#assassination

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copper grove
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explain

shut owl
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er, actually didn't whispyr say something about those two in combo in sims specifically?

slim hamlet
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"you're based for this one on god"*

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I corrected it for u

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it's ok

shut owl
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sanguine doesn't even stack. just hit the caster with KB and laugh as he still dies while healing

copper grove
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my m+ group heals so much on sanguine

shut owl
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ez

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that's a group problem

runic hinge
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Tell your tank to get good

shut owl
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not a rogue problem

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spam blind more

slim hamlet
bleak ivy
slim hamlet
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The whole dungeon has to be sanguine

copper grove
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taking wound poison loses me 3million damage over a 40min dungeon

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the gain is far higher than that

shut owl
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I'm gonna look at my 18 DHT with a rando DK doing 30k overall and just vibing in sanguine

runic hinge
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DHT is just miserable this week regardless

balmy condor
# copper grove explain

Simple math, you can choose to reduce healing, or deal damage.

On subtlety/ourlaw, people did this math countless times with their logs and it’s either close. Sometimes on bad keys it’s worth, on good keys it isn’t. And that’s with instant poison, a poison that does baseline half as much without accounting for any mastery or dragon tempered blades if the rogues playing that

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It’s never been worth for assassination

copper grove
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ya im outlaw

balmy condor
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Especially now that sang doesn’t stack

subtle tundra
balmy condor
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Well then why the fuck are we here

subtle tundra
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im aggressive now

copper grove
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Rokas summoned me

shut owl
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lolwut

subtle tundra
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rokas has been a troll all the time here

copper grove
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i didnt choose to be here

shut owl
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you can leave tho

balmy condor
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He summoned you to assassination over an assassination question and you go “I’m outlaw”

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@bleak ivy you’re getting the bat too now

bleak ivy
slim hamlet
bleak ivy
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for?

copper grove
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😎

proven jasper
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LMAOO

bleak ivy
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I just delivered the message

proven jasper
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W

balmy condor
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HE DOESNT PLAY THIS SPEC

slim hamlet
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So Whispyr how much does sanguine have to heal for wound to be worth

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exact number please

bleak ivy
grand trail
balmy condor
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Well then why the fuck is this conversation happening

shut owl
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... I just hear "Oh no oh no oh no"... my wife somehow did an aug breath off the platform on the time battlefield boss in rise. I'm dead

subtle tundra
bleak ivy
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jk

slim hamlet
bleak ivy
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I just asked if its worth

balmy condor
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As if there wasn’t enough apes in this channel now there’s one more

dusty loom
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Apes together, strong.

bleak ivy
slim hamlet
slim hamlet
shut owl
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sanguine ichor was 20M in that cursed waste of a DHT, my deadly poison was 18M.

balmy condor
shut owl
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don't need to math that

bleak ivy
shut owl
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it was an EXPERIENCE

slim hamlet
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My 20 darkheart that actually went decently was 60 mil

shut owl
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our tank did 15k st.

bleak ivy
slim hamlet
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oof

dusk palm
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is there anywhere I can read about recovering after you mess your flow up for sin?

shut owl
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I pulled off and main tanked 2nd boss for most of it with evasion and sneaky teleports

shut owl
runic hinge
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DHT is too red for sanguine to exist

slim hamlet
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Anything is too red for sanguine to exist

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0% red and it's too much

dusk palm
bleak ivy
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takingg ddonations

slim hamlet
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Hybrid build on sanguine weeks

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Poison bomb biggest troll

shut owl
dusty loom
shut owl
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missing shiv in first half of KB is oof, but doesn't completely ruin you

kindred epoch
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is there anything wrong with the haste stat weight in assa sims or is it normal? its telling me to swap off mastery items in favor of haste on almost every slot and im already at 40% mastery only

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i dont get it

shut owl
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but 0 shiv on a KB is kinda gross bad

balmy condor
kindred epoch
balmy condor
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Sounds good to me

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You have a branch probably

dusty loom
kindred epoch
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yea

balmy condor
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Yeah no issues

kindred epoch
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aight

shut owl
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our CD's are very locked in, so just work on consistency. if you're fatfingering often, try experimenting with sequence cast macros or new button layouts. I had to completely rework my layout when KB/Shiv became big and ambush extra-button-died. @dusk palm

rancid nimbus
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do I want to switch targets for caustic spatter ? so it is on as many targets as possible?

spice spire
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The thing that gives you a bajillion mastery

balmy condor
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Sims doing what they’ve done for the last decade

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Amen

kindred epoch
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noted ty

drifting cloud
runic hinge
kindred epoch
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lol

rancid nimbus
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oh .. so if I switch is goes to another target 😄

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fml

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haha

kindred epoch
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ideally u just put it on whoever u wanna funnel i believe

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same target ur using kingsbane on and leave it there

rancid nimbus
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jesus. thanks guys

boreal raven
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you boys basically jus swappin caustic in for internal bleeding whenever theres a fight with adds?

rancid nimbus
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will do!

shut owl
rancid nimbus
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thank!

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❤️

boreal raven
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fuckin fantastic

kindred epoch
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free aoe

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that shit currently doing 10%+ dmg in my keys and i dont have to worry about a thing for it

boreal raven
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also pooling energy for envenom debuff pandemic?

dusk palm
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do you guys swap targets on something like Igira as sin?

boreal raven
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or for more reasons

dusk palm
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or just caustic and hit boss in the face

shut owl
kindred epoch
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i believe igira weps are usually out of range of caustic

wild flint
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Is there an Ez mode M+ build for new players to the spec? I saw raid one on IV but nothing for m+ help plz =3

dusk palm
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lets say weps are close enough that you can hit them if you chose to. it feels silly to put bleeds up

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but i'm not sure if its still good

shut owl
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I wouldn't in general

kindred epoch
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depends how much dmg ur raid has

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if theyre dying in 5 sec not worth

shut owl
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if you're in a really small guild doing heroic it might be worth since no one else is gonna do the damn mechanic

kindred epoch
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just hit boss, maybe send a fan of knives to apply poisons and thats it

shut owl
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but if you're zerging with 30 on splits/farm crew someone else can handle them

deft cave
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!up

icy acorn
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anybody feeling lucky about a week 1 nick of time vault? copium

slim hamlet
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Easily

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Can't wait to see 3 of them

rotund oak
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Its in my pocket

slim hamlet
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Just pickpocket it lol

icy acorn
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imagine

rotund oak
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😄

icy acorn
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open your vault and get pickpocketed immideately

rotund oak
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ive got all the loot table from fall

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besides the dagger

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ill surely gonna loot it as well

calm heron
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I'm confused on when I should use crimson tempest over envenom

rotund oak
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CT for aoe

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basicly envenom for aoe as well

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lul

kindred epoch
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i think u just keep the bleed up

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and envenoms inbetween

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no?

calm heron
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so crimson tempest if not up envenom if its up?

kindred epoch
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specially once u have 4set that turns envenom into an aoe

kindred epoch
rotund oak
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yes

calm heron
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I tried using Hekili to figure it out and I think it confused me more than it helped

balmy condor
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That’s cause it’s a shit addon

drifting cloud
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that was your first mistake

icy acorn
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hekili is the biggest bait

north jetty
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Mega bait

balmy condor
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Frankly don’t remember the last time I’ve seen someone get value out of hekili

icy acorn
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there never was a time where someone got value out of hekili

north jetty
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Go hit a target dummy for a few hours

tough gorge
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I’m not sure it’s really complicated when to CT or envenom tbh. CT is not spammable anymore might be the confusion

icy acorn
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i usually CT right after kingsbane and 2+ mobs

royal lantern
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ct for dot

icy acorn
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or if kb not up after rupture

wispy apex
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Are there any viable build with acrobatic strike?

calm heron
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The assasination AoE opener list is it any good?

rotund oak
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i think i dont like CT for ST but whispyr might wanna clarify this

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is it worth to use ST or not

tough gorge
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No

kindred epoch
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should i CT on boss fights in m+

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?

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since im already spec'd into it for the aoe

rotund oak
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I would sim it if i knew exactly how to tbh 😄

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whispyr is ignoring us waiting to mock me

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so ill pass

kindred epoch
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i would think not? because CT is good when multiple targets cuz it does extra dmg

icy acorn
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i think the wowhead guide says CT at 2+ targets

kindred epoch
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the higher the target count

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but u never know

tough gorge
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Don’t CT on ST

icy acorn
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if ct would be good on st you would always do it

gusty mirage
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now farm a second dagger

icy acorn
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imagine not having 2

blazing jewel
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monkaStop I gave my second one to another rogue in the guild

drifting cloud
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good boy

blazing jewel
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I still havent looted my sandglass so im still in prison there

junior aurora
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simp

balmy condor
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???????????????

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do not CT single target

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do not

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stop

icy acorn
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i think we shouldnt ct at st

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but im not sure

drifting cloud
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someone should ask in an hour just to be sure

slate crown
blazing jewel
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yea it does

slate crown
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Yeah I thought so

blazing jewel
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but thats kind of a who cares thing imo

gusty mirage
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ask now

slate crown
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I never heard it because I don't use it but I was doing a review to make a new version with some improvements and reading the code I realized it woudl do that

drifting cloud
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whispyrs ready for it

slate crown
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So, will be fixed

blazing jewel
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only matters for the mini game m+ kekdog

gusty mirage
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true

blazing jewel
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oxi SoCute

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we kill nymue tonight

blazing jewel
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its already dead

gusty mirage
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good

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my simping for consequence lives on through you scana

blazing jewel
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live through hawk

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hes our true champion

gusty mirage
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no

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just like my simping for Colour remains solely because of Stealthi

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carrying the torch for Push

oak sky
blazing jewel
grim tangle
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I miss push at least that guy never played my spec

balmy condor
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yeah now we have zac

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ick

drifting cloud
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if you dont count sepulcher I dont even know what was the last tier they didnt get to endboss week1

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apparently even avatar died week1

balmy condor
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no no

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the race is so easy now

gusty mirage
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is tindrel still touching them in their no no places?

balmy condor
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you don't get it

junior aurora
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avatar died week 1 after like 450 pulls

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was every other boss killed in like 3 pulls before him lol

oak sky
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Liquid is gonna have a great friendsgiving

drifting cloud
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the number of pulls isnt that relevant when you dont know average combat time

junior aurora
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a friendsgiving staring down fyrakk

rotund oak
gusty mirage
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I wish I could have a friendsgiving

rotund oak
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explosive combination

balmy condor
gusty mirage
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no turkey day celebration for me this year

blazing jewel
gusty mirage
blazing jewel
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have to see our outlaw man win

rotund oak
gusty mirage
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wtf

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@blazing jewel you cheating on me?

balmy condor
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step isn't a movement ability blizzard pls fix

exotic hearth
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Does anyone know what the best creature type to do the dagger use from early in the raid is?

blazing jewel
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probably mechanical?

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for the weak cheat death passive

balmy condor
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where my leech under 50% copers

cosmic rivet
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As assassination how can we alter the rotation in m+ for when stuff dies a bit too quick?

junior aurora
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press shiv after spreading bleeds and get carried by sudden demise damage

balmy condor
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doing addition to the key level

gusty mirage
gusty mirage
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no fall damage when I'm running around on a ground mount in valdrakken like an idiot

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and 10% more leech?

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SIGN ME THE FUCK UP

balmy condor
gusty mirage
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if you don't read the rest of the buff line

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it's just 10% leech

balmy condor
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kinda true

strong wing
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Do we have to pandemic rupture and garrote also?

gusty mirage
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fixed

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wait

drifting cloud
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you had me at falling damage greatly reduced

gusty mirage
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big brain

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swap it per boss

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3% reduced nature damage on council/nymue?

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HUGE

blazing jewel
timber meadow
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
hushed barn
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i too, am coping

gusty mirage
hexed willow
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guaranteed 10% movement speed is nice for keys/raid

gusty mirage
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you're nice for keys/raid

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how about that

hexed willow
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I try to be

bitter trout
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Does anyone have race sims for assa to hand?

hexed willow
bitter trout
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Ohh tyty

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And how does assa do with simming on Dungeon slice?

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Is it decently accurate?

vast loom
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@balmy condor with old 4p would i want to not pool during the 40% nature amp?

storm forum
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
bitter trout
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I thought night elf would sim a lot better than that, I presume it's taking into account the restealth value

slim hamlet
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How much does 4pc usually do in dungeons?

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Percentage vise

chrome mirage
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100%

slim hamlet
chrome mirage
slate forge
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!wa

lucid rain
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I think he posted a damage breakdown with 4p in it

celest helm
stiff kernel
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Throne prayers have been heard

zinc willow
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Hey anyone have advice on what to macro my trinkets to? I have a mydas and mirror.

austere fulcrum
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Guys does anyone knows, which one to re-craft first is better dps, toxic boots or or patched item ?

fervent jasper
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Is there a weakaura that will put the Caustic Spatter debuff really big above an enemy nameplate so I can find it real easy after tab targeting to something else?

stiff kernel
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Can be done with weakauras, plater, probably OmniCC?

fervent jasper
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Those all show everything

fervent jasper
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I only care about CS

stiff kernel
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Just make a weak aura and set anchor to nameplate, not home but I can’t imagine it would@be more than that, under display tab

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Go test on a training dummy

balmy condor
timber meadow
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we break 4 set and go 2-2 ya? my dmg felt weaker but i think thats cuase i was missing waking stats after i got new chest

feral merlin
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hey fellow rogues, is there a way to generate some CP before the start of an MM+?

timber meadow
fervent jasper
austere fulcrum
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I would say u go 4p if u have regardless,

timber meadow
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like old 4pc over new 2-2

austere fulcrum
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New

timber meadow
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i dont

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i have new 2

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was wondering about breaking old

austere fulcrum
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Aaa

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Yes

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U should

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Go 2p/2p

stiff kernel
# fervent jasper Did that and it didn't change anything

Unfortunately not@home to test but should really be that easy, trigger set to nameplate instead of target or else once you stop targeting it will disappear, type set to debuff and at the bottom show should be aura found, display tab anchor to nameplate (may have to play with X and Y after to position where you want it)

timber meadow
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kk thx!

dark token
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Praying for the 489 nick of time in vault this week 🙏

austere fulcrum
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We all do

runic hinge
fluid glade
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im out flightstones

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help

dark token
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Obviously the toxic boots

solid void
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Sigh... i've been smashing target dummy for 1h now and my kingsbane still ranges from 1m to 2m damage... without me understanding why the variance is so high.

dark token
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Patch doesn't scale and has no dmg proc

solid void
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Any tips on how to go forensic on my own ass and really properly analyze it

solid void
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Is that the diff you think?

dark token
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Poison procs are also rnt

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Sometimes u proc a poison bomb

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And ur KB gets giga

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Sometimes u miss ur autos

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It's all rng mate

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Just make sure you are 100% envenom uptime and shiv uptime

solid void
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Ok

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and improve garrote

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and crimson tempest if I can?

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or just slap envenom all night long

fluid glade
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100% shiv uptime? how do i get that nahh

royal lantern
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by pressing shiv 2x

stiff kernel
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Is it a bug or intended that you cannot cloak the arcane grip on the mage boss of everbloom

fluid glade
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100% uptime? shiii

fervent jasper
stiff kernel
# fervent jasper

Change unit to nameplate, and in the other one maybe try unchecking the parent anchor cause I can’t see if it’s in a group or not you cut it off

fluid glade
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i see jpc not rly pooling at all he'll just send at like 60% energy, (even when hes not having to do mechanics) is he really losing that much dmg from sanguine? assuming u keep 100% uptime on envenom, and bleeds

dusk summit
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Whats the command to show the WA?

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!wa

dusk summit
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nvm

placid snow
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Do we use crimson Tempest om single target?

dusk summit
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No that I know of.

gilded oasis
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no

placid snow
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Ty

bronze echo
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hey, just thought about gearing my assa again after 2 years, can someone dumb the rotation down a bit in m+?

full summit
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is it wise to run caustic splatter on fyrakk or na

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?

stiff kernel
proper igloo
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we stay with old 4p till new 4p or go 2and2

warped bone
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do you get master assassin out of shadowmeld?

strange python
gilded oasis
sage grove
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2 and 2 kinda blends well together too

stiff kernel
strange python
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i havent even started with branch yet

severe sparrow
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if i macro my sd and kb together, do i have to press the button twice or did i somehow write this macro wrong?

strange python
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outlaw rerolling

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and then i have to farm BRH

severe sparrow
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cuz it keeps only popping sd

strange python
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for rings

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kill me

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end me

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free me

stiff kernel
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Lmao

sage grove
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I'll start worrying with branch once I can finally replace my story weapons with M+ ones

stiff kernel
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I got both rings already so you’re telling me I should just go Outlul?

strange python
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no BRH has sin bis rings

stiff kernel
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Oh then I’m Pogging

lavish wing
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branch is fckin haaaard to hit in mechaniiics

arctic hare
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Whats the thingy to see the gear drops from everything?

strange python
stiff kernel
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I’d rather the crab tbh

strange python
arctic hare
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!gear

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worth a shot.

stiff kernel
lucid rain
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⚙️

strange python
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wa

stiff kernel
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I’d almost rather not know

icy acorn
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behold

strange python
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thats gonna be me

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by midnight tonight

stiff kernel
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Not even 480 bud go back to grinding

strange python
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fuck it

strange python
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one more to go

icy acorn
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so i have to wait until wednesday

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lmao

stiff kernel
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Lol

sage grove
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don't we only have like 2 dungeons we can get weps from?

icy acorn
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but surely i get another on in my vault PogO

stiff kernel
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One

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There is one dungeon

sage grove
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i thought we could get weps from atal too

stiff kernel
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My mythic tracked vault gear is going to be tier legs that I already got I’m calling it now

icy acorn
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imagine 3 boots in 3x 20 vault

strange python
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vs ingra, should i spam FoK when spears are up?

willow prairie
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!dagger

slim hamlet
stiff kernel
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Unless they’re that tightly clumped prob not

proven jasper
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No

north jetty
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On Fyrakk are you guys just training the boss during add phase?

bronze marsh
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I spatter off the big adds and they dumpster the small ones

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kb lines up for each one

buoyant herald
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does stealth-empowered garotte have a different spell id?

chrome mirage
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First run of this place this season

fallow acorn
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nice

sacred parcel
rancid bane
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is hekili reliable for the st rotation? Testing out it right now and it seems off

stiff kernel
rancid bane
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Didn't think so

balmy condor
slim pebble
golden flare
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Uhm, does anyone know why raidbots add PI to myself when I sim ST on target dummy?

rancid bane
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See it works perfectly for enhancement so I had hopes

slim pebble
valid whale
balmy condor
icy iron
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DHT 19 :OO 1st pull with big bear is just WTFeyes

golden flare
slim pebble
balmy condor
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the dimensionality makes it difficult

sacred parcel
icy iron
slim pebble
celest helm
celest helm
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weird wonder why it didnt go off for you

slate crown
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Huh, this is curious

icy iron
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theres ur breakdown

celest helm
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wtf why is your sudden demise so low

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holy shit lol

icy iron
celest helm
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very interesting breakdown

slate crown
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(This has been true forever) when I cast spells and abilities on a dummy, my auto attack begins.

When I cast Kingsbane on a dummy when I'm not attacking already, my auto attack does not begin

icy iron
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cus it's a 19 fortified.

grand trail
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so how is that signet trinket doing? im deciding between sending sandglass or signet

slate crown
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Doubt that has any real impact

icy iron
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Sudden demise doesn't do much in high keys really.

slate crown
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!bugs

prisma monolithBOT
icy iron
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They have so much Hp

celest helm
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idk sudden demise has done alot for me in all my high keys

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wonder if i have details up still from any

icy iron
celest helm
icy iron
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And that means smaller caustics too overall.

celest helm
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yeah i guess sudden demise is lower than i thought

icy iron
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Yeah its just not really executing for much cus mobs have so much HP in higher keys

celest helm
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im not worried much about KB caustics since nothing lives long enough in these low keys this week for a full ramp KB

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even in 22-23s mobs die out so fast

icy iron
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The bear lived for it completely 👀

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was pog

celest helm
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the bear always giga snaps from 35 to 0

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but my groups lately have been having a havoc DH in all of them too so the combo of havoc and assass just shreds packs to fast

golden flare
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New to rogue/assa. Sanguine blades, do I have to stay above 50% energy all the time, or just when I'm applying garrote and rupture?

icy iron
celest helm
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its a passive itll just exist when you are there

golden flare
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but on bosses?

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just ignore aswell?

icy iron
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And then on single target, u can play around pooling i guess. I do.

golden flare
eternal heath
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Man fuck demon hunters lol

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1.2m dps on trash pack just before first boss of Fall

vast basin
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when are you supposed to get pi as sin

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kingsbane?

spice surge
icy iron
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they dont snapshot or anything like that with sanguine

vast basin
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I see, thanks

dull cloak
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2 branches just dropped in my 20

slate crown
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Collapsible groups: In ✅
Sound options for all ticks: In ✅
Support for Ashes trinket: In ✅
New version up: https://wago.io/8WWlvpYa9

dull cloak
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and they can't trade to me ;/

arctic tusk
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if you send DM on opener on gnarlroot mythic will it be back for dmg amp phase

light goblet
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Anyone have a good WA for the branch trinket?

spice surge
slate crown
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!wa

hexed willow
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Does shiv pandemic? Or should you let it fall off before reapplying during KB

slate crown
#

Shiv does not pandemic afaik

quiet oar
#

I press, when Bar says press

#

No thinking

light goblet
eternal heath
#

tragic

fallow acorn
#

i feel u

weak crescent
#

12 everblooms today

#

no twinket yet :/

craggy seal
weak crescent
#

😭

#

i have started theory crafting

#

what if i do everblooms back to back

#

until reset

lucid rain
#

god damn it

craggy seal
weak crescent
#

the game will regognize i want something from it

#

and give it in the vault

slate crown
slim hamlet
#

Are people still gaming arterial build with 4pc for m+?

#

Hybrid seems crisp considering u do a lot more envenoms

junior aurora
#

really depends on if your kingsbane target can live

slim hamlet
#

I wonder how tyran week will feel as sin

junior aurora
#

like you go AP build and just barely use kingsbane lol

slim hamlet
#

Like boss dmg is rly nice, but feel like KB in aoe is just gonna blow up main target and do nothing else

slate crown
#

Yeah it already feels like that on fort

slim hamlet
#

yep

slate crown
#

so uhh idn we just bleed vibing until we really have a big boy to kill?

grand trail
#

do we have some opinion on sandglass vs signet? is signet still rng option_?

slate crown
#

like bears / time eles

still steppe
#

anyone hates witherbark branch or isit just me

slate crown
slate crown
slim hamlet
slate crown
#

start to love the bloop

still steppe
slate crown
#

"find" them?

still steppe
#

and buffs drops off right before my last kb tick

slate crown
#

My friend, do not use your eyes

still steppe
#

im here struggling

grand trail
#

the branch trinket with heavy movment on fyrrak HC was kinda pain in the ass ngl

slim hamlet
#

U gotta have an astral connection to your balls

#

U gotta feel them

#

not see them

grand trail
#

kinda sus that i cant use my mythic dagger

#

the cost of upgrading it not worth

junior aurora
#

why not

grand trail
#

this is my best option with dagger

#

vs best overall

junior aurora
#

fair enough

slim hamlet
#

upgrading wrist more worth

grand trail
#

the gain going from 483 and 480 nick of time into 489 normal and 483 nick of time in offhand is only 800 dps in cost of 45 aspects

#

wrist are next week 476 upgrade from 447 (craft)

junior aurora
#

oh thats bc if you already have two nick of times

#

no point in using mythic dagger

prisma creek
grand trail
#

well there is point but its too expesnive rn

icy agate
#

He got you good

slim hamlet
#

pvp i think

#

no nvm just a full on jebait

#

"Assassination
Kingsbane initial and periodic damage now reduced by 20% (was 11%) in PvP combat." This was the pvp

slim hamlet
#

Yea u got, got

prisma creek
#

fuck me

slim hamlet
stiff kernel
#

All I can say is if you want guaranteed safety that you’ll be ok patch after patch, play a mage

#

Otherwise it’s just a matter of time

slim hamlet
#

Mage kinda meh in raid at least ngl

split veldt
#

what does the 20 mean

stiff kernel
#

Yeah, till everything gets nerfed so they go to the top again

slim hamlet
stiff kernel
#

Balancing is done around mage performance

stuck seal
split veldt
#

it's the devlin pack

stiff kernel
# split veldt what does the 20 mean

Open the weak aura and check the text under display, if it says %2 or %3 or whatever, that’s the number the trigger is, go cross reference the trigger page and see what it’s seeing

#

Probably be like %2.p or something

slim hamlet
#

I am trying to think

split veldt
slim hamlet
#

and I can't think of a single thing that makes sense

twilit parcel
#

Do we really use Ambush at all in our rotation ?

stiff kernel
stiff kernel
#

(Or only trigger)

twilit parcel
#

Ah my bad.

#

I misread, wrong ability haha.

split veldt
twilit parcel
#

I'm very, VERY new at Rogue. STarted today. Inarius_Shy

slim hamlet
#

idk a progress text for that makes no sense

stiff kernel
# split veldt

Should just be how long the debuff is on the target for then

#

When you cast it does it start counting down?

slim hamlet
#

but dm is 16?

balmy condor
#

in setting weakauras gives you a countdown from 20

#

regardless of what the actual duration is

split veldt
#

yeah from 16 seconds

slim hamlet
#

So why does it exist

split veldt
#

but now it's counting up

balmy condor
#

jank

slim hamlet
#

bruh

#

wat

#

Delete the text idk

#

it's useless

real inlet
#

!wa

split veldt
#

its def not counting seconds, it's counting like poision applications or something

devout prism
#

Is it your rupture agi stacks?

split veldt
#

when i envemon, it resets the counter

stiff kernel
#

Might be some weird logic

slim hamlet
severe sparrow
#

larodar can suck a fat one for jumping away all the time

split veldt
#

yean idk, i just installed the devlin pack from the wa list lmao

#

i like it, i just dont know wtf this nubmer is for

slim hedge
slim hamlet
#

Just turn the nubmer off tbh

severe sparrow
#

i havent stopped inting myself there tbh

slim hamlet
#

I kept inting myself until we killed it

slim hedge
#

Disgusting boss

real inlet
#

any weakaura wizard that is familiar with the custom stuff for the improved garrote?

slim hamlet
#

Would rather use on cd and lose a bit of uptime on it than lose a cast because idk the kill timer then

slim hamlet
devout prism
#

Does dBm/big wigs have a timer for his jump

twilit parcel
#

Do we even use this..?

slim hamlet
#

And now that energy matters even more niche

prisma creek
#

if you outa range, capped at energy and want to maintain poisons, yes... otherwise... no

slim hedge
twilit parcel
slim hamlet
#

Can't think of a single time u would ever consider clicking it

compact flint
#

Any pros and cons playing AP or DtB?

slim hamlet
#

no

twilit parcel
slim hamlet
prisma creek
candid geyser
#

someone save me from this prison pls

slim hamlet
#

But AP is good everywhere tbh

#

AP cranks, but just specially lower keys

slim hamlet
compact flint
#

Sweet, will test it ty

candid geyser
#

surely on this run... #20

#

we lucky

#

yo @slim hamlet maybe we just get in vault for all our effort?

slim hamlet
#

I think so

#

And branch on our first m+ after that

#

trust

candid geyser
#

I got branch... took 14 runs

slim hamlet
#

They're just edgeing us

prisma creek
#

there is a timeline where we do... all we have to figure out is how to shadowstep there...

eternal heath
#

So found out that DH from earlier was 459 with 483 branch and a sandglass on top of S2 4pc lol

slim hamlet
#

I haven't even done super many runs, but I have been in queue prison instead

#

just bumped my ilvl by 6 and got 4pc in raid 3 hours ago tho

#

So easier invites

candid geyser
#

i grinded 2k before farming pieces, got on io train early, ez invites joining 17s

#

maybe i did it backwards idk

slim hamlet
#

Yea I got 2k right before the raid too

candid geyser
#

dagger hates me tho, that's for sure

slim hamlet
#

thats how I secured the 3pc for the 4pc

eternal heath
#

I feel like I should try to get a council or larodar kill tonight

languid summit
proper forum
#

In vault

slate crown
slate crown
blissful forge
#

Back2Back NoT on 470, life is good 😎

junior aurora
#

hero track?

steel spire
#

MonkaSub we dodge nerfs first week?

blissful forge
#

only missing the axe and the hourglass trinket now from Fall x)

blissful forge
junior aurora
#

nice

blissful forge
#

already upped both to 483

sage grove
#

oi who's stealing all my groups for galakron's fall?

woven helm
#

!dagger

umbral summit
#

what's the pandemic logic for refreshing empowered bleeds?

sage grove
#

btw to anyone running galakrond's fall u can shadowmeld/ vanish the big circle iridikron uses if it targets you

mellow juniper
#

Anyone know when wowanalyzer might be updated?

sage grove
#

and it will cancel his cast and nobody takes damage

proven jasper
sage grove
#

not the soak mechanic

#

the one before soak

proven jasper
#

Ah just the dmg part

#

Thats still kinda nutty

sage grove
#

yep

#

avoids the DOT on you

proven jasper
#

Yeah

sage grove
#

and stops chromie from taking damage

umbral summit
#

I don't want to rehaul my entire UI just to play Assa

hollow iron
#

Yo I'm picking up assa as an alt and was wondering which m+ build would be the best to run? There's a few in the wowhead guide, looks like a choice mostly between Arterial Shock and Hybrid, what would you guys recommend

proper forum
#

Just sim I personally use arterial shock

candid geyser
#

@slim hamlet 0/20 on dagger sadge.

proven jasper
slate crown
sudden brook
#

What the fuck

#

Is this spatter talent

#

Hello

balmy condor
#

it's blade flurry

#

not sure if you know what that is

#

so basically

#

how blade flurry works

#

is when you hit the button

#

any damage you deal

#

cleaves to nearby enemies

dark token
# sudden brook

He's unfamiliar with abilities on main target splashing to nearby targets

#

And being >40% of ur aoe

#

Probably because this ability isn't capped

swift magnet
#

JPC is opener atm is Gar > rupt > ambush > snd > dm > shiv > dance+kb> gar > envenom mut/ambush rupt
is it not interesting?

balmy condor
#

I'm not very interested by that

dark token
#

Pretty sure it varies

#

And he usually does garrote ambush rupture

deep lily
#

we still running wafting?

balmy condor
#

yes

sudden brook
#

Yeah but like

#

this talent is broken

#

Blade flurry is balanced and honest

balmy condor
#

yes

#

ofc

swift magnet
balmy condor
#

the only difference between spatter and blade flurry

#

is that assa has burst

sudden brook
#

Yeah its OP dude

proven jasper
#

you look alot cooler playing one of them also

swift magnet
proven jasper
#

so yes

#

Go with the flow

proven jasper
ashen sun
#

How big of an increase is the tier set in aoe situations compared to the aberus set?

balmy condor
#

depends on way too many things

slim hamlet
candid geyser
#

Just a random question because im loosing my mind...
Someone has looted this dagger as assassination loot spec right!? 😮

storm forum
#

some people have posted screenshots but I think theyre photoshopped

sudden brook
proven jasper
#

Fr

slim hamlet
#

it's fake

candid geyser
#

stealthi has like 12 of them

slim hamlet
#

Put in the journal to lead us rats into a trap

shut owl
#

This dagger?

odd flax
#

somehow my 467 mirror is simming less than a 447 dice (off trinket is 470 branch), is that reliable

rare jackal
shut owl
#

its fantastic, and locked at 450 so completely useless lol

shut owl
#

0.05% of my overall damage 😄

balmy condor
#

cause it's double on-use

#

and that's shit

candid geyser
rare jackal
#

oh

#

thanks

arctic tusk
#

is this waht gnarlroot is supposed to look like

#

and will show on dmg details?

twilit parcel
#

Any Macros to re-apply poisons, or do I have to manualy apply 4 poisons.

#

Wish they had given us a runeforge-esque system, so they were perma-etched into the daggers.

final laurel
#

I’m ilvl 370 doing a +8 ataldazar

#

Am I supposed to be doing like 0 dps

twilit parcel
shut owl
#

370 pretty low

fervent jasper
#

is this trinket any good?

slim hamlet
#

370 is like shadowlands gear

balmy condor
short comet
#

!up

shut owl
#

yeah, you can get 430ish from world stuff, and 450's from time rift/dreamsurge tokens

fervent jasper
balmy condor
#

oh

final laurel
#

I just feel like I’m doing something wrong

balmy condor
#

well then a used napkin is better

keen spruce
final laurel
#

I don’t think I’ve ever been this low ilvl in dungeons so idk the experience

twilit parcel
#

I honestly just bought AH BoE Green / Blue gear, full 424.

fervent jasper
balmy condor
#

sim

twilit parcel
#

Got this beauty today.

#

The use still confuses me though.

storm forum
#

my brother in 1% reduced damage taken

balmy condor
storm forum
#

and dying to going to throne of the tides

slim hamlet
#

Honestly mechanical is underrated af

#

for m+

storm forum
#

is mechanical the cheat death?

twilit parcel
#

I mean i tried on target dummy, self-heal 10% HP per 3 min if taken below 30% HP is a nice save.

slim hamlet
#

It only procs when it actually matters, doesn't help a lot but much better than anything else

#

imo

slim hamlet
#

It did a lot of healing over a dungeon

twilit parcel
#

The cheapskate death KEKW

slim hamlet
#

and considering it only works when it matters

#

I'll take it

twilit parcel
#

Love that the buff Is Perma unless canceled.

ashen sun
#

2 waftings or just 1?

slim hamlet
#

Whatever the sims tell u

storm forum
#

sim it

arctic tusk
#

can someone show what a ST dmg profile should look like

#

or is a sim profile good enough

slim hamlet
#

What u mean

arctic tusk
slim hamlet
#

dmg breakdown?

arctic tusk
#

like is this accurate

#

yeah

#

i meant that

slim hamlet
#

Depends on fight

twilit parcel
arctic tusk
#

this is just a 5 man paotchwerk sim

twilit parcel
#

And your Ilvl / Gear..?

slim hamlet
#

My smolderon

#

My tindral

#

They change so much depending on fight

twilit parcel
#

You makin me drool

slim hamlet
#

Nymue which I guess is as ST as it gets besides volocross but I didn't have any gear on that

rancid crypt
#

i saw someone do fyrakk on hc, and that person didn't apply rupture before burst DM/Dance/bane etc. He used it after. so instead of the top one, he used envenom then DM etc and waited with rupture after burst?

#

He skipped the top one and used bottom instead, does it really matter if u apply one before burst?

#

Since u replace it anyway?

balmy condor
#

sounds like just a standard accelerated opener

rancid crypt
balmy condor
#

I mean it's worse

#

but the ramp is faster

slim hamlet
#

What fight we using that opener even. Used it on fyrakk but idk if it's good for anything else

slim hamlet
#

The accelerated one

#

no rup until dance

shut owl
#

odd question: does sudden demise cleave its damage through caustic?

slim hamlet
#

huh?

#

Isn't demise only bleed

shut owl
#

derp, yeah pardon me

tough whale
#

!wa

shut owl
#

tired brain from too many keys

slim hamlet
#

Understandable

#

currently in everbloom prison at 4am

shut owl
#

specifically back to back ToT/DHT with folks learning the keys

shut owl
#

because I'm cursed to never have a key that I need gear from

#

I did 6 thrones today Sad

slim hamlet
#

oh god

#

The nerfs incoming is looking nice for throne tho

shut owl
#

yeh

slim hamlet
#

I think ozumat will be absolutely dogshit boss on tyran tho

arctic tusk
#

on igira mythic

#

just hit boss instead of spears

#

spatter will cleave?

slim hamlet
#

Depends on spear setup

shut owl
#

I'm suspecting my guild secretly hates me at this point though. I've run more ToT than anyone should for guildies... but I've done 1 galakrond fall with guild... but somehow we've got loot from 11 galakronds today without me in them

slim hamlet
#

General feel on PTR was that spatter was just too low range

balmy condor
#

caustic goodge

arctic tusk
#

anybody got a visual

#

for how far spatter oges

#

goes

balmy condor
#

caustic got ranged buffed since ptr

slim hamlet
#

oh

balmy condor
#

it's hitting spears just fine

slim hamlet
#

I didn't even know that

#

Poggers

arctic tusk
#

ok so just hit boss

balmy condor
#

they do have to be kinda close

shut owl
#

nice

slim hamlet
#

Well damn

balmy condor
#

this was a 50% wipe

shut owl
#

I'm still running IB until my guild stops dropping them 30 yards out and making the preservation evoker cry

slim hamlet
#

Not even 4pc yet

balmy condor
#

yeah

#

2/2

slim hamlet
#

Rough out there

#

Couldn't be me

balmy condor
#

can't parse gnarlroot without 4pc

slim hamlet
#

Got into the cool kids club 5 hours ago

shut owl
#

I can't wait to see... any tier 😄

#

or gear

slim hamlet
#

I did grind 2k for it tho

#

Would prob have been more worth to be in everbloom prison

opal helm
#

after our first ST CD sequence do i save vanish to apply improved bleeds for deathmark or do i use it last three seconds of KB?

balmy condor
#

read guide

shut owl
#

the FAQ just has blue words though, what do they mean

twilit parcel
#

Do i just stay on 1 target In M+ and my dots / Bleeds & poisons spread?

slate crown
#

yo that was easier than I thought it would be. subregions are still a mess because you kind of have to just redefine each one every time but I can work with it

twilit parcel
#

Or do I gotta swap targets alot..?

silver arrow
#

Whispyr has a aoe rotation vid on youtube

#

should answer that

twilit parcel
#

I read his Wowhead article, seems like most stuff will spread on its own.

silver arrow
#

To note, this was recorded late thursday night before my raid testing group fell apart

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sage grove
#

dayum, all my kingsbanes are hitting around 700k-1.2ish million damage max, is that small peepee or big peepee?

lucid rain
#

did tindral for the first time just now on normal

#

I love how his character just gives no fucks

sage grove
#

I'll take it 🙂

crisp grotto
#

exhausted all my luck for the vault tomorrow starege found nick of time , hourglass and branch within 24 hours of each other

lavish brook
#

Are we supposed to do this 2nd rupture in an AoE opener

sage grove
lavish brook
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crisp grotto
#

I ran like 40 keys

#

It was horrible

sage grove
#

I just got my first weapon this season after 30+ dungeons

arctic tusk
#

how much energy do we wann be at before DM or KB

eternal heath
#

oo very good to replace my 437

sage grove
#

nice

crisp grotto
fervent apex
sage grove
slate crown
#

It'll be in the released version as an option once I'm done

sage grove
fervent apex
crisp grotto
#

2ez 4 set tomorrow as well that’s exciting

fleet pagoda
#

is time strike canceling stealth for anybody else? sbs on a dummy is sometimes proccing time strike while i'm out of combat and it puts me out of stealth

wind falcon
#

does anyone recommend a good M+ WA pack?

eternal heath
#

15 WM, that dungeon kinda sucks with sanguine

slim hamlet
#

right but also wrong

gentle rover
slim hamlet
#

every dungeon sucks with sanguine*

eternal heath
#

truee

#

I also am super unfamiliar with the place

#

So was eating cleaves left and right accidentally

#

requiring tier for a 15 ConcernedPoliwhirl

arctic tusk
twilit parcel
#

Sadge when mobs in low keys die before i get to ramp up

slim hamlet
sage grove
slim hamlet
#

U don't understand how bad people are at this game

shut owl
#

I got kicked for ilvl too low (450) from a 14 kek

eternal heath
#

I also feel like AD with an aug is kinda rough

slim hamlet
#

I get nervous when I see a 12

shut owl
#

just wait until wracking pain is uninterruptible again tomorrow; we're going back to AD's dark BFA days

eternal heath
#

But it no longer gives a dot right

slim hamlet
#

Idk how that is the change they decided on

#

Seems so extremely random

shut owl
#

its still a dot

eternal heath
#

I hardly touched BFA, so I am unfamiliar with the dungeons

shut owl
#

just not a dispell/purgable one kek

#

on BFA launch it was a run ender

slim hamlet
#

Does anyone know if it is like rotating target

#

or is it just an angle of RNG

shut owl
#

then they made it kickable cuz it was impossible

slim hamlet
#

5 casts onto same person gg

shut owl
#

and now they've gone back to that lol