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theres the first video i saw
cant say no to this
just watch the first 20 seconds of what happens to kazzara
When are you guys using the everbloom trinket during opener ?
with deathmark
wtf is he looking at LMAO
the wall or smthn
idk he was so munted
The ghost
100% there's a ghost
dude theres no way theres a ghost small enough to fit on a wall
or what if ghosts are like shadows
ok i take that back
🔥 💯
he wasnt my cat
All the hair in your pc
just fostered him for a bit
cat: oops i broke the monitor
nah my pc was pretty clean even when i had 5 cats for a time
Since we’re showing off cats this is Ahri, she has 2 extra toes on every foot
its the diffy of having a proper case
Actually titanforged
Big Ole stompies
mine sheds a lot but fractal case too goated
shit is tigher than... smth i cant say publicly
idk that cat was such a pain but he was cute too
Go on..
he'd just slowly etch himself forward on my desk and ontop of my pc

no more arrow turning 😦

Used to live in a house with 11 cats. Computer was never clean
#1 warrior in tbc did that, just saying.
LMAO
was a sight to behold
This one is mine (;
its why assa is the best channel
dont tell anybody
TNS killed smoldy, so we finally have an assa public parse on it

I have an explanation
a good one?
look what these demonic ranged make me do
haha
Man
BURST WINDOW GONE BABY
that looks like it wouldve been a decent pull/kill
Nat and bansherz are still two of the nicest people I've met in wow
You can get sooooo fucked with orb spawns
i just wanna leave when i get 4th orb
weak peaks LMAO
beforei ntermission
those be some good guys 
show yours
I blame it on whoever turned me into a mechagnome before the pull
double on use abuser smh
sry i raid thursdays
although it doesnt look
Doble on use be bangin
that difficult
its not
it kinda plays itself
Or I mean fuck branch
ye from what i saw its kinda
straightforward
just send shit on cd
macro cb/sectec
depends how long your raid wants to play bumper cars with the mythic orbs
I pressed vanish right after sending the first dance and sd while collecting balls
time to blast
thats a lie
mfer would link me his vault
Felt good
Stealthi
cursed hive
ive NEVER seen a person more lucky with trinket RNG from vault than him
@ you with your primordial stone rng
true xD
15% overall cursed damage breakdowns
bansh did unethical things to smolderon btw
Did he?
Lol
cant wait to turn on stream tonight, put on some T swift music while wiping to T swift
On every 2nd Dance+KB sequence(one without Deathmark), if I have 1 charge of Shiv, do I use Shiv-Dance-KB or Dance-KB and then Shiv when it’s needed in KB window?
i wouldve done 298k if we actually killed the boss at the same time as most guilds and not only with 1 tank alive for 20sec
should always have 2 shivs for every kb
bro wtf is twitch
yea your kill was very monka
a league character
I do not use Shiv outside KB?
dust is a very fun talent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
id guess I would have been like 285ish if I didnt have to tony hawk pro skater the damage amp phase
recommended channels are a dota 2 , 2 wow ones, and some chick sleeping, wtf
weird brag but ok
1 before cast and 1 halfway through
in raid? no not really
what is wrong with the world that people stream themselves sleeping
What happened at 3 mins? Ashes proc?
ashes use
Self report big dog
Yeah, and then I do not use one 30 sec after but let both charge for next KB?
looks like a shadow rupture proc as well
i wish this was true cause it would explain why
just proc cheat from world in flames then cloak off debuff, to get branch+ashes at the same time
iw as told
yea hold both charges for every kb
no
its when 2/3 of your raid is dead
i thought it was both

Seli has been lied to
shadow rupture can fucking die
ill call my lawyer
useless ass tier set
ive procced cheat many a times on smolderon no ashes proc

My lawyer is stealthi
Hes still mad at me for not heeding his advice
me dodging legal consequences
we need oxi and stealthi on a really bad suits parody
when i didn't read the document fully
more like you dodging consequence rogues
lol
wait what advice did i give
tbf rae and vel were good consequence rogues
not the guilds fualt they downgraded
Maybe it was oxi idk
i gave him the opportunity he never reached out
thats on him
based
Relating to certain... wage circumstances with my pro Bono work @earnest remnant
I think it was oxi
which stats i should be focusing on ? haste/mastery ?
yeah that was oxi
whatever raidbots tells you, all stats are pretty even
so some might have to gem versa (like me for example), others mastery (likely people without branch)
rn my character really wants vers
vers finger is 1% DPS over crit finger
ofc i cant farm vers finger, im in falls prison
nono

same
doubt that was the weakauras fault tho
northern sky updated their pack with tindral stuff
last night
okay reloe the goat
Is timestrike simming propperly for Nick of Time daggers?
Some guildies said that it’s not completely accurate for some hunter item*
Still 2x Nick is best?
Hunter never accurate unless you pay for the OnlySims

what spells are bugged on sin with aug? on logs
Only several substantial ones DW about it. Rogue op. Nerf now
Good to know. I still rock 2x 463 daggers atm, I am desperate for atleast 1x Nick and hope for Igirl dagger on reclear/Vault
rogue nerf comiing?
Dont tell me that
If ass is nerfed blizz are trolling
it seems some players crying that rogue and dh is meta this season and blizzard want to nerf them
You would want the 2nd one just as much as the first one
was gonna try outlaw rogue guys
WW being dogshit is because they did a shit job tuning, just buff it
"its not warlock and mage meta, pls nerf"
That mythic is still better that that normal that I have atm, I am opting for 2x Nick for sure 🙂
i tried it in keys, doesnt matter
the stats?
ye, just for trying atleast
I did some keys as outlaw, mastery proc was big dam.
Only AOE packs (let's say 8+ minions); do you press Garrote x3 in the opener even tho you overcap CP in order to spread inside Subterfuge window? Maybe a dumb question
sure if you wanna push as outlaw stats will start to matter
idk I just spread my dots and do damage
but like doing keys between 18-20 my stats were completly fine
I play assa since Legion. We werent that good last 2 tiers, they should let us enjoy!
I never cried when we weren’t best, just played with what I have atm. Let us enjoy this
2 keys at max i would say, after that you are in a dangerous spot
Yes
Sword mh
So, from what I understand, I need 2xNick of Time and Branch to rock heavily?
Or axe or whatever
Those should be my main focus?
oh is nick of time anyways
i thought about playing outlaw once, my wrists still hurt
ya
2 nick is best dagger, a few trinkets fuck with the lights on tho
shit bro
Well if you look at the mythic statistics and subtract a decent amount for PI and aug bugs we aint even #1 on that list then
you ok

Play some BDO and tell me about it afterwards
I bought a wrist cushion when I actively grinded back then

do our crits from aug crit buff get counted towards our or aug logs?
On single target, after Deathmark -> Shiv -> Shadow dance + KB, do i always envenon? I find my self at 3 Combo points often here, so do i not fill with an ambush or garrote to go to 5/6 CP?
God I love SD 
Chronic masturbation, outlaw rotation. What's even the difference
severe depression
Playing outlaw wont make you finish
@light jacinth on tindrel

💀
you know outlaw are weird, when you have to tell them to apply poisons 
Opener is all prepull 
bro im so fried from tindral man
i did some brain dead shit last night LMAO
I was asleep for once instead of watching 5 or 6 am stream
Proceed with normal rotation are more words than you would need to just list the rotation 
i had to clip it myself because it was so fkn funny
I hear sleep deprivation is hugely successful for RWF
HAHAHAHA
Lmfao didn't ID post their dh doing that
JPC IS THAT YOU
Think this boss might need a nerf
okay now that is wild
Now insulting nibren 
Viklund just wanted to go on an adventure
When you accepted fate and just stood still lol
yer i mean i could of halted
and tried to fix it but
honestly ive never pressed that button and forgot about it entirely
It feels so bad on opener
eh its fine idk
Ask for stealthis heroic hand-me-down
It feels so bad fixed
i know where they spawn and i just run to two
Boss gets pulled across the room and then the sun is falling on your head 3s later
guys in terms of simming, default for ST and Dungeon Slice for m+ ?
me, when i see an outlaw
I raid with an outlaw main
What can I say
Do you feel my agony?
ingame Outlaw mains are either the biggest #outlaw users in the world
or total bros
no in-bettwen
they are not your friends anymore
Not even friends at that point. I just perpetually gaslight about ironwire
jesus christ they killed us
That's a bait
that is a meme
🎣
Kb is already non hasted
Go sleep go sleep
awwwwwwwwwww
Ticks every 2 seconds
legit didnt knew 
Behold cat
thats a good cat
I mean like it kinnnddddaa is because attack speed will scale it’s damage
But it’s not like it gains extra/hasted ticks
i wonder if the person who wrote that as a troll knew if kb wasn't affected by haste
they just heard pi is good for sin and was like YEAH NO HASTE ON KB
I knew it was bait because 9 is too much of an accurate number for a blizzard employee
pfffft
They only know how to count 1 5 10
and 3
biggest nerf assa could get: "Aug buffs dont count towards your log dmg anymore"
All my homies hate aug
Just wait for the 2% aura nerf together with the bug fixes
everyone your homie or what? Nobody likes aug but aug players
6th december day of decease of assassination rogue. Hope all of you had of fun with this spec
Its assa so, now its done for the next two expansions until the next rework
Its always funny how people are so sure about nerfs and nerf = gutted and unplayable
"fixed an issue where Kingsbane could get parried", unintentionally buffed 
Obviously assa is getting big nerf and will be the worstrogue spec. Same happened in s2
Hope you all enjoy outlaw 😄
It happens every year or two
there is only 2 rogue specs
I dont, hands are too slow
last tier was sub tier not outlaw
how much rng is there in kingsbane?
Last tier started assa tier then subt tier
This tier started assa and will be outlaw tier
no it started sub
a lil bit
Whatever your crit rate is I suppose
and assa got buffed way later on
never forget the time they gutted sub after zul and left it to rot the entire expansion

Started assassination bro
????
First two weeks assassination was the pumper
The zul designer did not appreciate the warcrimes of sub
bro are you mistakign season 2 for seaon 1
Dont you remmber everybody playing assa day 1??
And sub paid for it for 4 years
The amount of wasted braincells and mental gymnastics happening right now is incredible.
no everyone played sub
Its beautiful.
How will the zskarn dev retaliate 
he'll delete his twitter (again)

Now everyone rolled for assa gear and rip assa hahaha i was smart know how blizzard works and went to outlaw
No idea hopefully he has no power or decisions with input ever again
The cycle of life is:
Assa, guud > nerf > play sub > wait 2 years > rework > repeat
The best part was every time that boss got a nerf/buff the spell queuing would change
rip assass?
Blizz must be carefully considering this. Aug hooks and PI cannot be what they balance on.
E en tho assa is just normal
Also windfury
Same
Lots of external gains and misattributed damage rn
And fight profile
If you call that smart
Idk
to be fair i dislike the fight profile now
nerf our peaks bring up our lows
Nah just whiny and a lot of wild guesses
Exactly my point
Either way, wcl is a joke right now and it's not representative of reality
so flatten us out?
Yeh people speculating with no basis.
The usual unproductive chatter
yeah, we are a dot spec, that's kinda what we're meant to be
Actually false
PI gives us about 5.3% extra DPS.
right now on WCL statistics, we're 5% ahead of DH, and about 7.5% ahead of everyone else.
So my question would be, does assassination really justifies a nerf if its leading by 2.5% without PI.
The Aug issue is probably far more substantial on average
(dont forget the aug buff on sanguine blades/spatter)
Thats not really true. Dots are the counterpart to direct damage and have nothing to do with the style of bursting vs sustained damage. But you can be a dot based outlaw if you like 
The fact assa was garbo for thhe past 2 years justifies even the spec being so ahead it starts hitting ff14 bosses
I noticed a very significant logs jump when i told my aug they should be buffing the rogues.
So i think there is a fair % not being attributed properly.
You cant hit 10 millions more to boss and do nearly the same to the adds like assa does comparing to outlaw
That is totally broken
How many fights wouldn't be benefiting from SB and CS
right, but our entire playstyle is maintenance between cooldowns. so why is it that our cooldowns peak so hard and our maintenance does so little. I understand it's all tuning, but thematically, i feel that being a dot based spec we should have more consistent damage overr a whole fight
I mean i run more fights with spatter than i do without.
assa is ahead by quite a lot
Spatter is a large part of sins overall Performance brother
yh i know that
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
btw, kingsbane is not affected by haste AFAIK. there's no extra ticks no matter how much haste.
but you do apply more poison stacks with more haste
I mean what assassin takes a week to kill something 😂
You dont balance purely for ST if you shouldve learned one thing
Raid isnt only St
Thats gotta be fake.
It is
It makes no sense on both kb as well as pet scaling
Yeah, written by someone who didn't know Kingsbane already isn't affected by haste I guess.
And pet scaling isn't a bug.
Its now a feature.
It was a bug that they decided to keep.
Never trust anyone linking a discord post and not the original source
Basic fact checking
Not to mention pet damage scaling was something they'd fixed a while back
but pi makes sin do big damage and i hate them, so it must be the haste on kingsbane
lil bro got baited by inspect element edit 
I called Ian and he said he is not going to nerf, in fact he is going to give us exsanuinste back
how is sin doing in keys this SS? better than outlaw?
We know this is fake because its Ion xD
hey guys wanted to ask does 4pc do respectable damage now after it got buffed? whispyr said it did pitiful dmg on PTR so was wondering
Forgot what it was,media volume was high
Depends on you.
nah bro sin is the worst spec in the game literally bottom dps
u ok?
ok
no im really upset by the assassination nerfs
i mean more for aoe purposes on m+, seems like solid burst damage on packs that dont last long, if it does damage
Hey guys, need to confirm some stuff. So we use shadowdance because Kingsbane and improved garrote snapshots during dance right?
I mean DM stacks on top of your maintenance and KB profits from your maintenance and adds more maintenance in that window. Also sin doesnt even have the worst drop between cds
don't troll new people
I'm new
As new as a dusty book
yes
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
that's no reason to troll people either though
the explosion does about 7% of my damage in keys, not accounting for how much of it gets spattered
@balmy condor idk how relevant keeping afenar in there is when it hasn't been updated since July - might as well just put ur afenar edit further up at the top instead?
oh thats pretty good then
fair
!update
Updated.
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

Ur so helpful kieron
https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/DAOFVVFRRFRRQmJBQCURNVUVVVUJQEEiUUBF Hello guys, can any1 tell me how to play Shiv with this build?
is it still around Kingsbane? or only for bleeds?
press it before dance / kb, and then press it in the middle of kb
When did you start maining Rogue anyway, weren't you a shammy main all of SL?
I want this sampled into a banger song
Hey all. Flame how bad this talent build is please? I just tried it, and it was really nice. it was on 17 Everbloom, but felt the ST damage was a lot higher, and AOE was absolutely fine. Im 464 ilvl
wait
who are you
so you're not from the hidden boots gang ?
Just check our shared servers xD
Huh, fair enough.
Does shadowdance snapshot our dots? Is that why we use it?
Yes
ngl i expected more panic
because when destro lock got giga nerfed in s3 SL, I posted one that said nerf was reverted but rain of fire is now a 3 second cast
and i broke the warlock discord
had to turn off dms
we are smort
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
nerfs is like playing Bingo
a lot more fotm destro rerollers
i mean assa is getting nerfed and you know it
in s3 shadowlands
yeah but not by 9%
Someone with a copy paste for simming consumables?
the hunter nerf is funny because the pet scaling thing was a bug initially
it still is 😉
Yeah, I think that is the point. We know its coming. Just a matter of how much. Could have been more believable if you didn't talk about KB haste as well when its already not hasted.
hunter nerf made no sense considering they literally just clarified that they want it to work that way
i call it failling upwards
I see that most people play Caustic Spatter over Internal Bleeding on raid fights like Igira and Larodar, where I would think the cleave damage would be very brief and barely noticable. Is Caustic Spatter better than I think or is Internal Bleeding worse?
idk not a rouge
your raid needs to put spears closer to boss
spatter damage is v big when timed with kb on adds
please mate don't trigger me
good bugs are just features you got blessed with \o/
I can't handle it
It's more like they die in 3-4 seconds
if they're dying that fast I'd just run ib tbh
depends on your raid comp and what people do
Yeah makes sense
!up
ib isnt a ton of damage
you can just send caustic spatter on the entire raid and be fine probably
I’d never drop spatter for ib unless it’s pure ST
nah mate you spread out all 6 spears to enable the melee to have some downtime running between each one and hitting it individually
I'm running ib on igira until my raid starts placing spears close enough for me to spatter more than one
cus right now they aint
Im running acro over tea, shame
Gonna try spatter next raid, see if it does better than ib
!dagger
that was my spatter on igira H
Only ever played assa once in raid and this was my IB damage on igira, so it looks like spatter does slightly better, %-wise. thanks for the data!
I tend to forget to switch ot IB after trash where I use Spatter.
I am a spatter fanboy, i love it
great ability for lazy ppl
Blade Flurry > Caustic Spatter though, just saying
another one has breached containment
yeah but blade flurry requires something i'm unwilling to do
it will be even more valid after the incomin nerf of doom
has anything actually been announced or just nervous expectation?
What do u do when ur dots finish on a pull and mobs are 50%hp (for example)? U redot all u can?
loser take
this is the closest thing to an announcement "we’re planning to send an additional batch of tuning changes that will be released during restarts on the week of December 5th, which will probably include some buffs and some nerfs"
i agree with him until they rename it into Splatter
Spatter is a stupid word
its not splatter?
honestly, im living my own world
so its splatter
for me
idc
based
look at the logs - we are (too) good and everybody knows it.
i mean
or i focus a main target and hit the other only with spatter?
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
I play spatter on Igira and just have people slam the spears pretty much on the boss
good thing blizz has internal numbers for that
I don't believe in the internal numbers argument
Any nerfs will be pinned
Please do not blindly doom over whispers of nonexistent nerfs or get baited by fake screenshots.
If/When we get an official blue post about any assassination changes they will be pinned quickly. Until then please try your best to resist the urge to cry about stuff that could, possibly, in the future, maybe exist. It’s unnecessary, thanks
Edit1: Fixed an issue that caused Envenom's buff to persist beyond its intended duration when used with fewer than 5 combo points.. Bug fix, disregard
do u think they balance off of 3rd party metrics
God hath spoken 
how else lol
nope, I don't think so. But the sampel they are getting now from may raids etc
outweight all teh sims they can do internally
they have their numbres ofc but it is a limited
range of scenarios etc
you do know that wcl gets their data from blizz right
/combatlog is an ingame supported command fyi. i think they have the sample size
Delete aug
It’s true my uncles pet donkey works for blizzard
pics or its false
He told me they have secret internal simulations that rival nasa’s super computer
guys how can i find single target ass rogue??
You’ll all see
hey, that donkey is my uncle!
OMG we're related cos the donkey is my brother
Assa still has 4/5 things that still dont contribute to aug in logs
🫂
How does one begin to answer this...
random, but yes, i agree
can confirm, used that pc too download cat memes
Anyone wanna doom and gloom about things that could potentially, maybe happen but we're still uncertain since it hasnt been confirmed yet?
If tryan confirmed that it must be true
honestly, i have been tempted to make a fake nerf page, but then i considered it wouldn't be a good idea
guys noob question, so using Deathmark I get we want to get an empowered garrote going, but do we need to renew rupture etc, or just ensure the buff is maintained. I guess what I am saying is does the talent just duplicate the current dots or does it snapshot multiple bleeds? I currently am just pre casting an empowered garrote and rupture.
but it would be funny
dm is dynamic
no snapshot
I posted fake nerf page on guild discord and they spend good 15min to looking for it at official source
I can tell you than any other spec than rogue can't wait for nerf go live
there are only 2-3 snapshot mechanics in the entire game (and hopefully 0 some day)
so just maintain bleeds and align with empowered garrote? No need to overclip?
Hi guys, any idea why with Ceverion's plater profil there is a gap between rapture and the two other dot plz 🙂 ?
like, man its so obvious bait, how do people not notice it lol
yes ofc, they add proper bm pet weapon dmg conversion, and then remove it 3weeks later with no other changes, sure 
i have mixed feelings, i think in a limited form it can be pretty interesting mechanic
Our BM hunter is pretty good player but he don't take my jokes about difficulty of his spec lightly
And he literally think that assa is 3 button spec too until he looked at my opener
Meanwhile bm is 3 button spec
Yeah that was the point
so quick question, sorry new guy to rouge all around, iv been lookin at the guides, still not sure here, how after the opener for AoE are we just funneling damage into 1 but spalshing it to others with splater and keeping up CT? ofc dotting who we can with Gro+Rup. up to the point DM comes back up just like ST?
difficulty talk is always cringe
idc how hard or easy your spec is
if you fuck up mechanics and we wipe, fix it lol
Difficulty is based around you mostly
True
What do u do when some adds appear and they gonna die soon? crimson tempest is the option?
I tend to ignore lava on lorador opener which get me in trouble some times
Since ct does not do the initial damage anymore I don't think so but maybe I'm wrong
might be a visual clarity thing
Can you tell me more plz
Bc on wago screeshot, there is no such things
oh so its not a baseline thing?
pretty much yeah
I dont use that profile so I have no idea
Doesnt seems like baseline based on wago screenshot of the profil
can you link the profile
ok cheers just wanted to see if my mindset was correct, currently just a skill issue atm. ty for the reply.
I personally wouldn't mind rupture being a little to the side since it interacts with other talents, but on the other hand it is a little jarring to see 2 dots one side and 1 on the other
maybe amp poison is supposed to be there?
apply amp poison, check if its still not showing anything
if thats the case than we found the problem
the solution needs to come from someone smarter
no idea what that is, but well done fixing it
Any idea how to sort aura position ?
Bc now, debuff are all over the place
I would like X to b 1st, Y to be 2nd, Z to be 3rd
You can customise plater, play with it to your liking
Most of it should be in the scripts iirc
I read whispyrs post and saw a pin, got scared - only to open the pin and realize it was the same post 😌
why did people start the dooming all of a sudden anyways
what triggered this "assa getting nerfed to the ground" momentum
that everyone wants to talk about it
We're doing really well, easy to look at the top
so doing well results in people being depressed and crying before anything happens?
Do you guys have different key binds for ambush and mutilate? Sometimes during opener my bar goes back to mutilate and it doesn’t register
Well yeah, because they're worried our spec will get nerfed before they get to engage in the actually difficult content
still using my ambush keybind, mutilate is still on my stealth bar, so yep
But you guys have experienced this too right? Pressing it to generate cp for slice n dice
Is waiting to change back bad? Feels like I’m losing gcd
Aight back to my old keybind lol
i cant press mutilate when i get a blindside proc, i have to press my ambush keybind
it just doesnt fit in my head
that i can press the same button with a proc
Annoying interaction but that's how it works
Losing 1gcd at the start of the fight is super minimal, yeah it's awkward but absolutely trivial when you take in the big picture. This isn't ffxiv where bad clippling gcds can ruin a fight
I mean there is a macro possible to fix that. It's something like
/use [form:1]Ambush; Mutilate or /use [form:2]Ambush; Mutilate or... something like that. Don't remember exactly.
Stance instead of form
Nope.
For me form works.
Same with this. /use [noform,nocombat]Stealth; [form:2,nocombat]Stealth; [form:1,nocombat]Shroud of Concealment; [combat]Vanish
That is the most cursed binding i've ever seen but i dont know why
i love all the assa haters while assa isnt ahead AT ALL in rwf where all the people actually have same gear kekw
Sorry, meant to put a question mark
they are not haters, they are just jealous that the yellow bar finally appears in details
nvm they are haters
both
My friend wants it in the ground because their spec is mid table, but they're getting the legendary so idk
Like in 2 months we're gonna see 2h strength users go crazy
You mean the stealth macro? it's actually super comfy. I have everything under 1 button so don't have to bother with different bindings for shroud or vanish.
Don't ask about mod alt mod macros on everything
!dagger
Yeah, I can't imagine binding actual cooldowns to the same button that i often spam for no real reason. The idea of wasting vanish because i tried to stealth before i got out of combat doesn't sit right with me
which of the dagger buffs do we actually wanna use? i've just been sat with dragonkin
that one or beast
beastgang
I use the same form macro for Ambush/Mut, but still have the problem during the 1st Mut after Rupture in opener where its delayed press until after Subterf has definitely dropped
Think I need to bring back the Mutilate keybind
you dont need a macro for that anymore tho
you do if ytou want a single button that is ambush in stealth / muti out of stealth
and then ambush when blindside procs
No
blindside proc changes mut to ambush
You cannot cast mutilate when blindside is up
Wait, it's not an active you use on cooldown during fights?
just place ambush on your stealth bar isntead of mut
dont you guys have stealthbars
Just put ambush on your stealth bar
I don't use a stealth bar, Mutilate stays as Mutilate during stealth otherwise
you are a smart elvui enjoyer
no, just use it and the buff is permanent until you use it on something else
Lol, i had no idea. It seemed like a shit weapon , now i know why
If I see a 1 min cooldown, I just assume it's supposed to be used in combat
should be 5 min like the legendary, the effect is just that good
It's a neat flavour effect
Can we summon realz to protect us from a nerf, at least until everyone gets gear and we see the real numbers
it was a joke xD
ik realz cant do much about it, its probably not his job to tune classes
remove pi, remove wft, and remove aug and we're middle of the pack
is aug not working correctly with us? is their damage being attributed to us?
About 1-2% on singletarget and significantly more on aoe yes
but like 13.1% from pi, 7-9% from wft - tune for those externals, and without em, where is assassination at?
wft isnt an external
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It's a buff that sometimes doesn't exist, provided by an external source.
call it what you want, this isn't about semantics
welcome being the new external targets 😉
nobody has ever thought of it as an external
A good Video about Aug and how it is (not) working atm
its why i am glad demeo no longer is it
so is warrior buff an external
What are hooks?
I mean, unholy and demo have been like that quite often
Is it a buff provided by an external source, that the rogue doesn't always have access to?
point is. nobody looks at wft
call it what you want bro - not trying to argue semantics
youre counting wft when you shouldnt
Unholy still is, but its also undertuned as hell, at least demo is good.
!logs
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when you do sims you sim without PI and with WFT
(this message probably should get changed, wowanalyzer is not up to date yet afaik
are you new to wow or what
Like Unholy got so screwed, in the sense that they made it a worse PI target..but its still a PI target
it has been like this since WFT was reintroduced
Why are you trying to argue with me? I've already said wft is a buff provided by an external source, that isn't always available to the rogue.
And no, i'm not new to wow.
Like what did i say that's wrong there?
go ahead, cry to not get nerfed
I'm not crying. I'm not new to wow. I'm not dumb.
coping
You’re both correct, who cares if its an external or a raid buff
mom dad stop fighting. 😭
But keep it up i guess
same thought pretty much 
Its a buff in general, and there are ways to measure it.
I'm not "fighting" i'm just talking - and taking these wild accusations because the dude wants to argue semantics I think.
this isnt about semantics
holy shit
you didnt understand why i was saying what i was saying
cause you couldnt read past the first sentence
yea youre dumb
No, I just didn't care what you were saying.
ok i'm dumb then.
keep calling me names
My braincells are dying.
Who's fighting?
I made a statement, and got called like 3 names lol...
There's nothing to fight about.
i called you dumb
thats the only thing i said
and by what you typed, for me, youre dumb

Seems like it.
ye, one or 2 times a day
Do both of you need to be put in a rubber room together to hash* this out or you guys good to brush it off your shoulders and move on?
but i take it over dooming
?
What did i do other than make a factual statement then get called names and stuff lol
people can have disagreements online
buddy
wow sorry i called you dumb
you seems very sensitive
need anything?
I'm not sensitive, I'm not dumb, i'm not "new to wow", and i'm not crying lol
ok take it in dms this is class spec and your topic is people not the spec atm.
Good morning friends! 🙂
Mornings
morning mate,
^ so true
How’s everyone doing this morning/evening
take this to dms. this is a class spec discord
eh not bad just chillin tbh. hope all is good for you my man.
take this to dms. this is a class spec discord
🤣
im over the child
real mature
cant take 1 joke
this channel used to be more fun before it was full of fotm 😭
I’m sorry who are you? I’m asking how people are doing. Go away.
guy has "sub" in his description dont be bothered bro
im more of an assa main than y'all probably are
Can someone review my log. Real quick?
ignore him hes been fighting with anyone he can, all u gotta do is scroll up to se lol.
the leafs are grouping against me :(((((((
Didn’t have to scroll far. Haha
true
yezzir
he is a bum
would just send it in here and see about getting replies, if you dont get any than there arent any good log review guys online yet
Good to hear your doing well. Can’t wait to go home and play some more. I just got back to wow and didn’t know sin was in a good spot. I was sadly losing my mind learning unholy dk. Worst decision ever… lol
So the idea for max kb is stealth, garote, ambush, mutilate/ambush, slice and dice, 4+ combo, envenom, shiv, deathmark, kb, keep envenom up, shadow dance refresh garrote, keep rupture up, drink tea at 6> sec of kb, vanish at 3 sec?
Sin feels great, hope you have fun!
Shadow dance before kb
too much text, wowhead has it all covered, if you had envenom/shiv up through the whole kb, tea for last 6 sec, vanish for last 3, you fine
DM > shiv > sd > kb
I honestly haven’t had this much fun playing sin since legion! Brings back a lot of good times !
better enjoy sin for a week now before dense blizzard people nerf it to the ground because they dont understand why theyre so high in statistics currently
Ahhhh so that's where I duck up
right on, i just moved off pali, never played rouge started like 24h ago or so, fun learning curve but fun.
also you kinda forgot to press rupture in opener
you press garrote ambush ambush
that seems weird
No I messed up in text
either typo or you building for 9 cp
It's rupture at 6 xp
Mmmmm, 9 cp
ya
🤣
I would say the hardest part is that opener… lol rest is just managing shit lol
Once you get used to it you kinda just breeze past it 😂
ye well make sure you press dance before kb
even the opener gets easier because you sort of repeat it every minute
yap
Its better than our original 26 button opener
Does sd give something before kb?
Don’t even care. I haven’t had fun playing sin like this for awhile. #sinlife.
Nightstalker
you can also get notters wa for kb, that lights up for when to use tea/shiv/vanish
snapshot nightstalker
10% damage i think?
5%
Is this fake News? A guildie posted it
Aight, almost there then. ❤️
Yea true I actually use mrt with my keybinds for the opener so I don’t need to bring up the webpage every time haha
yes, fake
Fake
read the hunter part
Mrt?
kingsbane was never hasted
does that answer your question?
The raid notes addon
read the pins
Oh, hmm
I have 0 knowledge of hunter so i didnt read that part anyways
i wish it was
oh well, than what tryan said
!dagger
lmao that would be absolutely savage
Gotta love the doomers lol
i mean there is likely to be adjustments, but until something official appears, no use speculating
everything will be fine
hello there , wanted to ask a question about pooling energy on our downtime. Is it a big loss to just generate combo points and spamming envenom for the 4set or should I pool more for sanguine blades? ( doing both*)
pooling for sanguine is pointless. spamming envenom is no benefit over not spamming it
due to the way energy and combo points work, if you don't cap on energy you don't miss casts
thanks a lot dude!
to think about
whats that
i just never think at all
sanguine

Theres a section about pooling on wowhead guide
if you are managing to keep the envenom chain up while still being above 150 energy, thats good. if not, you sacrifice the energy first... but dont disregard energy completely
Oh I need to look into this! I such ass at pooling
take a smoke break when you have no energy
!fuu
ya im finding that the opener i have down both in ST & AoE it's after the fact for me is it normal to drop down alot of Dps after your ramp up in burst. I mean it's logical but how much is ok ya lol.
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
that will get you used to pooling
Are people generally running arterial shock or utilatarian in m+?
Ive been doing hybriud, is shock a better default option for M+?
struggling to get the opener down consistently for AoE particularly without acrobatic strikes - I guess just practice
hybrid kinda helps on bosses with the free ambush procs for me
and aoe shiv for bursting packs seems to work well
the opener in aoe is spread bleeds, find the biggest mf, press sd and kb
in a real world scenario, AP Shock will most likely perform better than a full DTB caustic cleave build, since you are more vulnerable to timings and reliant to big cleave down targets
I feel you. Wish dps meters weren’t a thing haha a
you can turn it off tho 
with AP you can just play the dot angle and do damage more easily
i play details off for a reasoN!
Does anyone know with AoE are we just fully replacing Muti with FoK, only to apply Splatter with Muti? or once we poped our KB and other CD's do we focus on our basic ST with muti to burst out cleave with splatter as well keeping up CT?
single target build with IC/ironwire just felt best for me this week
fok in 3+ targets if i remember correctly
and muti/ambush to keep spatter up
yep it was great for this week
your finisher is envenom, CT only to keep the dot up









