#assassination
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challenge; find your branch orbs in hc nymue with 4 other Tauren melees standing on top of you
I'm too stupid for smolderon I think
If melees soak ecerything
And you have literally no soace
I lost signet roll with a 98 earlier today 
But tbh
branch on larodar scuffed aswell
I played with acro so I can stand farther back and give myself a chance to see the lines
idk
The worst Part of nymue i melee
not rly feeling branch atm
BM with stupidly big double cows <<
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
SEEING THE ZOOS AND FUCKING DHS AND NOT IMPORTANT THINGS
This is worse
@balmy condor when do we want to use ashes trinket?^^
WHERE TRANSPERSNT PLAYERS AND PETS GOD DAMNIT BLIZZSRD
larodar is a boring fight tbh
its just wait for your ranged to learn how to do the hose
the bm hunter in my raid said rogue players are boomers because we dont have buttons 
3 secs into KB
whoop
wrong copy pasta
this one
has he seen outlaw players
council with pugs is fucking toxic too, I got ducked at the start of my KB windows twice bc people don’t know how to unduck away from everyone else
adderall huffing spammers
I had to swap from outlaw because my wrist got really bad
2 weeks into season release
thanks ❤️
How many buttons do BM hunters have these days?
Like 5
Not many
And its Literally face roll
Its really payphone
As long as you keep your frenzy Stacks up
It’s like 5 buttons and 3 of them will spike you to 700k dps in m+
he was just mad because he is our duck player on council
Oh good, compared to Mut’s like 10+ buttons
serves him right. become the zoo
and after he complained about having to do it I said its not rly much different to bm hunter gameplay since he still has 2 buttons
he got rly mad
i fucking HATE council
legit fucking worst council fight out of all of them
holy fucking shit I can not stand it
yea and the bosses constantly jumping away
idk im hitting dryad
tanks not being able to grp 2 because of frontals and ppl complaining
I don’t get how some of you guys parse so well on council. I’m absolute ass on that fight
The advantage being bm over survival is not getting meleed by critter in atal dazar
Tank fight
If your tanks don’t stack them it’s insta doomed
Well yeah, this is the ass channel
ye u legit cant parse if tanks cant keep 2 stacked
larodar feels like a tank fight slightly

not only was sandlgass better but i had assumed sandglass/coiled serpent were better than signet brand in m+ and coiled serpent simmed worse than signet brand lol
i watch kill vids and their melee have perma uptime outside charges
Im just going full ST not Even playing Spatter on council😂 hard nuking piiiip
lol
The real problem here is you’re implying that you don’t have an on-use
yeah idk how it feels to have non troll tanks
idk larodar felt fine for us but I legit cant on council
like our tanks are alright but man they make me aggressive
larodar depends on how many braincells your ranged have
on council
the sim was ashes + one of those passives just wasn't sure which before
Okay good good
serpent is an outlaw trinket
i've gotten like 3 of them
between raid offspec loot roll and weekly event box
Is shiv aoe de-eranging for you guys atm in M+?
Yeah
idk i only stare at the meter after i press shiv
i dont even talent it as non sin
if theres a druid or hunter in group
not my issue

i alternate between outlaw and sin in keys
since u can just press it on trash and it will actually have some value
because running 10 everblooms as the same spec
I was an ap gamer before I tried hybrid
unlike other cds
is gonna melt my brain
what do you like more on hybrid
also if another priest PIs me 1 global into combat as sin in keys
The extra ST damage, gotta alpha these BM hunters somehow
im gonna lose it
That’s how I feel with Fall, my brain is absolutely smoothened hunting for my first NoT 
Oh ok I thought it was bugged. But I must be using it when some mobs aren’t enraged yet
just macro PI on dm with @focus
best I can do is uhhhh 2 seconds before pull 
If I see those damn pants again 
im still stuck on branch farm not even started NoT one
got branch today finally and 1/2 nicks
"you filled your vault slots already nice"
Some dude in a pug didn’t need a hero champ branch, lucked out there
"why is it all everbloom on your rio"
I’m just gonna make a macro to spam everytime I get a priest in group that will mathematically explain why you shouldn’t pi me on pull
there is a macro here somewhere
#showtoolip
/cast Deathmark
/run if UnitExists("focus") then SendChatMessage("PI", "WHISPER", nil, (GetUnitName("focus", true))) end
just for whatever reason the showtooltip doesnt work on deathmark macros and i cant figure out why
I think you gotta do #showtooltip Deathmark in the first line
I have ape brain though so idk
but it should get the first spell after the showtooltip line as tooltip anyway which is deathmark
its just not showing idk
good that there’s a macro for this though, now I just have to talk my priest into not macro’ing PI to some unknown priest ability 
good priests have PI weakauras that trigger on whispers like these
like that one https://wago.io/f5SA1p-ye/
i have so many free keybinds idk how people run out of priest
I think it’s more so a being a lazy bum issue
Purposely run into someone unducking just so you can counterduck
Lucky
I think the team I’m w rn PI’d the bm before I joined, dudes an absolute pumper but fuck u give me pi
ye we also have a sick BM and I actually sometimes feel bad about getting PI every fight but man it does feel shit to play without it
our volcross kill today I gave up pi to him and had no WF totem
that felt soo bad
constantly eyeing the time before I get a tea charge back

We don’t even have totem
Unlucky
whats the option for details to not reset when we use vanish?
dynamic overall damage
yea same dude
Didn't expect that
!details
To stop details from resetting on vanish, go into the settings and under Overall Data, make sure "Use Dynamic Overall Damage" is checked.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1173432355785027584/details_vanish.png
Nice
where is that from
Sub so easy to play right now too
simulationcraft
I’m locked behind crests right now
Got like 9% waiting lol
It’s week 4 uncap them damnit
are we really bottom of the bucket for m+ sims rn 
We already were
Sub angle in Nym?
Dungeonslice sims doesn't show good numbers for sin
Dungeonslice numbers are fake, just look at differences with it
I never really checked them tbh, I know sin is way better in content than the sims show though bc I be absolutely dunkin sometimes
I'm pressing respec on smold
and if it goes well I am not swapping back
i will mental grey it out
I might try it on nym prog
It's a good day for sub faq to be updated
ye its nice because u can get acro without a big loss
When we rolling bois?
oh wait ur talking sub

idk why im thinking outlaw
I was thinking about the big outlaw bar on simcraft
mb
St sub takes acro iirc
209 with pi is kinda tough
“outl*w” censor your profanity pls
It is right
Both are fine
I was very suprised that sub simmed 8k higher WITH sin PI
Sub has more burst for adds sin has more for boss
Yeah
It is 20k ahead with no PI
well im at 210 without pi 
But I hate sending KB on the adds
rough
And don’t like holding
Kb on adds is usually fine if you game it a bit
ye idk why u sim 209 with pi bro
yo guys i knw im late to the party but whats the 3rd item u guys crafting
I am in council build
You can shadowstep a ranged early so you can dot the adds before the tank is even there
ye
ASSA IS SAVED GUYS
I just blow cloak

🤣
Alpha move lol
I normally use it to soak if someone sets off a bad chain of green ones
was thinking the same vers mastery stats on it aswell
We are saved
Sin with PI is 1.4 ahead
Oh nah we were talking mythic nym

nice, my finger was on the respec button
My third craft prob gonna be ring @strange python
But I don’t have the crests for it anyway
Crest wall is big sad
I have shit rings
with my luck I prolly wont see socketed ring
I’m playing kazzak neck on sin 
You guys on t swifty yet @blazing jewel
I mean its not bad
I did my crafts kind of weird. Full set mythic thorn boots week 1 and then used free heroic crest on waist + ring
hes prob 200+ in deep
Have been for a while 

Rip
I killed twice, didn’t get it, so I quit for like 6 days and went again and got it 
Let me find our pull count so far
We’re progging pretty quick… should at smold by Sunday
Should we prio envenom with 4p > rupture if energy is no issue in multitarget?
Swift will be nerfed by the time we get there


P3?
Almost
Gamers
i should be paid for this: BRH 18
We got to last seed set in p2 and were fine but there was a double soak
aight man you a champ
sin pads hard on felbats in brh
i went cleave build bcs i thought they would do dmg
You got spit on
Tank ran out of range I think
check your death log
The disrespect
didnt mean it in a disrespecting way
all good. Hunter had the same ilvl as me, mage was a bit lower, neither had a single idea what they had to do
99% sure he just rando melees if tank not there
he has skill
hunter 0 aoe dmg, mage lusts 1st second the last boss appears
your tank moved out and deathgripped an add
he was out of range of melee
How you do so much overall in these key ranges, I barely managed 100k with a ret in the group 
23 EB that got ragnaros’d down to a 22 EB just got ragnaros’d down to a 21 EB 
I think I’ve learned my lesson
and u were 2nd on threat by looking at dps meter
so u got slapped b4 tank ran back in
like look at the death grip
when he casts it he is 100% not in melee range
which build in tyranical high key are you guys using
hybrid build op
May I ask what hybrid build is 
did some runs with the cleave build from wowhead
actually pretty fire
wowhead guide has all builds in it
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
Its not that high honestly, since most of these dungeons have bosses that take extra dmg
Damn, homies fast with it
Thank you all 
smh imagine not always having the guide open to speedrun
AOE dmg is really confusing I panic and press some buttons atm
right, I’m L gamer
With the hybrid build, your aoe rotation is essentially your single target rotation
That dog emote is still the best ever
you're lucky taht you got melee'd instead of him casting the "kill your whole party instantly" ability
Okay I guess I try that one, I tried the cleave build but I ducked with the shiv usage
It all comes with time tbh, when I first started the spec I just sat in front of a target dummy for like 3 hours and you’re pretty much good from there
I do that frequently, I ran some dungeon today with my group but the ret and dh destroyed everything in front of me
Was it a lower key ?
At least I sorta manage how to burst

ew
17ish
For hero gear
But I just hit 455 today and both were 480
Ye, dh and ret will both beat you in keys where the pulls die so fast bc your damage tanks time to set up whereas ret and havoc are instant ramp
In like 20s+ sin starts to come out ahead bc pulls live long enough for your whole rotation
Okay good I felt as an Aug dmg wise 
beat the ret because he eats crayons and dies to something dumb
He’s a tanky boy unfortunately
i just play outlaw in lower keys then rip threat when i bte 6x in a row
480 is fat ilvl right now too, I’d probably still get beat out by a 480 havoc myself
He’s a meele that never dies when we play together
I never touched the other specs, I am efficiently one week on that rogue 
If I see a complete new spec tree I have to study again
rogue is the way tbh, we may not be the best all the time but it’s def the most fun class imo
I get bored playing everything else
It is really really cool, I usually heal but I got sick of it and levelled a rogue for my first time
They are awesome didn’t expect them to be that exciting to play
Welcome to the club
And being on the winning side of Tmog sets feels rewarding
Only rule is that u gotta be loot hungry as a rogue
Okay I’ll learn that
Yeah, you hit need on everything even if you don’t need
And transmog on everything else
Got it
Personally I hit need on strength one handers and ranged weapons
Needing on everything
idk whenever i play other melee
shouldnt the boss cast consume all, if tank is out of melee range?
12 fall runs today alone....zero dagger... i wanna quit lol
i have a tendency to get meleed with pug tanks
!dagger
apparently if someone is in range he gonna take a smack at you first 
ah
fair
idk how we still timed it
i got punched by one of the witches too
idk
Dodge 
autoattack?
seems like a krill issue
i mean that sounds understantable tho
relatable I would punch someone too if they randomly kick me
Toxic mf
Sister ain’t messing around
I just dump cds on pull tbh
Dump everything, swap to prio, multidot for energy
the ones that aren't holding the orb take basically no damage
Ye that’s what I do ofc
But feels bad if they swap before your cds end on on of them
yeah wondered why damage on them just looks lower
esp funny as outlaw since that spec maintains flurry even on st now
I normally don't have CDs going into that boss right away
so i let other people burst the first witch
i send whatever comes up on the 2nd
then just send stuff on CD
The second is nastier anyway
That sounds reasonable
That’s the healing reduction as far as I know
dum dum question, is it normal for 2pc t30 and 2pc t31 to outsim 4pc t31 or am I doing something wrong
I mean, you could hold your cds for the 2nd swap if you wanted. She says a line right before she becomes active, so you can cd dump as she’s saying the line to be able to get the last ticks of KB in
assuming roughly equal ilvl
Seems like you’re doing something wrong. 4p simmed 4K higher for me over 2p2p
hrmm.
Ye I actually know the lines from bfa
Holding sounds reasonable then
The last ticks of your KB are obviously where the damage is weighted, so as long as you can get those in, you should be gaming
Someone else probably knows a better way, like I said, I just cd dump on pull 
Still funny enough, although we were gaming bfa hard af we can’t manage to play waycrest clean
we did back then though
It’s alright my guy ✌️ thanks anyway
Flat profile would still be better for this boss I think 
Ye, our damage profile def cucks us in some fights 
But at least we look good doing it 
Hi guys, new to assassination here, can someone explain to me how kingsbane works ? Like how does the stacking dmg works and also what is actually considered as a lethal poison (im ashamed to ask this ahah)
It’s bc of the daggers for sure
Just edgy
Have em all 
I don’t just healers weapons in legion
Ghostblade the best for me too
Weapons on the back is bis for me
it's an additive 20% per lethal poison application, so the ones you apply with a 1 hour duration to your weapons
Any sim experts tell me why this is right? Why is this mastery ring not better for me than the haste ring when I have not so much mastery. Seems wrong based on what our estimated stat prios are but I also know stat prios are based on gear. https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/n2LhidTm5MEL9ZsY4iDecX
doing a 21 key with a bm hunter in the group 
Oh ok so thats why u envenom before kingsbane right ? Ty
you envenom before in order to maintain the buff throughout the entire kingsbane, yes
I hate when they have huge ass pets
Can’t they tame something small
everything that wasn't a boss just died
all your crafted stuff is mastery and you're gemmed and enchanted mastery, and you have a branch
Like two mammoth butts in my way
completely reasonable
What stats would you put on a ring that you wanted to be good for all 3 specs?
Ok i get it now ty bro ure a boss
The sound of 2 spirit beats 
every time I see ghostblades and realize I can never get them, I want to roll a diff class

Agreed on any mage tower I havent done
F
Sorry thresh that sux
blue ghost cat form
I am very sorry thresh
I’ve got all the new mage tower done just bc I wanted to flex the mount 
Ohhh damn
I just did healers and want to try the assa one
For the tmog
I think a lot of the recolors look like ass, but mount cool
But the challenge scares me
Daggers > mount though
I don’t think it’d be too bad w sin right now tbh
It looks so nice
A panda 
Is there a way for weak auras to tell if your garrote is improved or not and glow/not glow with pandemic accordingly?
L take
shity loot is temporary, tmog and mounts are forever
I thought it was a vulpera
i would rather jump then play a vulpera
I meant the tmog (ghostblades) 
wow gamers are so out of shape, jumping is a threat
Ain’t no way that’s a panda tail

unrealistic game, I want my money back
I'm not the average looking wow gamer
Better hide when tryan is here 
Scatter!
guys, if im playing assasination and outlaw, the wrist should be crit vers, right?
what ever the robot tells you to do
grab w/e you want for outlaw really, assa doesnt really care for secondarys
robot knows all
We did reclears with some alts
Did volcoross with no Aug/pi and post nerf
Felt so bad haha
how does it change anything
if its a shity alt run with no optimized group, why look at dmg in the first place
and aug/pi have no gameplay effect beyond "Number bigger"
tbh I feel like my damage has gone up haha. Likely im jsut playing better or Blizzard did a +15% instead of a -15% LOL
weekly vault gear+gear upgrades
I think u’re just better ahah
Yeah, the nerf was so small you really shouldn’t be able to tell outside of numbers. Something else has to be off if it felt so much worse
^
true ya
I mean it was a noticeable nerf
here it goes
on tyrannical weeks with packs that die quickly like the leapers in atal, do we just try and get a 1-2 cp crimson tempest out asap since itll die before we do our full normal aoe cycle of bleeds and poisons?
I notice it relative to rest of the raid
Idk, maybe I have monkey brain then bc 4.4% is definitely not noticeable outside of digging into numbers
Robot wants me go full haste versa , i surprise everytime really
My DPS is still top but other classes have caught up a lot
the robot has spoken my brother
im back where I am dps wise last week, everyone else has increased
Maybe they are playing better/better gear
I have a feeling assassination will see further nerfs 
Nah i see more blizzard buffing others than nerfing us
We knew it since day one
Enjoy while here 🙂
Week 1
probs splatter a few % down somewhere down the line
and ignore the killtimer
But relative to rest of raid
30seconds is nothing 🙂
Your dps went up between the two 👀
Yes
That's what i expected to happen for the nerf we got, but instead we had a KB nerf.
so yeah, very probable.
What I'm saying is yes our DPS has still increased even with nerf
Due to gear
But other classes are closer to us now
That's why it's noticeable
I think thats the point of balancing
But still we're kinda best on almost every fight.
people probably getting more comfortable also
I mean, obviously our ST was nerfed 4.4%, so it went down, but rogues aren’t the only ones getting new gear and smoothing out rotational mistakes
eh
sub on smoldy BY FAR
argurably for tswift aswell
Hunter is close or arguably better than sub on smolderon
Wait their st was nerfed wasn't it
idk, 99% of hunters suck and cant do their great dmg anyway
hunter very well known as a hard class to play 
They have a hard rotation okay
they are busy complaining about "hunter is so squishy wtf" while having the 2nd highest dps health pool , 2deffensives and a immunity 
not falling asleep
and now hunter's mark
Surprisingly they don’t have a Lego bow since they got a SL dmg treatment
tbf, that was legit
either give everyone a unique buff/debuff, or remove them, not this weird halfassed shit that rogue/hunter had for some time before we got atrophic/mark
Atrophic is pretty weak as a buff
yes
When shit like arcane intellect exists
same
DH and Monk debuffs are nuts as well
remove all thise external shit things
Idk why they deleted the scrolls
DH yes, monk no, monk is 1 of the worst
almost nobody really uses the monk debuff too a big degree
Delete buffs, delete PI, delete augs, delete lust
Oh thought they are equivalent to each other
Lust can stay 
It fun
It's not fun for rogue I can barely tell the diff
Delete Aug twice instead
dh is magic dmg
all ranged dps except hunter do magic dmg, all melee dps except a couple do over 50% of their dmg as magic dmg
only hunter/outlaw/fury/arms gain something from monk debuff
Ohhh
Monk debuff would increase bleed damage right?
Thank you I thought dh was ranged and monk melee but never considered that way of damage profiles
problem is, you gotta have those, or you'd just see a stack of 15 assassination rogues.
like, assa gain from monk is not even close too comparable too the dh gain lol
idk man, we had no externals for 2expansions with even WORSE balancing and that didnt happen
Damn so I have to like these adhd people
Have u seen uunaat mythic kill
I don't have issue with external unique buffs.
I just don't like it when they are personal buffs, like PI, and to a certain extent WF.
Why doesn't WF affect the whole raid? why just party?
should i overcap on cp by shiving if in the next gcd, shiv debuff will expire?
Yes
Man i hate the LFR system
bring back personal loot
475+ dude needing on stuff 20+ ilevel below his items and winning the rolls LOL
so your bottom dps cant yoink the brand ? no shot
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
bois you think its a cooked idea to hold pot for dmg amp at gnarlroot if kill time is around 2:50? or do I just pot at the start
You have to die and play like a headless chicken to be blessed by the loot gods
I was the tank
It's not cooked
word?
gotta point igira straight at the melees if you want the loot
When i asked him if he could give me like 1 item from the 2/3 he got, since he wouldnt be using them, he said "if i can need on items, i will"

a true rogue main
he was a dk
So I learned that is a rogue
we were both dks xD
But maybe fellow rogues
Hiding somewhere
I am very sorry for their behaviour tho that’s not nice in LFR
is there something which reduces garrote's cd or resets it
but at the system
Hey guys.
am i wrong here ?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sejn6LJZ4pRJqdAxBoUoFq
i thought nick of time dagger x2 in 483 was better then a cruel dreamcarver in 489 ?
so i cant spam it on packs
theres just a talent where in stealth and 3 secs after leaving stealth, you can use garrote free of CD and with the stealth perks
same criteria DURING dance
do rogues apply it to every mob when doing dungeons or is it too much time
I usually do 2 garrotes and 2 ruptures with IC talented
like in a big pull
anything more is a waste of time imo
guys how much damage % difference overall is there between the arterial shock and hybrid builds? (on wowhead)
with IC talent you spread it really quickly
ok
Is there a specific amount I should aim for when it comes to Secondaries? I'm currently sitting at 44% Crit/46%Mast/18%haste/4% Vers
Quick sim u can do
Alright, thanks guys 😄
uh oh
but yeah sim droptimizer instead
Why would you suggest it
It’s so easy to not be braindead about it
There’s a huge banner
Just
Fucking don’t
Why havent they removed it
Beats the hell out of me
i got a fat question
They should’ve removed it years ago
why is sub massively outsimming my sin top gear
Be like that
Because why not?
cuz sub doing better than ur assa gear?
Yeah probably not
I bet if you get a branch they'll be the same
for me it was like 15k dps diff ST
vs awful trinkets
no banch? sadbois

anyone noticing much dps loss with the kingsbane nerf?
branch at 483 is 10k more dps so at least close
Let's not talk about branch. I'm getting sad enough as is with not getting anything in general in 2 weeks. Let alone seeing branch drop every run and someone else getting it lol
Yeah 4% worth of it
never see branch drop
I have 2 
^ Found the branch that none of us are ever going to get.
Got it hours before reset then got it again on myth track in vault, pepega
its funny how theres a str and int branch too
I'd say that's average
Agreed
I find it hard to actually see the orbs in a raid encounter
Feels like I am just "hoping" the orbs are where I think they are
They spawn in fixed spots
guys u go into orb on branch or just wait them come to u?
Yeah its mostly the 3rd one that I just have a hard time to keep track on
You just let that one hit you
Hmm okey, I will try that
I have been reading the guides do we shiv on cd outside of the kingsbane and for pooling do we keep envenom up and slow go up or let it fall off and just keep bleeds up till we hit a certain energy cap
No, Shiv with KB only
!pooling
Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back
- If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
- Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
- Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
- With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use
Nymue is the only fight I have a hard time seeing orbs on, and when I do manage to see them, they always belong to another dps 
Ty ty
⏳
That comes with practice I suppose? I don’t really have the feeling yet to hold envenom
You don't look at ur orbs ever btw
You just know where they are and listen for a sound when u pick em up
its snake trinket good by far?
It’s okay
Sim yourself 
!whispyr
its better than not having a trinket on, I can confirm that much
How high does pips rank for us?
In raid
your stats bro they are bis for sub than sin your secondary stats is haste only 9% and i know haste is like sec stats the lest worse your verst is really high is like the worse stats
yes but thats with recrafting everything to haste mastery or crit mastery
factored in to the sim
I’ve been playing sin for about 3 weeks now. Can anybody tell me what I am doing wrong, my spatter does half the damage as better logs on every boss that has cleave. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/nVMYyPGR19aLzdTA#fight=6&type=damage-done&source=10
i don't recommend recraft old gear set for some reason those balance item not sim really high use drop optimizer and the bis list.
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
i have a stupid idea
make a boss have a chance to drop a token or something which rogues can loot, use to trade for whatever is popular. branches or whatever in a specially created rogue market.
that way you can gear up faster than the other plebs
so essentially a rogue exclusive mechanic
for loot loot lol
no no let us pickpocket gear from other people
how do you guys tricks, do you focus macro? thats how i rocked, but im trying to free up my focus for other things, is there a way to @ Target tank /tricks
I just forget I have it and get my skull rocked by the boss
speciall hidden rogue technique. set the dice, stack the deck. - 1 week cd. effect - you roll 100 on any item dropped
get your item 100% of the time just for 7 days 😄
Is there a certain point where vers becomes less important? I'm crafting engi bracers and simming best stat and right now vers is best secondary, followed by mast. I dont want to make the vers bracers and then vers falls off at a certain %. I just dont want to keep recrafting just for stats. Im probably over thinking, thoughts?
steals mage and demon hunter weapons to sell them
evil laughing
You don't need that you silly Hunter! Get yourselves a good ol' stat-stick like you're meant to.
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why is it with the branch trinket they say to instantly get 2 orbs then kite 3rd, vs getting one orb, kiting a bit then getting the 2nd, kite a bit then get 3rd?
cause the bonus stacks twice
but wouldn't it last longer if you kite starting after the first orb?
presumably having a bigger bonus sooner in kb is worth more than extending it to be in your downtime
Yes but we do negative dmg outside of cds
bigger bonus > longer bonus
Mastery during kingsbane matters
We’d not cover the end of kingsbane
cause it stacks twice, as i just said
If we got all three right away
Macro it with dm, run forward and right / left to the first or - strafe to the second
Then run into the third one at 10s kingsbane
My advice on using branch: Unequip, put in bank, use ashes instead 👌🏻
Do u guys spam fan of knives in aoe to build combo points when there is already caustic on target ?
how do you guys effectively dps council
do you just focus on rupture and garroe uptime?
Pray for a good tank
Its a 2 target cleave fight at best
ST when your tank has no braincells
❤️
get ducked , rip parse
i try carnage on it but still meh
from council today. nerf elemental shaman please
should i swap a champion witherbark branch for a hero level crab because i dont ever play around balls ideally
how do you guys do cd timings on smolderon? or you just dont play sin on smold
seems so scuffed
so just send cd's off cd and DM on pull?
yup
feels like i ahve to dance out of the fire rings during KB and feels scuffed
you are melle, it's not your job to run away with the tornadoes

🙂
is ashes better if you had to use the trinket once?
basically opener vs opener which is better
branch or ashes
ignoring the next minute debuff
Branch
Doubt the debuff from ashes matters that much
has anyone felt like they are hitting like a wet noodle since the nerf?
Yeah like a noodle thats <4% wetter
clever
Lose out to havoc slightly more than before I suppose
same thing that happens a lot- popping off early and getting nerfed all the while other specs scale better into a tier and ride the unnerfed train all the way to victory
not really. Since we got better gear, i mostly improved my parses from last week.
Silly question for the gods in the channel. Is the only “change” in talents for raid is to take splatter over the other one in its bubble?
Oh that’s what we are on tomorrow
carnage for coucil is pretty good
oh for sure, I'd say IC is well worth on council
just dont get ducked
There's 3 raid builds basically. Pure ST with IB instead of spatter, cleave build with spatter instead of IB, and Council build
I think that covers them?
I use several different builds.
For most use, it's ST build with either spatter or Internal bleeding.
But for a lot of fights i take a build with acrobatic strikes.
And for council i take acro + carnage
Indiscriminate Carnage
what is range on caustic spatter?
Ah cool ty
I’d have to agree, I’m feeling about 4% wetter than before
i didnt see it in the talent note
12 yards
ty
(From the target hit, not from you)
what build is everyone playing in keys this week? 20+ that is. just wondering.
Whispyr raiding tonight?
shiv build been okay mmh
aertial shock, i think it is described as
I play arterial with Venom Rush instead of Flying daggers on tyrannical
shock build every key every week
dh's still kill sheet too mast
sounds good all! ty
Work this pal 
Do we use dungeon slice to sim for m+ as sin?

You can.
It’s an arbitrary tool that tells you arbitrary performance. Semi well at that
Isn’t it too soon to be hoeing yourself out like that king?
!fuu
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Would a 483 ashes be better than a 483 Branch? It sims lower, but most people seem to be using ashes isntead of branch in raid.
Amen, we’ll have you gay by end of week

Ashes by definition is worse than branch but it’s easier to use, so that’s the give/take
Thank you, I just feel like I can't get optimal branch usage due to raid leading and stuff.
Does Acro strikes effect spatter?
;c
Did I have a stroke
whats the matter my kitten
i just refunded my 12-month wow sub and now going to refund war within expac after post nut clarity
Real
$169 on wow sub could you believe that ? idk what i was thinking haha

What stats do I put on my crafted wrist with?
Wrong game
But int makes us smarter? No
Ayo get them teeth outta the way god damn
I hate that
So, in raid today the feral Druid rolled need on an int staff
I roll on int daggers cuz they look pretty
Sounds like he needs it pretty bad
Cleave build with Improved Ambush showing up on subcreation this week, Tight Spender seems to be the default reccommended otherwise though, any/much difference?
Me personally? I woke up
What was ur stream title a couple days ago
She smolder-on my ________ until my kingsbane tindrals
She smolderon my fyrakk until my kingsbane tindrals
Not right off the rip no
any bad luck protection on nick of time? i've done like 50
i assume its just for extra value when 2 are stacked
then
@slate crown I was convinced to craft ring as well.

so....
in mythic council
what am i supposed to be doing? lol
do i keep bleeds on all 3?
or is it just fuck it to the straggler and focus on the 2 stacked?
You never chase the third one
If it’s nearby go for it
caustic spatter still worth?
you bleed multiple when possible (with carnage)
rest of the time you attack a single target and cleave on the bear.
or nah
been hearing tight spender is good after blindside nerf
i woupld assume ambush still better on this fight
too much free energy
this fight being council
oh hmmm
Blizz balanced too well 
so we can drop dashing scoundrel for IC?
Checking another variation though
didnt try that

flavor pocky on belt

i placed it on the ring
Pi is been knocked down a bit on Assass right?
got a mythic belt from 1st week vault
you can put a pocket on a ring

wat
my immersion
What do you think alchemical flavor is
mercury
Hi - had a question around any interaction between subterfuge n nightstalker. If i garotte, garotte, rupture, do the two bleeds benefit from the nightstalker amplification
!snapshot
Explanation of snapshotting
Bleeds update their tick rate dynamically, which means that if you get a haste proc (which increases our tick rate) from somewhere during the encounter (ie. Flagellation, Euphoria), the bleeds would automatically tick faster, but the second your haste goes back to normal, the tick rate goes back down as well.
Snapshotting refers to getting that haste proc, reapplying bleeds at the faster tick rate, but instead of the bleeds going back to a slower tick rate when your haste drops, they would continue ticking at a faster rate until they expire or are reapplied.
i thought it would mention NS
but yes
i was rockin that talent point on a n 18 lol
From stealth or SD
!up
!fuu
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wanna know what was my parse last week on council?
I bet mines worse
gray and not really understanding why is feelsbad lol
I improved it today at least hah
76%. not amazing, but like, hard to compete with previous parses after the nerfs and aug fixes.
I got unducked on twice right after I sent KB 
Never been closer to throwing a monitor
yeah same
but i was sucking it up big time before that
so that was just a sign that i could give up

is there a generalized m+ build I could run on sin?
i usually outlaw every m+ but i thought i'd try out sin
im running my friend through low level keys so catering to the dungeon isn't really in my plans for rn
if you are running him through low keys id advise to keep playing outlaw 
sin in low keys is infuriating
:( thing die too quick
the pain of every ramp spec
just play the arterial m+ build if you really want to play sin but like
wouldnt recommend it 
sadge
i just run hybrid in low keys













