#assassination

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limpid ridge
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He'd be angry if he could read

mighty nexus
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challenge; find your branch orbs in hc nymue with 4 other Tauren melees standing on top of you

crimson zephyr
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I'm too stupid for smolderon I think

quiet oar
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If melees soak ecerything

waxen oyster
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tauren melee players

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are absolute terrorists

quiet oar
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And you have literally no soace

limpid ridge
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I lost signet roll with a 98 earlier today Sadge

quiet oar
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But tbh

dusty phoenix
runic hinge
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I played with acro so I can stand farther back and give myself a chance to see the lines

dusty phoenix
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idk

quiet oar
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The worst Part of nymue i melee

dusty phoenix
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not rly feeling branch atm

tropic tundra
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BM with stupidly big double cows <<

flat musk
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!wa

quiet oar
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SEEING THE ZOOS AND FUCKING DHS AND NOT IMPORTANT THINGS

tropic tundra
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This is worse

violet hollow
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@balmy condor when do we want to use ashes trinket?^^

waxen oyster
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i just play in the larodar lava

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and blame tank

quiet oar
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WHERE TRANSPERSNT PLAYERS AND PETS GOD DAMNIT BLIZZSRD

waxen oyster
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larodar is a boring fight tbh

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its just wait for your ranged to learn how to do the hose

dusty phoenix
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the bm hunter in my raid said rogue players are boomers because we dont have buttons starege

balmy condor
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whoop

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wrong copy pasta

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this one

mighty nexus
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council with pugs is fucking toxic too, I got ducked at the start of my KB windows twice bc people don’t know how to unduck away from everyone else

waxen oyster
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adderall huffing spammers

dusty phoenix
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I had to swap from outlaw because my wrist got really bad

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2 weeks into season release

violet hollow
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thanks ❤️

tough portal
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How many buttons do BM hunters have these days?

mighty nexus
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Like 5

quiet oar
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Not many

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And its Literally face roll

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Its really payphone

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As long as you keep your frenzy Stacks up

mighty nexus
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It’s like 5 buttons and 3 of them will spike you to 700k dps in m+

dusty phoenix
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he was just mad because he is our duck player on council

tough portal
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Oh good, compared to Mut’s like 10+ buttons

mighty nexus
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serves him right. become the zoo

dusty phoenix
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and after he complained about having to do it I said its not rly much different to bm hunter gameplay since he still has 2 buttons

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he got rly mad

waxen oyster
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council looks so chill as bm

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just spacebar around

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pressing 3 buttons

dusty phoenix
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i fucking HATE council

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legit fucking worst council fight out of all of them

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holy fucking shit I can not stand it

waxen oyster
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tanks trying to assassinate you with bear charge

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yep

dusty phoenix
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yea and the bosses constantly jumping away

waxen oyster
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idk im hitting dryad

dusty phoenix
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tanks not being able to grp 2 because of frontals and ppl complaining

mighty nexus
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I don’t get how some of you guys parse so well on council. I’m absolute ass on that fight

quiet oar
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The advantage being bm over survival is not getting meleed by critter in atal dazar

balmy condor
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If your tanks don’t stack them it’s insta doomed

tough portal
dusty phoenix
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ye u legit cant parse if tanks cant keep 2 stacked

waxen oyster
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larodar feels like a tank fight slightly

tough portal
bold temple
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not only was sandlgass better but i had assumed sandglass/coiled serpent were better than signet brand in m+ and coiled serpent simmed worse than signet brand lol

waxen oyster
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i watch kill vids and their melee have perma uptime outside charges

distant plinth
dusty phoenix
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lol

balmy condor
waxen oyster
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yeah idk how it feels to have non troll tanks

balmy condor
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And you’re running 2 passives

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Which is troll as fuck

dusty phoenix
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idk larodar felt fine for us but I legit cant on council

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like our tanks are alright but man they make me aggressive

waxen oyster
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larodar depends on how many braincells your ranged have

dusty phoenix
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on council

bold temple
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the sim was ashes + one of those passives just wasn't sure which before

balmy condor
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Okay good good

waxen oyster
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serpent is an outlaw trinket

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i've gotten like 3 of them

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between raid offspec loot roll and weekly event box

bitter jetty
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Is shiv aoe de-eranging for you guys atm in M+?

tough portal
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Yeah

dusty phoenix
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idk i only stare at the meter after i press shiv

waxen oyster
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i dont even talent it as non sin

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if theres a druid or hunter in group

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not my issue

dusty phoenix
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I run AP in m+

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kinda like it on tyra weeks tbh

waxen oyster
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i alternate between outlaw and sin in keys

dusty phoenix
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since u can just press it on trash and it will actually have some value

waxen oyster
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because running 10 everblooms as the same spec

mighty nexus
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I was an ap gamer before I tried hybrid

dusty phoenix
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unlike other cds

waxen oyster
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is gonna melt my brain

dusty phoenix
waxen oyster
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also if another priest PIs me 1 global into combat as sin in keys

mighty nexus
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The extra ST damage, gotta alpha these BM hunters somehow

waxen oyster
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im gonna lose it

tough portal
waxen oyster
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its why i play more than 1 spec when farming the same place

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over and over

bitter jetty
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Oh ok I thought it was bugged. But I must be using it when some mobs aren’t enraged yet

dusty phoenix
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just macro PI on dm with @focus

mighty nexus
tough portal
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If I see those damn pants again dead

waxen oyster
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im still stuck on branch farm not even started NoT one

dusty phoenix
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got branch today finally and 1/2 nicks

waxen oyster
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"you filled your vault slots already nice"

tough portal
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Some dude in a pug didn’t need a hero champ branch, lucked out there

waxen oyster
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"why is it all everbloom on your rio"

mighty nexus
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I’m just gonna make a macro to spam everytime I get a priest in group that will mathematically explain why you shouldn’t pi me on pull

dusty phoenix
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there is a macro here somewhere

waxen oyster
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i think i've only seen the healer trinket

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and the caster one 2-3x

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str one once

dusty phoenix
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#showtoolip
/cast Deathmark
/run if UnitExists("focus") then SendChatMessage("PI", "WHISPER", nil, (GetUnitName("focus", true))) end

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just for whatever reason the showtooltip doesnt work on deathmark macros and i cant figure out why

mighty nexus
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I think you gotta do #showtooltip Deathmark in the first line

dusty phoenix
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doesnt work aswell

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i tried

mighty nexus
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I have ape brain though so idk

dusty phoenix
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but it should get the first spell after the showtooltip line as tooltip anyway which is deathmark

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its just not showing idk

mighty nexus
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good that there’s a macro for this though, now I just have to talk my priest into not macro’ing PI to some unknown priest ability starege

dusty phoenix
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good priests have PI weakauras that trigger on whispers like these

waxen oyster
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i have so many free keybinds idk how people run out of priest

mighty nexus
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I think it’s more so a being a lazy bum issue

waxen oyster
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if a ranged steals my PI on council im ducking them

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every time i get it

mighty nexus
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Purposely run into someone unducking just so you can counterduck

dusty phoenix
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I'm the only rogue in my guild and our UH stopped raiding

spice spire
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Lucky

mighty nexus
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I think the team I’m w rn PI’d the bm before I joined, dudes an absolute pumper but fuck u give me pi

dusty phoenix
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ye we also have a sick BM and I actually sometimes feel bad about getting PI every fight but man it does feel shit to play without it

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our volcross kill today I gave up pi to him and had no WF totem

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that felt soo bad

mighty nexus
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constantly eyeing the time before I get a tea charge back

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We don’t even have totem

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Unlucky

thorny aurora
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whats the option for details to not reset when we use vanish?

dusty phoenix
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dynamic overall damage

mighty nexus
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!detailsreset

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I don’t remember the command

dusty phoenix
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its under scripts

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when u add new bookmark

thorny aurora
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thanks!

slim hamlet
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Didn't expect that

mighty nexus
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!details

prisma monolithBOT
mighty nexus
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Nice

dusty phoenix
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where is that from

thorn fjord
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Sub so easy to play right now too

slim hamlet
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simulationcraft

thorn fjord
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I’m locked behind crests right now

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Got like 9% waiting lol

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It’s week 4 uncap them damnit

mighty nexus
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are we really bottom of the bucket for m+ sims rn PogO

slim hamlet
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We already were

thorn fjord
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Sub angle in Nym?

slim hamlet
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Dungeonslice sims doesn't show good numbers for sin

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Dungeonslice numbers are fake, just look at differences with it

mighty nexus
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I never really checked them tbh, I know sin is way better in content than the sims show though bc I be absolutely dunkin sometimes

dusty phoenix
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I'm pressing respec on smold

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and if it goes well I am not swapping back

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i will mental grey it out

thorn fjord
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I might try it on nym prog

slim hamlet
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It's a good day for sub faq to be updated

dusty phoenix
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ye its nice because u can get acro without a big loss

slim hamlet
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When we rolling bois?

dusty phoenix
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oh wait ur talking sub

slim hamlet
dusty phoenix
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idk why im thinking outlaw

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I was thinking about the big outlaw bar on simcraft

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mb

thorn fjord
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St sub takes acro iirc

mighty nexus
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“outl*w” censor your profanity pls

slim hamlet
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It is right

blazing jewel
dusty phoenix
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wait u simmed with PI?

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XD

slim hamlet
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I was very suprised that sub simmed 8k higher WITH sin PI

blazing jewel
thorn fjord
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Yeah

slim hamlet
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It is 20k ahead with no PI

grim jay
thorn fjord
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But I hate sending KB on the adds

slim hamlet
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rough

thorn fjord
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And don’t like holding

slim hamlet
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WAIT

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PAUSE

blazing jewel
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Kb on adds is usually fine if you game it a bit

dusty phoenix
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ye idk why u sim 209 with pi bro

slim hamlet
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I might have simmed wrong talents

dusty phoenix
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ur aoe specced

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carnage

strange python
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yo guys i knw im late to the party but whats the 3rd item u guys crafting

slim hamlet
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I am in council build

blazing jewel
dusty phoenix
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ye

slim hamlet
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Alright we are saved

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Lemme do a resimmer

dusty phoenix
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ASSA IS SAVED GUYS

blazing jewel
thorn fjord
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🤣

blazing jewel
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Alpha move lol

thorn fjord
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What else am I gonna need it for

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Fights mad easy

blazing jewel
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I normally use it to soak if someone sets off a bad chain of green ones

strange python
thorn fjord
limpid ridge
mighty nexus
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nice, my finger was on the respec button

thorn fjord
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My third craft prob gonna be ring @strange python

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But I don’t have the crests for it anyway

blazing jewel
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Ring third craft is usually the move

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Free socket

thorn fjord
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Crest wall is big sad

dusty phoenix
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yee im gonna get ring

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even tho neck sims higher because mine is dogshit

thorn fjord
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I have shit rings

dusty phoenix
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with my luck I prolly wont see socketed ring

mighty nexus
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I’m playing kazzak neck on sin starege

thorn fjord
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You guys on t swifty yet @blazing jewel

dusty phoenix
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I mean its not bad

slim hamlet
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I farmed it every sinlge day

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And all I got to show for it is 400g

blazing jewel
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I did my crafts kind of weird. Full set mythic thorn boots week 1 and then used free heroic crest on waist + ring

drifting cloud
blazing jewel
drifting cloud
thorn fjord
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Rip

mighty nexus
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I killed twice, didn’t get it, so I quit for like 6 days and went again and got it kekdog

blazing jewel
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Let me find our pull count so far

thorn fjord
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We’re progging pretty quick… should at smold by Sunday

jaunty ginkgo
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Should we prio envenom with 4p > rupture if energy is no issue in multitarget?

dusty phoenix
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I'm just starting smoldreon tmrw

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cant wait for swifty

slim hamlet
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We got fucked by blizzard, servers went down 5 mins before our raid monday

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xdd

thorn fjord
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Swift will be nerfed by the time we get there

blazing jewel
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It said 45 so our logs must have been messed up

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We’re probably around 200

slim hamlet
dusty phoenix
thorn fjord
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P3?

blazing jewel
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Almost

thorn fjord
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Gamers

normal mist
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i should be paid for this: BRH 18

blazing jewel
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We got to last seed set in p2 and were fine but there was a double soak

dusty phoenix
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literally no one cares about 18s

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u can prolly intime them with 3 aug wokers

normal mist
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aight man you a champ

lime crypt
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can someone explain this to me

mighty nexus
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sin pads hard on felbats in brh

normal mist
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i went cleave build bcs i thought they would do dmg

thorn fjord
atomic swallow
slim hamlet
thorn fjord
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The disrespect

dusty phoenix
lime crypt
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in a vid

slim hamlet
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I mean details

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oh nvm

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your tank was not in melee

normal mist
slim hamlet
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99% sure he just rando melees if tank not there

lime crypt
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he has skill

normal mist
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hunter 0 aoe dmg, mage lusts 1st second the last boss appears

dusty phoenix
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he was out of range of melee

atomic swallow
mighty nexus
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23 EB that got ragnaros’d down to a 22 EB just got ragnaros’d down to a 21 EB starege

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I think I’ve learned my lesson

dusty phoenix
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so u got slapped b4 tank ran back in

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like look at the death grip

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when he casts it he is 100% not in melee range

river nexus
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which build in tyranical high key are you guys using

mighty nexus
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hybrid build op

atomic swallow
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May I ask what hybrid build is Cozy

grim jay
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actually pretty fire

dusty phoenix
normal mist
mighty nexus
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Damn, homies fast with it

atomic swallow
slim hamlet
atomic swallow
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AOE dmg is really confusing I panic and press some buttons atm

mighty nexus
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right, I’m L gamer

mighty nexus
keen spruce
# lime crypt

that's your tank standing behind you out of melee range

slim hamlet
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That dog emote is still the best ever

keen spruce
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you're lucky taht you got melee'd instead of him casting the "kill your whole party instantly" ability

atomic swallow
keen spruce
mighty nexus
atomic swallow
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I do that frequently, I ran some dungeon today with my group but the ret and dh destroyed everything in front of me

mighty nexus
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Was it a lower key ?

atomic swallow
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At least I sorta manage how to burst

brave stump
slim hamlet
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ew

atomic swallow
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For hero gear

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But I just hit 455 today and both were 480

mighty nexus
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Ye, dh and ret will both beat you in keys where the pulls die so fast bc your damage tanks time to set up whereas ret and havoc are instant ramp

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In like 20s+ sin starts to come out ahead bc pulls live long enough for your whole rotation

atomic swallow
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Okay good I felt as an Aug dmg wise VerySadCat

waxen oyster
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beat the ret because he eats crayons and dies to something dumb

atomic swallow
waxen oyster
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i just play outlaw in lower keys then rip threat when i bte 6x in a row

mighty nexus
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480 is fat ilvl right now too, I’d probably still get beat out by a 480 havoc myself

atomic swallow
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He’s a meele that never dies when we play together

atomic swallow
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If I see a complete new spec tree I have to study again

mighty nexus
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rogue is the way tbh, we may not be the best all the time but it’s def the most fun class imo

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I get bored playing everything else

atomic swallow
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It is really really cool, I usually heal but I got sick of it and levelled a rogue for my first time

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They are awesome didn’t expect them to be that exciting to play

slim hamlet
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Welcome to the club

atomic swallow
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And being on the winning side of Tmog sets feels rewarding

slim hamlet
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Only rule is that u gotta be loot hungry as a rogue

atomic swallow
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Okay I’ll learn that

mighty nexus
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Yeah, you hit need on everything even if you don’t need

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And transmog on everything else

atomic swallow
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Got it

slim hamlet
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Personally I hit need on strength one handers and ranged weapons

atomic swallow
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Understandable

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I’ll continue the legacy

atomic swallow
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Needing on everything

slim hamlet
waxen oyster
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idk whenever i play other melee

lime crypt
wide ferry
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12 fall runs today alone....zero dagger... i wanna quit lol

waxen oyster
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i have a tendency to get meleed with pug tanks

mighty kiln
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!dagger

keen spruce
lime crypt
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ah

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fair

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idk how we still timed it

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i got punched by one of the witches too

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idk

atomic swallow
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Dodge FearlBuffed

lime crypt
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autoattack?

slim hamlet
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just evasion it

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smh

keen spruce
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witches have a bug

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where they sometimes

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just punch you when you kick them

slim hamlet
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seems like a krill issue

dusty phoenix
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i mean that sounds understantable tho

atomic swallow
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relatable I would punch someone too if they randomly kick me

lime crypt
spice spire
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Toxic mf

atomic swallow
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Sister ain’t messing around

kind forge
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How do you guys play the witches in waycrest as sin ?

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Just curious

mighty nexus
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I just dump cds on pull tbh

keen spruce
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just hit the one holding the orb

unique sorrel
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Dump everything, swap to prio, multidot for energy

waxen oyster
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doesnt it lower damage if you cleave them

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dont recall

keen spruce
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the ones that aren't holding the orb take basically no damage

unique sorrel
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They take less if they’re not holding the orb

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But energy is energy

keen spruce
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but you still get energy

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ye

kind forge
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Ye that’s what I do ofc
But feels bad if they swap before your cds end on on of them

waxen oyster
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yeah wondered why damage on them just looks lower

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esp funny as outlaw since that spec maintains flurry even on st now

keen spruce
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I normally don't have CDs going into that boss right away

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so i let other people burst the first witch

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i send whatever comes up on the 2nd

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then just send stuff on CD

atomic swallow
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The second is nastier anyway

keen spruce
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just like the rest of the dungeon

kind forge
atomic swallow
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That’s the healing reduction as far as I know

winter yacht
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dum dum question, is it normal for 2pc t30 and 2pc t31 to outsim 4pc t31 or am I doing something wrong

mighty nexus
winter yacht
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assuming roughly equal ilvl

mighty nexus
winter yacht
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hrmm.

kind forge
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Holding sounds reasonable then

mighty nexus
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The last ticks of your KB are obviously where the damage is weighted, so as long as you can get those in, you should be gaming

kind forge
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Ye but dm important aswell

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But I gotcha

mighty nexus
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Someone else probably knows a better way, like I said, I just cd dump on pull kekdog

kind forge
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Still funny enough, although we were gaming bfa hard af we can’t manage to play waycrest clean KEK we did back then though

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It’s alright my guy ✌️ thanks anyway

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Flat profile would still be better for this boss I think Shrugeg

mighty nexus
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Ye, our damage profile def cucks us in some fights Peepo_Cry

atomic swallow
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But at least we look good doing it PixVibe

turbid nymph
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Hi guys, new to assassination here, can someone explain to me how kingsbane works ? Like how does the stacking dmg works and also what is actually considered as a lethal poison (im ashamed to ask this ahah)

kind forge
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Just edgy

atomic swallow
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Of course

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Have to gather some artefact appearances

kind forge
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Have em all 2ez

atomic swallow
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I don’t just healers weapons in legion

waxen oyster
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ghostblade is best skin

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esp with illusions now

kind forge
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Ghostblade the best for me too

atomic swallow
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VerySadCat it’s very pretty

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Envy you for that

kind forge
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Weapons on the back is bis for me

atomic swallow
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Yes

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Looks so much better imo

balmy condor
forest notch
glacial grotto
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doing a 21 key with a bm hunter in the group copium

turbid nymph
balmy condor
atomic swallow
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Can’t they tame something small

glacial grotto
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everything that wasn't a boss just died

balmy condor
atomic swallow
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Like two mammoth butts in my way

balmy condor
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completely reasonable

forest notch
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ok cool

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just wanted to double check

raw cedar
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What stats would you put on a ring that you wanted to be good for all 3 specs?

arctic socket
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imma

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bust

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hard

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asf

turbid nymph
kind forge
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The sound of 2 spirit beats TheVoices

mighty nexus
atomic swallow
arctic socket
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40

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runs

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FINALLY GOT ONE

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IN A FUCKING 16

atomic swallow
raw cedar
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Sorry thresh that sux

waxen oyster
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blue ghost cat form

arctic socket
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come help me run this 16 fall for io

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Drops a nicholas

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Lmao

atomic swallow
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I am very sorry thresh

mighty nexus
atomic swallow
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I just did healers and want to try the assa one

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For the tmog

mighty nexus
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I think a lot of the recolors look like ass, but mount cool

atomic swallow
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But the challenge scares me

kind forge
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Daggers > mount though

atomic swallow
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Three targets

mighty nexus
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I don’t think it’d be too bad w sin right now tbh

arctic socket
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It looks so nice

atomic swallow
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A panda dracthyr_love_animated

split basin
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Is there a way for weak auras to tell if your garrote is improved or not and glow/not glow with pandemic accordingly?

royal lantern
mighty nexus
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I thought it was a vulpera

waxen oyster
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the mage tower recolor was nice

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but the pvp color was too goated

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black and red

arctic socket
kind forge
royal lantern
mighty nexus
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Ain’t no way that’s a panda tail

royal lantern
atomic swallow
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Black panda tail

mighty nexus
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unrealistic game, I want my money back

arctic socket
kind forge
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Better hide when tryan is here MonkaSub

royal lantern
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yes

atomic swallow
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Scatter!

peak sun
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guys, if im playing assasination and outlaw, the wrist should be crit vers, right?

arctic socket
royal lantern
mighty nexus
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robot knows all

thorny aurora
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We did reclears with some alts
Did volcoross with no Aug/pi and post nerf

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Felt so bad haha

royal lantern
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mate

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its 4%

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i doubt you feel 4%

glacial grotto
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did you even read what he said

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or just the last word

royal lantern
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how does it change anything

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if its a shity alt run with no optimized group, why look at dmg in the first place

and aug/pi have no gameplay effect beyond "Number bigger"

forest notch
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tbh I feel like my damage has gone up haha. Likely im jsut playing better or Blizzard did a +15% instead of a -15% LOL

royal lantern
turbid nymph
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I think u’re just better ahah

mighty nexus
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Yeah, the nerf was so small you really shouldn’t be able to tell outside of numbers. Something else has to be off if it felt so much worse

royal lantern
#

^

forest notch
dark token
#

I mean it was a noticeable nerf

royal lantern
#

here it goes

eager tree
#

on tyrannical weeks with packs that die quickly like the leapers in atal, do we just try and get a 1-2 cp crimson tempest out asap since itll die before we do our full normal aoe cycle of bleeds and poisons?

dark token
#

I notice it relative to rest of the raid

mighty nexus
#

Idk, maybe I have monkey brain then bc 4.4% is definitely not noticeable outside of digging into numbers

austere fulcrum
dark token
#

My DPS is still top but other classes have caught up a lot

mighty nexus
glacial grotto
#

im back where I am dps wise last week, everyone else has increased

turbid nymph
gaunt moat
#

I have a feeling assassination will see further nerfs PogO

turbid nymph
#

Nah i see more blizzard buffing others than nerfing us

austere fulcrum
#

Enjoy while here 🙂

dark token
#

Week 1

royal lantern
dark token
#

Now

#

Basically other classes closed the gap a bit more

#

Don't look at raw number

royal lantern
#

and ignore the killtimer

dark token
#

But relative to rest of raid

royal lantern
#

30seconds is nothing 🙂

mighty nexus
#

Your dps went up between the two 👀

dark token
#

Yes

gaunt moat
dark token
#

What I'm saying is yes our DPS has still increased even with nerf

#

Due to gear

#

But other classes are closer to us now

#

That's why it's noticeable

turbid nymph
#

I think thats the point of balancing

gaunt moat
#

But still we're kinda best on almost every fight.

south wing
#

people probably getting more comfortable also

mighty nexus
#

I mean, obviously our ST was nerfed 4.4%, so it went down, but rogues aren’t the only ones getting new gear and smoothing out rotational mistakes

arctic socket
#

i wish they would remove ebon might from logs

#

like they do with PI

royal lantern
dark token
#

Hunter is close or arguably better than sub on smolderon

#

Wait their st was nerfed wasn't it

royal lantern
#

idk, 99% of hunters suck and cant do their great dmg anyway

gaunt moat
#

hunter very well known as a hard class to play kekman

atomic swallow
royal lantern
#

they are busy complaining about "hunter is so squishy wtf" while having the 2nd highest dps health pool , 2deffensives and a immunity dracthyr_kek

atomic swallow
#

not falling asleep

atomic swallow
#

Surprisingly they don’t have a Lego bow since they got a SL dmg treatment

royal lantern
# gaunt moat and now hunter's mark

tbf, that was legit

either give everyone a unique buff/debuff, or remove them, not this weird halfassed shit that rogue/hunter had for some time before we got atrophic/mark

dark token
#

Atrophic is pretty weak as a buff

royal lantern
#

yes

dark token
#

When shit like arcane intellect exists

royal lantern
#

mark aswell

#

still a raidspot

dark token
#

I'd rather all go away

#

Buffs are stupid

royal lantern
#

same

atomic swallow
#

DH and Monk debuffs are nuts as well

royal lantern
#

remove all thise external shit things

atomic swallow
#

Idk why they deleted the scrolls

royal lantern
#

almost nobody really uses the monk debuff too a big degree

dark token
#

Delete buffs, delete PI, delete augs, delete lust

atomic swallow
#

Oh thought they are equivalent to each other

dark token
#

Delete raid cooldown defensives (rallying cry)

#

Delete immunes

atomic swallow
#

It fun

dark token
#

It's not fun for rogue I can barely tell the diff

atomic swallow
#

Delete Aug twice instead

dark token
#

Locked gcd

#

Delete gcd lock

#

Make our gcd hasted

royal lantern
atomic swallow
#

Ohhh

fervent jasper
#

Monk debuff would increase bleed damage right?

atomic swallow
#

Thank you I thought dh was ranged and monk melee but never considered that way of damage profiles

gaunt moat
royal lantern
#

like, assa gain from monk is not even close too comparable too the dh gain lol

royal lantern
mighty nexus
#

my discord just updated and restarted in light mode and now im blind

#

gg

atomic swallow
gaunt moat
#

I don't have issue with external unique buffs.
I just don't like it when they are personal buffs, like PI, and to a certain extent WF.
Why doesn't WF affect the whole raid? why just party?

tired falcon
#

should i overcap on cp by shiving if in the next gcd, shiv debuff will expire?

dark token
#

Yes

normal mist
#

Man i hate the LFR system

#

bring back personal loot

#

475+ dude needing on stuff 20+ ilevel below his items and winning the rolls LOL

mighty nexus
#

so your bottom dps cant yoink the brand ? no shot

magic sparrow
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
glossy imp
#

bois you think its a cooked idea to hold pot for dmg amp at gnarlroot if kill time is around 2:50? or do I just pot at the start

atomic swallow
normal mist
#

I was the tank

atomic swallow
#

Damn

#

That makes things complicated

glossy imp
mighty nexus
#

gotta point igira straight at the melees if you want the loot

atomic swallow
#

Drag the tree through lines by Nymue

#

Kite Loredar in the fire

#

Be creative

normal mist
mighty nexus
#

a true rogue main

normal mist
#

he was a dk

atomic swallow
normal mist
#

we were both dks xD

atomic swallow
#

But maybe fellow rogues

#

Hiding somewhere

#

I am very sorry for their behaviour tho that’s not nice in LFR

normal mist
#

Nah it is what it is

#

im not mad at him

twin dirge
#

is there something which reduces garrote's cd or resets it

normal mist
#

but at the system

visual shuttle
twin dirge
#

so i cant spam it on packs

normal mist
#

theres just a talent where in stealth and 3 secs after leaving stealth, you can use garrote free of CD and with the stealth perks

#

same criteria DURING dance

twin dirge
#

do rogues apply it to every mob when doing dungeons or is it too much time

mighty nexus
#

I usually do 2 garrotes and 2 ruptures with IC talented

twin dirge
#

like in a big pull

mighty nexus
#

anything more is a waste of time imo

stable storm
#

guys how much damage % difference overall is there between the arterial shock and hybrid builds? (on wowhead)

normal mist
#

with IC talent you spread it really quickly

twin dirge
#

ok

dusk edge
#

Is there a specific amount I should aim for when it comes to Secondaries? I'm currently sitting at 44% Crit/46%Mast/18%haste/4% Vers

steel stump
#

Sim it

#

but mastery seems low, do you use the mastery weapon runes

dusk edge
#

Sim stats? I thought they took that out

#

I do use mast runes

steel stump
#

no you can still do it

#

for educational purpose

modest gale
#

Quick sim u can do

dusk edge
#

Alright, thanks guys 😄

balmy condor
#

Please don’t fucking do that

#

Stat weights are terrible

mortal venture
#

uh oh

steel stump
#

but yeah sim droptimizer instead

balmy condor
#

Why would you suggest it

#

It’s so easy to not be braindead about it

#

There’s a huge banner

#

Just

#

Fucking don’t

mortal venture
#

Why havent they removed it

balmy condor
#

Beats the hell out of me

strange python
#

i got a fat question

balmy condor
#

They should’ve removed it years ago

balmy condor
#

Be like that

toxic compass
#

Because why not?

hasty fiber
#

cuz sub doing better than ur assa gear?

strange python
#

even with full recrafts

#

to sin stat prios

#

i dont think that makes up 16k dps

balmy condor
#

Yeah probably not

steel stump
#

I bet if you get a branch they'll be the same

#

for me it was like 15k dps diff ST

#

vs awful trinkets

surreal citrus
#

no banch? sadbois

strange python
#

ive seen it drop 6 times

#

never for me tho shiba_copium

surreal citrus
mystic lion
#

anyone noticing much dps loss with the kingsbane nerf?

strange python
#

branch at 483 is 10k more dps so at least close

toxic compass
#

Let's not talk about branch. I'm getting sad enough as is with not getting anything in general in 2 weeks. Let alone seeing branch drop every run and someone else getting it lol

balmy condor
waxen oyster
#

never see branch drop

steel stump
#

I have 2 kekdog

toxic compass
#

^ Found the branch that none of us are ever going to get.

waxen oyster
#

blackwater helm #20

#

or leafmender mantle

steel stump
#

Got it hours before reset then got it again on myth track in vault, pepega

atomic swallow
#

Just pick one

mighty nexus
#

I got my branch like 35ish runs in

#

issa tough one

waxen oyster
#

its funny how theres a str and int branch too

atomic swallow
#

I got just a tiny branch from a +10 or so

#

Not much but honest work

toxic compass
atomic swallow
#

Agreed

delicate acorn
#

I find it hard to actually see the orbs in a raid encounter

#

Feels like I am just "hoping" the orbs are where I think they are

balmy condor
#

They spawn in fixed spots

rotund torrent
#

guys u go into orb on branch or just wait them come to u?

delicate acorn
#

Yeah its mostly the 3rd one that I just have a hard time to keep track on

balmy condor
#

You just let that one hit you

delicate acorn
#

Hmm okey, I will try that

latent bane
#

I have been reading the guides do we shiv on cd outside of the kingsbane and for pooling do we keep envenom up and slow go up or let it fall off and just keep bleeds up till we hit a certain energy cap

limber lion
#

!pooling

prisma monolithBOT
#

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

  • If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
  • Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
  • Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
  • With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use
mighty nexus
#

Nymue is the only fight I have a hard time seeing orbs on, and when I do manage to see them, they always belong to another dps starege

latent bane
#

Ty ty

junior yoke
#

atomic swallow
#

That comes with practice I suppose? I don’t really have the feeling yet to hold envenom

dark token
#

You don't look at ur orbs ever btw

#

You just know where they are and listen for a sound when u pick em up

rancid spade
#

its snake trinket good by far?

balmy condor
#

It’s okay

simple stratus
#

!runes

#

F

balmy condor
#

Sim yourself okay

runic hinge
#

!whispyr

timid talon
#

its better than not having a trinket on, I can confirm that much

native flax
#

How high does pips rank for us?
In raid

glass fulcrum
strange python
#

factored in to the sim

urban bay
glass fulcrum
#

i don't recommend recraft old gear set for some reason those balance item not sim really high use drop optimizer and the bis list.

#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
twin dirge
#

i have a stupid idea

#

make a boss have a chance to drop a token or something which rogues can loot, use to trade for whatever is popular. branches or whatever in a specially created rogue market.

#

that way you can gear up faster than the other plebs

#

so essentially a rogue exclusive mechanic

#

for loot loot lol

surreal citrus
#

no no let us pickpocket gear from other people

velvet ridge
#

how do you guys tricks, do you focus macro? thats how i rocked, but im trying to free up my focus for other things, is there a way to @ Target tank /tricks

scarlet solstice
#

I just forget I have it and get my skull rocked by the boss

twin dirge
#

speciall hidden rogue technique. set the dice, stack the deck. - 1 week cd. effect - you roll 100 on any item dropped

#

get your item 100% of the time just for 7 days 😄

static hedge
#

Is there a certain point where vers becomes less important? I'm crafting engi bracers and simming best stat and right now vers is best secondary, followed by mast. I dont want to make the vers bracers and then vers falls off at a certain %. I just dont want to keep recrafting just for stats. Im probably over thinking, thoughts?

atomic swallow
#

evil laughing

twin dirge
lusty ermine
#

why is it with the branch trinket they say to instantly get 2 orbs then kite 3rd, vs getting one orb, kiting a bit then getting the 2nd, kite a bit then get 3rd?

gaunt moat
#

cause the bonus stacks twice

lusty ermine
#

but wouldn't it last longer if you kite starting after the first orb?

lucid rain
#

presumably having a bigger bonus sooner in kb is worth more than extending it to be in your downtime

static glacier
#

Yes but we do negative dmg outside of cds

gaunt moat
#

bigger bonus > longer bonus

static glacier
#

Mastery during kingsbane matters

lusty ermine
#

ahhhh

#

so why not just get all 3 in that case?

static glacier
#

We’d not cover the end of kingsbane

gaunt moat
#

cause it stacks twice, as i just said

static glacier
#

If we got all three right away

lusty ermine
#

gotcha

#

just got a mythic one is vault and am looking to see how to use it

static glacier
#

Macro it with dm, run forward and right / left to the first or - strafe to the second

#

Then run into the third one at 10s kingsbane

gaunt moat
#

My advice on using branch: Unequip, put in bank, use ashes instead 👌🏻

turbid nymph
#

Do u guys spam fan of knives in aoe to build combo points when there is already caustic on target ?

warm shard
#

how do you guys effectively dps council

#

do you just focus on rupture and garroe uptime?

limpid ridge
limpid ridge
#

Its a 2 target cleave fight at best

#

ST when your tank has no braincells

warm shard
#

❤️

old halo
#

get ducked , rip parse

limpid ridge
#

or that

#

Parsing Council isnt something I'd ever do lmao

old halo
#

i try carnage on it but still meh

gaunt moat
#

from council today. nerf elemental shaman please

novel wave
#

should i swap a champion witherbark branch for a hero level crab because i dont ever play around balls ideally

smoky leaf
#

how do you guys do cd timings on smolderon? or you just dont play sin on smold

#

seems so scuffed

limpid ridge
#

huh?

#

Its full uptime fight

fallen charm
#

for hc the kingsbane alignes perfectly

#

idk about mythic

smoky leaf
#

so just send cd's off cd and DM on pull?

fallen charm
#

yup

smoky leaf
#

feels like i ahve to dance out of the fire rings during KB and feels scuffed

fallen charm
#

you are melle, it's not your job to run away with the tornadoes

limpid ridge
sonic zinc
arctic tusk
#

is ashes better if you had to use the trinket once?

#

basically opener vs opener which is better

#

branch or ashes

#

ignoring the next minute debuff

gaunt moat
#

Branch
Doubt the debuff from ashes matters that much

grizzled mist
#

has anyone felt like they are hitting like a wet noodle since the nerf?

timid talon
#

Yeah like a noodle thats <4% wetter

grizzled mist
#

clever

tough gorge
#

Lose out to havoc slightly more than before I suppose

devout prism
#

same thing that happens a lot- popping off early and getting nerfed all the while other specs scale better into a tier and ride the unnerfed train all the way to victory

gaunt moat
tall jay
#

Silly question for the gods in the channel. Is the only “change” in talents for raid is to take splatter over the other one in its bubble?

burnt venture
#

for cleave fights yes

#

council there's a funky build with IC

tall jay
#

Oh that’s what we are on tomorrow

old halo
#

carnage for coucil is pretty good

burnt venture
#

oh for sure, I'd say IC is well worth on council

old halo
#

just dont get ducked

tall jay
#

Ic

#

?

burnt venture
#

There's 3 raid builds basically. Pure ST with IB instead of spatter, cleave build with spatter instead of IB, and Council build

#

I think that covers them?

gaunt moat
burnt venture
old halo
dreamy quail
#

what is range on caustic spatter?

tall jay
#

Ah cool ty

balmy condor
dreamy quail
#

i didnt see it in the talent note

balmy condor
dreamy quail
#

ty

gaunt moat
#

(From the target hit, not from you)

jade wadi
#

what build is everyone playing in keys this week? 20+ that is. just wondering.

tall jay
#

Whispyr raiding tonight?

old halo
#

aertial shock, i think it is described as

gaunt moat
timid talon
old halo
#

dh's still kill sheet too mast

jade wadi
#

sounds good all! ty

balmy condor
#

Whispyr work Wednesdays

spice spire
urban bay
#

Do we use dungeon slice to sim for m+ as sin?

south wing
spice spire
balmy condor
quaint hull
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
quiet sand
#

Would a 483 ashes be better than a 483 Branch? It sims lower, but most people seem to be using ashes isntead of branch in raid.

spice spire
#

You’re getting me over someone (the love of my life)

#

Rebound time

balmy condor
#

Amen, we’ll have you gay by end of week

spice spire
balmy condor
quiet sand
urban bay
#

Does Acro strikes effect spatter?

brazen zodiac
#

;c

spice spire
#

Did I have a stroke

deep topaz
#

i just refunded my 12-month wow sub and now going to refund war within expac after post nut clarity

spice spire
#

Real

deep topaz
#

$169 on wow sub could you believe that ? idk what i was thinking haha

ember mural
hushed dirge
#

What stats do I put on my crafted wrist with?

south wing
#

Spirit/Resilience

#

Enchant for mp5

hushed dirge
#

Wrong game

balmy condor
#

Whatever you want tbh

#

Assa doesn’t have bad stats

spice spire
#

Int

#

Checkmate pal

tall jay
#

But int makes us smarter? No

balmy condor
#

Maybe that’s what this channel needs

#

Just a solid int stat stick

#

Like a staff

nova flax
balmy condor
balmy condor
#

I hate that

tall jay
#

So, in raid today the feral Druid rolled need on an int staff

split cipher
#

I roll on int daggers cuz they look pretty

balmy condor
unreal imp
#

Cleave build with Improved Ambush showing up on subcreation this week, Tight Spender seems to be the default reccommended otherwise though, any/much difference?

spice spire
#

Me personally? I woke up

nova flax
#

She smolder-on my ________ until my kingsbane tindrals

balmy condor
nova flax
#

Based

#

Stealing that ty

arctic tusk
#

can I IC all the council bosses on opener

#

are they even close enough

nova flax
eager solstice
#

any bad luck protection on nick of time? i've done like 50

arctic tusk
#

then

gaunt moat
#

@slate crown I was convinced to craft ring as well.

slate crown
serene hinge
#

so....

#

in mythic council

#

what am i supposed to be doing? lol

#

do i keep bleeds on all 3?

#

or is it just fuck it to the straggler and focus on the 2 stacked?

balmy condor
#

If it’s nearby go for it

serene hinge
#

caustic spatter still worth?

gaunt moat
#

you bleed multiple when possible (with carnage)
rest of the time you attack a single target and cleave on the bear.

serene hinge
#

or nah

arctic tusk
#

been hearing tight spender is good after blindside nerf

#

i woupld assume ambush still better on this fight

#

too much free energy

#

this fight being council

balmy condor
#

Really can run either

#

It still simming worse for me

unreal imp
#

I just ran one sim, they're basically the same

#

0.1% diff

serene hinge
#

oh hmmm

gaunt moat
#

Blizz balanced too well peepomad

serene hinge
#

so we can drop dashing scoundrel for IC?

unreal imp
#

Checking another variation though

serene hinge
#

didnt try that

outer lodge
keen spruce
gaunt moat
#

i placed it on the ring

polar matrix
#

Pi is been knocked down a bit on Assass right?

gaunt moat
#

got a mythic belt from 1st week vault

keen spruce
#

wat

#

my immersion

gaunt moat
keen spruce
#

that's for cocaine

gaunt moat
#

What do you think alchemical flavor is

keen spruce
#

that's like the opposite of flavor

#

smh

unreal imp
royal python
#

Hi - had a question around any interaction between subterfuge n nightstalker. If i garotte, garotte, rupture, do the two bleeds benefit from the nightstalker amplification

gaunt moat
#

!snapshot

prisma monolithBOT
#

Explanation of snapshotting

Bleeds update their tick rate dynamically, which means that if you get a haste proc (which increases our tick rate) from somewhere during the encounter (ie. Flagellation, Euphoria), the bleeds would automatically tick faster, but the second your haste goes back to normal, the tick rate goes back down as well.

Snapshotting refers to getting that haste proc, reapplying bleeds at the faster tick rate, but instead of the bleeds going back to a slower tick rate when your haste drops, they would continue ticking at a faster rate until they expire or are reapplied.

gaunt moat
#

i thought it would mention NS
but yes

old halo
#

i was rockin that talent point on a n 18 lol

drifting cosmos
#

!up

novel veldt
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
serene hinge
#

lol well we killed it and i did shit

#

zzzzz

#

no idea how to play this lol

gaunt moat
#

wanna know what was my parse last week on council?

mighty nexus
#

I bet mines worse

gaunt moat
serene hinge
#

gray and not really understanding why is feelsbad lol

mighty nexus
#

You got me beat pal

#

But mines still ass OMEGAKEKW

gaunt moat
#

I improved it today at least hah

#

76%. not amazing, but like, hard to compete with previous parses after the nerfs and aug fixes.

mighty nexus
#

I got unducked on twice right after I sent KB starege

#

Never been closer to throwing a monitor

serene hinge
#

yeah same

#

but i was sucking it up big time before that

#

so that was just a sign that i could give up

proven carbon
#

is there a generalized m+ build I could run on sin?
i usually outlaw every m+ but i thought i'd try out sin

proven carbon
feral mason
#

if you are running him through low keys id advise to keep playing outlaw starege

arctic tusk
#

anyone here got a 480

#

or 481

#

sim

#

they could send me

feral mason
#

sin in low keys is infuriating

arctic tusk
#

i just wanna compare

#

something

proven carbon
feral mason
#

just play the arterial m+ build if you really want to play sin but like

#

wouldnt recommend it kekdog

proven carbon
#

sadge

hasty gate
#

i just run hybrid in low keys

feral mason
#

“Oh i pressed kingsbane shiv” “oh shit the mob is dead and im doing shitton less damage”

#

couldn’t even send my full dm kb on a good chunk of enemies in 22s last tyr week