our priest doesnt like me :/
#assassination
fathom citrus
waxen oyster
damn branch already
wild marsh
when we pool outsiede of KB you still wanna finish envenom with 4Cp?
spark rain
I feel like im missing something big
mighty nexus
t30 tier is still better than no tier, it's like pretty much free too
balmy condor
I feel like im missing something big
Yeah looks like you’re missing a raid as well
3:57 kill time
Lmao
The fucks going on here
Half the dps under a tank
lucid rain
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YagnwLAC3X4pcb27#fight=9&type=damage-done&s...
you need to stop shivving after kb
do it beforehand
spark rain
wait what?
lucid rain
shiv -> dance/kb
spark rain
did I do that
spark rain
oh fuck
lucid rain
maybe more but I didn't keep counting
waxen oyster
your mainhand isnt enchanted
spark rain
yea forgot too I got it on tuesday
lucid rain
this is not as big of a deal but I noticed at 1:11 you went into your odd-minute kingsbane (that is, the one without deathmark) with 89 energy
you ended up using a tea to help recover at the start of your kb window
which is fine
but if you're gonna x2 tea a kb window, should do it during deathmark to juice the fuck out of it
rather than during an odd-minute
lucid rain
^ he knows more than I do
mighty nexus
he knows more than we all do
waxen oyster
do a 2x tea window if fight is about to end
waxen oyster
balmy condor
Cause like ain’t no way you didn’t have 120ish energy to gain at any point in the first 2 minutes
spark rain
so should I be burning my teas before my seocnd deathmark?
balmy condor
No shot
spark rain
Ive been having a lot of energy problems
balmy condor
You should be burning teas for energy, holding on for the last 6 of kb
trail root
at how many sockets does the Elemental Lariat become better option for second embellished item?
balmy condor
Ive been having a lot of energy problems
having energy problems
holding tea charges for Deathmark, which is doubling your energy regen from bleeds
Just burn the charges
What you holding for
spark rain
uhhh the next boss
balmy condor
at how many sockets does the Elemental Lariat become better option for second em...
Max sockets, only in m+
spark rain
gotta save my teas
balmy condor
uhhh the next boss
Yeh seems that way
mighty nexus
homie saving his teas for prog next week
spark rain
ohhh
prisma monolithBOT
Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back
- If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
- Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
- Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
- With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use
balmy condor
All this shit
spark rain
yea I think i suck at that still
trail root
lol
spark rain
hmmm ok ok I practice
balmy condor
Tier good
spark rain
Thanks
balmy condor
Sanguine succ
spark rain
tier great
spark rain
you did great on the second one
tropic tundra
Great technological advance from this
stable meteor
anybody else having haste sim extremely well for them? it likes having me around the 25% mark
tropic tundra
Pretnet
normal mist
balmy condor
anybody else having haste sim extremely well for them? it likes having me around...
Haste is a good stat, we run double wafting, kinda making sense yeah
vestal wren
#off-topic <- this way
lucid rain
my bad
faint path
%65+ mastery kinda high right?
distant plinth
Haste is a good stat, we run double wafting, kinda making sense yeah
What about vers? My sims want me to run with haste vers rings😂
thorny onyx
are we worse PI targets now than BM hunter in single target / m+? is there any situation where assa should get PI instead of BM after nerfs?
sick garnet
Bm also got nerfs
red mauve
Haste is a good stat, we run double wafting, kinda making sense yeah
It's strange because my sim have been telling me to use 2x sophic devotion. Only after reaching my 470 ilvl it Sims higher with wafting on OH and only on OH
sick garnet
balmy condor
are we worse PI targets now than BM hunter in single target / m+? is there any s...
Pins
balmy condor
What about vers? My sims want me to run with haste vers rings😂
Well if you have a bunch of crit, and a bunch of mastery, and a bunch of haste, vers looks good
balmy condor
It's strange because my sim have been telling me to use 2x sophic devotion. Only...
Yeah, secondaries get better as you get more ilvl
wild marsh
[Read About Pooling](<https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/...
also when we pool outside of KB we still sit on 4cp to finish never try to get 6 i understand that correctly?
balmy condor
Ye
distant plinth
Well if you have a bunch of crit, and a bunch of mastery, and a bunch of haste, ...
Think i got like.. 3k of each ish
balmy condor
Think i got like.. 3k of each ish
Yeah doesn’t really matter
3k or 30k
It’s the ratio that matters here
It’s just stats
As you get more for example crit
The other 3 become better
As you get more of X, X gets worse and the other 3 get better
red mauve
Yeah, secondaries get better as you get more ilvl
Make sens then 😀
slim hamlet
Is imp ambush still worth with blindside nerf btw?
balmy condor
Idk probably
lucid rain
apparently the dh nerf is smaller than 5% if you take a different capstone than fel barrage
slim hamlet
Ye
lucid rain
I tried out havoc tonight in a few 18-19 keys
vestal wren
nice pin 👍
lucid rain
I barely had any idea of what I was doing, I just hit things I thought made sense
and I did stupid amounts of damage
actually dumb
granted I practised on dummies beforehand but sheesh
slim hamlet
nice pin 👍
This is like that American psycho scene where they compared business cards
lucid rain
let's see fuu's pin
random mural
ok am i a super dumb idiot or is the tricks WA on wowhead not working anymore
vestal wren
let's see fuu's pin
i made a pin for the sub changes too
with simualtions and all for whats changed
frigid cedar
what do you think about kingsbane nerf? 😄
vestal wren
didn't you see it?
vagrant tapir
does CT give energy ?
vestal wren
(its a joke, there was no change, so no pin)
obtuse ruin
apparently the dh nerf is smaller than 5% if you take a different capstone than ...
I mean fel barrage did the highest damage all around so switching off of it is already slight dps loss technically?
But Essence break is the go to for all around good damage
balmy condor
does CT give energy ?
No
Venomous wounds says garrote and rupture
And crimson tempest is neither garrote, nor rupture
tropic tundra
Ct is…ct
solemn echo
lucid rain
I mean fel barrage did the highest damage all around so switching off of it is a...
fel barrage in its current form is a crime
tropic tundra
balmy condor
I don’t think people realize how crazy it would be if Ct gave energy
tropic tundra
What can we do with all that energy
acoustic sky
No more pooling 
balmy condor
What can we do with all that energy
Literally nothing
tropic tundra
Fr
balmy condor
Saturation happens at 35 energy regen
So let’s say you have 20% haste
That’s 12 energy base, with vigor that’s 13
Rounding down for fun
obtuse ruin
Think of all the crit and mastery we could gain by dumping haste thoo
balmy condor
So you need 22
Dots tick for 5 (7-2 from sang) every 2 seconds
So 2.5 a second, with the 20% haste
We’re looking at 3
So around 7 bleeds give or take not counting stuff like dashing
That’s 4 target aoe with gar + rup
Or if CT gave energy, you’d almost get there on 2 targets 
meager granite
A well deserved compensation after those unjustified nerfs!
balmy condor
5 target aoe would be 15 bleeds, would be 45 energy a second, with the 13 baseline
You’re looking at 58 energy a second
meager granite
balmy condor
You could spam nothing but mutilate
Your most expensive button
And not be able to lose energy
Very reasonable
meager granite
And not be able to lose energy
That remind me of bfa aoe with echoing where you bleed up aoe spam fok with full energy
balmy condor
That remind me of bfa aoe with echoing where you bleed up aoe spam fok with full...
Yeh except for that you’d need 30 energy a second, which would happen on 2 targets, before you even use fok 
wheat hinge
on that note is it worth to stay at >50% energy in aoe in kb or do i just spam envenom?
balmy condor
Spam
lofty junco
btw do i use the 2nd shiv while in dance, or wait until i done the 3x envenom in dance?
balmy condor
Any cooldown = spam
wheat hinge
outside beter to dot everytthing?
lucid rain
btw do i use the 2nd shiv while in dance, or wait until i done the 3x envenom in...
you shiv to cover the entire kb duration
balmy condor
Dance is 6 seconds. Shiv is 8
limber lion
Chain, no overlap
lofty junco
Dance is 6 seconds. Shiv is 8
i sometimes have the problem with deathmark that shiv ends like at 1s dance left
balmy condor
outside beter to dot everytthing?
Not really, your priority should be have enough energy > cooldowns >= scent stacks > ct uptime > envenom generally
lofty junco
since its shiv->DM->dance+kb
balmy condor
i sometimes have the problem with deathmark that shiv ends like at 1s dance left
That makes no sense
lofty junco
ah fuck
wild marsh
we use Crimson Tempest in KB or only after ´?
wheat hinge
Not really, your priority should be have enough energy > cooldowns >= scent stac...
what would be seen as enough energy in aoe? pooling for cooldowns or staying above 50?
balmy condor
we use Crimson Tempest in KB or only after ´?
If you can maintain envenom uptime yeah send it
spark rain
!wa
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
balmy condor
what would be seen as enough energy in aoe? pooling for cooldowns or staying abo...
Saturation is enough, so making sure you can cast every gcd
balmy condor
btw why do we not use 6cp rupture in aoe situation, but 4cp?
4+, so 6cp is fine, 5cp is fine too
But you wouldn’t force 6 because that’s a waste of time
lofty junco
balmy condor
If you get to 4 you’d just finish
Otherwise you’re sitting there like a bozo
Casting another fok
real stirrup
!dagger
prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
And let’s get real the mobs gonna die in 20 seconds anyway does it matter if your rupture is 26 seconds or 32?
balmy condor
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1180129404031082546/...
The image on this shit changes like every other day wtf
lofty junco
well not in my groups^^
would i with like 7+ mobs actualy refresh the ruptures or just chaining envenoms with keeping CT up?
after garrote and rupture did run out
balmy condor
If the mobs live more than 15ish seconds you’d rupture yeah
Garrote as well I guess
But that’s a long pack tbh
lofty junco
ah no. i mean after the first garrote and rupture did run out
weak vessel
Guys any opinions on Kingsbane nerf damage by 15%?
balmy condor
Your mobs are living past the first rupture in a 16?
lofty junco
aye
balmy condor
Guys any opinions on Kingsbane nerf damage by 15%?
Guys any pins?
indigo mulch
How is possible
indigo mulch
That's what I do
balmy condor
Don’t actually
indigo mulch
balmy condor
But holy fuck what a load of shitters
lofty junco
in that case would i just upkeep the CT and don't bother with rupture all targets again?
balmy condor
I’d dream for a pack of mobs to live more than 15 seconds in my 20’s
balmy condor
in that case would i just upkeep the CT and don't bother with rupture all target...
You can rupture snipe mobs for the energy I guess
I’d try to CT and envenom and just finish the pack idk
You live in a world foreign to me
wild marsh
is double on use a thing for m+? one for every KB or not wort
balmy condor
is double on use a thing for m+? one for every KB or not wort
No
balmy condor
Double on use is always garbo
lime crypt
i run with a lot of FOTM dh's that are weird
It's okay, wait for next week
balmy condor
i run with a lot of FOTM dh's that are weird
YOURE RUNNING WITH DEMON HUNTERS?
lime crypt
Theyll be gone by snap of the finger
balmy condor
How tf is the pack alive for more than 30 seconds hello
What
Are they afk?
It’s a 16
Those mobs die when hit by a stiff breeze
What are they doing
lofty junco
thats why i said FOTM dh'S^^
ppl that only go to the favor of the month class, but can't do shit
rustic violet
What’s best trink combo for raid atm? Branch and signet brand?
And what about m+? Branch and pips/sandglass?
lofty junco
YOURE RUNNING WITH DEMON HUNTERS?
I'm at 1.2k rio. i can't rly chose. I'm already glad when i got invited to a +15 or 16
midnight atlas
Does kingsbane get spread with splatter ? 
balmy condor
What’s best trink combo for raid atm? Branch and signet brand?
And what about m+...
Branch + signet/glass
Branch + pip/anything other than signet
lofty junco
wait it does?
midnight atlas
Pog
midnight atlas
So thats why my splatter was so big during council
balmy condor
Poisons do like 7% of your damage in single target could you imagine
burnt meadow
splatter the nature damage blade flurry
balmy condor
45% of that 
lofty junco
so u first pop kingbane and then buff yourself with splatter?
lofty junco
whispyr should be rogue dev at blizzard 
cerulean walrus
I’ve heard it even cleaves your mom
balmy condor
I’m missing something surely
slim hamlet
Sepsis 
cerulean walrus
midnight atlas
whispyr should be rogue dev at blizzard <a:KEKLAUGHW:961151345207939112>
Im afraid the corporate ambience will kill his spirit. Let him be free
burnt meadow
talent has a terrible tooltip wtf blizz
cerulean walrus
Bro it literally says poison damage
balmy condor
It’s consistent with zoldyck
slim hamlet
talent has a terrible tooltip wtf blizz
Welcome to rogue
balmy condor
Which says poison damage
And also buffs all those things
And mastery
Which says poison damage
And also buffs all those things
cerulean walrus
midnight atlas
Yeah but does it spread itself?
vagrant wagon
are we "happy" with only 15% kingsbane damage reduce 😄 ?
slim hamlet
Yea but deathmark says doubled lethal poisons and kb says lethal poison
balmy condor
Yeah but does it spread itself?
That doesn’t even make sense
balmy condor
are we "happy" with only 15% kingsbane damage reduce 😄 ?
Idk are you happy
Is happiness obtainable through numbers
crisp pine
I’m missing something surely
You're missing Vulperas bag of tricks if you use the one that deals nature damage
Arguably the most important ability
balmy condor
DH and BM hunter got fucked harder 😄
They didn’t
vagrant wagon
no? the numbers look huge 😮
balmy condor
whats with utilitarian?
I ran out of characters, it’s just hybrid
lofty junco
ty
balmy condor
no? the numbers look huge 😮
It’s like 3-4%
balmy condor
You're missing Vulperas bag of tricks if you use the one that deals nature damag...
That doesn’t cleave
It’s not a rogue ability
crisp pine
Wait why
balmy condor
So it’s not affected by any rogue stuff
balmy condor
Like mastery and stuff
cerulean walrus
There it is
crisp pine
Why does blizzard hate vulperas smh
balmy condor
They’re external to “rogue”
Same way that racials are external
Neither gets buffed
cerulean walrus
Lightning rogue when?
midnight atlas
Almost everybody hates vulpera, not just blizzard. There are like 5 ppl who like them
cerulean walrus
And all 5 of them are in this discord
crisp pine
I member the stupid fire ring from vault worked with the vulpera racial
Last good patch smh
slim hamlet
Lightning rogue when?
It's the new fadesomething in 11.0
cerulean walrus
Ah
balmy condor
Vulpera gets a second hearth and front flips
cerulean walrus
Perfect
balmy condor
It’s goated
crisp pine
Vulpera also has really nice animations tbh
slim hamlet
No
lofty junco
Why does blizzard hate vulperas smh
midnight atlas
It’s goated
You and 4 more ppl like that
glossy imp
Everyone knows front flips increase dps
subtle kiln
no? the numbers look huge 😮
they didn’t and they’re further ahead of assa
balmy condor
Yeah they share a skeleton with goblins
Wish we shared a skeleton
subtle kiln
have a bone 🦴
balmy condor
cerulean walrus
balmy condor
Okay
I hate mobile discord
My autocorrect takes prio over the discord emote auto-complete
And I fucking hate it
Who designed this piece of shit app
cerulean walrus
Checks out
balmy condor
Step on a nail
cerulean walrus
Vulpera player
crisp pine
Dont pretend like half of you aren't tauren
crisp pine
sick freaks
balmy condor
autocorrect not working that time lmao
Game sucks
cerulean walrus
I play Undead
subtle kiln
Step on a nail
step on a lego
balmy condor
step on a lego
Tep on a snail
lime crypt
Stealth animation is just top notch
cerulean walrus
Goated Rezan tech in AD with WotF
near valley
cerulean walrus
crisp pine
Stealth animation is just top notch
Yea but void elves have them too and don't look as stupid as blood elves
balmy condor
Yea but void elves have them too and don't look as stupid as blood elves
My void elf looks pretty stupid tbh
crisp pine
That's fair actually
rocky ruin
The hentai tentacle hair
Its the best on them
crisp pine
Oh yea
I also kinda hate the heritage armor
Like why tf is the glowing shoulder thing a chest effect
lucid rain
void elves have the best voice acting
royal lantern
void elves have the best voice acting
kultiran
subtle kiln
The hentai tentacle hair
cut it off and rp high elf
calm ivy
i fucking hate blizzard for allready nerfing assa, since legion not really playable and now where we have a good spot we getting fucked
calm ivy
you did everything right
subtle kiln
i fucking hate blizzard for allready nerfing assa, since legion not really playa...
accurate
sub vulpera back on the menu
royal lantern
i fucking hate blizzard for allready nerfing assa, since legion not really playa...
trolling or serious
earnest remnant
calm ivy
trolling or serious
both
subtle kiln
very serious troll?
calm ivy
exactly xD
fervent relic
I guess it's time to swap to ol or sub for raiding?
lucid rain
if you were doing 175k earlier
you're doing 167k after the nerf
it's not a big deal
subtle kiln
that’s bench right there
crisp pine
While that might be true, have you considered that number smaller now?
earnest remnant
yep time to hang up my rogue gloves
subtle kiln
nah just go back to purple ninja
fast mural
How is this possible the nerf is on 15%
earnest remnant
never left buddy
royal lantern
yep time to hang up my rogue gloves
weak vessel
Does the nerf on kingsbane affects us on M+?
fast mural
ofc
earnest remnant
check the pins
subtle kiln
yes
fast mural
they affect splatter
manic quartz
i left last night, people were dooming, they still dooming?
subtle kiln
but you’re still just a boss bitch when havoc and bm are in the group
weak vessel
how do i check pins?
fallen knoll
you click
subtle kiln
find a pin. make sure it’s ok
plain onyx
how do i check pins?
bleak ivy
Next class tweak leaks show envenom 20% damage reduction truly sad
lucid rain
maybe you should tweak yourself into a shower
earnest remnant
what wa's are this?
Custom version of Atrocity ui
grim jay
Custom version of Atrocity ui
oh its atro
looks better than the normal atro ngl
didnt like that one when I tried it way back
maybe he changed it himself tho
bleak ivy
maybe you should tweak yourself into a shower
You lack the human impulse to know when you need to shower.probably stinky rn
lucid rain
lofty junco
Custom version of Atrocity ui
the WA's are from atro ui as well?
bleak ivy
https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-...
Reducing competition
limber lion
Custom version of Atrocity ui
Does Atrocity* do the Afenar-kind of layering of cooldowns as well now? Back in Shadowlands I remember all the wa's just being in one big line and I didn't like that.
Or is that the custom portion that you've done
royal lantern
maybe you should tweak yourself into a shower
played too many souls games, im dodge rolling the shower droplets
bleak ivy
In how many tries did you get the pattern down?
lucid rain
reminds me of that asshole hydra from dark souls 1
gilded crest
Next class tweak leaks show envenom 20% damage reduction truly sad
I expected 30% on Kingsbane and something on Garrote
strange python
Hey Whispyr, can you give link on sim? Or custom apl if possible, thanks
earnest remnant
the WA's are from atro ui as well?
yea they are
grim jay
I expected 30% on Kingsbane and something on Garrote
sounds like you wanted sin to die for real
lucid rain
no touchy garrote
bleak ivy
I expected 30% on Kingsbane and something on Garrote
Theyre removing garrrote
lucid rain
earnest remnant
Does Atrocity* do the Afenar-kind of layering of cooldowns as well now? Back in ...
ehh, its still Top bar is for cooldown for gameplay and the bottom one is utility mostly (we are trying to get him to change that since some classes have like 14 icons there)
limber lion
ehh, its still Top bar is for cooldown for gameplay and the bottom one is utilit...
Yeh, cause I remember having like 10 different icons next to each other and it wasn't a vibe
But nice nice
gilded crest
sounds like you wanted sin to die for real
Not want but Blizzard's last nerfing spree was certainly more aggressive
earnest remnant
Yeh, cause I remember having like 10 different icons next to each other and it w...
basically this time around the Assa/sub pack is alot of my work, to have it up to date with this patch
bleak ivy
Not want but Blizzard's last nerfing spree was certainly more aggressive
Sin is done bro go play mage stay in the light
earnest remnant
just that it doesent really look the same
since i add extra stuff, move stuff around
shy axle
bm and assa both dooming to the max
limber lion
Yeah good stuff
earnest remnant
and i change colours
fallen knoll
dh/bm nerfs absolutely beautiful
lucid rain
I don't think anyone is dooming
naive crane
assa nerfs are not that bad tbh
bleak ivy
bm and assa both dooming to the max
I'm adding to the fire so they quit the class
limber lion
as long as we get a new partition for wcl 
tulip wind
How many loss is it in term of dps ?
fallen knoll
check pins
bleak ivy
DH got nerf?
grim jay
assa nerfs are not that bad tbh
imo they are a tad bit too much but its still plenty fine. numerically only the kb nerf wouldve been fine enough
earnest remnant
bleak ivy
Istg if Havoc is untouched
limber lion
hey it's big number
naive crane
much needed, bm aswell
earnest remnant
2% st
earnest remnant
and like 5% m+
near valley
DH nerfs were a slap on the wrist
fallen knoll
what amazes me tho no spriest buffs
limber lion
hey I'm just saying what the others are saying
naive crane
dh will still be the top dps in m+ for sure
near valley
fair
urban iron
in pins it says 1.7% but no way its true. if i peak 2mil on aoe pack with the hybrid build, the 15% less impacts the entire ooe dmg. its wayyyy more
grim jay
yeah I expected a direct nerf to it tho
frank roost
Btw Bm was deserved they were to OP in raid
shy axle
i expected an 5/7 auranerf tbh
bleak ivy
I'm convinced blizzard employes just maining DH cause they got no hands
And overbuff it
limber lion
in pins it says 1.7% but no way its true. if i peak 2mil on aoe pack with the hy...
Wow you peak 2mil on one singular pack in the dungeon that lasts for 40 minutes
damn yeah can't be 1.7%
all those bosses that you do 2m on
can't be
earnest remnant
the math be mathin dude
fallen knoll
the numbers
bleak ivy
Your dungeon lasts 40minutes?
earnest remnant
you guys do dungeons?
grim jay
you guys do dungeons?
gotta crank out sub
fallen knoll
m+ with sin big fun
limber lion
Your dungeon lasts 40minutes?
hey he exaggerates with the 2mil dps, so we exaggerate with the length
gotta compensate
royal lantern
you guys do dungeons?
still need some crests this week, so i have too play shit+ 
lucid rain
still need some crests this week, so i have too play shit+ <:pepehands:757566347...
have fun with sudden demise
urban iron
why? we do big packs, its ez in most dung with bl to reach 2mil
and without its always 1.2mil
fallen knoll
always
bleak ivy
2mil on forti with 6+ mobs is very plausible
limber lion
with bl and all cds and pi and augmentation and potion
right
you do that once every dungeon
Still got like 30 minutes to go
how are you gonna maintain that
what happens after that pack
crisp pine
I only join for the first pull
I leave the group after
shy axle
fort 22 dht with havoc and ret and my kingsbane doesnt even tick its full duration on a big bear
limber lion
I only join for the first pull
I leave the group after
based
bleak ivy
He said damage not dps
bleak ivy
Fortified 22+ with no havoc Dh in your group
fallen knoll
fort 22 dht with havoc and ret and my kingsbane doesnt even tick its full durati...
they zoomed a 15mil bear within 14s?
royal lantern
I only join for the first pull
I leave the group after
subtle kiln
i wonder when trash really lives long
when you don’t run with havoc or bm
bleak ivy
I only join for the first pull
I leave the group after
Fuck dummies gotta get the real practice in
lime crypt
Yea but void elves have them too and don't look as stupid as blood elves
Uhhhhh
Yeah but can you have undead void elf? Checkmate
bleak ivy
All Elves look stupid
lime crypt
What race do u play
crisp pine
Uhhhhh
Yeah but can you have undead void elf? Checkmate
I'm already dead inside, just gotta reroll void elf then
bleak ivy
Blood elf
lime crypt
I'm already dead inside, just gotta reroll void elf then
Based
Then again, it's alliance tho
bleak ivy
Id play orc rogue if Į had race change xd
crisp pine
That's disgusting
bleak ivy
That's disgusting
Its peak performance race
lime crypt
You never wanna run with bm
bleak ivy
Peak gamer
fallen knoll
running with bm next week is fine
next week they'll be survivals
bleak ivy
Survival is turbo fun tho
lime crypt
Idk why but I always tend to invite the BM that barely knows how to breathe
grim jay
Survival is turbo fun tho
but its melee
worn fossil
bleak ivy
I thought it was always ahead on thoose
fallen knoll
it was better even before
velvet ridge
how big are the DH BM nerfs
does it offset our M+ nerfs
like are we stronger in relation to them based on their nerfs
lofty junco
Survival is turbo fun tho
survival is ass ever since they made it into a melee
lucid rain
it's all within 4-6%
subtle kiln
how big are the DH BM nerfs
smaller than assa nerfs
lucid rain
still strong, just not absurd
velvet ridge
Their nerfs were smaller then ours? So the gap between us in M+ INCREASED? unlucky
lucid rain
read the pin
velvet ridge
its not my point impulse
vale lantern
the dh discord said they took about a 5% hit in m+
grim jay
Their nerfs were smaller then ours? So the gap between us in M+ INCREASED? unluc...
bm nerfs werent smaller brother
velvet ridge
i read the pin
vale lantern
we got like a 2% nerf in aoe
velvet ridge
okok, so the gap is closing
vale lantern
as for bm idk i dont look at that class ever
slow needle
Just go ask in Fel Hammer/Trueshot if you want proper info on DH/BM xD
grim jay
we got like a 2% nerf in aoe
maybe even less if you didnt optimally play kb windows which many didnt
vale lantern
maybe even less if you didnt optimally play kb windows which many didnt
i can assure you i wasted so many kingsbanes on a mob that died in 2 seconds instead of the mob with 3x the health XD
marsh sundial
guys i have a dum dum quesiton. with the crimson tempest build should i use it on bosses too?
fallen knoll
no
marsh sundial
oke
subtle kiln
when you’re already bursting so much higher as bm the 5% nerf is nothing that will change anything. the single target nerf was maybe 4%
grim jay
when you’re already bursting so much higher as bm the 5% nerf is nothing that wi...
my math says that the 5% nerf will make them deal 5% less damage
indigo mulch
subtle kiln
havoc & bm still going to be crushing everything before your kb fully ticks
calm ivy
my math says that the 5% nerf will make them deal 5% less damage
jesus you are the mathman
grim jay
jesus you are the mathman
ty ty you are far too kind
velvet ridge
if they are doing 95% dmg, and we are doing 98% dmg, then we gained a whole 1% of dmg on them this coming patch
indigo mulch
The hunter nerf was like 3.5%
subtle kiln
the aoe is a little higher
grim jay
if they are doing 95% dmg, and we are doing 98% dmg, then we gained a whole 1% o...
legends say if you listen to hardbass while playing you gain 3.5% dps
velvet ridge
havoc & bm still going to be crushing everything before your kb fully ticks
idk in 22s+ usually things live long enough this week, next week dif story
velvet ridge
i really think sin shines so much more in higher keys
i dont bother doing things under 22
too much hassle
indigo mulch
subtle kiln
idgaf about m+, weekly crap and get out. 
lapis lantern
How much does the havoc nerf hurt? In numbers for dungeon slice
fervent marsh
lapis lantern
Ty
pseudo hamlet
How much does the havoc nerf hurt? In numbers for dungeon slice
<2% for dungeon slice I guess
fallen knoll
the numbers mason
grim jay
<2% for dungeon slice I guess
he said havoc btw
pseudo hamlet
he said havoc btw
uh oh, sorry just noticed lol
forest notch
Is there a way to see what my parse is against people who arent PId
limber lion
Is there a way to see what my parse is against people who arent PId
I mean you can see the rankings without externals, but you are not given a parse number
forest notch
!wa
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winter gale
Whats best raiding trinket combo excluding branch?
Hourglass + Ash?
I just got branch last night but I want to have a backup sorted in case I am not good at playing around it
oak leaf
how worried arer we about the upcoming nerfs?
snow skiff
!whispyr
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royal lantern
how worried arer we about the upcoming nerfs?
midnight atlas
how worried arer we about the upcoming nerfs?
very, you should reroll to next op class. /s
snow skiff
!fuu
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midnight atlas
Whats best raiding trinket combo excluding branch?
whatever sims the highest from what you have
oak leaf
very, you should reroll to next op class. /s
not the point i was asking lol, been playing rogue for a while, and not because it's fotm, but thanks
midnight atlas
not the point i was asking lol, been playing rogue for a while, and not because ...
its pinned to the channel. 2% aoe nerf, 4% st. not an issue at all
winter gale
whatever sims the highest from what you have
What should I search/go for was the point of my question.
But I will go for em all 😂
oak leaf
its pinned to the channel. 2% aoe nerf, 4% st. not an issue at all
thanks found it
midnight atlas
But I will go for em all 😂
go for branch + sandglass, easy to farm (in theory). chance to loot one every key
pips and signet are good also if you get them
forest notch
Justttt got my branch, have midas/sand/branch now. I need to sim so see which combo is best
lofty junco
very, you should reroll to next op class. /s
i love some of my guildmates "assa is death"
cause i laughed when they took a frostmage instead of rogue in their m+ group
their comment "15% kingsbane"
final star
!pooling
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TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back
- If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
- Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
- Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
- With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use
forest notch
i love some of my guildmates "assa is death"
cause i laughed when they took a f...
Do they know how math works?
midnight atlas
i love some of my guildmates "assa is death"
cause i laughed when they took a f...
welcome to the ignorant community of gaming, where class you play = good, class others play = op or dead. nothing in between
lofty junco
welcome to the ignorant community of gaming, where class you play = good, class ...
the poor guildmate plays boomkin. we should have mercy with him
forest notch
why is branch sooooo crazy
forest notch
13k DPS increase
midnight atlas
midas is pretty crazy too
because mastery = good.
wrong reply, wanted to reply to branch one
midnight atlas
the poor guildmate plays boomkin. we should have mercy with him
everyone playing that spec seriously was the class clown back in school
midnight atlas
So with branch now, do I pop it with DM?
you pop it with dm, and you delay picking the 3rd orb
lofty junco
everyone playing that spec seriously was the class clown back in school
tbh i liked it in legion. but only there
midnight atlas
maybe its good idk. i dont like the big chicken thing. and i dont play any caster in wow. cba paying subscription to watch a cast bar
forest notch
you pop it with dm, and you delay picking the 3rd orb
damm thats hard they spawn so close
lofty junco
i mainly play guardian if i do druid
lofty junco
maybe its good idk. i dont like the big chicken thing. and i dont play any caste...
i mained my shadow from legion until end of 10.0
glad I'm back on rogue^^
tardy nacelle
Hi, how do you "like" sin rogue nerfs? is it going to hurt them a lot?
tardy nacelle
Aren't they overbuffing unholy tho XD?
midnight atlas
i mained my shadow from legion until end of 10.0
glad I'm back on rogue^^
melee its where the game's at. i dont understand ppl saying "such a hard fight, i cant cast anything"
fallen knoll
unholy lookin pretty good yeah
late gulch
is assasin the more easy spec when getting into playing rogue =)?
royal lantern
all 3 are somewhat intuitive too get into tbh
minmaxing is another beast
but understanding the basics? yeha, its wow, no spec is hard there
fallen knoll
if we talking learning rogue basics I think outlaw easier
late gulch
i see thanks. wanna get into keys as rogue and just used my boost on a rogue. what would be a good spec to start with?
ah nvm just read post before me xD
lofty junco
melee its where the game's at. i dont understand ppl saying "such a hard fight, ...
what cast?^^
royal lantern
i would personaly say outlaw, cus its simmelar too some other popular melee dps specs, and you can do fine by just going "press glowy buttons"
again
minmaxing is a different beast
minmaxing outlaw is really fucking stupid at points sometimes
but playing 70% correctly which is enough for 95% of content? yeha you do fine with no bigger problems
fallen knoll
he just boosted his rogue he ain't gonna be minmaxing for a while
royal lantern
he just boosted his rogue he ain't gonna be minmaxing for a while
jokes on you, im minmaxing toilet breaks
fallen knoll
same tbh
potent forge
Is the discord finally done with randos coming in dooming? good lord last night was entertaining
royal lantern
toilet break while pooling
are you insane???
pooping at work is the meta, getting paid for pressing one out
royal lantern
Is the discord finally done with randos coming in dooming? good lord last night ...
welcome too FotM andys
lofty junco
Is the discord finally done with randos coming in dooming? good lord last night ...
send link^^
i wana read too
potent forge
Even my bm hunters arent freaking out about their nerfs either...
royal lantern
no clue about the game, but always going for highesr bar on weekly dmg overall wowhead posts with 0contenxt and doom the second they read nerfs
potent forge
It was just chat from last night about 12 hours ago, good luck finding it
royal lantern
Even my bm hunters arent freaking out about their nerfs either...
cus they know it doesnt matter lmao
potent forge
Its even smaller in ST than ours is 
royal lantern
they nerfed the 4ser
bm is cracked without 4set aswell
potent forge
^^ buddy said 3% st /4-6% m+
which is also like nothing
we came of this relatively unscathed 
royal lantern
like, yeha
fotm andys where dooming
and now ran away too their next fotm horse
potent forge
WW 
royal lantern
suprises absolutely nobody
fallen knoll
they're in the unholy discord now cuz it got buffed
potent forge
Do we have an updated sim on PI targets? Are we losing to UH
I havent checked if those are out yet
royal lantern
pi value didnt change
potent forge
We still on top 
restive falcon
We still on top easy game
devout ingot
fallen knoll
in general very solid class tuning
hushed urchin
if we talking learning rogue basics I think outlaw easier
Isnt Sub easier?
blazing jewel
pi value didnt change
Spec dead smh inhale 3 doses of copium every hour frfr bussin on god
devout ingot
is that english
royal lantern
Spec dead smh inhale 3 doses of copium every hour frfr bussin on god <:prayge:80...
i did a m+ and did 20k less overall then a havoc
just delete assa allready, dead spec, blizz hates us, smh my head
blazing jewel
ROGUE DEAD DELETE SMH
potent forge
i did a m+ and did 20k less overall then a havoc
just delete assa allready, dea...
CAN CONFIRM, I did 20k less overall than my bm hunters
guess we are dead
jade carbon
How much we lose dps after kingsbane nerf?
potent forge
agile osprey
Did I miss the dooming session already?
blazing jewel
Believe it or not it is still enough dps 
potent forge
Did I miss the dooming session already?
oh it was so fucking funny
grand trail
how much bms were nerfed overall?
jade carbon
Oh thanks i didnt see
royal lantern
Did I miss the dooming session already?
most of it, fotm andys are mostly gone now
grand trail
i feel like they are the ones overperforming with dhs not us
blazing jewel
most of it, fotm andys are mostly gone now <:dracthyr_kek:1002454136706580620>
define fotm
royal lantern
Poor Whispyr must have had a long night
he made slowmode, a pin, and yeha
potent forge
he had to change the timer on slowmode 2-3x last night
whole mantle
guys, for one who play assassn in raid and outlaw for m+, recomend create the bracer with crit/versa?
grand trail
thats kinda toxic leaving sub behind
fallen knoll
sub for pvp
grand trail
nice
sick edge
is it though? the shear amount of people playing makes it kind of unplayable
nova flax
Im havin a blast
sick edge
good for you
nova flax
Thrashed deadmines yesterday with 2 arcane mage healers 
blazing jewel
Rogue season of discovery is a lil sussy 
winged basin
so ive been scouring wago for a good kingsbane tracker so I can get the tea and vanish timings down, but I am failing to find a good one, anyone got a good one?
I'd make my own, but I am no good with WAs
spice surge
If you just want to simply track the duration of it you can do that with the premade aura options
Premade aura > debuff > kingsbane
winged basin
I didn't realize it was that easy.
can I make bleed trackers the same way? this opens doors lmfao now I feel silly
timber meadow
thats crazy.. on st pips 483 is a downgrade vs. 483 hourglass for me ig
winged basin
I thought it was wayyyyyyy more complicated then it actually is.
spice surge
Ye you can make very complicated things but the premade aura options are incredibly solid and unfortunately underutilized
winged basin
I appreciate the help, had no clue about this :))
topaz horizon
thats crazy.. on st pips 483 is a downgrade vs. 483 hourglass for me ig
Same, pips overrated
woeful wigeon
what the grual eye trinket that is on the sims of bloodmallet ?
winged basin
Sudden Demise has to be one of the most satisfying passives to ever grace sin.
plain onyx
every bit of sin is actually satisfying
envenom / blindside proc / rapture / mutilate that give direct 5cp
all feels better than orgasm meh
winged basin
I havent played since end of SL swapped to ele sham, so Ive been out the game, but hopping on the BM hunter train has gotten old, specially when ur group has 3 others. so time for change.
pliant remnant
so ive been scouring wago for a good kingsbane tracker so I can get the tea and ...
This is good if you just want something to tell you what to press
plain onyx
does looting chests in the dragon isles stopped giving you Artisan Mettles ? how the hell do i get those..
fallen knoll
does looting chests in the dragon isles stopped giving you Artisan Mettles ? how...
more like what do I do with them
plain onyx
Guide me through my misery my friend 😔
winged basin
https://wago.io/8TVRJuKZ0
ahh this is even better, thank you vm :))))
onyx coyote
does looting chests in the dragon isles stopped giving you Artisan Mettles ? how...
Everyweek that one dude will give you some thats near the professions
robust axle
Has the math been done on how Big the overall nerf is on wednesday?
royal lantern
~ 4%
plain onyx
all i need is 5 mettles like right now to recraft something, do i really need to wait for the reset ?
royal lantern
all i need is 5 mettles like right now to recraft something, do i really need to...
no
do some prof stuff you didnt do yet
do crafting weeklys
open treasures
all gives mettle
kind hare
Do i send KB directly after mark? Or do i wait for branch stacks
plain onyx
just opened like 15 treasures around valdrakken and azure and none gave mettles
slate crown
so ive been scouring wago for a good kingsbane tracker so I can get the tea and ...
!wa my (LE) profile below has a pretty popular kingsbane timeline tracker if you want indication ticks for when key abilities need to be used with it/sounds etc
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Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
slate crown
Do i send KB directly after mark? Or do i wait for branch stacks
!guide has the opener sequencing. You cast branch with deathmark, but kingsbane happens regardless of branch stacks. You DM+ cast branch, shiv, kingsbane, continue with the sequence
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kind hare
!guide has the opener sequencing. You cast branch with deathmark, but kingsbane ...
Ok ty
I heard there is some hidden tech for branch nvm
lost dawn
in aoe on how many target are we trying to maintain rupture? im trying to learn rotation at training dummies and maintaining 5 ruptures already gives me no time to use envenom cuz dots are running out
quasi sand
How much dps loss Will it be with the new nerfs?
slate crown
I thought it was wayyyyyyy more complicated then it actually is.
Yeah there’s a lot you can do. We have a lot of really complex auras that do a ton of extra work but really you can get quite far with just a few clicks
fallen knoll
How much dps loss Will it be with the new nerfs?
lost dawn
or do we only maintain 1 target outside of IC
slate crown
in aoe on how many target are we trying to maintain rupture? im trying to learn ...
If you are playing a scent of blood build, you will want to get at least 5 out so you get stacks out of that. With IC that is only 2 rupture casts in your opener.
mint kindle
Where can I find a list of good assassination M+ streamers please?
subtle kiln
there is a #rogue-streamers channel or just search twitch.
lost dawn
If you are playing a scent of blood build, you will want to get at least 5 out s...
so you just wanna maintain 5 ruptures and CT outside of IC, and how do you use Envenom in between when dots are running off ?
slate crown
You maintain 5 ruptures and some garrotes too and CT outside of IC. Keep in mind you aren’t doing this for long
Your Dance will be up soon
hushed fable
Vanish to get another IC and apply dots in few globals and have more time to funnel envenoms.
slate crown
And with FoK you should be able to get to envenom again shortly, depending on pull size
slate crown
Vanish to get another IC and apply dots in few globals and have more time to fun...
And yes this, vanish is not always needed for the final 3 of KB because the target very often dies before that anyways. Can be used for a spare IC window if your tank is chain pulling or it’s spiteful week
keen flume
Where can I find a list of good assassination M+ streamers please?
Idk if this is allowed but zerocool on twitch is cracked. Not me or promo just answering a question. He deff improved my gameplay just from me watching.
mint kindle
Idk if this is allowed but zerocool on twitch is cracked. Not me or promo just a...
Thanks appreciate it!
keen flume
Np🙂
soft zephyr
Hey I'm just switching into Sin to try and learn, but I'm having a really hard time figuring out the AoE. I've gone through multiple guides, but all of the info doesn't seem consistent between one another whether that be information missing or completely different rotations altogether. I know it's a lot, but is there any way someone could possibly help me out via DMs?
keen flume
@gusty mirage hey if I send link to a mythic gnarlroot kill mind looking and telling me where I could improve?
lyric cipher
You should check out whispyr’s YT channel if you are more of a visual learner
Pretty much anything u need to know is there
soft zephyr
You should check out whispyr’s YT channel if you are more of a visual learner
I saw that the videos were about 2 months old and I figured they were kinda outdated bc it was before 10.2 and the rework so I haven't bothered to check them. Unless I'm wrong and they're still valid, then I'll def check it out. Thank you ❤️
bleak charm
any suggestion on restealth with spiteful ? Kinda confused how to play it
royal lantern
Please don’t use crimson tempest in 2T like he does
stop me
keen flume
any suggestion on restealth with spiteful ? Kinda confused how to play it
Ngl I stay back and kill the spitefuls or use my vanish
bleak charm
if its on me evasion and kill ? 😄
lyric cipher
I saw that the videos were about 2 months old and I figured they were kinda outd...
They still apply since those were from the reworked spec that we currently have, just watch the “Everything u need to know AoE edition”
sweet dawn
I saw that the videos were about 2 months old and I figured they were kinda outd...
The videos were on 10.2 PTR and afaik the general priority hasn't really changesd
soft zephyr
Okay cool thank you
keen flume
If anyone has any tips or what I should improve on. Keep in mind I had big aoe twice in this fight
hushed fable
any suggestion on restealth with spiteful ? Kinda confused how to play it
Ignore and go next pack. You don't miss much with starting pack /wo stealth. You should have SD available for almost every pull and if not - vanish. I was tilted y-day cuz ez 2 chested 22 was sooo slow cuz tank decided to kill each and every spiteful instead of sprinting to next pack. Like jeeeez.
plain onyx
go with sims that say sophic on main and wafting on off-hand, or go with wowhead that recommends wafting on both ?
vapid skiff
more gear will be wafting
if you want best for your character right now follow sims
but with more gear double waft will surpass
junior yoke
⏳
lost dawn
pins
strange trail
How Hard is the 15% Kb nerf hitting? Ist that much or ?
pins
gray lynx
I see ty
digital coral
It’s joever
vapid skiff
dusk palm
any suggestion on restealth with spiteful ? Kinda confused how to play it
Spam the stealth key
It works
sick eagle
can I make a macro that uses Deathmark, Trinket and Potion at the same time?
tired swallow
ofc u can
quasi ledge
You can, but not worth putting pot in there
sick eagle
You can, but not worth putting pot in there
why not?
quasi ledge
You don't always want to pot when you Deathmark
sick eagle
ofc u can
I was dumb, I made it but I was pressing the normal deathmark and not the macro one and wondering why it wasn't working
sick eagle
You don't always want to pot when you Deathmark
for m+ I mean not raid
quasi ledge
Still same reasoning
dusk palm
In m+ it’s worse imo
Although this season shroud works everywhere invis does (I think)
faint path
Sim was showing 2x sophic 2 hours ago. Now it shows 1x wafting 1x sophic I didnt even change item literally I dont believe fucking sim
plain onyx
do you believe in jesus?
fringe bridge
what about sim jesus?
plain onyx
same here
fallen forge
and whoever made mayo
plain onyx
btw is haste good for us ?
fallen forge
faint path
btw is haste good for us ?
no
faint path
btw is haste good for us ?
versa > agi > crit > mastery
lofty nymph
versa > agi > crit > mastery
This is cap
lofty nymph
versa > agi > crit > mastery
This feels like outlaw
fallen forge
aint no way vers is higher than main stat
plain onyx
mastery/crit
lofty nymph
Agi > Mastery > crit > haste = vers
faint path
aint no way vers is higher than main stat
Trust
plain onyx
although sim is telling me to go with haste/mastery for my gems but naaah
lofty nymph
How you guys feel for the coming Assa nerfs
faint path
although sim is telling me to go with haste/mastery for my gems but naaah
Sim literally shows me versa over all
lofty nymph
Assa still better than Outlaw?
faint path
How you guys feel for the coming Assa nerfs
nothing gonna change for m+
fallen forge
How you guys feel for the coming Assa nerfs
it wont stop the people in wowhead comments and blizz forums from crying for more
plain onyx
Assa still better than Outlaw?
imo ? outlaw is g@y
fallen forge
but im glad we dont really have to pay a PI tax
lofty nymph
Outlaw is just pretty rng
boreal glacier
!fuu
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slim pebble
Branch added so much dps to my opener it feels so good
vapid skiff
aint no way vers is higher than main stat
he is just saying something so blatantly wack you will have to sim to see for yourself
which is what you should do
so he is helping
boreal glacier
is branch better than ashes for m+ ?
vapid skiff
if you can pick up orbs when you want its always much better
ocean ginkgo
Assasination dead Sadge
brittle burrow
!wa
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LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
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Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
digital coral
Dedge spec rip
vapid skiff
spec dead so that meme can die with it i hope?
pliant remnant
imo ? outlaw is g@y
thank you mister 4chan
digital coral
One cannot simply kill a meme
vapid skiff
well whatewver you call it when people stop thinking its funny and dont use it anymore
plain onyx
thank you mister 4chan
assa is love bae
faint path
Versa assas ❤️
slim hamlet
I have never been parried on kingsbane before yestersday
vapid skiff
yes but you said vers>agi
faint path
yes but you said vers>agi
ye right
vapid skiff
which i assumed was to bait people into simming
because either way its so close with 2nd stats it depends heavily on gear pieces
dreamy elk
Does anyone know what I'd need to input into quick sim on Raidbots so I can sim my character with the nerfs?
vapid skiff
whispyr has done the sims on nerf for you already if you check the pins
dreamy elk
Yeah with the BIS sim profile. Just want to see what it'd look like for me.
vapid skiff
same but lower numbers
faint path
Idk how it shows versa higher than all over at assas like wtf
slim hamlet
I would like to see a no iron wire build too
vapid skiff
Idk how it shows versa higher than all over at assas like wtf
because you have enough agi mastery crit and haste to make your vers better
half dawn
quick q - how bad were the assa nerfs?
gloomy lake
indigo mulch
Not bad.
I mean oh noes it's the end of the world sin is dead time to unsub and delete my character and flame blizz on forums.
solid void
so i just complete fked up a reset. poisoned knife into v anish should insta reset shouldn't it?
vale mortar
I have insane input lag when i practice on valdrakken dummies. Does this happen to anyone else?
idle radish
buff sin
fallen forge
I have never been parried on kingsbane before yestersday
that happened to me once and i wanted to wipe the raid just to reset
i have delayed gnarlroot root burning phase so deathmark comes back, this is just one step further
slim hamlet
that happened to me once and i wanted to wipe the raid just to reset
2 of the 7 parries in 3 raids have was on the same boss
despair
rotund wagon
The damage profile sin has is still very nice tho
blazing jewel
sims do not equal actual performance
fallen forge
Versa assas ❤️
is that a patchwerk sim
faint path
is that a patchwerk sim
Nope aoe
rotund wagon
We still do damage at all the important times except maybe a little scuffed on smolderon
blazing jewel
how many good sin players are playing it without pi
winged sun
so which assa tonight wants to get destroyed by an outlaw
blazing jewel
zeross square up
gusty mirage
@winged sun can you not come in here and be annoying
winged sun
i lost last time oxi
gusty mirage
Just because zac tolerates you in outlaw doesn’t mean I will tolerate you here
Outside of smolderon if someone is playing unholy DK they’re trolling
That’s even after their 1.4% ST buff
dreamy elk
Oh brother.
pale wave
sin prob still gonna hold top raid dmg overall yeah?
blazing jewel
shackeling is quite the statement lol
gusty mirage
What happens if Blizzard hires me to be game director for WoW?
Might happen in 10.2.5
still steppe
gusty mirage
You’re acting as if a 10% buff is guaranteed
Assassination is not shackled by PI
It’s still good damage without PI
blazing jewel
this 4% nerf is being so blown out of proportion
gusty mirage
Lol
fallen forge
i go to outlaw channel for 2 min and i come back to see us dooming about a 4% nerf wtf
gusty mirage
Surely assassination wouldn’t sniff the top 100 parses on Volcross without externals
Because it doesn’t do good damage without PI right?
Brother what
gusty mirage
There’s 2 assa rogues without PI in the top 15 volcross sorted with no externals
blazing jewel
aug hooks barely matter for sin on st
and most peoples volcoros reclear kill times are absolute ass for sin
gusty mirage
And they’re in the top 50 instead of top 15
winged sun
and they are still top 100?
gusty mirage
Shackled