assassination

[clever sapphire]

those people are memeing on their heroic reclears

[south gyro]

I think it is, you really dont have any energy problems during the opener, yeah, there is a mastery increase, but I think its worth to save it for next opener or when you get starved of energy

[limber lion]

Should definitely aim around 90%+ Envenom uptime on a boss like Volcoros for sure

[slim estuary]

I think I messed up my opener on volc. I'll check

[restive spire]

i miss opener like a mf

[slim estuary]

No apparently I didn't.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GZ3WQpDwakhCntJb#fight=14&source=1&type=casts&view=timeline

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-water-holy-exorcist-exorcism-gif-20004005

[hollow vessel]

Should I let improved rupture expire? Because I should do that with garrotes, right?

[royal lantern]

begone

[royal lantern]

yes

empowered dot = let it run out

and ofc instantly re-apply the second its gone

[hollow vessel]

and I should try to empower Ruptures during shadow dance windows?

[cursive frost]

The dps difference in doing that vs another envenom is like very very small

Assuming you keep your envenom buff

[limber lion]

Should keep Envenom buff up and you should only reapply Ruptures during Dance if Rupture is in pandemic

No point forcefully reapplying Rupture if it's at 20s

[hollow vessel]

I don't know why but all my rogues (including me) do terrible damage, so I'm trying to fix whatever I can
I've got better parses and damage as an Outlaw than playing Assa

And I swear to god I follow the rules

[restive spire]

its probably almost definitely something youre doing wrong in kingsbane

[hollow vessel]

I'm having a blast playing Outlaw but my wrist isn't having fun

[slim estuary]

@limber lion here's igira too, take your pick
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GZ3WQpDwakhCntJb#fight=10&source=1&type=casts

[storm cloak]

For a fight like council is the bone spear build worth it if your guild doesn’t keep em grouped well?

[hard plaza]

woo nick of timeeeeee

[clever sapphire]

tried it, it felt good, but just the normal build felt the best for me

[fierce sigil]

When is rupture empowered?

[ember gyro]

Does anyone have a WA that makes a sound when Spatter has a few seconds left? I've tried making it myself and haven't gotten what I need

[limber aurora]

no set piece...
would you get the pants and throw into catalyst for 2piece or take the veteran trinket

[clever sapphire]

you can farm pants and trinket too

(not this specific trinket but branch which is numerically better)

i would do raid first before taking any loot

[limber aurora]

good call thats what ill do

[feral mason]

You can get “guaranteed” 4p now anyway

3 catalyst charges and 1 token

Gotta farm some keys or raid though

[limber aurora]

if i have to do one more everbloom and see a person that is not me get the branch im gonna lose it

yeah ill get the 4piece with the cata stuff then and wait for the raid results

[feral mason]

Depends on if you want to get your tier asap or not but you could take ashes as a placeholder in the meantime

Think it upgrades to 460 or smth

not too bad

depends how much faith you want to put in catalyst pieces dropping

[clever sapphire]

veteran is 463 if i remember correctly

!up

[feral mason]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[dark token]

socket angle

[feral mason]

u rite

[clever sapphire]

ha me first

[mellow spruce]

How is Fyrakk trinket ? I guess mydas is way better ?

[dark token]

or take 6 coins into an extra spark

[feral mason]

Nah man that gear is still pretty large for someone doing lfr and +5-10 keys

[limber aurora]

yeah my rogue is only at 445

[dark token]

ah

i would do extra sparks then

that gear kinda useless

extra spark lets u get a big crafted item

which will be higher ilvl

[clever sapphire]

what do sparks get you without the tokens to get gear

[feral mason]

Could do that ig

[dark token]

463 base ilvl

[feral mason]

Idk man id just take ashes and catalyze something from dungeon

[neat plank]

anyone here still running cleave build in fort week? 🙂

[clever sapphire]

so a veteran item

[dark token]

there are also 2 free wyrm crests

[feral mason]

Waiting until after raid is good too

[stable storm]

463 i think

[dark token]

i would wait till after raid but i got insta socket vault

anyway spark will payoff more longterm when he farms crests

[clever sapphire]

ya gonna be me, i just wanna see 1 guy melt and the rest get spattered

[dark token]

this gear is replaceable

i would go for longterm gain

socket or spark

[clever sapphire]

ik, but this season i dont value spark items at all

like i value my crests much more

until im fully geared and dont need crests anymore, crests gonna be more value in my eyes

[dark token]

ye but this guy has only veteran gear in vault

[median agate]

Yo, does numbing poison stack with curse of tongues/weakness?

[limber aurora]

your eyes would fall out if you saw the crap im running around with

[clever sapphire]

i dunno, i dont think there is a "best" choice for him

since everything is gonna be replaced anyways

so its just take whatever you want

taking pants/trinket gonna be replaced sure

but it wont cost you any gold

unlike a spark

[dark token]

ye

[stable storm]

have u alrdy got the embelishments?

[dark token]

this is why i advocate for something u wont replace

[stable storm]

if so just save sparks in case u rly need an upgrade

[dark token]

a socket for when u get a myth track piece

or spark with aspect craft

[neat plank]

yeah and I just enjoy blindside procs and boss dmg too much 🙂

[limber aurora]

i got mirror from lfr last week, so another on use trinket to play sounds not very cool
the pants are champ track which would be a serviceable catalyst
socket is a nice choice but itll be a while till i reap the benefits

[dark token]

socket isnt immediate gain but best longterm gain when he starts farming 18s

at 447 u can already do em

just have to raise ur own key

[limber aurora]

ill just wait after clearing this weekend and see what is left to fill

[clever sapphire]

i tried out the ap/sd build yesterday after only running cleave for a while. It felt so bad on bosses for some reason

and didnt feel fulfilling enough in aoe

[clever sapphire]

yap thats true

but for immediate gain, its catalyst/trinket probably

[lusty saddle]

it wich order do you pop cds in m plus if that makes a diffrence?

[past forum]

Weakness yeah, tongues probably but not certain

[stiff frost]

Grats

I am still chasing mine and my second dagger

[cunning geyser]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ngq9bWdYSiKXup5d8ZNhk2
Any reason I'm simming more with embersoul?

[feral mason]

Cant see the stat distrib rn but assuming its because you barely have haste and way too much mastery

Branch should be better usually

weird doesnt seem like you do

[south osprey]

Does anybody know if wound poison works on Lord Waycrest in WCM

[feral mason]

pretty sure his hp just gets set to 100%

Usually play with a lock that has passive healing reduc so im assuming it doesnt, since nothing happens with that

[oak tangle]

i'm tryna get into keys with my aug, why's no one inviting

[feral mason]

bro id invite naked augs for 20s man

[hot fulcrum]

do you have 3200 rio on main?)

[feral mason]

breath of eons + prescience does enough

[oak tangle]

only 2600 😦

[hot fulcrum]

this is the reason)

[feral mason]

it isnt

My 470 warlock doesnt get invited for 17s

[oak tangle]

am i aiming too low at 2's

[feral mason]

and main is 3.2

[oak tangle]

do i need to go mid teens for people who check io

[feral mason]

Friend is 3.4 main and doesnt get invites either

[hot fulcrum]

try with 397 warlock 😉

[feral mason]

gotta be 4k main rio to get invited to 15s

ggs

[clever sapphire]

you guys are dumb, you have to be a dh or open your own key

there is no inbetween

[oak tangle]

pog we got into a rise

wish me luck

[clever sapphire]

whats in rise

besides suffering

and pain

[oak tangle]

higher than 397 ilvl gear

[clever sapphire]

good point

gl

[hot fulcrum]

hats

[clever sapphire]

ah ye i should farm rise too actually

only trinket i dont have out of dungeons yet

i even have a few tank trinkets already from the tanks that dont need it

[hot fulcrum]

try tanking then. on rogue

[clever sapphire]

i do that half the time already

im used to stealing aggro

even with tricks

because dm kb burst goes brrr

[hot fulcrum]

try to use tricks on tank instead of yourself)))

[clever sapphire]

good pointer

might try later

[real pike]

I miss 15% damage buff from tricks

[stiff frost]

It was nice

[royal lantern]

allright guys

here it comes

vault time

[stiff frost]

Good luck

Mine was junk the last two weeks

[royal lantern]

@gusty mirage where is the "can the vault not be a socket angle for once" club located?

[stiff frost]

Man that's pretty bad lol

[royal lantern]

just like all my vaults this patch

lmao

fuck vault

[stiff frost]

Depends on your gear though do you need catalyst pieces

[royal lantern]

another thing i hate m+ for

making the vault important for gearing

[stiff frost]

Yeah vault needs bad luck protection or slot protection

[arctic venture]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[clever sapphire]

bis outlaw trinket

leggo

[stiff frost]

I just wish I got gear from mythic plus

[royal lantern]

keep yourself save

[grim jay]

The belt kinda summs it up

[clever sapphire]

[royal lantern]

you mean 1 of the 2 slots where i have mythic lvl items?

7/9 mythic btw

0 mythic tier pieces

[grim jay]

I mean the name

[royal lantern]

no mythic weapons

[grim jay]

[royal lantern]

no mythic trinkets

[stiff frost]

I feel like as assassination rogues we are use to the eternal struggle

[royal lantern]

7/9

its hilarious

[grim jay]

Well I dont have mythic trinkets either

[stiff frost]

Same all mine are maxed champion

[grim jay]

Im not down that bad

[stiff frost]

Lol

Thanks

[grim jay]

I atleast have 483

[stiff frost]

Lol i do more tanking than running on my rogue in mythic plus

[sweet dawn]

What's the "accelerated" opener that people use on tindral platforms?

[stiff frost]

I use the normal opener

[lusty saddle]

wich is?

[stiff frost]

Didn't know there was an accelerated opener

[royal lantern]

skip rupture pre-kingsbane, do it inside kingsbane instead

[sweet dawn]

ty

[stiff frost]

Yep it's the first thing I pop when I kingsbane/shadow dance

[grim jay]

Rupture inside as in how you rupture inside every time you open your vault?

[royal lantern]

yes

[lusty saddle]

is there a good opener guide?

[stiff frost]

No that's wither aways when you open a vault slowly week by week

Umm wowhead

Thats the one I referenced

[lusty saddle]

someone here said its trash but ok

[stiff frost]

Unless I have been doing that one wrong

Oh

Well OK then I am using the wrong opener then

Yes when that first edible hits in the morning

Time for some tanking lol

[grim jay]

Thats kinda stupid

Considering the guide on wowhead is written by Whispyr

[lusty saddle]

well dont kill the messenger

[fierce rivet]

So guys, did anyone try lariat + blue silken lining in m+ as assa yet

[stiff frost]

Maybe whispyr said it was trash

Lol

[grim jay]

Most people wont have the sockets yet

[lusty saddle]

are people using poison bomb in m plus?

[fierce rivet]

Yes

I’m wondering whats the best replacement for toxic thorns

[grim jay]

Depending on the build, the builds are on wowhead aswell

[fierce rivet]

They’re obviously trash in m+

[grim jay]

Nah they fine

[indigo epoch]

I am but only above 18s or so. Below 18 I like AP build

[fierce rivet]

I tried running double silken lining in m+ this week on tyrannical, and it seemed to work

[lusty saddle]

well just becasue there is a build on wowhead dont say whats best or preferred does it

[fierce rivet]

Bro it’s 3% overall

[stiff frost]

I have my two silken lining waiting till I am done upgrading my last two pieces

[fierce rivet]

Thats not fine xD

[grim jay]

It does because its written by the guy the big guys get their builds from

[indigo epoch]

Howlix are you trying to be a dick or is it a natural occurence?

[shell quartz]

When do we ashes on KB? if running branch+ashes

[grim jay]

Also they all are pretty equal

[indigo epoch]

Ask for help then be a fuckwad

[feral mason]

wouldnt recommend this for assa, do you have any other trinkets?

[lusty saddle]

not at all but i asked if poison bomb is good and someone tells me there is a spec on wowhead. does that answer my question? no its not

[shell quartz]

crab lmao

[fierce rivet]

Macro it to deathmark

And dont use double on use

[feral mason]

Sorry if you know this already but lot of people use both because they see it top2 on bloodmallet

[stiff frost]

His Sim is telling him ashes is his best trinket

[grim jay]

It does because there are no bad builds on wowhead, they equal

[fierce rivet]

Ashes is by far the best

[feral mason]

Ashes + branch?

[fierce rivet]

Look at top assa rogues

It doesnt suffer from stat decay

Branch does

[grim jay]

They dont wanna deal with orbs

[feral mason]

They use it for comfort not because its better numerically

[grim jay]

Thats about it

[stiff frost]

No ashes pips I believe

[fierce rivet]

Naah its weaker

I play branch + double silken

[grim jay]

Brother it aint

[eternal heath]

lmao

[fierce rivet]

It sux to have 40% stat decay

[feral mason]

He says ashes + branch is what he’s running

so idk

[stiff frost]

Oh ok

[feral mason]

Feel like anything else would sim better personally

[grim jay]

We dont care for stat dr

[feral mason]

Double on use on assa aint it

[grim jay]

If it sims higher it sims higher

[fierce rivet]

If u dont ure gonna underperform

[stiff frost]

I think it's cause he has low haste is why it's telling him to use the trinket

[woeful meteor]

You wouldnt even macro ashes to mark

[grim jay]

Thats troll af

[feral mason]

bro you’re spouting so much nonsense man

[grim jay]

Sims include stat dr

[indigo epoch]

Do you think they would put it in a mythic + build if it was shit?

[fierce rivet]

XD

Just check top assas

[feral mason]

we just told you bud

[lusty saddle]

dude... that is not even remotly what i asked.

[grim jay]

You aint listening for the real reason and just interpret it wrong yourself fam

[marble hemlock]

How about y'all calm down a bit and talk to each other like humans?

[feral mason]

not talking to em at all seems like a good solution too

[lusty saddle]

i am calm as a whistle. i asked a prerfeclty humane question and got told there is specs on wowhead.

[oak tangle]

gg game, got the chromie bug

no loot for me

[feral mason]

on rise or what

[oak tangle]

yeah

[feral mason]

thats fucked man

[grim jay]

You got told its included in the m+ builds. People use those builds. You got told they are about equal. That pretty much answers your question

[oak tangle]

instead of opening door to deios she channels a golden slime

[feral mason]

happened on my 23 first few weeks

Glad it hasnt happened since

[marble hemlock]

Why would the wowhead guide written by one of the top rogue Theorycrafters recommend a talent build if it wasn't good. I'm not quite sure what answer you're looking for.

[lusty saddle]

i asked of people where using poison bomb. a simple yes its good/bad would be fine, i know where are specs with PB in

[oak tangle]

it's not a yes or no question though

poison bomb on a build that doesn't take kb is bad

[marble hemlock]

The next response to your question is "yes"

[oak tangle]

how can oyu answer that with a yes or no

[marble hemlock]

Was that not sufficient?

[feral mason]

do builds without kb exist rn though

[oak tangle]

im sure they exist

[feral mason]

true

[dark token]

they dont exist

[oak tangle]

and are one of the builds of all time

[feral mason]

the underground cookery

[marble hemlock]

You got all the information you needed, including the one you asked for: http://puu.sh/JWBqH/defa1f1800.png

[dark token]

builds without venemous wounds also exist

[stiff frost]

Run it back

[feral mason]

those arent bad though

[marble hemlock]

You then got extra information: There's also builds that don't run it, both of which are viable and performing about evenly.

[feral mason]

or like

[oak tangle]

time to queue for another hour to get a group

[feral mason]

Not terrible

[stiff frost]

What lvl key you running

[indigo epoch]

[marble hemlock]

And as far as the trinket question is concerned: Just because "top rogues" do it, doesn't mean its correct. I know. I ran vigor instead of mfd as Outlaw in SL, knowing it was worse.

[oak tangle]

im 398 ilvl

[stiff frost]

Oh

[grim jay]

Relatable.

[oak tangle]

i'm just applying for groups with the note "trust"

[stiff frost]

Lol

Faith

[marble hemlock]

Being a "top rogue" typically means you're good at playing the game. Doesn't mean you're good at theorycrafting or making the best gearing/talent choices. That's what theoryrcrafters are for.

[feral mason]

all the best rogues bind ashes to dm too

[wind jungle]

sus

[feral mason]

If u dont ure underperforming

[marble hemlock]

They probably just have a /use 13 macro in their DM

[feral mason]

nah was memeing

[oak tangle]

i'm convinced that 99% of being a top rogue is having the guild to funnel you the gear early

[feral mason]

The guy kept going on about what was optimal while he was advising people to bind ashes to dm

idk

[grim jay]

Depends on your criteria for being a top rogue I guess

[marble hemlock]

You typically need to play well, but playing well means a lot of different things.

[feral mason]

I am rank 1 week 1 player

[dark token]

same

[feral mason]

In that case getting loot funneled is nice

[dark token]

i was #1 sin rogue world on day 1

[warped moon]

im trying to change my plater profile for assassination to show fewer debuffs where can i find that in plater?

[feral mason]

I got the week 1 m+ title

[dark token]

trust me

[feral mason]

Every season man

Its too easy

[royal lantern]

whats a top rogue for you

[oak tangle]

i don't mean to diminish the difficulty, but imo alot of peoples appraisal of 'top rogues' has alot to do with the gear they have vs those who may be good and have to rely on m+ pugs for gear

[dark token]

anyone who is top skill doesnt have to rely on m+ pugs for gear

cause they will be in a good guild

[marble hemlock]

Well, my definition of "toprogue" would be very selective. There's no players that are just carried by gear in that category. But there are skill differences that are noticable in certain environments/circumstances.

[oak tangle]

the rotation itself is not that complicated, of course the self analysis is the skill part

[marble hemlock]

but your frame of reference might be very different

[fallow canopy]

Sorry to go on a tangent here but on mythic Nymue can you cloak the full bloom cast to get inflorescence or do you need to receive damage?

[loud hearth]

Can cloak it. I did it on prog

[oak tangle]

of course, i see your point, and players have to have the skill to get into the guilds who will funnel the gear.

[fallow canopy]

oh nice, thank you very much

[loud hearth]

But you can also just feint it and save cloak

[gusty mirage]

We meet at my house every Wednesday night. I serve biscuits and depression

[marble hemlock]

I mean sometimes people get funneled gear for different reasons. We tend to funnel gear into people that don't play much M+ so they lack behind in gfear, so they get more in raid to catch up. Doesn't mean they're great rogues. 😄

[fallow canopy]

I'm a little undergeared so I'm afraid I might get popped but i'll keep it in mind ty ❤️

[marble hemlock]

You were out of biscuits the last few times. Just saying.

[gusty mirage]

Life’s a bitch ain’t it

[grim jay]

It kinda reminds me of the world first player vs other people maining that class/spec discussion some time ago

[marble hemlock]

Be mine?

[oak tangle]

at some point reliability and trust plays a more important part than pure damage

[gusty mirage]

Sure

Can I move to Germany

[marble hemlock]

For most top-end guilds, doing DPS is like the leastz valuable metric for what makes a good prog player

[marble hemlock]

I'm sure y ou can

[grim jay]

You just gotta marry

[gusty mirage]

I know I won’t be welcome by anyone but you, but at least I’ll have free healthcare

[marble hemlock]

nah were kinda welcoming

[gusty mirage]

It’s the small things ya know?

[grim jay]

I welcome you aswell

[gusty mirage]

Leave my family, but I don’t risk homelessness if I get sick/hurt

Kinda worth

[royal lantern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1025913729495343114/1184511278941732884/1702479855655.jpg?ex=658c3d18&is=6579c818&hm=a1d9ceba969c8d2bf412e14a36b33f6590ba0b7d2bcc3fcdb35468837d24c51f& are you ready for this?

[grim jay]

Yeah only if you get old

[gusty mirage]

Brother I’ve driven in beirut. It can’t be worse than that

Lanes are suggestions not law

[grim jay]

Driving in france

Aint nothing sweeter

[gusty mirage]

I try to avoid countries where I’m not considered a human being.

[grim jay]

Dang thats

Actually

Real and based

[gusty mirage]

Never forget when the French told Lebanese children that they brought us “civilization” when they colonized us

[oak tangle]

excuse my ignorance, but isn't lebanon where the ottoman empire was?

[gusty mirage]

Yeah it’s been ran through a few hundred times historically

Even the Romans had their turn

[oak tangle]

bold claim of the french

[worldly plank]

100% legit

[gusty mirage]

What do you eat in Germany if you don’t like sausage or chocolate? @marble hemlock @royal lantern

[oak tangle]

cabage

[gusty mirage]

I like cabbage

[marble hemlock]

people

[grim jay]

Kartoffeln

[royal lantern]

mate, i dont like sausage lol

[marble hemlock]

idk

potatoes

[gusty mirage]

[worldly plank]

potatos or bread 😄

[marble hemlock]

oh yeah

[gusty mirage]

Sold

[marble hemlock]

bread is big here

[gusty mirage]

Potatoes and bread are bis

[marble hemlock]

lots of different and really good breads

[gusty mirage]

Yo Germany low key goated wtf

[grim jay]

Dont forget Sauerkraut

[gusty mirage]

That’s just cabbage bro

[marble hemlock]

bakery looks like this ye

[gusty mirage]

Don’t gaslight me

[royal lantern]

thats no maindish

[oak tangle]

mfw i learnt that a prezel is meant to be more liek bread than those crispy little sticks

[marble hemlock]

i mean

sauerkraut is fucking bis tho

same as rotkraut

[gusty mirage]

That’s too much bread. I’d end up 1600lbs one month in wtf

[royal lantern]

mf's just think you eat it by itself and thats it, when its always togheter with something else that makes it good lol

[indigo epoch]

Fuck that bread looks yummy

[oak tangle]

we had a restraunt chain here in aus, that was a bavarian bier cafe, prok knuckle, sausages, sauerkraut, prezels

mhmmmhmmm

[gusty mirage]

Pretzel bread goated, there’s an old German man who opened a bakery here and his pretzel bread is literally an orgasm for your mouth

[marble hemlock]

ye its like

bratwurst, sauerkraut and kartoffelpüreee

so sauerkraut, mashed potatoes, and bratwurst

[oak tangle]

what's the red cabbage one

[gusty mirage]

Bless you

[manic quartz]

eat some mämmi pls

[gusty mirage]

I don’t eat your weird meats packaged in intestines seli

I’ll just eat bread and cabbage

I’ll feel at home

[indigo epoch]

Mmmmm so good

Weisswurst is good too

[gusty mirage]

@marble hemlock btw p3 is as dogshit as you can imagine

[marble hemlock]

wdym weird meats

[worldly plank]

you have to try Mettbrötchen 😄

[plain onyx]

what exactly is this ? I bet it's another type of hot dogs lol

[gusty mirage]

Can’t eat pork so I will not be trying that

[marble hemlock]

[gusty mirage]

AYO?? A fellow habibi?

[marsh dragon]

is pooling for sanguine blades something u have to actively do or do we just send abilities without thinking about it much?

[indigo epoch]

With a nice doppelbock....

.mmm

[gusty mirage]

You just let it do it’s thing

[plain onyx]

This is my type of food

[marble hemlock]

hotdogs are like

wiener

[oak tangle]

schnitzels exist too

[marble hemlock]

bratwurst is... different

[chilly crag]

does anyone have shiv duration weakaura ? 😄

[gusty mirage]

Fuck yeah

[plain onyx]

eyyy, respect 🫡

[gusty mirage]

This man knows his food

[marble hemlock]

these are all different types of bratwurst

[gusty mirage]

If I move to Germany flights back to the motherland are cheaper and not 10 hours

[marble hemlock]

best one is horse

horse meat is great

[gusty mirage]

You fucking what bro??

[grim jay]

Szegediner Gulasch would like to have a word with you

There are ways to make it part of the main dish.

[marble hemlock]

what?

[oak tangle]

wot does horse taste like

[marble hemlock]

oh ye i forgot

[gusty mirage]

Mfers out here eating Mr. Ed @spice spire help

[marble hemlock]

people in the US dont really eat horse

[royal lantern]

im no sausage guy man

[oak tangle]

i think people in the world dont really eat horse

[indigo epoch]

Lean red meat

[spice spire]

Why the fuck these mfs eating me

[marble hemlock]

its a bit of a mix between beef and venison

its really lean too

[gusty mirage]

Just cause you’re hung like a horse doesn’t make you Mr. Ed

[cursive owl]

._.

[chilly swift]

yes they eat, but they don't know it

[cursive owl]

any takes ?

nice vault or not ?

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-you-what-what-did-you-do-spongebob-meme-spongebob-squarepants-gif-19389913

[indigo epoch]

Rip

[gusty mirage]

God damn… I’m so sorry

[oak tangle]

what does venison taste like, i've no i-deer

[spice spire]

Boo

[gusty mirage]

Kind of like lamb, except a little tougher

[cursive owl]

is the trinket any good ?

[spice spire]

Venison is gamey

[oak tangle]

oh we got plenty of lamb here, so kinda earthy?

[spice spire]

Now duck (don’t tell shmeeps) that’s some good shit

[lucid rain]

you may as well take the trinket

[indigo epoch]

Not always

[oak tangle]

peking duck pancakes are the shit

[uneven summit]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jHdufo6KmMNAN7BZMm8FMp any good ideas on crafts, contemplating a cloak with flavour pocket, or a ring for stat diversity

[gusty mirage]

@keen spruce

[spice spire]

Bruh

[marble hemlock]

oxi is like

#1 snitch

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-phillips-instiagtor-gif-22728638

Oxi rn

[cursive owl]

i mean ._. ...

[gusty mirage]

[cursive owl]

should i relay take trinket ?

[indigo epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/fist-fight-fist-fight-film-ice-cube-snitches-get-stitches-gif-7391040

[gusty mirage]

That’s a socket angle homie

[gusty mirage]

That trinket is actually kinda dogshit

[cursive owl]

KEKW

OK

[indigo epoch]

It's all dogs shit. Better luck next week.

[cursive owl]

no sockets anywhere

i take the 6 coins then

[marble hemlock]

augury is kinda dogshit

[gusty mirage]

Slap it on your toxic patch belt/bracers cause it keeps it when you recraft to a higher ilvl

[marble hemlock]

so yeah, take socket

i got 5 bracers and smolly cloak in my vault today

isnt life fun?

[gusty mirage]

Lmfao

[cursive owl]

hmm O-o

[indigo epoch]

I got myth nick last week... I've used up my good luck for at least the next 10 weeks

[cursive owl]

i can also buy wyrm crests for upgrades OwO

[gusty mirage]

Week 1 I opened vault and had 3 boots and 2 bracers and myth track non tier shoulders

[oak tangle]

3 helmets and a periwinkle for me

[gusty mirage]

And I was like oh okay

[marble hemlock]

but ye anyway

[gusty mirage]

Took shoulders to save crests

[marble hemlock]

horse meat is bis, dont @ me

[gusty mirage]

Sad times

[cursive owl]

socket is better i gues ._.

[marble hemlock]

and if you come to where i grew up, so eastern germany oxi, you get bohemian cuisine, which is goated as fuck

[wooden gorge]

Got my 4th set item today, early christmas gift i guess 😄

[gusty mirage]

Socket unironically big dam

[cursive owl]

when i have 5+ sockets lariat including , should i get lariat instead ?

[wind jungle]

cries in southern US white girl

[marble hemlock]

they put all kinds of things in their mouths, including family members, but when its a horse, they cry about it, smh

[gusty mirage]

Isn’t bohemian the queen song?

[marble hemlock]

i mean, bohemian rhapsody is a song, yes

[gusty mirage]

[swift magnet]

hope you're ok @sudden brook I feel your pain even thoug I only got my KB parried once on Larodar https://twitter.com/ForeverGuy5/status/1734791734842818921

[marble hemlock]

pinging guy in a channel that isnt outlaw

[oak tangle]

i was gonna make more comments about eating horse, but then i realised my country eats half the animals on our coat of arms

[marble hemlock]

@sudden brook wtf is with your middle finger? it looks... odd

[royal lantern]

seli

check the comments

[marble hemlock]

http://puu.sh/JWBwo/cba6569a24.png

[gusty mirage]

[marble hemlock]

at least he killed tindral

im jealous

[gusty mirage]

At what cost though

[cursive owl]

uh , how hard does deminishing return kicks in at what % ?

[spice spire]

469 pulls

[royal lantern]

"bro keybinds up too 9" is my fav

[cursive owl]

i gues i socket versa now

[marble hemlock]

playing assa instead of outlaw. so its fine imo

but ye

[gusty mirage]

Also I’m not convinced sub is better for tindral, nobody at me

[marble hemlock]

parry is fucking dogshit

[spice spire]

Me tho

[marble hemlock]

and i like

dont understand why it still exists

when spellresists got removed like

a decade ago

[gusty mirage]

Assassination’s timings are less cringe. Like you need your dust timings to be on point

[lucid rain]

shadowstep the boss or just don't be dumb

don't be like gromnak

[marble hemlock]

ye i never understood the sub bias either for tindral

other than banging roots

but you dont need that

if your warlock isnt afk

[cursive owl]

because they play too much league ... :3 " Spin to Win ! for the Might of Demacia ! "

[gusty mirage]

Roots are irrelevant now

They just melt

[marble hemlock]

well yeah

7% nerf aint big but its enough

but still

[gusty mirage]

And the “problem” sets line up perfect with KB

[marble hemlock]

idk

i hate the sub cope

well not perfect

i.e. last roots p1 KB JUST comes up

when they spawn

[gusty mirage]

But like if you’re not getting PI it’s kind of a sub angle

[marble hemlock]

so its kinda cringe

[subtle tundra]

How tf do you position on tindral

That he parries you often

[marble hemlock]

in melee range

the boss moves a lot

moving bosses is not great for parries

because server calcs are whack af

[subtle tundra]

I've had 2 kbs parried in 300 pulls

That can't be luck

[marble hemlock]

and boss constnatly turns

[gusty mirage]

Don’t forget the random targeting during abilities where he can turn randomly

[marble hemlock]

cuz mushroom dance

[gusty mirage]

It’s very cool

[marble hemlock]

ye

[subtle tundra]

I guess I'm just better

[marble hemlock]

i dont like how bosses can parry during casts now

[gusty mirage]

Honestly the boss is fucking shit

Whoever designed it should feel bad

[marble hemlock]

parry in general just needs to go

because more and more bosses you cannot just afk behind the hitbox

bosses turn a lot, run around a lot

you have to run around a lot

[gusty mirage]

Just nerf melee damage

Or make non-melee attacks unparryable by bosses

Is that even a word

[subtle tundra]

I live tindral

Hardest boss I've progged

[gusty mirage]

We already know you’re mentally ill it’s ok

[marble hemlock]

id assume it becomes unparriable

because english is weird

where y's to into i's

[subtle tundra]

Just kinda wish we didn't have to kill after it got nerfed

It would've died today regardless of nerfs

[vast lagoon]

guys when u are in aoe do you usually rupture every target?

[oak tangle]

aoe is a broad ranging term where i can't answer that question

[gusty mirage]

Nerfs aren’t as big of a deal as you think

People aren’t gonna roll in and fuck the boss

It just makes that shit overlap in p1 less spooky

[subtle tundra]

Yea but satisfaction

[vast lagoon]

what i mean is do you usually take the time to rupture every target?

[oak tangle]

how many targets are we talking

[vast lagoon]

more than 5

[oak tangle]

probs not

[marble hemlock]

ye p1 prog is gonna be easier

which is where people wipe a lot

and by "people" i mean "trashguilds like mine"

[vast lagoon]

because i was watching whispyr and he was saying that he ruptures multiple targets manually

[marble hemlock]

@gusty mirage do i get leech enchants to hit 30%?

[oak tangle]

yeah, i mean if a pack lives longer you gotta re dot, you want at least 5 for your stacks, i am not qualified to answer specifically how many targets youd dot, but you aint gonna be rupturing like 10 mobs i dont tihnk

[near valley]

play arms

mortal strike to victory

[north tinsel]

Love with KB gets parried

The bee's knees

[tranquil jay]

guys which talent tree is good for this week ?

[near valley]

yes

[vast lagoon]

i think arterial is good

[carmine shore]

the wowhead guide talks about applying rupture in increments of 3, 5, 7, 9, so I don't think anyone is realistically expecting a target swap. you only want to rupture to the point that you're getting solid value from talents and have infinite energy, otherwise your ramp is hella slow.

[spice spire]

I expect it

But I’m different

[vast lagoon]

thank you! because im trying to improve with my aoe since i already improved my single target last week

[near valley]

i too have been watching Whispyr...

[carmine shore]

word, in places where health disparities are massive (EB first pull), i just do garrote garrote full rupture, FoK, rupture with whatever i get from the FoK and then move on with my life

[vast lagoon]

i watched all of his episodes in a span of 1 day

[sweet dawn]

If a pack lives long enough that ruptures fall off and your energy regen slows to -12 you can just reapply ruptures on higher health mobs

[near valley]

i've been watching him 24/7

[storm belfry]

[near valley]

[vast lagoon]

excusee my lack of terminology what does EB and FoK mean

[carmine shore]

everbloom and fan of knives

[vast lagoon]

okay thanks!

will give it a shot now

[vagrant eagle]

hello guys, couple of questions i ve tried to sort out: people are ditchin CT in m+ for tempered blades way, is CT less useful in a fortified week now? than amplifying and bomb?

[clever sapphire]

People enjoy the cleave build more than it seems

Thats about it

[carmine shore]

CT can just be a bit clunky when you're pulling around CDs. you need to re-up in the middle of your KB which doesn't feel super duper

[vagrant eagle]

i see, tvm

[swift magnet]

that one got me

[hardy pawn]

CT?

[carmine shore]

crimson tempest

[atomic swallow]

Wheezing

[vast lagoon]

cleave is viable this week?

[silver escarp]

Do we get the stacks for the head enchant quest in raid finder please?

[oak tangle]

mission success

[lucid rain]

ayy

grats

[swift magnet]

not sure but only took me 4 bosses in nm to get 15 echoed ephemera

[silver escarp]

yea but i raid only tomorrow

[oak tangle]

that is a 100 ilvl upgrade on the ring

lol

[dark token]

i was tempted to go sub just for acro strikes

[swift magnet]

if you do nm with your guild then you only have lfr as an option

[dark token]

those beams on pull are so cringe

[silver escarp]

I do HM tomorrow

[swift magnet]

or you just do the first few bosses with you guild but without your head enchant, not a big deal i'd say

[oak tangle]

lfr does give ephemera

[silver escarp]

yea i'll try a few boss if lfr

[oak tangle]

it's like 4 per boss

i killed 2 and had 49/50

[silver escarp]

that's enough

[carmine shore]

if you haven't watched the latest whispyr video on AOE i would, but i don't think it really matters that much what you choose to run as long as you run it well. cleave gets KB out faster so you're doing more prio, faster, but you're missing out on the sky high potential of a full ramp.

[oak tangle]

the biggest reason i love the ap blindside, is because i play with my dh friend, and stuff doesn't live a full kb

[vast lagoon]

you are talking about episode 6?

[subtle tundra]

Do lfr

[carmine shore]

uh idk which one just talks about the stock AOE build being slow as balls and often times poorly suited for certain dungeon profiles

and keys under 20

[subtle tundra]

First wing dropped 15 echoes

For me

[vast lagoon]

ill give both a try

im tryign the aoe build first then the cleave

[ember gyro]

in keys, on a boss/ST, we don't use Tempest right?

[wind jungle]

Only use CT 4+ targets

[gentle rover]

If our shadow priest is PI’ing me on pull should I accelerate my opener to accommodate or just ignore it and do the full wind up?

[knotty vapor]

Does KB snapshot?

Or is it better to make sure branch buff is up during the final ticks of it

[proper tapir]

It snapshots Nightstalker. Yeah you want to ride out the back end of KB with 3 stacks from orbs.

[stable storm]

whats the command to check out the on use dagger stats?

[knotty vapor]

Alright

Ty

[clever sapphire]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[stable storm]

ty

[clever sapphire]

Its hidden, now type !help

[stable storm]

HELP

[clever sapphire]

Close enough

[knotty vapor]

Ngl I love running full speed enchants and grabbing the 10% buff from the dagger

Fucking 140% base speed

Good memes

[agile gull]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[leaden timber]

recoms for 3rd crafted after thorn boots and toxic bracers?

[normal mist]

At this point is like belt/ring/cloak (?)

Depends on what you're in need the most

I went for a ring

Socket ring + desired stats stonks

[pallid kite]

any tips on what should i get, i don't really know my boots are also 431 ilvl and 1 trinket is 437

[leaden timber]

pips hands down

replace cube

[dawn anchor]

Craft boots, take Pip's

[normal mist]

Aren't those boots you're using crafted?

[lucid rain]

definitely trinket

[willow kite]

how big is the head enchant, roughly

[dark token]

medium large

[hard gazelle]

1.7%

[smoky belfry]

I have a somewhat dumb question, but I'm starting my rogue alt up and reviewnig the materials. In photo 1 it shows a sequence of shiv, shadow dance, KB.

Although I was looking through weak Auras for tracking kingsbane and noticed that some of the bars that track show a tick mark for shadow dance a number of seconds into its duration. So do I not open subsequent kingsbane windows with shadowdance and instead hold it? Just trying to logic through what I'm maybe missing here

[indigo epoch]

Always sd before kb

I Macro them together

[smoky belfry]

reference photo to what im talking about. Red tick is coded as SD

[smoky belfry]

ok cool. just making sure I'm not missing some talent / logic

[digital pollen]

i think thats how long sd is gonna last if you macro sd+kb

[smoky belfry]

ah okay so it's showing the falloff not the activation....that makes much more sense.

its such a good aura but i was sitting there confused

[dark token]

hmmge

[slim hamlet]

Bolstering assa gameplay = mobs having +20% dmg increase 5 sec into the fight

[teal furnace]

what talent set do you recommend for this week?

[dark token]

same one as every week

doesnt really change

[slim hamlet]

u are simming 483 vs 489

[dark token]

no

i have normal

[slim hamlet]

wat

[teal furnace]

AP/Kingsbane/DTB/Carnage?

[dark token]

yes im simming 489 ashes vs 483 branch

[slim hamlet]

yes

[dark token]

becauyse 489 branch dont exist

[slim hamlet]

That's what I said

[arctic socket]

489 branch doesn’t exist?

[dark token]

yup

only sockets exist

[arctic socket]

Poor thing

My vault was horrible

[trail vortex]

quick question.. Sorry.. I'm struggling on my Assas. I don't have 4 pc yet but I'm pulling low numbers. I can't top 110k in an M+ Atm. I'm completely confused by what talent builds to Use. I've been seeing the WoWhead ones, the Murlok ones and the icy veins ones and they're all pretty different. I see many messing around with no Crimson Tempest etc.. Can anyone kinda give me maybe some tips?

[smoky belfry]

Sweet jesus jsut did the correct kingsbane sequence on a dummy my burst doubled

[subtle tundra]

sweet jesus playing correctly means doing damage

[arctic socket]

Yeah if you do the opener properly it’s busted

[subtle tundra]

gah damn

[arctic socket]

Now just beg your group to get externals

[smoky belfry]

i was sitting there on my shitty little 430 rogue and doign it slowly for like 56k dps
.....after we clarified things did the same thing and hit 120k. dafuq is that lmao

[marsh dragon]

do we send an extra TT on opener since we have a stack to spare?

[arctic socket]

Yeah now go get trinkets and nick of times

[midnight mist]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif?width=337&height=600

[slim hamlet]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif?width=337&height=600

[arctic socket]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif?width=337&height=600

[uncut dragon]

query. When I'm using the spatter AOE build, I'm pounding my priority target with mutilates and envenoms. How big an AOE pack do I need before I should switch to fan of knives/envenom instead?

[slim hamlet]

3+

[uncut dragon]

So, all the time in M+ practically

[smoky belfry]

Is this spec going to ruin me enjoying my feral druid this tier? is that what's gonna happen? Is this just gonna make FF + convoke look silly? its gonna isnt it.

[arctic socket]

Well

If you get buffs and stuff yeah

[runic hinge]

I alt feral and it's different but also fun

[arctic socket]

My alt is ret paladin

Two completely different styles

[smoky belfry]

I'm 3/9 mythic on feral and guild had me gear a DH as an alt in case we had to do swaps. But now things are calming down week to week for me so finally have time to fuck around with rogue rewoork

[runic hinge]

Holy power is just Light combo points

[static shore]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[uncut dragon]

Do you only play leather classes?

[arctic socket]

Heh I press 123

[lucid rain]

damn, no whip emote to react with

[runic hinge]

Easier to farm mogs that way

[arctic socket]

I would argue and say rogue is better then a dh

Rogue discord is definitely better

The dh discord man

it’s a place

[trail vortex]

so crimson tempest or no crimson tempest m+

[uncut dragon]

mogs are at least a 1K upgrade in dps

[arctic socket]

Personally I don’t play ct unless it’s a 18+

Mobs die way to quickly

[uncut dragon]

I'm trying the no CT spatter build, idk if this is a bad week to do it with bolstering because my main target goes down fast usually. Seems to work.

[trail vortex]

can you link it?

[smoky belfry]

Wasn't based on strength just based on who could/wanted to play certain specs while keeping a particular roster while covering the meta specs.

[uncut dragon]

but higher key might keep the priority target up longer, I raid but I do M+ because I have to.

[arctic socket]

The higher key is the better CT feels

[uncut dragon]

I just use whispyrs build on wowhead

this is my first week w/ no CT. It does feel good on bosses

[arctic socket]

If you’re doing low keys, just spec into st plus ic

Or play outlaw

[lavish isle]

hey, its worth to castalst head for mythic and hands for hero and legs change to normal ones ? or stay with 5p ?

[runic hinge]

sim it

[arctic socket]

What did your sim tell you?

[frigid kestrel]

I still havnt played CT on 23’s. Maybe when I push higher, but shit just still dies to fast to DH, BM, and the KB burst that I have to rush to get out. If I added CT in that shit it would be a waste.

[lavish isle]

simming atm

[uncut dragon]

you shut your outlaw mouth

[arctic socket]

If you’re doing below a 16

[trail vortex]

which of the talent builds on WoWhead do you run?

[arctic socket]

And want to see yourself do big aoe numbers play outlaw

[arctic socket]

I have this same exact issue

I watch my dh / bm deal over 800-1m aoe pulls

I’m at say 500k

[uncut dragon]

I've done hybrid and cleave both work fine, haven't done areterial shock, I think utilitarian is a little more of a dps loss for convenience, maybe the extra range would let me die less?

[frigid kestrel]

The raid build with IC is the wave, maybe in keys 16 or less you go Sudden Demise and Scent to have a shot at getting some decent overall for meter monkeys.

[frigid kestrel]

I wish someone would find a better build for long arms. I realize not that I have been spoiled.

[ocean goblet]

guys how you track your buffs from roll? there is no weak aura what show it

[frigid kestrel]

……… as in Dice? Got to the OL channel for that.

[ocean goblet]

woops wrong

[uncut dragon]

or give mobs slightly bigger hit boxes so I don't feel like I have to give them a prostate exam to do dps

[smoky belfry]

I've never seen so many people trying to constantly go, "akthulyyyyy" while simultaneously jerking themselves off about min/maxing everything. Like that entire discord channel is people going "well but but but the sim and if you play optimally, and well not suboptimally 100% of the time". Respectfully to the good players in there. But it s a bunch of normal/heroic PUGers freaking out about minute min/max outside of a progression setting just going apeshit on each other. It's....its a trip you're right. Like i think I posted a screenshot there and you could see a talent choice I made for progression and some dude with no mythic experience tried to spreadsheet preach at me.

[frigid kestrel]

If you rush your KB you can get away with 700 - 800 ish. But you gotta sweat to do that.

[spice spire]

ACKSHUALLY

[smoky belfry]

DID YOU HEAR THAT INERTIA IS HIGH SKILLCAP THE 30% HIGHER DAMAGE IS DUE TO OUR SKILL NOT OVERTUNING. YOU COULD NOT DO WHAT I DO ITS VERY HARD.

[left sundial]

Today fyeak parried my kb

Fyrak”

[smoky belfry]

that's .... epic

[runic hinge]

Did you call for a wipe?

[left sundial]

You should see my face there

[smoky belfry]

i'd immediately run off

force them to repull

[arctic socket]

Yeah ik it’s a fun place right Lmao

[spice spire]

Me when I don’t get PI’d at exactly 7.054 seconds into my rotation

[arctic socket]

My kb doesn’t last but 6 seconds

[uncut dragon]

I would disconnect my internet and call it a night

[arctic socket]

I have gotten to the point I don’t press anything

[stable storm]

what build u guys playing this week?

anything good we can take to not die to bolstering?

still ptsd from nuke mobs in freehold

[arctic socket]

Raid build plus IC

[smoky belfry]

I NEED PI AT 6.96969696969696969s into pull you %$#@# %#$@#&

[arctic socket]

[spice spire]

REAL

[stable storm]

thats what im playing rn mister soul snatcher

[smoky belfry]

I'm glad im not the only one who sees that echo chamber lmao

[stable storm]

DH echo chamber?

[smoky belfry]

beginning to think i was an ass

[stable storm]

no way

you reaize how hard dh is to play?

[spice spire]

Yeah either way.
The dh discord is trying to improve. And it has to some degree. I know the staff there is very passionate and tries to make the community better

It’s a steep climb

[stable storm]

having to spam movement abilities to keep momentum up is super hard, since it only goes up to like 30 seconds

[spice spire]

But I’m still gonna meme them fr

[stable storm]

and then pressing immolate and blade dance on cooldown

like do you seriously think just about anyone can play dh?

optimizing rotation during our meta that lasts 1 minute?
bro like super high skill cap fr fr

[spice spire]

Wait I have a copy pasta for this

[stable storm]

aigh

man i was comparing my ST damage %s on outlaw with my friend

i have like 15% vers, and 40 mastery, he has 38% vers and almost no mastery

my mastery main gauche thing did 16% of my ST dmg

(no damage)

my outlaw ST is rly weak man 😦 need more gear

but tbh ass might be more fun in forti

[spice spire]

I no longer have a copy pasta for this

[stable storm]

you can get a full kingsbane in a mob, doing more aoe

[spice spire]

So just take this ig

Who are you talking to right now? Who is it that you think you see? Do you know how high my parses are in amirdrassil? I mean, even if I tell you, you wouldn’t believe it. Do you know what happens if I suddenly decide to stop getting PI’d? A boss big enough it could be listed on the ASP goes belly-up. Gone. It ceases to exist without me. No, you clearly don’t know who you’re talking to so let me clue you in. I am not in danger of not having externals. I am the lizard. A guy opens his front door and sees a grey parse, and you think that of me? No. I am the one who receives PI.

[stable storm]

you get a full kingsbane and boss dies insta

win win

[stable storm]

lmao

bro like

i thought mages warlock the biggest echo chambered specs

had no idea how bad havoc got

specially when they were oneshotting ppl with fel barrage on arena pvp

at the start of ssn

[smoky belfry]

Listen I know that I picked it up mid mythic prog and was able to understand "push CDs/buffs before Big dam button" but it took me years of contemplation to get there. You cannot simply jump in.

agreed they've got some good content creators. It's again, like i said above, the random andys trying to 1 up people instead of just being helpful and chilling (like here or other channels(

[lucid rain]

excellent breaking bad copypasta

[uncut dragon]

I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target....

[stable storm]

bro like

i think and genuinely am a support of

that tanks should be top dps

that way dps players would have ego as big as some do when their spec involves 1 big CD button and 3 buttons to press

bring back mop 🔥 🔥

[uncut dragon]

5-tank raids in M+...

[stable storm]

bro that'd be so fucking cool

[lucid rain]

Pray, elucidate unto me thine belligerancy once more, youth... Erstwhile, while thou hast frittered thine days away in indolence, mine own excellence hath soared higher than the peaks of Sohm Ahl, nay, to the very vaults of the heavens themselves! From the collegiate of Baldesion, to the deepest reaches of Garlemald, fifteen-score men have I lain low, with the grace and skill of chirurgeons of legend, and all the rancor of the Primals and their beastmen subjugate. Thou art yet but one more fetid soul to rend unto Oblivion. Verily, the wrath I have yet to bear upon thine personage will be found even within the tomestones of ancient Allag, so great will thine suffrance be of mine ire, that even time itself will disobey its casual flow and rescribe history forthwith; Hearken to me, cur. Thine words reach mine ears and they resolve into naught but coyness, replete of filth and ignorance. Thine puissant scribework, as grotesque as an unmasked Goblin. Pray, and speak true, dost thou truly believe thineself equal to mine own personage? Nay. Ere long, mine compatriots shall away and arrive anon to thine dwelling, fire and fury in their breasts, stell bared, and cantrip upon the ready. Thou'rt doomed, wastrel; even The Mothercrystal weeps for what shall befall thee. Nay, not even the Twelve themselves shall shelter thee from mine ardor, and even the Ascians will decry my cruelty whenceforth issued. Such will be mine wrath, that it shall bring about the true Eighth Umbral Calamity. Thy glibness hath only wrought ire and fury, and not even the Warrior of Light will be able to save you from mine. For I hath drawn forth the cards of eld, and thine fortunes spelt plain. Thou'rt fucked, churl.

[midnight atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/didnt-read-lol-gif-5740473

[junior yoke]

Too long

[junior yoke]

Here it’s been like this always

[near valley]

anything is an improvement from what they used to be lmao

[carmine shore]

this is a vibe. feeling like I'm LARPing as an AOE king when i run with DHs and BMs that have half a clue what they're doing and i should just go all in on prio damage.

[still creek]

Anyone tested acro on Nymue? Worth it for prog?

[arctic socket]

It’s not much different

[spice spire]

I ain’t reading that essay

[arctic socket]

Read it

[royal lantern]

no

[midnight atlas]

one reason i dont play other classes its their class discord.

we're pretty spoiled here

[arctic socket]

Paladin discord is pretty chill

Just read a lot of wheelchair jokes

[midnight atlas]

yeah but... paladin

[arctic socket]

I might join the hunter discord and see if people complain about BM rotation

[sudden brook]

Sub is for sure worse on tindral

[carmine shore]

BM has a rotation? 😮

[arctic socket]

I mean

Barb shot

[junior snow]

Honestly people in BM channel in the Hunter discord acknowledge BM is mash button

[arctic socket]

Kill command

Beastial wrath

Repeat

Probably

[old hamlet]

good evening i have a question is there a softcap on mastery for assasination ?

[arctic socket]

With how stats are, just sim your character in raidbots and do what ever the robot tells you,m

There isn’t any caps or %s you should be trying to reach

[old hamlet]

thanks for the info

[gusty mirage]

the root nerfs solidify it tbh

assassination legit just takes spatter and does more than enough root damage

[carmine shore]

Thankfully most seem to be aware of the spec that they're playing, and the ones that aren't everyone just rolls their eyes at

[keen spruce]

[sudden brook]

Ppl still don't seem to get that sub steals more aug damage than sin

So even if sub is doing "a bit more dmg" it's not actually

[storm forum]

Do you think I can threaten the Augs in my guild with that?

[storm monolith]

Waddup waddup. I'm new to rogue (making it my secondary as I currently main mistweaver). I saw a talent on the tree and had a question about it. It says that you do % more damage for every distinct instance of poison and bleed affecting the target. Does that include effects caused via trinkets and/or equipment effects?

[snow kindle]

If you aren’t getting pi isnt sub better

[glass raptor]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[storm forum]

Only stuff in our spell book should affect it. So no, trinkets/enchants/etc don't affect them.

[midnight mist]

sin take pi which steals damage from hunters checkmate

[royal lantern]

hunter are a wasted pi target

they die anyway

and complain about no deffensives

while having enough but just not use them

[storm forum]

Hunters feel weirdly tanky this expac. They're not tanky tanky, but they're definitely not as bad as the other mail wearers imo.

[keen spruce]

They have a billion hp

which carries pretty gud

but otherwise still kinda bleh

[arctic socket]

Paladin is tanky af

[storm forum]

Yeah paladins are tanky tanky

[arctic socket]

I’m not used to how squishy rogue is

[clever sparrow]

do i need cold blood for raid fights?

[storm forum]

No

[clever sparrow]

can you link me best talents?

[storm forum]

Assassination rogue does not like cold blood

[spice spire]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[storm forum]

Just go look them up on wowhead

[clever sparrow]

it was op on pvp 😄 thats why i sued it

[spice spire]

🫡

[clever sparrow]

theres lots of talents so idk which one is better

[storm forum]

There's a talent build section

Imo it's all personal preference

Play what looks cool

[clever sparrow]

aha kk

[storm forum]

Sometimes I swap to bonespike even though it's not recommended, just so I have an extra button to press

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/psycho-evil-smile-maniac-creepy-smile-gif-12711767

you rn

[spice spire]

He just like me fr

Except I’d never touch disc

[storm forum]

I just wanna feel something

[spice spire]

Bro?

[storm forum]

Sorry I stayed up all night

[keen spruce]

feel this

[arctic socket]

Mans starved of female touch

[spice spire]

I might

[storm forum]

It's true, I am

[rotund oak]

thats amazing,did u wrote that urself or its part of something?

[spice spire]

I can be the one

Dw king

[storm forum]

[spice spire]

[blazing roost]

is spiked counterweight any good now or still bad?

[storm forum]

Idk, anyone know if sims updated yet?

[spice spire]

Still bad

[storm forum]

Like on bloodmallet or something?

Rip

[spice spire]

Yeah they should be in normal

[blazing roost]

rip