assassination

[stable ether]

[lyric grail]

I got leech 2x xd

[shell quail]

Holy fark

[earnest marsh]

can you guys share your branch macros mine is not working properly

[pseudo hamlet]

#showtooltip Deathmark
/cast Deathmark
/use Witherbark's Branch

[earnest marsh]

ty had a typo

[storm forum]

I've been helping recruit a bit this tier, and the recruitment discord has been decent too.

[drifting cosmos]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[quiet oar]

Warcrsftlogs is a good side to for recruiting

Thsts what i heard from a recruiter

[rotund oak]

disgusting 😅

[oak tangle]

fair, i guess we're more looking for people to come to us rather than chasing people

[golden spoke]

Hi guys can you tell me what exactly timestrike does?

[royal lantern]

the short version or the long version

[storm forum]

can someone tell me too? i actually have no idea how it works besides randomly does between 0.4% and 1.2% of my damage

[keen spruce]

a chance to do a tiny amount of damage whenever you do anything

[storm forum]

long version

[keen spruce]

basically

[balmy condor]

it's multistrike

you deal damage

[royal lantern]

basicaly multistrike

[balmy condor]

it procs

[storm forum]

i wasnt alive when multistrike existed

[balmy condor]

deals a fraction of that damage

3 seconds later

[royal lantern]

small chance too do a part of the dmg that proced it again, 10% dmg iirc

[storm forum]

ok neat

[kindred carbon]

I hate it when these tanks chain pull and I cant restealth

[keen spruce]

I don't

makes the dugneon go faster

key gets timed more reliably

[kindred carbon]

yeah then they flame me for my damage because I cant spread dots

[keen spruce]

then they dumb

[royal lantern]

maybe press shadowdance or vanish

or spread manualy

[storm forum]

ok, I tried the no AoE cleave build

holy shit does it feel bad if there are chain pulls

[kindred carbon]

Just had a tank be giga angry because I politely asked him to just not chain pull every 2ish packs and he said "learn your class" like bitch

[quiet oar]

You are not drunk anymore

[balmy condor]

I ate food

[quiet oar]

I see

[storm forum]

i hope youre feeling better mr whispyr

[balmy condor]

If we type a little slower

It's very doable

[indigo mulch]

He did a line of the white stuff.

[quiet oar]

Im really glad that im EU

[indigo mulch]

Ez sobber up

[quiet oar]

and can experience Drunkspyr in the morning

[royal lantern]

i mean, i dont wanna sound rude

but yeha, he is not that wrong, just a dick about it

it doesnt matter if you stealth or not

spitefull is like

w/e for assa

great for sub, actually a big gain in aoe

shit for outlaw cus they actually get fucked somewhat harder for no stealth

[scarlet orbit]

i dont mind chainpulling on both assa/outlaw but i dont like the feel when a tank pulls always with just one mob alive which dies like 1 sec later

[royal lantern]

yeha, thats a shit tank

[quiet oar]

Yeah

Tanks that chainpull at 10% mob health

are just dumb

Wannabe mdi tanks

[empty lava]

idk i have 3060 rio which is pretty low and sometimes i feel like im trolling not playing outlaw in keys

or maybe its demon hunter depressing effect

[royal lantern]

take that Humblebrag BS somewhere else

[indigo mulch]

[storm forum]

yeah i got my 2.5k today

now i feel bad

thanks a lot

idk where im going with this

[quiet oar]

Wow grubi

You made Lanille sad

Shame on you

[indigo mulch]

Shame shame!

[empty lava]

i mean i was top1 on my realm playin only assa in keys and outluls are like 3250+ already

[indigo mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/shame-go-t-game-of-thrones-walk-of-shame-shameful-gif-4949558

[empty lava]

[white temple]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[storm forum]

:<

[empty lava]

fucking demon hunters breaking my mental health

[kind forge]

[quiet oar]

Demon Hunter having more DMG on Vines than on Tindral

[royal lantern]

sanest m+ andy

[quiet oar]

[storm forum]

all the DHs in my guild died, or something, havent done a key with a havoc in 2 weeks

[quiet oar]

Do you play another game

[storm forum]

no, one just went to SEA for... dubious sounding reasons

and idk where the other one went, they show up for raid and then go radio silent

[royal lantern]

started a stardew valley save with a friend 1 1/2 weeks ago

allready in winter year2

[storm forum]

i was playing stardew a bunch this week, got to year two but now idk

im back here shitposting or something

[quiet oar]

okok guys

dont hate me

[royal lantern]

my first duck was Named Shmeeps

he earned it

[quiet oar]

I never played Stardew

[storm forum]

wtf

I named my first duck Shmeeps

oops

[royal lantern]

[storm forum]

[quiet oar]

I mean you were not wrong with the unedited post

[storm forum]

its ok if youve never played stardew

its just chill farm simulator 17

have they made chill farm simulator with waifus yet?

[keen spruce]

there were 2 rogues already in my guild when i joined. they both quit when I arrived. we recruited another one before abberus. they quit after experiements. we recruited 2 more going into this tier. one has yet to make it to a raid and the other is now an aug evoker.

and we just recruited another one

[storm forum]

i just realized that has to be a popular game but i cant remember

[keen spruce]

we'll see how long they last

I think i'm cursed

[royal lantern]

you scare them

[keen spruce]

but i do get free daggies

[storm forum]

Shmeeps is too powerful

scares away the lesser rogues

all hail shmeeps

[quiet oar]

I mean

Shmeeps has also the advantage

[normal mist]

So you're the only rogue in your guild? Just like me, can't even have someone to compete with

[quiet oar]

On Council

Cant be polymorphed to a duck if you are already a duck

[keen spruce]

I have another duck enjoyer in my raid

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-flop-lazy-relax-gif-966094601671833886

[keen spruce]

a DH

he's doing the Designated ducking with our aug

and very excited about it

[storm forum]

Me and the other rogue are like polar twins or something. We're both Rogue/Priest mains and refuse to play the specs we don't like. He's OL/Sub/Holy and I'm Sin/Disc/Shadow.

my raid is full of duck enjoyers

[ancient rain]

am I missing anything?

[keen spruce]

I always stealth ahead of council trash

do the RP

and get a picture of myself as a duck

[storm forum]

pips?

[keen spruce]

to post in guild chat

[storm forum]

LMAO

[keen spruce]

while they're clearing trash

[ancient rain]

time to get pip

[keen spruce]

we technically have 3 now? but who knows

one has been on the roster but has been gone since the start of the tier

and the other we just got and i'm not sure if they're comin in or not

[storm forum]

man i coulda

been in shmeep's guild

free daggers

[keen spruce]

[naive rock]

at ilvl 478 what would you expect your overall dmg to be in 20-25?

[oak eagle]

does Rupture snapshot off of Nightstalker?

[keen spruce]

why u not in shmeeps guild

[keen spruce]

ye

[oak eagle]

so thats why your first finisher is rupture and not slice then?

[storm forum]

im waiting for the optimal time to leave my guild for maximum damage

[keen spruce]

somewhere between 150k and 400k depending on the dungeon and comp

[surreal citrus]

doing this on raid night

[keen spruce]

ye

[naive rock]

alright i dont think ive ever gone higher than 215k with an aug

so i am def doing something wrong

[keen spruce]

well the 400ks are like

everbloom

where half of the dungeon is damage amp'd

215k maybe a little low with aug but like

so many variables

[naive rock]

I feel like i shouldnt be losing to an unholy dk

[keen spruce]

SO many

[surreal citrus]

m+ dungeon damage can very massively it's not a metric you can apply just across the board

vary*

[keen spruce]

yeah details not a great assessment of m+ performance

[naive rock]

details taught me im dog shit at the new outlaw xd

[keen spruce]

better to look at like... how did my CDs line up with this route. could I have moved some things around to time things up better with big packs or bosses

did I ever just woopsies CD windows

any deadgers

[surreal citrus]

the dungeon itself, group comp, tank habits, affixes, externals etc

[keen spruce]

yadda yadda

[surreal citrus]

I find myself holding kb and dm too much on packs tbh

dm especially

[keen spruce]

if you're havin trouble with what buttons to press go smack some target dummies

[naive rock]

yeah i def hold deathmark 2 much

[keen spruce]

if you're worried abotu key performance, it's proably other factors

yeah good general rule

is hold nothing ever

[wild marsh]

what we wanna craft this week? have boots and wrist

[keen spruce]

just fkin send it

[naive rock]

like in raid for mythic im going for 70-90 parses

[keen spruce]

unless like you KNOW you need it on the next boss or pull within a few seconds

especially the KB outside of DM

just rip that shit

i'll send that bitch into an everboom flower

[surreal citrus]

tbh whatever your lowest slot that needs filling is

[storm forum]

I need to do more dungeons, I keep miss timing my DMs, thinking i have more or less time before the next boss

like im set for Fall cause ive done it a million times

[keen spruce]

well like

[storm forum]

but all the others idk whats going on

[keen spruce]

often

you can just count a normal pull as ~1m

maybe 45s

but round up

so I'll deathmark 2 pulls ahead of a boss

but not one

and other than that

just fkin send it

maybe hold it for the start of the next pack if stuff is dying

and you know you're gonna pull something substantial

in like 5-10s

[storm forum]

thats too cerebral for my tiny brain

[naive rock]

would you recommend doing sin in m+ over outlaw?

[keen spruce]

that's why u just send it

[storm forum]

lets go i love sending it

[keen spruce]

also, auxilliary benefit

[surreal citrus]

sin is gr8 in m+

[keen spruce]

your mushy brained aug evokers

will sync up their shit with your better

if your'e not holding CDs

cuz if you're camping on a deathmark for too long. that priest or aug is gonna get antsy

[storm forum]

just had a couple dungeons today where I def could have had 2 DMs and 3 KBs, but instead had 1 DM and 3 KBs

[keen spruce]

and send their shit on the other dps

[static glacier]

all ima say

[storm forum]

dungeon bosses*

[static glacier]

is that holding last dm for p2 smolderon

was the correct decision this week

[keen spruce]

I think OL is more popular and doin slightly higher keys

[surreal citrus]

going to try double on use for smold this week

[keen spruce]

but like

you're askin assas channel

so the answers are gonna be a little biased

[static glacier]

about to start smol M prog probably next raidnight

[static glacier]

honestly? for the average player, no

outlaw is imo a little better in keys

[storm forum]

Sin vs OL is a question of how likely are you to develop carpal tunnel

[static glacier]

real question is who here has done 20s as sub

it's honestly not as bad as representation makes it out to be

[broken hatch]

I would say outlaw is tankier and easier than sin but sin is way more fun imo and I do more dmg as sin

[cunning scaffold]

If the other 2 rogue specs didn’t exist, sub would be fine in keys I think

[storm forum]

at some point feint wont be enough for me to live everything

and im never pushing that high

[static glacier]

I think there's an argument that can be made that sub is fine generaly

the boss dmg for me was a step above sin

[royal lantern]

prepare for waves

[storm forum]

[hollow vessel]

Go outlaw for m+ you are doing pew pew during the whole dungeon

[royal lantern]

but then you play Outlaw

🤢

[static glacier]

my details name for rashok was surf's up, might have to bring it back

[surreal citrus]

outlaw is very fun but I'm ready to take a break now that ass is viable for m+ again also I love the spec flavor wise 👌

[low phoenix]

Hey there, is the Cruel Dreamcarver worth useing and What is the benefint u get from using it ?

[empty lava]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[hard plaza]

any good sugestions for getting acropbatic strikes in the Arterial shock build?

[storm forum]

It's fine, get some okay defensive benefit so I'd recommend it over equal ilvl non-timestrike daggers. Not BiS long term though because timestrike daggers exist.

[grim jay]

The one good acro build is on wowhead

[mortal venture]

What makes ol tankier?

[hard plaza]

is that the no dance one?

that not a massive dps loss?

[royal lantern]

more deffensive talents

reminder that its still rogue

[storm forum]

it skips tea, not dance

[royal lantern]

its just that assa is stupid tanky, outlaw and sub are absurd tanky

[hard plaza]

ahyeah i was looking at the raid one 😄

[surreal citrus]

restless blades affecting feint, extra stamina are what come to mind immediately

[midnight mist]

feint on rb is legit useless

you have 2 charges

[storm forum]

100% uptime feint 🤤

[surreal citrus]

oh right they added that

[royal lantern]

you can spin MORE

[surreal citrus]

😩

[storm forum]

remember when we had that in legion?

[surreal citrus]

assassin can already do so much spinning

[storm forum]

and it restored 10% of our hp every second or something

[midnight mist]

I think sin is the only one out of the 3 that doesnt have some bonus for tankyness?

[storm forum]

man i was so bad back then

[royal lantern]

leeching poison is stronger, but yeha thats it

and leech is kinda a meme

[quiet oar]

That was a legendary leg

Pressing feint got you 20% health

like the vial

[storm forum]

yeah i was playing valeera's will and the shield neck cause i was bad

[grim jay]

Idk I like it to cancel out the selfdamaging stuff

[storm forum]

prydaz?

[grim jay]

[quiet oar]

Prydaz yes

[storm forum]

man what a good time

i miss being bad

[royal lantern]

you mean the stuff that is allready cancled by your basic hp regeneration?

[midnight mist]

while rogue is tanky we might struggle in some of these dungeons

there is a lot of boss thingies we cant cd deff

[storm forum]

we're not very tanky vs some of the DoTs

unless we're taking elusiveness and i dont think anyone does that

[midnight mist]

you might be forced in some keys but idk

[grim jay]

Signet + corrupting deals more than just base HP regen no?

[midnight mist]

running high keys without cheat is a bit troll

[royal lantern]

mate, playing without cheat

lmao

people would realise how much we suck

perma floor PoV

[storm forum]

"killed me through cheat"

<didnt take cheat>

[grim jay]

ElUsIvEnEsS+FeInTiSbEtTeRiFyOuGoTtHeSkIlL

[storm forum]

none of us have the skill

it doesnt exist

the cieling is too high

we cannot reach it

brain power devoted to thinking about feint is brain power we cannot afford

[grim jay]

Ngl I gotta spend the energy elsewhere. Mine as well as my chars energy

[blazing roost]

This week we playing the aoe shiv build for m+?

[midnight mist]

elus should make feint free and not on the gcd

then maybe we might consider dropping cheat

[tropic tundra]

[royal lantern]

remember no CD feint with 50%?

[midnight mist]

no i wasnt born yet

[royal lantern]

[tropic tundra]

What

Was that a thing

[royal lantern]

yes????

for like

a decade mate

[tropic tundra]

Sorry to say this but I started wow in like

8.3

[mighty kiln]

And perma sprint

[tropic tundra]

And rogue much later

[quiet oar]

Feint did reduce threat generation at some point

[midnight mist]

we have perma sprint rn

[tropic tundra]

Ya

[midnight mist]

how usefull very nice

[royal lantern]

ylu mean burst of speed

[royal lantern]

it was vanilla

[tropic tundra]

[royal lantern]

where threat was a actuall thing

[quiet oar]

Also Wotlk

[tropic tundra]

Actual thing

[quiet oar]

Because that what it was in Wotlk clasic

[royal lantern]

rogues could attack all the time and not stop cus of feint

feint as a deffensive came when they made threat not really a thing anymore

[keen spruce]

i've crossed into no-more-cheat death territory and I feel naked

[storm forum]

[keen spruce]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1082501200785715282/1181746909468180500/image.png?ex=65822e93&is=656fb993&hm=2b9acb1d76c02deff3a2cd2ff7233f764d348b93984bf4f60b217b4fb9ac951a&

but yknow

gotta do what u gotta do

[storm forum]

[tawdry flare]

Genuine question - why does my Outlaw Spec sim 50k higher than my Sin spec when the gear I change are the same ilvls?

Is Dslice busted for Sin or Outlaw?

[naive rock]

can you attach the sims?

[steel stump]

I love it when I get one shot in 25 and team mates say "but did you feint bro"

[surreal citrus]

[storm forum]

cause Sin died for PI/aug/enh sins

[keen spruce]

it's not busted, it's just that different specs interact differently with the default* damage profiles of Dslice

and outlaw always sims very high on it

[tawdry flare]

Unfortunately I can't. I ran them before heading to the train.

Both are 470 ilvl - trinkets actually heavily favor Sin - no Nick of Times - no buffs besides runes and flasks

I was just like "holy shit - why such a huge difference"

[royal lantern]

comparing dslicr Numbers is kinda pointless

[tawdry flare]

Okay... So just Patchwork and hope for the best?

[whole mason]

is the dagger bug reported?

[lofty junco]

hmm must say on tyrant without blindside it felt rly bothersome after like 1-2 minutes fight

how high we are talking about?

[storm forum]

i played it on 20 today and it was okay, i imagine you get better value whne trash can live through a full set up + DM/KB for spatter

[steel stump]

I played cleave on AD 25 it was pretty good

Packs are long enougth that you get at least a kb everytime

and often several

[keen spruce]

if packs are living long enough to get more than one KB out

in a 25 tyran

something is going terribly wrong

[lofty junco]

so like if they die at the end of KB or shortly after that?

[steel stump]

We got to the end boss with 10 minutes to spare

so I guess it was fine

[rigid sphinx]

Yo guy's, after my ST opener. When my KB+SD comes back, do i want to refresh upgrade garrot + rupture before spamming evenoms ?

[lofty junco]

we did fail the 18 AD yesterday cause the pala tank decided to not move the boss a inch from where he tanked it

and after a while it was impossible to reach the boss without getting through tons of spiders

[normal mist]

Just cloak and destroy them all brrrrr

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-sonic-the-hedgehog-sonic3d-blast-saturn-running-gif-25117878

[steel stump]

dont soak them with cloak

[keen spruce]

cloak soak is like last ditch effort when boss is sub 10%

[steel stump]

you need it for wracking pain

[keen spruce]

and you need a hail mary to clear some before you're all over run

[normal mist]

You do?

[lofty junco]

thats exactly what i did

[steel stump]

in 25 you do

[normal mist]

He said 18

[keen spruce]

in an 18 you can just juice box

[steel stump]

thing is, soaking put a lot of shit on the floor

[keen spruce]

soaking still bad yes

[steel stump]

Tank needs to move the boss at the right time

and spiders become less of a concern

[lofty junco]

yeah and that was the problem. at some point we had so many pools at the boss it was impossible to get through it without taking like 80% damage

[lofty junco]

pala did tank it where the boss stands at the start and thought it was the task of everyone else to clear spiders

[quiet oar]

Guys Do we love the storming hiding the spider spawn circles

[devout wigeon]

yes

[surreal citrus]

yes

[steel stump]

there's a weird timming when you gotta pack for add spawn, after a few sec spiders spawn and you're better off just leaving and going back to the boss if you got 2 casters

otherwise you gotta be really carefull

[quiet oar]

I dont know

Why Blizzard decides go make this circle so tiny

Like if there is a hunter with two elegons

And using beast cleave

You cant See half of your screen

(thsts also annoying on nmyue)

[marsh grotto]

If I were to craft a dagger for playing Sin, should I go for Primal molten shortblade?

[surreal citrus]

what else would you craft

[drifting cosmos]

is BSL stacking error still there? or is it just tooltip

[marsh grotto]

Sorry, wasn't thinking there. Would it be easier for crafters to recraft my 437 or should I just make a new order?

[surreal citrus]

if you have one from last season you can get it recrafted and it'll cost fewer mats

than making a brand new one

[marsh grotto]

Thanks

[arctic socket]

noob nicholas question here

Does timestrike deal more damaage in main hand or off hand (The proc) or does it not matter

[royal lantern]

doesnt matter, why should it

[arctic socket]

Fair point

[delicate trench]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[stiff badger]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[drifting cosmos]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif?width=337&height=600

[crisp pine]

Is there any reason not to macro Pick Lock with Kingsbane?

[grim jay]

The question is

Is there any reason to macro pick lock to anything

Or bind pick lock at all

[crisp pine]

What if you're fighting a mimic?

[grim jay]

Wdym just dodgeroll the grab and hit it from behind

Or play sorcery/pyro

[quiet oar]

Just bind pickpocket to your garrote

You get rich asap

[grim jay]

Yeah

Gotta rename to A$AP Richy tho

For it to work

[leaden portal]

fellas i found a way to never fk up start of pull .. I just made a macro that has everyting i will ever need

[royal lantern]

alt f4 macro?

[leaden portal]

Yes

[faint path]

Jeez people selling ring myth boes for 8.5m gold

[rotund oak]

thats alot of gold

for a ring

[grim jay]

What stats does it even have

[rotund oak]

whatever the stats 😄

if there isnt like a broken unique effect

[faint path]

crit mast 483

[rotund oak]

its a stupid amount of gold

[grim jay]

Crit mastery is pretty good for many I guess

But ye, I'd rather craft one

Or get hero with socket

[rotund oak]

or jsut farm one from m+

[grim jay]

[rotund oak]

yeah

8.5mil

[leaden portal]

8mil:? on my realm btw

its kinda cheap

[rotund oak]

this early its reasonable

but still alot of gold

ive crafted a wpn,boots and waist on my rogue for about a third of those

[leaden portal]

but my realm is fucked so nobody will buy it

ppl are trying to sell myth boes for 500k and less and it will never get sold

Same as Tmogs here

[faint path]

ilvl?

[leaden portal]

483

[faint path]

ye pretty cheap then 😄

[rotund oak]

u r both crazy 😄

thats 50E

more basicly

[leaden portal]

but why would u even buy a ring tho .. i mean stats are good but still ..i think u can get same stats from dung

[faint path]

I wouldnt pay that much gold but people are buying 😄

483 socket plate head 3.5m on my realm atm

[leaden portal]

lemme check here

[pseudo hamlet]

Anyone has the video guide for Assa in M+? I am doing ~150-190k DPS in 477ilvl gear, which is kinda low. Especially compared to DH/hunters. Tried Hybrid M+/Arterial Shock/Cleave builds and they're almost the same ~150-190k.

[leaden portal]

483head with socket 450k

[pseudo hamlet]

Not counting EB/ToT where DPS is higher because of the last bosses, but I don't count them.

[faint path]

jeez 450k

[leaden portal]

why would u ever compare yourself to dh xd

[rotund oak]

can craft engi heads q5 for 5k lul

[pseudo hamlet]

I know I shouldn't but it's sad seeing yourself doing ~170k while they're doing ~220-250k.

[broken hatch]

What level of keys are you doing ?

[pseudo hamlet]

21-23

[rotund oak]

ye DH/Hunter destroy those,especially in tyr weeks

u wont even ramp

instant deletion

[broken hatch]

Mobs wont live long enough for you get get full value

[leaden portal]

im some keys im doing like 180-210 and those fks with 2 buttons will always get u bcs mobs explode when they look at em xd

[rotund oak]

just go outlaw and pump

outlaw gud pump

[pseudo hamlet]

Don't like Outlaw that much to be honest

[rotund oak]

im like 475ilvl and im into 21s as well,bruh i cant go past a CT cast

and shiv

mobs die

DHs and Hunters just delete everything

[agile geode]

Then play sin

[broken hatch]

I suggest you dont play CT in tyrannical week

[agile geode]

But sin strenght Is real on upper keys

Where mobs got more healt

[rotund oak]

yeah it shines in higher keys where dots actually tick enough

[royal lantern]

wow players discover what Dot means

[rotund oak]

actually tried that in a tott

[scarlet orbit]

just needed 19 years

[rotund oak]

was surprisingly good

[broken hatch]

This build works perfect when playing tyra or with a DH/hunt

[rotund oak]

idk what perfect means 😄

[broken hatch]

Well aslong as you dont have a DH 😂

I had quite fun playing this build instead of CT

[rotund oak]

ye u dont ct,thats all

splatter is there

[broken hatch]

Yea splatter feels very good

[rotund oak]

ild rather outlaw or sub for keys tbh

coz i dont rly do srs keys

[broken hatch]

I cant stand outlaw i just dislike the playstyle

[royal lantern]

keys are not serious by default

[rotund oak]

its cringe content 10/10 +1 totally agree

[broken hatch]

And sub feels abit clunky in keys atm but I havnt really given it a fair try yet

[rotund oak]

ild rather do raid or pvp

[grim jay]

Hating on m+ but playing the minigame

[rotund oak]

sub's fine

just weaker

for aoe

not a real aoe burst specc anymore

[grim jay]

Bp is just tuned too low

[rotund oak]

yup

it feels so bad

[broken hatch]

Hopefully they tune up BP abit

And lower the cost of storm

[rotund oak]

[grim jay]

Nah

No spamy shit

Big casts

[broken hatch]

I just miss season 2 sub felt so good

[rotund oak]

i love the two talents on the right side of sub tree

the spin to win ones

feels like diablo 3 Demon hunter

gear of the dreadlands

[broken hatch]

Yea right side build feels very good

[compact glacier]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[rotund oak]

and its perma slow

u can pretty much zoom through packs

[cursive owl]

so

nick of time does 4% overall dmg huh

[normal mist]

1-4%

Yeah

Depends on luck

[wise whale]

Can we cloak the embersoul trinket debuff?

[faint path]

waow you are so tricky 😄

[spice surge]

You cannot cloak it no

[lofty junco]

got champion branch traded from DH. guess hunters ain't that friendly

https://i.imgur.com/z6uj417.png
https://i.imgur.com/4KoO2qq.png

[arctic socket]

How does the bm do less

[normal mist]

Some forget to press multishot

For best cleave buff

[arctic socket]

Three buttons might a little too complicated for them

[mighty elm]

You can, yeah

[lofty junco]

[arctic socket]

I’m glad assassin is a more interactive rotation with the dot uptime / pooling so you don’t have to just brain rot

[wise whale]

o7 ty gamer

[arctic socket]

Can you see multishot casts or buff uptime

[lofty junco]

54 casts and 39% uptime

[arctic socket]

Oof

[lofty junco]

tbh i tried BM, and compared with SV in wotlk, its just boring

did we had a branch WA?

[rotund oak]

that dude must have something of a disability

😄

[lofty junco]

and dude died at the last boss. so guess DH rather gave it to the better player^^

!branch

[limber lion]

what did you think that would do?

[lofty junco]

thought we had a command for branch pickup

[limber lion]

1/1/7

pick up 2

wait 6 seconds

[pale knot]

Blackjack talent dosent stack right? If 2 rogues blind same target?

[limber lion]

pick up 3rd

[limber lion]

no

[pale knot]

Cheers

[lofty junco]

is there any recommend WA for tracking it?

[limber lion]

I use Lisonna's

[clever sapphire]

okay guys in case you didnt know, make sure you dont drag the bat spawning mobs into brh 3rd boss. The boss also gets buffed from felfrenzy

[limber lion]

https://wago.io/q7bHLuILp

[lofty junco]

ty

[limber lion]

Very customizable

[swift magnet]

how to sim Hissing and Buzzing runes in the same sim please?

[limber lion]

#tc-research message

use that

[swift magnet]

thanks

[lofty junco]

we are using branch together with DM?

[limber lion]

Yes

[agile geode]

Do you think we'll be nerfed again?

[willow kite]

I really wish there was a top sim option for it

[limber lion]

I mean you can sim Top Gear twice and just change the enchants

[willow kite]

Like multiple consumable profiles

[cursive marsh]

yo asas pros, quick question. Do you spam mutilate/ambush to envenom between CD's or are you just keeping envenom up even if it means overcapping in energy?

[crisp walrus]

Might be a noob question, but do our bleeds snapshot with the mastery we have when we apply the bleeds or is their dmaage dynamic?

[willow kite]

Yeah, that's what I do

[limber lion]

And well, technically you can sim consumables in Top Gear as well

using profilesets

[willow kite]

It's just cumbersome

[limber lion]

but that's high tech and not really something that we recommend to non-theorycrafters

[willow kite]

Yeah, but you have to manually create the profilesets

[limber lion]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[willow kite]

Which removes from the convenience that is top gear

[cursive marsh]

ty homie

[regal kiln]

guys how many sparks of dream do we have ?

[limber lion]

3

[regal kiln]

ty bro

[willow kite]

Dynamic, afaik

Specific effects snapshot though

Like nightstalker

[limber lion]

Yes, it's dynamic. No haste/mastery snapshots in the kit currently

[crisp walrus]

Alright so its not worth popping branch pre pull to snapshot opener bleeds and then kite the orbs to get uptime for entire kingsbane as well?

I know that doing htat is basically impossible anyway

[limber lion]

Nightstalker is the only one and even when you snapshot Nightstalker, everything else that happens after it updates it dynamically

[crisp walrus]

But theoretically

[limber lion]

Yeah, definitely not

[crisp walrus]

Alright good to know

So just popping branch with death mark and kiting the orb for at least 6 seconds ig?

[limber lion]

Pick up 2 orbs instantly and kite the third

[crisp walrus]

just long enough to get the entire kingsbane into branch window

ok yeah

[limber lion]

Pick up the third after 6-8 seconds

[crisp walrus]

Alright

[lofty junco]

pick up first 2 orbs and just let the 3rd orb come naturaly to me?

[fickle viper]

if ur at the right spot based on the 3rd orbs starting position that can work to get the right timing yes

[lofty junco]

do i delay kb+SD until i picked up 2 orbs?

[limber lion]

No

You play normally

Press DM + trinket

pick up 2 orbs instantly whilst doing rotation normally

I'm glad you deleted that message

[ornate lake]

I read your message, not the one above you (:

[lofty junco]

well that will take some time getting used to picking orbs and doing rotation^^

[dusk sun]

Whats the proper timing for branch

[lofty junco]

see above

[stable ether]

Branch or ashes are better?

[hushed fern]

any rogue can review my dps logs rq? it feels like im doing something wrong.

[lofty junco]

1/1/7

[dusk sun]

Im assuming those are measurements in seconds

[lofty junco]

aye

pick up first 2 orbs instantly. thenj the 3rd after 6 seconds

[dusk sun]

Kb is like 14 sec so basically when kb is 7 sec left?

[lofty junco]

u press branch together with DM

[dusk sun]

So 10 sec left in dm?

[lofty junco]

probably. just get a weakaura for it^^

ceverion posted one few minutes ago

[thorn fjord]

Theres poo in the water

[burnt venture]

Do you guys always make sure to get out 3 garrote and 3 ruptures in the IC window before you DM/SD+KB when pulling a big pack? I.e Everbloom first pull

[limber lion]

No, just garrotes and then move on to your rotation

You can continue to reapply the ruptures during the dance window as well

so long as you have Envenom up for KB

[rugged sphinx]

if i mutilate/ambush and get 4 combo points, is it better to just envenom or get max cp

[limber lion]

Envenom

[burnt venture]

🤔 how do you spatter then? If rupt isn’t up?

[limber lion]

..........

[rugged sphinx]

ty

[burnt venture]

Ah okay spread with SD while KB**

[limber lion]

Of course you would rupture first

no

SD with KB

and you spread during KB

[uneven solstice]

dots up KB to spaming the splatter with enV

big deeps

[limber lion]

Gar Gar Gar Rup Muti DM Shiv Envenom Dance KB Gar Gar CT or whatever

[burnt venture]

10-4. Thanks man. I’ve been trying to Gar Gar Gar, FoK, Rup, FoK, Rup, FoK, Rup then go into CDs

[limber lion]

Probs not FoK before that first Rup, but yeah

[burnt venture]

And pack almost deadge by then from DH or BM huntard lol

[uneven solstice]

i have a serious question

[limber lion]

Just one Rupture to enable Spatter

[burnt venture]

Gotcha

Makes sense

[limber lion]

And then CD's and CT up asap

[uneven solstice]

are you running amplifying?

[limber lion]

With Envenom as high as possible

[limber lion]

Sometimes, not this week though

[uneven solstice]

hmmm

does it boost the KB that much?

i didnt notice to much maybe i didnt hit it perfectly

[limber lion]

Amplifying Poison?

Why would it boost KB at all

It doesn't do anything to KB

[uneven solstice]

its allows you to apply another lethal

[limber lion]

Amplifying Poison does not do that

[uneven solstice]

which would not in turn have a bigger kb or no

[limber lion]

Dragon-Tempered Blades does that

[uneven solstice]

thats what i meant sorry

[limber lion]

Amp is just a poison in itself

[uneven solstice]

that other build with amplying and dragon temp

[limber lion]

Yes, it buffs the KB significantly

[burnt venture]

There’s like 4-5 builds that are extremely close in sims

[limber lion]

Yeah, I just play AP with VR/Blindside this week

[burnt venture]

I’ve been simming and right now Hybrid sims best for me. But it’s been back and forth a little it seems

[burnt venture]

Aterial Shock build then?

[limber lion]

Not quite, but a variation of it yeah

[burnt venture]

Right on

[limber lion]

Can help with soothing the raging with AP

[burnt venture]

I just call it a tank mech and move on 😅

But I’m only doing 20-21s

[grim jay]

I usually do aswell, but did a few runs of cleave build yesterday and it definitely slaps

Even in aoe

[burnt venture]

So like 🤷🏻‍♂️

[limber lion]

What is the cleave build

[burnt venture]

Raid build but iron wire and spatter

No CT

[limber lion]

Right

Not a fan personally

I enjoy my 10% CT's in my keys

[burnt venture]

It does hella boss dam and actually isn’t bad in AoE either especially if you have a DH or BM or Demo Lock melting trash

[grim jay]

That one ye

[burnt venture]

Fortified I don’t reckon you’d consider it much but this week if you running with a couple others who nuke trash it’s decent

[grim jay]

It does surprisingly well on aoe

[ornate lake]

You dont envenom before using SD+KB to buff its dmg?

[limber lion]

You do

[frail forge]

On keys with not a lot of kicks could you drop MA and iron wire for CT? 🤔

[burnt venture]

Yes you do

[grim jay]

Like first pull throne still like 700k

[limber lion]

You never drop MA, ever

Would be a bit inting dropping Iron Wire because of the DR portion as well

[grim jay]

It kinda defeats the purpose of the build aswell

[limber lion]

and it's just insane utility

[frail forge]

Kinda figured

[limber lion]

But technically sure, go for it

[frail forge]

I'll try the cleave build this week. Been using hybrid so far

[limber lion]

it's all the same

[low phoenix]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[indigo epoch]

I've been playing cleave. I dig it this week. Get blindside and PB.

[quartz locust]

We shouldn't be going out of our way to refresh rupture after vanish right?

[white temple]

Hello there

Can someone point out why my dps is like half of other rogues are doing? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7M29WxB1HdK3vVqw#fight=7&type=damage-done

[burnt venture]

I’m not same language as logs but I don’t even see caustic spatter at all?

[quartz locust]

you can translate btw

top right

and this was a pure ST fight, IB is stronger

[white temple]

Caustic spatter doesn't translate for a 100k dps increase, plus the way the spears were scattered in the fight felt too spreaded to justify it

[quartz locust]

wait you dont have 4 set?

[burnt venture]

Oh wait I was thinking this was root boss sorry

[white temple]

I don't have 4pc yet, yeah

[burnt venture]

Yeah that’s my fault I was thinking roots boss

[white temple]

That big of a diff?

[quartz locust]

with 4pc you should be doing the appropriate dps for your ilvl

[swift magnet]

one thing I noticed is that you have too low envenom uptime, maybe you should get more haste but not sure

[quartz locust]

its pretty major

200k+dps would need a big jump in ilvl

[swift magnet]

oh what I said is somewhat related to 4p too

[spice spire]

Your gear is pretty shit ngl

[quartz locust]

but 4pc is like 10-15k dps

[spice spire]

Trinkets less than ideal

No Nicholas

No 4p

[white temple]

Still, represents a 100k dps diff?

[quartz locust]

you wont be doing over 200k until you ilvl like 480+

with optimal gear

[white temple]

Because there're some guys on hc with 467

Dealing 200k+

[quartz locust]

same fight?

[white temple]

According to WCL

[burnt venture]

They are likely getting PI/Aug externals if I had to guess

[quartz locust]

yeah

[burnt venture]

If 467 pulling that much.

[distant peak]

Fight length matters a lot too

[white temple]

Hm

[burnt venture]

4pc is the biggest deal though

You NEED that

[white temple]

Yeah, been trying but no luck

[burnt venture]

Yeah fair

[white temple]

Spent 2 charges on hero pieces and KSM

Will see if I am able to give a try on N

If anything fails, I'll live with LFR (if it drops)

[chilly viper]

is it bad to macro KB with Dance

dance before kb

[oak tangle]

i mean i did 220k on a 2.5 min LFR kill with no externals at 476 ilvl

XD

[distant peak]

Catalyst Tuesday so farm up an off piece and you’re set then

[oak tangle]

(volcoross)

[burnt venture]

This is fine to do

[white temple]

Btw, 0 externals

[burnt venture]

Only time you don’t want them macro is M+ because sometimes you need SD to spread IC Gar/Rup

[spice spire]

Dance after KB

[distant peak]

That lacks a lot of context

[white temple]

3 min fight, Igira, 467

[burnt venture]

What is kill time here vs your kill time?

[white temple]

Mine took 439

1 :30 min diff tbf

[burnt venture]

Yeah so that’s a huge diff

[oak tangle]

i don't break 200k on igira

[lofty junco]

same here. tried to apply as many ruptures as possible before going into cd window

[oak tangle]

granted i didn't fight her last week

[kind hare]

Imo sending KB earlier is better

[white temple]

Alright, so it's a matter of time lenght and "minor" gear differences. Rotationally it's all g?

[burnt venture]

I think we need to work on sending KB sooner tbh. Mobs melt and if you don’t get full or close to full value from KB it’s monkA

[distant peak]

I don’t see a dps pot in your log but I could be missing it

[white temple]

Too cheap to buy :T

I'm kinda broke, so

xd

[distant peak]

Stacking cds as much as possible is what elevates dps to the high highs. You should run some sims without dps pot at 4.5 min fight length and see how you compare to the sim. That’ll give you a better sense of how far off you are from your theoretical max

[quartz locust]

also this is the diff of no 4 set for me

[white temple]

Sounds fair, appreciate

[runic terrace]

In m+ do I have to apply garrote/rupture on different targets or, since it's smart targeting, can I apply/spam it on one target only?

[white temple]

IIRC you lose 1 target doing that

So you'd spread 3 then 2

[distant peak]

You’ll lose 1 application every cast but I cba to tab target in anything less than 22

[dusky rose]

!plater

[raven bone]

Is it normal to almost be simming 15k higher in Sub than assa?

[distant peak]

It’s importance is likely very dependent on mob count of the pull

[raven bone]

And being more optimised for assa on top of that

[runic terrace]

Thanks @white temple and @distant peak

[burnt venture]

I’m on mobile so maybe my timeline doesn’t load correctly, but it seems you have a big break in between abilities sometimes

[white temple]

Gotta dodge some shit sometimes c:

[burnt venture]

Not too much on that fight though

Spears is only thing and you can just crowd boss iirc and stay out of those?

[white temple]

On 2nd wep and spears

And soak

But that's on me, I need to position myself better on it

[burnt venture]

Yeah better positioning and still dps while moving

Strafe one way or other and still press rotation

[white temple]

Alr

Will watch these

Thank you for your help

[quartz locust]

yeah wouldnt worry about outlier high dps parses from others, just optimize and try to hit your sim dps

[burnt venture]

Do you have strafe left and right bound to A and D keys? That helped me tremendously

[burnt venture]

Any time brother

[normal mist]

I still play q and e

[white temple]

Yeye

[burnt venture]

Also am no expert, just trying to help with what I see

[normal mist]

And a & d

[burnt venture]

Some people in my guild still play with camera turn on A and D and it infuriates me lol

[white temple]

I just simmed and I'm about right for what it gives, based on Uttrs orientation

[quartz locust]

binding building and finisher to Q and E helps me a lot keeping my rotation going while moving

[normal mist]

I still have turn on A and D

[burnt venture]

I mean it’s personal preference

[normal mist]

I'm playing piano while dpsing WHILE moving right and left BCS of pvp ptsd

[quartz locust]

then i strafe and turn with my mouse

[burnt venture]

But strafe should be bound imo. It’s hard to get used to at first but helps so much with dodging mechs while keeping up dps rotation

[normal mist]

I have strafe... On Q and E

[burnt venture]

Yeah then you fine

[normal mist]

I use the 6 keys to move around xD

BCS I'm an idiot who refuses to adapt

[burnt venture]

🤣

[normal mist]

I could have 2 more binds for stuff

[burnt venture]

Long as you don’t stand in shit is okay loool

[normal mist]

Oh no, I know my shit

Good old times moving behind casters so they couldn't cast stuff

[crisp pine]

Me running out of my own poison bomb cause I'm scared

[normal mist]

Now they don't cast anything

[left sundial]

When in sd kb - rupture and garrote expires should i go nuke in that screen or redott?

prob send envenoms more worth for burst window

but its so bad for parses

[quartz locust]

refresh garrote immediately after, but otherwise nuke

[lofty junco]

lol getting declined with 2k and 470 ilvl feels just so stupid for +17

[tidal spire]

Always higher ppl applying

[atomic night]

Hi everyone, can someone please point me in the direction of a tutorial/guide on how to include crafted pieces in sims? I tried adding it via linking in chat after typing /simc but it gives the base lvl of season 1 and I can't seem to find an option in raidbots to make it S3 ilvl, thanks in advance

[lofty junco]

i mean if the grp delist i have no problem. but straight decline your application is stupid

[quartz locust]

easiest way is to use the gear compare tab in raidbots

you add the crafted items, manually type the ilvl and add embellshments/enchants etc

[swift nimbus]

you can also use droptimizer with crafted items

[wind dune]

17 is where all the people farming for crests go lots of 2700+ sittting down there lol

[strong sleet]

the strings to add them should be pinned in a tc channel

[burnt venture]

Droptimizer but that doesn’t compare gear just shows you what upgrade would be

[swift nimbus]

some of us are farming for daggers

[wind dune]

same too actually

galakrons prison

[swift nimbus]

other rogue in my guild got one from vault and has offered to help but we never get fall keys

[atomic night]

thank you for the replies, appreciate it

[quartz locust]

I've never met the other rogue in your guild but I hate him nonetheless

[swift nimbus]

he's not as bad as one of our tanks who got both of his warglaives, myth and hero track, and has run fall less than 10 times

[mighty nexus]

I’m almost 2500 and I still get declined for 17s

BM and Dh apps have prio over us rn

[dusk palm]

2.9 checking in. It doesn’t get better. Run your own key

[burnt venture]

Just tell them in note you’ll AoE dispel raging. Then get into key and don’t because it’s dps loss 🤣

Not that tanks care about it much anyway though lol

[neat plank]

i must be special then i get fast invites 17-20

[dusk palm]

I did 370k overall in a 23 bloom. The healer added me and that’s how I get into keys. Just q with a heals

[normal mist]

You rizzed a healer

[dusk palm]

Garrote silence also hard carried the first half of the dungeon

[mighty nexus]

I usually just list my own, you waste more time applying to 500 different keys than actually just running yours

[neat plank]

do you have low ilvl

[mighty nexus]

It all starts to make sense when you realize how many people are playing havoc rn. I listed a 23 fall last night and I don’t think I’ve ever seen more purple in pending

472, probably considered low

[neat plank]

thats it then

[valid leaf]

472 is low?

Sheeesh im doing 22s with 457 and getting invites

[earnest remnant]

for some yeah

[mighty nexus]

Well, most of the people in the 2.5io range are probably around 478~

[neat plank]

lower than most people applying yeah

[valid leaf]

And outdpsing every 480 geard baboon

[earnest remnant]

like measure it up against mine, and its kinda low

[mighty nexus]

[quartz locust]

For ElitistJerks yeah

[neat plank]

its not about elitist or how much you need for a certain key, its how much you have vs others applying

[earnest remnant]

cant really blame people, for wanting an "hopefully" easier time with their key

[quartz locust]

my comment was just a refrence for the oldheads in here

[mighty nexus]

Ye, I totally get why people are picky about keys after having my 23 EB ragnaros’d down to a 20 EB yesterday

[crisp pine]

Inviting me to any key is a guaranteed -1

[simple ore]

not even about people specifically looking for high io players, list your own key and you'll be flooded with tons of people way better than you

[valid leaf]

This set of dungeons are so easy it is even funny for me to find out someone think its not an easy in time

[simple ore]

why would you not take them

[neat plank]

Exactly

[mighty nexus]

Especially the fotm classes, like there’s no reason to take a 2.5K sin over a 2.4K havoc or bm, in a pugs mind

[loud hearth]

How important is a 5+ CP Envenom in the opener before Death Mark?

Is 4cp Env fine before DM/KB?

Wowhead says 5+, IcyVeins says 4+

[earnest remnant]

you want to do 5+ before it, to not have envenom drop

[neat plank]

as long as youre not losing the buff

[mighty nexus]

Your envenom is gonna drop before you can refresh it if you don’t 5+ the first one

[loud hearth]

That's what I thought, been doing 5+ for DM/KB, but thought I'd check IcyVeins guide in case I missed anything

[static glacier]

someone wanna ping seli to update it?

[mighty nexus]

You’re doing it right then

[dark token]

Rogue is fotm

[mighty nexus]

Not in keys like havoc or bm

Ah, you changed it

[quartz locust]

my month has been 16 years long then

[mighty nexus]

Ye, rogue is fotm but would you really take a sin over a havoc/bm right now ?

[dark token]

Sin is better than law in organized groups in most keys and outlaw is probably the single best pug DPS atm post havoc nerfs

[thorn fjord]

OL just has a ton of utility and the ability to fucking blast

[clever sapphire]

beat a havoc by 20k as assa, havoc dead confirmed

[thorn fjord]

Variance is the only "issue"

[loud hearth]

Also, should you pre-refresh Rupture before DM or KB if they would fall off during, but are not yet in pandemic range?

Same for garrote to get max duration empowered when you apply SD garrote

[clever sapphire]

you will garrote mid kb anyways since you press dance

[mighty nexus]

Yeah, we’re specifically talking about pugs here. Organized groups don’t really apply to this

[clever sapphire]

i usually refresh rupture so it covers the whole dm

not sure if feelcraft or the actual way to go

[thorn fjord]

Should cover the entire DM without having to refresh

[clever sapphire]

guys i have a very serious question

[lofty junco]

lol from emissary with socket https://i.imgur.com/cA5OBFs.png

[clever sapphire]

lets just assume i wanna feelcraft and use this on smolderon for max burst on first intermission

do i wanna insta proc it with dm?

[fallow canopy]

some one get this man out of the kitchen

[clever sapphire]

im bored of hc reclear, leave me alone

also thinking about running sepsis

[gusty mirage]

[clever sapphire]

gonna be the most cursed smolderon run i have ever done

[dark token]

As a pug atm I would take outlaw over havoc or bm

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/36/#metric=dps&affixes=706&bracket=20

[mighty nexus]

My brother in Christ, no one is talking about outlaw lol

[gusty mirage]

Y’all just gonna ignore homeboy wanting to cheese a tank trinket eh?

[fallow canopy]

understandable, just kinda funny

[mighty nexus]

Outlaws goated, I get it. That’s not the conversation here tho

[simple ore]

I don't want to think about it honestly

[earnest remnant]

seen more cooked shit

[gusty mirage]

Understandable

[gusty mirage]

Big p2 prog for tindral yesterday btw

This boss might die in less than 1000 pulls afterall

[unique sorrel]

It’d be funny if it was cracked for it

[earnest remnant]

whats more fucked up his cheatdeath shit or my 2nd min cook for tindral

[gusty mirage]

I still think beam size needs a nerf

[unique sorrel]

We start Nymue today

[rotund oak]

Tommorow wow dies for a month 🔥

[unique sorrel]

Should be easy unless people are monkey mode

[gusty mirage]

Or fix the ducking visual indicators

The amount of times I’ve procced cheat watching a circle go past me 5yds away is infuriating

[simple ore]

Blizzard doesn't know what this means, are you asking for more fading on the edges of aoes?

[thorn fjord]

yes

[earnest remnant]

you got particle density on or off?

[gusty mirage]

I have it on for tindral

[clever sapphire]

im gonn have to go in without cheat death too while im at it, cause tank trinket procs after cheat deaths

[earnest remnant]

i have it turned off

[unique sorrel]

I will say, I’ve straight up stopped looking at Warcraft logs, seeing super low number cause no PI on pull/during lust is making me sadge

[thorn fjord]

Use that public service money to get a new build boo 😛

[gusty mirage]

I believe in creative freedom but what the fuck

[earnest remnant]

never had issues with beams after that

[gusty mirage]

Yeah I’m sure my 7950x, 32gb of ddr5 ram, and 3070 is the issue

[thorn fjord]

100%

[gusty mirage]

Surely not a dogshit engine that’s older than half this discord

[dark token]

My guild is losing their minds over feather changes https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892045651033092096/1182093703897174127/image.png?ex=6583718d&is=6570fc8d&hm=e474f2ffe0126a34ec3703da65b12ebb12630d90314f2207cb60d931fb239a6d&

[lofty junco]

which HC piece is probably the hardest to get? https://i.imgur.com/qmvi2ie.png

[gusty mirage]

Bro the amount of stupid discussions over feathers is wild

Mfers started bringing up clockwise and counter clockwise

[clever sapphire]

build is also ready, fully prepared to fuck around and find out

[dark token]

People are orienting by absolute true north vs boss ass vs edge of room

[gusty mirage]

Idk how hard it is to grab a feather and an orb and land for most people

[earnest remnant]

we had a 5min break to people laughing last night

[gusty mirage]

But holy fuck

[mighty nexus]

none of them really, hc is easy. I’d just get whatever would be the biggest upgrade for your sims rn

[earnest remnant]

some dude said Intercardinal

i cannot xD

[unique sorrel]

Did you break this man’s knees?

[mighty nexus]

What does that even mean

[lofty junco]

well i have hc legs isntead of shoulders atm. so probably HC shoulders then

[simple ore]

ff14 player spotted

[clever sapphire]

can i snapshot nightstalker onto sepsis if i press it in shadowdance?

[gusty mirage]

The best part is, for p2 we’re all grabbing the wrong feathers and orbs and it’s working out fine

[clever sapphire]

i would assume

[gusty mirage]

Go figure

If you don’t overcomplicate a simple mechanic it’s easy

WILD

[dark token]

Does this actually help with visuals like smold or does it hide stuff?

[lofty junco]

u only get that once/season right?

[dark token]

It's weird some bosses are more clear vs some are undoable with particle density off

[mighty nexus]

Ye

[earnest remnant]

makes it easier for me

[gusty mirage]

I’ve tried both, doesn’t seem to fix anything except make it even more apparent the fire beams aren’t on you when they proc cheat

It’s pretty cool

Sick mechanic

[polar cape]

That was us too