right, cuz its like, if you proc poison, dmg on kb increases right
#assassination
lime crypt
forest oasis
at what point do u hold DM to line up with KB? for example if your DM is up but KB is 40sec cd, is it better to hold it or send it?
royal lantern
how did you end up in that situation in the first place lol
2min and 1min always lines up
forest oasis
just had it during nymue cause of adds
royal lantern
you use kb on the adds lol
forest oasis
yeah i did
had to soak far so couldnt attack i nmeantime
so it was misaligned near the end
(i prob also misplayed which lead to it but yeah)
royal lantern
if you dont miss a kb cast, i would wait
and yeha
like
you are not supposed too leave melee range lol
forest oasis
tell my pugs rdd who refuse to soak
royal lantern
the ranged soaks are for, well, the ranged
forest oasis
royal lantern
oh
royal lantern
yeha pugs, dont expect anything there
lime crypt
also
isnt it impossible to proc tier on 5 CP when you do opener with DM?
like you envenom on 5 cp to get buff and then DM -> shiv -> dance > kb > garrote > envenom (this envenom is not casted in time to proc tier)
or idk if its ping issue
lime crypt
Should have 5 seconds
it starts at 18th second
nvm here its fixed
its either that im lagging and i just cant land first envenom chain with kb, OR that its intended to be like that on 5 CP, as we just want to have the buff, where eenybeeny small gap just doesnt affect anything, cuz the tick isnt happening at that point? @balmy condor sorry for tagging u
lament sequoia
how do you "Chain" Envenoms with 4pc?
tame tangle
its either that im lagging and i just cant land first envenom chain with kb, OR ...
@tame tangle tagging myself to come back to this cuz i have same experience sometimes ha
runic hinge
how do you "Chain" Envenoms with 4pc?
You wait until there’s one second left on the evenom buff and then hit evenom again
lime crypt
like i just wanna know if its possible or if its intended thats it, cuz starting with 5CP envenom into DM>shiv>SD+KB> garrote > envenom just isnt envenoming in time to proc it
runic hinge
I don’t think I have problems proccing it but I’m not home rn to test
kindred crescent
can somone link a pre tier m plus tyrannical build
runic hinge
You can play the same builds with or without tier
lime crypt
ohhhh
i think what is at fault
nevermind i dont
i was thinking that maybe rota was meant for ppl that r running twist the knife, but almost no build runs it
balmy condor
its either that im lagging and i just cant land first envenom chain with kb, OR ...
yeh looks good
whats the issue
lime crypt
whats the issue
that after first envenom, i go into DM>shiv>dance+kb>garrote>envenom = first envenom tends to run out before i apply the one after KB
lime crypt
so i assume it just doesnt matter if i dont proc tier on first 2 envenoms?
balmy condor
it's still in your opener
only way to proc 4 piece would be to force to 6
but that seems pretty troll
lime crypt
so its like, id be happier if i critted and got 6CP on 2 gcds
but if i dont
then its fine
and just run with 5cp
balmy condor
if its at least 5, you're chillin
inner temple
do we know if evoker hooks are still broken / how much of our damage "belongs to them"?
balmy condor
do we know if evoker hooks are still broken / how much of our damage "belongs to...
!aug
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue abilities not being reattributed to Augs in logs:
Blade flurry Shadow Blades Sanguine Blades
Poisoned Edges Sudden Demise Shadow Eviscerate
balmy condor
for us it's just sanguine
balmy condor
yeh nah
you just don't wanna send on 4
cause then you have a gap between the envenoms
with 5 you have like a microsecond gap
which is whatever
fair stratus
!wa
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Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
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Pooling Practice Tool
clever perch
Do you guys always use ur trinket macro'd with Deathmark?
clever perch
gotcha
gentle belfry
Ultra is the minimum particle setting to see lines on smolderon tornados right?
eternal nymph
No
I set particle density to 0 on that fight
And see the lines
Particle density at none improved visibility and performance a lot for me there
kindred crescent
can someone help me with sanguine blades. When should i dip below 50%
eternal nymph
Do you have 4 set?
If yes, you largely ignore sanguine.
Keeping envenom chains going for 4set value is bigger than focusing purely on staying above 50%
kindred crescent
i have no tier
rapid vault
@tall atlas
tall atlas
Ty x
rapid vault
Ty x
Also, this is probably highly contested but, assassination or subtlety? For me as a noob
tall atlas
Also, this is probably highly contested but, assassination or subtlety? For me a...
To play?
rapid vault
yeah
tall atlas
Assa is easier to play
runic hinge
Asking in the assa channel 
tall atlas
But sub is my fave out of the three.
rapid vault
Asking in the assa channel <:lol:1124910371879260262>
well i didnt want to ask in the outlaw channel lol
runic hinge
silk bane
^understandable
tall atlas
Sub is more forgiving that assa if you fuck assa up you’re screwed
silk bane
actually wait no thats based as fuck
go to outlaw channel and be like hey im new to rogue, what should i play sin or sub
runic hinge
well i didnt want to ask in the outlaw channel lol
Yeah. No one wants to go in there
silk bane
lemme get my popcorn brb
tall atlas
But assa does more damage so it’s just your call
lament sequoia
witherbark yes
Your videos helped me so much
tall atlas
Rogue is really just about learning the rules
silk bane
Sub is more forgiving that assa if you fuck assa up you’re screwed
theyre both equally punishing. I kinda think subs a bit worse actually (theres more things u can fuck up)
tall atlas
I dunno you just hit dance so one evis then sec tech
balmy condor
Your videos helped me so much
I'm glad to hear it! I hope to make more, when they decide to make a day longer than 24 hours
would be sick
silk bane
I dunno you just hit dance so one evis then sec tech
seems like you havent played it since rework then! its very different
silk bane
nope. its my favorite spec in the game
summer light
bleak eagle
i think so
trail vortex
so we're not using crimson tempest that much anymore in AoE? Just starting out as an assas rogue been a while
plain onyx
Does Hybrid build lean a little bit to ST ?
static glacier
so we're not using crimson tempest that much anymore in AoE? Just starting out a...
You use it if you can hit 4 or more targets with it. You never spam it
Think of it as an aoe dot
trail vortex
ohhhh
thanks. I was confused. I thought it was fan of knives fan of knives into crimson temptest repeat
so just DoT em up once with CT and move on
static glacier
Yes and it’s generally lower prio to CT than to spread your first few ruptures in IC
Only exception imo is short lived mass aoe, stuff like the slimes with dragons in galakronds fall
That’s the only situation I CT quite early
night summit
just got embersoul do i macro it on DM?
balmy condor
no
torn atlas
just got embersoul do i macro it on DM?
You wanna wait a second or two into kingsbane before you press it. DM would be far too early.
pine dew
!fuu
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night summit
You wanna wait a second or two into kingsbane before you press it. DM would be f...
thanks!
latent onyx
Im too lazy for that, I might just macro with my dance / KB instead
but good to know not to macro on DM thanks
torn atlas
Ideally I think the correct number is 3 seconds? But no one's gonna come and arrest you for playing what you want.
As long as you're happy to have below optimal results
torn atlas
Honestly I wouldn't have the slightest clue on the exact numbers. Mostly just added so no one reads that, and then come asking in a days time why their macro'd KB+Ashes doesn't do as much as other rogues.
latent onyx
haha fair point
I will probably play around with it
only got my ashes last night so havent really played much with it
torn atlas
People sacrifice dps to take acro, or sacrifice dps for saving keybinds by macroing. It's not gonna be the most optimal way to play but if it's what works for you and is within margin of error 🤷♂️
latent onyx
yip, if going "optimal" means you make more mistakes or play worse, its not optimal anymore
torn atlas
But macroing to DM is wrong because you lose an extra tick or two of the agi amp from ashes when KB will be hitting its peak
arctic hare
any timeframe for when wowanalyzer will be updated for sin? or will it just happen when it happens?
shell osprey
any bored people wanna look at my logs and tell me what i could be doing better? i feel like im doing kinda mediocre this whole raid tier since the changes :/
runic hinge
Okay so I did my first m+ this week on my rogue today and my damage was so bad and I was like wtf is going on, and I realized on the way to last boss it was an OCE group 
slim pebble
Soon
wild beacon
Gamblers fallacy
full solstice
im having a hard time keeping up with bleeds splatter chains etc on aoe. anyone got any tips auras anything yall recommend to help out?
on dummies i can hit 400-500k but it doesnt translate for shit in m+
wild beacon
Full setup on m+packs can take a few globals, this week they might just be dying too fast
pine dew
Is it correct to envenom in aoe after cds? When on big packs?
lean portal
yes especially on spatter target
frigid echo
Is our tier set when we become good, I am@fucking trash at 440 ilvl
gaunt isle
if you wanted to take acro, how big would the dps loss be in m+? what would be the point to remove between tea and strata?
torn atlas
Okay so I did my first m+ this week on my rogue today and my damage was so bad a...
Can I use this excuse even if I live OCE?
solemn mason
if you wanted to take acro, how big would the dps loss be in m+? what would be t...
in no situation would you ever do that
earnest remnant
I mean how much % DPS loss are we talking
this was last i checked, but i could have fucked it up
fierce sigil
this was last i checked, but i could have fucked it up
is this ST? or DS?
earnest remnant
st
fierce sigil
what... what ilvl u have?^^ and im on 2.7k haste.. is it too low?
and my trinkets are shitty 😄
but i only sim 175k ST with 472... seems very low
bold temple
just got my 2nd nick of time and branch back to back...
branch seems really annoying to use i don't like it. been practicing on dummy with a WA but still doesn't feel good
earnest remnant
what... what ilvl u have?^^ and im on 2.7k haste.. is it too low?
483.5
think that profile has like 3.6k haste (not that it matters)
balmy condor
this was last i checked, but i could have fucked it up
earnest remnant
balmy condor
your character is cringe
earnest remnant
character fits the owner then
balmy condor
before nerfs it was noticabely worse on bis
like almost 1k
this is killer though
earnest remnant
earnest remnant
bruh i have so much
balmy condor
yeah
that'll happen
when you don't take the trinket that gives you 50% mastery
during cds
earnest remnant
when i do gear upgrade sims
i do sim with branch and without
but im gearing for sub atm
balmy condor
I'm at 50% base and 3 stack branch legit just gets me to almost 98%
earnest remnant
so i have a fuckload of mastery
balmy condor
even through the insane dr
earnest remnant
think i have 65% mastery as assa
but right now my crafted pieces are all vers/mast for sub for tindral
drifting cloud
youre prolly just staying sub for fyrakk?
drifting cloud
do you have too many pis to hand out 😛
strange python
What do you think about ER buff? No dance build can be better than regular build after the changes?
strange python
Echoing Reprimand changes to Physical damage (was Arcane) and damage increased by 43% to account for armor.
ancient rain
Doesn't look like a buff
strange python
I thought it is
balmy condor
to account for armor.
earnest remnant
# to account for armor.
balmy condor
<:Pepelaugh:585590198574907413>
how many sims did this take you do not lie to me
earnest remnant
1
balmy condor
sure
earnest remnant
for 1 reason only
i had the edit i did last time saved
sublime text goated
for keeping it for me
balmy condor
keen spruce
that's during stick dw
torn atlas
Now what is it when you use branch ?
torn atlas
I heard Shmeeps hit 200% once
keen spruce
balmy condor
balmy tide
hey guys. I'm pretty new and have some questions is there anyone who can help me ?
keen spruce
hey guys. I'm pretty new and have some questions is there anyone who can help me...
i'd check the wowhead guide and FAQs first to make sure they weren't already answered. but otherwise ask away
quiet oar
I mean its random
balmy condor
I've ever heard
keen spruce
I've ever heard
yes chef
quiet oar
the dumbest shit
Nah no way
limpid lava
HELLO guys what build should i play for council
limpid lava
ST spatter?
quiet oar
losing all of our haste and crit
I mean its an old Trinket, if it was made now it would also use vers for it
balmy tide
i'd check the wowhead guide and FAQs first to make sure they weren't already ans...
I checked them mine is more newbie questions
keen spruce
HELLO guys what build should i play for council
this if you tanks do their job
otherwise yeah probably just spatter
limpid lava
i pug HC so i guess go for spatter
quiet oar
this if you tanks do their job
So ill not change a Thing got it
willow barn
someone has a idea how to change the healthbar collor with plater if the target has caustic spatter on it?
white osprey
!wa
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Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
sullen ember
does anyone have a kingsbane + dance macro?
crisp pine
That sounds like sorcery ngl
flint star
Does caustic spatter work with ambush?
keen spruce
Does caustic spatter work with ambush?
ye
flint star
So I don't need separate ambush hotkey, yay
leaden sundial
Do I ever play around sanguine blades ? Like ever ? (Except waiting some time for Envenom of course)
surreal citrus
not after you get 4pc no
misty holly
What do you think about ER buff? No dance build can be better than regular build...
As long as you keep Expose Armor up, that should translate to a buff.
royal lantern
What do you think about ER buff? No dance build can be better than regular build...
there is no ER buff mate
its a change cus they make the covenant abilitys into abilitys that fit the class visually more
and "hit with arcane dmg" doesnt really fit rogue much
surreal citrus
I miss oneshotting people with ER
subtle tundra
augs have half the iq of a random player
earnest remnant
what about an aug that used to be a boomy?
subtle tundra
im not allowed to say those words
rotund mauve
Is it possible to run a sim just to see which item to craft and put decay embellishment on
ancient rain
Every log is using sandglass now, did i miss anything?
kindred breach
guys anyone tested playing double on use trinket ? Thinking it could be big lining it with all our KB
Like branch and ashe
earnest remnant
it bad
kindred breach
ok thank you
royal lantern
386 was max crafted ilvl right?
royal lantern
augs have half the iq of a random player
mate
less
like
it has too be part of playing augmenation that you just use shit at random times
worthy bear
how much worse are slimy boots vs toxic thorns boots in m+?
worthy bear
i never really know how to sim m+. is dungeon slice good? or do you do 5 bosses 1 min or anything?
limber lion
Unless you do +30's, it doesn't matter and you won't be able to tell the difference.
worthy bear
thanks, thats what i wanted to hear
grim jay
i never really know how to sim m+. is dungeon slice good? or do you do 5 bosses ...
DS is fine for gearing, just dont take the numbers for anything
you can do ST sims and aoe sims aswell and try to take the middleground with leaning more towards what you wanna focus on more
kind hare
When I have an Aug evoker in m+ sometimes I get 320k dps overall and sometimes 250k....is just me playing bad or the aug not being good? How can I check that?
I mean overall dps
dark token
what about an aug that used to be a boomy?
Would never do keys with this player
royal lantern
thats the most deadly combination ever
sharp glen
hi qq, when talented into Crimson Tempest but in a ST fight, is keeping CT dot up on the target a priority vs say maintaning above 50% energy? thanks
open arrow
So I've been seeing that zero plays with st build even in m+ and still pumps on aoe, does anyone know if that's only because it's tyra that he plays it or if the st build is just better even in m+?
sonic schooner
I'd say it s because they play arround him and kingsbane + caustic is actually enough. Also his thinking is DH does the aoe of 3 classes, so why would he have to lose ST / Prio dmg to also do aoe
strange python
That build is probably actually better in Fort - than it is in Tyran. Because it relies on full KB's on big prio targets.
sonic schooner
If you check routes everytime he has kingsbane they re pulling big with a prio target (he also plays a lot with a PI)
open arrow
ye makes sense, but like in his everbloom vod he uses st build and the man goes up to 1.5m dps
sure it's a big pull
strange python
That's what you get when you're spattering a full DM'd KB into a prio target that can live.
wild lion
So I've been seeing that zero plays with st build even in m+ and still pumps on ...
I dont see him playing full st. He has prio on st but with many aoe talents
strange python
ie. His tank pulls around it...and it works in those cases.
sonic schooner
i found myself doing better with the "ST build" than full aoe build on some things like everbloom. But probably because it s easier to play (to me) and it has that thing of doing big dmg fast. Meanwhile on others build you really have to spread lot of garrots and ruptures (thanx to scent) and crimson tempest etc
open arrow
ye okay when I say "full st" I mean without ct xd
grim jay
ye makes sense, but like in his everbloom vod he uses st build and the man goes ...
its not like you cant get close to that on tindral even
sonic schooner
Caustic + 4p are a loooooootta aoe already i feel
strange python
I mean it is a st build - just with IC and Spatter really
strange python
yeah
open arrow
ye but like would that build hold up even on fortified weeks when packs are living longer?
strange python
That's when it shines
open arrow
really?
sonic schooner
it s weirdly when it shines
open arrow
then why would you ever choose the build with ct?
grim jay
ye but like would that build hold up even on fortified weeks when packs are livi...
the only requirement for it to deal good aoe is the mob living through KB
strange python
If you have a tank/group that isn't always pulling YOU a prio target into a pack.
sonic schooner
sonic schooner
Well i ve something to tell
open arrow
but I feel like most dungs always has a mob that you can use as a prio and will live through a full kb
strange python
CT is just by far the best dmg-per-press there is for 4+ targets so
open arrow
no?
sonic schooner
In dslice, hybrid build is better by +1.4% for me
In ST 5mn, "Zero's build" is better by +17% for me
grim jay
In dslice, hybrid build is better by +1.4% for me
In ST 5mn, "Zero's build" is ...
we call it cleave build
strange python
No way bo, CT is extremely overrated
No one is "over-rating" CT. It's just mathematically superior.
Its not mathematically superior lol
Its mathematically superior in targets that dont do jack shit and have no debuffs or move lol
I mean it is - except under certain conditions (that often don't present themselves frequently enough in the "real world")
Which isnt reality
sonic schooner
You have to take it account than sudden demise is making your bleed deal 10% dmg as well
I miss CT initial hit dmg 😔
grim jay
I miss CT initial hit dmg 😔
thats pretty awkward
doesnt have any place in the current sin
strange python
In tyrannical mobs barely even survive a full cast of CT
Yeah current CT is much better.
sonic schooner
yeayea ikr, it s just feelings
open arrow
but ok so main point is, if you have prio targets that you can nuke down and will live through kb st build is just better
sonic schooner
Also i dont remember when we were spamming CT but that shit was fun to me
open arrow
or "st" build
sonic schooner
The main point is
grim jay
or "st" build
cleave, its just called cleave
sonic schooner
we have like 4 to idk how many builds that do pretty similar and are depending on your gamestyle / route
strange python
In the majority of cases, a practical m+ build is just probably better for mostly all players.
sonic schooner
i'd say
strange python
Right now im playing CT for fortified and cheat death and arterial with elusive for tyra
grim jay
we have like 4 to idk how many builds that do pretty similar and are depending o...
its largely playstyle. couldnt think of any route I'd pick one over the other for the standard builds as in hybrid vs AP
strange python
I think zerocool's build is fun af. I've run it a bunch in like 18's ... it does damage for sure...and the boss damage is insane.
grim jay
I think zerocool's build is fun af. I've run it a bunch in like 18's ... it doe...
its called cleave
strange python
And even different builds in different dungeons
open arrow
nah it's zeros build now
strange python
its called cleave
lol that's fine
royal lantern
@keen spruce you know how you notice instantly that this key will be bricked?
when 1 guy mounts a gladiator mount, they ALWAYS suck so hard its incredible
strange python
Everyone that comes in here to talk about it - calls it that...so it is what it is.
sonic schooner
But dw soon enough Wazo will get his legendary and he ll do routes arround himself and Zero will fall 😔
grim jay
But dw soon enough Wazo will get his legendary and he ll do routes arround himse...
I doubt the legendary will change routes
open arrow
xd but ok I might try it then
strange python
But Zeros build is also built specifically for his group and funnel, they coordinate
grim jay
But Zeros build is also built specifically for his group and funnel, they coordi...
no its not
strange python
xd but ok I might try it then
Definitely try it - it is a lot of fun
Yeah it is lmao
grim jay
because its a cleave build and even on the wowhead guide with its strengths and weaknesses
lmao
strange python
Lol no?
grim jay
lol yes
strange python
Like do you even watch his stream?
open arrow
ye I just feel like I barely use ct on aoe anyway, maybe I'm doing it wrong but feels like I'm pressing it once, then just envenom, then when ct is running out I press ct again xd
strange python
If I was gonna watch anyone's stream, it wouldn't be his lol
grim jay
Like do you even watch his stream?
luckily not, but I stumble upon some that do every now and then
strange python
ye I just feel like I barely use ct on aoe anyway, maybe I'm doing it wrong but ...
That's what you wanna do, assuming there are 4+ targets.
royal lantern
zeros build zeros build zeros buil
bro
its no ct and instead a st talent
thats it
you mf's make it sound like some giga galaxybrain shit
sonic schooner
I had a question about you guys in m+. Did you try the build with no DTB? How does it feel for you? I really tried it like 4 or 5 keys and i disliked it for some reasons
earnest remnant
weird ass argument you guys are having ngl
open arrow
you mf's make it sound like some giga galaxybrain shit
he does have 500 iq
strange python
weird ass argument you guys are having ngl
strange python
People give Zero shit but hes most of time way ahead of peoples dumb arguments like following sims blindly without any actual reality check
open arrow
I mean doesnt zero have the highest keys done as assa atm?
strange python
Some people just do stuff to be different - and then they happen to be right'ish under a set of conditions that normally and practically doesn't exist for most other people.
And then people forgetting the execution part
grim jay
People give Zero shit but hes most of time way ahead of peoples dumb arguments l...
he is often factually trolling
aswell
dark token
Him having no life and an ego doesn't make him a galaxy brain guy
earnest remnant
looking at anything score related week 4 into the season is questionable at best
dark token
I legit do more dam than him in the 25 keys I've tried and I don't have a whole group around me
dark token
And I'm not even playing that well
strange python
He doesnt have build
ebon timber
Hey all, if I have questions about the spec, should I ask it here?
strange python
He builds whatever the group or key is
wild lion
I mean doesnt zero have the highest keys done as assa atm?
Because most people dont pish right now. Most people are stuck on mythic progress and why would you push without bis gear?
dark token
Literally everyone I talk to that has ever interacted with him in person makes fun of him for a reason
open arrow
Because most people dont pish right now. Most people are stuck on mythic progres...
true true
strange python
What regular lol
grim jay
with different strengths and weaknesses
grim jay
What regular lol
viable, approved or whatever you wanna call them
strange python
Going default is just plain dumb
open arrow
damn I really set this place on fire jesus
fallow acorn
sips coffee morning!
grim jay
Thers so many variable effects to be a default
nah you just highly overestimate the difference
strange python
No its going dumb
earnest remnant
damn I really set this place on fire jesus
happens everytime he is mentioned
it is what it is
open arrow
xd
strange python
You go tailored for the encounter
grim jay
royal lantern
People not taking CT
eh, its ok in dungeons without big pulls or where shit dies fast anyway, like you cant really do CT there anyway
but ye that weird af zero worship is......yeeeha, isnt he known in the "higher circles" too just pump endless keys anyway, and has "succes" cus of it? like ofc he is really good, otherwhise he would not do those keys, but there is slightly more to it then just "high r.io = walking god"
dark token
He probably plays well mechanically but has cooked af takes and way too big ego
So I would especially take any builds or rotational advice from him with a grain of salt
open arrow
I mean isnt that everyone that pushes? you just pump keys, wipe, pump until you get a timed run?
like all the players I've seen that pushes high end do that
earnest remnant
So I would especially take any builds or rotational advice from him with a grain...
should only listen to me
reason number 1 am raccoon
reason number 2 read reason number 1
feral mason
Reason 3 ur pettable af
feral mason
i like that
strange python
I mean most of his rio is from plain leadership/grinding, but he knows his shit, specially defensively, and most people, a large portion of time just think offensive plain dps numbers without making any concessions to actually staying alive longer, or movement, etc, shit that doesn appear in sims
Like he runs Embers over bark
royal lantern
- like, didnt people talk about "drop CT for more ST talents? would that work?" builds since day1?
dark token
Pov ur an elden ring boss and stealthi is playing the game https://youtu.be/MYDa0h2dbZA?si=1r9FjvKxzx_1NllQ
feral mason
My st m+ talents are called “zerocool triangle posture”
strange python
He doesnt run embers over bark because it sims higher, but because he has good notion of uptime and boss movement and shit
fallow acorn
lol
strange python
That shit doesnt appear in sims
feral mason
He gotta sit normally man
dark token
Also lol @ running ashes over bark in m+
strange python
He doesnt give a shit about 5k dmg overall over consistncy
fallow acorn
is this guy his press agent or?
earnest remnant
Also lol @ running ashes over bark in m+
im the pioneer of this tech
zero wish he was me
(case in point i had the trinket before him)
get rekt
dark token
M+ is actually the best environment for bark because mastery gains value and ashes lowers haste in between uses and has no primary stat so you do less dmg when it's on cd
strange python
M+ is actually the best environment for bark because mastery gains value and ash...
Yeah, in paper
Not in reality when you have more to think than collecting orbs
dark token
It's not some giga brain galaxy tech boss timing beat the sim uptime consistency strategy lol
strange python
Thats why his high rio lol
fallow acorn
omg
fallow acorn
DELETING BRANCH FOR HIGHER IO I HAVE UNLOCKED R1
earnest remnant
he is high IO cuz he plays m+ for 14 hours a day, and knows how to press 1-2-3
thats literally all there is to it
dark token
There is a reason James asks all the theorycrafters in here gameplay advice on rotations etc
And why pro players have analysts telling em what to build in what scenario
In league etc
strange python
Yesh but if you cant execute
dark token
Usually good players ARENT good theorycrafters actually
strange python
All ur theory is worth 0
earnest remnant
is that a jab at me?
fallow acorn
he is high IO cuz he plays m+ for 14 hours a day, and knows how to press 1-2-3
on paper, you can press 1-2-3 but it takes a megamind to play well but GOD DAMN if I have to 1/1/7 some orbs every 2 minutes
dark token
is that a jab at me?
Nah stealthi excepted
strange python
lol soon as i got ashes i sold my branch to the nearest vendor
earnest remnant
im go cry in a corner now
feral mason
any streamers that cater to fotm gooning are just mid to me man
feral mason
ball minigame is fun stealthi
fallow acorn
gross
earnest remnant
not when im directionally challenged enough to begin with
dark token
also nobody is gonna be able to make me use branch for this shit
Is this a sub sim
earnest remnant
no
strange python
I use branch, but, like, theres some m+ bosses on tyra thst I cry to collect orbs, AD totem boss in phase 2 its just like impossible to collect that shit
earnest remnant
its an assa sim
dark token
Your sin is 228k? 
strange python
ball minigame is fun stealthi
It's fun until you get f'd by some mechanic and you're watching one of your balls float like 18 yards away just knowing you're not gonna get it - left wondering how much dps you're gonna lose, and why you don't just have ashes on.
earnest remnant
its a pi sim lmfao
dark token
Ah
earnest remnant
my sub sim is like 233k
dark token
also nobody is gonna be able to make me use branch for this shit
Is branch really this little gain over mythic ashes for u I'm surprised
subtle tundra
I'm at 216k I think
glad shale
hi guys are assa any hard to play in raid ?
fallow acorn
press branch and avoid the balls completly and still time the key
subtle tundra
No peeAyyy
earnest remnant
i have ALOT
strange python
What ilvl are you already stealthi?
strange python
Jeez
regal kiln
Can i craft the belt if i have a shit belt and good bracers ?
fallow acorn
only if zero says you can
strange python
Im 480 simming 210
earnest remnant
i have 489 mh
subtle tundra
Can i craft the belt if i have a shit belt and good bracers ?
Idk mbappe...
dark token
Did you make a 486 vers mast ring like me
subtle tundra
i have 489 mh
I have 483 non nicholas I'm sad
strange python
only if zero says you can
Who's more annoying - the zero lovers, or the zero haters?
dark token
Or is it 476
earnest remnant
my gear is aite
dark token
On retrospect I probably should have wyrm crafted it
earnest remnant
Who's more annoying - the zero lovers, or the zero haters?
equally annoying ngl
dark token
And aspect upgrade something else
subtle tundra
I'm a zero ignorer
strange python
Just be like me and trust no one
earnest remnant
same varas
strange python
my gear is aite
I thought wafing devotion was he shizzle
subtle tundra
If I want to know anything about assa I consult my friend whispyr and my own experience
earnest remnant
only the OG's know that you used to be cool version of zerocool
dark token
Idk about stealthi but I'm using sophic to multispec better with sub
strange python
I guess it's too late this week to find a full clear H pug huh
dark token
Same reason I crafted vers mastery rings
If you offset it with a lot of haste gear it's fine
subtle tundra
only the OG's know that you used to be cool version of zerocool <:Pepelaugh:6532...
😭 Fucking hate having a real life no time to play keys 12 hours a day 💔💔💔💔💔
earnest remnant
last season my group played like 5-7 hours a week and got to like 3715
subtle tundra
Covid was a blessing
earnest remnant
and some weeks not at all
light latch
Is there a range for caustic spatter and did they change it?
earnest remnant
12yards
subtle tundra
Yea but last season assa was it's worst variant ive ever played
feral mason
Finally got a real premade so don’t have to grind week in week out anymore
earnest remnant
from target
strange python
from target
you playing sin now, or just hanging out here?
light latch
Always been 12yards?
feral mason
Just playing keys for fun rn and rerolling to some meta shit after whatever dumbfuck rework patch comes out
earnest remnant
you playing sin now, or just hanging out here?
i play w/e i have to for prog i dont really care
earnest remnant
sims better for st with my gear
ashen orbit
I am trying to learn the opener, but it's so many cooldown buttons, are there any I can macro together to make it easier for my brain?
strange python
I see
feral mason
I am trying to learn the opener, but it's so many cooldown buttons, are there an...
nah
on st you always use sd and kb together but if you ever plan on doing keys that’ll be a bad habit
earnest remnant
make the infamous cast sequence stealthi opener for Assault strat
ashen orbit
on st you always use sd and kb together but if you ever plan on doing keys that’...
fair enough
earnest remnant
heard it was amazing
strange python
I am trying to learn the opener, but it's so many cooldown buttons, are there an...
Yeah man, divide it into sections, setup > burst > sustain, whyspir video is good on dividing that
ashen orbit
Yeah it's that video im going from
feral mason
There was a log in here earlier today that macro’d vanish and tea to dm
Or yesterday?
Idek
ashen orbit
also afraid to tell my raid leader this, but I have been farming nick of time for 30+ runs with my loot prio as outlaw
just now realized that outlaw cant drop daggers
dark token
Are these good or cringe
feral mason
kinda drippy
crisp pine
Holy fuck
dark token
feral mason
Would wear to prom
earnest remnant
the fuck is prom
feral mason
Bro got some stickbug ankles though
royal lantern
should only listen to me
reason number 1 am raccoon
reason number 2 read reason ...
can confirm
earnest remnant
muricans man
feral mason
Our hs was stupid as fuck
gray crest
prom is the end of year high school dance thing
fallow acorn
made up thing
everything is made up
royal lantern
+25 pug keys are something else
royal lantern
Assa being op is made up
its far from too strong now lol
earnest remnant
yeh
feral mason
ye
strange python
+25 pug keys are something else
Holy shit lol. Whats 2?
strange python
LOL
royal lantern
Holy shit lol. Whats 2?
me with 160k cus holy shit the tank did single pack pulls 
ashen orbit
Isnt it just strong cuz so many bosses have like
feral mason
ashen orbit
20 second burst windows
strange python
me with 160k cus holy shit the tank did single pack pulls <:kekman:1069601603860...
Ahahahah
feral mason
If only the entirety of outlaw channel got convinced to play assa first few weeks
Could’ve sandbagged logs so hard
ashen orbit
can confirm, currently sandbagging them
crisp pine
I also have internal numbers
feral mason
They dont use logs you are right
Definitely been using 3rd party website complaints for some decisions though cant lie
genuinely feels like wowhead complaining by bums about dungeons or other stuff actually has effect
royal lantern
i mean yeha, multiple thousands saying "X kinda sucks? change pls?" has some impact
feral mason
Not even thousands
Tomrus holds all the strings for game balance
The puppet master
shell osprey
Smooth brain question incoming , but does haste still give DoT effects more ticks or faster tick frequency in dragon flight?
I remember this being a thing in the past but don't know if it's changed over the expansions, which I'm sure it has...
gray crest
depends on the dot but yeah most of them are hasted
shell osprey
Ok good to know, makes good sense then why sin still wants a healthy amount
atomic swallow
Hey, what is a dungeon slice sim? is it equivalent to a big add pull that last a couple of minutes?
royal lantern
its equivalent for an entire dungeon run
shell osprey
Also is rupture worth reapplying for snapshotting night stalker buff or would getting an envenom off be better?
I've been choosing to do a 5+ cp rupture at the end of its window but I see it's not suggested in the wowhead guide
neat plank
I do it if there's not much time left on rupture, otherwise just envenom 🙂
sweet dawn
It's technically a dps increase but not worth stressing over I think
feral mason
damn i have to do 220k in a dungeon o.O
Every dungeon is different on its own, add onto that the variance in how a tank might pull and wipes and its quite hard to have one target dps
on black rook hold 220k is alot easier than rise for example
Would just use that number to compare gear setups to eachother, not your ingame dps
limpid quest
Have a question if someone may help advise... I have the bis life bound bindings and when I equip toxic thorn footwraps... its takes all my stamina away minus 29,000 is thier a reason?
limpid quest
I only have two equiped is it becuase I have another in my bags I need to delete it?
says when I hover over that their is only 2 embelishments on
grave meadow
Read the boots again 🙂
subtle tundra
read what the boots do
restive dawn
Have a question if someone may help advise... I have the bis life bound binding...
the toxic thorn shoes take some stamina away as part of their effect
feral mason
Is that red number the negative 29k you are talking about?
limpid quest
stamina in picture I just added
feral mason
Because thats just your actual stamina with the boots effect subtraction
You still have 29k stamina
sweet dawn
The red just means you have a negative
summer sequoia
might be a stupid question, but does it make sense to macro Deathmark and Witherbark's Branch together?
fading wigeon
do we let empowered garrotes fall off completely before refreshing or refresh in pandemic?
austere junco
Hey, someone can let me know where u look for best buil atm in tyra ?
slim pebble
Hey, someone can let me know where u look for best buil atm in tyra ?
Arterial precision
slim pebble
do we let empowered garrotes fall off completely before refreshing or refresh in...
Let it fall off
atomic swallow
Every dungeon is different on its own, add onto that the variance in how a tank ...
Okay okay I understand, it just seems so much for me. I tried to be aggressive with my SD and Vanish to spread my dots in trash pulls, some went quite good and some didn’t
slim pebble
Okay okay I understand, it just seems so much for me. I tried to be aggressive w...
Only vanish if they’re gonna live the duration of the new dots
atomic swallow
It is still a lot to think of, but I did better than last dungeon so a little progress at least
feral mason
No need to do that most of the time
can just apply your dots from original stealth and its enough most of the time
maybe on high fortified keys
atomic swallow
Only vanish if they’re gonna live the duration of the new dots
Oh okay
slim pebble
Otherwise you’re wasting damage and resources
atomic swallow
If rapture runs out do I spread her separately or use envenom instead?
wild condor
Especially if you have a DH in your party then everything dies super quick
slim pebble
If rapture runs out do I spread her separately or use envenom instead?
Try to keep 5 up for your buff buff but I’m not smart enough to answer if it’s worth it over envenom span
fading wigeon
Let it fall off
thank you
wild condor
Got a question, Do we chain envenoms in single target and treat it like a pandemic window, or do we just generate combo point and keep casting it until we have to pool our energy and then do our kingbane window?
sweet dawn
might be a stupid question, but does it make sense to macro Deathmark and Wither...
Yeah this is fine
sweet dawn
Got a question, Do we chain envenoms in single target and treat it like a pandem...
Outside of KB or DM you chain envenoms (build to 4+ and wait for envenom to be in pandemic)
Inside CDs you spend all the time
wild condor
Outside of KB or DM you chain envenoms (build to 4+ and wait for envenom to be i...
Thank you very much
wise whale
is thsi trinket any good in keys?
that trinket is so unbelieveably bad
fervent jasper
rip
wise whale
literally run a ruby whelp shell over it
woven frost
!aug
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue abilities not being reattributed to Augs in logs:
Blade flurry Shadow Blades Sanguine Blades
Poisoned Edges Sudden Demise Shadow Eviscerate
fading wigeon
is thsi trinket any good in keys?
burn it
smoky helm
!dagger
prisma monolithBOT
dusk sun
anyone who has a decent spatter weakaura?
worthy heart
any assa rogues bored to death taht want to do a nm log run for the memes?
onyx cove
are people still doing tempest on single target?
limber lion
are people still doing tempest on single target?
No
dusk sun
are people still doing tempest on single target?
huge no
elfin talon
does it matter which lethal poison you apply first dragon-tempered blades?
deft vault
no
limber lion
No
elfin talon
ok thanks ❤️
lean portal
is it ever worth to craft a ring ? even if i have two good 483 ?
digital stirrup
!log
prisma monolithBOT
Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage
Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/
gentle rover
uneven ferry
Are we supposed to garrote during kingsbane for some reason? Or only if it needs a refresh
quaint hull
the wowhead guide says that you garrote during the shadow dance window of Kingsbane
Wonder who wrote it
uneven ferry
lol okay. I guess that makes sense.
gaunt sigil
That’s right, you garrote after you SD/KB to snapshot Nightstalker
uneven ferry
I just wasn't thinking about nightstalker b/c of the dumb.
gaunt sigil
Yeah he is fucking dumb don’t listen to him
pastel onyx
fervent jasper
Wtf Resto Druid 95k overall dps?
pure sail
late gulch
any one got a wa to track shiv debuff?
slim pebble
Was that hunter asleep at the wheel
runic hinge
Can I use this excuse even if I live OCE?
Definitely
cerulean walrus
Okay so I did my first m+ this week on my rogue today and my damage was so bad a...
Yeah that’s some cope right there
Fight through the ping
runic hinge
Fight through the ping
I still did the most damage
dreamy quail
im sure this was gone over, but i ddint see in threads. for witherbark's branch, we use on CD or do we line it up before he use KB and SD?
thorny pond
im sure this was gone over, but i ddint see in threads. for witherbark's branch,...
With death mark every 2min
jade carbon
!dagger
prisma monolithBOT
abstract jacinth
!wa
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
trail vortex
**Assassination** Weakauras/Plater profiles:
[Whispyr's Afenar Edit](<https://wa...
favorite weakaura pack out of these? best to track procs and stuf?
rugged grail
hey guys, what did u craft this week ?
jade carbon
hey guys, what did u craft this week ?
ring with wellfed 🙂
royal lantern
ring without wellfed
idle radish
favorite weakaura pack out of these? best to track procs and stuf?
whichever you like best!
lyric grail
Pvp boots
sly phoenix
drifting cedar
I crafted belt with flavor pocket
runic terrace
Can I farm the well fed-Mob daily or is it a weekly thing?
devout prism
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
tame tangle
Can I farm the well fed-Mob daily or is it a weekly thing?
flavor pocket?
weekly community feast once per char
runic terrace
No, it Drops from a Mob up on the island
Lutrok or something like that
But I don't know if you can kill it on sight, daily or just weekly...
royal lantern
No, it Drops from a Mob up on the island
there are multip drops sources mate
feast is the main one
1x a week
trail vortex
my caustic spatter damage is so low.... how can I boost that? sim says 9%.. I'm at like 3%...
trail vortex
no i'm using Deadly. I'm just starting out again. Only 434. I guess i have to be MUCH more focused on my main target
I also thought I'd be using crimson tempest a lot more hah
stiff pivot
Yeah you need to have at least deadly and rupture on the target
Need to make sure or you'll do 0 aoe lol
But hey at least you didn't make my mistake with instant poison lol
trail vortex
But hey at least you didn't make my mistake with instant poison lol
lol! I imagine you were super happy once you swapped to the right one tho haha
stiff pivot
Yes.. lmao
inland heath
any body has a WA for poisons missing b4 a key?
runic terrace
feast is the main one
Yeah I know. But nobody does the feast event anymore. So Lutrok it is. There's just no information about the lockout
royal lantern
Yeah I know. But nobody does the feast event anymore. So Lutrok it is. There's j...
?
clever sparrow
whats best low gear raid talent?
royal lantern
you just need too do 5 tasks for your chance lol
runic terrace
Ah, not kill the mob at the end?! Thanks
lean portal
ring without wellfed
is it ever better that one of our bis rings ?
i still dk what to craft
hushed fable
To clear out some confusions about flavour pocket. I've been doing feats each week on 8 toons and ever since 10.1.7 dropped I got 0 from feast [prior to that I was getting them well... sometimes]. And I know that many people have a sam experiance. When it comes to Luthrok prior to 10.2 I was getting one every +/-25 kills [there is no lockout, spawns every 7 minutes, you just have to be one to summon it because it's bonus from "summoners luck"].
south osprey
How on earth are you supposed to use branch its so annoying, those orbs are invisible
You just standing still and waiting for them to come or actually collecting them
royal lantern
oh shit im famous again
earnest remnant
@feral mason this u?
feral mason
yes
earnest remnant
feral mason
im embarrased stop
ember mural
Now kiss
feral mason
dont worry
royal lantern
royal lantern
gotta screenshot the overall afterwards
im playing no CT build man
earnest remnant
oh the zerocool special
keen aurora
!wa
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
royal lantern
eh, for most pugs with 20000DH's its good lmao
south osprey
What's no CT?
void mesa
No Crimson Tempest
south osprey
ah
dapper cradle
Oh I thought it was cock torture
void mesa
Just go more focused on ST because the big AoE pulls get cleared by a DH anyways
south osprey
What do you take instead
void mesa
Points on the left side
I've just been playing the Cleave build personally
Aka Iron Wire over Improved Poisons and IC over Dashing Scoundrel (compared to the raid ST build)
royal lantern
wish
static glacier
Heyho, can someone tell me please what the assa did wrong?
opener wrong, doesn't press shiv at the right time
icy nacelle
opener wrong, doesn't press shiv at the right time
ty very much for the quick answer
something else? i mean this wont be everything right?
plucky canopy
How do you guys feel about sub vs sin for tindral?
Is it now very even or is sin still a bit ahead?
I guess fyrakk seems still more favourable for sin
maiden wave
ty very much for the quick answer
They don't use shiv correctly in general
void mesa
All of the 2nd shivs are off by a lot
maiden wave
^
void mesa
Like a full 15s late
delicate acorn
His opener is wrong
icy nacelle
ahh ok, thats alot
delicate acorn
Very wrong
plucky canopy
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/CqMcghfHdpWDmxnG#fight=33&type=damage-done
Looks like he just uses one of his two on use trinkets, but maybe I didn't saw it
He should be using ashes for his 1min cds
crisp pine
Two on use trinkets 
plucky canopy
Or get a passive trinket
icy nacelle
i hate this on use trinket meta... :p
plucky canopy
You don't play double on use 😂
swift magnet
can someone tell me the pros and cons of Assa vs Sub on Tindral MM?
i'd like to think that sub will do better aoe, and assa do better boss and shield damage but maybe i'm wrong and there is more
icy nacelle
my monk kinda does 😦
static glacier
something else? i mean this wont be everything right?
playing cds wrong is enough to brick a sin log
wild condor
So quick question, I been having problems with aoe as Sin Mainly deciding if I should just sent it or hold it for let’s say a boss coming up, I also seem to be holding it too much and either use it too late or not at all (mainly talking about the kingbane window)
icy nacelle
playing cds wrong is enough to brick a sin log
thats what i thought
thank you very much guys 🙂
plucky canopy
Yep
void mesa
With our burst windows being such a massive part of our dmg, just missing the 2nd shiv can account for a ton of dmg, same for not vanishing
earnest remnant
can someone tell me the pros and cons of Assa vs Sub on Tindral MM?
i'd like to ...
Sub has a more versatile dmg profile for the fight, you can pick and choose when you want the AoE dmg, Assa "IF" you get pi will do more boss dmg overall, sub outclasses assa on shield dmg by a mile
so honestly when it comes to Tindral
void mesa
Also yep, 0 vanish casts
earnest remnant
pick the comfort pick
plucky canopy
I guess I go sub for tindral since we don't have pi for me
static glacier
pick the comfort pick
got it, playing elemental shaman - oh wait i'm benched now
plucky canopy
And I can optimize gear on sub not only for smoldi
Stealthi what are u rocking on your tindral progress?
earnest remnant
im playing sub
sage tangle
hello, i wanted to ask if having /cast stealth macrod in almost all abilites gives me disadvantage in pve? ive only played rogue in pvp and was wondering this
plucky canopy
im playing sub
How was smoldi? I am totally hyped to play sub there, but my pc went dark last Wednesday so need to pray my new pc arrives in time 🙏
plucky canopy
It is the fight I am looking forward to the most of this patch
swift magnet
Sub has a more versatile dmg profile for the fight, you can pick and choose when...
thanks for the detailed answer, I would have thought that Sub having 1m30 Blades would not be too good on shield if they are every 2mins that's why I assumed assa > sub on this, but I guess that if they are still every 2mins assa would surely be a top contender too right?
earnest remnant
you play Shadowdust a bit different on the fight
so you still have all cds for the shields
swift magnet
like you dont vanish once during p1?
feral mason
here u go stealthi
grave meadow
Does Sin beat sub on smoldi fight (no pi)
feral mason
tryan goat
royal lantern
i totally didnt fuck up all my cd's for all fights btw
plucky canopy
Tyran cranking
royal lantern
plucky canopy
Classic
feral mason
dont tell them about the ilvl
royal lantern
entering everbloom endboss with kingsbane on 40sec cd 
clever sapphire
hello, i wanted to ask if having /cast stealth macrod in almost all abilites giv...
Not sure why you would want to do that, but not like getting a restealth can be an issue
feral mason
earnest remnant
like you dont vanish once during p1?
nah you actually vanish twice
but you sit on shadowblades for 1min
and flag twice in p1
feral mason
ty for key though tryan very smooth
swift magnet
ok! thanks for the tips!
royal lantern
if you suffer as sub there
swift magnet
where is that from please?
royal lantern
faq
swift magnet
nice thx I haven't checked it in a while
clever sapphire
Assa channel on top once again, sub guide coming up here 
earnest remnant
tindral and smolderon plays funny for sub
clever sapphire
Im committed to sepsis insteadof bonespike if i ever get to M smoldy
past forum
Sitting on blades for a whole minute sounds painful now that it’s an actual cooldown
earnest remnant
nah assa is fine for tindral
just kinda want PI
or sub will beat you on boss dmg
gaunt moat
Can't find these abilities on my hotbar
gaunt moat
At least i'm the superior rodent
swift magnet
or sub will beat you on boss dmg
yeah, it'll come down to comp so i'll see, I have other sub questions now that I think about it but i'll ask them in the proper channel
gaunt moat
It's Racoon huntin' season.
shrewd scroll
Hi quick scenario, going into a new pack 6+ mobs. I got 6 cp, snd running stealthed. Do I spend cp on CT to break stealth or do just Garx3 still and waste the cp gen? Or use a different finisher first?
trail vortex
any addon that can show how many bleeds I have up? more specifically how many ruptures and time remainings? tried googlign but no success
strange python
i installed a new weakauras for ass rogue and i feel so stupid for legit just not knowing what this is: ?
its in the dead center so it must be important 💀
empty lava
poisons?
strange python
poisons are all up
strange python
yep!
strange python
i'll mention as well it's LE's Group that's doing it
grave meadow
Does sin only beat sub in St boss dmg only with PI I don’t get pi often that’s why I ask
runic hinge
Does sin only beat sub in St boss dmg only with PI I don’t get pi often that’s w...
You could sim yourself as sub and sin and see which is higher
past forum
Also there’s a lot to say for personal play. Even without pi i play assa enough better than sub to do better boss damage on every fight other than smold
icy acorn
sub is prob better for the raid if you actually know how to play it correctly
fluid glade
Does sin only beat sub in St boss dmg only with PI I don’t get pi often that’s w...
technically speaking post-nerf sub should do more dmg than sin, but thats assuming equivalent externals
icy acorn
- if you have like only 1 pi and an udk
fluid glade
also sub is just as reliant on WFT as sin is on PI, but you could make a stronger argument to a raid lead to get both as sin, so its just really up to ur guild and how much they care to optimize
hollow heron
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Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
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Pooling Practice Tool
grave meadow
You could sim yourself as sub and sin and see which is higher
I wouldn’t even know what talents to put for the sub sim if you do send me the link for it and I will do a sim when I get home
grave meadow
technically speaking post-nerf sub should do more dmg than sin, but thats assumi...
Ty we only have 1 pi and a DK so I was just wondering
lime crypt
its in the dead center so it must be important 💀
well, you do need 4 poisons up
as assa
i assume you have like 1 lethal and 1 non lethal poison up, but you can do 2 lethal and 2 nonlethal (lets say amplifying poison + deadly and crippling + atrophic/numbing)
leaden sundial
should I just play Eluviseness in keys ? Cheat death feels kinda weaker
for some bosses
lime crypt
do what you think is best for you
if u r good feinter and keep good track of it and know cooldowns
and you aint dps rat
sure go for it
leaden sundial
if u r good feinter and keep good track of it and know cooldowns
Yeah. i just do taht . Sometimes healer just can;t keep up and it is irritating
neat plank
and you aint dps rat
is that a bad thing? 🙂
stable storm
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TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back
- If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
- Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
- Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
- With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use
stable storm
im gonna poooooooooooool
leaden sundial
Yeah. i just do taht . Sometimes healer just can;t keep up and it is irritating
Mainly I mean those 2 bosses in everbloom for example
cobalt violet
is there play list or something to keep my mentals healthy while farming nick of time?
royal lantern
is there play list or something to keep my mentals healthy while farming nick of...
after 35 runs you start not beeing annoyed anymore and just laughing everytime you loot the chest and get your 56 gold
😄
cobalt violet
after 35 runs you start not beeing annoyed anymore and just laughing everytime y...
just finished my 30th run, got the sandglass 8th time. feels like charity when I donate it to my random group mates lol
maybe 35 is the charm!
cunning geyser
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Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
sweet dawn
is that a bad thing? 🙂
If you greed for DPS and die for it then kindda