjord
lmaoooooooo
balmy condor
but "make it bleed"
thorn fjord
!whispyr
prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
has WAY more inplications
like if it double dips off shiv
does it double dip mastery?
it should
mastery is bleed and poison
shiv would be bleed and poison
that would be consistent
if it's a bleed, does it give energy from venomous wounds?
nova kelp
look, I just want to be able to be one of these guys
then I'll be happy
balmy condor
would make sense, it ticks like a bleed
but that's obviously not something you can just slap on poison bomb
you'd be getting back hundreds of energy near instantly, every time it procs
past forum
maybe fatestalker has intent to kill as the keystone and the whole tree is shadowstep focused
balmy condor
it doesn't have any change on the gameplay loop
whatsoever
you don't do anything different inherently
storm monolith
Yeah that makes sense
balmy condor
but the outcome is that you just buffed poison bomb to be easily half the spec
for no good reason
could've had the same effect by just buffing its damage or proc rate
spice spire
Legion time?
balmy condor
and you would've gotten there
but even then, lets say that it's balanced somehow
the issue is that because of how strong that would be
you're creating such a delta between having that effect, and not having that effect
that poison bomb would be actually unplayable without the synergy
past forum
turbo juice poison bomb so you feel extra bad when it doesnt proc at good times
nova kelp
Whispyr has been poison bombed, he's enraged
balmy condor
talents have a range of gain that they're allowed to be
arctic hare
well, we were 5 seconds off timing my first 21 of the season...
balmy condor
specifically to prevent stuff from getting out of control
arctic hare
Truly a sad day, but hey, I can technically time 21's now, whoot
balmy condor
that's why things like carnage only spread to 2 additional targets right
like could it spread to "all nearby"
sure
people would love that
spice spire
This is honestly not even mad whispyr
nova kelp
lol
arctic hare
but then we'd have the 45 cd back, which is why it was limited, right?
storm monolith
So the idea is to keep the talent within a specific damage gain range percent wise, while also notably changing ehat you're actually doing in terms of enemy priorities and ability prio
balmy condor
but it's clearly an unrealistic thing
nova kelp
So the idea is to keep the talent within a specific damage gain range percent wi...
generally speaking you'd hope options you pick are meaningful, have an actual impact on gameplay loops and decision processes, hopefully while also creating niches where the choices can all excel. An excess of "does more damage" is just meaningless, since it could be attained in a balance parse anyway
icy acorn
embersoul was 3 sec into kb right?
gray raven
also maybe some cool class fantasy - maybe deathstalker looks cool and is fun
would that be so bad
nova kelp
cool and theme/thematics are flavour, you can fit that onto literally anything, that's a separate discusson to what you'd hope to see in a talents impact
storm monolith
I'm trying to think of something involving shadowstep, but I'm having problems with the fact that I hate tying utility to damage gains, and the fact I think that ability is more tied to sub than anything
I was thinking of a talent like "using shadowstep reduces the cool down of vanish by ten seconds" but that sits kinda raw with me cause I'll be real, vanish is kinda like a dps cooldown because of all the stealth benefits you get.
shy heron
the first step was a thing in torghast
storm monolith
Oh oh. What about "using vanish increases evasion of nearby allies by 50%?"
balmy condor
So the idea is to keep the talent within a specific damage gain range percent wi...
the idea is that if you're making something impactful, be it rotationally or damage wise, it has to come with a design space that makes that choice apparent to the player.
Kingsbane is very strong, but it's a cooldown and new button to press and something you change how you play around. Holding shiv charges, maintaining envenom, combining with deathmark or dragon tempered blades for more poison applications, tea for mastery, dance for snapshotting off nightstalker, master assassin for the crit, you have to track the time and plan your entire rotation around it. But that's why it's allowed to be like a 12-14% talent. You could do the same thing with for example improved poisons. Instead of a 5% increased chance, you could just say "all hits apply poisons". That would be the dumb version, because poison application doesn't really impact your decision making at all. Neither does something like venom rush, although it impacts your energy/resource economy, it's not something you have to make a decision on, so it's not allowed to be strong. Caustic is really strong, but there's steps involved to it. You can only have one, so you're picking a target, it has to have rupture on it, you have to mutilate/ambush in a situation you normally wouldn't be doing that, then you have to maintain that debuff and track the timer on it, you have to continue to hit that target through the duration in order to get damage from caustic. There's choices and decisions involved, which allows caustic to be strong.
Something like "your fan of knives has a chance for more fan of knives" would then fall back under the not impactful part. Maybe those tiny fan of knives could give combo points too, but.... not really though right? They'd then have to interact with seal fate and you would be basically full capping your combo points instantly when it procs, that's kinda weird, overcapping a billion cp all the time. So it can't interact with seal fate, but maybe it can generate the original 1 cp fok does. Depending on the chance for it to happen, maybe yeh. Could work. It could apply more poisons, that's fine. But does any of this actually impact you as the player? Not really. Generating more combo points and applying more poisons is generally a pretty passive thing, similar to the venom rush example. Seal fate giving cp on crit here is something to react to, but when your combo points are already random and reactionary based on crit, adding more rng on it doesn't do anything to change the feel of it. And that's why the thing we had, Echoing blades, was such a nightmare. By design, it wasn't allowed to be strong. It's just mini fan of knives. But assassination was so bad in mythic+ at the time that they said fuck it and made it just insanely strong. During that patch, we used finishers to refresh EP, not because they were worth using, and then we just kept spamming fan of knives, no rhyme or reason to it, no care for the combo points, just spam it because echoing blades was so crazy strong. And a lot of people look back at the patch and go "oh that was fun though, I enjoyed that patch, corruptions and running around with 75% crit passively or 90% haste yeah great stuff", but it was also the patch that brought a ton of specs to the breaking point gameplay wise. We were using crimson tempest in single target, spamming fan of knives with no regard for combo points, single target had so much energy it wasn't a resource you had to track anymore. Other specs and classes had that issue too, it just ripped at the seams because there was stuff that was far out of its intended budget and overwhelmed the gameplay loop on the specs, and blizzard has generally tried to be careful about it ever since (minus a couple mis-steps), and that's why we're getting kingsbane nerfs and stuff
hope that helps
shy heron
ilysm whispyr
gaunt moat
any tl;dr
storm monolith
Ok that puts a lot into perspective
nova kelp
Does this count as Whispyr getting "one guyed"?
thorn fjord
Does this count as Whispyr getting "one guyed"?
He got tricksād
subtle tundra
storm monolith
Had a thought for a new ogcd that gives you max combo points on a 1 minute cooldown, but that feels like it's just button bloat and only makes your ramp faster by like 1 or 2 gcds, so that's out
balmy condor
thats called marked for death
shy heron
oh boy wait til you see mfd
balmy condor
we just had that removed in 10.2
it reset its cooldown on kill as well
the pvp guys were VERY upset
storm monolith
Shhhhhhhit I'm behind the curve lol
past forum
pvp kekw
thorn fjord
Then why bother imagining shit lol
gaunt moat
@keen spruce why no streaming. i want to see a new color.
keen spruce
storm monolith
Then why bother imagining shit lol
Gotta try. Also I have fun doing that
Theory crafting is a much enjoyed hobby of mine
thorn fjord
But if your base level knowledge of the class is poor youāre gonna be cooking up some hot dooodoo
past forum
what if instead of deathmark u had a spell that made u deal more damage to the enemy and generated energy when u press it
keen spruce
<@119274470241206273> why no streaming. i want to see a new color.
i think my rats are done for the week
hopefully
storm monolith
But if your base level knowledge of the class is poor youāre gonna be cooking up...
Yes and that's why I'm shamelessly pitching these probably hot garbage ideas to get feedback from people who know what they're talking about so I can gain insight to the decision making process for ability development
gaunt moat
i think my rats are done for the week
I wish i could play with you guys š„²
well technically i could
storm monolith
Whispyr, for instance, has been a huge help in that department
nova kelp
it's still fair to imagine shit, you don't HAVE to have a solid set of knowledge to be allowed to do it, just enough knowledge that you lack it to be humble about the imaginings
thorn fjord
Iām just here to press buttons
storm monolith
Ok hear me out
What about a 2 minute cool down that makes it so for 10 seconds, your finishers don't expend combo points?
balmy condor
Yes and that's why I'm shamelessly pitching these probably hot garbage ideas to ...
kinda the wrong order of operations though isn't it? You'd want to learn the spec and the design space first, and then come up with things, not come up with things and then get told it already exists or it doesn't make sense
thorn fjord
My thoughts exactly
storm monolith
Ya know what that's fair. Kind of pointless to come up with ideas that already exist that are a 5 second Google search away
woven ruin
Right after a major rework I can't see these hero talents really being anything more than cosmetic
nova kelp
it's a 50 year old game at this point in internet years, a lot of "standard ideas' have been explored to some degree
balmy condor
but kinda shadowlands covenant soulbinds impactful
storm monolith
I hated that shit so much
thorn fjord
Bring back obedience kthxbye
storm monolith
Covenant abilities made me wanna gag
thorn fjord
Er and flag were both solid abilities
balmy condor
whats wrong with covenant abilities
nova kelp
slands talents should have been unlockables on a slands tree... I wanted furry form dash but also the ability to flagellate myself
thorn fjord
Still are
nova kelp
the enemy*
storm monolith
I wouldn't mind them of the actual covenants weren't such a slog to get all the nodes you needed
thorn fjord
All you had to do was play the game
storm monolith
Swapping to a new cov to be told "sorry bozo gotta build up rep again" was so demoralozing
thorn fjord
They fixed that too
nova kelp
it made NARRATIVE sense though, because it's PRIMARILY an RPG - Ion said so
thorn fjord
Door of shadows we miss you
gray raven
there's big damage in the hero talents
Youāve seen them?
storm monolith
Door of shadows we miss you
Reaper cosplayers
nova kelp
Hello Maw Walker, while we are aware that you're the only person who's ever existed with the ability to save reality, we're annoyed that you fraternised with those filthy Kyrians for the weekend pvp you do. You need to earn your place with us again oh god of realms
balmy condor
Youāve seen them?
yeah?
not the rogue ones
but the deep dive had the druid ones at blizzcon
and they released 3 more trees
nova kelp
man.... when deathstalker gets unveiled this chat will be crazy
royal lantern
and they released 3 more trees
well duh, the keeper one is around tree's
storm monolith
Crazy good, crazy bad, stay tuned to find out
nova kelp
there's some cool shit in the chronowarden one
feral mason
more defensive talents for aug
2x hover, 2x scales, renewing blaze, rescue, cheat death, verdant embrace
nova kelp
man I just wana be a poison wind globadier dammit
storm monolith
Keep the green mage alive
feral mason
black attunement if you want to count that too
gray raven
but the deep dive had the druid ones at blizzcon
Oh duh, totally missed that news today. Gotcha
feral mason
i dont mind this outside of it being like priest feather
nova kelp
deep breath
and sigh
feral mason
that shit is uh
thorn fjord
Yay more externals
nova kelp
fucking externals
feral mason
awkward in raid
balmy condor
it's flat holy damage it'll reattribute dont worry
nova kelp
there's also a randomly generated external in the chronowarden tree
balmy condor
so people can't game it more than others
nova kelp
that echo's damage
storm monolith
.....that's gonna take up space on my screen with a giant icon, isn't it
feral mason
seems like a placeholder
balmy condor
don't see why it would
feral mason
that first talent is literally just fate mirror
the one after is a buff for it
idk
formal juniper
Reviving an earlier topic but I would love to play a version of sin that's balanced around a poison bomb-esque passive that would regen like 2 points of energy per hit. A burst of energy like that would feel really good on a resource starved spec. Sounds like a tier set bonus level buff.
That being said, I do agree it would be unnecessarily strong if it did that as the spec functions currently.
storm monolith
Resource starved?
feral mason
royal lantern
meanwhile the evoker one
middle
just so broken
i cant even make stupid remarks about it
nova kelp
which middle? the echo'd dmaage?
nova kelp
oh right yeah hey don't think about it too hard
nova kelp
once upon a time we had the ability to reduce peoples cd's with gunboi spec
see if it goes live
lol
formal juniper
Resource starved?
Are you able to maintain 100% uptime on envenom buff with your build? I sure can't. If pooling energy is such a massive dps gain then the spec is resource starved to an extent
coarse pine
Is there a list of abilities for m+ that feint works on? I tried searchign for it, but might just be blind.
balmy condor
Are you able to maintain 100% uptime on envenom buff with your build? I sure can...
thats the gameplay though
feral mason
Is there a list of abilities for m+ that feint works on? I tried searchign for i...
if there isnt a list its pretty intuitive
stable storm
guys does kingsbane dot work with sudden demise?
balmy condor
like it's designed to encourage pooling
storm monolith
Is waiting a couple seconds considered resource starved?
feral mason
if something is player targeted feint doesnt work
royal lantern
balmy condor
stable storm
im reading because im not sure
balmy condor
the remaining Bleed damage
storm monolith
"Read this it explains the rules"
"No"
royal lantern
allright, yeha, blizz tooltips are dogshit
but it says bleed dmg and kb is a poison
storm monolith
is kingsbane a bleed
It COULD BEEEEEEEEEE
stable storm
does kingsbane count exclusively as a poison?
okay what about bleeds enhanced by DM?
feral mason
sly phoenix
you guys create more stress for yourself by not answering the question right away lol
stable storm
okay nice nice
formal juniper
thats the gameplay though
Oh I don't dislike pooling or the way the spec plays, but I think we could get a more intuitive energy burst than sitting down in the middle of a raid encounter to have 6 or 7 cups o tea
royal lantern
you guys create more stress for yourself by not answering the question right awa...
i sometimes want people to read and understand stuff 
balmy condor
you guys create more stress for yourself by not answering the question right awa...
my goal is to bully people into being scared to ask dumb fucking questions but it's not working out today
sly phoenix
lol fair enough
royal lantern
stable storm
my goal is to bully people into being scared to ask dumb fucking questions but i...
is water wet?
rigid arrow
how do kingsbane do big damage?
nova kelp
What's better? Pancakes or waffles?
storm monolith
I will purposefully ask a dumb fucking question so I can be told why it's dumb
royal lantern
What's better? Pancakes or waffles?
both
gaunt moat
@royal lanternwhy are you ingoring my DMs and mentions š¢
nova kelp
Pretty sure the tooltip on the question said OR
royal lantern
<@346293680883236864>why are you ingoring my DMs and mentions š¢
huh?
feral mason
<@346293680883236864>why are you ingoring my DMs and mentions š¢
dont blame him honestly
lyric solar
!wa
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
storm monolith
Waffles are better
royal lantern
honestly, highly possible it gets lost in how shity the discord mobile update is
and i legit dont saw it
stable storm
Jonathan Blue, 14 years of assassination rogue experience, said to the new player:
bro why the fuck are you asking stupid questions š š”
balmy condor
I didn't think I would have to say kingsbane is not a bleed when I woke up this morning
stable storm
ITS A BLLED BRO
balmy condor
according to what
stable storm
THE VOICES IN MY HEAD MF
balmy condor
and your dumb ass goes "bleed surely"
stable storm
whispyr today I got one of those void crates crates for the fkin maps that kill your character permanently
its like 1.2d, my friend told me just open it
got a 2c map out of it
formal juniper
But not that kind of lethal poison, the other kind of lethal poison
balmy condor
got a 2c map out of it
deserved
stable storm
bro š
feral mason
regardless its BLEED damage as well
storm monolith
Ok new idea. What about a poison effect that says "when an enemy dies affected by this poison, it spreads to up to 5 nearby enemies dealing X flat damage and lasts for the remaining duration?"
feral mason
kingsbane literally says NATURE damage
icy girder
anyone got a augry they have run in mythic plus?
balmy condor
Ok new idea. What about a poison effect that says "when an enemy dies affected b...
aint that just caustic but on death
gaunt moat
and i legit dont saw it
was about new DD 2 DLC
glad frigate
hey all, new to ass rogue, are there points of no energy where you just legit auto attack lol i'm coming from outlaw and it's a bit of a change
stable storm
btw whispyr since you're here i gotta pose a question i did a few days back but it was pretty late and it wasnt clear
icy acorn
new idea. a poison that instantly kills anything its applied to? even your weapons
royal lantern
Ok new idea. What about a poison effect that says "when an enemy dies affected b...
i mean, its kinda pointless cus poisons are sprrad by pressing fok once
royal lantern
was about new DD 2 DLC
oh
is it good?
stable storm
POISON damage is NATURE damge which is MAGIC damage right?
do does the demon hunter buff enhance our poison dmg?
storm monolith
aint that just caustic but on death
Ya know what your earlier point still stands. I need to read all the goddamn abilities before I open my mouth
balmy condor
POISON damage is NATURE damge which is MAGIC damage right?
do does the demon hun...
correct
formal juniper
hey all, new to ass rogue, are there points of no energy where you just legit au...
Pooling energy is the solution to that problem
stable storm
Ty ily man
royal lantern
POISON damage is NATURE damge which is MAGIC damage right?
do does the demon hun...
yes
dh buff is big
stable storm
right?
nova kelp
hey all, new to ass rogue, are there points of no energy where you just legit au...
you will ABSOLUTELY have small periods of auto attacking that by comparison to outlaw will feel like an entire season
feral mason
Poison isnt an actual damage type afaik
stable storm
its actually huge dmg from kingsbane
feral mason
just nature
gaunt moat
oh
is it good?
it's 2 new characters, and that's about it. but i don't wanna spam this channel about DD2
stable storm
well i mean poison = nature
royal lantern
Poison isnt an actual damage type afaik
poison just means "nature dmg over time from rogue" for players tbh
balmy condor
and magic damage does as well
storm monolith
Is bleed its own damage type or does it fall into the "poison is nature" type category?
balmy condor
so armor only affects our generators and melees
feral mason
own damage type
storm monolith
Physical?
royal lantern
Is bleed its own damage type or does it fall into the "poison is nature" type ca...
nah, bleed isnjust physical
balmy condor
it falls under physical damage
glad frigate
you will ABSOLUTELY have small periods of auto attacking that by comparison to o...
okay just making sure i'm playing okay, i didnt have any thistle tea charges and was like what do now
storm monolith
Thank you
balmy condor
but it's physical that doesn't get reduced by armor
unlike for example mutilate
which is also physical
but gets reduced
the type of damage is physical, but it's a dot versus a hit
storm monolith
I mean thematically that makes sense. Their insides are becoming their outsides, doesn't matter how thick your armor is that is gonna hurt
balmy condor
hits are reduced, dots aren't
nova kelp
okay just making sure i'm playing okay, i didnt have any thistle tea charges and...
you generally want to bank a charge of a bunch of things for your KB windows like tea. I'd highly suggest checking out Whispyrs vids on YT
he explains the pooling periods too
formal juniper
okay just making sure i'm playing okay, i didnt have any thistle tea charges and...
Assassination plays as fast as outlaw inside of our cds, but then almost afk between cds
storm monolith
I keep forgetting whispyr is actually not dumb and makes guides
balmy condor
I forget that too
storm monolith
Look he's at the top of the server list over there
stable storm
assassination super fun to learn
nova kelp
I'm not even sure that it plays as fast as ol in cd windows tbh
balmy condor
except when a patch drops
and all of a sudden I have to do like 12 hour days
to update all the things everywhere
stable storm
I'm not even sure that it plays as fast as ol in cd windows tbh
its slower but u gotta get ur stuff right
storm monolith
Lol
balmy condor
then I remember
nova kelp
OL is a full on zoomer spec
formal juniper
I don't take enough adderall to play outlaw
balmy condor
I don't take enough adderall to play outlaw
that's a fixable issue
storm monolith
I love to spam buttons
glad frigate
gotcha, will do thanks
nova kelp
the OL guys love ideas
balmy condor
storm monolith
What does Adderall have to do with it? I take it for my adhd and it helps keep me mellow
balmy condor
the joke is you need to have adhd to keep up with outlaw gameplay
formal juniper
It is still an amphetamine
storm monolith
That fast huh?
balmy condor
fastest spec in the game
distant cliff
Are we really supposed to be using Wafting Devotion on both hands?
leaden sundial
Is there any way to check if shadowmelding will remove aggro in dungeon or not ?
balmy condor
Are we really supposed to be using Wafting Devotion on both hands?
if it sims higher, sure
storm monolith
Is there any way to check if shadowmelding will remove aggro in dungeon or not ?
It does
balmy condor
until it doesn't
nova kelp
OL has this way of making you go from like ULTRA low when you fuck a section of your rotation, you feel like you should uninstall, but 6 seconds later you're a god again
balmy condor
storm monolith
Example: razan and his asshole charge move
balmy condor
meld is a buggy mess
distant cliff
if it sims higher, sure
... you know, i've been playing Aug so long, i basically forgot about sims..
balmy condor
just gotta pray to god that it works
nova kelp
smeld?
runic hinge
I love when it works, and when it doesn't I'm like huh, whyd it break that time, oh well
balmy condor
... you know, i've been playing Aug so long, i basically forgot about sims..
most people atm are 1 sophic 1 wafting I think
storm monolith
Having multiple night elves in atal dazar is wild. Everyone just says "nah" to that mechanic
nova kelp
don't smeld a rezan charge on yourself. smeld when he chases someone else
it still cuts his charge
balmy condor
but should see double wafting get more common in a couple weeks with ilvl capping out on people and crests not being a concern anymore
storm monolith
If I switch to outlaw do I need to go buy a gun?
storm monolith
C-can i?
balmy condor
no
nova kelp
lol the jokes you could have made there whispyr
I'm not sure if I'm disappointed or not
balmy condor
I mean you can buy a gun I guess