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That doesnt sound right
Its more like 2%+
ah+
is 2 piece already big ?
sitting on 447 myself
I'm shook.. it's actually favoring helmet as an off-piece over the trinket
Man we had such shit loot tonight
there ingame chat comms for rogues o.o ?
i could not check vault yet, currently at work 
To be honest, I think I'm going to hard pass on the helmet from vault atm. I have a free token from 2k anyway to collect later.
Well because your head seems to be shit
Man I never had any complaints D:
Jokes.. yeah my head is a bit shit.
Idk I’m gonna be playing a bit of everything
i guess the hybrid one has worse st
as build seems very bonkers to me
A bit of the build I posted aswell?

Would you guys grab 4p immediately or try to get a hero track item first before catalyze
what build u posted
Fuck no
i gues 4 piece first
depends
u can get it this week via raiding? u need to rush 4p asap?
I grabbed a tier chest piece over some heroic thing because I feel like 4 set is big
no raid tier loot for u then
I already raided for the week. Have champ gloves, but need to farm +17 fall anyway for nick and trink
i think 4set is big. specially in kb window
is 2set also big btw ? i see only extra attackspeed and i gues nature dmg ? but is it worth it ?
i though the chest make u 4p
I got 4-set on Wednesday and then when we did 2 more bosses yesterday more rogue tier dropped on HC and I was the only one on the token. I've been disgustingly lucky lol
2p was almost as big of an upgrade as branch for me
idk i would priorize upgradable 489 pieces over hc tier tbh xD
yes
OK
Tier dropped from every boss tonight and every piece was the mage, hunter, druid piece lmao
bonkers
its better than it looks
i cleaned full nm and hc with 2 splits, 4 bosses on mythic and im still 2p
🙂
No
no lol xD
They havent even killed tindral
imagine running 13 x +7-10 keys last week and u get 12x gold and 1 time gloves that u already wear 
max is 7/9
Nvm, Liquid got it down after reset gear
im excited to see my vault
WoWProgress.com - Mythic Progress, Detailed History of Guilds and Characters, PvE Progression, Recruitment
not showing it here
And like that?

wtf is that
What isn't showing
its 
Why do you keep insisting on not taking 2 shiv charges
9/9
Are you allergic
Is ultitarian best build then?
Nobody said 9/9 tho
I dunno what I'd drop for that tbf
not showing fyrak kill bro
???
they killed all except fyrak
Nobody said there was one
dude
And one shiv aint that bad 
It’s pretty bad
Detailed history for Liquid, US-Illidan: rankings, mythic plus progress, boss kill history, player rotation
It kinda is 
How are you taking arterial and dont Take two shiv charges
oh i though he mean fyrak xd
Yeah, I corrected myself?
Read both messages lol
.
8 ilvls on average higher. Meaning they recleared, vault and maybe one or two HC runs?
They need to give me 1 more point

so no one killed fyrakk yet
Correct
no
Tswift was just downed like 2 hours ago or something
raid needs to be harder
ryan what's ur progress
Liquid hid their logs it looks like.
Cant make up my mind, craft wrist or belt
hey i need some help... i am only pulling at max 150k dps. I feel like i am very low. I can say i dont know what the problem is but i suspect stats issues.... i have been getting stat weights and realized i am doing 1 boss ST patchwork. can someone help me get much higher dps in M+
Because warcraftlogs isn't showing pulls etc...
Link some logs.
Don't most rwf ones do that
pretty sure its not stats
it never is
got the legs yet again, but it rolled leech lol
guaranteed leech on those
i dont have dungeon logs but i have raid logs
As in not even warcraftlogs shows the pulls it took. They hide the full logs but allow warcraftlogs to see the pulls etc..
look at the amount
Ship them
it rolled leech on top of the guaranteed leech
2 set pieces and BiS trinket "ok"
iuf not stats then what... this is getting brutal cause i feel like i am a high tier player but i am pulling like m+ 18 damage
483 shoudlers are huge man lmfao
not bis and i get 4p from heroic
Not sure if you were flexing or not. But either way - Your DPS is going to be affected by the kill time.
i am talking about m+
u're a high tier player?
The one key you have in there though is a 12. I barely did any damage until I started doing like 17s - 19s
yeah lets troll
what does that mean

shit
what build you using
Because shit died way too quick for any semblance of ramp.
aoe build for m+
which one
Hybrid AoE one
keep linking gnarlroot logs 
hybrid or arterial shock?
whats ur ilvl
im 465 tho
use arterial shock
ill senbd build
Sounds like cap
ty
Unless you're a DH lmao
yea
this was my last dungeon
Details!: Overall Damage Done for -- x -- x -- [21:37 EF]
- Desani .......... 290.65M (224.1k, 33.1%)
- Skraizz .......... 219.85M (169.5k, 25.0%)
- Roslyuh ........ 173.51M (133.8k, 19.8%)
- Kirikomain .... 168.32M (129.8k, 19.2%)
- Foestriker ...... 25.94M (20.0k, 3.0%)
What level key?
its a deplete
I'm apparently doing something seriously wrong or need some massive pulls
and is kinda low
489 pips
And what key?
vs 483 sandglass
yeah right
21-22
what do you mean yeah right
BMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQSkkIBAAAAAAItkItkAAAAAAAtWSCSgkkSKBRkEJJJJRpViEA @feral pelican
well BiS or rly rly rly good trinket
just a saying dont mean anything
on assa all trinkets are insane and rly close together ^^
??
just be happy with a trinket all people in the raid want 😄
how are trinkets close together on assa
literally the largest trinket disparity ive seen in multiple expansions
Yo, thoughts on vault?
Got branch and heroic signet. Hero helmet has socket but I don't think it's the play. Could get mirror but not sure of how it fares vs the trinkets I already have/a sandglass I could farm
Gloves could be the play but they drop fairly early in the raid
than my 470 m+ trinket
i mean the 2. "passive" trinket are all rly close togethaaaa
bruh
Mirror is awful
thats sorta nice
hero helm with socket is your best bet most likely
At least both your tier are 483 and usable 
might be a socket angle for me
over mythic tier?
yeah
brutal
hc tier goes to 483
6 ilvls on chest vs socket ig
Maybe 
there's a universe in which i might play sub so i was wondering
whats a good sustained rotation on cds and abilities in the duingeon? like i have the opener down but find myself not using Deathmark (cause i dont reallyu know if it only hits 1 target or not) and not using KB and stuff..... i end up just garrote from stealth and stack ruptures..... then spatter and fan envenom
I stand corrected. It's good for AoE but the AD trinket is better for ST
30 runs worth after all
^
anyone knows how hard galakronds fall is this week?
Fellas
nope need a second one
was pretty easy last week
so what do you think... thats my overall
We procced 
im in a key rn
the fire salvo from the third boss in everbloom, it looks like aoe but its all single fireballs she throws at people. Can u feint it?
i also play arterial not hybrid
your rupture damage is probs too high
I can assure you it had nothing to do with your 30 runs 
your caustic spatter should be higher
make sure you get caustic spatter up before you kingsbane
so pretty much what you do is
divine internevntion 
no i have the new 4piece
key level?
cries in 80 keys complete week 1
and ring take in vault
80 Fall or 80 keys
ok yeah you need to be picking priority targets with kingsbane
get bleeds up in opener and then do kingsbane rotation on highest hp mob
80 keys, 22 falls
Spread garrote, spread rupture, slice and dice,mutilate, envenom, shiv, deathmark, shadow dance, kingsbane, garrote, refresh shiv when needed, fan of knives and envenom, thistle on 6 seconds of kingsbane, vanish on 3 and spread garrote again. Maintain rupture and garrote as much as possible, keep caustic spatter up and use combo points on envenom
@feral pelican
I did like 120 and 24 Falls. Will prolly get shit
and crimson tempest after you finished doing your shit
with kingsbane
if you needa do your rotation quicker
actually nvm idk if that works on mythic
so i must not understand the complexity of KB and why its so important. this thistle at 6sec and vanish at 3 and garrote....
tea at 6 seconds is so the last ticks of KB damage have the mastery buff
3 garrotes, fan rupture like 2/3 times, find large mob and mutilate for spatter, snd, send all of the burst. CT at some point during that
das it
the vanish is so that master assassin buffs the last 2 ticks of kingsbane
yeah
kingsbane is core of super dumb burst damage
along with improved garrote
the tea at 6 and vanish at 3 are NOT THAT IMPORTANT in keys
^
still help
i usually save vanish
Unless... Stuff just dead after you mutilated the Mob 
yeah can do that
to have more aoe damage on later packs
most packs are going to die before the end of your KB anyways
depends on pulls
there's no point in trying to min/max a vanish in there
just make sure you keep up caustic spatter with kingsbane
vanish is much more useful for spreading garrotes during chain pulls
and silencing caster packs
do we still finish on 4+ combo points when envenom chaining?
and dodging mechanics
depends on the situation
then it doesn't matter wtf you do bc you're 3 chesting that key anyway lol
it doesn't matter
finish on 4+ or 5+
makes no difference
it's completely preference
me personally I use a no envenom build 🗿
Fun isnt about 3 chesting
its about the big numbers 
OK EVERYONE, ty forr the help
you need to do big keys to do big numbers on this spec lol
I WILL TRY TO PUT IT INTO PRACTICE
Cant decide what to choose, got 0 tier. got branch
ty
Did you try no rupture? 
most important thing for burst i found is spreading your dots and garrotes properly and always keeping up caustic spatter asap
and use crimson tempest at the end
for a lil bit of more dmg
especially on big packs
you want tempest and spatter up asap
I thought that was standard now?
you can put up crimson tempest up earlier
but not before ruptures and garrotes
when I watched it was like tempest at the end of all the important shit like getting envenom up kingsbane and spatter
but might change because shit dies too quick right?>
i normally tempest on the first finisher in my dance
^

i'll tempest during kingsbane as long as envenom isn't gonna drop
as long as i have a long envenom going into it
soemtiems i just drop env
idc
that shit isn't going to make or break a key
blackjack blinds
so you go shiv, dance + kb, garrote then ct?
kidneys
i mean its irrelevant, you're getting a mechanic during kingsbane anyway
I just did a 22 throne and not a single KB finished it's duration on a trash pack
so like
don't worry about min-maxing those
yeah it's pretty chill
wtf is that last boss
it's a little tougher
same fundamentals tho
little more healer pressure
u don't really get to use cloak to clear spiders
gotta use it on wracking pain
i was using cloak to dodge wracking pain
but then clearing spiders
if i got targeted anyway
but like i dont think that was the boss they should have buffed in atal dazar
just make rezan a boss again and not the geriatric t rex he's turned into
the last boss in ark
what build good this week arterial or hyb ?
hey all, would you guys grab the hero tier legs or the hero tier necklace? i currently have no tier, but also have a hero chest to catalyst, and the 2000 io thingy waiting.
sim
fo sho
if you want 2 piece you should grab the legs though
depends on what sim says though
why is our bis rings don't have mastery?
is that because we have too many already
on bis gear list
is the Bis list on wowhead accurate?
Because they sim better in that template
but that template is where we wanna land eventually anyways right
because witherbark's branch devalues mastery a lot
if you want the reason that other stats sim better on the rings
you are taking in consideration he plays hybrid instead arterial right?
you know that arterial build makes bleed damage go up versus hybrid
his rupture damage is fine
ah okay, so when Mastery value is mentioned in general stat priority, Branch trinket isn't taken into account
I might not be used to mobs lasting loing enough for rupture to do damage
Helo guys. I m newbie on assas rogue. I have a problem with energy menagement. Im almost have an issue with low energy in regular rotation. And always entering Kingsbane and sod with <50 energy. Is there a any trick?
yea
dont waste any energy before going kingsbane
bleh what shit
https://i.imgur.com/aKbgx5J.png
send a log of ur dmg spread of details
Am i just need to wait for get regen for energy till get burst
Even it takes 10 sec
yea
Okey mate thanks
Got it thanks a lot
np
How is Assa performing in dungeons with 4pc? Can it compete with the other specs?
normally u dont wanna use envenom till u reach high energy
when big pulls its better than outlaw
everbloom is a good example
Even in filler?
hey, coming back to rogue after a long time. got used to stealth/non-stealth bars with similar abilities in each slot e.g. 1 = mutilate or ambush (in stealth), 2 = rupture or garrote (in stealth), etc. Now in assa I can garrote outside of stealth too, and blindside grants free ambushes outside of stealth. Any clean ways to bind in this respect? Thx
the bigger the key, the better assa becomes
easy chest or helm for mythic tier
not in filler
mutilate turns into ambush with blindside
garrotte is a rotational ability, don't think if it like rupture
you have to take in mind if you have tea usages or not
my mutilate still appears as mutilate despite having the talent?
ah
if you already wasted your deathmark and u dont have dance+kingsbane (is coming out in like 15 sec) then you dont press envenom before reaching like 200 energy atleast
I feel like Outlaw falls off on ST and Assa is more consistent, so thinking about trying that for dungeons, but unsure about their AoE.
I don't see the Rotation guides mentioning swapping targets to apply dots. Do we just rely on Indiscriminate Carnage to spread?
So my question is: if we have dots on main and the spreads with Indiscriminate do we prio envenom over spreading dots to targets without?
@river nexus
Maybe Outlaw is only inconsistent because i don't 4pc yet..
not necessarily true
you want to be chaining your envenoms
@blazing jewel what build do you use in m+ btw? 
like your energy is going to fall too low and then you'll restart your chains after waiting
Got it bro
but you shouldn't be using mutilate and then waiting *without purpose
Thx a lot
share a m+ log
or I can share the video that whispyr describes how to pool?
you press envenom here (when u reach like 240 energy)
hybrid
if you have 4 piece you chain envenoms until you're out of energy
and then you go back to 240
if you have 2p/0p you can play the same way honestly
^
you just don't get rewarded for it
How much do you do at bosses without amps on 20s? 
idk man lol
last week I ended 300k+ in pretty much every key but not sure how much it was to bosses
not having high energy while using ur cds is trolling imo
mf's looking at m+ dps numbers
depends what cds I had when we pulled
but up to u guys xD
meanwhile im sitting here "oh boss dies, neat"
yeah you don't dump all of your energy when kb is about to come off cd lol
this with ilvl 460(upgradeable) worth taking from vault? I have there bunch of 480s but its things like wrists, waist and head(which I could make tier but I dont have even 1/4 yet...) my trinkets are still420 tho...
unless you have tea ig
No
Really gotta sim through the ST of all the builds. Kinda got 2 aoe blasters in my group
I went for Branch like 10 times and never dropped 😦
Go again:)
thank you 🙂
Don't worry I'm on 30+ on fall, no dagger yet
just go raid build with spatter
fuck it
480 helm -> mythic track tier is wonderful future planning
so I guess taking 480 head for tier piece is better choice right ?
I wish I had the neck in vault you had there 😄
if you all dont play the most optimal setup for each key at the exact keystone level
why live
RAIDERIO SCORE IS THE PRIZE
imagine taking iron wire when ttk is a slight dps upgrade
Honestly I did something along the lines and it wasnt too bad on the smaller pull dungeons 
how the fuck do you kill first boss Throne of tides?
with dps
Just bring Boss HP to 0
cant feint it
Cant imagine it being that bad
Whats your gear and the keystone level?
470, 22
deathmark?
with deathmark
dm
ok
just macro it in
ty
are you playing hybrid build for tyrannical?
just playing rogus as an alt and stuff, but is it terrible to do waist + boots
over wrists + boots
for emblishedment
and if so, how big difference would it make with max gear
i went for dagger 40x now, and refuse too do more at this point (ofc no drop)
if it drops in vault, cool, will not set another foot into that shit dungeon again
you will get it trust
@left meadow don't think so. You're stronger now by going waist but it'll be replaced down the line when minmaxing through vault. wrists wont be replaced
yea I was there multiple times too...my drop ratio is 1 item in 10 M+ dungeons(I am not joking...)
Do double cruel daggers give double buffs?
@left meadow is how I understand it anyway
Does it even matter if you get the buffs 2 times 
Is there a YouTube video that goes in depth on the m+ aoe rotation?
Its mostly about stats and statbudget
They’re unique equipped
Check out whispyr’s aoe video
You mean crafts?
Yeah, like generally
Thx
is sophic devotion okay for raid?
Ah yes ty
or wafting is better
Wrist for sin with patch. Its what you want in the end and you got a safe item to socket if you have a trash vault
on the io
@grim jay yeah that's smart
Rip
it's good to but not a massive gain
i almost always do
unless it'll drop envenom
Yeah I just hit 2100, got 6 more keys to visit before pushing higher
I’m a slow poke
i nkow that's why i'm pushin
gotta get in the top 10 world before everyone finishes their splits and tuesday raids and their "being european"
Getting hyped for maximum despair watching the good vaults
zacassination is back
Zac just finally realized whats good for him

Zacsination
I got bored in raid yesterday
WTF dude report 😄
Did the 4pc get nerfed or is the tooltip on Wowhead old? I see the envenom damage boost to a single target only being 30% on live
what do i have to do bro ... i didnt get a single trinket
best vault in my life idk
which tierpieces have prio?
all except legs?
I can make 4-set today thats why im asking
Did 120 and full raid clear. I have my trinkets

Just gotta be lucky
You can play offset legs or offset chest
wdym 120
do you have a life
Hi, I'm trying out assassination and because of one talent I can't remember the name (sanguine blades maybe ?) I know the bleeds deals more if I have 50% energy. Should I save up my energy to be above 150 in multi and in monotarget ?
Its called days off 
The ones that do the most damage.
sanguine blades and afaik its not worth playing around, just keep envenom up
what exactly does the timestrike do ?
You can play offset head aswell. It just switches stuff around and wont be too big of a diff imo
is there a way to track the timelines of buffs on yourself and debuffs on a target at the same time with warcraftlogs
chance on hit to replicate damage
what are the crafting embelishments for assa, if playing only M+?
mastery is my lowest stat 😭
get that subwaysurfers ready you adderal addict
outlaws are really a walking meme

where should i use envenom, as in how much energy?
the best part is when you go into a boss fight in a dungeon with no Tea. your burst ends. and you starve out... and you get to literally press 0 buttons for 13 seconds waiting for energy

I feel like a zombie doing the same thing over and over
like at 30%? 50? 😮
I too wish outlaw would outperform
thats litearlly every single wow spec excelt outlaw and enh shaman mate lol
ye well
prolly why I like these 2 specs
it is how it is
idk how you dont get bored after a while
I did the same thing on nymue for 3h 30 straight
legit almost never press a different button
its draining a bit
You only pressed one button? Like you just spammed mutilate the entire time? No wonder it took 3 hours

just toss some kicks and blinds in there for good measure
I dont think going for shiny things like a magpie is that much more interesting 
did he say 3.5 hrs
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
Feels like im so energy drained 24/7 O.o
I think both outlaw and sin are pretty fun this patch. I actually really like sin's AoE rotation even if it can stall out sometimes.
st or mt ?
standard raid time
idk its just more engaging, you react to stuffs/differnet situations
ah
Idno, might just be playing wrong, dont feel like my dmg is any good
im always full energy, sometimes like 10 sec without any at all, but after that its normal again. so i dunno
Well
i switched to arti shock yesterday , 345k in an everbloom +12
and i have 0p
Think maybe im fkn up envenom, i usually pool about 50%
i never pool in aoe
cause its wasted
u should be full energy always in 4+ targets
u can pump in there like gigachad whispyr and make the 1 million
Hmm, ill test out then thanks 😮
well
dafuq is that:
And what is the max CP to use DM on? 😮
i dont like rotation addons, but i recommend "hekili" atm, i use it myself to get used to the roation in aoe and st
i dont use dm in aoe 
😮
Looks like a "didnt do all 3 slots on mythic track? Well here you go" vault

Heroic raid items go up to what ILVL, hero track 480?
483
Oooh
What is considered a decent ilvl for +15 key. Because yesterday I did my own +15 key in ToT and we got oblitared for 2 hours with ilvl 440… didnt manage to finish it.
mine was VERY similar to your 😄
try hekili on 1 or 2 keys. and see if you press stuff wrong. hekili shows u best recommend on next button :3 its realy realy helpful
can anyone help me with some GCD questions
Hard to say. Many people did 20s with like 446-450
and is the cleave done from main target through caustic spatteR?
thats singletarget
with caustic though
yes
is our gcd capped at 1s or can we lower it
and no bonespike
cause its more worth on encounter with adds
different strokes for different people
idk how people can think DF outlaw is fun Personaly 
ehhh would you guys take chest 483 and turn it into tier or midas 483?
oh so i cleave from boss right ?
ty
i use it also
imo chest
its pog
Imo chest aswell
ye i got branch too so i dontr eally want to use 2 on use trinkets
if u have realy only 1 target. use the extra bleed thingi
idk its fast and reactive, not sure how you could not find it fun ^^
also procs fun
give brain things
thats not really a "want"
you just dont do that at all 
I only have 2 on use rn gg
well, at least the legs are good in a long run 😛
krill issue
I cant get the whole pirate thing out of my head. Most outlaws I had in the guild were weird aswell
Its like warrior where you always imagine the Zug zug boys
@balmy condor is there some leeway on buffs applying / dropping off? because i don't understand how dm (16s) ->(1s) shiv ->(1s) kb(14s). With any reasonable amount of human reaction time / key mashin delay time. you can have the last tick of kb inside dm
I mean tbf its not that much piratey
we just have guns
anyone can have guns
cowboy have guns
dm doesn't duplicate kb
Yeah but it used to have the whole cannon barrage stuff and all
Images imprinted into my brain
They are but generally not good pick as tier item since it has versa 😕
Im pretty sure its fun itself
which one ?
kb ticks in 2s intervals you can fit abilities between ticks
Thats just not good reasoning
Some people gem vers
now do i take mythic tier chest for more stats or mythic tier shoulder cause its harder to get 
Highest template has vers
Are you doing the rotation right
if I had to take a random guess it likely didnt get covered by shiv
as far as i can see all buffs are up
but we would have to check the log
For Assa?
i didnt knew the last boss in everbloom has a damage increase lol i just bursted for 1,1 million dps
The log will tell the story on why it’s low
All I was saying that generally the other 4 pieces are better tier set pieces cuz of stats
I’m 5/5 tier even with bis pants it jsut sims better for me
Didn’t crit
They have haste+crit, so they're good as an off-set 😄 would rather get 2pc but yeah...
xD
but it's on gnarl, but his damage taken faded
i thought also , it didnt crit ?

Its not necessarily the case.
Fuus top sin sim uses that for example
It just depends a lot on your other gear
hekili is garbage
wdym
that was a roller coaster of cooking, and burning and realising it was raw inside
wdym 
is 0 accurated
how ?
u will lose more dps than learning how to play the spec
it works fine by me o.o
gaslit myself into thinking dm was affecting kb
12 , 345k o.o ?
Rotation helper in keys never really work out
well if u're gonna do pepega key lvl then yea go for it
Noted thanks!
dude , im too low ilvl to do 16+ and even for that i always get declined anyway 
what ilvl you at?
446-447
that's not too low
!dagger
huh ???
For a pug it is
@feral pelican got an example on Arterial Shock build, finished my key
should look something like this
it's too low when they don'taccept you
idk, i was 448 and got more than 8 16+'s done even an 18
Cause you probably started day 1
I've done some higher keys but only with tank friend. Otherwise I don't get accepted to eve 14s
do ur key
If you’re 447 with low io no one is gonna invite you right now
lioks good no ?
oh for people to accept you? i thought you meant being capable
i done most of my 20s first week with 447 0p
yes
guys i saw in wowhead that the go to rings for assa is the rings from BRH
is that correct info ?
Yes and no
sim yourself is the correct info
i have outlaw stats so its very hard for me to switch xD
I got ashes and signet brand in my vault, if i primarily do keys which is more useful. They both feel like they have pretty large shortcomings in keys
Ashes for keys
assa is not full crit/mastery anymore
just go crit/mastery/haste balanced ?
im Confused xD
link the screenshot ? if u can find it pls
id suggest simming ur stat weights if ur confused
@clever perch well the only thing i wanna say is , if i look on what hekili is showing and what the prio in the guide is , it shows 1 to 1 the same
and it seem to work, but if its "shit" then please give me a good insight on how to do multi please
cause i only use it because it looks right and i try to learn. im always open for other stuff 
found it
should i upgrade toxic patch wrists or make dagger so i can upgrade nick of time faster?
Tempestad carmesi sounds badass, ngl
Your stats ideally are like 40% crit 45%+ mastery 15%+ haste 10% verse
@grand basin vers is kinda ok now
xD
should i upgrade toxic patch wrists or make dagger so i can upgrade nick of time faster?
just sim yourself its not that hard 
its not, it doesnt, do a 8 target patchwerk sim and see what sim does, its faster to learn by doing it urself
check @balmy condor guide
Hekili
opens discord
Stat weight sim
Hekili
Secondary stat conversation

close discord
xD
!whispyr
nono get your popcorn this is good
!whispyr
I don’t have the energy to fight all this misinfo at 2am man
should have pooled better
gg
idk, improve
Real
Need “sim yourself” to be a banned phrase 
im struggling now. pressing wrong buttons and dealing dmg, what do i do now when inpress right buttons 
No, that’s the one thing that should be allowed on filter
actually there should be a bot that auto reply "sim yourself" whenever people ask about stats
It’s just an easy out imo
?????
!fuu
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it's also correct
It is tire some to explain something over n over though.
Insane
do you think you are smarter than simc like what is a better answer
yo i got lucky u 3 are here
what exactly dym if u can explain owo
Whispyr what nameplates are you using? I love you get highlighted dots when they are about tu run out, how can I get thatt?
No I just think helping people with “why” is better
@balmy condor @blazing jewel @midnight mist do you guys use any special mdt string on raidbots?
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Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
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no
damn
run quick sim, 8t. look at sequence of abilities sim uses for opener
We’ve come full circle now to the point where saying “find the correct answer for your character” is considered the easy out
any dslice enjoyer
I open my note to see what side they put me on for X boss and then never use it besdies that lol
this is how u open on m+ pack
Insane
thanka youu
xD
well, for MY CHARACTER 34% crit is bis
i only stat weight sim
Everyone knows the correct answer but never the why
i just guess my upgrades
how's ur progress going btw @blazing jewel
also look what it does outside cooldowns
i mean i can get behind this too, but you were swigning out optimal stat weights like fact, and just like, that's not a why
probably maintains bleeds and envenom when u can
why am i getting asked in sin channel
was an overall question about simming
not about assa tho
but 8+ ? i never got rnd keys where they actually pull more than 6 
You better hope this is a joke
since ur spec is broken in sims kekw
6/9 dead and we finished splits today. going to clap smolderons cheeks on sub 
dang
? How would he know what stats to equip then big man ??
stat weight sim good for one use
mate
for 95% of the time you can go "higher ilvl = upgrade"
you really only need too look up trinkets and maybe ring/neck lol
we are about to kill 5/9 mm
I’m not saying the sim is wrong I just think saying sim yourself doesn’t help people.
if you have a guild of blasters larodar is really easy
Which I think most people come here for help
ofc it is
imagine doing anything other than stats weights 
noted
forced too play dust sub 
btw im still 2p
you guys never used raidbot and it shows
zac lend me your raidbots premium so I can do a 100,000 iteration all gems/enchants sim
I stat weighted my tier set
no
I need to ignite their servers
This you @snow kindle ?
Yes hello
AYO
HIYA
Yeah turn your damn brain on you fucking hypocrite lmao
source = yahoo answers
Not hypocrite
???
you dont pay for raidbots, you leech a old guildies acc that he gave you acces 7years ago
this is objectively wrong btw, sin is unplayable with less than 20% haste
Ideally that’s just how your gear ends up
And raid?
Yeah unplayable 
so the only answer is to sim yourself
??? respect me
300iq
Well yes I did say ideally
Ok
sorry you need to reroll
Does anyone know why am i having energy issues after opener? :((
Not everything is ideal
Yeah super useful for the 445 rogue in chat with no clue what stats to run thanks for the help good sir much appreciated
pewpew
I am
i'd ideally make millions a year, should i put asside my entire income in a year to prepare to pay the taxes for earning those millions
Yeah but the sim yo self with no context is helping them surely
It is
No it isn’t
Because it’s usable for their own character
seems like a lot of people dont know what a sim is so
ngl sims tell me to get more mastery over haste
its wild that no class discord has a pin thats like hey get to 37.3% haste and then only get mastery like rogue disc
smh
they are slacking
they only post "sim yourself"
wait, how does "sim yourself" help for someone who doesn't know what a sim is, vs not helping someone who does
golpe critico !
its how the human characters from the hit series "The Sims" are called
yea imagine calling it golpe critico in spanish kinda dumb right
So you think people dont ask what it is if they dont know. Also them not knowing doesnt change the fact if something is right or wrong
go wowhead whispyr guide then
pretty sure there is a guide about raidbots anywhere here?
idk
What I’m saying is sims will always be right but some people would just like to know why
cuz it simulated with different stats for your character and looks like you do more dps!
because whispyr and the TC crew are good at what they do
Do you guys macro branch and Deathmark together?
most of the times you cant answer why
ye
tyty
why does my sim want more haste here ?
do people use macros on assa? wtf
who tf knows omegalul
Maybe I’m not explaining myself well here
i only use mouseover macros
I think you’re actually dented if you think giving bis stats as a recommendation is in any way more helpful than just telling them to see the best gear for themselves. It doesn’t even make sense logically to do that. We can look at fuu sims for bis, but at the end of last patch most people were simming the 450 ring as a downgrade. We can look at bloodmallet stat distributions, but that’s not realistic to gear that can actually drop. And all of this is entirely unrealistic because the people you’re trying to help won’t ever see fucking anywhere near bis
Also you’re explaining yourself just fine it’s just really stupid
How does you telling someone "ideal stats" tell them a why
I love sin channel
my gues: because it gives more dmg then the Other secondarys with your current gear

so much more entertaining than outlaw
u need more buttons to get people triggered
fotm andys starting too show up 
AINT NO WAY

so me
is this + or - compared to the 200 bear pfp incident in outlaw-ptr
???
True and based
zacssination is a assa staple since tbc
bear pfp?
wdym
the bear epidemic was funny
zacssination
zac is a sin god now smh
its tbc now
I learned assa already
learn it more
Im playing sin on prog
go m+
what do I need to learn more
assa
I did
more
cuz outlaw is capped
becuase I have no idea how to play that thing in m+
bro with the hybrid build ill just be sitting there pooling with my dots up and sustain like 200k
something is sussy
idk how that thing does damage
what i miss about outlaw is
hands off the keyboard
that when playing assa i feel like a fkin clicker
on st
Can you tell me what stats I need more off, thanks m8
no way
u trolling right

AAAAAAAAAAAAA
I go into a pack, press gar 3 times, press a few ruptures, sned all my cds on a guy > guy insta die in one tick, for some reason im doing 900k dps
gg
go next pack
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