assassination

[polar cape]

Pure insanity convo

[gusty mirage]

Moving circles that one shot you what could go wrong

But thank god we have 2 extra feathers now ig

Boss fixed

[mighty nexus]

I never got why people were assigning feathers

[gusty mirage]

Unironically this fix that was supposed to save people from grabbing feathers in fire has led to me soaking one in fire 90% of the time now

[dark token]

Also our tanks constantly kebab us even 80 pulls in lol

Is there some trick to this tank mech they aren't getting

[gusty mirage]

Because 2 of the other soakers are just moving one over with the extras

So I just get fucked every pull

Pretty cool

[dark token]

Yeah I liked the four from ass the best

[gusty mirage]

Feint and fly ig

[dark token]

Was much easier

I think they are trying and failing to stop the DPS taunt shenanigans

[gusty mirage]

Yeah just make the feathers fixed positions away from the fire regardless of where the boss is facing

At this rate we’ll have 20 feathers by Christmas

Whoever is tuning this boss is actually clueless lmao

[dark token]

Also make them color different coloes

[gusty mirage]

Im a fan of the 7 dif red swirlies when soaking feathers

[dark token]

So we don't have to do angular math to figure out our feather

[gusty mirage]

Lmao

[thorn fjord]

Double feint charges have been really nice

I enjoy it’s

[dark token]

With our current strat I was calculating the number of degrees from north and rotating my camera and equivilant amount before seeing what feather I have

Yeah 2x feint and the faster sprint are absolutely goated

[gusty mirage]

Idk man I’m over this boss already and we’re not even at 150 pulls

[thorn fjord]

I’m gonna get benched on that fight on account of being stupid and having issues with the flying

[gusty mirage]

And we need probably another 300 to kill it lmfao

[thorn fjord]

100%

I hate dragon riding and ain’t nothing anyone can say to change my mind

[gusty mirage]

It’s one of those bosses that’s fine if everyone’s on point or you get some good luck rng with the fire beams

Or absolute dogshit

There’s no in between

[half dawn]

Is my gear for Assa so bad? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/est8kvukpaee8CQmNNW62o

This is v.s my outlaw sim:
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mcQbAf72NW2wEMESRbtbjc

I'm using aoe build in both sims (simming pure fight)

[dark token]

We haven't even done seeds once

And I'm over this boss

[gusty mirage]

Wait until you get the apes who double soak and wipe you

That’s top tier content

[dark token]

There are exactly 20 seeds and everyone needs to soak 1 yeah?

[polar cape]

16

[thorn fjord]

How far into p2 are you guys @gusty mirage

[gusty mirage]

We survived the first seeds

And then got ass fucked by the 2nd set

[burnt venture]

Why would you use an AoE build to sim Patchwerk?

[half dawn]

to sim tyran boss DPS

[gusty mirage]

Realistically if we have a good night tonight we can maybe see p3

[burnt venture]

What does that even mean

[half dawn]

to sim how each build compares in a M+ environment specifically for ST only bosses

[proven jasper]

Bro

[unique sorrel]

Just rip a dslice sim and call it a day

A majority of your key time is gonna be mobs anyway

[faint path]

I hope they nerf more dh

[half dawn]

Yeah agree, I did sim Dslice and it isn't looking great either
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kPvvGx9dybS52URgne9GNs

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kwmjNY6DaGPqvQbTDCuTJ9

That's why i did ST sim to see if perhaps assa will pull ahead in pure ST.

[burnt venture]

It’s likely that you lose more ST as Sin than OL by picking AoE talents. But just sim Dungo Slice

Something is severely wrong if you only sim 183k on dung slice. Don’t have 4pc? Did you swap your MH weapon? Something is off

I’m on mobile so can’t see shit but like

[half dawn]

Yeah let me send sc for you

[unique sorrel]

3 ilvl diff too

[unique sorrel]

No on use trinket for sin

[subtle tundra]

skill issue

[burnt venture]

Iirc I sim at like 260k dung slice as Sin

[sweet dawn]

4 set damage not showing in the damage breakdown?

For assa?

[burnt venture]

Not at pc so can’t check.

[sweet dawn]

Weird

[burnt venture]

But something way off there

Not sure what

[mighty nexus]

4 set shows as envenom

[quartz locust]

yeah somethings up with your gear/enchants, im a good bit lower ilvl than you

[sweet dawn]

Ah

I'm silly

[oak tangle]

wtf are you guys simming

[quartz locust]

dungeon slice, like a snapshot of a average M+

[half dawn]

i am using a lot of outlaw gear, so versa is too high, but still, i didn't expect it to sim 80k lower kekw

[burnt venture]

No shot it’s only gear

Something is way off

[gusty mirage]

so true bestie

[burnt venture]

Not gear

[spice spire]

DS is an outlaw’s wet dream since their damage is fairly flat. DS works on the axis of like 50% 8 target, 25% cleave, 25% ST.
Or maybe st and 8t is backwards.

Either way, it’s an arbitrary sim for arbitrary information. You could do 10t pw and change it up

[subtle tundra]

want stream so you can l2p?

[spice spire]

In the end

[gusty mirage]

sure thing man

[spice spire]

Just play what you want man

[gusty mirage]

we can hold dicks while wiping in p2

[spice spire]

Can I join

[gusty mirage]

no

[spice spire]

O

[gusty mirage]

stop trying to steal my romanian bf

[subtle tundra]

if we dont get deep into p3 today i will shit myself

[spice spire]

I don’t want him.
Just you man wtf

[subtle tundra]

i have received my SECOND mythic item yesterday, i was so happy

(the other rogue got like 5)

[half dawn]

yeah but idk what lol. gonna sim multi target PW now to see lmao

[burnt venture]

There is no shot at ~475 ilvl you should sim 108k ST and 183 DS

I don’t know what is wrong still looking

[faint path]

I hope they're gonna nerf fucking dhs more

[burnt venture]

This is bugging TF out of me. I can’t see shit on mobile ☠️

[quartz locust]

So wierd, the damage breakdown looks right, everything is just low as shit lol

[burnt venture]

Yeah I’m tilted

No way outlaw gear (heavy crit/vers) would make a 80k diff

Maybe like 30k tops

Not even that though probs

[raw raft]

There’s a few things on here that would explain why your simming less than a tank

[subtle tundra]

both sims have everything disabled

[burnt venture]

God bless you

Holy fuck

[quartz locust]

LOL

[burnt venture]

Sim run 18mins LOL

No rune, no buffs

👀

☠️

[noble mesa]

is the goal on dungeon bosses to always stay above 50% energy?

[raw raft]

Don’t play around sanguine blades just your 4p

[noble mesa]

I feel like swapping to the build that increases my range and losing vigor and tea tanks my dps so much

[subtle tundra]

sim run means it was done 20 min ago

[balmy condor]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[burnt venture]

Sim run 21mins on Sin lol

[burnt venture]

Ahhh fair lmfaooo am dumb

[balmy condor]

I mean, yeah? You’re taking away very good talents and hoping the range increase makes up for it

[thorn fjord]

Thats still pretty good

[gusty mirage]

I'm filing the lawsuit rn

[raw raft]

I don’t know what bleeding means on Raidbots but if it’s what I think it is then you definitely shouldn’t have it disabled

[gusty mirage]

this is a clear discrimination case against my boy varas

and I will not stand for it

[balmy condor]

It’s for a hunter talent

Doesn’t do shit for us

[raw raft]

Well then It’s not what I thought it was gg

[noble mesa]

Would you recommend just always taking tea and vigor? I definitely prefer it but it's also frustrating being zoned out by mechanics/storming

[subtle tundra]

if tindral drops the dagger and i dont get it, its gonna be a real loud case going on
i dont have 2nd nicholas after 50+ runs

[balmy condor]

Yes

[noble mesa]

tyvm

[raw raft]

Sin without tea monkas

👉 ⏰

[oak tangle]

how's ur head whispyr

[neat plank]

does mastery buff kingsbane initial hit dmg?

[balmy condor]

Better than this chat

[balmy condor]

Yes

[sweet dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/sherlock-holmes-watch-check-waiting-gif-14463840

POV: assa without tea, pooling for all eternity

[neat plank]

i've seen multiple people say Cumberbatch "looks like a foot"

[raw raft]

The other rogue in my guild said he wishes we could trade trinkets because he wants my ashes 😐like dam me too because I want your branch

[neat plank]

whatever that means

[eternal quail]

thoughts on taking Ashes of the Embersoul + Witherbark's Branch, using branch as recommended in the opener and procing ashes with damage at the same time, then never pressing ashes lmao

[crisp pine]

I mean he does

[grim jay]

wait there is something better than sin chat?

[neat plank]

how? I dont see it :p

[raw raft]

Outlaw chat

[burnt venture]

Yes

[grim jay]

double on-use sucky sucky

[burnt venture]

Cats and dogs of sin

Is better

[grim jay]

lies

[raw raft]

Well they’re talking about never using ashes

[eternal quail]

yeah but you never press the ashes on use, you just proc its once a combat thingy

[crisp pine]

Well take your socks off and hold your foot against your face
Then take a picture and dm me, you'll see

[raw raft]

Just the procs

[vagrant tapir]

so uhh

Whats up with this guy?

https://i.imgur.com/fHiPCQD.png

[loud hearth]

Should you use 2 tea charges in the opener during DM/KB, or only 1 for last 6s of KB?

Just thinking because you have tea at max charges during opener for a little while until <6s KB.

[vagrant tapir]

thats kinda interest

[raw raft]

Blue neck 😴

[grim jay]

well it tbf doesnt change the fact

and using only part of it makes it even worse

[balmy condor]

The fact that a human can say those words in that order in terrifying to me

[balmy condor]

Only ever 1

[grim jay]

I'll protect you and hold you

[quartz locust]

youre supposed to equip it to your manservant and have him follow you around and auto

[raw raft]

I feel like never use tea outside of kingsbane and so I’m definitely just wasting it but idek when to use it otherwise

[vagrant tapir]

Thinking healer really

cause

thats a decent chunk of mastery - ICD would be super relevant but

[hollow stone]

That neck has lower secondaries psure, those ratings look low even for that ilvl

I think its budgeted

[balmy condor]

It is

[vagrant tapir]

oh it definitely has lower stats

100%

[hollow stone]

Yea so meh

[balmy condor]

Shit ilvl budgeted neck

[main bison]

anyone who can help with log reviews?

[eternal quail]

you get +7.1k agi from ashes, + 5.7k mastery from branch in the opener. I mean any fight longer than 2 mins its dumb?

[balmy condor]

Okay and how are you proccing it

You gonna tell your raid to die on pull?

[eternal quail]

knowing the tank and cleaving yourself into cheat death

[sweet dawn]

Well I mean if he has a boomie, priest or hunter in the raid they kinda do that anyway, rivht?

[balmy condor]

That doesn’t proc it lmao

[dark token]

Ambush on opener before tank taunts

[eternal quail]

it doesnt proc when you drop to 15% hp or lower?

[balmy condor]

They changed it because people were cheesing exactly that

[eternal quail]

ahhh

[dark token]

What does it proc on now

[balmy condor]

Like 2/3rds of your raid dying

[eternal quail]

HAHA

[dark token]

Lol

[eternal quail]

ok forget everything I said

[balmy condor]

Wish I could

[raw raft]

Dam

[clever sapphire]

no worries blakadder, i cooked something that might work

it probably wont

[balmy condor]

Jesus ain’t enough to save you guys

Y’all need the combined might of every religious diety

[tawny geyser]

A guild that has 5/9 Mythic at the moment...what do you guys think they will mostly look at when I apply?
I'm having such a difficult time finding a serious/stable guild.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/71392296

[clever sapphire]

lets just assume my raid wants to lust second intermission on smolderon, do i "accidentally" use drums because i want lust first?

[eternal quail]

to be fair it would only be used to cheese normal raids for lols

[empty mauve]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[clever sapphire]

ya thats the same thing with my shitshow build

though im gonna try it on hc

[forest notch]

I was trying to find what causes it in talents but havent yet. What gives us like an absurb burst of energy generation after our CDs sometimes?

I feel like sometimes im fighting to not be at 300 energy

[raw raft]

Okay but non troll question, should I use my tea outside of kingsbane and if yes does it matter when

[eternal quail]

so it used to work xd

[balmy condor]

Fucking what

[raw raft]

[clever sapphire]

i was just memeing no worries

[forest notch]

[smoky leaf]

You have 1 you need to save per kingsbane and the other 2 are flex tea u can use whenever

[fringe idol]

Hey guys, is assassination still a meme in mythics, both low and high? Or it can be played without feeling like shit every other pull? Didn't play since 10.0

[calm ravine]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[balmy condor]

Yeah of course you should, you’re only burning one charge on the end of kb, so the other two charges are outside of cds for energy

[clever sapphire]

you can play it in a +2 and feel good

it works on all key lvls is what im getting at

[raw raft]

I mean idk about you but my guild would probably give me one time to use drums in a prog pull then I’d probably be kicked the next time lmfao

[half dawn]

sim was ran 18 minutes ago.

[eternal quail]

feels ok in 24's but thats as far as ive gone atm idk

[fringe idol]

By low I am talking about 10-15 range tbh

[burnt venture]

Yeah got that now lol my apologies

[balmy condor]

Yeah, it used to work (the first 2 weeks of ptr raid testing)

[half dawn]

but anyway

[clever sapphire]

its hc smolderon, reclear number 3 or so

[clever sapphire]

ya it works

[half dawn]

both sims had all buffs turned off

[clever sapphire]

and its not trolling

[fringe idol]

Good, thanks

[burnt venture]

What is it now with buffs on for both?

[half dawn]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uf8UcVDVoww6vWxDN344Cg

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ka2ocG78tG86ZNSo4xUvSw

[clever sapphire]

does anyone know if smolderon intermission circles oneshot you on hc?

[half dawn]

🤔

[burnt venture]

That is more like it

[clever sapphire]

or will i have to stand in fire to proc stonescales

[balmy condor]

??????????????????????????

[half dawn]

the dps is not improtant, the difference between two specs is lol

[slim hamlet]

finally offhadn

[raw raft]

Depends on gear I presume same as most possible one shots

[slim hamlet]

[burnt venture]

OL DS sims insane. For instance, for me OL sims 360k DS iirc, and Sin like 270k @half dawn

[balmy condor]

You can’t compare specs in sims

[eternal quail]

i mean it puts a nasty dot on you too

[clever sapphire]

ah you werent here yet, im tired of reclearing, so im gonna be running this shit and sepsis and try to burst first intermission on smolderon

[burnt venture]

What Whispyr said

[half dawn]

Is this a recent thing?

[vagrant tapir]

it's an always thing

[balmy condor]

I’m going back to bed man what the fuck

[clever sapphire]

[shut owl]

lol

[raw raft]

My havoc put that trinket on for Nymue prog unironically

[balmy condor]

Y’all are especially stupid today for some reason I can’t

[burnt venture]

For instance @half dawn look at Fuu sheet. You can’t compare on a 1:1 basis

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[forest notch]

The circles wont no but they put a dot on you that has to be basically focus healed so youre healz will hate you

[lofty junco]

https://i.imgur.com/NRfmFbh.png shit running since 30 minutes....

[eternal quail]

wouldnt want to dream of double on use, night..

[half dawn]

Yeah I saw it on FUU's sheets, and I was wonderign if outlaw was just overperforming on sims

[clever sapphire]

hmm, so you are telling me i will have to stand in fire for a bit because heals wont let me proc the trinket

[vagrant tapir]

Each sim is a representation of the spec it's made for, the apl is an attempt to represent the spec for the purposes of comparing inputs

The moment you try and compare across specs, the distortion present in each apl is amplified significantly

[balmy condor]

The fuck are you yapping about

Dungeonslice just sucks for assa as a fight type

[raw raft]

Honestly if there was another on use that was way better than the passives I wouldn’t mind having an on use to slam with kingsbane in between deathmark but with a good passive trinket no point

[balmy condor]

It ain’t that deep

Turns out a ramping burst spec doesn’t sim very high when it encounters a 20 second pull

And a spec with 0 burst does very well because it doesn’t care what you throw at it

[burnt venture]

In conclusion; you shouldn’t worry about the difference in OL DS vs Sin DS sims @half dawn

[raw raft]

Therefore

[burnt venture]

Sin is very capable of beating outlaw in overall damage done at end of dungeon. Esp if more than 8 mobs are pulled per pack kek

[forest notch]

Is it normal for me to do less than like big DHs/BMs, upfront dmg classes in like <= 20 keys due to this? Shit just dies sooooo fast

[raw raft]

Uh yeah

[wide ferry]

^^ yea

[raw raft]

Like always

🙂

[balmy condor]

That’s how that works yeah

[forest notch]

Im just trying to figure out when I suck or if its just I cant actually do dmg lol

No ones complained about my rogue dmg in keys yet though

[spice spire]

Talk your shit king

[forest notch]

so thats good

[spice spire]

Tell those frauds

[raw raft]

BM and havoc will probably beat you in every dungeon on every key level on every affix

[forest notch]

Wonder if BM or DH is better.

I need another alt

[eternal quail]

run off and tricks shit thats los'd to get 6 seconds of solo maintenance pre-burst before the dh kills it all in 2 seconds

[raw raft]

Dh

M+ supremacy

[forest notch]

I heard DH playstyle is hit or miss though

[vagrant tapir]

Even if you use patchwerk, every spec is not equally close to in-game performance

[clever sapphire]

equipp boon from season 1, now you will have upfront dmg

[forest notch]

but need to try it eventually I suppose

[wide ferry]

dh is boring af to play

[vagrant tapir]

its the same reason that tier set spreadsheet from ulria that you don't like isn't an effective tool

[forest notch]

Sin has actually been one of the more fun classes ive played in a long time.

[balmy condor]

There’s like 25 reasons why sims don’t reflect log data before you get to APL differences on patchwerk

The APL’s for every spec are more than capable of playing past the level of any human

They’re not the issue

[tough gorge]

Hoping the fact that BM and Havok being so good means assass gets less nerfs

[forest notch]

I mean we hardly got a nerf

[half dawn]

you mean more nerfs

[forest notch]

I havent even really noticed it tbh

I feel like you only notice the nerf if you are playing like super optimally and even then its small

[tough gorge]

Its still a nerf. Why would you wabt more nerfs for assass?

[plain mortar]

How do I go about someone reviewing my logs?

[stiff pivot]

As a tree, ill view your log

[burnt venture]

Type ! Logs with no space

[forest notch]

!logs

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[balmy condor]

[forest notch]

lol

[balmy condor]

Good one

[stiff pivot]

Ty

Love u

[burnt venture]

Got eem

[thorn hollow]

any assassination mains down to help me understand what im doing in a vc? brand new to rogue and only can do like 50-60 k where sim says i should do 95. I am also new to simming so I might not be understanding those numbers based on what Whispyr

said

[forest notch]

I would love to know why I did so bad on Mythic Gnarl though. I felt like my rotation was fine, maybe not like 90s but a grey 23 felt harsh. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/area-52/sneeakypete#boss=2820

If anyone did have a minute to take a peek.

No PI/Aug on me though I dont think.

[clever sapphire]

i just realised the free stealth ability from sepsis is gonna be kinda meh, since im using it inside shadowdance anyways

[stiff pivot]

Does your coaching have log reviewing

[smoky cobalt]

I feel like parsing in mythic is nightmare unless you pad

[vale lantern]

also just at a big disadvantage because your playing without PI and Aug buff comparing to others who are

[spice spire]

Sneaky Pete Log Review

[forest notch]

I just know my officers might ask and Id like to have an answer confidently. either, I just didnt focus on padding or I fucked up XYZ and will fix it.

[forest notch]

but like grey parse disadvantage?

[spice spire]

Going to try since I’m unretiring ig

[outer cairn]

check DMs

[stiff pivot]

Wait shouldn't your first global in SD/KB be garrote

On pull

[vale lantern]

depends this with missing a kingsbane or something else might i delayed second DM for execute phase last night and it took us to long to get 7% down and i parsed really low cause of it + not having PI

[forest notch]

Um I try to use it in either the first - third global but maybe thats wrong? I usually still have one running from opener

[stiff pivot]

I think you refresh it though

First global

[forest notch]

oh ya I do just not always first global (Though like I said this could be me doing it wrong?)

Whats the benefit of early refresh if it isnt in pandemic yet?

as long as I get it off in SD window

[slim pebble]

Whispyrs on a roll today. Probably a bad time to ask about stat weights (im kidding)

[stiff pivot]

Yeah number 12

[forest notch]

Doesnt opener Garrote have Nightstalker already though? Since you use from stealth?

[balmy condor]

I’m on the same bullshit I’m on every day it ain’t my fault the brains in here are particularly dented on this morning

[stiff pivot]

Idk I started rogue 2 weeks ago

[forest notch]

or do I not know what nightstalker is haha

[forest notch]

legit same LOL

[stiff pivot]

I just follow guide

Copy top logs

[bright cipher]

sometimes i wonder "are we going too far" with some changes.

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/noway-gif-254273188714127328

[crisp pine]

My opener is Garrote from Stealth, SD > Garrote > Vanish > Garrote

[stiff pivot]

Good

[balmy condor]

There’s plenty of times we find a gain and actively make a decision to not add it to the sim because it’s not playable

Happens constantly

[clever sapphire]

its night here already tho

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/based-dmc-gif-26587902

[stiff pivot]

Malacath cutie

[solid wagon]

Now if you add Tricks onto the DH or the BM, you can get them dead and you rank higher one spot in the dpsmeter

[stiff pivot]

YOOO

[bright cipher]

Screenshots it this evidence will be used in the tribunal for the judgments of crimes of sandbagging!

[stiff pivot]

Mala how u

[bright cipher]

❤️ tree!

[spice spire]

reads bio
Yeah this tracks

[stiff pivot]

Warlock is sandbagging too though

[outer cairn]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/right-to-jail-jail-parks-and-rec-right-away-fred-armisen-gif-16039907319194806297

[stiff pivot]

So is ww

[spice spire]

I like warlocks

[stiff pivot]

Me too

[bright cipher]

you have no proof of it!

[vale lantern]

what does it mean by pandemicing?

[stiff pivot]

True sor

[arctic socket]

Anyone got some advice on how to cope getting a Nicholas out of a 16 and not a 17

[vagrant tapir]

applying a debuff while 30% of it's duration is still remaining to add it to the new debuff

[balmy condor]

!pd

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[raw raft]

Just don’t do 16s ez game

[vagrant tapir]

10s debuff - 3s remaining, reapply the debuff and now its a 13s debuff

[slate crown]

HEy whispyr I was poking around and found out that if you alternate mutilate and ambush when Sophic procs, starting with mutilate / ambush / mutilate during dance, but flipped doing ambush / mutilate / ambush during dance AND DM when Wafting is procced ffrom your offhand you gain 55 dps if you are using ashes. Can you add this to the APL ktbx I think it's valuable the community has this information

[bright cipher]

jokes aside, currently demo apl adjusts its CD usage based on fight length so sometimes it cast tyrant on 2min, sometimes on tyrant cd and i wonder "man..can people actually play this effectively"

[stiff pivot]

Oh I have not been pandemicing lmao

I've been letting my empowered ones expire

[bright cipher]

but i guess at mythic initial killtimes are all fairly close

[vale lantern]

ahh okay thank you

[onyx scroll]

I think I'm in basically the same boat as Archer is. We did Igira last night and most of the group did blue/purple and I come in with green. I can't really figure out what I was doing wrong. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PdLZjCtb91MzfKXF#fight=33&type=damage-done&source=829&view=timeline

[crisp pine]

55 DPS?
That's like a 100% increase for me wtf

[stiff pivot]

Aren't you supposed to reapply garrote after vanish inside KB? Or just after vanish

[plain onyx]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[clever sapphire]

i suck at log reviews, but its a horrible kill time for you and priest is giving pi to shit huntard

[stiff pivot]

I'm not an expert but just from copying top logs they all garrote after vanish in KB and not rupture

[onyx scroll]

That's something I have to get better at

[stiff pivot]

You did rupture and no garrote

[onyx scroll]

sometimes I just send a rupture there and instantly regret it

[jade abyss]

Wtf is this critter picture xD

[dark token]

Try to time ur kingsbane and deathmark to start ~8s before spears go out

[stiff pivot]

Pretty sure most top logs just rupture before first one expires

[dark token]

U need to garrote extend opener lol

[outer cairn]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[dark token]

Also do accelerated opener on igira

[onyx scroll]

Ok that makes sense with how spears come out early

[stiff pivot]

What's the accelerated opener again

Garrote, snd,

That's all I know

[dark token]

Garrote snd, build to 5, envenom then do deathmark

And add the rupture during dance

[stiff pivot]

Do you rupture inside KB

Y3ah kk

[dark token]

Yes

Like KB garrote envenom ambush rupture

[stiff pivot]

Yeah that makes sense

[arctic socket]

Which opener does more damage

[stray mural]

Is there a number we should pool outside of cooldowns

[gentle belfry]

craft engi bracers for dps or life-bound for flavor pocket?

[arctic socket]

I think whispyr has a video about it

[arctic socket]

Where’s your toxic patch

[gentle belfry]

Belt

[arctic socket]

[fossil shell]

Have to when you use eng bracers

[gentle belfry]

[fossil shell]

Its just how the game goes

[balmy condor]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[arctic socket]

Do you want .1% damage or qol in keys

That’s the best way to answer that

[gentle belfry]

tough call

[arctic socket]

If you can afford it I would say flavor pocket to keep a perm food buff in keys

[faint path]

same 😄

[gentle belfry]

I needed to hear that ty

cant decide things for myself

[raven egret]

Might want to work on that

[gentle belfry]

🍼

[neat plank]

is that a blizzard employee?

[arctic socket]

It would be a female not a bottle

[echo island]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[gentle belfry]

everyone been feeling okay with sin on mythic prog this week? after nerfs

[stiff pivot]

you went from top spec to like top spec

i think sin is fine

[gusty mirage]

it's truly tragic

[proven jasper]

LMAO

so real

[gentle belfry]

LOL

[stiff pivot]

i main ww

buff put me from worst to worst

😎

[proven jasper]

Thats a personal issue

[gusty mirage]

yeah they forgot a 0 on the WW buffs

whats up with that

[stiff pivot]

yeah lmfao

[gusty mirage]

6% of 0 is 0 blizzard

[stiff pivot]

i still sim 30k lower than enhance buddy

smile

[gusty mirage]

bro idk how anyone at blizzard looked at the data

saw WWs doing tank damage

[stiff pivot]

my rogue is now 2k lower than my ww

[gusty mirage]

and were like "Yeah 6% fixes that"

[stiff pivot]

yeah they always fuck ww over

we're used to it lol

[gusty mirage]

they need to either fix SEF or remove it, and fix the fucking spec

green rogue is fun af

[stiff pivot]

monk is extremely fun

[neat plank]

why are you cheating in rogue discord? 😛

[stiff pivot]

my fotm alt

:)

[grim tree]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[neat plank]

I thought people only mained rogues

[stiff pivot]

i have been absolutely dogshit though at rogue lmao

[neat plank]

thats why 😛

[stiff pivot]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GrjcxHA19X4NwRdt#fight=66&type=damage-done

this was my only good kill

and i think pi was sent 10 seconds after CD's ended

love pugs

[arctic socket]

At least you got it

[stiff pivot]

yeah wtf is this timing

[arctic socket]

I play in a raid team without a evoker, shaman or priest

Send me help

[stiff pivot]

[earnest remnant]

@subtle tundra u still in evolve?

[wide whale]

so i've been wondering why i do so little damage in M+. i ran with my assassination friend who's actually good.

here's his breakdown, he pulled 220k dps

and this is mine at 147k dps

he had 21 KBs to my 14, but i also have no idea how he gets his ruptures and garrotes so high 😭

[stiff pivot]

without a log we cant really tell from details

what you're doping wrong

he had more KB windows

more empowered ruptures

[wide whale]

yeah for sure

50% more lol

[stiff pivot]

empowered garrotes

[distant peak]

Probably maximizing imp garrote

[arctic socket]

How did he have 21 casts of kb and you only had 14

[stiff pivot]

my friend taught me this

in keys

[wide whale]

because i'm new to dps and bad

[stiff pivot]

just send on cd

dont hold

[distant peak]

Don’t send sd and vanish with kb on trash most of the time

[wide whale]

i usually heal. i save healer CDs for when shit needs healing. im trying to break out of this mindset for dps

[stiff pivot]

ya just send it

unless pack is about to die

[subtle tundra]

yes!

[earnest remnant]

are you filling out your questionair?

lmfao

[subtle tundra]

i had to answer 19 questions today

about tindral p2 and p3

[earnest remnant]

i saw it

[stiff pivot]

gross wtf

[subtle tundra]

damn is it public knowledge nowadays

[earnest remnant]

think it might be leaked around a bit

[subtle tundra]

yea we have funny lads in the guild

[left sundial]

macro

[stiff pivot]

pollo

[arctic socket]

Messages went bye bye

[fickle viper]

aah hello my fellow warlock-abandoner-rogue-enjoyer

[subtle tundra]

only thing i noticed was that i studied more for the boss than for my exam next week

[ornate pier]

does PI buff our poisons/bleeds right?

making it similar to unholy dk gargoyl ?

[wide whale]

boss will be here forever, exam wont!

[proven jasper]

pi helps buff our poison applications which is what directly increases kb damage

[arctic socket]

Ask for pi to crank your KB window

[forest notch]

We only have 1 PI sadly and have an unholy DK, BM hunter in group so sadly I will never get it.

[arctic socket]

Haste = more autos = more poison applications

[wide whale]

what are ya'll sitting at for haste? i asked this last week but i can't remember

[proven jasper]

Dont worry about ur haste values

Just ilvl>

[arctic socket]

What ever the robot tells you

[stiff pivot]

sim will tell you what piece of gear to equip

[arctic socket]

(Personally I’m at 16% with the wep runes

[burnt venture]

I’m 25% and still wants me adding haste

Will differ by char

[wide whale]

can you sim consumes?

in Top Gear section?

[arctic socket]

[wide whale]

hot damn you got some haste

stabby boi

[runic hinge]

Yummy haste zoom zoom

[stiff pivot]

my stats are NOT optimized

[rugged sphinx]

the kingsbane macro on icyveins (sd + kb) doesn't work sometimes ive noticed

[gusty mirage]

I like turtles

[gusty mirage]

KB is on the GCD, so if you push it mid GCD it won't kingsbane

[stiff pivot]

have to be able to hit mob

[gusty mirage]

you'd have to press it twice in that case

[stiff pivot]

with KB

oh yeah GCD too

[gusty mirage]

cause dance is off GCD and KB is on

it can get a lil funky

[rugged sphinx]

yeah i think its the GCD

[wide whale]

i've definitely been like 2 yards out of range and popped the macro

and only have SD go off

then wonder why my dps sucked that pull

[arctic socket]

What is sd

[forest notch]

Is there any argument that can be made for giving rogue PI in opener against DK/BM? and then giving to them later? or are they just always better (assuming they good players and play at a decently optimal level)

[wide whale]

shadow dance

[stiff pivot]

shadow

dance

[royal lantern]

thats thew golden rule for almost everything

[stiff pivot]

do more damage than them without pi

[royal lantern]

dont think too hard

just send shit

[stiff pivot]

then say

[arctic socket]

I feel very for asking that

[stiff pivot]

imagine if i HAD pi

[forest notch]

but do we? haha I thought they do more. Im just using Bloodmallet as my source though so not sure how accurate.

[forest notch]

haha ya true

If I can out dmg them

[slim hamlet]

!string

[fervent jasper]

So with the hybrid build, is our boss damage supposed to be shit?

[forest notch]

without PI

its mineeeeeee

[stiff pivot]

ya

[slim hamlet]

Isn't there some command for consumable strings?

[stiff pivot]

play better

ez

[forest notch]

lol

[stiff pivot]

like me on my WW

i was top boss damage on gnarlroot heroic this week

[arctic socket]

Ww seems like a meme spec

[stiff pivot]

u

[wide whale]

i got out dps'd by a WW

hopped off for the day

[stiff pivot]

check this lol

1 sec

[arctic socket]

Single target or aoe?

[wide whale]

overall dungeon dmg

was a sad day

[stiff pivot]

boss damage

i immediately talked shit to my guildies

[wide whale]

gyat dam

[crisp pine]

And people say windwalker is dead

[arctic socket]

What parse did you hit with that

[forest notch]

haha this is a GREAT WW fight though.

[stiff pivot]

99

it is lmao

[slim hamlet]

so we are unironically rerolling ww?

[stiff pivot]

nooo

its a trap trust me

[wide whale]

quick change the discord

we're monks now

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/poe-path-of-exile-login-play-poe-login-gif-26508840

[forest notch]

LOL

[arctic socket]

Show the

[stiff pivot]

overall?

[crisp pine]

Already deleted my rogue

[forest notch]

mmmm POE

[slim hamlet]

based

[forest notch]

oh shit new league tomorrow

gahhh

[arctic socket]

Poe is fun

[forest notch]

I have too much games to play

[wide whale]

big hype new league tomorrow, smol hype im on vacation for 3 weeks and effectively miss the whole league

[forest notch]

but POE league looks crazyyyy

so much meta shift

[stiff pivot]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/169yBDNThQV7Xt2w#fight=8&type=damage-done

[wide whale]

i miss ULTIMATUM RETURN

[stiff pivot]

in case you wanted to see

[wide whale]

😭

[royal lantern]

new league tomorrow

https://tenor.com/view/poe-path-of-exile-kekflask-kek-reroll-poe-reroll-gif-26438198

[slim hamlet]

alright nvm

we free

[forest notch]

Im more excited for the crazy meta shift

and Lab hype again???

lol

[wide whale]

honestly, them hiding MORE shit behind lab was a bad idea

[stiff pivot]

i told you lol

[arctic socket]

You do be parsing

[wide whale]

i fucking hate labs

[stiff pivot]

thank u threshm

i did bad on mythic gnarlroot though

had to stay back as melee for 1 extra soak

during damage phase

[arctic socket]

Fucked

[stiff pivot]

but im a monk so whatever

[arctic socket]

Trash player

[lofty junco]

lol got kicked from the heroic group cause i mentioned that someone rolled for pip trinket. and then they come up with stupid reasons like "cause u are a idiot"

[stiff pivot]

im also duck duty man

[forest notch]

I might like it more if its more rewarding and I dont need to keep 70 billion helm types on me and be an enchant encylopedia to profit from it

[arctic socket]

I want a pip trinket

[wide whale]

IS THAT NOT GAMEPLAY?! 😂

[lime crypt]

can i get some pro tips about gnarlroot?

[stiff pivot]

yeah

[lime crypt]

do you guys align cds or do you blast from start?

[stiff pivot]

send on pull

the damage amp is usually at 2m

[wide whale]

i blast from the start but i'm also really bad at this class so maybe dont take my advice

[lime crypt]

ayt

[stiff pivot]

i also try to reapply garrote and rupture while boss is "immune"

so i can blast faster on damage amp

jsut go right into CDs

[vale lantern]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[lime crypt]

what about trinkets?

i reckon signet is not worth into first bosses

(heroic)

[wide whale]

qq - is it worth farming the second hero track Nick of Time? or should i fix my damn rings

[lime crypt]

cuz it just dies

[stiff pivot]

i run branch and sandglass

also

but its all i have :)

[lime crypt]

is it cuz you dont have signet then?

[stiff pivot]

tbh im not sure if signet would be good on gnarlroot

you need to maintain stacks

[royal lantern]

gnarlroot also just

you know

explodes

[stiff pivot]

real

[quartz locust]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-meme-gif-25742319

[royal lantern]

signet needs 30work days until it does dmg

[lime crypt]

i heard somwehere that you need for boss to stay alive 5 minutes atleast in order to be good ye?

[strange python]

Sim it but likely a mythic dagger from Igira will sim higher than a 483 nick of time dagger. At least it did for me until I got my 489 in vault yesterday

[unique sorrel]

Mine did not

[royal lantern]

eh, idk about the time, but it does need some time too ramp up until it starts beeing actually really good

[unique sorrel]

Max’d champ track still beat out the myth dagger by a tad

[slim hamlet]

For me it was 4+ minutes before heroic signet did more than myth pips

[unique sorrel]

Not ripping aspects for a tiny little change

[slim hamlet]

Guessing it is even less at myth signet

[royal lantern]

imagine having either

[strange python]

wtf. A 2nd dagger simmed like 600-700 dps lower vs a maxed mythic igira dagger for me and having a 483 nick already

[royal lantern]

[wide whale]

how do i "copy" my MH hero track NoT to sim it in my OH as well?

[strange python]

Greetings Kingsbane enjoyers

[slim hamlet]

Imagine not having both

https://tenor.com/view/xdd-xdding-cat-cute-cursed-gif-27104766

[royal lantern]

atleast i have a mythic track branch

the 1 good thing from vault lol

[slim hamlet]

gear compare

[unique sorrel]

Imagine getting a good vault

I’m gonna miss my fucking 2 box mythic tonight too

Verizon broke my internet

[slim hamlet]

I blame blizzard for me not being full bis yet

[cinder quartz]

https://lorrgs.io/

[slim hamlet]

servers shut down 5 min before our raid

[quartz locust]

do compare gear and add it as 483

[wide whale]

bless, ty

[lime crypt]

you sir deserve a medal

[royal lantern]

@slim hamlet i dont get pi for smoldy

BM managed too gaslight the raidlead

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-aware-twitch-forsen-emote-gif-25354609

[wide whale]

omg that parse comparing website is insanely cool

[thorn fjord]

Lorgs is goated

[slim hamlet]

you are goated

[wide whale]

baaa

[cinder quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-loves-you-gif-11457808257272204024

[forest notch]

For gnarlroots 100% debuf, Should I just send DM + KB immediately? Or do I still want to get up a garrote + rupture + envenom first?

[slim hamlet]

u should be able to get it up before it actually becomes active

[cinder quartz]

just make sure your last KB tick is before the 20 seconds runs out

[forest notch]

well depends how much im paying attention to mechanics haha

[slim hamlet]

ranged issue

[forest notch]

ie. one pull last night I got stuck in a soak

cause ranged ran by me

nice guy

[thorn fjord]

not at this age unfortunately

[slim hamlet]

Even then it is 20 seconds dmg amp

[cinder quartz]

there's no accounting for doing the right thing for the raid

[slim hamlet]

u should never have problem

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/boomer-alert-speaker-alarm-gif-15124610

[forest notch]

lol

[cinder quartz]

if you're finding yourself running late, my feelscraft is that it's better to KB first and worry about buffs/ddebuffs later

[forest notch]

ya

[cinder quartz]

anything to get last KB in the damage amp

[forest notch]

so worst case just send it

but if I have the time, which I should in most cases prep it

[rustic hornet]

Ya’ll still use vanish in the last 2-3 seconds of KB in aoe m+?

[forest notch]

I dont usually except bosses

[cinder quartz]

i personally don't but im a scrub

[forest notch]

just so I have vanish up to get stealth

if needed

[royal lantern]

mostly using vanish for utility on trash

like

aoe silence

getting aoe dots up

[cinder quartz]

mid-pull iron wire is goated

[forest notch]

ya exactly

the AOE silence is hugeeee

[rustic hornet]

Thanks guys

[forest notch]

so good

[rustic hornet]

Also finally got my witherbark

But its champion

Rip

[forest notch]

still good

[cinder quartz]

silly trinket sims better at champion than any other trinket at 489

[royal lantern]

well

its 341235ß915430ß153150ßk mastery

every 2min

[runic basin]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[fickle viper]

swapping to assa on tindral, miss him already https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1063381924808241184/1182386616669581403/image.png?ex=65848259&is=65720d59&hm=935dfebf0ccd94422a6768a1fcde9a9a042edf567bb75a015fb40c26488ef96b&

[slim hamlet]

german spotted

[royal lantern]

i just spammed numbers

[slim hamlet]

eszett from numbers?

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[vestal wren]

german keyboard

ß is after 0

[slim hamlet]

That letter is just randomly at numbers

Well I guess it is

[slim hamlet]

wait

Wtf is that layout

z in the middle

and a whole button just for ü

[vestal wren]

ß was used commonly in writing, but then they did reform it and now you use ss instead in many cases

qwertz is the german layout

[slim hamlet]

z in the middle looks hyper cursed

But I guess that is the same as aa becoming å for danish

but just other way around

[royal lantern]

wait, thats NOT normal???

that maybe explains why so many people here acted confused when i said "my trinket is on Z"

[slim hamlet]

Well

My trinket is on Z too

[vestal wren]

english has z and y exchanged

[slim hamlet]

z is down left of s

[vestal wren]

i use both, i am a maniac

[fallow acorn]

Z is cloak, duh

[slim hamlet]

cloak is shift + 1

[worthy heart]

shift+t is cloak

[slim hamlet]

clearly

[royal lantern]

and ofc we have a button for Ü, its a used letter lol

[forest notch]

shift + \ is cloak obviously

[worthy heart]

and obviously shift b is evasion

[vestal wren]

6 is cloak

or t

[slim hamlet]

Yes but would expect it to be with the modifiers like most modified letters

[worthy heart]

6 is vanish

[queen egret]

If you have both ashes and wintersbark, when do you send each trinket?

[vestal wren]

i thin its t for me

[slim hamlet]

¨ + U = ü

[vestal wren]

6 is evasion

[royal lantern]

Ä Ö and Ü all haver their own key

[slim hamlet]

Wait idek why I was confused

because that is legit the exact same spot our å is

Still just expected it to be english keyboard and using ¨ as modifier for it

[royal lantern]

you dont use both at once if you mean that, double active is not good for assa

if you mean how you use the trinkets, branch on deathmark, ashes on kingsbane if you wanna macro it

[slim hamlet]

smh not doing it optimally

macro enjoyers

[royal lantern]

mate, i take that 0,4% hit for convinience lol

[queen egret]

but branch > Ashes on aoe?

[thorn fjord]

Unless you're on smold

and playing sub

my bad didnt see the end of your sentence

[vast shuttle]

Hi guys i have currently played for 1 week and have around 1k rating in pvp and idk how too get better or what too do. Iam on dummies i do around 110k dmg and when i go 3v3 i do around 30-50k so soemthing seems off. And is their any trick too climb more or too practice

i have rot graph aswell

[thorn fjord]

#pvp

[vast shuttle]

mb

[thorn fjord]

Not many pvp chads in here

[royal lantern]

im assa on smoldy

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[spice spire]

#pvp

Fuck I was beat

Sorry king

Didn’t mean to double ping

[wide ferry]

finally.....got the fucking dagger

[gusty mirage]

yikes

[slim hamlet]

This is why u are retired

[wide ferry]

24 runs boys

[spice spire]

Not for long bozo

[wide ferry]

now......we can finally play the game aka i need one more fuck me

[slim hamlet]

u back?

[vestal wren]

not the first one i hear that from

[thorn fjord]

hell yeah.. The return of the king?

[spice spire]

You’ve been sentenced to 78 more runs

[gusty mirage]

people hate doing damage

it's wild

[queen egret]

Is ashes or branch better on AOE?

[spice spire]

You know the meme where it’s the guy celebrating like he won but in reality he’s like fifth place

It’s the return of that guy

[vestal wren]

it is more that many ignored sub (as always during the hype phases)

and now would need to learn it

[gusty mirage]

sub is cozy

I like it

fuck shadowdust

but it aint that bad

[slim hamlet]

not like assa is far behind

if u dislike sub

[gusty mirage]

it was 5% behind before the nerf

[spice spire]

Different niche

[gusty mirage]

lol

[spice spire]

It’s a sub fight

100%

[vestal wren]

yes, the fight timing is just terrible for everyone

[slim hamlet]

So from best spec to 3rd best

[thorn fjord]

man i was trying to tell you this

[vestal wren]

and perfect for sub

[slim hamlet]

damn dogshit

[thorn fjord]

And you gave me a hard time

[gusty mirage]

that means best case scenario

you're now 5.9% worse than sub on smolderon

[vestal wren]

it would be bad if sub would be bad on the fight with how well cooldowns align

[gusty mirage]

6% is significant

[slim hamlet]

Yes it matters

[gusty mirage]

yall fucking did 100 galakronds falls for 1% dps

[slim hamlet]

But at the same time u have a mage in your group anyways

[gusty mirage]

and you're refusing to play the better spec on smolderon

absolutely wild

[slim hamlet]

I will prob play sub

[spice spire]

Spit

[thorn fjord]

Im 100% playing sub on that fight

[eternal quail]

Anyone know if we can make Ambush > Mutilate macros?

I find when playing with not local ping I can hit ambush near the end of Dance not get it off.
Takes half a sec to see it hasn't cast and then press Mutilate, throwing a global into the wind.

Being able to spam an Ambush > Mutilate macro at the top of each generator global to make it so if Dance doesn't register as being up, Mutilate would instead be cast would save the awkward half sec of hitting a generator that hasn't cast and reaching for the other.

I can't seem to make anything that will either try to cast Ambush but instead cast Mutilate if it can't. OR check to see if dance is up.

[subtle tundra]

didnt even want to play smolderon

[slim hamlet]

But it's not like you are hard inting if u dislike sub

[royal lantern]

yikes somewhere else

i aint gonna play shit dust sub

[vestal wren]

no need for macros anyore

[royal lantern]

fix the spec, then i think about it

[thorn fjord]

ITS NOT THAT BAD BROTHER

[spice spire]

I’ve seen the dust logs

[gusty mirage]

@royal lantern don't listen to him

he plays outlaw

[spice spire]

I’m the most OTP here and I’d debate playing dust for the fight

[gusty mirage]

it is that bad

[thorn fjord]

[royal lantern]

i dont care

make me swap

[eternal quail]

but mutilate is still castable during dance

[royal lantern]

oh wait you cant

[ember mural]

[gusty mirage]

that's what you think

check your closet

and you'll find me

[spice spire]

L bozo

[gusty mirage]

he only messages/pings me when he wants to yell at me

[woven frost]

Add your ambush on the same spot/keybind on your stealth bar as mut is on non-stealth bar

[vestal wren]

fair, could do a stance macro if you only want to cast ambush

[spice spire]

He only messages me when he wants to give me things. And I just want him to be happy

[gusty mirage]

I'll give you something buddy

[ember mural]

@gusty mirage

[vestal wren]

/cast [stance:0] Mutilate; Ambush```

[spice spire]

At least someone got me 🫡

[ember mural]

@spice spire

[vestal wren]

something like this, if i didn't make a typo

[gusty mirage]

damn what a throwback

[neat plank]

is this going to prevent me from losing a cast when stances change?

[quartz locust]

never had issues with it

[neat plank]

I removed ambush from my stealth bar cause it was pissing me off so much

[forest notch]

what is each stance here?

is there a stance for the 3 seconds after you come out of stealth?

or does that not count as a stance

[thorn fjord]

I still havent bothered getting rid of stealth bar

[hollow stone]

I dont understand, you always want to push ambush if you can over mutilate

[gusty mirage]

they're all stealth now, but back in the day each version of stealth had a dif stance number

[thorn fjord]

But i should

[gusty mirage]

so stealth vs dance had dif stance numbers

[quartz locust]

i think its reg stealth, vanish stealth, and sd

[eternal quail]

based, ty

[forest notch]

I think one is still different no? I made a macro the other day and still had to do stance 1/2 for it to work properly

[quartz locust]

ive had the macro for a long ass time

[eternal quail]

thought i tried that already

[quartz locust]

and it still works fine

[gusty mirage]

I do not use the difference stance ones and mine works fine but if you're running into issues flip's macro will 100% work

[thorn fjord]

did you get rid of your stealth bar Oxi?

[gusty mirage]

of course

what do I look like

[neat plank]

a master rogue

[gusty mirage]

you think I have time for action bar paging?

I'm too busy wiping to tindral

I hope they hotfix 2 more feathers today for shiggles

I just want to keep relearning feather positioning

it's fun

[forest notch]

Oh I just made my stealth bar the same, didnt know you can just remove it

how you do that?

[gusty mirage]

you need an action bar addon

[thorn fjord]

What do you use to remove stealth bar

[gusty mirage]

like bartender or elvui's action bars

elv

[forest notch]

Ahh

[thorn fjord]

Where the fuck is that option

[gusty mirage]

it's like under "additional settings" or some shit

[cobalt shuttle]

hey guys, just looking to confirm but aparently vers has value now for us?

[gusty mirage]

it like [bonusbar:7] or something

you delete that and click okay

[thorn fjord]

Ok cool ty

[gusty mirage]

yeppers, all stats are good for assa especially as you get more gear

speaking of elv

when is blizzard going to give default action bars the ability to disable action bar paging

so I can finally never use that piece of shit addon again

(:

[royal lantern]

based

fuck elv ui

and lmao who thinks its good

[thorn fjord]

Ahh

[cursive owl]

gnarloot nhc first epic logs ♥ im proud to get used to my rogue ^-^

[gusty mirage]

I'm a big fan of losing 100 fps because elv is a bloated piece of shit

[gusty mirage]

you're gaming

[spice spire]

Huge logs

[dark token]

its more like 20

but ye

i redid my ui without elv didnt notice much diff tbf

[thorn fjord]

I dunno my game runs at 144 most the time

[dark token]

just disabling certain elv modules like raidframes

[gusty mirage]

it's legit just hinging on action bar paging for me

[dark token]

helped 10 fps already

[gusty mirage]

if I could do that on default I'd just hard swap default

[dark token]

wdym paging, like the stealthbar?

[gusty mirage]

ye

I've played with it disabled for like 5 years

[dark token]

you can just not use the bar 1

and put all ur binds on bars 2-6

[thorn fjord]

I gotta go back to having 2 keybinds for mut and amb

[dark token]

it wont action bar page

anything except bar 1

[vapid sierra]

Dude in agreement

elv eats up so much fps and everyone says it’s a weak auras issue or wtv

[dark token]

also im sure you can replace it with dominos or bartender to do the same thing

[thorn fjord]

Wdym

[gusty mirage]

yo that's fucking genius

[thorn fjord]

So you set your binds to bar 2-3 instead of 1

[dark token]

yes