assassination

[plucky canopy]

Okay

Than this is an easy but major gain for u

Whispyr has same very good guide videos

I advise u to watch them, very good guy in teaching sin gameplay

https://youtube.com/@whispyr5793?si=B0ZE_hTOAht_QsGE

Chaining evenoms, pooling and propper garrote usage is probably all u need since the generally breakdown already looks fine on first glance

It does

[grim jay]

Its a damage proc

What tooltip

If you can see the tooltip of the proc then its obviously there

No idea what other tooltip could there be

[plucky canopy]

In sims there is no tool tip for timestrike I think

That's what he is referring to

[grim jay]

As a stat you mean

[full solstice]

thank you

[plucky canopy]

Yea correct

[full solstice]

i found the problem

[plucky canopy]

That's great 🙂

[full solstice]

pooling

i was definitely spamming

[lucid rain]

Yeah don't be like zerocool

[grim jay]

Is it even under stats ingame?

[lucid rain]

he's a gamer but god damn watching his energy bar hurts

[plucky canopy]

If u didn't, i would watch all his 10.2 guides (and have the time) there is much good stuff

[full solstice]

lol i dont think i have more than 25% energy ever after my first kb window and thistle tea pops

[runic hinge]

He’s a spammer. He’s spams m+ just like he spams envenom

[royal lantern]

way too much and everyone overlooks the fails because of the few highs?

[grim jay]

I sometimes get into that bad habit aswell because it was like that before. Brain just stops working for a few sec

[grim jay]

Probably rather because of the rio

Like. WF raiders failing and noone cares

[runic hinge]

Pretty much. The guy is decent but damn he just does 50 keys every day

[spare fog]

Yea

[runic hinge]

His mental is strong for sure.

[grim jay]

Yea its just not there. Its no real stat, just rather a proc

[runic hinge]

I couldn’t do 50 keys a day

[runic hinge]

I’ll catch myself spamming for a bit after cds but my energy isn’t really low anyways. And sometimes I end up pooling in execute too much and having too much energy because of blind side

[grim jay]

I could if I had the time. I did like 100+ keys wednesday to sunday at season start when I had days off and pre-bought all the necessities

[lucid rain]

The one thing I wish rogue had was a 100 energy spender that's strictly for execute (b/c blindside energy gain) or when you're overcapping due to haste buffs

[runic hinge]

I’ve done like 60 keys or so this season and some of my guildies think that’s crazy

And I think I’ve probably played my alts too much

[royal lantern]

mate, i did 2yesterday and heared the voices again

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-sad-sad-cat-cat-meme-gif-12065013016370441684

[runic hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-voices-in-my-head-voices-cat-gif-23453583

[grim jay]

I mean you aint overcapping if you dont want to outside of bl

[grim jay]

I have an alt aswell

At 478

Sometimes you gotta do alts

[runic hinge]

I have a 455 feral and also I boosted a mage Monday

But I am mostly casual

[grim jay]

Bro randoms are a blast

I usually pug with my bdk if I feel like pugging

So I can solo everything

And watch them having strokes

[runic hinge]

I heard arcane mage is like assa and I’ve never had a max level mage so I used the free boost on one

Being ranged is literally payphone gif all the time

[grim jay]

Kinda. Static big burst

Mobile with good defensives

But mana is a pain

Compared to energy

[lucid rain]

iridikron final phase

can't mash buttons hard enough

[royal lantern]

randoms always somehow find a way too do the worst possible thing in any given Situation, its actually incredible

you have a heal heavy fight? the ranged WILL stay at absolute max range and behind 3 LoS objects and doesnt get hit by any aoe heals, 100% (200% when you have a prevoker or rshaman healer)

BUT if there is actually a mechanic that wants you too be spread out? suddenly they hug melee like crazy, its incredible

[runic hinge]

I haven’t even tried arcane yet tbh I’ve been playing frost cause that shit is brainless. Gonna wait until the weekend to learn arcane

[lucid rain]

manifested timeways, ranged dps on the opposite side of the healer, somewhere in narnia

[plucky canopy]

I think m+ this season is fun as fuck, but u already have hard times to get invited if you are not a dh or Aug 🤷‍♂️

[royal lantern]

which is funny cus aug makes keys worse 99% of the time

[plucky canopy]

True

[lucid rain]

my group timed 20s first week with an aug

[runic hinge]

Yeah most augs are io inflated bafoons

[lucid rain]

we definitely made things harder on ourselves

[plucky canopy]

But still people like can't come around to see anything else besides dh dh dh dh

Man fuck em

I am close above 3.1k, have 6/9m and 482 ilvl and get declined for 24/25s

[runic hinge]

I do like the dungeon pool this season tbh

[plucky canopy]

Just because dh is a small bit better

Jesus I am mad

[runic hinge]

They got a lot of freebie bosses in there

[plucky canopy]

Yea it's fun

[grim jay]

Definitely the best one so far

[plucky canopy]

Tott is weird, but still kinda fun

[lucid rain]

murozond was absolute cancer before the nerfs

[plucky canopy]

Everything else is good, was hyped for ad and WM

[lucid rain]

but yeah, season gud 👍

[runic hinge]

Agreed

[lucid rain]

I just hope they don't re-use vault of the wardens

fuck that place

[plucky canopy]

It is almost as good as bfa season 4 was and that was the best m+ season I played

[grim jay]

I didnt like bfa at all

Tbh

[plucky canopy]

Still better as going for tol dagor

[grim jay]

I want maw of souls

[lucid rain]

I didn't play bfa but I've heard a friend complaining about it

any maw of souls +2 AP farmers?

[plucky canopy]

Loved it, but that is prob (as always) just a result of the people I played with that time and how we blasted keys

[royal lantern]

man, fuck legion

[lucid rain]

yeah you're telling me lol

[royal lantern]

suck a shit expansion for 80% of its runtime

[lucid rain]

I got aggramar's stride first on my warrior

sephuz first on my rogue

[grim jay]

And still one if the better ones

[royal lantern]

but DAE LEGION THE BEST??? cus they only look at the last Patch

cool

[lucid rain]

meanwhile our guild's fire mage got his 3 bis legendaries back to back to back over 3 days

[plucky canopy]

Speedy boy u are

[lucid rain]

I would love a legion classic with targeted legendaries and a tweaked AP system

would be sick

[grim jay]

Got zoldycks first

[lucid rain]

I hate you

[royal lantern]

i mean, the only really horrible one was WoD, cus WoD was borderline a scam

[grim jay]

I liked the hfc patch tho

Hfc was kinda fun

[royal lantern]

was fun for a while

[grim jay]

Soul cap + archi trinket + sub

Dang

[royal lantern]

not for nearly a year

[deft vault]

WoD leveling was insanely good tho

[royal lantern]

[deft vault]

First day of the xpac was amazing

[royal lantern]

mate, sorry but 6hours of leveling dont redeem a entire expansion that had nothing else at all

[deft vault]

if you ignore the lag

i mean wod had great content

it just had very little content

gimme wod over shadowlands every single days

SL was a piece of shit

[royal lantern]

such a bad take

[sharp stump]

Horrendus take

[royal lantern]

yeha sure

i want litearlly Nothing at all

over a shity main villan

👍

[deft vault]

the fuck couldnt care less about the jailer lol

the raids were shit

grind were shit

[royal lantern]

like, mate, WoD was litearlly "lvl for 4-5 hours ->nothing too play anymore"

it was a scam

[deft vault]

everything was shit about SL

[lucid rain]

I think as art, shadowlands was excellent

the zones were beautiful

in their own way, ofc

hard to make maldraxxus look pretty

[deft vault]

Only time i ever tought about quitting wow was SL

[sharp stump]

L takes left right and centre here

[grim jay]

Bfa

[deft vault]

Loved BFA

[grim jay]

Bruh

[royal lantern]

when a expansion has you raid logging in not even week1 cus there was legit NOTHING in the game too do

[deft vault]

And im pretty sure if they made everything account wide BFA would be absolutly loved by everyone

[royal lantern]

and people still go "dae sl bad???"

[deft vault]

BFA sucked cuz there was too many grind and playing alt was insane

[grim jay]

The whole azerite shit wasnt interesting and kinda meh with the traits etc

[deft vault]

it was okayish

[grim jay]

And corruption

[deft vault]

Corruption would have been insane if the vendor was there from the start and no rotation

[grim jay]

That was an abomination

[sharp stump]

What grinds were there even in shadowlands besides original maw dailies for sockets

[spiral pasture]

ppl thinking last 6 months of bfa redeem whole expansion

[grim jay]

Same as now

[sharp stump]

Dragonflight turbo ass expansion then? ;o

[grim jay]

Cov aside

[deft vault]

Nah conduits farm

[spiral pasture]

maw and korthia was anti content, id rather not play nothing than do that shit again

[grim jay]

Dunno I liked shadowlands except sepulcher

[royal lantern]

yeha, it was so funny when people wherr like "NO MORE MANDATORY GRINDS IN DF, THANKS BLIZZARD!!!"

what mandatory grind was there in SL lol, doing torghast 2x a week for 2-3 weeks?

[waxen oyster]

i did all 4 cov stories

[sharp stump]

Same, just gets shouted down cause people were like 'Fucking anima grind !" When it was all cosmetic 💀

[waxen oyster]

by end of CN

good expac

[grim jay]

Id rather do torghast every day than other dailies

[waxen oyster]

XD

[spiral pasture]

yes grinding korthia daily for 3 weeks to max out rep was peak content

[deft vault]

Maw and korthia for sockets and conduits?

[royal lantern]

the short name was AP, so they went internet bigbrain

nobody plays less wow then wow "players" on onnline boards

[royal lantern]

who the fuck did maw for sockets

like srsly

[deft vault]

?

[spiral pasture]

??

[royal lantern]

are you some top20raider lol

[grim jay]

I dont remember really grinding it. Was pretty easy going

[deft vault]

Lots of people the fuck lol

[spiral pasture]

korthia almost made me quit on day 2 of patch

[waxen oyster]

korthia wasnt as bad as s1 maw

[sharp stump]

Korthia was legit the same as any other new patch zone basically. Weekly quest, some dailies, kill rares, ect

[spiral pasture]

both were extremely bad

[waxen oyster]

esp on rogue where our potencies werent as strong as other classes

imo

[spiral pasture]

you cant say mandatory torghast maw and korthia is better than raid logging

[waxen oyster]

i also got rank 4 unholy set mythic week 2

so i was chilling hard

[spiral pasture]

oh yeah also that thing

yes SL was good

[deft vault]

bruh the fucking gems

ptsd

[waxen oyster]

i got 99s playing kinda scuffed

[sharp stump]

Bring back frost set sin rogue pog

[waxen oyster]

eww

well i played sub most of that tier

played sin first 3 bosses

[royal lantern]

we have "rng yourself too top dps" with kingsbane crits now ok?

[waxen oyster]

then decided i dont want to compete with boosted monkeys who get kyrian bond and PI

[deft vault]

Anduin almost made me quit. Fuck that shit ass boss

[sharp stump]

No big shield from KB though, v sadge

[waxen oyster]

oh yeah they put me in on anduin

[spiral pasture]

and bfa... my god do ppl forget quickly

[waxen oyster]

instead of the ret

still 0 clue why

rogue bad

[spiral pasture]

there were so many issues with most of the expac

[waxen oyster]

my one job on anduin

[grim jay]

Turtles

[waxen oyster]

kidney a ghost

[royal lantern]

df gave us Augmentation

that alone made the Expansion SO MUCH WORSE, it didnt deserve that lol

[grim jay]

Yeah wouldve been great without

[waxen oyster]

dragons are just pandering

[spiral pasture]

augs and mandatory grind shitty systems are different things, but yes df will be plagued by the introduction of that spec

[royal lantern]

mate, im 100% convinced that if they dont go back with their entire "support" idea and instead go even deeper into it

it will legit be the actual death of the game

[deft vault]

DF doesnt have -a lot of negative but its just very bland i guess?

[royal lantern]

raiding feels so bad since aug exists

[grim jay]

They shouldve just made a melee fistweapon using dragon. Or have a 3rd spec to DHs so they can fail and be overtuned in another way

[royal lantern]

df is a new baseline

does the groundwork

so that future stuff can build up on it

[spiral pasture]

theres no way ppl out there thinking "damn if i had to grind new zone for 3 more weeks daily this patch would have been more lit and not bland"

[slim hedge]

Imagine a disc priest PI-ing random targets such as the prot pally

[grim jay]

Yeah I mean its fine if they got shit sorted, but its just not the case

[deft vault]

Yeah its an alright xpac but i personally find it very meh

[spiral pasture]

or "damn the alt gearing is too good rn, i wish i was months behind everyone when i create an alt"

???

[sharp stump]

Seems like DF they just found their new formula they're sticking with. That's why war within seems a lot of more of the same

[waxen oyster]

i do kinda miss

endbosses giving higher loot

[spiral pasture]

"oh i can just go do m+/pvp/raid with minimal grind, fuck i miss having to go grind out some arbitrary power before i can enjoy the content i ultimately i wanna do"

[runic hinge]

I loved korthia btw. I didn’t even raid or do m+. Didn’t even do lfr. I logged in and did korthia dailies every day

Maybe I’m wrong for that tho

[royal lantern]

its just so ridicolous

legit every single guy playing aug hates the spec but feels forced/actually IS forced too play it

the only guys cheering for it are forum/reddit worldquest andys that could play anything anyway, meanwhile devestation is DEAD dead, and preservation aswell even thought its 1 of the best crafted healers (and specs in general) in the game, its ridicolous

and thats gonna be the future for all classes that get a "support"

[waxen oyster]

idk

despite they fixed apparent pvp grind issues

[cedar knot]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[waxen oyster]

pvp is even more dead

from what i noticed

[spiral pasture]

if they redesigned the game with support being an actual role it could work

[runic hinge]

Pvp is crazy dead

[grim jay]

Still waiting for dh support that just whips out a tattoo studio to apply tattoo buffs to the raid

[waxen oyster]

i remember checking a pvp stream in s1

[spiral pasture]

now they slapped this 1 spec that doesnt fit the game of 20 years

[waxen oyster]

and it was just

ret paladin

every game

[runic hinge]

After rework ret was insane

[waxen oyster]

i have a burning hatred for that spec

for some reason

idk ret players are....

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/die-gun-shotgun-deus-vult-gif-17767114

[quiet oar]

I was surprised yesterday in our Reclear that the DPS numbers in Details were the same in the Logs because the Aug was bench

[unreal valley]

Hey guys, I want to spec into sin and outlaw rogue, and I want to use an alchemical flavor pocket embellishment. What Item do you think would fit best for it?

I was thinking cloak for the minimal loss in the -3 illvl from max

[near valley]

Whatever slot ur not likely to change

So yeah cloak is fine

Or rings

[reef mulch]

Made ring for free socket and I have hope for future vaults 😂

[ripe palm]

Does the engi Cr bracers take up an embellishment?

[plucky canopy]

Is hat not the high of corruption end of s4 or full ham lego stuff of legion or sl

[indigo mulch]

How much dps loss is it to mutilate instead of ambush during SD?

[weak cypress]

why

[slate crown]

I mean it’s technically a gain during deathmark, like 75 dps gain. It’s also not a major loss outside of dm

[maiden cliff]

does any body have an issue with https://wago.io/PFTo3o6Ug it seems to not work after or just disappears

[hallow stirrup]

If I do
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Kingsbane
will it always cast SD first or am I griefing myself

[royal lantern]

the order doesnt matter

[hallow stirrup]

Ah, ty

[indigo mulch]

No the reason why i asked is cause i keep forgetting to use ambush during the opener lmao

I just press mutilate like the bot i am.

😄

[steel stump]

huh

[clever niche]

Ambush on your stealth bar, mutilate on your main bar and you're good to go friend

[indigo mulch]

Not sure why i didn't think about that. Such a simple solution to my "issue"

My main issue is that i suck at pooling and have poor uptime on envenom though

[lucid rain]

negligible

[steel stump]

you have to fight that inner wow dps player sickness of smashing your keyboard for 5min straight

[indigo mulch]

[royal lantern]

i cope by having the other wow player sickness: riding/flying circles in the current expansion main city

[clever niche]

Clip buff at less than 1 second as many times in a row as you can once you can't build up combo points and pool to 240 and go again

[indigo mulch]

But mr lizard. I have adhd.

😢

[clever niche]

Dalaran laps hit different

[royal lantern]

unpopular opinion

SL laps where the best

you had the 4lines too jump over

made it feel special

[indigo mulch]

[surreal spear]

Wafting devotion on Weapons for Assa?

[clever niche]

I only played the first season of SL, the middle of oribos was a good place to lap

[indigo mulch]

sim

[royal lantern]

sim

[orchid pewter]

They were to long, i lost track halfway through

[clever niche]

Sim, for example double sophic comes in about 0.6% lower than double wafting for my guy

[subtle tundra]

Some of the best content in sl

[fast gust]

Hi in the guides its defined to use a finisher at 4+ Combo points is it >=4 or >4 ?

[royal lantern]

4 or more

[flint tusk]

Whelp. I’m being relegated to mid tier dps for the remainder of the tier 😦
Dk switched to unholy after getting lego axe so is the pi hero now apparently.

[royal lantern]

who doesnt love beeing a external spamm class and beeing balanced around it 🙂

[flint tusk]

Tell me about it.

Was fun while it lasted i guess. But now it just feels bad.

Not bad to play i mean. That’s still fun obviously! But you know what i mean.

[lavish wagon]

Guys 1 question: in a boss fight in a M+ scenario (with arterial build) u still apply and refresh crimson tempest on him? or use it only in aoe pack situation?

[royal lantern]

only in aoe

[grim jay]

Couldnt happen to me

Because we actually take performance into consideration

So unless I play sub on a boss its mine

[plucky canopy]

Yea the 1 heal priest only scenario is real bad, have the same thing in my guild and our dk ist just a very very good dk player, so it is a good target by class and player.

So I just happen to get pi whenever our shadow is in the setup

Definitely not optimal

And sin does not feel like a very good target for a spriest pi, since u eventually get your pi before your cds on some fight if he uses his cds on cd

[royal lantern]

me, waiting for whisp too cook up something new i can copy

[jaunty dew]

Still no rings ><

[plucky canopy]

7 runs is kinda not that much, some people are at 40/50 before they get what they need 😂

[jaunty dew]

Thing is

It dropped in 5 of those runs

And the people who got them didn't need them but ilvl

[plucky canopy]

That's despair

The best feeling

Personal loot so good

[jaunty dew]

xD

I'm still rocking a veteran ring lol

no vault no raid no m+

😦

[crisp pine]

I almost cum every time I open the chest and see nothing besides the 53 gold in there

Amazing feeling

[subtle tundra]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[subtle tundra]

damn, assa is the lowest simming spec by a lot

[quasi solar]

should i go wafting or sophic devotion

[subtle tundra]

you sim it

and you play it

[quasi solar]

can't sim it i need to buy it from ah and sim like that

and guess what i don't have

[subtle tundra]

you can sim it

[lucid rain]

use gear compare

[subtle tundra]

what????????

[quasi solar]

is that working

lol

nice

[subtle tundra]

why cant you do it in top gear?

huh???

[quasi solar]

you can't

try if you wan

want*

[subtle tundra]

?

are you ok?

[quasi solar]

clearly im not

[subtle tundra]

double wafting wins for me at 26% haste

🥺

[keen spruce]

[jade hedge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[quasi solar]

in sheet assa is simming lowest of the rog specs

[royal lantern]

I LOVE BEEING BALANCED AROUND EXTERNAL SPAMM

[quasi solar]

is it undersimming or sub goes top again?

[keen spruce]

[royal lantern]

mate, assa always was the lowest

it just could use pi

[subtle tundra]

nah its a byproduct of being geared a lot, good encounter designs for the spec, externals and just pure skill

[royal lantern]

[keen spruce]

Tryan are you gonna release your "Tryan hates:" advent calendar soon?

I want my chocolate

[blazing jewel]

Shmeeps got sin nerfed

Everyone point pitchforks at him

[quasi solar]

is there a sim with pi's?

[keen spruce]

I'm a blue parsing perry

it wasn't my fault

[quasi solar]

saw that on raidbots but its on beta

it doesn't work properly?

[royal lantern]

externals, SnD, augmentation evoker and the "support" idea, boomkins, 90% of warlocks, 90% of mages

thats 6days

[blazing jewel]

No green machines allowed

[royal lantern]

help me find others

[keen spruce]

i can't even get a good trend line going

only 4 bosses

did u get tindral down yet @blazing jewel

did u get p3 birb? @gusty mirage

[blazing jewel]

[keen spruce]

did anyone make any progress on that dogshit druid?

[blazing jewel]

We got to 38%

[royal lantern]

im STARTING progress on him soon

[subtle tundra]

30% last night last pull

poggers

[keen spruce]

add day 7 to the calendar

[royal lantern]

yooooo

[steel stump]

Stuck on nimue 😦 I hate blue lines

[blazing jewel]

You should turn on colorblind mode for a pull

[royal lantern]

try out colorblind

[blazing jewel]

Turns that fight into a movie

[steel stump]

interesting

As a melee having to soak on the other side the red zone is a pain tho

[subtle tundra]

i dont want to change anything
i feel like im in da zone every pull

clean gaming

[blazing jewel]

I forget which version of the colorblind it is but the entire area is bright green and the beams are blindingly pink it’s hilarious

[royal lantern]

reminder that 1 out of 12 males has some form of color blindness/weakness

its just very common that they dont even know it themself and dont try colorblind help out at all, and if it heavy improves the visuals for them

[keen spruce]

[steel stump]

definitively something to try yeah

[royal lantern]

nymue made 1 of our Raiders realise that he actually IS colorblind

[steel stump]

even if you're not, contrast is everything (I'm a frontend dev I know)

[blazing jewel]

Buff implosion

[quiet oar]

[royal lantern]

warlocks rising "silently" too the top again, its hilarious

[quasi solar]

in the shadow dance window, is spamming garrote is more valuable then ambush?

[royal lantern]

[quasi solar]

jpc was doing like this in splits

[blazing jewel]

45% of our locks damage on tindral is implosion

[blazing jewel]

Was an unintended thing that got fixed a day or two in

Not good anymore

[hardy dagger]

Was in the game ever since deathmark got added

[royal lantern]

ye but never mattered really

[hardy dagger]

Ofc was kinda nice tho if it worked once

Would be*

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[quiet oar]

Why was that

[fast gust]

someone knows the spell id for the Improved Garrote debuff ?

[blazing jewel]

I think it was acting as if you pressed garrote x2 for cp? Don’t quote me on that

It was a gain to do it at the time but it got fixed in a day

[quiet oar]

Oh ok

[blazing jewel]

Because it would max your cp every time

[quiet oar]

I see

Im an ethical Gmer

[subtle tundra]

bcs while in dm shrouded gave you 4cp

[quiet oar]

i dont abuse bugs

[subtle tundra]

it has been in the game since df start

[plucky canopy]

My pc just went dark and is now deadge, now I loose at least 3 days of raid until the new pc arrives.
I am so sad, this raid is so fun 😦

Cannot remember having so much fun in a raid since ever

[pastel onyx]

Wait is there a colorblind mode

Im eeeeh

Bad with some

Tones of colors

[quiet oar]

How long does the PC need to be deliviered

[plucky canopy]

4-6 work days until it will get send

So does not arrived before Thursday, and if on Friday that's 3 days (yesterday, Tuesday and next thursday)

I just don't want to miss smoldi progress

[quiet oar]

Ye i know about the tuesday

[plucky canopy]

I am so hyped to pump there

[quiet oar]

Send Badscaleing greetings

from me

[plucky canopy]

Oh lol, sure

[keen spruce]

how much of your damage is spatter?

[plucky canopy]

Raided with him before?

[quiet oar]

In Nathria and SOD, but was in his Guild as Friend where he raided before

[subtle tundra]

for me its 10-12%

completely passive

[plucky canopy]

Ah cool, the world is so small it's insane

[keen spruce]

shaddup

[subtle tundra]

sorry

[keen spruce]

[quiet oar]

I saw him playing Unholy in Nathria, Mistweaver in SOD and Sepulcher, Hunter in Fated and now Cringe Avoker

If you want to bully him, ask him how good he was in stunning the adds on Anduin

[worldly viper]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[keen spruce]

yeah tell him shmeeps said he smells lilke cabbage

[quiet oar]

I played nymue with spatter yesterday

[keen spruce]

@plucky canopy

[quiet oar]

i was so pissed

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/why-tho-though-gif-7485441

[quiet oar]

I forgot to change it

[plucky canopy]

Will ask him that 😂😂

[quiet oar]

I mean he is an Aug

Augs are tasteless as are cabbages

[plucky canopy]

That aswell

[keen spruce]

idk him

but tell him anyways

[plucky canopy]

It true so why not

[keen spruce]

[quiet oar]

Shmeeps

[keen spruce]

hmm ?

[quiet oar]

Where Posts of your runs at 4 AM where you lose your sanity

[keen spruce]

bruther man you can watch them live

at twitch dot tee vee

[quiet oar]

I saw you playing Sarka

[keen spruce]

/ shmeeps underscore pee H dee

that was months ago

[quiet oar]

Ill report this selfadvertising to the Authorities

[keen spruce]

i've done nothing

it's all obscured

from the authorities

[blazing jewel]

Nobody tell him

[quiet oar]

And ill buy the "Shmeeps" Special edition nuggets

[mystic osprey]

how to get id from here

IC*

[subtle tundra]

dashing scoundrel out

ic in

[keen spruce]

drop dashing ye

[mystic osprey]

yep

how big of dps loss is that

[subtle tundra]

not a lot

[mystic osprey]

should I just use cleave build for fyrakk

[subtle tundra]

no

splatter only

i assume you mean hc cause i doubt youre on mythic

[mystic osprey]

yeah

[subtle tundra]

and if you have add dps issue then tell your raid to get better

[quiet oar]

Its Spatter !

[strange python]

Hi all! Sometimes i'm energy starving on m+ bosses and sometimes not, it happens because of poor energy pooling? Im keeping up bleeds and poisons but i feel that i just cant regen enough energy while pooling

[subtle tundra]

i cant read

[quiet oar]

Toxic

[subtle tundra]

yes, youre playing assa you get starved sometimes

[subtle tundra]

not toxic, based on context i made the correct assumption

[quiet oar]

Did you just assume his Progress ?????

[strange python]

Is this normal? Sometimes i blast bosses with around 200k and sometimes hard keep it above 100k

[subtle tundra]

assa is a very cd based spec

if you dont manage your cds correctly, yes

and play them properly

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-27377993

[strange python]

For example what do you do in atal totem boss, do you full cd on totem or just sd+kb? I did one yesterday and didnt used cds on totem then i almost did 0 dps

[blazing jewel]

[mystic osprey]

I just use sd and kb depending on how my groups going

on their totems

[subtle tundra]

big depends on your group

[strange python]

Thanks guys, i have one more question

Sometimes i start pooling at very low energy (<50) and i have to use 2 mutilate then bleeds coming off so i refresh them and i have zero energy again

I feel i just auto for 10-15 secs

Anybody else having this kind of problem with pooling?

[cunning scaffold]

That sounds like a good time to hit tea

[strange python]

I burn all teas during cds

[subtle tundra]

you burn 1 tea every minute

[cunning scaffold]

You have 2 extra charges of tea

[subtle tundra]

and then you use the others whenever you need

[abstract thunder]

we got our kingsbane nerf right ?

[ember parrot]

Is this for the final 6s od KB?

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/do-tell-tell-me-more-sips-tea-gif-22861578

[subtle tundra]

clearly you shouldnt have skipped whispyr's class

[strange python]

Thank you guys again

[subtle tundra]

yas

[abstract thunder]

is there any changes for talents after this nerf ?

[cunning scaffold]

How horrific is it to not have a tea charge during kingsbane? I haven’t really run into the problem where I don’t have a use, but I’m wondering how much of a benefit it gives

[strange python]

Usually when i learn new spec i burn everything because wrong timing is better than just not using an ability. So now im more comfortable with class and i can make adjustments about cd managment.

[teal furnace]

I bet this question has been asked like 1400 times. I started bonking away on my assa rogue last week, today I'm like 2700 or something (rio) and 474 ish ilvl. What talents should I run? And why is garrote and rupture my top damage always

I really want to understand how in the fuck people manage to get envenom/caustic spatter to be top dps

[fervent rune]

Make sure you are at 4+cp when you start pooling

[orchid pewter]

dont think caustic/spatter is top damage in tyran

shit just dies to fast

[grim jay]

Difference in builds

Comp

Dungeon

[grim jay]

Kinda is with cleave build.

[gusty mirage]

No, our healer’s internet died so we called raid and are just gonna raid next Wednesday instead. Such a scuffed tier ngl

[limber lion]

If Envenom or Spatter is higher than Garrote, they're doing something wrong

[limpid gale]

hi, i got a question, can i use blue silken linen with thorn boots and toxic patch?

[limber lion]

Not that bad as long as the tea you used was used for energy. If you use it outside of KB and without getting full energy benefit from it, it's pretty bad

[limber lion]

No

You would ditch patch for BSL

[limpid gale]

is it worth?

i think alchemical or brez would be better right?

[grim jay]

Its the build if you compare cleave vs something like shock

[ancient pier]

What u thing? its right or?

[gusty mirage]

If you’re using ashes you pop it in 2-3s into KB not with deathmark

[frank roost]

Isn't it better to delay the trinket?

[gusty mirage]

But looks fine otherwise

[ancient pier]

i simm both ashes and branch, branch still simm more but i think i do more dmg with ashes

[rare jackal]

graphic design taking me right back to 2007
(opener looks fine aside from ashes as pointed out)

[keen spruce]

[grim jay]

Do you use branch correctly

[keen spruce]

well if u get 100k channel points at least you'll get a keese

[grim jay]

Keese

[keen spruce]

[gusty mirage]

It’s okay, I’ve been sleep deprived as fuck it ended up working out tbh

Got to go to bed early vs being up until 1am lol

[keen spruce]

i been doin keys since Wendesday morning and haven't even filled my vault up

cuz of so many depletos

[gusty mirage]

Oh I did my eight 20s on Tuesday and I’ve raid logged since

Poe today

No time for fake internet points in wow

[keen spruce]

look if i get3200 fake internat points

then i get titan booster rank

and i can make more gold

[gusty mirage]

Look, you’re already #1 m+ rogue in my heart

[keen spruce]

from all of the pople aren't paying for titan boosts

[gusty mirage]

Internet points be damned

[keen spruce]

becasue they're so expensive

[gusty mirage]

I will say it proudly, I am a Shmeeps simp

And you can quote me on that

[grim jay]

A shmimp

[gusty mirage]

A shmimp

[rare jackal]

🍤 ly based

[keen spruce]

smimpers rise up

shmimpers

[arctic socket]

[gusty mirage]

And I will continue to show up in your chat and type !onlyfans like I have been the entire week

[grim jay]

[keen spruce]

one day

a bot will respond to you with a special link

[grim jay]

The real question is

How many peepo tattoos will we see

[arctic socket]

Hopefully more then 2

[gusty mirage]

Stealthi added one

It’s a picture of a raccoon in a little sweater it’s adorably hilarious

[keen spruce]

send me the bot

oh steamelements does it

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-poe-gif-25673525

[arctic socket]

Is the new league worth hopping on for

[grim jay]

PoE is never worth hopping on

[gusty mirage]

They just rebalanced all the gems, brought back ultimatum, and the new league mechanic gives you a 2nd ascendancy

Looks fucking sick

[royal lantern]

i respect beeing a hater

[arctic socket]

Did they do anything to tornado shot

[gusty mirage]

No more alt quality gems (phantasmal/divergent/anomalous) and you can transfigure gems

[gusty mirage]

Did they nerf it like they should have? No

[arctic socket]

Or just non played gems like glacial hammer

[grim jay]

As a fellow hater on PoE or just as a fellow hater?

[arctic socket]

How do you nerf tornado shot

[royal lantern]

yes

[gusty mirage]

There’s a transfigured TS that has 13 arrows so that’s kinda neat

[keen spruce]

@earnest remnant how do u set a chat command

with steamelements

[gusty mirage]

Some cool stuff that needs to be figured out still really

Plus metamorph is dead

New league stuff looks really really good

[earnest remnant]

by going into streamelements and add them lol

[keen spruce]

that's gotta be

the most unhelpful response

[royal lantern]

stealthi

i love that pfp

[keen spruce]

i've had like 2 bottles of ine

wine

and 3 cocktials

just be more xplicit

[arctic socket]

Probably by go into the commands tab

[earnest remnant]

streamelements.com/dashboard - chatbot - chatcommands - custom commands @keen spruce

[keen spruce]

[grim jay]

2 bottles of wine

https://tenor.com/view/drinking-inna-drunk-drinking-wine-drink-gif-16256497

[gusty mirage]

Homie got white girl wasted on a Thursday night

[keen spruce]

@gusty mirage

what command

[gusty mirage]

Hi

[keen spruce]

was it again

[royal lantern]

oh, and can i say again that the discord update is pure, unfiltered liquid shit?

[keen spruce]

!onlyfans?

[gusty mirage]

It was !onlyfans sir

[keen spruce]

!onlyducks?

okayh

[gusty mirage]

You can also do !fansly for funsies

[keen spruce]

[grim jay]

!onlyshmimps

[gusty mirage]

That’s copyrighted already

Im making the website as we speak

[shut canopy]

yo

[grim jay]

Understandable

[keen spruce]

okay we good

@gusty mirage it's ready

[gusty mirage]

Im ready to watch you fuck in keys while I get farmed by the campaign in poe

Gonna be lit

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/scrooge-mc-duck-dive-rich-money-gif-10148915

[gusty mirage]

But first it’s gym time

Rise and shine and get your swole on boys

Operation get as hot as @earnest remnant is still underway

[lofty junco]

where do u use tea in the opener?

[gusty mirage]

Last 5s of KB

[lofty junco]

and where else? since we have 3 stacks of it

[gusty mirage]

Big mastery bonus

After that you use it when you’re energy starved

Saving a charge for KB always

[earnest remnant]

you already there handsome

[thorny pond]

wiping to larodar due to enrage AMA

[gusty mirage]

[gusty mirage]

There’s an enrage on larodar?

[thorny pond]

6:50

[gusty mirage]

Interesting

[arctic socket]

So what’s the golden number energy wise to use thistle tea charges at, with 4p, 100, or 150?

After kb window

[gusty mirage]

There isn’t any set magical number but 100-150 seems safest tbh, because with how energy starved we are we don’t want to risk wasting any energy right

[keen spruce]

but i made u a chat command

[royal python]

Does the lethal dose talent adjust dynamically or is it snapshot based

[arctic socket]

You get farmed by the acts?

Acts are so easy though

[gusty mirage]

Im going to try a new melee build

[arctic socket]

Oh

[gusty mirage]

And melee is assington city in poe

[arctic socket]

Melee is always shit tho

Name a good melee build

[gusty mirage]

But there’s a new cleave gem that gives you 2 rage per enemy hit. BIG ZERKER JUICE

That isn’t boneshatter? There isn’t one

[arctic socket]

Boneshatter isn’t good anymore tho reallt

It got gutted

[gusty mirage]

And boneshatter was possibly the worst fucking build I ever played

[arctic socket]

You didn’t like your ramp then become absolutely untouchable?

[gusty mirage]

Im a little bow cuck

[arctic socket]

Or if a single stack dropped you fell over

[gusty mirage]

You think I learned mechanics?

Chris gave me 6 portals and I’m using them

[arctic socket]

Last league was pretty neat

[arctic socket]

You have a cod portal setup don’t you?

[gusty mirage]

I used to ye

[arctic socket]

I always fit a portal gem into my build somewhere even if it means dropping something important, fuck carrying around portal scrolls

[tranquil locust]

What m+ key level do I need to spam to farm the 489 Nick of time? I can't seem to find the answer online

[arctic socket]

Believe that one is just out of vault from doing like a 18+

[tranquil locust]

People say they are just running FALL a bunch of times, just unclear what key level

[rugged grail]

what build do u recommend to buil on forti / tyra keys ?

[arctic socket]

If you’re able to and don’t mind farm out 17s+

[rugged grail]

for high keys i mean

[arctic socket]

17+ gives hero items @tranquil locust so farm those, (upgrades to I believe 483)

[rugged grail]

i guess we can play the hybrid without ct on tyra & hybrid with ct on forti ?

[tranquil locust]

It's not vault only weapon and I'd prefer to get a confirmed answer before I try farming this 30x

[arctic socket]

The 489 is

[gusty mirage]

For a 489 version it only comes from vault, max you can get from galakronds fall is 483

And the minimum key level for hero track gear is 17

[tranquil locust]

Ah ok, so just spam 17+

[gusty mirage]

Ideally you’d run 18s to fill vault with myth track for a chance at a myth track Nick of time

[tranquil locust]

Got it

Ty

[gusty mirage]

[arctic socket]

Good luck

[worldly plank]

Hey wanted to ask

for assa in raid whats better ? Witherbark Branch or Ashes of the Embersoul?

[arctic socket]

I like branch

[royal lantern]

branch except on M tindral

[hardy dagger]

Branch on tindral

[gusty mirage]

Anything on tindral. Being zoned into tindral. Waking up and knowing you have to prog tindral

[arctic socket]

Tindral is a fun fight

[gusty mirage]

Tindral makes me listen to Taylor swift for 3-4 hours a raid night.

[spice spire]

Batman couldn’t beat this outta me

I respect the dedication to the bit tho

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-im-here-gif-27409656

This is what I mean

[cursive marsh]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[rocky sluice]

what third crafted piece did most of you make?

this week

[spice spire]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[gusty mirage]

Ring best value

Cause free socket

[spice spire]

Whatever you need. Ring high value

[gusty mirage]

At least IMO

[spice spire]

But if ur lacking somewhere specifically. Make that

[rocky sluice]

running a buttload of sims and it's telling me to make a cloak but.. I rather make a ring haha

[spice spire]

Uh

Yeah I’d make a ring

[rocky sluice]

I guess my cloak weak

[gusty mirage]

Iirc the droptimizer doesn’t add a gem into the socket on the ring

And sockets are big dam

[rocky sluice]

yeah haha thanks homies

word

[spice spire]

🫡

[gusty mirage]

Plus you can throw an alchemical flavor pocket on the ring and never have to eat buff food again

[rocky sluice]

word!

[gusty mirage]

And if you’re on a52 US I gotchu fam, my warlock is the bis crafter around

[spice spire]

Blackvneck

The only lock I’ll ever support. Including that stinky cyonlock

[autumn vapor]

is there a target cap on aoe blind?

[gusty mirage]

I want to say no, but there’s some sort of limiting factor on it

Cause I’ve had it blind entire packs but also not sometimes

I think if it hits a mob that’s immune to blind as it goes out it just hard stops

[autumn vapor]

alright ty

[runic basin]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[rocky sluice]

whoops... that was totally it

i'm a papega

[solar bramble]

curious what peoples apm is on sin atm. for me at least, I seem to be starved for awhile. it seems like I can't chain more than 3 envenoms without being completely bone dry. sometimes 2 if I also need to refresh rupture at that point (barring blindside procs)

times where I've sat there for nearly 7-8 seconds with nothing to do so that I have enough going into a kingsbane

maybe that's extreme but feels like it

[neat plank]

whats your % haste and what weapon enchants? ;>

[empty timber]

I'm heavily starved in m+ with aoe build but with ST build in raid it feels way better (sometimes I need to start again a chain but then it's okay)

[neat plank]

yeah free ambush procs are great for energy

[willow grotto]

Weapon poison activ ?

[solar bramble]

both active ya.

as is slice and dice

[neat plank]

I used to be starved when I had shit haste, now at 20% its fine

[solar bramble]

without blindside procs or 3 targets all with full poisons active I feel starved often

[spice spire]

You spreading bleeds?

[neat plank]

and double wafting devotion

[solar bramble]

sophic devotion atm.

[willow grotto]

Try sim with wafting

[spice spire]

See above.
If you’re not spreading garrotes/ruptures. Yeah you’re gonna starve

[solar bramble]

well on single target you can't spread garrotes/ruptures

[spice spire]

Our whole energy economy is bleeding and maintaining poisons

Yeah

[solar bramble]

that's with dashing and venemous

[spice spire]

That’s just nature of it

[solar bramble]

it's so slow :(. i'm spending a good 1/5 of my time doing nothing. maybe more

[neat plank]

also sometimes it just feels like you should be doing more but it's fine, just the nature of the spec 🙂

[spice spire]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[spice spire]

Etc etc

[solar bramble]

even waiting for the last 1 second i only get 2 back to back if i need to refresh garrote

rupture*

2 mutilates > envenom.

rarely get an envenom at 1.

[neat plank]

why dont you go double wafting?

does it sim worse?

it feels better to play for me too

[solar bramble]

these daggers will be replaced and I had sophic left from last tier

[neat plank]

i can breathe easier 🙂 its WAFTING PURE OXYGEN INTO ME

[solar bramble]

i'm just indefeinately starved in ST. unless I'm lucky on blindside procs

so m+ bosses are a nightmare

[neat plank]

get more haste

[real stirrup]

when it says "wait until your envenom is in pandemic around 1 second" and with 4pc: does that mean you only apply another envenom when the previous envenom nearly expires?

[solar bramble]

i'm at 18%. and we should be more crit/mastery focused

so if I can't make it work at 18%. something is wrong with my own playstyle most likely

[neat plank]

you still have quite a few ilvls to go

it's gonna get better

[solar bramble]

right now it feels horrid unless i get a blindside proc every other mutilate

[neat plank]

more crit will help too cause you'll get more seal fate procs and require less mutilates

[solar bramble]

and m+ sooo. blindside isnt' there

[neat plank]

it's a problem that resolves itself eventually with more gear

I mean this week at least I'm playing cleave in m+ so I do have blindside

[solar bramble]

or they could . . . just buff venmous wounds when only on a single target 😦

but i know whysper hates that. since he wants sin to be this slow

at like 40 apm it seems like

[neat plank]

speed is less problematic than overall complexity tbh 😛

you could have a really high apm spec that only does SS SS SS Evis

and taht would be easy to play

[solar bramble]

the complexity isn't even too bad. though it is heavily punished if you ever need to disengage even for 1/2 a second in burst

so the council fight in Everbloom just sucks. since you need to leave melee repeatedly for charges

[neat plank]

yeah if something interrupts my long burst chain I rage

[solar bramble]

so no full kingsbane windows

[neat plank]

oh? I never had this problem on council

only soaking every other charge anyawy

[solar bramble]

the charge still puts a pool on everyone

which makes me leave melee to avoid the pool being in melee

[neat plank]

ass doesnt seem very enjoyable for you ;/

[wicked valve]

anyone know roughly how much ebon might adds dps wise?

[solar bramble]

if it wasn't energy starved for 60% of the fight i would like the style. but it's just always bone dry

like a well in the gobi desert with no other water for a thousand miles. so everyone comes to that one well and it no longer exists after a few days

[neat plank]

that's very dry indeed

[runic terrace]

So I got Cruel Dreamcarver. Which buff/enemy is the best for us?!

[feral mason]

sounds like you’re doing something wrong

im starved maybe like once or twice in a raid fight

[woeful wigeon]

leech i supose

[feral mason]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[runic terrace]

Mechanical seems strong

[woeful wigeon]

we have cheat death in tallents XD

[ornate zodiac]

but what about second cheat deaths

[feral mason]

Its a very poor cheat death

not sure why its called that

[runic terrace]

Exactly 😁

[feral mason]

Its like 10% hp heal when you drop under 30%

[runic terrace]

Just 10% HP

[feral mason]

every few minutes

[runic terrace]

So leech it is

[fervent jasper]

do we have any idea how accurate Detail's "Evoker Predicted Damage" number is?

[solar bramble]

I'm a little less starved in a raid fight. because blindside and sub 35%. . . m+ bosses however, without blindside procs helping out a lot. i'm starved to all hell and back

no venom rush, or blindside

[surreal citrus]

only had one dreamcarver drop so far and it went to the other rogue but im prolly just gonna rock the speed buff so i can zoom

[split cipher]

Try art shock with blindside, st isnt bad

[solar bramble]

dream carver that good?

[surreal citrus]

its fine

[feral mason]

489 its aight

but nick 489 better

[solar bramble]

both my weaposn are champion. one is carver the other is cinderblade

nick hasn't dropped for me. it's stingy af

even running 17's for it

[surreal citrus]

good luck getting 2 489 nicks

[feral mason]

alr got 1

[surreal citrus]

now get the other

[feral mason]

Give me another week

[solar bramble]

I'd settle for just a heroic max nick :(. i don't even have a champion nick yet

[versed gulch]

Thistle tea should help fill in the gaps. Otherwise there might be some sitting around to Regen energy to start chaining Envenoms again.

[woven frost]

Nicholas only blesses the worthy

[surreal citrus]

your next vault will be 3 capes

bet

[feral mason]

got branch 489, sandglass 489 and nick 489 so far

[woven frost]

Nah 3 shit trinkets AND 3 capes

[feral mason]

cant stop me

[surreal citrus]

[solar bramble]

but ya who do you use dreamcarver on?

[woven frost]

Who did you send the feet pics to at Blizzard?

[solar bramble]

atm i'm just testing some dummies. and that's a +1 engineering lol

[versed gulch]

Move speed or leech under 50. Who cares about the rest?

[surreal citrus]

elemental if i was doing shit open world i guess

[solar bramble]

i don't know what any of them give 😦

or who to use them on to get them lol

[feral mason]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[feral mason]

again

[solar bramble]

ya leech or speed. none of the others I like.

the dr's could be nice

and aberration if no icd

[feral mason]

they have downsides afaik

I dont likr this graphic at all

[versed gulch]

The others are cute or really niche. At least those two have practical applications

[feral mason]

bring back the old one

[surreal citrus]

doesnt abberation have an icd of like 20s

or something

[feral mason]

Ye

Bit less

[solar bramble]

if it does then it's absolutley worthless

[feral mason]

Still shit

[solar bramble]

10% leech sub 50% is far more useful then.

that plus leeching poison

your at 22%

[fervent jasper]

Arterial is simming almost 10k lower for me in dslcie yet I hear everyone praising it

are my sims fucked?

[solar bramble]

I'm not giving up blindside for tiny toxic blade . .. my sanity can't handle it on tyran weeks

[feral mason]

dawg what

[fervent jasper]

I don't play TTB

[feral mason]

Nobody does

[fervent jasper]

This is what you play in keys if you don't play arterial

[surreal citrus]

why does making the blade tiny make it do more damage

[feral mason]

nono the shiv was already tiny

it got upgraded from a shiv to a toxic blade

but still tiny

[solar bramble]

tis what i play if i'm not using arterial as well. and i'm not able to maintain any semblance of energy on bosses

with that build

[fervent jasper]

It's a throwback to when Shiv was called Toxic Blade I guess

[feral mason]

please dont run ttb man

[fervent jasper]

How much haste do you have?

[solar bramble]

I don't. I was at one point in the past. mostly been using what zicore just posted

haste is 18% atm

[fervent jasper]

Thats way too much

you must not be pooling correctly

[crisp pine]

How much avoidance you guys have?

[fervent jasper]

I have 9% and it feels a little bleh but not that bad

[solar bramble]

I don't have much choice in my stat lines atm. due to ilvl differences

can't be overly picky in my choices yet

[fervent jasper]

It's possible your boss dps in keys is low because the keys themselves are so low that the boss is dying when you only get 1 round of big CDs

What level keys are you doing?

[solar bramble]

with an arterial precision setup my energy is generally ok. but in keys on the build without it. . i have nothing

[fervent jasper]

remember we're more concerned about damage output than how our energy feels

assass doesn't attack every global

[solar bramble]

if my energy is always dry my damage isn't there. I can't press anything

[fervent jasper]

then don't

hold your envenoms until the debuff is about to fall off

[solar bramble]

i don't need to every global. but their are several times when I'm not able to press anything for 6-7 seconds it seems

[fervent jasper]

as long as you arent overcapping energy you're not losing damage

[solar bramble]

the only time I use envenom without the debuff falling off is during kingsbane

well . . about to fall off

tier set and all

I burn through a lot and fast in kingsbane.

[fervent jasper]

Yeah but in KB you're using tea

[broken hatch]

This works alot better in higher keys

[solar bramble]

One tea is only 2 mutilates.

[feral mason]

huh?

[fervent jasper]

I'm on 23s and 24s. How high?

[feral mason]

that build is in no way better for high keys

[harsh thicket]

No crimson ?

[solar bramble]

that's an alternative to our raid build specific for tyranical when bosses last a long time

if memory serves me

[broken hatch]

I play it for all tyra keys assuming you a DH or hunter in the group

20+

[fervent jasper]

that looks kind of scuffed to me

[solar bramble]

basically just swapping out a couple things for IC. and Iron wire to help with trash. but emphasizing boss output

[broken hatch]

I even did it fort last week except for the dungs with bigger pulls

[feral mason]

nah the build is good for tyra keys but like

its not better for higher keys or anything

Just better when mobs die faster

[fervent jasper]

I just did a 22 BRH and CT did over 30m damage

[feral mason]

aka tyr week / lower keys

[broken hatch]

What was your comp?

[fervent jasper]

VDH, Disc Priest, Boomie, Auggie, Me

[feral mason]

disc

[broken hatch]

Splatter ends up being top dmg in this build

Yea then CT works

But as soon a DH or Hunter comes in to the group things die to quickly to gain value in the CT build

[gaunt moat]

Petition to rename shiv to toxic blade

[hollow vessel]

how do you manage to play assa in raid? I'm falling asleep

[solar bramble]

how does this setup look for fort weeks?

outside the other build that I should be using

being this