assassination

[lean kite]

Ideal is you link it with Deathmark but on a fight I can't see shit I've been pairing it with KB so it's at least there for most of it. If I stand still the orbs come to me but it's definitely not getting the ideal length of time.

[grim jay]

Might aswell use a good wa so you can pick them up blind

[lean kite]

Now there's a smart idea. I outta do that

[grim jay]

And if you just let the orbs come to you you might aswell use ashes

[lean kite]

I guess ashes is at least up for every single KB, not just the DM/Vanish combo ones

But the sims have the branch WAY higher

[grim jay]

Yeah because the sims use the branch like you are supposed to

[lean kite]

Yeah. 1/1/7 on Deathmark so it's there for the entire KB and fully juiced for the final hits

[runic hinge]

Ashes is also 2 mins

[lean kite]

Man what was I thinking of. Isn't there a 1 minute one in there or was I sniffing glue again?

[arctic tusk]

can you feint blistering heat https://www.wowhead.com/spell=420950/blistering-heat

[livid mesa]

I'm trying to improve and looking at logs my kb is doing half the damage of another rogue. I know i can clean up the little things to improve but I need some help improving. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/ckM3fYr6w4GTFpJn/dDpKHAmw86M4zbPg#fight=9,77&source=4,Rowge&type=damage-done

Sandglass better than pips?

[runic hinge]

Practice the opener for 30 minutes straight

15 times in a row when dm comes off cd

That’ll help

[lean kite]

Yeah, get that whole sequence to muscle memory and hitting tea/vanish at the right times.

Also the rogue you comp'd with is getting windfury and you weren't. Doesn't explain QUITE that big of a gap, but it'll definitely help a lot

[livid mesa]

is it just the little things? most of my logs have low kb

[stark kraken]

Why you don't use potion

[livid mesa]

i think i ran out

i normally have pots

i'll practice rotation more tyty just wanted to double check i'm not missing something big

[fleet atlas]

@livid mesa u started from stealth right? Cause somehow u mutilated after the first garrote

[grave nova]

How much of your dps roughly is sanguine in keys?

[livid mesa]

yeah i think i got knock out of stealth or something. in replay it shows as in stealth

[grave nova]

I just realized sanguine was a thing and ive been playing bosses energy starved

[livid mesa]

either way i know to start in stealth

[runic hinge]

You don’t play around sanguine once you have 4 piece

[grim jay]

You dont play around it either way

[grave nova]

Even on st?

[lean kite]

Yup. When you get four piece it's a bigger DPS game to play the envenom chain game

[ornate jetty]

Yes, you play around chaining envenoms for your 4pc tier set bonus

[grim jay]

Especially on ST

[grim jay]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[fleet atlas]

I don't think ur first garrote was improved either.

[livid mesa]

it is

[sand vector]

Can you double garrote in opener to increase time on empowered garrote?

[regal kiln]

it is useless cuz u're refreshing it 3 times already in opener

[cursive owl]

[runic hinge]

You will be pressing garrote again in like 6 seconds or something like that so yeah. No need

[balmy condor]

[cursive owl]

[sand vector]

Is signet brand trinket better then sandglass trinket even if sandglass sims slightly higher?

[near valley]

Well if the fight is 5 mins + I can safely say yes

[quiet oar]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif?width=337&height=600

[blazing jewel]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif?width=337&height=600

[bronze pike]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif?width=337&height=600

[wet dagger]

Mythic pips in my vault, high value or low?

[tawny geyser]

Quick question..do we play Spatter on Council Heroic?

[plain moon]

It’s pretty high value. It’s contested a lot in raid. One the best things you could see imo

[normal mist]

Yes

[gusty oak]

question.. high vers more garrote dmg right?

[balmy condor]

high vers more everything damage by definition of the stat

[gusty oak]

ahhh.. thanks!

[balmy condor]

you're welcome I guess

[gusty oak]

thats simple answer.. so yeah thanks

[balmy condor]

yeah, I was just expecting a follow up or something

usually people aren't happy with that

[blazing jewel]

did you sleep yet

[balmy condor]

what

it's only 2

why would I have slept

[blazing jewel]

oh right youre other coast

I am back to sin next raid

[icy acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/gamer-cant-sleep-focused-sleep-is-for-the-weak-gif-11368894

[forest notch]

to be fair I assume half the people that play wow are EU lol

[normal mist]

(same)

[gusty oak]

@balmy condor question again.. should i should use branch or ashes of the embersoul? my branch still champ but my ashes are hero

[jade abyss]

When your tank say in your premade group for m+ i preffer outlaw instead sin for +20 keys im in the wrong group 🤔

[balmy condor]

part preference part sim

some people play ashes even though its worse just for the convenience of not having to pick up orbs

branch at equal ilvl when played correctly is always better than ashes

[gusty oak]

thanks!

[lucid rain]

sin only gets stronger the higher the keys get

if you're only doing +20 then sin is going to suck as people get more powered up because trash explodes before you get to do much

[mystic osprey]

yo how do I check if I got PI in logs

[rustic hornet]

sophic or wafting

or just sim it?

[forest notch]

send your log

[grim jay]

Just click on buffs and look for PI

Click on PI and see who had it

[mystic osprey]

private log

cringe

[royal lantern]

the pain of early prog

[mystic osprey]

yep

[royal lantern]

our warlock got 3x 100in week2

private logs

[forest notch]

lol what bosses?

who are they private for?

unless your on like Fyrakk or Tindral

oh was meant for @mystic osprey

[steel ridge]

are private logs included in the statistics of all parses?

[royal lantern]

first 3

tbh week1-2 parses are giant meme, its just luck with gear

[iron halo]

would it be viable to play sin with combat stats?

[royal lantern]

people do private logs too prevent poaching

[forest notch]

lol people are like pugging those

I get like last 3

but first 3 lol

[rustic hornet]

guys

it says wafting devotion for 1 target but sophic for 5T

[royal lantern]

you grab wafting cus fuck m+

[grim jay]

Mine just says wafting for both

And im nowhere near low haste

[strange python]

Is it even possible to rech 99+ logs even on hc if logs are compared to the pre nerf assa version?

[steel ridge]

ofc

[blazing jewel]

[steel ridge]

i mean, you lost 4,4% sim dps but your gear likely improved alot

[blazing jewel]

And usually shorter kill timers are better for logs

So everyone else getting more gear makes it easier

[steel ridge]

pre nerf vs. post nerf, close but still 😄

oh wait, Dec 6 was nerfed already

thought it was 7th 😮

[fickle viper]

!feint

Whats the command for the feint spreadsheet?

[lucid rain]

I don't think there is one

[steel ridge]

the book of shadows has been discontinued

just feint it and see if it works 😄

[storm cloak]

What was the nerf?

[steel ridge]

nothing new, was about the old nerfs

[storm cloak]

Ohh copy

[fickle viper]

chrome history clicking open 10 sheets has saved me

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y20r1n4o9XkvNeuhVZ0JHUZ8WjjT8-LrK5RnY-3-jhY/edit#gid=0

[steel ridge]

avoidance = feint?

[fickle viper]

I assume so, I was linked this by a rogue enjoyer when asking about feint before

maybe a smarter lad can confirm

[storm cloak]

I was wondering if it was this week. Did a random pug heroic clear and a rogue was doing like 285 k on the fire snake

[steel ridge]

augmentation?

[royal lantern]

killtimer?

[balmy condor]

Generally avoidance = feint

[royal lantern]

like

why do people look at random dmg numbers

[balmy condor]

But there are weird outliers

[storm cloak]

It was very short. I was just surprised. Much more damage than every one else

[royal lantern]

if it looks like aoe, feint and hope it works

[steel ridge]

hc volcoross can easily be done sub 2 minutes i reckon

but that would be rather bad for assassination, you would want like a 2:30 killtimer or something

[storm cloak]

Do the CDs work well for smolderon timing?

[steel ridge]

no

[storm cloak]

Lame

[steel ridge]

but you can still play assassination on smolderon and just dont give a fuck

[balmy condor]

I was top dps on my kill

:3

[storm cloak]

I have been playing frost mage on it so far

Been very good

[balmy condor]

Well that’s not true, I got beat by warriors

But they also gamed hard

[steel ridge]

i am thinking about doing just that and play it on sunday 😮

sub gets me all worked up

[blazing jewel]

Did you do autumn tech

[balmy condor]

We don’t even have 2 paladins

[blazing jewel]

Where ret aura

[balmy condor]

Also if I did autumn tech

And I got beat by warriors

I would’ve rioted

[fickle viper]

how much did u do as assa

[steel ridge]

1:30 dm sounds juicy, but you would hold kingsbane then?

[balmy condor]

Yeah of course

You wanna just slam a deathmark with no kb into the intermissions?

That’s the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard

[steel ridge]

i´ve done dumber things

[blazing jewel]

[steel ridge]

maybe i can bribe our holypal

[storm cloak]

I still need to bribe my raid lead to put me into the wind fury group

[steel ridge]

you either have like 4 sub rogues, or your RL is a bozo

[cursive owl]

tonightis christmas party from my workplace, i just found out that the boss is paying for everyone

so in the night i am able to do keys again uwu

[steel ridge]

isnt that like normal, that your boss pays the christmas party?^^

[cursive owl]

this is the first company who did it

i were on 6 others where u need to pay it yourself

germany is strange i gues

[steel ridge]

i am german

never heard of any company that does that 😄

[cursive owl]

segmüller did

[steel ridge]

and i work in taxes and see all the christmas party invoices of my clients

[cursive owl]

also the one printing centre did it , i needed to pay sht myself

[steel ridge]

then its probably a non official party just for your sub department? larger companies do that

[cursive owl]

nah it was official

[steel ridge]

jesus, what a broke ass company

[cursive owl]

[steel ridge]

ngl if i had to pay myself i wouldnt show up

[cursive owl]

i worked there 3 years so

i did come bec of ppl are nice

else i wouldnt

[lyric grail]

It’s your decision to go there anyway it’s never a must

[cursive owl]

yes

but im hungry already

so

unlucky to not see timestrike dagger with 98 keys ?

[lapis lantern]

hey, can someone explain "Sanguine Blades" to me in another way than the tool tip? im not native speaking and i dont reall get it

[cursive owl]

over 50% of energy u get extra dmg

[quiet oar]

@keen spruce calculate it pls

[lapis lantern]

when applied over 50%? or even the running bleeds=

[cursive owl]

so u pool outside of kb window to get it as useful as possible

[cursive owl]

i dunno

[thorn schooner]

so like i have a question when your burst window is over, you have to pooll energy right? so you dont press abilities sometimes and just sit there meleeing?

[cursive owl]

uh kinda

[dark token]

When over 50% energy your existing bleeds will do more damage

[cursive owl]

with kr u just spamm your rota

[dark token]

But also drain more energy

[cursive owl]

once ure low enery reg u try to stay above 50% until next kb window to dump everything in it again

[mystic osprey]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[cursive owl]

yes

[lapis lantern]

ty!

[lapis lantern]

got it 🙂 thanks

[thorn schooner]

ok so if i understand, since i have 4 set, i shouldnt care much about sanguine blades, mostly have to care about proccing 4set right?

[mystic osprey]

yes

[steel ridge]

4 set does big dam, yes

[thorn schooner]

yeah kinda new to assa so a lot to digest, been practicing kingsbane but noticed i run out of energy fast after cd's on ST, ig wasnt pooling enough

[steel ridge]

with dm running you should have unlimited energy

without dm, you might want to have a tea charge ready to jumpstart your energy

[cursive owl]

i recommend tracking kb window so dmg and usage is right

[arctic socket]

If you stack enough haste and PIs

Anything is possible

[steel ridge]

no just from dm alone

[arctic socket]

You must don’t get the haste meme going around

[thorn schooner]

what is DM ? dont wanna sound like a noob but im not sure what it is

[steel ridge]

deathmark

[arctic socket]

Death mark

[steel ridge]

your big dam cd

[thorn schooner]

yeah I got WA to help me a bit, thanks for the tip !

Ahh deathmark i see

yeah Im fine in deathmark, its after the cd's running out

[arctic socket]

Dm = death mark kb= Kingsbane sd= shadow dance

[thorn schooner]

thanks for the clarification !

[arctic socket]

If you’re running out of energy a good bit you might be sending your envenoms a little to quick

[thorn schooner]

yeah i think thats what i was doing, was just sending envenoms fast when i hit 5+ cp

[peak sun]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[arctic socket]

It’s quiet here

[peak sun]

is branch > deathmark macro worth?

or should i delay trinket for a little?

just dropped it

[royal lantern]

nah, macro

everyone does that

[onyx crane]

what are best reliable trinkets for rogue, ppl calling the everbloom one unreliable cuz no one can effectivley kite the balls

[royal lantern]

i mean, you can

[arctic socket]

[royal lantern]

the only fight you should probs not use branch is mythic tindral

[arctic socket]

Branch is 100% our strongest trinket atm

[onyx crane]

I have, branch, signet, pips and hourglass

[peak sun]

Branch and hourglass i guess

[arctic socket]

Sim the combinations

[peak sun]

How much haste are you guys running?

[arctic socket]

There is really no haste amount to go too

Just what ever robot tells you

[fallen forge]

as much as my robot tells me to

[onyx crane]

my robot always tells me to add more crit

[fallen forge]

i can’t think for myself

[cursive owl]

wwll

[true swift]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[peak sun]

ive got 6% i feel its a bit low

[cursive owl]

my robot tells me to add more mastery

[arctic socket]

If you have that little bit hourglass will sim high

[peak sun]

and are we managing to stay aobove 50% energy/

[onyx crane]

hourglass is pretty strong ST

[cursive owl]

imagine having 51% crit kekw

[peak sun]

or just take benefit of 4pc?

[arctic socket]

Benefit of 4p

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[arctic socket]

^

[spice surge]

Tindral is literally standing still afk for most of your branch uses though

[royal lantern]

i will not chase orbs during the opener man

lol

[onyx crane]

idk I am playing assa so poorly it is emberassing

[arctic socket]

Tindral is a pips / hourglass combo fight

[royal lantern]

with EVERYTHING Happening

[strong sleet]

when do i use ashes? with deathmark or in kb?

[royal lantern]

i just use my shity champion ashes macrod with kingsbane and thats it

[royal lantern]

kb

[arctic socket]

Kb ye

[royal lantern]

if you wanna macro

[onyx crane]

i got mythic hourglas

reast of my trinks hc

but I cannot pars more than grey on tindral cuz I suck

[arctic socket]

Where’s your branch

[royal lantern]

the "optimal" usage is a couple seconds into kb, but thats VERY minor over just doing a ashes+kb macro

[arctic socket]

I like doing Tindral

Heh splatter go big

[strong sleet]

oh i wasnt even aware i could macro it to kb ty! just looking for something beside branch cuz i always mess the mini game up when boss mechanics get hectic

[onyx crane]

i realize my shiv uptime is lacking

need to manage that better I guess

[arctic socket]

You should only be using shiv during kb

[onyx crane]

yeah but sometimes I forget

[arctic socket]

And you also want to be using vanish in kb (last 3 seconds)

And thistle tea

[onyx crane]

I need a KB timer

[arctic socket]

Yeah

You’re missing out

On a lot

[onyx crane]

cuz most of my retail comparisons to other assa

my kb is doing less dmg

[arctic socket]

Well if you’re not pressing shiv that’s a big damage lost

[onyx crane]

my recount/details

=retail

[arctic socket]

And if you’re doing that your most likely not using thistle tea

Properly

Do you press vanish

[onyx crane]

I do but probably not on the right timing XD

i did only 173k dps on tindral hc

but that was a wipe does not count

[arctic socket]

[onyx crane]

smolderon was 186k not a whole lot better :C

[arctic socket]

Do you get externals

Windfury / ebon might / or pi

[onyx crane]

i don't get pi no

[arctic socket]

You get the other buffs?

Lucky mofo

[onyx crane]

i think we had enh shammy

[arctic socket]

can I join your group and take your buffs? My raid comp doesn’t have buffs

[onyx crane]

also and augment

who 'stole' my locks trinekt on nm...

or was that he healer dragon...

[elfin matrix]

guys those icy veins talent builds are up to date?

[onyx crane]

I put my kingsbane timer to my WA bars

I have the most boring WA for my abilities

[arctic socket]

I donated to that one twitch streamer and got access to weakauras for every class

Couldn’t tell you the name

But has cool weakauras

[wise sparrow]

With whispyrs edit of afenar's WA, should i tea/vanish when it says 6/3s left? or should i wait until 5/2? not sure if 6 is 6s exactly or 6.59

kinda hard to see in the logs too

[spice spire]

6/3

[wise sparrow]

aight, thanks

[spice spire]

[onyx crane]

I personally cannot stand the weakauras that use the wow version of timers

like the quare with the clock

I cannot see how much 2nds

why did I shorten seconds to 2nds...

als the head enchant is about as strong as an embelishment?

[normal mist]

Around 2% of my total dmg yesterday when I did an HC reclear

[earnest remnant]

@marble hemlock this u?

[onyx crane]

yeh

that's my timers wa

well not mine the one I use atleast

why?

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-stealing-gif-19084597

[rotund oak]

why

u have

a second acc

[onyx crane]

no I am confused

[earnest remnant]

its fine, just looks alot like Seli's ui

so we made a haha

[spice spire]

Ur confusing the masses stealthi

[earnest remnant]

i have that effect on people

or so ive heard

[spice spire]

I know you confuse me daily

[earnest remnant]

[spice spire]

Because ur so good at rogue

[earnest remnant]

had an interesting msg in my stream last night

[spice spire]

[earnest remnant]

that i need to stop being so good at sub, cuz somebody's RL keeps sending my logs when he messes up (i dont have public logs)

so that was an interesting one

[rotund oak]

@limber lion does this remind u of something? 😄

[earnest remnant]

so i need to find out who snitchin my logs

esp since they arent good xD

[spice spire]

It’s me

[rotund oak]

could be me but idk how

[spice spire]

[rotund oak]

[royal lantern]

your good twin

[left sundial]

Are we kiting last trink orb to vanish timing right?

[quick veldt]

Hey guys I’m really struggling here 😫 In M+, unless the pull is perfect tailored to me (as in I get stealth, all my bleeds up and mobs don’t die too quickly) I’m better off just spamming fan of knives x2 and crimson tempest. Do you ever just do that? The keys where this is happening are typically <16 keys and I play with a DH who regularly does 400k dps without even trying…. Meanwhile I’m at 150k dps and don’t even get time to ramp up. Any advice?

[limber lion]

You do not spam FoK > CT ever. In fact CT you only apply once and that's it

Just maintain Spatter on a big target and spam envenoms on them instead

[stiff pivot]

I mean if packs are being deleted I don't think there's much you can do

Except spatter yeah

[limber lion]

Those days are behind me

[stiff pivot]

Play outlaw ezpz

[left sundial]

Assa works on adds higher keys otherwise cancer

when you dm one target it gets one shot lower keys

[night halo]

hello! is there any rule of thumb I can use for when using thistle tea? Am I supposed to ever use it outside of damage windows? Am I supposed to ALWAYS use it on the last seconds for kingsbane? I find myself getting energy starved quite often

[devout remnant]

is a 23 higher? i'm strulling to decide playing the cleaver build or the arterial schock

[quick veldt]

Got it. Okay I will try to focus on prio targets and spattering. Thank you guys!

[shrewd crescent]

Question, when doing the aoe rotation, do we need to tab target garrote based on number of targets or garrote applies itself to nearby enemies when done on one target?

[subtle tundra]

im struggling more on fyrakk than on tindral with branch

its actually quite chill on tindral

and way less rng on pull to get your orbs

[dawn condor]

it applies itself, but at higher mobcount you can garrote more mobs by switching the mobs you are applying Garrote to

[craggy dune]

hi guys, yesterday night we killed mythic volcoros. Can someone helps to analyzed my logs? I ended with 184k and I don't understand what are the problems regarding my dps

[shrewd crescent]

I see, which talent allows it to spread?

[left sundial]

ehh yep

[void pendant]

Indescriminate Carnage, bottom right of tree next to dragon tempered

[shrewd crescent]

ah thanks

[void pendant]

👍

[shrewd crescent]

one more question is caustic spatter a priority in single target? it doesnt seem to be mentioned in ST priority in wowhead only prio for Aoe scenarios

[slim hamlet]

It does a grand total of 0 dmg in st

[rustic hornet]

how much dps % increase is nick of time anyway

[slim hamlet]

Around 1% for same ilvl

[grim arrow]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/3pg9mrKaJ4cR87Vv#fight=20&type=damage-done&source=20
Could someone tell me where/how i fucked up? :/

[slim hamlet]

Can when I am at the pc

[plush tusk]

without checking anything else: kill timing is super bad for sin 😄

[grim arrow]

But even when using the compare thingy on wcl and looking at similiar logs they do ~30k more than me and i have no clue as to why

[limber lion]

Real quick points:
Use Ambush during Dance/Vanish
If boss is at 40% hp and you know you won't get another set of cds, don't use your cds and instead wait for it to drop to 35% first befoer popping cds to take advantage of Zoldyck.

[pale wave]

Felt pretty good

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/pR7fN32kGdYVbCyM#fight=14&type=damage-done

[plush tusk]

you're using your trinket too early

[slim hamlet]

how to make logs not german

[plush tusk]

dont macro it

[slim hamlet]

wait

[grim arrow]

ye after 3sec is ideal i think, but with nerf someone here said its minor loss when just using with Kingsbane

[slim hamlet]

might not be german

[plush tusk]

it is german

top right translate button

[slim hamlet]

Yea I got scammed by "blutige klingen" which sounded norwegian/swedish

[woeful meteor]

wasn't mut during kingsbane a minor gain?

[slim hamlet]

a big 100dps but it's rng

[plush tusk]

i guess he got pi from shadow on cd. and i guess the priest did't want to hold his pi 😄

[rugged grail]

do u play with gouge in m+ ?

[grim arrow]

ye i didnt even know i got pi lol
usually never get pi

But trinket with kingsbane, and ambush instead of mutilate shouldnt be huge difference? So no major fuckups and just bad luck with Kingsbane crits or why the "low" log? :/

[storm forum]

I think we usually recommend AoE blind over gouge atm

[rugged grail]

yeah

[woeful meteor]

shadow should hold Pi there aswell tho 😄

[limber lion]

Last I simmed it it wasn't. But maybe that was when we still played VV

[storm forum]

You could play gouge if there's a specific mob you want an extra stop for and you don't think you need an AoE stop.

But it sounds pretty niche and I wouldn't recommend it

[earnest remnant]

mut during KB is only during DM specific windows if my memory serves me right

[limber lion]

Was a gain during execute only at some point

[earnest remnant]

and the difference is fuck all

[limber lion]

legit doesn't matter

[storm forum]

And it's only like a 0.1% increase for it

[earnest remnant]

think it was actually lower than that

[storm forum]

I'm rounding up ok

It's 0.06%

But that's a whole extra digit

And I have sig fig ptsd

[spice spire]

Wild

[slate crown]

Honestly after testing

mut vs ambush even

just is a minor difference

[grim arrow]

so... bad rng? Why my dps shit? :[

[limber lion]

...

sure.

[slate crown]

Like, I swapped to exclusively using mutilate button because I experience the stupid bar swap delay, so now I just use mutilate and never have delay anymore, sacrificing a trivial amount of damage

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/modern-problems-solutions-dave-chapelle-gif-13450651

[slate crown]

Could be, maybe. Kingsbane critting is a pretty big swing, though I'd expect that to average out

[slim hamlet]

Man I just read the conversation with the Doomblade shoe size guy from last night to make sure it wasn't a fever dream

Sadly it wasn't

[thorn fjord]

what did i miss

[slim hamlet]

oh boy

[craggy dune]

Can you guys check my logs? I can’t understand what’s the problem. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LKGgM7Z9jtFRvxPQ#fight=27&type=damage-done&source=4

[night delta]

Kingbsane is 5-6 casts a fight, so 10-12 last ticks under MA. Law of low numbers means you can very well get shitcanned because of bad luck on KB last ticks

[craggy dune]

Ok no pi and long fight but I fell like i’m missing something

[night delta]

if it happens consitently yeah that's not bad luck however

[slate crown]

Oh I mean average out over the course of many fights

[slim hamlet]

this is good kill timer for us even if u had no PI

[slate crown]

within a single fight it's low enough numbers to not average out for sure

[night delta]

yeah in between tries on the pull KB I get sometimes swings of about 80k dps for the burst window

when i get the "no crits fuck you" roll

[craggy dune]

So any idea about what I’m doing wrong? Thx in advance

[slim hamlet]

I am looking

U are dropping envenom durting KB

specially on the execute KB u dropped a long time

Green is KB cast, yellow is envneom uptime

Or well "long", but u know

That is 1.

[craggy dune]

Ok, so i’ll try to fix that, maybe i’m reaching the KB time with too low energy! Thx. Other things to improve?

[slim hamlet]

U are missing some subterfuge MA ticks on KB by doing it a bit too late

Here u are doing it with a bit less than 2 second left on KB for example

Actually never mind

I forgot during the gcd where u are actually in vanish it doesn't count as subterfuge

[storm forum]

KB check, what's the biggest KB people have gotten? I got 9.8 mil with Amp (gnarlroot) and 4.5 mil no amp (nymue).

[spice spire]

DN

[slim hamlet]

how do u see that

[storm forum]

Notter's WA

[somber sparrow]

notter's weakaura

[slim hamlet]

oh

no way in logs?

[somber sparrow]

jinx you owe me a soda

[spice spire]

I mean yeah

[storm forum]

Probably could in logs

[spice spire]

You can add up all the ticks

And see

But

[slim hamlet]

math

lol

[spice spire]

L bozo

[craggy dune]

Yeah but thx anyway!

[slim hamlet]

Some times u are missing tea for last tick of KB, might be a pre pooling issue?

on 2nd and last KB of the fight

[cursive marsh]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[craggy dune]

Mmm probably, which is the best moment? Just before the first envenom or when?

[slim hamlet]

and 3 ticks in the fight wirthout shiv

[slim hamlet]

U wanna use tea under 6 sec left on KB but before 4 sec

Most just use at like 5.x

[craggy dune]

Kk, I remember that just to chain envenom I used a tea charge so maybe i fucked up on the next kB

[slate crown]

You can easily look at logs

and just highlight the zoom over your kb section

and just look at the damage done breakdown

That's just out of game

in game notter's is the best way for the quick feedback

[slim hamlet]

oh yea

4.82 mil one on Nymue kill

wicked

Btw when u are zoomed into a time on logs, can u zoom out in another way than just going back on browser?

[quasi ledge]

Usually can remove the zoom selection just under where you select the boss/pull. Not used logs in a while though

[slim hamlet]

My highest on dmg amp is 7.9 mil on smolderon without bl

ahh yes

[gaunt moat]

without BL. how

[slim hamlet]

idk

[gaunt moat]

PI?

[slim hamlet]

I am like hyper geared, but this was a while ago

yea

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/QKXkDYqwPgfL2JVF#fight=34&type=damage-done&source=14&ability=385627&start=4907037&end=4940331

2 weeks ago

[gaunt moat]

imagine getting PI

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

Imagien bloodlusting on dmg amp on smolderon

Can't wait for mythic

Imagine BL execute if I had 7.9m without

holy moly

[arctic hare]

We actually BL on smolderon heroic last night, actually kinda worked for prog

[slim hamlet]

tbf it doesn't rly matter on heroic anymore

its not a dmg check since first week

[arctic hare]

Sorry, BL on dmg amp

[gaunt moat]

My highest was 6.19m KB a week ago
with BL

[arctic hare]

Well, our issue is our healers, they’re, a bit, shall we say, lackluster.

[slim hamlet]

Oh my Nymue one was also without BL btw

Seems I just do better without

I wonder if BL on pull or execute is biggest dmg usually?

When is ideal pot timer if u dont get 2 uses

[gaunt moat]

on mythic i'm starting to doubt it's better to save.
it's kinda hard to dps in phase 2

[slim hamlet]

safe what for which?

[gaunt moat]

BL

[slim hamlet]

Which boss

[gaunt moat]

thought you're talking about smolderon

[slim hamlet]

Nono

Just a normal fight

idk if its better to pot on pull or during execute

potion not bl

because I always hit my giga cooldowns on execute rather than the on pull one

[gaunt moat]

make the fight last long enough and you can do both. think gif

[slim hamlet]

Like look how close that is

without pot on the 2nd one

3rd*

[pulsar dirge]

how are you getting such juicy caustic spatter on Igira , aren't the positions predertiment outside of 12 yards, or are we doing it too carefully?

[gaunt moat]

My general rule is: use pot when you have BL

use on pull if fight long enough

[slim hamlet]

Ideally they are like 10 yards all from boss

Yea I think so too

but I am getting juicy af execute CDs

on the sim it is also higher on opener

so I guess

[marble hemlock]

Mine look worse

[arctic hare]

So i use something called omnicd that shows the seconds as well iirc

[hard river]

that's the average across all iterations, the execute peak could be lower just because the timing is not as rigid as the opener

[rustic hornet]

so every top sin rogue is just using embersoul now

[rotund oak]

Kicking whispyr's butt on smolderon

no sbs tech though

(watching some logs)

[marble hemlock]

huh?

[rotund oak]

warcraftlogs u got a rank 17 whispyr a 19

[marble hemlock]

oh

[spice spire]

Unfortunately seli decided to smolderon dn

[marble hemlock]

okay

[royal lantern]

whisp got smoldy down?

[marble hemlock]

i, err

dont really care about logs

i just press buttons

boss dies, me happy

[royal lantern]

private logging made me stop caring

like

who cares

boss dead

me happy

[quiet oar]

So many people care tryan

so many...

Too many

[rotund oak]

yup im just making fun after logs(trying to poke whispyr into the conversation)

[royal lantern]

thats cool for them

and then they are still hardstuck at nymue or smth like that, like bruh stop caring

[royal lantern]

i wish you could see my with that

[woeful meteor]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[royal lantern]

2x gray on smoldy

[spice spire]

Whatever

Boss died

Who cares

[royal lantern]

playing sub without swapping enchants and dead on both kills

cba wasting 10k too get 2x sophic

for a spec i wont touch anymore for the rest of the tier

[rotund oak]

''my'' as in ur log aight?

coz dont get me wrong u are a cool guy but my gf is better

[royal lantern]

gf is always better

🫂

[thorn fjord]

Nah

gf = stress

[rotund oak]

depends,it has ups and downs

as everything in this world

besides double cheese pepperoni pizza

there is no downside to that

[quiet oar]

Asks people with lactose intolerance

[royal lantern]

well, there is a downside

its where the pepperoni and double cheese is placed on

like

[thorn fjord]

Floppy NYC style pizza

mmmm

[rotund oak]

like pepperoni underneath cheese?

or lets say in the floor

or the ceiling

[royal lantern]

yoooo

[spice spire]

No flop according to the pres

0 flop NY

[thorn fjord]

I like a little bit of flop

[royal lantern]

talking about flop

we should do floppa posting again

[quiet oar]

So the peperoni is still raw?

[rotund oak]

no,ofc not

not that it needs alot of cooking anyway

its thin

[quiet oar]

Yeah thats why when you making Pizza yourself

[rotund oak]

i am most of the time

[quiet oar]

Pizza, sauce, cheese and than peperoni and stufd

[rotund oak]

unless there is a special occasion and i order

[thorn fjord]

Ham and Pineapple

[rotund oak]

u should be executed

in public

[thorn fjord]

No

[rotund oak]

pineapple in pepperoni pizza

[thorn fjord]

i said Ham and Pineapple

[slate crown]

Yeah pineapple is fine

[rotund oak]

ild respecc to outlaw right now to shoot u lul

[thorn fjord]

Not pepperoni and pineapple

[slate crown]

The ham I cannot stand however. To the chair

[spice spire]

Oh god

We’re having the pizza talk

[thorn fjord]

salty and sweet is a nice combination

[slate crown]

Pickles and peanuts

I'd do it

[thorn fjord]

My favorite is green peppers black olives and onions tho

mmm

[rotund oak]

i like pineaaple in tartes and sweet with icecream and stuff

its pretty refreshing ngl but pizza its a no for me

[thorn fjord]

Pineapple in icecream?

[spice spire]

Ham and pineapple belongs on pizza

[thorn fjord]

You monster

[thorn fjord]

man of culture

[slim hamlet]

[spice spire]

Pineapple is good in ice cream?

[rotund oak]

with icecream yes,its actually very tasty

[slim hamlet]

Pineapple ice cream is sick af

[thorn fjord]

Sounds sus

[fallen forge]

no ur numbers look prettier so theyre better

[thorn fjord]

Thats some white people stuff right there LOL

[rotund oak]

not pineapple icecream u bozos

[fallen forge]

[slim hamlet]

Pineapple sorbet

[rotund oak]

vanilla icecream with pineaaple slices

[spice spire]

Yeah sorbet

Whatever

[slim hamlet]

Aint no way u guys haven't had fruity ice cream

[gritty verge]

hey all new to assassin. all of the guides im reading/using say that i should use sanguine blades, however i cannot find it in talents or skills xD any help would be appreciated.

[spice spire]

Also banana split

[fallen forge]

no way u call out my sandwich take after saying this

[gaunt moat]

gonna color them pink with sparkles next update

[slim hamlet]

Can I split your banana?

[thorn fjord]

its on the right side of the spec tree

[slim hamlet]

?????????? Where in the world is fruity "ice cream" aka sorbets not a normal thing

wtf

[thorn fjord]

I LOVE banana splits

[fallen forge]

there's also a search bar in talents

[gritty verge]

and it is supposed to be a passive not an active correct?

[thorn fjord]

yeah

[rotund oak]

its cool yup

[thorn fjord]

You dont play around it either

Just let it vibe

[fallen forge]

🧢

not all fruit flavors

[slim hamlet]

Imagine if we ended up with the active sanguien blades btw

[gritty verge]

cheers ty

[rotund oak]

also i summon @midnight mist as a specialist in microwaving food to talk about icecream and pinneaple and pizza lul

[thorn fjord]

Pistachio ice cream is top tier

[rotund oak]

./vanish

[fallen forge]

wow yall nasty

[slim hamlet]

Best ice cream is skildpadder

[spice spire]

In English?

[slim hamlet]

i dont think there is name for it

[spice spire]

Ahh googling sec

[slim hamlet]

it means turtle

But its obviously not turtle

It's these

[spice spire]

Oh yeah turtle ice cream is a thing here

[slim hamlet]

Chocolate with rumish taste

[rotund oak]

that looks yummy

gimme

[spice spire]

Ik what you meant

[slim hamlet]

Its soo fucking good

[thorn fjord]

Theyre getting Olive Garden Catered today at work

[fallen forge]

[thorn fjord]

I'm pooping like a bear at some point

[spice spire]

Here they have like a caramel center

Caramelish

[slim hamlet]

Yea it's like caramel a bit rum ish

Some only have caramel

Best ones are with both

[rotund oak]

tell me where are u,ill swim the atlantic for that

[slim hamlet]

Denmark it is everywhere

[rotund oak]

ah then i drive there lul

[slim hamlet]

Coconut ice cream is also a banger

[spice spire]

Also United States apparently

[uncut dragon]

Another turtle made it to the water

[slim hamlet]

But hard to find

[rotund oak]

yup coconut is amazingly good

[spice spire]

Ye I fw coconut

Strawberry is my favorite basic ass flavor

[rotund oak]

same

[slim hamlet]

Banana+chocolate chunks or mint+chocolate chunks also S tier

Those really big chunky ones from gelatto

[spice spire]

Ye solid choices all around lads 🤝

[slim hamlet]

if that is a thing outside denmark

[spice spire]

Just haters on pineapple pizza

[slim hamlet]

it is

[spice spire]

[slim hamlet]

I would never buy a pineapple pizza, but if it was at an event I would eat for sure

[rotund oak]

pineapple pizza is considered open mockery to pizza fans

should be punishable lul

[slim hamlet]

Swedsh pizza

First thing on google

[spice surge]

Pineapple pizza isnt swedish

[spice spire]

Anyone speaks of the banana pizza

[slim hamlet]

I havent said that

[spice spire]

I will scream

Fuck

[slim hamlet]

Thats a real meatlover

[spice spire]

Death is too kind

[slim hamlet]

anyone had potato pizzas?

Actually a banger homemade, but shouldn't be called pizza

[spice surge]

They flame us for the pizza yet get upset when we criticize their cumglazed cinnamon buns

Smh my head

[stark kraken]

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616

[spice surge]

https://stephaniessweets.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/IMG_6836-3.jpg

[slim hamlet]

Who doesn't like cumglazed cinnamon buns

[spice spire]

I had a lot of pineapple so it was a sweet glazing

[slim hamlet]

It's legit 5k calories in a bite

it will be good

[spice surge]

https://swedishspoon.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/kanelbullar-på-hög-1.jpg
Are just better and less sugar

[rotund oak]

cinnamon buns good

[slim hamlet]

Those are good too

But they get stale so fast so they become hard and sad

Klejner and norwegian klejner is the best pastry known to man

Do they have an english word

[rotund oak]

Norway is generallly bis

[rotund oak]

im moving sometime next year

[slim hamlet]

Guessing not

How the fuck does that translate to toddlers

[thorn fjord]

Damn y'all posting cinnomon rolls now

FUCK

im hungry

[slim hamlet]

This bro

We gonna make this tomorrow with my brother

[thorn fjord]

We got this place down here called Knausberry Farms

[slim hamlet]

About to eat 10k calories a day for a week

[thorn fjord]

Mormon Cinnomon rolls

dude they are so good

Amish not mormon im dumb

[dark token]

That's kiwi pizza

Possibly even worse

[slim hamlet]

It is without a doubt worse what

[grave nova]

is it safe to use a macro that replaces mutilate with ambush if you have a proc?

[slim hamlet]

the game does that automatically

[sharp mountain]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[grave nova]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[grave nova]

im proud to no longer be a sub and outlaw gamer, outlaw gives me too many headaches, sub/sin it is now

[serene basin]

does anyone here have that PI spreadsheat?

[grave nova]

https://bloodmallet.com/chart/power_infusion

[plush pivot]

silly question for all you pros maybe, but if i were to drop DTB for Tiny Toxic Blades with Arterial Precision in M+.. good or bad idea?

[empty pilot]

the guide covers the differences in specs I believe.. look for the dungeon slice/arterial shock builds on WoWhead

[plush pivot]

ive looked, but cant seem to find anything. i'll look again 🙂 kinda new to rogue. have only played it really since 10.2 dropped

[empty pilot]

I personally use cleave for most of mythic and I'm doing 18-21s

let me find it for you, one sec

[empty pilot]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/talent-builds-pve-dps

[plush pivot]

very much appreciated! thank you for the time 🙂

[empty pilot]

no worries, if you have any questions from the guides then shoot em over

these tabs are what you're looking for

[plush pivot]

yep.. looking at it now. doesnt seem Tiny Toxic Blades is something to use according to what i see 🙂 thanks again!!

[grave nova]

with improved garrote the guide says to let the entire duration go through, theres no pandemic window for it?

[spring kite]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[pale wave]

For Keys, I have these trinkets, what's ideal combo? I can sim but just curious what's consensus

-483 Branch
-483 Pips
-483 Ashes
-483 Crab

[spice spire]

Pretty bad

[solar niche]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bTfn6yBMKCjdxgka#fight=18&type=damage-done&source=40
Been looking to improve my sin abilities.
I feel like I have the rotations in a good spot (Not perfect still some fine tuning)
But I'm feeling like I should be doubling my dmg, what am I missing?

[plush pivot]

thanks much. just was looking at the talent and thought i'd ask the pros 🙂 still got alooot of learning with assassination rogue 😄

[spice spire]

We all start somewhere

[plush pivot]

now to just get good 😄 doing 18s and have done a few 20s, but just feel like im not getting the most out of what i CAN do as assa

[arctic socket]

What ever the sim tells you

[solar niche]

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/bTfn6yBMKCjdxgka/18/40
Would being this far off efficiency affect the dmg output by 50k-70k??

[arctic socket]

But most likely pip + branch

[hard plaza]

people generlaly play Artieral or the hybrid spec in M+, just simmed comparing the two and the hyrbid is quite alot higher

[arctic socket]

Wow analyzer is outdated

Don’t use it

[solar niche]

Dont forget to use feint!!

[solar niche]

Shit...

[spice spire]

Yeah it’s only@updated to 10.1.5

Give me a second

[arctic socket]

Ask @spice spire for log reviews

He will gladly do them

[spice spire]

Dog?

[plush pivot]

i was today years old when i learned that cloak gets rid of entangling 😄 . i dont use feint as much as i should tho

[arctic socket]

He did like 8 reviews yesterday

[arctic socket]

I wish sprint would clear roots

[solar niche]

Entangle is easy to get out of, I'd save it for other things

[arctic socket]

But I wouldn’t cloak entangling

Ever

[plush pivot]

i was just in the middle of a big pool while i was entangled and popped cloak in panic 😄

[arctic socket]

Fair

[spice spire]

Misfit Log Review

[plush pivot]

thanks everyone for the help! really appreciate it!

[quiet oar]

Thresh bullying Quake to do log review

[arctic socket]

https://tenor.com/view/macho-man-randy-savage-macho-man-randy-savage-randy-mario-poffo-world-wrestling-federation-gif-5341044

[solar niche]

Hey buddy! Could I interest you in another log?? 😄

[arctic socket]

Ask whispyr later

[spice spire]

Everyone is

Hate it here

[quiet oar]

Is there a place you dont hate here

[spice spire]

Yeah but keeping that a secret from you mfs

I swear to god

[quiet oar]

Its Off-Topic guys

[full summit]

Lies, god can’t save you

[spice spire]

False bestie

[arctic socket]

He’s talking about the community figure channel they have

[quiet oar]

Thats what someone who got caught would say quake

[arctic socket]

Where only figures / officers have access to

[spice spire]

Also false bestie

[arctic socket]

Can you review my logs?

[spice spire]

That’s where serious talking happens

Yeah I guess since that’s where we are

[arctic socket]

And my friends please

[spice spire]

4 today

That’s fine

[arctic socket]

We gotta make it double digits

[spice spire]

After that got 2 more ig

[arctic socket]

Boys make it happen

[spice spire]

Yeah nah

[quiet oar]

Quakes favourite channel here, is the channel where they make fun of some regulars

[spice spire]

Also false bestie

You’ll never guess it in a million years

Iykyk

If you don’t you don’t

[quiet oar]

So you confirmed this channel exist

[arctic socket]

I mean yeah

Why wouldn’t?

[spice spire]

Can’t say I’ve made fun of any regulars

Like without them being present

I bully @slim hamlet all the time

[slim hamlet]

Oh

[quiet oar]

and scana

[slim hamlet]

I legit opened my phone

And the very first thing I see is that

After being gone for an hour

[spice spire]

That’s very true

Scana a great mf tho love that guy

[quiet oar]

You love to hatelove him

[spice spire]

Pleb is just hilarious

[pine dew]

If my Envenom Chain accidently breaks like at 120 Energy would i still wait for 80% to start a new chain?

[quiet oar]

I wish i could see your Thoughts yesterday quake

when you saw zeross in OT

[spice spire]

You did

If you went into outlaw

[spice spire]

Probably.
Because you want to keep chaining. That’s a question I’d have to like actually play to answer definitely. But I’m erring on the “pool to chain again” answer

[quiet oar]

True

Hows your progress going quake

[spice spire]

Wdym

I haven’t played this tier

That’s the whole bit about hating log reviews

[quiet oar]

OHHH

I thought you were playing

[spice spire]

No no. Probably gonna be back Christmas week, for a bit. Been without my computer for over a month

[quiet oar]

Oof

So you want to play, but couldnt

[slim hamlet]

Quake is retired

[spice spire]

Ye unlucky

Guild been progging without me

They’re on Larry rn

[slim hamlet]

Now only here to oversee whatever is going on here and look at logs

[spice spire]

Ye

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-despair-meme-atone-gif-18083281511005463831

[spice spire]

Hell as I call it

[slim hamlet]

I think my hell will be a compilation of conversations from some people in here on repeat

[spice spire]

Last night was a heater

(Haha I hardly know er haha)

[near valley]

[slim hamlet]

[quiet oar]

[spice spire]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[spice spire]

@solar niche

[slim hamlet]

Is he talking to the voices again?

[spice spire]

No, commands don’t work in threads

So I have to pull them in main channel

[slim hamlet]

Oh

[spice spire]

Bozo

[slim hamlet]

I didn't know we still used threads

Bozo

[fallow canopy]

talking about hell

can someone please review my log and tell me if there's somewhere where I'm screwing up or missing something important? Appreciate it ❤️ https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/xM8rK93CbYTJDZkN#fight=22&type=damage-done&source=7

[royal lantern]

@spice spire this channel is your personal purgatory

endless log reviews

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/every-day-every-day-i-wake-up-i-wake-up-marriage-story-marriage-story-wake-up-gif-19948669

[solar niche]

ty

[slim hamlet]

U said yes to one log review

Now it's your job bozo

[thorn fjord]

Come to miami papi lets get loaded

[spice spire]

God I wish

[thorn fjord]

Holidays are almost over man... I've been having a shit time too.

WE'RE ALMOST THERE BRO

[spice spire]

True

How’s the little one btw

[thorn fjord]

His new favorite word is No

[cerulean nest]

anyone know of any sin on M tindral videos? havent found any

[spice spire]

[thorn fjord]

but he has been LOVING all the Christmas stuff

[spice spire]

YouTube videos? No

But I know a few of the gamers are progging it rn

[cerulean nest]

just want to watch a stream or something yeah

[spice spire]

Idk if @gusty mirage is sub or not

[thorn fjord]

Apparently Sub is the play with acro

Prob not... Atleast not yet

[spice spire]

And maybe @earnest remnant though I’d be surprised if he weren’t sub

Also seli

[cerulean nest]

I mean on logs its a pretty even split between sin and sub kills

[clever dust]

Guys, how much attempts u'v done for "nick of time"?

[cerulean nest]

and I vastly prefer sin

so I plan on doing that

[spice spire]

The reason I’d be surprised is stealthi is a sub rogue. He plays sin and enjoys it. But hard for me to not see him as sub

[earnest remnant]

i play sub on it

[spice spire]

Figured

But knew you have played some sin this tier

[earnest remnant]

have played assa on it

[spice spire]

I know whispyr isn’t there yet

Seli is

But good luck finding a seli stream

[cerulean nest]

all good. I did our first night on it as sin and roots are fine so far with our comp

I'll just stay on it for the time being

is the reason more people use ashes than branch just because of cringe movement for it?

[slim hamlet]

There are some crisp s1 m+ vods

somewhere in the void

[cerulean nest]

@earnest remnant any specific tips for sin on it?

I assume just standard timings and dont die

[earnest remnant]

p2 you need to delay kingsbane

also Nibren has tindral kill on his twitch

[cerulean nest]

until when? I can check logs obv

[earnest remnant]

dont remember which dispel set it is

it to time it with roots

[cerulean nest]

gotcha

[spice spire]

Didn’t realize nibren played sin this tier

[earnest remnant]

only boss he played sub on was smolderon

[slim hamlet]

OL smolderon enjoyers

[gusty mirage]

Tried both. Sub is better

Also I don’t stream after my last one got reported for the music I was listening to

[earnest remnant]

what music did you listen to?

[cerulean nest]

we're a 2 day guild and taking a couple days off the next two weeks for holiday stuff, so I imagine by the time we're deeper into prog another nerf will happen. looks really fun as sin

[runic hinge]

Birthday song by 2 chainz

On repeat

[gusty mirage]

I’ll dm you the song

[regal kiln]

Can someone explain what stats are actually the best ? cuz i see ppl with crit haste and mastery

hard to know whats bis stuff

[thorn fjord]

What were you listening to?

Was it boots and hats stuff?

[slim hamlet]

whgat robot says

all is good

[regal kiln]

alright imma listen to robot then

[crystal vault]

whats the best timing to get pi, on KB or deathmark press?

[slim hamlet]

dm

[willow wren]

is there an infographic of some sort on the fast openers

[balmy condor]

The same as normal openers but you skip rupture or envenom at the start and then cast them during dance instead