#assassination

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strange python
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i saw logs where the timestrike effect deald 10% of all dmg , is it still this broken ?

grim jay
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Its more like 2%+

strange python
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ah+

mystic osprey
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455

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I hope I get 4 piece from raid

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from gnarlroot

strange python
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is 2 piece already big ?

strange python
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sitting on 447 myself

quartz lance
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I'm shook.. it's actually favoring helmet as an off-piece over the trinket

vague coral
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do we have an in game chat for rogues?

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like a community chat im in 2 for pvp

eternal heath
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Man we had such shit loot tonight

strange python
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there ingame chat comms for rogues o.o ?

vague coral
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im asking. theres pvp ones im in

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that use bnet stuff.

strange python
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i could not check vault yet, currently at work AngToxic

quartz lance
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To be honest, I think I'm going to hard pass on the helmet from vault atm. I have a free token from 2k anyway to collect later.

grim jay
clever perch
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what will you be playing?

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Arterial shock mostly?

quartz lance
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Jokes.. yeah my head is a bit shit.

balmy condor
clever perch
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i guess the hybrid one has worse st

strange python
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as build seems very bonkers to me

grim jay
eternal heath
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Would you guys grab 4p immediately or try to get a hero track item first before catalyze

clever perch
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u can get it this week via raiding? u need to rush 4p asap?

mystic osprey
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I grabbed a tier chest piece over some heroic thing because I feel like 4 set is big

eternal heath
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I already raided for the week. Have champ gloves, but need to farm +17 fall anyway for nick and trink

strange python
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i think 4set is big. specially in kb window

mystic osprey
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I dont have my 4 set yet

strange python
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is 2set also big btw ? i see only extra attackspeed and i gues nature dmg ? but is it worth it ?

clever perch
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i though the chest make u 4p

quartz lance
eternal heath
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2p was almost as big of an upgrade as branch for me

mystic osprey
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unfortunately

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almost there

clever perch
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idk i would priorize upgradable 489 pieces over hc tier tbh xD

strange python
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OK

eternal heath
strange python
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OMEGAKEKW bonkers

mystic osprey
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its better than it looks

clever perch
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🙂

mystic osprey
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has anyone killed fyrakk yet?

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on mythic

quartz lance
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No

clever perch
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no lol xD

quartz lance
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They havent even killed tindral

strange python
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imagine running 13 x +7-10 keys last week and u get 12x gold and 1 time gloves that u already wear OMEGAKEKW

eternal heath
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We only did normal and 4/9H

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Liquid got Tswift down

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435 pulls

clever perch
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max is 7/9

quartz lance
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Nvm, Liquid got it down after reset gear

strange python
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im excited to see my vault

clever perch
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not showing it here

grim jay
clever perch
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wtf is that

eternal heath
strange python
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its OMEGAKEKW

balmy condor
clever perch
balmy condor
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Are you allergic

mystic osprey
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Is ultitarian best build then?

eternal heath
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Nobody said 9/9 tho

grim jay
clever perch
eternal heath
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???

clever perch
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they killed all except fyrak

eternal heath
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Nobody said there was one

clever perch
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dude

grim jay
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And one shiv aint that bad feelscryman

balmy condor
clever perch
solemn oracle
turbid canopy
clever perch
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oh i though he mean fyrak xd

quartz lance
eternal heath
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Read both messages lol

clever perch
quartz lance
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8 ilvls on average higher. Meaning they recleared, vault and maybe one or two HC runs?

grim jay
mystic osprey
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so no one killed fyrakk yet

eternal heath
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Correct

clever perch
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no

mystic osprey
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I solo fyrakk on mythic

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its too easy

eternal heath
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Tswift was just downed like 2 hours ago or something

mystic osprey
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raid needs to be harder

clever perch
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ryan what's ur progress

quartz lance
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Liquid hid their logs it looks like.

chilly mist
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Cant make up my mind, craft wrist or belt

feral pelican
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hey i need some help... i am only pulling at max 150k dps. I feel like i am very low. I can say i dont know what the problem is but i suspect stats issues.... i have been getting stat weights and realized i am doing 1 boss ST patchwork. can someone help me get much higher dps in M+

quartz lance
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Because warcraftlogs isn't showing pulls etc...

eternal heath
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Don't most rwf ones do that

clever perch
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it never is

simple ore
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got the legs yet again, but it rolled leech lol

feral mason
feral pelican
quartz lance
simple ore
quartz lance
clever perch
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stats are basically 4k each

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on full bis end-game

simple ore
dark token
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its ok ig

vagrant wagon
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2 set pieces and BiS trinket "ok"

feral pelican
snow kindle
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483 shoudlers are huge man lmfao

dark token
quartz lance
quartz lance
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The one key you have in there though is a 12. I barely did any damage until I started doing like 17s - 19s

feral pelican
clever perch
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what does that mean

feral mason
feral pelican
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shit

mystic osprey
quartz lance
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Because shit died way too quick for any semblance of ramp.

feral pelican
mystic osprey
quartz lance
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Hybrid AoE one

feral mason
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keep linking gnarlroot logs NAHHH

clever perch
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hybrid or arterial shock?

mystic osprey
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use arterial shock for lower keys

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helps with quicker burst imo

clever perch
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idk i reach 1m dmg burst with 2p only

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in m+

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with pepega trinkets

mystic osprey
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whats ur ilvl

feral pelican
clever perch
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im 465 tho

mystic osprey
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ill senbd build

eternal heath
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Sounds like cap

feral pelican
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ty

eternal heath
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Unless you're a DH lmao

feral mason
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no?

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i've bursted 1.4m with the same ilvl

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definitely possible

clever perch
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yea

feral pelican
# mystic osprey use arterial shock

this was my last dungeon
Details!: Overall Damage Done for -- x -- x -- [21:37 EF]

  1. Desani .......... 290.65M (224.1k, 33.1%)
  2. Skraizz .......... 219.85M (169.5k, 25.0%)
  3. Roslyuh ........ 173.51M (133.8k, 19.8%)
  4. Kirikomain .... 168.32M (129.8k, 19.2%)
  5. Foestriker ...... 25.94M (20.0k, 3.0%)
quartz lance
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What level key?

clever perch
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its a deplete

eternal heath
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I'm apparently doing something seriously wrong or need some massive pulls

clever perch
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and is kinda low

dark token
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489 pips

quartz lance
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And what key?

dark token
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vs 483 sandglass

feral mason
feral pelican
mystic osprey
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BMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQSkkIBAAAAAAItkItkAAAAAAAtWSCSgkkSKBRkEJJJJRpViEA @feral pelican

vagrant wagon
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well BiS or rly rly rly good trinket

mystic osprey
vagrant wagon
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on assa all trinkets are insane and rly close together ^^

feral mason
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??

vagrant wagon
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just be happy with a trinket all people in the raid want 😄

feral mason
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how are trinkets close together on assa

mystic osprey
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this man tripping

dark token
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worse

feral mason
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literally the largest trinket disparity ive seen in multiple expansions

thorny aurora
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Yo, thoughts on vault?
Got branch and heroic signet. Hero helmet has socket but I don't think it's the play. Could get mirror but not sure of how it fares vs the trinkets I already have/a sandglass I could farm
Gloves could be the play but they drop fairly early in the raid

dark token
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than my 470 m+ trinket

vagrant wagon
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i mean the 2. "passive" trinket are all rly close togethaaaa

quartz lance
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Mirror is awful

mystic osprey
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thats sorta nice

junior aurora
gentle belfry
dark token
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might be a socket angle for me

junior aurora
dark token
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yeah

junior aurora
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brutal

dark token
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hc tier goes to 483

junior aurora
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6 ilvls on chest vs socket ig

dark token
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483->489 ilvl is probably worse than a socket

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need to sim

gentle belfry
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Maybe Hmm

thorny aurora
feral pelican
# mystic osprey just a saying dont mean anything

whats a good sustained rotation on cds and abilities in the duingeon? like i have the opener down but find myself not using Deathmark (cause i dont reallyu know if it only hits 1 target or not) and not using KB and stuff..... i end up just garrote from stealth and stack ruptures..... then spatter and fan envenom

quartz lance
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Pretty sure mirror is awful for sub as well no?

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Compared to the options there are

thorny aurora
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its fine iirc

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thing is anything pales compared to branch

quartz lance
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I stand corrected. It's good for AoE but the AD trinket is better for ST

clever perch
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dude just screenshot ur details log abilities

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so we can see if something is wrong

feral pelican
twin bay
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30 runs worth after all

quartz lance
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Finally free from the prison it seems

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Meanwhile I'm still in the DOTI jail

thorny aurora
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anyone knows how hard galakronds fall is this week?

solemn oracle
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Fellas

twin bay
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nope need a second one

thorny aurora
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was pretty easy last week

feral pelican
solemn oracle
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We procced happy

clever perch
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im in a key rn

empty lava
ashen sun
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the fire salvo from the third boss in everbloom, it looks like aoe but its all single fireballs she throws at people. Can u feint it?

clever perch
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i also play arterial not hybrid

mystic osprey
grim jay
mystic osprey
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your caustic spatter should be higher

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make sure you get caustic spatter up before you kingsbane

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so pretty much what you do is

junior aurora
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and what key level

feral pelican
junior aurora
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key level?

feral pelican
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wayvrst

keen spruce
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and ring take in vault

grim jay
junior aurora
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ok yeah you need to be picking priority targets with kingsbane

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get bleeds up in opener and then do kingsbane rotation on highest hp mob

keen spruce
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80 keys, 22 falls

mystic osprey
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Spread garrote, spread rupture, slice and dice,mutilate, envenom, shiv, deathmark, shadow dance, kingsbane, garrote, refresh shiv when needed, fan of knives and envenom, thistle on 6 seconds of kingsbane, vanish on 3 and spread garrote again. Maintain rupture and garrote as much as possible, keep caustic spatter up and use combo points on envenom

grim jay
mystic osprey
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and crimson tempest after you finished doing your shit

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with kingsbane

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if you needa do your rotation quicker

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actually nvm idk if that works on mythic

feral pelican
junior aurora
keen spruce
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3 garrotes, fan rupture like 2/3 times, find large mob and mutilate for spatter, snd, send all of the burst. CT at some point during that

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das it

junior aurora
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the vanish is so that master assassin buffs the last 2 ticks of kingsbane

mystic osprey
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kingsbane is core of super dumb burst damage

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along with improved garrote

keen spruce
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the tea at 6 and vanish at 3 are NOT THAT IMPORTANT in keys

junior aurora
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^

junior aurora
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i usually save vanish

grim jay
mystic osprey
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yeah can do that

junior aurora
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to have more aoe damage on later packs

keen spruce
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most packs are going to die before the end of your KB anyways

mystic osprey
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depends on pulls

keen spruce
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there's no point in trying to min/max a vanish in there

mystic osprey
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just make sure you keep up caustic spatter with kingsbane

keen spruce
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vanish is much more useful for spreading garrotes during chain pulls

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and silencing caster packs

static shore
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do we still finish on 4+ combo points when envenom chaining?

keen spruce
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and dodging mechanics

mystic osprey
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depends on the situation

junior aurora
keen spruce
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finish on 4+ or 5+

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makes no difference

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it's completely preference

mystic osprey
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me personally I use a no envenom build 🗿

grim jay
feral pelican
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OK EVERYONE, ty forr the help

junior aurora
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you need to do big keys to do big numbers on this spec lol

feral pelican
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I WILL TRY TO PUT IT INTO PRACTICE

loud creek
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Cant decide what to choose, got 0 tier. got branch

static shore
grim jay
mystic osprey
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and use crimson tempest at the end

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for a lil bit of more dmg

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especially on big packs

keen spruce
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you want tempest and spatter up asap

mystic osprey
junior aurora
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you can put up crimson tempest up earlier

keen spruce
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but not before ruptures and garrotes

mystic osprey
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when I watched it was like tempest at the end of all the important shit like getting envenom up kingsbane and spatter

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but might change because shit dies too quick right?>

thorny aurora
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on huge packs i crimson tempest a bit earlier

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it does a shit ton of damage

keen spruce
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i normally tempest on the first finisher in my dance

junior aurora
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^

keen spruce
junior aurora
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i'll tempest during kingsbane as long as envenom isn't gonna drop

keen spruce
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as long as i have a long envenom going into it

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soemtiems i just drop env

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idc

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that shit isn't going to make or break a key

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blackjack blinds

thorny aurora
keen spruce
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kidneys

junior aurora
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i mean its irrelevant, you're getting a mechanic during kingsbane anyway

keen spruce
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vanish shrouded suff on packs

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are all 100000x more important

junior aurora
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i got thorns on waycrest boss during hero/pi with deathmark rolling

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very cool

keen spruce
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I just did a 22 throne and not a single KB finished it's duration on a trash pack

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so like

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don't worry about min-maxing those

junior aurora
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thats a fort week thing

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have you done atal dazar yet shmeeps

keen spruce
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yeah it's pretty chill

junior aurora
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wtf is that last boss

keen spruce
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it's a little tougher

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same fundamentals tho

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little more healer pressure

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u don't really get to use cloak to clear spiders

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gotta use it on wracking pain

junior aurora
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i was using cloak to dodge wracking pain

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but then clearing spiders

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if i got targeted anyway

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but like i dont think that was the boss they should have buffed in atal dazar

mystic osprey
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got my raid

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gotta impress so I get tier set

junior aurora
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just make rezan a boss again and not the geriatric t rex he's turned into

mystic osprey
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the last boss in ark

spring socket
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what build good this week arterial or hyb ?

half moss
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hey all, would you guys grab the hero tier legs or the hero tier necklace? i currently have no tier, but also have a hero chest to catalyst, and the 2000 io thingy waiting.

half moss
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fo sho

mystic osprey
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if you want 2 piece you should grab the legs though

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depends on what sim says though

candid goblet
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why is our bis rings don't have mastery?

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is that because we have too many already

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on bis gear list

spring socket
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is the Bis list on wowhead accurate?

grim jay
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Because they sim better in that template

candid goblet
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but that template is where we wanna land eventually anyways right

junior aurora
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because witherbark's branch devalues mastery a lot

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if you want the reason that other stats sim better on the rings

clever perch
junior aurora
clever perch
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his rupture damage is fine

candid goblet
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ah okay, so when Mastery value is mentioned in general stat priority, Branch trinket isn't taken into account

mystic osprey
river nexus
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Helo guys. I m newbie on assas rogue. I have a problem with energy menagement. Im almost have an issue with low energy in regular rotation. And always entering Kingsbane and sod with <50 energy. Is there a any trick?

clever perch
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dont waste any energy before going kingsbane

flint tusk
clever perch
river nexus
clever perch
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ofc

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you dont wanna waste burst cds with low energy

river nexus
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Even it takes 10 sec

clever perch
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yea

river nexus
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Okey mate thanks

clever perch
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u can literally go twitter for 10 seconds

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till u see ur energy full

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then smash

river nexus
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Got it thanks a lot

clever perch
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np

livid zodiac
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How is Assa performing in dungeons with 4pc? Can it compete with the other specs?

clever perch
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normally u dont wanna use envenom till u reach high energy

clever perch
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everbloom is a good example

river nexus
earnest light
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hey, coming back to rogue after a long time. got used to stealth/non-stealth bars with similar abilities in each slot e.g. 1 = mutilate or ambush (in stealth), 2 = rupture or garrote (in stealth), etc. Now in assa I can garrote outside of stealth too, and blindside grants free ambushes outside of stealth. Any clean ways to bind in this respect? Thx

clever perch
hexed willow
clever perch
hexed willow
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garrotte is a rotational ability, don't think if it like rupture

clever perch
earnest light
hexed willow
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because blindside hasn't triggered

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but if it triggers, mutilate -> blindside

earnest light
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ah

clever perch
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if you already wasted your deathmark and u dont have dance+kingsbane (is coming out in like 15 sec) then you dont press envenom before reaching like 200 energy atleast

livid zodiac
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I feel like Outlaw falls off on ST and Assa is more consistent, so thinking about trying that for dungeons, but unsure about their AoE.
I don't see the Rotation guides mentioning swapping targets to apply dots. Do we just rely on Indiscriminate Carnage to spread?

So my question is: if we have dots on main and the spreads with Indiscriminate do we prio envenom over spreading dots to targets without?

earnest light
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that's good

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thanks

livid zodiac
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Maybe Outlaw is only inconsistent because i don't 4pc yet..

hexed willow
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you want to be chaining your envenoms

grim jay
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@blazing jewel what build do you use in m+ btw? PogO

hexed willow
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like your energy is going to fall too low and then you'll restart your chains after waiting

river nexus
hexed willow
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but you shouldn't be using mutilate and then waiting *without purpose

river nexus
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Thx a lot

hexed willow
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or I can share the video that whispyr describes how to pool?

clever perch
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you press envenom here (when u reach like 240 energy)

junior aurora
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if you have 4 piece you chain envenoms until you're out of energy

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and then you go back to 240

clever perch
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well im talking about 2p/0p ye

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didnt have the chance to play 4p yet

junior aurora
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if you have 2p/0p you can play the same way honestly

hexed willow
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^

junior aurora
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you just don't get rewarded for it

grim jay
blazing jewel
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idk man lol

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last week I ended 300k+ in pretty much every key but not sure how much it was to bosses

clever perch
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not having high energy while using ur cds is trolling imo

royal lantern
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mf's looking at m+ dps numbers

blazing jewel
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depends what cds I had when we pulled

clever perch
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but up to u guys xD

royal lantern
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meanwhile im sitting here "oh boss dies, neat"

hexed willow
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ofc you would have high energy when using your cds

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you can plan ahead

junior aurora
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yeah you don't dump all of your energy when kb is about to come off cd lol

ornate topaz
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this with ilvl 460(upgradeable) worth taking from vault? I have there bunch of 480s but its things like wrists, waist and head(which I could make tier but I dont have even 1/4 yet...) my trinkets are still420 tho...

junior aurora
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unless you have tea ig

grim jay
ornate topaz
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I went for Branch like 10 times and never dropped 😦

balmy condor
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Go again:)

ornate topaz
stable meteor
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Don't worry I'm on 30+ on fall, no dagger yet

junior aurora
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fuck it

hexed willow
ornate topaz
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so I guess taking 480 head for tier piece is better choice right ?

ornate topaz
blazing jewel
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if you all dont play the most optimal setup for each key at the exact keystone level

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why live

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RAIDERIO SCORE IS THE PRIZE

junior aurora
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imagine taking iron wire when ttk is a slight dps upgrade

grim jay
velvet ridge
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how the fuck do you kill first boss Throne of tides?

junior aurora
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with dps

velvet ridge
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the focus tempest, HUH

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1 shots

grim jay
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Just bring Boss HP to 0

velvet ridge
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cant feint it

grim jay
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Cant imagine it being that bad

mystic osprey
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when do I use potion

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of power in rotation

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st

grim jay
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Whats your gear and the keystone level?

velvet ridge
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470, 22

mystic osprey
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deathmark?

junior aurora
empty lava
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dm

mystic osprey
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ok

junior aurora
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just macro it in

mystic osprey
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ty

gaunt moat
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are you playing hybrid build for tyrannical?

left meadow
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just playing rogus as an alt and stuff, but is it terrible to do waist + boots

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over wrists + boots

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for emblishedment

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and if so, how big difference would it make with max gear

royal lantern
midnight atlas
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meme vault for me. pepeclown

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crit vers items, tierset on legs

chilly mist
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@left meadow don't think so. You're stronger now by going waist but it'll be replaced down the line when minmaxing through vault. wrists wont be replaced

ornate topaz
pulsar apex
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Do double cruel daggers give double buffs?

chilly mist
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@left meadow is how I understand it anyway

grim jay
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Does it even matter if you get the buffs 2 times kekdog

toxic whale
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Is there a YouTube video that goes in depth on the m+ aoe rotation?

grim jay
chilly mist
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@grim jay which one would u go for

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having a hard time deciding myself

hexed willow
hexed willow
grim jay
chilly mist
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Yeah, like generally

toxic whale
modest gale
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is sophic devotion okay for raid?

pulsar apex
modest gale
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or wafting is better

royal lantern
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sim

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lol

keen spruce
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@hexed willow

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can u fuckin relax

grim jay
keen spruce
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on the io

hexed willow
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What do you mean

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What did I do 😦

keen spruce
chilly mist
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@grim jay yeah that's smart

hexed willow
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I’m the fake one

keen spruce
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oh

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nvm

grim jay
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Rip

keen spruce
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maybe he went to bed

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rio update slow

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i'm 2815 now mad

midnight mist
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Do you wanna force rupture in dance

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Like for the next set of CDs after opener

keen spruce
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i almost always do

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unless it'll drop envenom

hexed willow
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I’m a slow poke

royal lantern
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99% of eu players are at work rn

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and could not even play

keen spruce
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i nkow that's why i'm pushin

grim jay
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But not working

keen spruce
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gotta get in the top 10 world before everyone finishes their splits and tuesday raids and their "being european"

grim jay
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Getting hyped for maximum despair watching the good vaults

blazing jewel
grim jay
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Zac just finally realized whats good for him

midnight mist
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zacssassination

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hm

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idk

chilly grove
grim jay
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Zacsination

midnight mist
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I got bored in raid yesterday

midnight mist
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im entering withdrawall from outlaw aderall already

#

this shit slow af

ornate topaz
lean kite
#

Did the 4pc get nerfed or is the tooltip on Wowhead old? I see the envenom damage boost to a single target only being 30% on live

whole herald
chilly grove
#

best vault in my life idk

whole herald
#

did like 30 keys and full raid clear

#

:/

cedar dagger
#

which tierpieces have prio?

#

all except legs?

#

I can make 4-set today thats why im asking

grim jay
#

Just gotta be lucky

pallid spear
whole herald
#

do you have a life

cedar dagger
#

Oke @pallid spear thx mate

#

appreciate all the tips here

pallid isle
#

Hi, I'm trying out assassination and because of one talent I can't remember the name (sanguine blades maybe ?) I know the bleeds deals more if I have 50% energy. Should I save up my energy to be above 150 in multi and in monotarget ?

grim jay
upper spear
#

2nd dagger acquired

limpid scarab
stable atlas
ornate topaz
grim jay
oak tangle
#

is there a way to track the timelines of buffs on yourself and debuffs on a target at the same time with warcraftlogs

upper spear
urban iron
#

what are the crafting embelishments for assa, if playing only M+?

velvet ridge
#

mastery is my lowest stat 😭

royal lantern
#

outlaws are really a walking meme

midnight mist
#

bro

#

your spec is too scripted im sorry

surreal spear
#

where should i use envenom, as in how much energy?

keen spruce
# midnight mist this shit slow af

the best part is when you go into a boss fight in a dungeon with no Tea. your burst ends. and you starve out... and you get to literally press 0 buttons for 13 seconds waiting for energy

midnight mist
#

I feel like a zombie doing the same thing over and over

surreal spear
#

like at 30%? 50? 😮

stable atlas
royal lantern
midnight mist
#

ye well

#

prolly why I like these 2 specs

#

it is how it is

#

idk how you dont get bored after a while

#

I did the same thing on nymue for 3h 30 straight

#

legit almost never press a different button

#

its draining a bit

lean kite
#

You only pressed one button? Like you just spammed mutilate the entire time? No wonder it took 3 hours

midnight mist
fleet pagoda
grim jay
blazing jewel
#

did he say 3.5 hrs

static shore
#

!wa

surreal spear
#

Feels like im so energy drained 24/7 O.o

lean kite
#

I think both outlaw and sin are pretty fun this patch. I actually really like sin's AoE rotation even if it can stall out sometimes.

strange python
midnight mist
midnight mist
blazing jewel
#

kill larodar SClicklickFAST

#

that boss is fun

surreal spear
#

Mostly both

#

But that is when running utility spec

strange python
#

ah

surreal spear
#

Idno, might just be playing wrong, dont feel like my dmg is any good

strange python
#

im always full energy, sometimes like 10 sec without any at all, but after that its normal again. so i dunno

surreal spear
#

130k overall (at a +13 tho)

#

with 4p

grim jay
#

Well

strange python
grim jay
#

Overall on a 13 is pretty eh

#

Gotta do some keys where stuff actually stays alive

strange python
#

and i have 0p

surreal spear
#

Think maybe im fkn up envenom, i usually pool about 50%

strange python
#

i never pool in aoe

#

cause its wasted

#

u should be full energy always in 4+ targets

#

u can pump in there like gigachad whispyr and make the 1 million

surreal spear
#

Hmm, ill test out then thanks 😮

strange python
#

well

pseudo hamlet
#

dafuq is that:

surreal spear
#

And what is the max CP to use DM on? 😮

strange python
#

i dont like rotation addons, but i recommend "hekili" atm, i use it myself to get used to the roation in aoe and st

#

i dont use dm in aoe OMEGAKEKW

surreal spear
#

😮

strange python
#

because monsters die too fast

#

16+ maybe

grim jay
normal mist
#

Heroic raid items go up to what ILVL, hero track 480?

grim jay
#

483

normal mist
#

Oooh

tawny geyser
#

What is considered a decent ilvl for +15 key. Because yesterday I did my own +15 key in ToT and we got oblitared for 2 hours with ilvl 440… didnt manage to finish it.

ornate topaz
strange python
neat horizon
#

seen ppl play this build on larodar

#

is it good ?

oak tangle
#

can anyone help me with some GCD questions

grim jay
neat horizon
#

and is the cleave done from main target through caustic spatteR?

strange python
neat horizon
#

with caustic though

strange python
#

yes

oak tangle
#

is our gcd capped at 1s or can we lower it

neat horizon
#

and no bonespike

strange python
#

cause its more worth on encounter with adds

royal lantern
blazing roost
#

ehhh would you guys take chest 483 and turn it into tier or midas 483?

neat horizon
#

oh so i cleave from boss right ?

strange python
#

its a dancer build

#

yes

neat horizon
#

ty

strange python
#

i use it also

strange python
#

its pog

blazing roost
#

ye i got branch too so i dontr eally want to use 2 on use trinkets

strange python
midnight mist
#

also procs fun

#

give brain things

royal lantern
midnight mist
#

I only have 2 on use rn gg

pseudo hamlet
surreal citrus
#

krill issue

grim jay
#

Its like warrior where you always imagine the Zug zug boys

oak tangle
#

@balmy condor is there some leeway on buffs applying / dropping off? because i don't understand how dm (16s) ->(1s) shiv ->(1s) kb(14s). With any reasonable amount of human reaction time / key mashin delay time. you can have the last tick of kb inside dm

midnight mist
#

we just have guns

#

anyone can have guns

#

cowboy have guns

surreal citrus
#

dm doesn't duplicate kb

grim jay
#

Images imprinted into my brain

ornate topaz
grim jay
#

Im pretty sure its fun itself

blazing jewel
grim jay
#

Some people gem vers

dark token
#

now do i take mythic tier chest for more stats or mythic tier shoulder cause its harder to get Hmm

grim jay
#

Highest template has vers

oak tangle
#

the reason why i ask is i am currently confused as to why my last tick is so smol

snow kindle
blazing jewel
#

if I had to take a random guess it likely didnt get covered by shiv

oak tangle
#

as far as i can see all buffs are up

blazing jewel
#

but we would have to check the log

ornate topaz
whole herald
#

i didnt knew the last boss in everbloom has a damage increase lol i just bursted for 1,1 million dps

snow kindle
#

The log will tell the story on why it’s low

grim jay
#

Sin wants a good mix

ornate topaz
snow kindle
pseudo hamlet
oak tangle
#

it did crit

strange python
#

xD

oak tangle
#

but it's on gnarl, but his damage taken faded

strange python
#

i thought also , it didnt crit ?

blazing jewel
grim jay
#

Fuus top sin sim uses that for example

#

It just depends a lot on your other gear

oak tangle
#

that was a roller coaster of cooking, and burning and realising it was raw inside

strange python
clever perch
#

is 0 accurated

strange python
#

how ?

clever perch
#

u will lose more dps than learning how to play the spec

strange python
#

it works fine by me o.o

clever perch
#

on which key lvl

#

and how much dps?

#

its definitely not good xD

oak tangle
#

gaslit myself into thinking dm was affecting kb

strange python
#

12 , 345k o.o ?

snow kindle
#

Rotation helper in keys never really work out

clever perch
#

well if u're gonna do pepega key lvl then yea go for it

ornate topaz
strange python
#

dude , im too low ilvl to do 16+ and even for that i always get declined anyway OMEGAKEKW

strange python
#

446-447

oak tangle
#

that's not too low

rustic minnow
#

!dagger

strange python
#

huh ???

snow kindle
#

For a pug it is

clever perch
#

@feral pelican got an example on Arterial Shock build, finished my key

#

should look something like this

storm hedge
clever perch
oak tangle
#

idk, i was 448 and got more than 8 16+'s done even an 18

snow kindle
storm hedge
#

I've done some higher keys but only with tank friend. Otherwise I don't get accepted to eve 14s

clever perch
#

not sure about how 4p would look

clever perch
snow kindle
#

If you’re 447 with low io no one is gonna invite you right now

strange python
oak tangle
#

oh for people to accept you? i thought you meant being capable

clever perch
#

i done most of my 20s first week with 447 0p

grand basin
#

guys i saw in wowhead that the go to rings for assa is the rings from BRH

#

is that correct info ?

snow kindle
#

Yes and no

clever perch
#

sim yourself is the correct info

snow kindle
#

Any ring can be good for you

#

Just depends on your stat weights

clever perch
#

stats are kinda mixed rn on assa

#

is like 4k on each stat

grand basin
#

i have outlaw stats so its very hard for me to switch xD

sterile root
#

I got ashes and signet brand in my vault, if i primarily do keys which is more useful. They both feel like they have pretty large shortcomings in keys

clever perch
grand basin
#

just go crit/mastery/haste balanced ?

clever perch
#

no

#

u also need vers

#

fuu shared a screenshot a few days ago

grand basin
#

im Confused xD

rustic minnow
#

its always around 10% vers

#

at least

grand basin
rustic minnow
#

id suggest simming ur stat weights if ur confused

strange python
#

@clever perch well the only thing i wanna say is , if i look on what hekili is showing and what the prio in the guide is , it shows 1 to 1 the same PogO and it seem to work, but if its "shit" then please give me a good insight on how to do multi please starege cause i only use it because it looks right and i try to learn. im always open for other stuff Surebud

clever perch
#

found it

visual hemlock
#

should i upgrade toxic patch wrists or make dagger so i can upgrade nick of time faster?

royal lantern
snow kindle
#

Your stats ideally are like 40% crit 45%+ mastery 15%+ haste 10% verse

clever perch
sick radish
#

@grand basin vers is kinda ok now

clever perch
visual hemlock
#

should i upgrade toxic patch wrists or make dagger so i can upgrade nick of time faster?

blazing jewel
#

concernedpopcorn just sim yourself its not that hard concernedpopcorn

dark token
clever perch
#

Hekili

balmy condor
#

opens discord
Stat weight sim
Hekili
Secondary stat conversation
NOP
close discord

clever perch
#

xD

midnight mist
#

!whispyr

blazing jewel
clever perch
#

!whispyr

balmy condor
#

I don’t have the energy to fight all this misinfo at 2am man

midnight mist
#

its 11 AM already

#

bro in the wrong timezone again

royal lantern
midnight mist
#

gg

balmy condor
snow kindle
#

Need “sim yourself” to be a banned phrase starege

strange python
#

im struggling now. pressing wrong buttons and dealing dmg, what do i do now when inpress right buttons OMEGAKEKW

oak tangle
#

why would / should sim yourself be banned

#

wot

balmy condor
clever perch
#

actually there should be a bot that auto reply "sim yourself" whenever people ask about stats

snow kindle
#

It’s just an easy out imo

blazing jewel
#

?????

sick radish
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
oak tangle
#

it's also correct

balmy condor
#

What

#

An easy out to give a correct answer

snow kindle
#

It is tire some to explain something over n over though.

balmy condor
#

Insane

blazing jewel
#

do you think you are smarter than simc like what is a better answer

clever perch
#

yo i got lucky u 3 are here

strange python
storm hedge
#

Whispyr what nameplates are you using? I love you get highlighted dots when they are about tu run out, how can I get thatt?

snow kindle
#

No I just think helping people with “why” is better

clever perch
#

@balmy condor @blazing jewel @midnight mist do you guys use any special mdt string on raidbots?

midnight mist
#

no

clever perch
#

damn

midnight mist
#

I use dslice

dark token
balmy condor
#

We’ve come full circle now to the point where saying “find the correct answer for your character” is considered the easy out

midnight mist
#

any dslice enjoyer

blazing jewel
dark token
#

this is how u open on m+ pack

balmy condor
#

Insane

strange python
#

thanka youu

royal lantern
rustic minnow
#

i only stat weight sim

snow kindle
rustic minnow
#

i just guess my upgrades

clever perch
#

how's ur progress going btw @blazing jewel

midnight mist
#

also why did you tag me

#

im legit first timing sin

dark token
oak tangle
dark token
#

probably maintains bleeds and envenom when u can

midnight mist
#

why am i getting asked in sin channel

clever perch
#

not about assa tho

strange python
#

but 8+ ? i never got rnd keys where they actually pull more than 6 OMEGAKEKW

balmy condor
clever perch
#

since ur spec is broken in sims kekw

blazing jewel
clever perch
#

dang

midnight mist
oak tangle
royal lantern
clever perch
#

we are about to kill 5/9 mm

snow kindle
blazing jewel
snow kindle
#

Which I think most people come here for help

rustic minnow
midnight mist
#

imagine doing anything other than stats weights ICANT

clever perch
#

btw im still 2p

midnight mist
#

you guys never used raidbot and it shows

clever perch
#

full nm and full hc in 2 SPLITS

#

4/9 MM

#

2p

blazing jewel
#

zac lend me your raidbots premium so I can do a 100,000 iteration all gems/enchants sim

midnight mist
#

I stat weighted my tier set

blazing jewel
#

I need to ignite their servers

midnight mist
#

pay for it bozo

balmy condor
snow kindle
midnight mist
#

AYO

blazing jewel
#

HIYA

balmy condor
#

Yeah turn your damn brain on you fucking hypocrite lmao

clever perch
snow kindle
#

Not hypocrite

royal lantern
midnight mist
snow kindle
#

Ideally that’s just how your gear ends up

kindred ingot
#

And raid?

blazing jewel
#

okay but nobody has the ideal setup

#

so nobody can use that info

snow kindle
#

Yeah unplayable starege

blazing jewel
#

so the only answer is to sim yourself

blazing jewel
#

300iq

snow kindle
#

Well yes I did say ideally

kindred ingot
#

Ok

midnight mist
spring geyser
#

Does anyone know why am i having energy issues after opener? :((

snow kindle
#

Not everything is ideal

balmy condor
clever perch
#

pewpew

midnight mist
oak tangle
#

i'd ideally make millions a year, should i put asside my entire income in a year to prepare to pay the taxes for earning those millions

snow kindle
balmy condor
#

It is

snow kindle
#

No it isn’t

balmy condor
#

Because it’s usable for their own character

snow kindle
#

Like if someone DOESNT know what a sim is

#

Sure

#

I get behind that

midnight mist
#

seems like a lot of people dont know what a sim is so

clever perch
blazing jewel
#

its wild that no class discord has a pin thats like hey get to 37.3% haste and then only get mastery like rogue disc

#

smh

#

they are slacking

#

they only post "sim yourself"

clever perch
oak tangle
#

wait, how does "sim yourself" help for someone who doesn't know what a sim is, vs not helping someone who does

clever perch
#

pepega haste 10%

midnight mist
#

golpe critico !

royal lantern
clever perch
#

yea imagine calling it golpe critico in spanish kinda dumb right

grim jay
clever perch
#

pretty sure there is a guide about raidbots anywhere here?

#

idk

snow kindle
midnight mist
#

why

#

cause like

clever perch
oak tangle
bitter trout
#

Do you guys macro branch and Deathmark together?

midnight mist
#

most of the times you cant answer why

bitter trout
#

tyty

midnight mist
#

why does my sim want more haste here ?

clever perch
midnight mist
#

who tf knows omegalul

snow kindle
#

Maybe I’m not explaining myself well here

clever perch
#

i only use mouseover macros

balmy condor
# snow kindle Maybe I’m not explaining myself well here

I think you’re actually dented if you think giving bis stats as a recommendation is in any way more helpful than just telling them to see the best gear for themselves. It doesn’t even make sense logically to do that. We can look at fuu sims for bis, but at the end of last patch most people were simming the 450 ring as a downgrade. We can look at bloodmallet stat distributions, but that’s not realistic to gear that can actually drop. And all of this is entirely unrealistic because the people you’re trying to help won’t ever see fucking anywhere near bis

Also you’re explaining yourself just fine it’s just really stupid

grim jay
clever perch
#

damn i love this fkin discord

#

imagine all class discords were like this

midnight mist
#

I love sin channel

royal lantern
midnight mist
#

so much more entertaining than outlaw

grim jay
#

And whispyr

clever perch
royal lantern
grim jay
blazing jewel
royal lantern
#

???

grim jay
royal lantern
#

zacssination is a assa staple since tbc

clever perch
#

bear pfp?

royal lantern
#

wdym

midnight mist
#

zacssination

clever perch
#

zac pls go learn assa

#

i wanna see u dancing

midnight mist
#

been here since cata

#

wdym

blazing jewel
#

zac is a sin god now smh

royal lantern
midnight mist
#

I learned assa already

clever perch
#

learn it more

midnight mist
#

Im playing sin on prog

clever perch
#

go m+

midnight mist
#

what do I need to learn more

clever perch
#

assa

midnight mist
#

I did

clever perch
#

more

midnight mist
#

and I wanna say

#

idk why im doing so much damage in m+

clever perch
#

cuz outlaw is capped

midnight mist
#

becuase I have no idea how to play that thing in m+

clever perch
#

idk sim urself

#

🙂

midnight mist
#

but I do so much more than on outaw

#

so

blazing jewel
#

bro with the hybrid build ill just be sitting there pooling with my dots up and sustain like 200k

midnight mist
#

something is sussy

blazing jewel
#

idk how that thing does damage

clever perch
#

what i miss about outlaw is

blazing jewel
#

hands off the keyboard

clever perch
#

that when playing assa i feel like a fkin clicker

blazing jewel
#

on st

slim hedge
#

Can you tell me what stats I need more off, thanks m8

clever perch
#

no way

clever perch
#

u trolling right

blazing jewel
clever perch
#

AAAAAAAAAAAAA

midnight mist
#

I go into a pack, press gar 3 times, press a few ruptures, sned all my cds on a guy > guy insta die in one tick, for some reason im doing 900k dps

#

gg

#

go next pack

royal lantern