assassination

[crimson zephyr]

and I can change the missive later on?

[fluid glade]

yes

[placid robin]

with every recraft

[fluid glade]

as long as u have a crafter around u can recraft it whenever

[crimson zephyr]

so what's the 2nd slot here? at the bottom the empty one

[slim hamlet]

click on it and read it

[crimson zephyr]

fuck im dumb thanks

[fluid glade]

yeah

[slim hamlet]

I actually can't remember what it is lol

[deft vault]

pvp ilvl

[fluid glade]

its pvp shit

[slim hamlet]

oh

that's why I didn't remember

[balmy condor]

all the starts are good, and the toxic patch is the embellishment

oh

[slim hamlet]

Anything pvp related is instant pulverized in brain

[balmy condor]

that was

a while ago

[slim hamlet]

yep

n00b

[balmy condor]

discord not scrolling

gg

[agile geode]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1179077804189560932/image.png?ex=657878c6&is=656603c6&hm=40d354b599c48477390ae8ef0933607ebacbb8972ad82b65383541f41565aacb&=&format=webp&width=895&height=428

[slim hamlet]

Imagine not realising that

[crimson zephyr]

Does " Toxified Armor Patch in combination with Toxic Thorn Footwraps. " count as two embelishments? 1 for shoes one for patch?

[slim hamlet]

Never done that myself

[slim hamlet]

y

[balmy condor]

yes

[crimson zephyr]

so toxic shoes + toxic patch + life binders = can't be wrong?

first time using this crafting system thing - so excuse my noob questions here

[slim hamlet]

the toxic patch is on life binders

[crimson zephyr]

the guide says " Toxified Armor Patch in combination with Toxic Thorn Footwraps. "

[slim hamlet]

Life binders is just a normal crafted non embellish

U put the patch on it to make it an embellish

[crimson zephyr]

thanks for clarification

[acoustic roost]

The real dick punch, at least for me just coming back to the game, is that the boots can only be crafted at the end of the Brackenhide Hollow instance. On a low pop server my crafting order stayed up for a few days until I found someone in trade who had a lockout

[south wing]

there’s an item that lets you craft outside iirc

[balmy condor]

ye

cauldron

[tacit charm]

do you shiv right before or right after shadow dance?

[balmy condor]

before

dance + kb together after

[tawdry crypt]

I feel like

this is way harder than outlaw kir lmao

[tacit charm]

ok thats what I was doing, just wanted to make sure

and then if im using ashes do I use it in the same GCD as kingsbane? or do I wait like 2 sec

[neat finch]

Did exist a macro for doing embush when it’s possible and doing mutilate when the furtively stop ?

[balmy condor]

you wait 3 sec into kb

[balmy condor]

blindside changes automatically

[neat finch]

Blindside ?

[balmy condor]

yeah the proc

[neat finch]

Poooh yes I’m à such idiot thanks mate !!!!!

[balmy condor]

np

[quiet oar]

Whisp

Envenomen chain on larodar

Are completely cringe

Or am i crazy

[balmy condor]

why

[quiet oar]

Or is this a Tank proboem

[balmy condor]

its just a boss

[lusty ermine]

how do you make a WA stay showing even out of combat?

[quiet oar]

Because this Boss is 33% out of range

[balmy condor]

change the trigger to show always

[dusty phoenix]

Just shadowstep into fire and Blame healers when u die

After charge

[balmy condor]

it runs back real quick

[quiet oar]

Idk didnt feel like that

Maybe they ran out Too far

Because sometimes they ran to the wall

[balmy condor]

whack

[quiet oar]

I mean

They always forget to kite him to the safezone

Not always but often

Even in heroic

[tawdry crypt]

is there a lot of downtime?

[obsidian galleon]

Do we play with CT in M+? seen some top builds not useing it

[tawdry crypt]

seems like I have nothing to press if all my shit is up and I"m not in cd

[urban pasture]

you guys use a macro for kingsbane?

[dusty loom]

I only have my kick, blind, gouge, shadow step, and death mark as macros. Mouseover for kick and ss and CCs, and DM with on use trinket.

[thorny aurora]

Shadow dance + kingsbane can be used

[arctic current]

I use a cast sequence macro so i dont screw it up... any downside to that?

[south wing]

no need

[tight atlas]

If im hoping to get one of the log reviews i see under the channel do i just post the log here?

[thorny aurora]

Does anyone have any tips for cd usage on mythic Nymue? Do you hold death mark for the mythic add?

[arctic current]

I just found a few times id hit it too early and brick my entire opener

[obsidian galleon]

Im curious, new to Rogue btw. But some use Crimson tempest for keys and some not? why? and what is the best builds

[balmy condor]

crimson tempest is an aoe only button, some people prefer to focus on single target and let the tier set do aoe

[obsidian galleon]

Maybe that is the best way, idk

[tawdry crypt]

I was looking at logs and there are top parses just pressing envenom on cd at 4+ cp, what is the benefit to wait for <1s on envenom

[balmy condor]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[balmy condor]

it's about 1.5% versus not pooling at all

[tawdry crypt]

so you're saying the logs that aren't doing this are losing 3k dps st?

that's wild.

[balmy condor]

yes

[onyx falcon]

whats a decent KB? 2M dps?

[earnest remnant]

there are alot of things at play in logs in terms of parsing, that can heavily outweigh you loosing 1.5% from not pooling (you should still do it though)

[gusty sleet]

Did we get official notes for rogue nerfs or something? People are talking about rogue and dh being on the chopping block a ton.

[woven frost]

See pins

[gusty sleet]

Ooo, sorry, on mobile lol

Welp, nevermind then lol, ty Viri!

[woven frost]

No worries! They actually made it so you can see pins on mobile too. Hit the people icon in top right, then pins

but to answer your question, nothing official yet!

[gusty sleet]

Didn’t even know that lol, thank you again! And yeah, I’m just trying to keep up on all the latest xD

[clever sapphire]

its just doomers because the 2 specs are actually strong

(but dh is truly dumb, you cant fuck up with that spec in m+)

[arctic hare]

Yes, you can actually

15 WM.

[peak coyote]

hello! I've been starting rogue assa for 3 weeks, I've never played it before, can I upload a Nymue log? I get a low parse and I don't know how to optimize the rotation

[slate crown]

I just did a WM

[gaunt moat]

is there a suggested build for lower level m+ where things just die too quickly?

[slate crown]

And I saved all my stuff for the first ahllway witch

But..... it didn't spawn

[woven frost]

I like AP for that

[south wing]

Sudden demise

[burnt zodiac]

Question, is there a weakaura that will remind me to pop trinked 2s after kingsbane? using Ashes of Embersoul

[slate crown]

I was planning it out like "Ok the ret is going to blow his load on the first pack so I'm going to hold back, then I'm going to DM on the witch", but the witch never spawned so I was just standing there with my CDs ready and didn't play them at all because I was waiting on the witch

Is it supposed to spawn there or?

[runic hinge]

I have ashes and I just have it macroed into kb because I kept forgetting to use it.

[solar night]

witch spawn locations are random among predifined points

[runic hinge]

It’s like -.4

[earnest remnant]

welcome to waycrest manor

they rotate each week xD

[slate crown]

[burnt zodiac]

yeaahhhh ima just do that, lmao thats what i was thinking of doing alrdy just to not forget

[slate crown]

My profile below (LE) has Kingsbane timeline as the top 1-2 results, that has a tick for when to use ashes

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[slate crown]

You mean like that first hallway (left side) will always not have a witch till next week, or is there some way I can know ahead of time?

[earnest remnant]

if i remember it correctly yeah they rotate each week

[slate crown]

OK, good to know

[ashen moth]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[obsidian ridge]

how do you use witherbarks branch well? I'd imagine you would pick up 2 orbs to last through the first 4 seconds of kb and pick up the last to have 3 stacks for the remaining duration of kb?

if thats even understandable, my english is not good

[vivid seal]

does anyone have a advances sim apl for simming weapon runes?

I could of sworn i saw one in here a while back

[strange python]

whats our bis embellishments for raid?

[digital rover]

hey what buddy do you use on pip's trinket?

because i cant proc mastery if im using pips mastery right?

[obsidian ridge]

isnt that a random thing? you just punch shit, sometimes you reroll your friend and then u get big ass stat boost depending on which friend you have, which again, is random

[digital rover]

ohhhh

im dumb

i thought it was like omniscece

that you pick one

xD

[obsidian ridge]

not that im aware of

[runic hinge]

Can you make it scream at me so I don’t forget

[slate crown]

Yes

It has a sound option in custom options

Go forth, already there 😛

[flint pond]

where can I find the simc input to sim consumables?

[obsidian ridge]

this doesnt answer your question directly but are you aware you can choose which consumable your sim should use on raidbots? it's probably very tedious and that's why you're asking but still

[flint pond]

they're used to be an advance simc input in the sub faqs I think but now I can't find it

[runic hinge]

Oh nice. I’ll unmacro and gain some dps

[real beacon]

In SD i spam ambush or spend combo on envenom?

[strange python]

Is there any estimation of how much damage Augs aren't getting back? It's kinda crazy looking at no-PI logs and how much we fall

[runic hinge]

Some of these

[strange python]

But what percent of each should Augs be stealing

[runic hinge]

Idk how much they add to each. Also depends on if they’re buffing you as the ability is happening. Like sudden demise and caustic aren’t 24/7

[strange python]

Right

[runic hinge]

Poisoned edges is also last set 2 piece

[strange python]

Just curious what dps meters look like if we napkin math out what aug should be stealing and without PI. Cause I'm pretty sure sub is better if so

[runic hinge]

Caustic on gnarlroot tho kinda huge. Tindral too

[burnt zodiac]

Would it be better to macro trink into deathmark? since ashes is 2 min and deathmark is also 2 min? (i dont wanna press trink and have to time it after kingsbane)

[dark token]

Only sanguine blades on ST

Is not that big

[strange python]

I heard 4set might be too

[dark token]

Augs give you what like +30% dmg

It's not in the list

[dark token]

If you don't wanna time it

Macro it to kingsbane instead

[strange python]

Are we sure the list is correct and exhaustive?

[burnt prism]

is there a witherbark branch weakaura? i cant find one on wago

[slate crown]

!wa Check LE Profile

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[balmy condor]

some of those got fixed already

[fast phoenix]

Trying to understand the kingsbane WA, anyone have an image or can tell me what each hash mark means on it?

Im guessing they’re place holders telling you where to shiv, rupture, garrote etc

[slate crown]

Go to the Custom options page

[fast phoenix]

Ahh thank you so much haha

[slate crown]

🙂

[runic hinge]

That was what I screenshotted Tuesday from GitHub so idk. Had a friend in my dms screaming about rogue nerfs. I needed to deflect.

[fast phoenix]

Huge help thank you.

[balmy condor]

sanguine still dedge

but spatter and tier got fixed

[runic hinge]

I’m not telling him that. He said it was unfair mage got nerfed after their rework for PI and Aug but doesn’t see the hypocrisy of telling me Tuesday that the spec I play is way outta line.

[balmy condor]

fun

[willow grotto]

The problem is that the assa will be nerfed while the external buffs are the problem

[tall atlas]

u doing ok bby

[slate crown]

Grats!

[strange python]

killed it on a decent pull of mine too, and still only got a 48 hah

[balmy condor]

morning was annoying but rest of the day has been good

[modest sand]

Yo guys, for the veteran rogue players, I'm playing a rogue in the Wow SoD. Is it still possible to do the frontstabbing build or did blizzard fix that in classic?

[violet jackal]

https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/494574420854308884

[modest sand]

my bad

[slate crown]

But also yes, frontstabbing was fixed when classic was first released

Never worked on the classic blizzard servers, only original vanilla and private servers

[slate crown]

I've had a real hard time parsing on Tind/Fyrakk

Even though I'm hitting things what I think are at decent timings, but I think the biggest problem for like, Fyrakk, is that I only pug and so the add phase is always uncoordinated and all over the place

so I ahve no means of decently getting real cleave damage in and end up with a ton of downtime

[strange python]

yeah i sent A LOT of kb's into transitions i know that

[slate crown]

Getting purples on every other boss, just green on tind/fyrak

I also never get PIs or anything

[lethal vector]

from whispyrs aoe video. does anyone know if its possible to do the debuff highlighting with threatplates?

or am i gonna need another nameplate addon?

only thing that i've seen similar from threatplates is to make the debuffs flash when under a certain duration, but i much prefer to have them highlighted instead

[echo jay]

You could just get player and use whispyrsprofile

[hexed willow]

That’s cev’s profile isn’t it?

[lethal vector]

so its a WA?

[hexed willow]

It’s a plater profile

[lethal vector]

oh plater kk

[balmy condor]

might want to ask the threatplate discord or something, I don't know many people that use it, would be harder to get someone in here

[hexed willow]

Plater is a nameplate replacement

[lethal vector]

ok yeah im using threatplates but i may need to make the switch to plater

[indigo epoch]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[hexed willow]

Player is solid, I’ve used it for classic and retail to much happiness. Lots of great scripts too

[echo jay]

Yeah plater is great and lots of good profiles people already have made

[lyric silo]

On mythic Larodar think it's worth doing quick opener for adds or is it a value loss?

[tall cradle]

Hey guys I have a question, in an aoe pull, do you dance for kingsbane or dance later on to reapply garrotes?

[oak lagoon]

question

On first and second boss, with adds and spears, what talent do you go

only spatter?

[hexed willow]

Yes

[shy grove]

you can sort w-logs by class and see the top parse specs

but yes

[hexed willow]

Adds go spatter. No adds, no IB

Exception possibly for council/nymue but that’s all pretty debateable

[oak lagoon]

cuz damn i feel like i do less damage focusing spears

and i mean the adds its fine

[slate crown]

Either. Those are both valid uses for dance, it really depends on the key, tank pulls, key level, etc, something you just ahve to feel out

[oak lagoon]

but ya

[gilded oasis]

focus spears is someone else's job

[shy grove]

i think the top council parse drops dashing for carnage

and that's it

[hexed willow]

You can focus spears when not in your CDs

[shy grove]

tell your spear people to get closer

[hexed willow]

But if you’re in your CD don’t swap

[oak lagoon]

yeah thats what i do

but look

wait

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/arQHGLTnKNgYy3Wx

[shy grove]

similar to Tswift, if someone complains on how long their roots are up but they drop them in western plaguelands that shit is on them

[oak lagoon]

xd

does it look fine

what i posted

cuz ya like on those 2 boss i feel like i losse dps

i mean the second boss the adds

weren't stack

but ya

[shy grove]

your spatter damage is real low on igira, so yea

stuff either isnt in range or..

[oak lagoon]

yeah stuff wasn't in range

i mean for first boss

the spears

they stack only 2

per

so

idk

[tardy lance]

in a +20 key and higher

[oak lagoon]

the spear were kinda close, but like not enough to get spatter with boss

[tardy lance]

how often do you Deathmark and/or kingsbane in a pack?

or do you always save for the boss?

Ik it's a hard question to answer

I just need to get used to not perma holding them

cause I feel like I SHOULD be using them on big pulls or prio targets etc.

[oak lagoon]

@shy grove ^

[gilded oasis]

idk I full send unless the pack is about to die or wont live the whole duration AND a boss is coming. depedning on the situation I KB and DM at different times cause other people are slamming CDs and its all dying too quick

[slate crown]

Yes. It's a judgement call every pull. But usually don't save for boss only, if mobs are all dying super fast or if there are no beefy mobs, then yeah

And yeah like Zar, I try to desync from other people's DPS cds

[gilded oasis]

or if its a beefy guy you can DM KB dance etc

[spice spire]

Ur so real for that

[gilded oasis]

Ur so cute for that

[spice spire]

[shy grove]

knowing the time it takes to get to bosses, get done with packs etc, comes with repeated runs

and once you know those, you can place DM more optimally

but really, go full send on fort weeks and kill important targets in big pulls

[tardy lance]

cheers peoples

I guess it is something I just need to get used to

[gilded oasis]

I usually hold DM too long Im sure but it works out

[tardy lance]

on dummies I can pull like, 400/ 500k

but obvs I use my cds

[errant swallow]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[tardy lance]

then in actual dungeons I never do

so only do like 250ish

[shy grove]

you can watch some of the big m+ streamers and just look at the timers in their dungeons

[tardy lance]

maybe 300

[shy grove]

literally see how many minutes pass between bosses, packs

[tardy lance]

time to start making ADHD spreadsheets so Ik when to use every CD

[shy grove]

you do you 😉

[tardy lance]

on which trash pack and so on

[gilded oasis]

its going to change with your comp and group too unless you always run the same

[west blaze]

What made me hold it less is having a disc priest friend in discord who starts bitching at me whenever I hold it too long.

[tardy lance]

i baso only do keys with the same group so makes it easier

[tulip trench]

anyone have a good weak aura or addon to help track bleeds and dots etc?

[south wing]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[tulip trench]

great, ty tytyt yt

[south wing]

I use Cev’s but they’re all amazing

[oak lagoon]

hmm ya there's clearly something wrong with my rotation i did second in dps but i parsed less then people below me like what

[timid talon]

Is there anything worth dropping for acrobatic strikes on nymue?

[gilded oasis]

parses dont work like that

[balmy condor]

yeh that's pretty normal

[oak lagoon]

oh ok

[balmy condor]

parses compare to other people on that spec

[gilded oasis]

parses are against other of your spec not

[balmy condor]

so you versus all assassination rogues

[gilded oasis]

ok whispyr too fast

[balmy condor]

zar boomer finger

[gilded oasis]

im eating dinner

so yeah

[balmy condor]

more fudge into my gullet

[south wing]

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/open-food-mouth-feed-me-tom-and-jerry-gif-14548375

[oak lagoon]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/arQHGLTnKNgYy3Wx#fight=last&view=rankings&playermetriccompare=statistics

[gilded oasis]

[oak lagoon]

like ya idk

is there something wrong that i do

[balmy condor]

zar imported like 25 pounds of fudge and cookies for blizzcon and it was all insanely banger

[gilded oasis]

Honestly with parses you're better off looking at like your casts, wasted energy, wasted cp, etc vs parse. Most top parses are either getting PI or Aug buffs, get lucky with no mechanics, have good kill times etc. I mean its a fine number to look at but dont base your life on it

[gaunt moat]

try the "no dance" build on wowhead.

[gilded oasis]

wowanalyzer isnt up to date yet but it still gives some relevant suggestions...kinda.

[south wing]

that’s great, good fudge is such a treat

[oak lagoon]

@wild terrace thx u bb

[gilded oasis]

not that anyone asked

[balmy condor]

played this, was fine

[spice spire]

I looked at the first 25s of this log. Didn’t tea at the end of kb.
Also you wasted a lot of garrote cp

I’m sure there’s a ton

[south wing]

what’s ur PayPal

[spice spire]

But

[spice spire]

Send

[oak lagoon]

you tea at the last 3 sec?

with vanish?>

[gilded oasis]

vanish at 3 tea at uh 6?

[oak lagoon]

oh right

[gilded oasis]

yeah sickx

six

wow Im having a stroke

[oak lagoon]

even with almost full energy?

[gilded oasis]

I have a list, the list might have room next year

[gilded oasis]

Yeah youre sending tea for the mastery not the energy at that point

[balmy condor]

zar faster

smh

[oak lagoon]

ok thx u

[gilded oasis]

BOOMER SMH SMH SMFD

[balmy condor]

I'm washed

rinsed and hosed down

[south wing]

I’ve been following Whispyr’s rotation priority list on wowhead and it’s like having a cheat sheet. Bouta print it out and tape it to my screen

[oak lagoon]

xd

[gilded oasis]

It helps too if you understand why you do them in the order you do. Or at least for me it makes it easier to remember oh do xy then z

[south wing]

I haven’t played this spec since legion so I’m learning a lot of new stuff this patch

[hexed willow]

Whispyr’s sheet doesn’t tell me what to do when I die to the fire on ground

[balmy condor]

I would do the same, but my screen is already full of hastily scribbled post-its of incredibly niche and specific insults to throw at people in the channel when they make my blood pressure spike to the moon

[timid talon]

Thanks, this is what I was running just wanted to make sure it wasn't smooth brained.

[hexed willow]

Needs an update pls

[south wing]

the ring thing earlier

[flat reef]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1179077804189560932/image.png?ex=657878c6&is=656603c6&hm=40d354b599c48477390ae8ef0933607ebacbb8972ad82b65383541f41565aacb&=&format=webp&width=895&height=428

[south wing]

true true, can we get a section for this?

[balmy condor]

one time someone posted a selfie for no reason and before I deleted it I said "you look like if a muppet made a muppet" and he was insanely stunlocked irl

some of my better work tbh

[south wing]

can we get this pinned

[slate crown]

This is what peak socialization performance looks like, honestly.

[hexed willow]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif?width=337&height=600

[south wing]

thanks for the smile

not sure when that will stop having that effect on me

[gilded oasis]

never

[balmy condor]

typically it'll stop being funny after you're on the receiving end of the cannon

verbally

using the english language

not my dick

[south wing]

not gonna lie, you had me in the first half

[slim pebble]

If someone told me I looked like a muppet made a muppet I’d have to applaud them tbh

[balmy condor]

I was a child actor in those early 2000's commercials for water guns like the super soakers

[south wing]

bro what

[balmy condor]

I did think it was weird harvey weinstein was directing commercials but ya know

[spice spire]

Ur the oldest mf here

Also can’t believe I got big timed

[south wing]

grats

oh I thought you were saying “you made the big times” like being made in a mob or something

[spice spire]

Nah

She W H ‘d me

[balmy condor]

quake's made the big leagues

(my dm's)

[spice spire]

Ur dms are half wild half breakdown

Ur just like me fr

[south wing]

oh my god those are glasses on your dog

[spice spire]

Yes

[south wing]

[spice spire]

[south wing]

smort boi

whispyr streaming

[bitter jetty]

Is recuperator bugged?

[balmy condor]

ya

[bitter jetty]

Oh

[plush vessel]

in aoe inside of mplus, ive seen some people not press slice and dice when do you prefer to not do it ?

[bitter jetty]

Is there another talent that’s better to take then

[slate crown]

Is it like "0 function no benefit" bugged or "Kinda works kinda doesn't" bugged?

[oak lagoon]

i forgot to pot on every fight 🤦‍♀️

[balmy condor]

it just breaks randomly

[gilded oasis]

can macro pot into DM if you want except maybe on gnarl if you wanna min/max

[oak lagoon]

yeah i did

but i did it wrong

xd

[drifting cloud]

@gusty mirage anyone streaming your raid

[gilded oasis]

rip

[gusty mirage]

ye I'll go live in a sec

just went live

[drifting cloud]

[keen spruce]

[plush vessel]

is SnD worth skipping in aoe ? for mplus for some pulls ?

[vast loom]

no it costs 1 gcd and you should ahve it up most of the dungeon

[tawdry crypt]

does cloak remove larodars orb debuff

[peak bobcat]

i think assassination on smolderon is gas

what happens if you use cds at 1-4(lust)-6 instead of 0-2-4-6

its 100% dam right?

[oak tangle]

i've no idea how the timings work, but i feel like it's probs inting to restructure your raid cds around a sin

[drifting cloud]

youre trading 2 regulars dms with 1 amped dm with pot

[gilded oasis]

what difficulty?

[drifting cloud]

so I doubt its a huge swing either way

[oak tangle]

if it's not mythic you can't int

[dark token]

There is no 6th intermission

Unless u mean minutes

[peak bobcat]

minutes

[dark token]

You wanna kb pull

[peak bobcat]

yeah obviously

[dark token]

Dm intermission 1 and 3, KB intermission 2 and 4, then dm after intermission 4

Maybe ask for autumn

[peak bobcat]

what would autumn do

realistically

[soft shale]

exile said they were thinking about autumn + evoker balls for assa to not be asscrack

but they decided not to in the end

[dark token]

What's the evoker balls

[soft shale]

cdr on major cd

[dark token]

Like what's talent name

[soft shale]

no idea at all

[tacit charm]

whats the accelerated opener for t-swift?

[soft shale]

i know it is a capstone

[spark scaffold]

garrote rupture ambush snd deathmark etc

[tacit charm]

ok ty

[spark scaffold]

you can do garrote ambush rupture mut snd aswell if your guild is fine with shield dmg

its alot comfier to play with full duration rupture during opener

[flat kindle]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[dark token]

Seems fun for farm

Idk if I can convince my raid to do this

Maybe if I was the only rogue and we didn't have 0.22% wipe

[soft shale]

oh you have 2 rogues now?

[dark token]

Ye

[eternal heath]

Oh, managed to get down Tindral in a pug

Then 2 attempts on Fyrakk and leader disbanded the group lol

[soft shale]

nice you can go fyrakk now

oh

[eternal heath]

I slapped on tindral though

Not purple parsing, but was top

For better or worse

[arctic socket]

yall uh ever farm out the dagger and forget your loot spec then uh

this happens?

[eternal heath]

oh no lmao

[soft shale]

i was doing so good until people learnt vines timings on all of their classes

[eternal heath]

I was blasting on vines lol

[arctic socket]

This

is

[eternal heath]

KEK

[arctic socket]

this is pain

[dusty loom]

Sorry for your loss

[arctic socket]

I want to commit war crimes against myself

[robust scaffold]

did u set ur loot spec as outlaw?

[arctic socket]

[robust scaffold]

oof

😦

[runic hinge]

It’s easy to not do that if you just one trick

[arctic socket]

Making a little collection

[olive veldt]

I have a nooby envonom chaining question of 4 set. Is the objective to maximize uptime of envenom? so always use it when 1 sec is left?

post pooling and all that good stuff

[arctic socket]

I ran throne of tides dont need anything from the placew as like Hey fuck it lemme set it to outlaw for the wep

forgot about that

[balmy condor]

pretty much yeah

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[balmy condor]

that should answer most of the questions

[ebon temple]

are you guys running aoe on tindral or just spatter?

[arctic socket]

Hey whispyr, How long did it take you to grab nicholas?

[eternal heath]

eat it demon hunters

[normal mist]

Yo my doods, how can i transform whelpling crests into drakes? i have the achievment for it, yet it doesnt not appear on the vendor

[soft shale]

you cant if you are on the cap

[zinc willow]

anyone have a link to the site that shows when people use CDs on fights?

[normal mist]

Well well well. You're fucking right my man

[lusty ermine]

on Tswift, should w ebe usig FoK or Mutilaate with caustic spatter?

on the roots

[fervent jasper]

Anyone got a WA for envenom?

[tight atlas]

Pretty sure I am reading this right, but want to confirm, we do pool/spend anytime we hit 4+ combo points? So if i was mid Envenom chain, mutilate to 4, i wouldnt generate anymore, just wait till ~1sec on envenom slam, and build till 4+ again? Put simply im never trying to build to full combo points. Just 4+ and send.

[soft shale]

it happens sometimes if you are at 2 or 3 and both hits with mut crit but that is cool

at worst you will have 2 casts

and at best 1

[tight atlas]

Yeah if we happen to get ahead great but never spend energy to get past 4

[fervent jasper]

Wait we spend at 4 CP not 5 or 6?

holy shit I've been doing it wrong

[tight atlas]

Im trying to see why i dropped envenom casts on my volc fight and thats the biggest thing i think i had read wrong in the guide the first time lol

[runic hinge]

It’s a negligible difference between 4+ and 5+. Don’t fret too hard

[fervent jasper]

Why do we spend at 4? a single mut would give us 6. Only overcap if we crit

[runic hinge]

But it does make it easier to chain and less wasted combo points

[fervent jasper]

I need an envenom WA

[runic hinge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[runic hinge]

The Le profile has one in there

[boreal raven]

is rupture being refreshed after the first envenom after sd/kb during opener or just sending envenoms

[olive veldt]

just to be clear envenom 6 sec > mutliate > mutliate> if I'm 5/6 stacks and and all my dots have time. stand pretty till its in pandemic

restraint is so so hard lol

[surreal citrus]

got a blazefury medal with avoidance on it we are so back

[solid mica]

!bos

does cloak get rid of orb stacks on larodar

?

[soft shale]

no

[solid mica]

thanks homie

[soft shale]

you can get 2 quite well but the 3rd will need externals and cheat likely

+cos

[charred mango]

whats the game plan during Council of Dreams? Who do we want to stick to

about to start mythic prog but in heroic it felt like they all jump away mid KB

[soft shale]

many diff tactics

some leave uctos near arwin others with pip

[charred mango]

generally though they are supposed to keep the bear next to one of the others right

[soft shale]

generally

but sometimes it can get pretty

krangled

[robust scaffold]

I know it's not necessarily the best necklace we can get in WoW at the moment, but since it only takes 5 minutes every day, I've been killing Kazzak every day to try to get that Blazefury Medallion and still have only gotten gold and we're breathing on 1 week left of the event. Actually sickening

[slim hamlet]

jusr dont cd urctos

he charges away most often

[charred mango]

do we care about trying to maintain bleeds on all 3 or just 2

[slim hamlet]

2

[charred mango]

kk

[slim hamlet]

unless they end up very close by themself

[charred mango]

what about the opener, is there an ideal main target?

[slim hamlet]

depends on your guild

[soft shale]

aewyn only jumps once at the beginning pip does stay put for a while

[charred mango]

so burst on pip then i guess? breaks ending soon ill give it a go

[soft shale]

depends if they move uctos to aegwyn you can spatter him

and same if they move it closer to pip

[halcyon hamlet]

timed 24 BRH, wish I could have done more but I died couple of times.

[eternal heath]

that is some fat damage

[slim hamlet]

👍

[quiet zealot]

for ST is it advisable to use borth branch and ashes? feels scuffed using 2 use trinkets but sim is high

[slim hamlet]

not outside smolderon no

and i guess mythic fyrakk

[zinc willow]

smolderon do you hold DM for first world in flames?

[oak tangle]

it sounds strong, but you need to consider, that running double on use, you don't have the passive trinket that props up the dm window even more

[slim hamlet]

y

[zinc willow]

use on first and third

[soft shale]

that helps quite a bit to fill this one without having to ask ahaah

[fast phoenix]

Man smolderon feels rough as sin, staring to realize why some go sub 😅

[drifting cloud]

well assa pops off after lust

so if youre not getting there yet its gonna look worse than it is

[slim hamlet]

our guild lusts on pull

[soft shale]

that is demonic

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/diesofcringe-gif-24606059

[drifting cloud]

were talking about mythic not hc

[slim hamlet]

yes i told them to do on dmg amp at least

we did it once and they feelycrafyed it to be bad

[keen spruce]

in mythic

?

[slim hamlet]

no

[keen spruce]

o

well in heroic it doesn't rly matter

well... that depends

[slim hamlet]

ofc not

[keen spruce]

[slim hamlet]

but

[soft shale]

it might matter because the apes are still alive

[slim hamlet]

why would u

[soft shale]

so they can do more than 0 dps

[slim hamlet]

lust on pull

[keen spruce]

i think we're gonna start lusting on pull

in heroic

[soft shale]

think that way you can get him to 35% on intermission

in hc

for some classes to go online

[slim hamlet]

surely better to just lust 1st still

[soft shale]

well it really depends on dps

[fast phoenix]

Yeah our guild isn’t great it’s random friends so we’re only on heroic, but the late lust feels awkward

[slim hamlet]

if u can kill 1st intermission with lust on pull, why would u not with lust on amp

[soft shale]

the idea is to get him to 35 before or soon into the intermission

[slim hamlet]

why

[olive veldt]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[slim hamlet]

they get to 35% somehow either way

now u just got bl too

[fast phoenix]

Yeah our group is lusting on intermission when he fly’s to middle

[soft shale]

you wont get to 35% without bl unless everyone is doing like 400k dps without it

before intermission

[slim hamlet]

this doesnt make sense

you get more value from the bl on amp

[soft shale]

we are talking with big gamers normal guild just lust first intermission or the execute one

[slim hamlet]

u are not gonna kill faster by it being 35% before and then no bl

with many holding for amp still

[soft shale]

sure we will not? wait 1 month before you see 1:40 min or so kills of the boss

or maybe even less if people dont split 15/15 like now

[slim hamlet]

bl in phase is still better no matter kill timer

doesnt make sense

[soft shale]

ok wont explain anymor

[oak tangle]

you'll be seeing some scuffed 40s in lust timers

[drifting cloud]

just make a raid of only raid buffs and assa rogues!

[strange python]

But where could we find that many assassination rogues?

[oak tangle]

🖐️

[slim hamlet]

idk how bloodlusting with no dmg amp and no cds is better than with both, unless you can kill it before the amp even happens

[plain moon]

M Larodar we dropping just rup for an accelerated opener?

[merry raven]

anyone willing to spend some time with me and look at some logs?
i'm just not pulling the numbers I should be and

[slim hamlet]

8 PI's, 8 rogues, 4 augs

[strange niche]

if not getting PI would law or sub do more dmg than sin?

[slim hamlet]

Oh I mean priests*

[spice spire]

Roughly similar

Just different profiles and niches

[slim hamlet]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/35#externalBuffs=2&class=Rogue

[spice spire]

PI just makes sin omega busto looking

[strange niche]

just curious, idk why but they swapped PI off of me on my opener and put it on our ele sham

[oak tangle]

link em and peeps can peep em

[slim hamlet]

[solid mica]

been happening in my guild too

idk

[slim hamlet]

wtf did i just read

[solid mica]

rogue bias

[spice spire]

HUH

[slim hamlet]

Ele shaman legit gain less from PI than we did last season

[oak tangle]

people hate us man

[slim hamlet]

[oak tangle]

they're all triggered by them pvpers that gank them while doing world quests

[slim hamlet]

https://bloodmallet.com/chart/power_infusion send them this and call them bozos

also why the fuck is uhdk suddenly 2k lower

[oak tangle]

i mean my raid pi's pally and dh. because it's who asks first

[runic hinge]

Stopped cheating their sims to keep getting pi

[slim hamlet]

Where do you all find these guilds

[slim hamlet]

They didn't stop

They just got caught

[oak tangle]

i don't do mythic so like, it's understandable

[slim hamlet]

smh

Me when they don't PI right target on lfr

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-smol-small-ragey-gif-26398063

[oak tangle]

us rogues without pi are singlehandedly trying to sandbag for nerfs

[slim hamlet]

We all gotta make cancelaura for PI macros

to dodge nerfs

[robust scaffold]

can I get someone's interrupt WA

I want a clean one

[slim hamlet]

omnicd

[robust scaffold]

does that actually work

wtf

[oak tangle]

i use ert

[robust scaffold]

i uninstalled it cus it wasn't showing up on my screen in keys -_-

[slim hamlet]

if u talking about party int tracker

[robust scaffold]

yes i am

[slim hamlet]

Haven't been bothered to set it up this season yet

All my UI died before season start

But I used it before

[south wing]

yes I use it

[dusk palm]

are these trinkets any good?

[soft shale]

yes

[dusk palm]

ok, thats good.

[runic hinge]

No. They are bad. You should give them to me

[frosty bolt]

roll for it

[runic hinge]

!roll

[frosty bolt]

i wish that was a command lmao

[dusk palm]

i've only done 10 or so galakronds

probably have a hundred more til i get my nicks

[frosty bolt]

i havent seen a single one drop in a week

[charred mango]

press KB-> insta ducked -> unduck-> boss jumps away when you get back to it

[dusk palm]

galakronds is so weird. you either 2-3 chest or fail it because heals cant do the thing

[delicate trench]

i see a lot of people playing the blind side build even when dragon tempered one sims higher is there a reason why people prefer that over posion bomb dragom temper ?

[frosty bolt]

blindside for me feels way smoother/less energy starv on ST but im a noob that does low keys

[outer cairn]

its fort week and i'm still going venom rush and blindside in 20s

still doing just fine in aoe

[delicate trench]

what would you do for 24s ?

[frosty bolt]

the hybrid build will shine more with 4p set too

[delicate trench]

hybrid is dragon tempered ?

[merry raven]

Anyone willing to take some time and help me look over logs if I send a DM?
I'm just not doing the damage I should be and I'm not entirely sure where I'm going wrong. Like I can pinpoint a few specific screwups, but overall I feel like I must doing something fundamentally wrong.

[frosty bolt]

yeah https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/DAOFVVFRRFURQmJBQCVBNVUVVVQZEAUKFUBE is hybrid down middle tree with DTB

[robust scaffold]

should I spend aspects crests upgrading these to 486 (already upgraded my boots to 486) or upgrade some other hero track items to max ilvl

i mean this is just BIS no?

[shy meteor]

are u supposed to try to be above 50% energy during kingsbane windows? or just slam abilities? Also - are you supposed to cast any lower cps? like 3 in kingsbane windows, or still wait for 4 cp and above?

[drifting cosmos]

No and no

You don’t pool in kb

[shy meteor]

and still follow the 4 cp right?

[drifting cosmos]

Yea

[shy meteor]

cool thanks

[keen spruce]

it doesn't matter

4+cp or 5+cp

same same

[shy meteor]

ye just meant the min cp to finish on

[keen spruce]

ye

only difference is that in KB

you're dumpin

outside your'e savin

[shy meteor]

yeah and not pooling

also, do you cast rupture during kb windows? or try to just have refreshed before u go in?

[keen spruce]

I do sometimes I don't sometimes

dont' think it makes a big enough difference to worry about

and you don't wanna get in the habit of refreshing out of pandemic before a KB just so you don't need to do it then

there's a bit of value in refreshing rupture in kb for nightstalker i just don't know if it's technically better than just getting envs out for kb

[unique sorrel]

ive decided. Mythic Council is fucking miserable

[runic hinge]

I think if I can get a rupture in there because I have a lot of envenom time I’ll do it but if I’m worried it’ll drop I won’t. And sometimes I just rupture during the vanish

[shy meteor]

can't u refresh outside of kb, but in your vanish window? i ususally do that

for ns

[gilded river]

is ashes of ember buged?

i feel like that dire garbage never proc

[balmy condor]

a third of your group has to die I think

might be half

[gilded river]

so its a shitty version of wings

[balmy condor]

I guess if wings procs after a portion of your raids dies yeah

idk how wings works

[gilded river]

guessing u dont reccomend it over sandglass and bark?

or barks and pip

[balmy condor]

you can play ashes over bark if you want

but it's always ashes/bark + passive

[gilded river]

copy that

o7

[keen flume]

Sims telling me to go high vers lol... Have more vers than haste anyone else in a similair spot?

had me swap out gems and ring enchants for vers

[balmy condor]

happens

[keen flume]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fJEmCRxoqDYePUcx8u4mRG

[forest notch]

we did it

1/2

only like 5th run though

[balmy condor]

im so glad I got mythic dagger

so I don't have to farm a second

[soft shale]

same igira dagger saving sanity

[forest notch]

Ya I probably do as my other dagger is

is a Heroic Cruel close though?

[balmy condor]

equal ilvl is -1%

[forest notch]

kk

I need to farm some aspects and crap anyway so time to just dung spam

For raid, is there recommended specs/talent changes for each boss?

like Gnarl for example

Should I grab anything AOE related?

or just stick with the main raid spec

[warped pilot]

if there are adds at any point, take caustic, otherwise take the bleed one

[forest notch]

ok cool

[warped pilot]

basically the only change i've been seeing

[forest notch]

so basically Gnarl is a good example to take caustic

[warped pilot]

ye

[rancid bane]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[forest notch]

cool

so minor ST loss for some extra AOE oomf

exactly what I was looking for

[gilded river]

wafting devo still the play?

or sophic?

[warped pilot]

sims, but i've seen play with both, one of each, or stacking them.

[gaunt sigil]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[neat plank]

ignoring sims, has anyone here personally used wafting after using sophic? did it FEEL better to play with for you? 🙂

the problem I have with it is, even though right now I don't have massive haste or anything, during execute phase I'll have "infinite" energy and it would feel like wasted stats

however outside of execute phase I feel dry and starved of energy and wanting more haste

[balmy condor]

I don't feel shit

wafting has no impact on my gameplay

I thought I was playing double wafting and turns out I was playing double sophic

[harsh anchor]

I can smell the boss more when my daggers start wafting

[sterile perch]

is cataclysmic signet brand or accelerating sandglass better for M+ if i had to pick 1 or the other.

[potent dawn]

The feels when you finish raid and realize you were in caustic cleave for Smold and Nymue but forgot

[neat plank]

ah ok nvm then, I notice haste a lot, just switching from crab trinket to sandglass made my gameplay much smoother

[runic hinge]

I do one of each so my hands glow differently

[forest notch]

Anyone got any free time to give this a high level set of eyes? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LfMKd3wcv2qVTNW6#fight=last&type=damage-done&source=4

Just curious if im doing ok for my gear or if im massively messing things up
Me = SneeakyPete

[bold temple]

Signet brand is for ST so you’re better off with sandglass

[neat plank]

I dont like that. I want symmetry 🙂

[fallen knoll]

Symmetry is so boring

[runic hinge]

So is wearing a full set but I do that too

[granite sentinel]

signet is trash for m+

it need stacks to do damage

peeps + ashes is go to for keys

trinket from last boss may kinda work too but i aint test it yet

[jade abyss]

i do something wrong or is our 4p so strong good in m+ ? mostly rang 2 on my overall dmg o.o

[mystic osprey]

this build seem any good? no scent of blood seems wack

[jade abyss]

i would say sim it but skip 10% bleed dmg sounds not worth

[fallen knoll]

If you have witherbark it's better than ashes

Talking m+

[mystic osprey]

its from this guys video

he was doing a 22 dht

how do you sim builds

[strange python]

lmfao

[fallen knoll]

No scent no sd no flying daggers, not sure this is good for fortified

[mystic osprey]

yeah ik

I wanna sim it

this guy was using it on a 22

243k overall

1.3m burst he did

[fallen knoll]

Flying daggers/venom rush is pretty much w/e but sd scent are just the go to for m+. Dunno tho maybe he knows something we don't

[neat plank]

you joined LFR?

[proven carbon]

how does sin hold up in m+

[mystic osprey]

im simming them both

see what happened

[mystic osprey]

terrible wouldnt play it

not even best m+ class

only top damage on the charts every key I do

[fallen knoll]

Unless there's a dh

[proven carbon]

im really bad at reading sarcasm over text

i see a lot of sin players in m+ premade groups recently and not as many outlaws

[fallen knoll]

It's pretty good, good aoe good st, spiteful is draining my blood tho

[neat plank]

you join low keys? 😄

[mystic osprey]

😢

[tacit charm]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nZ9DxqYeSXiMpWWewTWQyB

wooooo!

[tame tangle]

in m+ trash packs do we just hold vanish during kb to then get another ic window later when bleeds have fallen off

[tacit charm]

finally broke 200k

[strange comet]

man these spitefulls make me sick this week... doesnt let me stealth and many other thing...

[hoary isle]

depends on the situation. This week I have been using it when MY TANKS DONT LET ME RESTEALTH.

[distant plinth]

Tell them to let you re stealth on bosses atleast

[hoary isle]

but they are tanks .. how can I speak like that to my superiors?

[jade abyss]

thats what i do i get my restealths before boss thats enough in my opinion

[hoary isle]

or stealth the pack before and dont open at all

till boss

[jade abyss]

except second boss throne hes a son of a b*tch

[distant plinth]

I told a tank if you dont let me re stealth on bosses im gonna leave😂

[hoary isle]

I have been kicked before for using this tactic

[fallen knoll]

2nd boss in tott is literally just tank and spank, stack swirlies knockback just ss, fok the little shits every now and then to knock em back, lowkey easiest boss in there

[runic hinge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[jade abyss]

dont knwo why but this boss breaks my stealth everytime he gets pulled

[still stirrup]

Sometimes you can get a restealth inbetween mobs dying and shades spawning

[mystic osprey]

it simmed higher for me

wtf

[still stirrup]

Provided that was the last mob and there are no current shades

[latent copper]

do you macro the ecceft of Cruel Dreamcarver and if, how?

[bold temple]

You could macro it to another 1 min like dance/kingsbane

[mystic osprey]

shit

I forgot that dagger was on sue

[bold temple]

/use cruel dreamcarver

[mystic osprey]

use

[latent copper]

ty

[hushed fern]

Any log preview guy online?

[past forum]

Don’t you only need to use it once?

[gusty mirage]

[fallen knoll]

Don't you also want to use it only on beasts cuz of the leech being the only somewhat useful thing

[gusty mirage]

the leech is high key useless as well

[past forum]

Use it on critters to sandbag

[gusty mirage]

but yeah, either leech, movespeed, or the shitty cheat death

not many options

[past forum]

I actually got killed by the water-walking one on my way to TotT

[fallen knoll]

Well every effect on it is pretty much useless, aliexpress cd or leech probably the best options if you care about the use effect

[waxen oyster]

its basically the mechagnome racial

[mystic osprey]

This build is simming better than hybrid and shiv on raidbots somehow

dungeonslice

[neat plank]

SD seems garbage to me for fort, less than 2% overall

[runic hinge]

Why are you taking dtb and not taking amp

[fallen knoll]

You take sd for the 10% bleed, the bonus effect is just extra, 10% alone is worth taking

[runic hinge]

And secondly Sudden demise is good for the 10% bleed the effect is whatever

[neat plank]

I supposed🙂

[waxen crown]

someone knows which weapon rune the raidbot sim use?

[runic hinge]

taking DTB and playing deadly and isntant seems troll to me

[past forum]

Sanguine tech with wound poison

[runic hinge]

I just simmed this

And it's a loss in Dslice compared the the raid single targt build so maybe I need to get off the stove

[gusty mirage]

[waxen oyster]

dslice sims are weird

[runic hinge]

Hybrid simming 17k over raid build and AP/blindside 13k over

[lapis lantern]

Hey 🙂 when playing the arterial build in m+, do I still spam FOK at 3+ target or do i multilate the shit out of my prio target?

[neat plank]

mutilate to keep up caustic spatter, otherwise FOK

[still steppe]

anyone's fok generates like 1 cp in 3+ targets or isit just me

[forest notch]

Caustic worth for Igira?

[grim jay]

Nothing with the build changes in a way that you would change the usage

[real stirrup]

I feel like it just has a mind of it's own - when there's like 6-7 mobs sometimes I don't even get 4, I think you have to position yourself right

[still steppe]

very

[fallen moss]

yes, if heroic or mythic

[forest notch]

cool

thought so

[fallen moss]

what are yall pushing after vanish window? garrote? spam ambush/envenom?

[still steppe]

garrote ambush rupture if its in like mythic bosses

if its in m+ i just spam envenom

[waxen oyster]

depends what cps you were at

when you vanished

[still steppe]

that too ^

[waxen oyster]

you need 1 of the gcds to be garrote

[granite sentinel]

imo ashes is better

[jade abyss]

Guys i try to use the dance macro with kb. I create it and can play with it. But everytime i log out the macro gets entire deleted and i must create it again.. someone knows why maybe?

[grim jay]

Atleast you said imo

[still steppe]

u log out by actually pressing logout dont alt f4

then it should be saved

[jade abyss]

I never log out with alt f4

[waxen oyster]

ashes you can make a case for its better in raid

[still steppe]

it is better.... i can barely find my orbs in raids and if the boss is running away im screwed

[waxen oyster]

when you dont wanna deal with it and raid ground effects

[grim jay]

Sounds like a you problem

[still steppe]

[waxen oyster]

ashes more reliable to get though

tbf

[grim jay]

Yeah sure if you cant manage to play witherbark properly, then ashes is more reliable

[still steppe]

i think on mythic larodar your 2nd deathmark aligns with when the boss has to move i always get like 2 orbs and miss the 3rd one

[waxen oyster]

ofc in a rwf setting

you cant just pause prog

to farm branch

[blazing jewel]

you can still get all 3 if you plan for it

[fallen moss]

what is this branch you speak of? never seen it drop

[blazing jewel]

just grab the furthest 2 first

[grim jay]

You could wait a sec instead of smashing your keyboard or do what scana said

[waxen oyster]

larodar was just

wait for ranged to learn how to do

the water

[loud brook]

mut still on 3 targets or fan?

[grim jay]

That takes a while for the average ranged

[still steppe]

yeah i should probably get into habit of doing that for larodar it becomes muscle memory to just take front 2 and wait for the back one to come over

[grim jay]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[forest notch]

We spam EV inside KB right? (Aside from shiv etc)

[blazing jewel]

just all about how you angle it when you use the trinket

its annoying though lol

[grim jay]

Or refresh what you need to refresh

[forest notch]

Also after KB where does that huge amount of energy come from? Should I just be spamming 6cp Envenoms?

Until it equalizes

I assume capped Enegy is bad?

[grim jay]

Capped energy is wasted damage

[waxen oyster]

well yes any capped energy is energy that cant generate

[neat plank]

only if you don't spend it before the fight's over

[loud brook]

fair. it was a question i keep forgetting to look up, got into a raid and figured id ask for a quick answer

but I shall read the guide

[neat plank]

oh you mean capped over max :p

[grim jay]

Well capped is max

[neat plank]

-_-

[forest notch]

Also in terms of 4+ CP Envenoms If I have high Energy. If EV still has like Greater than 1 second left. Should I still send at 4CP or goto 6 CP and send it?

[neat plank]

was thinking pooling instead of capping

[forest notch]

but ya I assume we dont follow pooling rules when Energy is on the high end, hitting cap

[grim jay]

4 vs 6 doesnt really make a diff

Marginal at best

[forest notch]

ahh so just send 4 and get more envenoms out?

I assume EV is how we spend our CPs if capped

[grim jay]

You can send at 4 if you see it but if you mut to 6 its fine aswell

[forest notch]

or is capped CPs fine and we just spam mutilate if energy is capped and use EV when we need to refresh

[jade abyss]

Its never good to waste cps

[forest notch]

cool, just wanted to make sure

[grim jay]

CPs > energy

[forest notch]

now that im familiar with the general rotation

im trying to learn the more min max stuff

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[mystic osprey]

simming its better for some reason

idk why

im gonna sim and see if blindside is better

I do have blindside already

huh

idk

[slate crown]

What is going on here

Why is instant poison being talked about

[runic hinge]

I like the idea of taking the 4 left side capstones but I can't make it work

this guy has a build with DTB but no amp

Also how do I put a custom sound in a WA

[slate crown]

In any WA or in my WA? You asked about ashes tick sound earlier

[runic hinge]

Yeah I wanna do a stuart woo for when I need to ashes

[slate crown]

I don’t support custom sounds at the moment but it’s on my todo list

[runic hinge]

Okay good to know. Zar has a Stuart woo in the cats and dogs channel whenever you get to it, I know youre busy

Or

I'll do it when you get there

[slate crown]

Yeah was going to say :p

I’m not making custom sound files

I’ll support it by giving you a place to specify the sound

But you have to make the .ogg, I have no idea how to do that

[runic hinge]

I mean you could just make the WOO your default WA sound

[slate crown]

Nope 😦

It’s a great sound

But it’s not in WA default

So anyone who takes the WA can’t hear it unless they also download the sound file separately

[runic hinge]

Ohhhh

[upper spear]

3rd TS acquired

double hero bb

[slate crown]

My work involves creating a custom string input where users (you) can enter a file path as an override sound to play, and properly pivot to that sound when it need to play.

Your task is procuring the sound file and putting it in your wow directory, then specifying the path in the custom option.

[runic hinge]

I see

[mystic osprey]

it sims better

idk how

I might see if tiny toxic is better with it now

[runic hinge]

I want all the capstones minus Sudden demise but I can't figure out how to do it and keep blindside

[mystic osprey]

thats what im doing rn

[jade abyss]

Why we waiting on envenom 1s before cast another envenom? (With tier) Maybe a dumb question sorry

[mystic osprey]

only do if you need energy

if you got thistle use

and then you need 100 percent envenom uptime for max damage is why

Tony we need to drop iron wire if we want to do this

[runic hinge]

The build i posted earlier somehow simmed worse and takes all of them with TTB and you have amp

I think dropping iron wire is grief in keys so idk

[runic hinge]

this one

[mystic osprey]

No shrouded suffocation sorta sucks as well as no master assassin

[flint tusk]

Out of interest why don’t you want sudden demise?

[jade abyss]

Okay bcs my brain thinks :why dont wanna proc tier so much as possible

[forest notch]

how should we be playing on council

[mystic osprey]

cleave

our performance on council is how well the tanks position bosses