assassination

[knotty vapor]

maybe 2-3 yds off

6 feels like it'd miss stuff in a regular pull area

[glacial shuttle]

yeah it just doesn't make sense that if I have a similar radius to the other melee dps I should be getting caustic onto them

to a decent degree I mean

well maybe they're just running more aoe-centric builds

Cause I'm still ST with Caustic

[knotty vapor]

probably

[grim jay]

Well people should at most run cleave

No aoe

[glacial shuttle]

But I still submit that I shouldn't be moved off the boss during CDs

to hit spears

just cause they won't move them closer

[earnest remnant]

its 12 yeah

[knotty vapor]

big

[earnest remnant]

you just stack spears 2x-2x-2x around the boss hitbox

[glacial shuttle]

[earnest remnant]

you can get smacked by 2 spears it wont kill you

3 will tho

[glacial shuttle]

yeah they had preassigned marker locations for them, near the boss but not.. quite close enough

the ones at the middle are actually too far for anyone to cleave off the boss

which.. lol

[earnest remnant]

there yah go

[royal lantern]

@earnest remnant funny raccon man, help me too convince my rl that i wont play fucking sub on tindral

[earnest remnant]

can play w/e on that fight

[plush tusk]

just make sure not standing in the middle behind the boss when spears are incoming xD

[royal lantern]

tell that him

instantly came with BUT LOGS

[earnest remnant]

if you lack root dmg go sub, if you dont + have pi then go assa

[midnight mist]

even outlaw ?

[earnest remnant]

outlaw is not a spec

[midnight mist]

alright

fair

[royal lantern]

and i just say i have 3,4k haste, the fuck you want me on sub, thats trolling

+i hate the "reworked" sub

dont wanna play it

[earnest remnant]

so like it depends on how much root dmg you guys have

[royal lantern]

didnt pull yet, so idk

[midnight mist]

sub kinda cool for shields aswell

in case thats ever an issue

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/sea-of-thieves-throw-up-barf-pirate-gaming-gif-24437592

[earnest remnant]

our shield barely lives 1 shadow dance now

pure sadness

[midnight mist]

ask people to not send cds so you can pad on shields

[earnest remnant]

we lust 1st shield

aint no way

but more boss dmg this way

so its guchi

i just liked doing twice the shield dmg than anybody else

it was fun

[midnight mist]

im doing like

3/4 times the damage

of normal people

kinda cool spec ngl

[earnest remnant]

like im playing sub on the fight, but im pretty much never pressing BP

[plush tusk]

we use lust later on for our healers 😄

[earnest remnant]

over the entire night

[midnight mist]

big

I dont press bp much either

but we dont need yet

appart from specific sets

[earnest remnant]

we dont need at all

until p3

cuz p3 is still a WIP

this is all im looking at boss dmg

[subtle tundra]

I'm getting pi'd tonight 😩

Finally

[midnight mist]

I love looking at boss damage aswell

[royal lantern]

traitor

[midnight mist]

very satysfying

[subtle tundra]

Not at my request

We need more boss dmg so I have to get it

[midnight mist]

sometimes if I need an ego boost I would check shield damage

[midnight mist]

better for bms now tho

any bmers in the chat

[subtle tundra]

Well depends on their cds aswell

[dark token]

Don't think it's better for BM on single target

[subtle tundra]

If they use them for root dmg or st

And bms are usually root killers

[earnest remnant]

Highest one I had before we lusted it was 27mil

[midnight mist]

idk sims better for bms now

I think they fixed some pet bug

[midnight mist]

[royal lantern]

and now look at the average bm player

no way they do more dmg

busy dying somewhere 80yards away from the group

[midnight mist]

I read this chat sometimes tryan

the average sin player

[dark token]

Does it

[midnight mist]

is uh

!sims

[prisma monolith]

Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html

[royal lantern]

the average everything is

like, no matter what

[earnest remnant]

I get more as assa than that sheet

[dark token]

Link ur sim sir

[dark token]

Ngl I don't really trust bloodmallet

Those profiles some specs are updated some are not

[earnest remnant]

Like a week ago we did pi sims and it was 12.9

[dark token]

Can be really scuffed

[dark token]

Ah did you use this sheet as template and sim your raid?

[midnight mist]

well ok but

number higher

[earnest remnant]

No

[midnight mist]

so its more up to date

than ulria sheet

at least for bms

[earnest remnant]

We used our own character to see what was best

[midnight mist]

bloodmallet auto resim things every so often so like

profiles can get out of dates but not sims themselves

[rotund oak]

hahahaahhaaha

[midnight mist]

the sheet guy will have to rerun his sims

[knotty vapor]

is envenomous explosion considered poison damage for the sake of mastery?

[dark token]

You are also playing without branch right?

And 2x sophic

Slightly different than the default profile

[earnest remnant]

well i play what sims the best for me

so

[royal lantern]

but yeha ok

assa time for tswift

that smoldy suffering as sub was enough

worst 2hours in this month

[earnest remnant]

thats the latest one i did

had to dig it out from the guild disc

[dark token]

You are just ticking the PI box in raidbots buffs yeah

Just double checking

[earnest remnant]

yep

ive done both custom inputs

and that

same results

[feral mason]

I mean assa and bm both updated recently so its at least somewhat accurate

[dark token]

I'm also assa because I prefer the gameplay and both seem fine

A lot of guilds ran 1xassa 1x sub

If I lose PI tho I might consider sub

[feral mason]

whats the value of sub on that fight? Bursting shields?

only on smoldy still

[near valley]

Bursting when u need it I'd reckon

[earnest remnant]

ST dmg, root dmg, shield dmg

it just does everything

[dark token]

I'm also curious on your gear which is making ashes sim so close, mind linking a sim

[feral mason]

Root damage just from SecTec then or what

[dark token]

I kinda wanna get rid of my branch

But it's simming quite high for me

[feral mason]

Because i feel like powder kinda meh

[near valley]

Black powder doing damage is a myth

[feral mason]

Branch sims higher than it’ll perform most likely

since 116 is hard to achieve consistently

[dark token]

I can do it

Even on tindral

It's just annoying

[near valley]

Indeed

Minigaming in my raids

[midnight mist]

fuck branch

I gave up so quickly on branch

[dark token]

Also I need to get a mythic ashes

Zzz

[near valley]

Ashes is my friend now

[midnight mist]

im just playing ashes instead doesnt matter the loss

[earnest remnant]

thats me only AoE'ing one set

[dark token]

Last one went to Aug

[near valley]

When I get it ofc

[dark token]

Is ashes even good for aug

[near valley]

Probably

[hard plaza]

anyone got a WA to show when you're not in AA range?

[near valley]

You snapshot ur shit with it basically

Ebon might fuck me

[hard plaza]

thinking of putting a big red transparent box over my other frames 😂

[near valley]

Took me a while to remember

U lose haste but Aug is not that fussed d about haste like that iirc

[earnest remnant]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rqBwAuhkgLyRi6y16kKzdW this does have corrupting at 90% cuz i was doing some testing, but its just a quick sim

[feral mason]

Are the 250k numbers achievable at all

Or i guess it was 240 for assa

[earnest remnant]

you mean sim numbers?

[feral mason]

Like 240k sims yeah

[earnest remnant]

ofc they are

if they werent achievable, it wouldnt be in sims either

[feral mason]

6 ilvls give that much deeps? Or is that helm enchant bigger than im thinking

[earnest remnant]

helm enchant is like 5k

ish

[feral mason]

damn

[dark token]

Hmm you made a haste mast ring over vers mast

Or do you recraft em every time you play sub vs sin

[earnest remnant]

well i havent played assa for a good bit

i just keep sim stuff up to date

[royal lantern]

holy, thats big

[earnest remnant]

(cuz i dont have a life)

[feral mason]

only reason i still enjoy playing assa is to destroy abominations in everbloom

and cant be bothered to switch gear so i play it in raid too

idk man something about that mob

[royal lantern]

best feeling

[feral mason]

Annihilating it just feels so good

[royal lantern]

fuck that aoe dot

[fierce marsh]

How do we sooth with rogue`?

[royal lantern]

shiv

[near valley]

Or take an evoker

[fierce marsh]

Just Shiv on the target?

[near valley]

Yes

[feral mason]

just bring aug if raging actually causes issues

shivving is dps loss

[near valley]

If ur a sin enjoyer ofc

[royal lantern]

when does raging do something

[feral mason]

other specs too fr

Not taking that gcd loss

[near valley]

True and real

[royal python]

Is the second nick of time chance independent of getting the first

[near valley]

No

They are independent of each other

[austere fulcrum]

how do we get helm encha ?

[normal mist]

Quest from raid, we should finish it next reset

[royal python]

What's the chance

[near valley]

Get a quest from someone outside raid

Kill raid bosses

Get it week 5

Profit

[misty holly]

Is it The Power of Dreams quest?

[idle acorn]

Quest to kill raid bosses, we should have it next week

if you missed out it has the same catch up system as Sparks do

[normal mist]

You have to collect boss quest items and 0/50 of some items

[near valley]

No clue but it can take you 2 runs or 50 runs

[idle acorn]

so you can get them by just doing content

[austere fulcrum]

yea that is how i knew it, i only need 10 echo

[near valley]

Just how rng is

[austere fulcrum]

i thought someone already had it

[near valley]

Nah

[normal mist]

Nah

Everyone that has been doing the raid is 40/50 rn

[feral mason]

I have 38 and am not getting any more

9/9 each week

Already checked mail

[normal mist]

Didn't you receive mail?

Hm...

Mail Blizzard

[feral mason]

average wait time for ticket incident

[idle acorn]

Yea it seems to be buggy for some reason. Some guildies of mine have the same issue

[near valley]

Either that or u missed a boss u didn't realise

But likely blizz issue

[feral mason]

It would be in mail in that case

They just goobing

[idle acorn]

but as i said there is a catch up system to it you will get it next week regardless

[royal python]

It should get updated next week, I had same issue

[feral mason]

Have been behind by 2 since week 2

So i doubt it

[near valley]

Just get good then scrub

[feral mason]

Krill issue

https://tenor.com/view/krill-goodbye-krill-goodbye-krill-world-suicide-lober-gif-26900795

[near valley]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-one-in-a-krillion-gif-12148107203104299362

[feral mason]

None of these gifs even have a krill in it

[austere fulcrum]

dude this is sad

[feral mason]

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

[arctic socket]

Rogue discord really like shrimps

[ripe palm]

During our 2nd dance+kings blood window, should we pop dance at the last 6 seconds of kb? So we can snapshot our bleeds with stealth buff?

[misty holly]

You should dance before KB so you snapshot the 10% bonus damage

At the end you can vanish for the +30% crit chance on the final tick.

[plush tusk]

you have vanish for last 3 sec

[royal lantern]

dont vanish there

just crit anyway

[ripe palm]

Ah yeah, but vanish will be on CD for that moment right

[royal lantern]

[normal mist]

Vanish every 2 mins

[ripe palm]

As you use it on opener window and then every 2min

[plush tusk]

ah nvm you#re talking about the small window

forget what i said xD

[ripe palm]

Yeah 😂

[normal mist]

Shadow dance every minute

That's it

[misty holly]

ahh yes it will be. Shadow Dance doesn't activate the crit chance though, so better to snapshot the 10% by dancing before you cast it.

[hard plaza]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[ripe palm]

Awesome, thanks!

[normal mist]

Also always save shivs for shadow dances

[plain onyx]

A quick question. Has anyone ever tried ExitLag? Does it really work or it's just a hoax? Honest answers please. And sorry for asking this in the wrong channel.

[royal lantern]

what is exitlag lol

[plain onyx]

Nevermind then lol

[feral mason]

Some supposed ping reduction app

[odd heath]

It works

[limber lion]

Def works especially if you play on a server or a game that has very high ping. Doesn't do much if your ping is below 100 already

[odd heath]

It fixes most route problems on 100+ ping

[plain onyx]

I live in the Middle East, exactly in Lebanon. My ping is around ~120, so I guess I'll give it a try. Thanks 🫡

[royal python]

At what haste rating do we get energy sustain with two bleeds, that we get with the 4 bleed deathmark period

[arctic socket]

How many minutes does the boss fight need to be for brand to pull ahead of pips for single target

5-6m?

[royal lantern]

idk, 80% probs?

assa is supposed too run low on energy

thats like

the idea behind it

[royal python]

So with accelerating sands+ alacrity, what's the gear rating required for haste required for 80%

[misty holly]

So in a raid with enough priests have them chain PI on you for permanent haste

[royal python]

I don't get pi in raid

[arctic socket]

Why not

[royal python]

Goes to unholy dk

[misty holly]

8 priests should be enough for permanent PI uptime. Make it so raid leader.

[royal python]

N hunter

[arctic socket]

Hunter???

Huh

[royal lantern]

mate, you realise thats supposed too be like "you dont reach it, you are not supposed too reach it, assa has energy starvation by desing"

right?

[royal python]

That's an assumption isn't it, has anyone tried hitting huge amounts of haste

[royal lantern]

@balmy condor heeeeeelp

[quiet oar]

I mean Do you starved during bl?

If not

Thsts the amount

[misty holly]

I can't believe that in this, our moment of need, Whispyr is asleep.

[quiet oar]

[royal python]

No starve during bl

[royal lantern]

i hate reddit so much

telling somebody that wowanalyzer is not really updated for assassination since 10.2, should be avoided right now if you want too optimize

and getting the ussual bigbrain replies

[lavish wing]

get so much haste that ur dots become a blurr

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[royal lantern]

that was called BfA corruptions

[arctic socket]

We don’t speak of bfa corruptions

[quiet oar]

Show the response

Need something to laugh at

[arctic socket]

When blues, if they had the blood bleed would be better then purples

[misty holly]

I gotta say, being a PI target sucks. I feel like I can't properly analyze how good/bad I am anymore by looking at log results. I have like a lot of grey and green ilevel parses this tier and Im not sure if it's because I'm botching my Kingsbane or if it's because the raid has no evokers and Im not getting PI.

[atomic swallow]

Beam go brrrrr

[arctic socket]

I play in a raid team without a evoker pi / windfury totem and I parse blue / purple at 474 ilvl

[royal lantern]

🙂

🙂

externals are fun 🙂

so much fun 🙂

[plush tusk]

delete pi, delete aug evokers...change my mind 🙂

[arctic socket]

I pugged a heroic run with a group that had externals and buffs, it felt so so nice

[arctic socket]

Enchance shamans get a pass?

[plush tusk]

ye

they're fine

[royal lantern]

nah, just make WFT class wide and not spec bound and thats it

like

[misty holly]

There should be a windfury hunter pet. Like the wind serpants or something.

[royal lantern]

all 3 specs wft and its fine

[misty holly]

Having only 1 class/spec in the game that can cover a buff is eh

[balmy condor]

???????????

[lavish wing]

oh no

[arctic socket]

Lmao

[plush tusk]

i really don't know why we don#t have scrolls anymore (like in...bfa?)

[royal lantern]

[balmy condor]

wtf did I just read

we want to know the haste on gear needed to not starve?

[royal lantern]

the good old "how much haste until endless energy" again

[plush tusk]

hey whispyr what stats are we aiming for?!

[royal lantern]

yes

[misty holly]

yay whispyr is here to review our notes. We determined that if you can get 8 priests in the raid to cast rolling PI on you, then that solves the energy starvation problem.

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

I don't think it would

[arctic socket]

I mean I think it would

With thistle tea etc

[balmy condor]

20% ain't enough in my head

[whole mason]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[balmy condor]

but I can go check at what point it would be

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/shutup-gif-26486382

[sharp viper]

does someone have a working shadowmeld+stealth macro?

[spice spire]

Papa needs his coffee before he reads this cooking

[whole mason]

does anyone have the KB total damage wa?

[brazen zodiac]

good morning cx

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/wiggle-lizard-bearded-dragon-audio-gif-3549321

[misty holly]

doesnt work on bosses, might work in M+ trash to just macro the abilities together.

[hard plaza]

Dont have a log unfortunately, but does this DMG breakdown look roughly right? (WC 18)

[balmy condor]

apm is still going up at 20k gear haste, I must go deeper

[hard plaza]

(running arterial buld)

[royal lantern]

*faster

you must go faster

[arctic socket]

Your kb looks low

[balmy condor]

disaster, it's still waiting at 25k

[sharp viper]

yeah, i just want it for m+, pvp and openworld content
/use Shadowmeld
/use !Stealth
sadly also breaks stealth

[sharp viper]

no spatter?

[ancient rain]

Sim says to press Ashes on <=11s left on kingsbane, but top logs press it with kingsbane (probably a macro). which is better?

[sharp viper]

https://wago.io/PFTo3o6Ug

[hard plaza]

yeah i thought as much, im quite shit with KB

[arctic socket]

So the new tech is to get haste on All of our gear pieces? Then run a raid with 10 priests?

Use haste food / runes

[balmy condor]

bout the same, sims are slightly better

[hard plaza]

that was under my trinket...

[misty holly]

It's a good thing you showed up for this. I was about to demand our raid lead recruit 7 more priests.

[arctic socket]

Get all of the PI

[sharp viper]

well, big mistake, it's huge amounts of damage with KB, just need to press one mutilate every 10s

[balmy condor]

aight we'll call it 26k to be perma capped

[brazen zodiac]

lol

[royal lantern]

@royal python your answer

casual 26k haste

[balmy condor]

he did ask for lust as well

give me a second on that

[hard plaza]

sure, need some time on the dummies i think 😄

[balmy condor]

damn aight well no waiting required at bis during lust

because it's a 40 second fight

and it has 3 teas

and it's gonna use them

so

doomed

I ain't changing the APL to account for something this fucking stupid

but with the gear haste it's sitting at 104%

so we'll just round down a little

call it a crisp 100%

and you will have energy forever

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/wtfcat-cat-wtf-erm-gif-25004675

[plain moon]

Is it worth scrolling up to figure out wtf is going on?

[spice spire]

No

[plush tusk]

noted, farming haste gear now

[misty holly]

Hmm how much infaltion we getting in season 4? Will this number be doable in fated?

[balmy condor]

some guy asked what haste value you would need to not starve energy

and the answer is

stupid high

[plain moon]

Ty

[balmy condor]

I wonder just for pure morbid curiosity

what the stat weights would look like

on the 26k sim

[sharp viper]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-goldblum-jurassic-park-jurassic-scientist-your-scientists-gif-11921883

[grim jay]

Dang Whispyr saying the forbidden words

[fallen forge]

did someone say

[grim jay]

Screenshot it while its hot

[balmy condor]

I just wanna see

[fallen forge]

stat weights

[balmy condor]

how crazy it skews

cause I have no idea

[sharp viper]

whispyr instead of sleeping

[fallen forge]

also whispyr i burned cheese onto my pan bc i tried to make a reversed grilled cheese like u suggested

went horribly wrong

never listening to a food idea from u again

[brazen zodiac]

what kind of pan did u use

[plain moon]

So this means I should adjust my PAWN addon to favor haste now

[sharp viper]

what about inverse grilled cheese next?

[grim jay]

What did you expect from a murican

[balmy condor]

that was the suggestion

[hardy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

Haste to 100%

[balmy condor]

instead of

Bread
cheese + mayo
Bread

you instead do

Cheese + mayo
bread
Cheese + mayo

[fallen forge]

ok but how do you prevent the cheese and mayo from melting and burning

[balmy condor]

very cool

[fallen forge]

before the bread is toasted

[sharp viper]

he probably didn't use enough mayo and cheese

[balmy condor]

haste equal to offhand weapon dps

that's a banger

[hardy dagger]

[sharp viper]

pin it and don't bother explaining all this insanity

[plain moon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-studying-gif-27407442

Adjusting my pawn string now tyty

[grim jay]

Guess you wanna see the world burn

[hardy dagger]

Come get your new statweights att whispyrsimcorp!

[balmy condor]

I love how raidbots still has stat weight sims available even though it warns you in big letters in 3 different places that it's a bad idea

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

it's got a fucking foot note

right under the stats

and then a banner

and then a big fuck you

[sharp viper]

So I should be using pawn?

[balmy condor]

so basically everything except actually just getting rid of it

incredible

[brazen zodiac]

epic

[sharp viper]

pawn base string

[stark kraken]

Why they still have it

[spice spire]

I haven’t used stat weights since bfa

[hardy dagger]

Fuck stats just stack vers get tanky

[spice spire]

And I was wrong for looking at it

[balmy condor]

fun

funny number go haha big

[plain moon]

There’s a tiktok series of a guy making grilled cheese in every way he gets comments. Surely he has the method

[balmy condor]

or the people that want to sim gems, but don't want to take the time to sim gems

and so they "sim" gems

by simming stat weights

and getting the stupidest estimate possible

that they could've come up with themselves

by applying brain force

[fallen forge]

tiktok is banned in my country sadge

[spice spire]

Based actually

[fallen forge]

i'll never get to make the whispyr grilled cheese the right way

[balmy condor]

can I move in with you

[fallen forge]

do u like eating beef by any chance

[balmy condor]

I can go without beef

I enjoy it but wouldn't call it a necessity in my life

[spice spire]

Not what you told me papi

[fallen forge]

damn aight you'll fit right in

i got a spare bedroom but rent is paid in log reviews

[balmy condor]

is it india

[fallen forge]

yes

[balmy condor]

im so worldly

[misty holly]

Do they sell the fake meat beef there?

It's good enough

[balmy condor]

considering I've done no less than a dozen a week since raid launch

I think I'm capable of that

[fallen forge]

i got a poggers grey parse from an igira prog kill

[balmy condor]

caustic damage check

[fallen forge]

and questions to answer to my raid lead like: "why are u not doing the same damage as the other sin rogue"

who just happens to be getting pi and aug

that i do not sadge

[balmy condor]

I mean

[royal lantern]

got a poggers gray parse on prog landor kill cus he parried my opener kingsbane

[balmy condor]

did the other rogue also parse grey

[plain moon]

Okay I found his tech. He also cooks the grilled cheese backwards. So he cooks non cheese side first to get the bread toasted, then he flips it to the cheese side so it cools quickly and melts onto the bread

[fallen forge]

nah he parsed green cause he lived till the end and got an extra dm off

[balmy condor]

I see

[fallen forge]

it was like him and 2 other ppl, i died cause i got heartseeker rip

[balmy condor]

so both rogues are in need of a religious baptism

[fallen forge]

mechanics to be like that sometimes

[fallen forge]

yo thats actually genius

[misty holly]

I've watched the other rogue sit on Igiria and keep pumping while Im trying to help break spears.

Like come on, this isn't fair

[fallen forge]

nah if spears arent in caustic range ur on ur own

[royal lantern]

^

[plain moon]

Step 1 Mayo both sides, step 2 toast bread, step 3 cheese quickly to get it crusted on there

[balmy condor]

What if you combine mayo and cheese in a bowl to create a goop, and then apply goop to the toast

[plain moon]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8aTP58J/

[royal lantern]

thats just some random sweedish food then

[long eagle]

Guys, i've been watching guides for assa rogue but i can't do dmg on m+

[balmy condor]

Cause you can burn the mayo while toasting the bread

[plain moon]

In some of his vids he also pre toast before the Mayo even. Idk which way sims higher tho

[balmy condor]

Need more info

[balmy condor]

Would assume similar output over 5 minutes but the pre toast is easier

[plain moon]

True there’s so many variables

[fallen forge]

took me too long

[fallen forge]

but worth

[plain moon]

How thick is ur bread, how hot is ur pan, what type of cheese

[long eagle]

I have difficulty knowing what type of skill to use in a given situation

[balmy condor]

Sounds like more guide and practice required

[balmy condor]

This is quite good

[spice spire]

Gonna save that one

[balmy condor]

I have another one for you

[fallen forge]

im getting better at paint than i am at sin

[spice spire]

God please let it be nudes

[fallen forge]

[balmy condor]

Would you consider your stat priority to be sandwich > paint > assassination?

[plain moon]

This is how I feel when I put on a fake heavy Italian accent to order my food at the Olive Garden

[fallen forge]

do u include the hand signs

[balmy condor]

[fallen forge]

no its vers > sandwich > paint > assassination > agi

[balmy condor]

Hate that

[fallen forge]

gotta spread some misinformation every once in a while

sandbag sin while we can

[plain moon]

😠🤌 “let me get a gaba goo”

Like that

[fallen forge]

yeah then ur good mr worldwide

[balmy condor]

I’m ngl brotherman this took you a pathetically long time to crank out

[fallen forge]

lmfao

[plain moon]

Unlucky

[fallen forge]

im faster at paint than u are at emojis

[plain moon]

I’m but a sin player (non haste build)

[fallen forge]

i mastered the accelerated paint opener

[plain moon]

I have low apm

[balmy condor]

Shitpost APM actually in the gutter

[plain moon]

Do I get points for being on mobile

[balmy condor]

What if priests had to wave their hands and say an actual prayer to give someone pi

[plain moon]

Like that one guy in shadowlands who played mage with the VR stuff?

[balmy condor]

Oh father who art in heaven blessed be this rogue, infuse your haste into them(for no longer than 15 seconds every two minutes when they demand it from their macro), amen

[ember gyro]

During KB, in that area where you shiv then tea, I legit just do them one global at a time. Should I be trying to sneak in an ability in conjuction with the tea useage?

[fallen forge]

i usually end up using shiv and then mut/envenom + tea depending on how many combo points im at

[balmy condor]

Tea is off the gcd

[ember gyro]

right

[balmy condor]

So should be using a gcd

[ember gyro]

fair, I just struggle at the timing. almost feels like I should have a button for a Tea/Mutilate macro

[fallen forge]

i think it just takes time for the muscle memory to kick in tbh

[plain moon]

It’s not that bad if you tea at 5.5 secs or even just 5sec left instead of perfectly at 6 so no need to stress getting the tea at the exact time

Just as long as you don’t tea at 6.1 or before

[fallen forge]

i would rather have dhs actually play blindfolded

they already act like they do so almost there

[royal lantern]

watching dhs on smoldy

is an adventure

[quiet oar]

Watching dhs in nymue is funny

[strange python]

The fact that my herbalism has no influence on nymue is staggering

[grim jay]

On volcoross if they have the soak

[strange python]

Atleast a 1% crit chance for nature comprehension

[quiet oar]

Oh no

[north bobcat]

What spec is the generally recommended for M+? I see the Arterial and the DTB ones but not sure when to use either one

tyrannical DTB and fort AP?

or smaller pulls/larger pulls?

[strange python]

Im using ap in tyrann and sudden demise in fort, also depending on dungeon

[rocky ruin]

Most m+ builds work that play what you like

[strange python]

Yep

[north bobcat]

Yeah I like them both I don't find them so different apart from using shiv on aoe and not having the extra slow from crippling but just curious if one had better aoe and the other ST, or sustained vs burst or what the differences were

[lime crypt]

Cleave has better st

And has less gcds

[scarlet sable]

so all this talk about accelerated opener

seems like u can just play a different build?

[north bobcat]

Cleave? Arterial you mean?

[normal mist]

There's a 3rd build

Which isn't using CT

Nor SD

You can check it in wowhead

[north bobcat]

Oh I was looking at icyveins

[normal mist]

(sudden demise)

I have no idea about i.v., I only use wowhead :p

[north bobcat]

Oh the bone spike one

no nvm I see it

interesting

[normal mist]

I've been running that one this week and didn't change from it a single time

[sand vector]

can somebody help me with a log of mine im new to assa and dont know how i can improve my dps. I am doing everything like I should but no high dmg log so im confused as to where to improve

[scarlet sable]

which one?

[normal mist]

Cleave

[slim pebble]

So do I keep farming for another nick or just pray I get one from vault

[normal mist]

Both

You got this Foss

I'm also praying for you

[scarlet sable]

Cleave drops tempest for caustic cleave right?

and then u just a prio / ST pumper

i feel like that makes more sense on Tyran atleast

also makes sense to my outlaw brain

no scent of blood or demise

so u still do the same opener in aoe right? double garrote into 2x rupture

yeah def do more ST here in this build

[lime crypt]

No

Arterial is heavy aoe

[lime crypt]

This one

[scarlet sable]

anyone rocking hybrid build?

i dont even have 4P might just keep arterial for now

[north bobcat]

I've been using hybrid for tyrannical

[scarlet sable]

instead of cleave?

[north bobcat]

said on the wowhead page it had some better st so I did that one

[scarlet sable]

hows it feel

[north bobcat]

Haven't played cleave

[scarlet sable]

right

Cleave probably has best ST out of the 3

[north bobcat]

it's nice, you can get some good aoe as well with splatter + caustic bomb

[scarlet sable]

i might rock hybrid seems closer to AP

[north bobcat]

yes very likely

It does have a bit more setup than cleave by the talents

you still want to rupture a a few times and then CT

[sharp viper]

I'm gonna put that into my PI whisper macro

[feral mason]

huh? Hybrid better on st?

[rose valley]

does anyone have an idea why this marco isnt working:

#showtooltip deathmark
/use Thistle Tea
/use deathmark
/use Shiv

It only ever uses the first two abilities, doesnt matter which ones they are,

[scarlet sable]

no Cleave better on ST than hybrid

[feral mason]

Shiv and dm both on gcd

[sharp viper]

both death mark and shiv are on gcd

[feral mason]

will not work

[north bobcat]

Use / cast

[feral mason]

No

[sharp viper]

bullcrap

[feral mason]

You literally just cant macro shiv and dm together

Thats all

[north bobcat]

oh DM is on the GCD right

[sharp viper]

you can /castsequence though

[rose valley]

huh didnt realize dm is on the gcd, just read the tooltip that dm is instant. havent actually played the spec yet^^

[feral mason]

Macros are only worth using for stuff that casts simultaneously imo

[sharp viper]

dance+kingsbane

[slim pebble]

Gonna make this my macro brb

[feral mason]

Only on st

if you do that on m+ its a lil troll

[sharp viper]

i don't do it at all

just one of the best uses of a macro imo

[feral mason]

Only one i have personally is dm+branch+pi whisper

Outside of that no macros

[rose valley]

@feral mason why is it troll to dance + kingsbane in m+, looking at the wowhead aoe opener guide atm and there it is stated that im supposed to do that.

[feral mason]

you do that for an optimized opener

but when tank chainpulls you want to have something to proc ic

otherwhise you lose out on a lot of garrotes and ruptures

Its fine to do if you know tank won’t chain and you can restealth

But during spiteful weeks or an average pug tank

[rose valley]

kk ty

[feral mason]

i prefer to hold onto it

[strange comet]

guyz ive entered a boe farm mythic, tonight we have raid and pls dont tell me that i cant enter guild run:D

[feral mason]

Did you kill the first boss?

[strange comet]

nop

only adds

[feral mason]

Or join a lockout that killed the first boss?

[strange comet]

yes i did 😦

[feral mason]

[strange comet]

they killed 2 boss

jesuz

[feral mason]

Have fun on the bench bud

[arctic socket]

My boy benched his self

[strange comet]

can i enter or i cant? i mean if i enter and if i cant take item. im ok with it also 😄

[feral mason]

cant enter

[arctic socket]

Wit how it used to work you can’t enter

[strange comet]

ohh noess :((

[arctic socket]

Unless you enter first and they use your lockout

[feral mason]

Have been having some weird lockout bugs

so might be able to try at least

[normal mist]

Unfortunately mythic lockout are weird and dumb, you won't be able to join, you benched yourself

[feral mason]

But 99% chance you cant enter

[strange comet]

ty

[arctic socket]

I mean his group could choose to skip the two bosses

And use his lockout

But doubt

[feral mason]

ofc they wont

[arctic socket]

First two bosses don’t drop much

[feral mason]

i mean

They’re starting mythic on a monday

I assume they aren’t that far yet

[arctic socket]

Weird Time to start mythic

[feral mason]

BOEs are on a lockout too arent they? Why even run that farm @strange comet

[arctic socket]

He needs gold

Any guilds selling CE yet?

[strange comet]

i just wanted to do soemthing while im working causally untill raid to get some lucky gold 😄 . ive never tried it before

now ive learned it perfectly 😄

after weekly last raid day i guess i have to enter farm boe :p

[feral mason]

yy but like

How many times did you run the same trash?

Because the boes only drop on first kill of big mobs

unless they changed that again

[placid cobalt]

anyone knows if it's possible to dodge thorns from tree boss in WM with evasion?

[strange comet]

raid was cleared 2 boss ive cleaned adds 3 time and nothing dropped 😄

[feral mason]

xd

[frigid pilot]

good morning branch enjoyers

[spice spire]

GM

[frigid pilot]

r u guys picking up the top right and left rbs and delaying the back one or?

just got it last night

[slate crown]

usually I grab front right then front left

and delay the back orb

Most people do both front ones (in whichever order) and delay the behind orb

[wind jungle]

Yeah get right and left one (or left then right, doesn't matter) and just stand still where you pick up the 2nd one and let the 3rd come to you.

Although mechanics can sometimes disrupt that. Just gotta deal with it. Make sure you have all 3 for the end of kingsbane tho

[thorn fjord]

Ash gamer here who dis

[fallen forge]

Yeah I sometimes save cloak just to make sure I don’t mess up orbs

That’s the big brain play

[thorn fjord]

Big brain play is to run ash

[quiet oar]

I play both for Smoldy on Sub

[thorn fjord]

Ash on pull and Branch during Intermission?

[quiet oar]

And catching the Orbs while catching the orbs while dodging the orbs can be pretty hard

[left sundial]

iam doing sprint when i press bark

its bad habbit

[thorn fjord]

I always botch my rotation whenever im trying to do orbs with branch lol

[quiet oar]

I use branch on pull

Its easier

and ashes on Intermission

[thorn fjord]

We should be on smold by thursday this week hopefully

Downed Nym last night

[hard ether]

hey guys im trying to get into assasination, can somebody recommend a good video guide for raid?

[spring locust]

/wa

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[quiet oar]

We did 30% last night

So almsot there

but im not ready to get roasted by T. Swift

[indigo heath]

T Swift is fun. Hoping we get him down Tuesday so we can get roster by fyrak all week.

[unique sorrel]

Yall did Larodar first? How was that compared to Nymue?

[indigo heath]

Larodar is harder imo.

[unique sorrel]

I’ve heard both sides on which is harder

I love Nymue though, it’s such a fun fight imo

[feral mason]

nymue is more skill dependent

larodar planning dependent

we had 0 prep for first raid day of larodar, then prepared whole raidplan and killed it in like 5 pulls

[waxen oyster]

larodar is dependent on your ranged doing mechanics

big ask honestly

[quiet oar]

Larodar Was harder yeah

For us too

[lunar sleet]

Guys, hello, who know how to off effect of sand from that dagger? I have huge laggs from him(

[left sundial]

First rotation in to shiv and envenom is better or envenom before the main rotation

some rogs does that

Garrote-Sdice-Mutilate-Rupture - Mutilate-Envenom or Garrote-Sdice-Mutilate-Rupture-Mutilate-DM-SHİV-SD-KB-ENVENOM

When you do first rotation it says wrong spender usage at logs

[clever sapphire]

whispyrs youtube videos

and check out the ones you find could help you out

[sick eagle]

does rage vs vers phial make a big difference for m+?

[left sundial]

yes

Sim it

[woeful meteor]

there is a visual for the timestrike effect?

[lunar sleet]

ye

when i burst in soo many ads my game just freeze

[waxen oyster]

thats not a nick of time issue

[fresh stag]

Hi, does anyone here use ConRo and know how to get rid of the "Use Sanguine blade" spam ?

[eternal nymph]

Better to ask on their discord, it's linked on the add-on page

[fresh stag]

Thanks mate !

[eternal nymph]

Even better would be to not use it tho 😄

[fresh stag]

I'm still learning >< But later yeah XD

[dark atlas]

hey guys - whats the proper opener for single target fights? I saw guides where they opened with garrote>snd>...>...
and other ones where they opened with garrote>ambush>rupture>mutulate/ambush>snd
What would you recommend?

[woeful meteor]

doubt that's an issue with the dagger and not in general unless the exact same pulls started lagging after you got it

[pseudo furnace]

I'm new to assassination, been learning the rotation and running +10s, and I'm wondering if I should only be using my lethal poisons? Or do I use all 4 poisons? Does having the non-lethal poisons affect the application rate of the lethal ones? Thanks

[lunar sleet]

i have lags only with this dagger

[eternal nymph]

Gar/amb/rup/mut/snd/mut/mut/env is the normal opener
gar into snd and then applying the rupture later is an accelerated opener for fights where you need to get your KB out earlier to align it with stuff etc.

[woeful meteor]

then idk change graphics settings

[eternal nymph]

No it doesn't affect it. If you don't have either atrophic or numbing on you're kinda inting tho.
Crippling you can mostly forget

[woeful meteor]

pointless to have anything above low just dont disable projected textures and particles

[visual stratus]

Do you guys prefer Elusiveness for last boss of AD on tyrannical?

[pseudo furnace]

Ok cool, thank you

[thorn fjord]

Nah we did Nym first.. started Lar yesterday

[lunar sleet]

i disable all settings on zero point's and don't see particles but laggs have xd

[woeful meteor]

then it's some addon or whatever

[rigid snow]

what are the best stats? those are mine

For Raid

[harsh anchor]

Kind of everything

Ask the robot

[regal kiln]

+1500 dps wtf

[spice spire]

Ever green meme

[rigid snow]

what should i ask?

[harsh anchor]

"sim me and make sure number is biggest"

[spice spire]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot

[rigid snow]

stat weights ?

[spice spire]

No

Top gear

[harsh anchor]

No

[midnight mist]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif?width=337&height=600

[spice spire]

Outlaw main in chat?

[midnight mist]

what

since when am i an outlaw main

[rigid snow]

mhmm

[arctic socket]

So how crit do I need for my stat weights

I used pawn

[spice spire]

Above 0

[arctic socket]

And my hekili is messing up my rotation

[spice spire]

Good meme good meme

[arctic socket]

Any idea how to fix?

Also I got this weird dagger with a on use, what does it do?

Pls help

[hollow stone]

should prob bind the dagger to everything, just in case

[harsh anchor]

What is the haste breakpoint where I feel like I'm in BFA again

[arctic socket]

I heard 69%

[spice spire]

I’m so glad whispyr is asleep

[arctic socket]

But that takes pi

[steel stump]

I feel like you could screenshot the last 10 messages, pin it and add "please dont be like this"

[spice spire]

[harsh anchor]

Maybe I should ask my guild to bring in more priests so I have perma PI

[steel stump]

One PI every KB is BIS

I shall poison my rogue mate to make sure it happens

[vestal schooner]

Does the bleeds already get increased in dmg after i pick up the orbs in branch trinket? or i have to Re-apply them again.?

[frosty turret]

Are there any good plater profiles or anything for tracking bleeds in keys and whatnot? Im hitting into wrong targets too often and missing alot of splash damage.

[spice spire]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[spice spire]

It’s dynamic, not static. No need to reapply

[frosty turret]

Thank you good sir, will check it out

[vestal schooner]

awesome

[hard ether]

ty

[blazing karma]

am i loosing nightstalker equity by macroing kingsbane and shadow dance?

[spice spire]

If KB goes first yeah

[steel stump]

just macro dance first

[blazing karma]

cool, yeah i just checked i've got dance first, phew

also, just got the ingara dagger, is there any tech for maxing damage for it?

[woeful meteor]

[blazing karma]

oh, they're not dps incresing buffs, lmao

[harsh anchor]

I recommend the critter buff

[feral mason]

real

[arctic socket]

Yeah critter buff is bis

[dawn anchor]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[earnest remnant]

@royal lantern we got a new pfp

[arctic socket]

Share

[royal lantern]

yoooo

[fallow acorn]

think the demon buff would be worth for the shadow bolts on the last boss in BRH p1 on high tyran?

[lean portal]

nah

[arctic socket]

If you’re doing m+ the mechanical buff is “nice”

[lean portal]

you cloak first one and then it doesnt deal dmg

[arctic socket]

But tbh that dagger is a meme

[fallow acorn]

not the volley

the shadow bolts

https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveWoW/comments/18fpn6p/brh_25_and_above/

790k hits

[hearty fjord]

It's the only Hero track dagger I've gotten so far 😭

[scarlet sable]

just got dreamcarver

[fallow acorn]

and you can't really see who is being targeted

[lean portal]

oh mb

[scarlet sable]

can i macro that into KB?

[arctic socket]

The wep it self is okay, the on use from@it is just kinda eh

Dreamcarver isn’t something you really use a lot

Just kinda pick the buff you like the most and forget about it

[scarlet sable]

well huge ilvl upgrade for me so best i got for now

[arctic socket]

Good wep to use while you farm out Nicholas

[fallen forge]

is it just me or are people hitting the ceiling on keys way earlier into the tier

like ik my skill level and I should absolutely not be +2/3ing 20s in week 3

at least based on previous tiers

[arctic socket]

20s have kinda always been easy certain weeks if you have a group of people that have at least more then 4 brain cells

[fallen forge]

idk maybe ive just gotten better over time ig

cause ive been pugging all of mine lmao

[solar ocean]

pre 4-piece is there any benefit to chaining aside from building muscle memory?

[arctic socket]

How do you not have your 4p yet

[solar night]

could be a new alt. I am 2 weeks into a DK with 0 tier, and nothing really worth catalyzing. Granted, I only put a few hours into it each week, like 4 lower mplus and Raid finder and normal

[arctic socket]

You are guaranteed at least 3 pieces of tier, so I guess he’s been unlucky

[arctic socket]

You will get more dps if you don’t chain pre 4p and focus on pooling / maximizing uptime on sanguine blades

After you get your 4p then you start chaining

[solar ocean]

I started playing again after a ~10 year break last week

so no 4 piece

[solar ocean]

thanks!

[arctic socket]

You can catalyst two pieces, then after reaching 2000io you get a piece of your choice

[solar ocean]

yeah I'm closing in on it, at 1800

I'll have 4 piece tomorrow

[fierce marsh]

I´m struggeling with my M+ talents. What would you prefare in ~+16 Keys. Trash dying so fast and my damage ist below 100k

[blazing karma]

same lol

[arctic socket]

If I’m farming 16-17s in a group with high aoe dps I will spec st with IC

My demon hunter / bm handles trash

[solar ocean]

I've been running bottom left and no crimson. I don't do as much aoe dmg but I handily beat everyone on bosses

[arctic socket]

^

[fierce marsh]

but your dh/bm won´t blame you afterwards because your leaked in dmg 😄

[arctic socket]

You still do over 200-300k+ in aoe pulls

While smashing them in boss dps

[solar ocean]

Whispyr's new pooling video just made the concept click for my dumbass. Time to put in some practice. I've been doing it all wrong

[arctic socket]

If you’re worried about your aoe damage spec into outlaw for anything below a 18

[fierce marsh]

Do i need swords for thsi specc?

[fierce marsh]

What IC means?

[fierce marsh]

I gonna try this out. Thank you

[arctic socket]

The talent that makes garrote / rupture get applied to multiple targets

[sick eagle]

for keys where trash insta dies just go with Arterial and Sudden Demise with Crimson tempest, nothing else makes much sense when you can't get your kb out, or just run full ST and focus on boss damage

[silk bane]

it shouldnt do that much unless u have litearlly 0 vers. I have 31% vers 482 ilvl and it does roughly 60% of my health. some people also lust p1 to get out of it asap. if u have aug, u get extra health too so shouldnt be as bad.

its only an issue if u get hit twice, but thats why u lust and hope the healer can top u before it goes off again

[half panther]

hi guys, i'm really really new to rogue and have really bad gear. using the arterial shock build from wowhead, is it normal to be doing dogshit dps on single target or is it a rotation issue?

[arctic socket]

How do you have a ilvl of 482

How did you bypass the crest cap?

[timid talon]

Just play the game? Get mythic boss loot? Don't need to bypass anything to be 482 right now lol

[arctic socket]

I’m farming out 18s to get hero track gear but I’m at a point where I can’t upgrade anymore of my gear

I haven’t killed any mythic bosses yet though

[dark token]

whats a good way to optimize to spatter dmg in sim

like do a patchwerk sim then go towards mastery/crit gear if close?

[worthy heart]

how do i make a weakaura icon buff glow based on it's time remaining? (yes it's the envenom one)

[dark token]

idk if there is a good sim mode for "6 adds for 5s"

[crimson zephyr]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[worthy heart]

jk i solved it

[dark token]

love having equal stats

[oak tangle]

did warcraft logs reset the parse %ages with the nerf?

[arctic socket]

Bro

How do you have all of those

[fallen forge]

when this happens u play outlaw

[dark token]

just do keys?

[fallen forge]

fellas whats ur ballpark overall dps on galakronds fall 20ish

[dark token]

the necks are annoying too

[fierce marsh]

Do i need a sword for outlaw?

[dark token]

combined rings + necks is like

7m iterations

every sim

[wind saffron]

Is it better to go sub if u dont have pi on assa?

[dark token]

prob

[fallen forge]

jesus is non pi sin that bad

[arctic socket]

I have done so many keys

[dark token]

prob

[arctic socket]

I’m just not lucky with rings / necklaces

Ig

[dark token]

no pi sin makes me wanna kms

[wind saffron]

I've lost like 20k it seems

ANd its terrible

To play

[arctic socket]

If your group doesn’t have externals you’re better to play sub

[fallen forge]

wtf ive been raiding this entire fucking tier as sin sadge

too unskilled to play sub

[wind saffron]

Hunters have overtaken sin in pi value

[fallen forge]

destined for grey parses

[arctic socket]

Like if you’re not in the ebon might group / pi / wf totem

You will do more as sub

[plain moon]

After the nerfs I think it’s prob “better” to always be sub and just give the PI to another class

[arctic socket]

The nerf is 4%

It’s honestly not that noticeable

[plain moon]

But sub was right there with it before

[wind saffron]

Sub without pi is close to assa with pi

so without pi assa is dog compared to sub

[plain moon]

It’s still a play what you prefer angle ofc. It always is

[royal lantern]

on paper yes

in reality they just die 80yards away from the group cus 99% of hunter players cant do shit

[arctic socket]

Hunters really do be struggling with their 2 buttons

[dark token]

not really

spatter is really good on a lot of mythic fights

if it was pure ST sure

[fallen forge]

ye its just sadge cause i get benched sometimes since we only have 3 priests and 2 uhdks and another sin

[royal lantern]

^

like

[dark token]

igira sin > sub regardless of PI

[royal lantern]

spatter is stupid strong

[fallen forge]

me no get buff me benchwarm

[arctic socket]

Splatter is ridiculous damage for some fights

[royal lantern]

people just (once again, like allways) overastimate those extremely minor single diget % differences lol

[arctic socket]

Like when roots come out

[royal lantern]

the only fight where sub is 100% a winner is mythic smoldy, but thats not cus of numbers, but because of how the fight works and cus sub can abuse it HARD

and even there, assa is still strong

[plain moon]

I mean at that point ur getting into raid comp specific things. Some comps may have plenty of aoe dmg and some may not. Like if ur guild is still progging Igira and ur struggles are spears. The play is outlaw over sim and sub

[earnest remnant]

argueably better for Tindral as well

way more versatile dmg

[arctic socket]

Or

Just play what you enjoy the most

[opaque vale]

between assa have tier set and no tier set how different is it?

[royal lantern]

can say that ye, but its way way less extreme then on smoldy tbh

[fallen forge]

does PI raid buff in raidbots work for sin?

[arctic socket]

A good bit

Read the pins

[earnest remnant]

i unfortunately enjoy playing at a high WR so im expected to play whats better for the fight (which im fine with)

[arctic socket]

Well that’s if you’re a ce player

[royal lantern]

i mean

stealthi is not only CE lol

[fallen forge]

stealthi number 1

i am stealthi biggest fan

[royal lantern]

there is a gigantic difference bettwen higher HoF lvl, lower HoF lvl, medium CE and end of tier CE

like

its worlds bettwen that

[dark token]

yes but not outlaw

[earnest remnant]

we can add some cringe labels to it, my guild is Worlds best 3 day non split guild

[royal lantern]

outlaw is no spec

[near valley]

Wtf

[storm forum]

My guild is worlds worst 2 day no split CE guild

[plain moon]

Honestly those are the chad labels tho. No splits and only 3 days