assassination

[keen spruce]

ducc good player

[knotty pumice]

A french guy assa player here ?

[keen spruce]

idk snug that well. just talked in disc a few times

[fallen forge]

whoever wrote that description is the greatest troll of this patch

[strange python]

It's a reference to the good place

Which is ironic cause 50 runs is the bad place

[fallen forge]

[winter gale]

Notter’s helper WA glows on 6sec remaining for Tea and 3sec remaining for?

Vanish Garrote?

Also, when Shiv glows thats the time for us to reapply?

In the same WA*

[storm forum]

I don't remember if it glows for tea, but yeah, shiv glows when it's time to shiv, and KB glows when it's time to vanish for MA.

[torn peak]

anyone did decent dps with 0 set pieces?

[storm forum]

I'm doing OK with old 4 set

[keen spruce]

well season 2 set pieces

was still cranking

[devout prism]

you can catalyze old tier set for free with older ilvl stuff if you don't have anything

[fringe surge]

guys, i am the only one who is not accepted in keys ?

[bleak sun]

Same doing OK dps with old 4set cant decide if i break it for 2p/2p

[fringe surge]

i am 1901 rating and get decline in m17

rogue got some nerfs last days

?

[storm forum]

Top 3 dps last night on H Tindral. Absolutely cranking in m+. 459ish ilvl

[glossy imp]

I’m 458 and 1800 I got declined too. People are just being picky as fuck

[devout prism]

nope people just want BM DH AUG

[glossy imp]

2700 last season

[fringe surge]

jeez

i had 2986 last season

ans still not invite

its cringe

[glossy imp]

Its very cringe my guy

[torn peak]

i wanna know how hard u can go with literally 0 pieces

[glossy imp]

I’ve seen groups get 60 applicants and a lot of them are good

[winter gale]

I opt for guild/friend/community grps for the start of each tier. If possible ofc

[glossy imp]

So people are just being overly selective but it’ll smooth out soon

[raw raft]

Any nerf incoming doomers in chat

Pls just don’t make kingsbane unplayable thx

[keen spruce]

like no tier from any raid? just regular ass items?

probably like

quite a bit worse

[storm forum]

We cannot compete with the Shmeeps types who do 100 keys week 1 and have max ilvl and know all the dungeons. We must unionize against the good players with time to play.

[keen spruce]

but still better than a few classes

[torn peak]

yeah

[keen spruce]

[steel spire]

Normies against shmeeps

[keen spruce]

I am a duck of the people

[lethal widget]

Shmeeps hasnt done 100 keys man lol

[keen spruce]

I am not your enemy

[velvet ridge]

Look at this big nick over here

[steel spire]

[lethal widget]

they hate you for no reason shmeepy

[storm forum]

Man must be nice

[raw raft]

I did get nick of time plus heroic Tindral dagger, don’t gotta spark a weapon pog

[storm forum]

To have 2 nick of times

[keen spruce]

yeah RIO only has me down

for 79 keys

rn

[lethal widget]

xD

[keen spruce]

[steel spire]

Oh my bad just 79 you are one of us then

[keen spruce]

a common key doer

a simple bloom farmer

[lethal widget]

I dont even know how many ive done

[raw raft]

I did so little that I didn’t get 2k

But I filled my vault

[steel spire]

5 of bloom and dawn each only for me xd

[velvet ridge]

I actually miss bloom farming

[lethal widget]

I know I cant keep up with you and scana considering I dont raid xD

[keen spruce]

all of this was branch farming

i also kind of miss it

the bloom is kind of a vibe

[dark token]

2.1k almost and I don't get key invites since day 3

[steel spire]

[keen aurora]

I really like bloom. Just tired of getting those damn shoulders

[dark token]

[keen spruce]

maybe you're black listed

cuz u stinky

[steel spire]

Big wigs are online don't bother to q

[lethal widget]

I removed hypz from my group and got death threats

so that was fun

[keen spruce]

I don't even know who that is

[storm forum]

My raid dropped two (2) 2 min Smolderon trinkets and I got one so I'm putting a pause on bloom farming. DotI Fall all night tonight (after genshin dailies)

[lethal widget]

warlock player

[keen spruce]

but I also don't really follow high key people except the cats

[storm forum]

Are the cats back together yet?

[steel spire]

Cats are ethical gamers we salute

[keen spruce]

growl did a few keys last week of the season

[spare dust]

Where do y’all pop WB in your st openers?

[keen spruce]

might have gone back to classic

idk

[storm forum]

Rip

[velvet ridge]

I actually think everbloom and fall are my favorite dungeons of the bunch. I'm glad it's what we need to farm

[lethal widget]

I wanna play classic, but also wanna push because rogue is fun again

[keen spruce]

what is a WB

[solar bramble]

kinda like fall . . . i hate rise

[fallow acorn]

imagine farming Rise/Tides ugh

[spare dust]

The branch my b

[steel spire]

Waycrest kinda litty

[keen spruce]

oh trinkets just get macro'd into deathmark

[velvet ridge]

What's y'alls favorite first pull

[devout prism]

sometimes I do a lower one like 17ish because I think it'll be chill but then I get in there and no one kicks stuns on first pack

[solar bramble]

rise is probably the only one I really detest. . Tides I'm not a fan of that last chaotic room. esp on assassination where you don't get many resets, and mobs are coming in too frequently

[storm forum]

Way crest is cool until you pull through walls/ceilings for the third time that night and wanna scream

[spare dust]

I wasn’t sure if it should be sooner since the little bastards take their time sometimes

[keen spruce]

fall

[steel spire]

Sub gamers

[spice spire]

Source?

[lethal widget]

above 20 bloom first and last boss are real fun as sin xD

[royal lantern]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

[serene wyvern]

heya, is there any haste recomanded for M+ and raiding?

[spice spire]

Over 0

[serene wyvern]

atm i got like 12% for M+ and around 20 in raid

[spice spire]

Don’t look at specific goals

Look at what’s best

[steel spire]

Yea your haste should be 40%

[spice spire]

And adjust accordingly

[steel spire]

Minimum

[spice spire]

[velvet ridge]

True tbh, maybe my favorites cause its what I know best

[storm forum]

Happened on Friday in a medium key. Classic BFA dungeon. Still blasted it.

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/omw-to-spread-misinformation-all-over-the-internet-gif-26525511

[storm forum]

I don't have screen shots or anything, but it was funny

[spice spire]

Nice did you scream

[steel spire]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[storm forum]

I cried and threw up

[spice spire]

Nice

[keen spruce]

okay i need to bedge

[spice spire]

Dog pfp but acts like a cat

[keen spruce]

i will be back in like

..

4 hours

[spice spire]

Go to sleep duck man

[keen spruce]

i gotta do more keys before our OT raid

[storm forum]

You needed to bedge like 8 hours ago

[spice spire]

[keen spruce]

[lethal widget]

shmeeps is a true gmaer

[storm forum]

Good night Shmeeps

I probably won't tell them about the clowns

[keen spruce]

plz don't

she'd probably be embarassed

[velvet ridge]

I need a raiding guild tbh, any of your guilds missing an assassination rogue?

[storm forum]

Stop making it more tempting Shmeeps

[keen spruce]

probably trying to make a good impression

with new guild

[mellow copper]

have anyone actually got nick of time ? 😄

[keen spruce]

[keen flume]

Anyone have like a WA or tips for tracking witherbark trinket. I feel like you can barely see it in alot of the fights.

[keen spruce]

and i'm sabotaging her

[spice spire]

Asking in an assassination chat is wild

[twilit inlet]

I have no tier set whatsoever because my rogue has existed for maybe 3 days of play time. I've done some +12 and I usually finish first dps with 110k DPS. As for raiding, I've always finished 5th with maybe around 75k in ST.

[devout prism]

used to be Rise because I loved getting the perfect opener and bursting like 1mil on everything, but then I got in there with a BM hunter who did like 1.2million just pressing kill command and it made me question everything

[spice spire]

Wtf dog

[storm forum]

I think you're asking in the wrong channel. Lmao

[velvet ridge]

Ugh, dhs too, when they kill things too fast, and your kb never pops

[wet briar]

there are several on wago

[devout prism]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[devout prism]

https://wago.io/q7bHLuILp

[keen flume]

Dude ty

[spice spire]

LE not self promoting (it’s a good weak aura)

[slim hamlet]

That's a first timer

[spice spire]

Nah plenty post their stuff

[heady drum]

any value in macroing that trinket into another ability?

like kb?

[spice spire]

I just like giving them shit

[slim hamlet]

U can into deathmark

[keen flume]

Macro with death mark

[heady drum]

kk

[full depot]

if you dont plan on ever trying to kite the orbs to minmax the buff you can macro it to KB to make sure you have the buff on the last kb tick

idk how much of a loss that is

[devout prism]

lol I figured I'd give him a boost since he seems asleep

[keen flume]

It’s crazy how much damage sin is putting out with caustic spatter

[storm forum]

I'm a big fan of spattering all over them

[normal mist]

What's the "normal" group ILVL to start HC?
Yesterday me and my guild (who downed fyrakk N day 1) tried pushing some heroic bosses, we managed to get 3 down but the horseman guy was a nightmare. We have 450 overall as a group.

[spice spire]

Dog?

[winter gale]

What’s most used M+ build atm?

[winter gale]

Shock or Hybrid?

[keen flume]

Casually 80k above the next person lol

[vast patio]

I love how bm can just afk for top damage.

[devout prism]

https://mplus.subcreation.net/assassination-rogue.html

shock more common but hybrid more in higher keys

[storm forum]

I've been preferring hybrid, but shock is too funny in lower keys

[vast patio]

I wanna try sin, but no second dagger yet :c

[winter gale]

And utilitarian is not an option for more exped ppl?

[devout prism]

it's like 2% according to that site

but only used at a maximum of 20. it's not a complete sample size for sure but it's a good indicator

[storm forum]

I think util, or a variation of it, is good if there's a specific mechanic you want to play around. Like I think FH would have been great for it between the traps, spinny mobs and shark boss, but I don't know the current dungeons well enough yet to know for this season.

[proper forum]

Is caustic spatter proximity based off target or player?

[storm forum]

I think it's 10 yards from the target

[proper forum]

Ty

[spice surge]

Its 12

[storm forum]

Oops

[proper forum]

Ty

[vapid sierra]

What boss?

[devout prism]

yesterday night I pulled raal from the hallway door using shiv with AP

why can't IC have that kind of range lol

[vapid sierra]

For fights with cleave most people just spec into caustic and call it a day right? No talent changes apart that?

[rocky sluice]

so I have double on use trinkets... the branch and ashes of embersouls

which do i use first in my deathmark operner with pi? ol

[vapid sierra]

Branch

I would branch

[storm forum]

That's what I've been doing.

[bronze marsh]

that's what I've been doing and it feels pretty solid

[vapid sierra]

What about spreading rupture tho?

Are you guys holding dance or smth?

[bronze marsh]

Its like 3k dps loss in pure st for me I think so the tradeoff is worth if you're getting the spatter cleave

[magic wolf]

Do you go full Single target on council Boss or Do you dot all ?

[vapid sierra]

3 targets is weird for sin

[nova flax]

I played full ST build with spatter and just multidotted

[vapid sierra]

I’d assume you’d play a hybrid

[bronze marsh]

for us mobs aren't living long enough for multidotting to be worth

[sterile perch]

noob question, but for kingsbane it says for each lethal poison applied it increases kb dmg. what skills are considered lethal poisons exactly?

[bronze marsh]

only on heroic prog atm

[nova flax]

Deadly poison and amplifying poison

And technically instant poison. But dont use that one. It smells.

And wound poison. But thats for pvp noobs

[storm forum]

IC range nerf is so fucked for council. They're just barely out of range for IC so I'm not taking it. I think I'll play the Sbs build with spatter next time I go in there.

[magic wolf]

@nova flax so you used garrote and rupture on All 3 bosses?

[leaden timber]

Are we supposed to play around Sanguine when out of Kingsbane and spam during Kingsbane Burst?

[nova flax]

I wouldnt bother with IC on council honestly

[sterile perch]

i see ok thanks! so is that why it's important to have envenom buff up as much during kb? cause it increases the chance for those poisons to hit thus increasing kb dmg in the end?

[storm forum]

I think DoTs on at least 2 targets, sometimes 3rd if it's convenient but I'm not going out of my way to lose uptime and take a million damage walking through vines.

[earnest remnant]

IC goes brrrt

[storm forum]

Yeah after playing it I'm not bothering with it next week.

[nova flax]

I did a single target opener and used my dance to spread 1 garrote to urctos who was near pip. Honestly dont worry about it too much. Ull be more useful hitting the highest health target than trying to act like a boomkin

[nova flax]

Yes

[magic wolf]

What is IC ?

[leaden timber]

Indiscriminate Carnage

[storm forum]

Indiscriminate Carnage

It's a talent that duplicates rupture and garote to nearby enemies during and slightly after stealth.

[raven echo]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[nova flax]

The problem with council is theyre only ever stacked on the pull. And then its sorta random where they jump off to

Ull probably get good IC value on pull but after that its sorta hoping that they all end up together so u can utilize it again and its just fuckin annoying. Play ST build with spatter

[keen reef]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[hoary remnant]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[oak tangle]

i mean empowered dots on 2 targets not considered worth? you lose 5% poison crit chance and some energy when they crit

[earnest remnant]

id say IC is worth it yeh

[oak tangle]

but, can i IC my quack

important question

[agile gull]

Hey Guys. Why is rupture not refreshed during deathmark in the openers (just at the very end). Dont we loose the 2nd rupture like that ?

[oak tangle]

not sure what you mean about losing a second

[agile gull]

Doesnt deathmark only Double the debuffs it Applied during deathmark ?

[oak tangle]

DM doesn't need reapplication to double dots, and the doubled dots dont continue when dm ends

[agile gull]

Aaaaah ok then it reads wrong

The tooltip I mean

[oak tangle]

i can see how it's read wrong, but yeah it duplicates all applied ruptures / garrotes and poisons

you can probably read it as, "garrote" , "rupture" and "lethal poisons applied"

[nova flax]

How many people are running it? Imo ull get value on pull. Then the fight is a crapshoot

[torn peak]

sounds similar to what i had experienced

having no set/ashe/daggers prolly affects alot

i cant compete with purple class

[oak tangle]

67%

[smoky horizon]

Aight; who else has killed themselves more then once on Gnarlroot with Shadowstep raise your hand

[devout prism]

shadowstep a friendly melee player instead of the boss 🙂

[slim hamlet]

idek what u mean with that

[true flume]

more than once? brother

[agile gull]

Yeah I read it as verb rather than adverb

[oak tangle]

who and how are people killing themselves shadowstepping gnarlroot

[devout ingot]

man kiting branch around is degen

gonna just put that trinket in the bank

[shell raven]

Do you kingsbane then DM? Or it doesnt make a difference

[devout ingot]

dm first

[smoky horizon]

How is not hard; I relied on other people breaking it sooner then they were able and stepped into the deathzone

[bronze marsh]

was on Larodar last night and water orbs are impossible to see

[slate crown]

no see

do not use your eyes

[devout prism]

use the force

[ripe basin]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nJ3rHAVPTUtEk1g9cyGm8i ive reached 200k (by 50 dps)

[devout prism]

bro where's the see through one I like that one

[slim hamlet]

U just gotta have an astral connection with your balls

[tawny geyser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH9gKH21Apw&t=162s

Is this guy legit? should I follow his information?

[slim hamlet]

ye

[slate crown]

do you think a bird with a hat like that would just lie to you?

[slim hamlet]

His opener is a lil outdated I believe

[tawny geyser]

Can you point me to the right one? 😄

[oak tangle]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[tawny geyser]

I'm just a bit rusty, haven't played since S1.

[elfin garden]

Does look trustworthy to me

[slim hamlet]

Any guide under rotation

wowhead, icyveins whatever

[peak lake]

pogger, 20 more dj for another one and im good

[bronze marsh]

was doing a lil shimmy-shake kinda like this but the fire patches make it a bit cursed

[empty timber]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[bronze marsh]

I think I'm resigning to hoping for vault Nicks

[oak tangle]

yeah, it would be super chill with long arms, but can be rough in places

[devout ingot]

i got a champion nicks on my first run

so happy

[bronze marsh]

I debated going long arms for larodar

[slim hamlet]

Can't wait to get my nick of time in vault last week of season

[thorn fjord]

im at like 18 Doti's

[bronze marsh]

I spent almost all week farming EB and don't have the strength for doti

[devout ingot]

then did 15 throne of tides for the crab

[thorn fjord]

Got Hour glass and 1 dagger

[oak tangle]

doti is fun, except the disease boss

[slim hamlet]

I am in queue simulator mostly and then 50% of the time it is not even a fall when I get into a group

[thorn fjord]

you can /key to see if they're trying to bamboozle you

Had like 3 groups try that shit

[bronze marsh]

yeah the one doti I did the tank was actively trolling with slime positions

[devout ingot]

^ whats with people puttin in the wrong key

[slim hamlet]

yea

[slim hamlet]

It automatically puts it as fall instead of rise

for no reason

[oak tangle]

it's a bliz issue, not them

[devout ingot]

@slim hamlet i mean ive had other keys as well

this season more than other

i join a pug group, go to the dungeon

and they like "oh its this key"

[slim hamlet]

I have legit never had that happen

[mystic fractal]

feel like it's hard to get value on assa in low keys since ramping on packs takes longer than they take to die below like 15. But i guess damage doesn't really matter since we roll the key anyway and I should just play outlaw if i care or just vibe if i don't right?

[oak tangle]

i mean maybe it's intentional, cause nobody wants to do rise so to get it done somehow

[devout ingot]

ive had it happen like 5 times the past couple days

[slate crown]

u should vibe esp low keys

[bleak ivy]

Shit dies too fast in +20 aswell Trust me

[devout ingot]

@mystic fractal low keys dont matter, just garrote, rupture spread and fan of knives and chill

[shell raven]

Demise helps with damage

[oak tangle]

low keys consist of me talking shit and not paying attention, if you drag your team down with you, you will rise to the top

[flint tusk]

oh brother xD
externals are a hell of a thing.

get your popcorn ready peeps for all the babyraging to follow.

[slim hamlet]

the only way to play low keys is to bleed it up, click arterial, wait until they pulverize with demise

[slate crown]

Yeah just wrack up all bleeds, shiv, and stuff will pop demise and all die

yah

[bleak ivy]

Ive done a few +20 and packs get deleted too fast bruh

[slate crown]

And this is a fort week

[slim hamlet]

Yea I wonder what key level target will actually survive DM + KB

[mystic fractal]

^

[oak tangle]

one major difference, one spec requires good play, the other is bm

[slim hamlet]

Unless there is something like EB abomination in the pack

Probably like +25

[flint tusk]

based/true/real

[bronze marsh]

yeah I just tunnel kb into aboms and watch the fireworks

[bleak ivy]

They made keys easier or what

[devout ingot]

also assass is pretty much getting all the PIs

[bronze marsh]

our PI's are the wild west

[devout ingot]

so the damage is gonna be skewed

[slate crown]

Yeah like, our rotation really isn't like, that terribly complex once you settle into it but like, come on, the amount of effort I feel I have to put into openers compared to BM is wild

[slim hamlet]

I mean it looks like uhdk last season

[bronze marsh]

2 priests, one giving to the UH and the other afk

[devout ingot]

same with unholy

[slim hamlet]

didn't get nerfed idk

[bronze marsh]

two sin rogues getting nothing lol

[flint tusk]

exactly

being the everything target is rather saucy

[oak tangle]

yeh im equal to a pally 10 ilvl higher than me with pi, during my opener. where my pi at

[bronze marsh]

I'm gonna start offering gold for externals at this point lol

[flint tusk]

i had to tell our aug voker he was meant to be buffing me and the other assa rogue and not the frost mage and dev anymore xD

[slim hamlet]

Yea excluding externals outlaw is higher

[flint tusk]

i was like wait wut

[bronze marsh]

my RL still doesn't think I should be in wft group

[vestal wren]

lovely drawing 👍

[oak tangle]

ty 🙂

[slim hamlet]

Classic augvokers not even looking at what they're meant to be doing

[torn peak]

i have 1 spark should i craft life bound belt?

[thorn fjord]

[torn peak]

so i can craft boots next week

[bronze marsh]

"Blood mallet isn't the most accurate"

[flint tusk]

exactly. he's pretty mid though even when he started buffing us he's like mid parse if that

[slim hamlet]

Why not just boots now

[torn peak]

my belt is 402

[slim hamlet]

I finally found a good augvoker in m+ today

[torn peak]

and boots are 452

[slim hamlet]

The 7th aug of this patch in my keys was a decent one

[next token]

I call this piece: The Importance of Shivving Correctly during DM+KB:

[torn peak]

well my offhand is 437 too

[devout ingot]

i mean isnt aug supposed to be buffing people based of cd timers

[slim hamlet]

95% of them dont even track cds

[devout ingot]

i know but thats how theya re "meant" to be played?

[slim hamlet]

Their average playerbase is so bad its wild

[devout ingot]

i didnt play last season

so i never played with augs until this season

[fresh dock]

Okay am I blind does assassination have tricks of the trade?

[next token]

it can

[devout ingot]

yeah its in class tree

right side

2nd row?

[timber meadow]

anyone around who might be able to take a look at my twswift log? I did fairly well on everything cept twswift and smolderon but smolderon i know why i did poorly but twswift, i was even getting pi and i cant figure out why my boss dam was so low

[next token]

people usually take blackjack instead

[slim hamlet]

Played with 3.2k last season aug yesterday that didn't use cd a single time when we did, and he used cds on small elementals in throne

i cant

[fresh dock]

ahhh tyty

[devout ingot]

aug life

the 2nd retirement home, along side bm hunter

[oak tangle]

i feel like aug would be omega easy

[slim hamlet]

U just need to track a single cd for every class and you are top 1% aug

[cunning geyser]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[grand trail]

finally my dungeon farm is over

[oak tangle]

yo can i get those

[next token]

another shall take your place, that is the way

[slim hamlet]

u neeeeed?

[mellow copper]

how many runs of dawn ?

[bronze marsh]

alright now help funnel them to me

[grand trail]

I got two hero daggers from fist 3 runs of dawn

[bronze marsh]

I told our other rogue I'd help him get branch but I think that might be a next week thing

[oak tangle]

ban him

[grand trail]

than i did 25 runs of DHT for neck

[strange niche]

I have 29 runs with 0 daggers, 6 pants and 6 gloves

[grand trail]

and now 10 runs of dawn for trinket

[bronze marsh]

I think I spend more time applying for farm runs than running them

[slim hamlet]

I am without a doubt

[grand trail]

im getting invited a lot

like insta

[slim hamlet]

at least 80% of my farm time is in queu

[bronze marsh]

I was getting denied from 9's

lmao

[slim hamlet]

2k this season 3k last season

can't get into 17's

[bronze marsh]

I'm only at 1k bc I was almost exclusively in eb

gonna get 2k next week though

[grim tangle]

is on use trinket better in the top slot or the bottom slot?

[bronze marsh]

top slot OP

[slim hamlet]

Always bottom

[flint tusk]

that's some tinfoil hat shit right there

[bronze marsh]

you're always bottom

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616

[flint tusk]

@slim hamlet is sub confirmed

[bronze marsh]

[quartz prawn]

Guys wich is best WA for interrupts?

[slim hamlet]

[oak tangle]

is it better in the bottom slot if my macro is /use 13

[slim hamlet]

Yea

[grand trail]

i have this one in case i play sub too

[slim hamlet]

Because then u learn to not just macro it

[oak tangle]

if i don't need it macrod, the macro changes to jsut be /use 13

[slim hamlet]

Isn't branch bis for sub too?

[gleaming geyser]

I hope they make the balls from the branch trinket more visibl

they're so goddamn translucent

[next token]

they are fucking impossible to see in raid

[slim hamlet]

I just hope they make it so u cant see everyone elses

makes legit 0 sense

Since when can u see other peoples trinkets

[fossil girder]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[bronze marsh]

I tried picking up our enh

's

[gleaming geyser]

steal their balls

[bronze marsh]

at one point

[slim hamlet]

Holy

About to be some parsing tech

[oak tangle]

200% mastery lets go

[slim hamlet]

Now everyone is a supp spec

[oak tangle]

I want to use my N fyrakk token and catalyse a piece. but I should also wait till reset

[next token]

You're gonna regret it if you dont at least wait until your chest

[oak tangle]

the issue is i have 437 tier atm

[hexed willow]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7NNQRDF53xJcqnbGksyHvq
If anyone is wondering if they can go Assassination, here are the sims using BIS subtlety gear and BIS outlaw gear (any gear swap noted)

[fossil girder]

I’m sure this is somewhere but can’t find it. Do we go to 2+2 tier or full swap on 4?

[oak tangle]

if we go 2+2 ima quit the game

[velvet zenith]

at this point if I can't do normal raid, already did lfr, I can just spam 11 with my own key and try to grab 457 all slot? ( fresh rogue)

[fossil girder]

Should be fine simming 447 with 3 setups in gear compare right? Not at comp now but could do that later.

[next token]

i remember watching an Izen video before the season starts on tier set power that had a breakdown like that, ill see if i can find it

[ancient rain]

we go 4p dont worry

[bleak ivy]

Just push key invite Havoc dhs to carry you

[oak tangle]

havoc makes me feel bad

[tulip tendon]

Crazy a 463 branch is a 10k dps upgrade

[fossil girder]

I think the baseline is from no tier to new tier. Also not sure when someone compiles all the data are grabbing what’s updated correctly from our tcs

[craggy basin]

Should I save all CDs to play around Kingsbane? and just do the full order every time they come up? DM/shiv/SD then end with shiv/tea/vanish?

[velvet zenith]

i guess xD

[bleak ivy]

Idk I still invite havocs to carry Me in +20s

[cinder haven]

Wait you guys get invited to keys?

[bleak ivy]

Nah push my own

[sturdy latch]

How would you guys compare the difficulty of outlaws rotation vs assassination?

[oak tangle]

my friend is a havoc, already 2k etc. I CANT COMPARE

[bleak ivy]

Outlaw easiest spec in game

[mighty nexus]

much buttons

[cinder haven]

mine keeps depleting since i get idiots

[floral shoal]

Farming Nick of Time... if I persuade a couple rogues to come with me, do they have to have one or two ilvl same or higher daggers already to trade me?

[fossil girder]

Two

[bleak ivy]

Dont invite idiots

[cinder haven]

it's hard to detect them in lfg though

[bleak ivy]

Not rly

[mortal badger]

What if only idiots sign to your key

[bleak ivy]

Skill based matchmaking

[digital coral]

Plot twist we’re all idiots

[mighty nexus]

I just accept the idiot w higher rio

[next token]

were rats in bobby kotick's maze

[bleak ivy]

Tbf a guy with high Rio and ilvl is less likely to be an idiot

[digital coral]

Bobby “fifth yacht” Kotick

[cinder haven]

why?

[autumn prism]

i have to make 2 set

Should i do it now

or wait

[bleak ivy]

What kind of question is that its self explanatory

[lucid rain]

no reason not to wait

[autumn prism]

I am asking cus i dont know if its worth

[lucid rain]

you get vault tomorrow

[digital coral]

I’d wait until vault. What content are you pushing today?

[cinder haven]

usually big io and gear is good right?

[bleak ivy]

Yes

[mighty nexus]

It implies that they at least somewhat understand what they’re doing

[bleak ivy]

Thats what I said

[cinder haven]

Oh

i can't read

[random plume]

i wish i had 2 already

[mortal badger]

not really tho

[digital coral]

https://tenor.com/view/christopher-walken-too-long-didnt-read-tldr-gif-9222668

[leaden timber]

When are we playing around Sanguine? asked it earlier nobody responded =(\

[mighty nexus]

I have negative brain power, but I’d assume you play around it anytime you’re not in a KB window

[thorny pond]

whatcha mean, just dont take crip poison

[distant fox]

everbloom 15
does that look ok? i know tempest and caustic are a bit low but in general?

[lucid rain]

||https://media.tenor.com/xdOYn3spIHsAAAAC/infinite-dragon-dream-feet-loop.gif|| spoilering for epileptic people

your gif reminded me of that

[digital coral]

It’s the dance

Gots the moves

[leaden timber]

XD Sanguine Blades Talent not Sanguine Affix XD

[oak tangle]

afaik never

we play around envenom buff

[leaden timber]

^ reason for asking

[dark token]

Is it 4 or 5 kills for the mythic 2 chest now in vault

[leaden timber]

coz most of the time when i play around envenom buff i catn maintain >50% energy

[oak tangle]

pool until <1s

or 80% energy

[thorn fjord]

5

[oak tangle]

when you cant maintain, wait till 80% energy

[thorn fjord]

8 for 3

[dark token]

Wat

[thorn fjord]

er 7 i think actually... Smuld is the 3 chest

[dark token]

Wasn't it 3 5 7 in previous tier

I thought they reduce it

[leaden timber]

so play around it enevenom/sanguine out of kb window?

[thorn fjord]

Yeah so it should still be the same 3-5-7

[oak tangle]

i mean dont even think about sanguine

[leaden timber]

pool to 80% when I cant maintain

[mighty nexus]

If you’re pooling well enough, I feel like sanguine is just naturally played into

[oak tangle]

just keep up envenom buff, you're pooling to extend it not sanguine

[mighty nexus]

It is for me at least

[distant fox]

how muhc overall are your crimson tempest and caustic? mines always seem kinda low

[leaden timber]

on M+?

[pseudo hamlet]

2-4-7 I think

[leaden timber]

I normally have Casutic,Garrote,Crimson,Rupture

if i remember correctly

[static glacier]

depends on pull, from an 11 waycrest boost

[fallow acorn]

Throne 17

I gotta turn of HDR

[still creek]

DHT 18

[hearty reef]

Are you guys pressing crimson tempest?

I just refresh it

[still creek]

im also just refreshing it in pandemic

[fallow acorn]

I got bodied by a DH

[fallow acorn]

he was topping 1m on a couple big pulls

[icy iron]

alot of DH dmg is magic dmg, You'd be alot higher if u had a monk in the group 😄

[hearty reef]

Eh i have spatter and exsang higher in overall

[random plume]

i usually just refresh it and envenom

am I playing wrong

[icy iron]

Make sure to think of t hese things when getting ''Bodied'' ❤️

[fallow acorn]

oh I don't mind 🙂

he was getting PI, too

oh no, only once

the Paladin was getting it the rest of the time

I had more interupts so..... my back hurts from carrying this group

[random plume]

pi on them above sin rogue? smh

[fallow acorn]

right?

(was a pug)

[random plume]

silly

yeah makes sense

[clever niche]

!pi

[bleak ivy]

I seem to fall off on very large pulls in m+ but smaller Ones 6-8 I can do well is that the case for yall too?

[fallow acorn]

I've spiked pretty high on big pulls with the right CD's and rotation

[oak tangle]

sucks to be bodied by dh's

[fallow acorn]

but not as high as that DH

rofl

[bleak ivy]

Might be that i'm just playing with dhs

And bms

[split veldt]

do you guys sim nightly or weekly

[fallow acorn]

DH's banned

[hearty reef]

Latets

[fallow acorn]

I never sim ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[bleak ivy]

Nerf havoc

[thorn fjord]

Nightly is usually the safest bet

Outside of weekly but weekly will not be as up to date

[split veldt]

word

[thorn fjord]

Latest can be dicey sometimes

[split veldt]

do we need to do anything special with sanguine blades, or do we just play normally

[thorn fjord]

You dont play around it

[split veldt]

other than kingsbane, is there anything else we should do with caustic

[oak tangle]

envenoms and maintain it on aoe?

[split veldt]

so we spam envenom during caustic?

[oak tangle]

caustic is our aoe finisher, now that CT doesn't do initial damage

[plucky quail]

Are you guys full sending deathmark on trash in these keys or holding it for bosses?

[split veldt]

i send it as much as possible

[oak tangle]

this is a discussion best had with your tank

[random plume]

i send cds as much as possible unless the pull is going to be too short obv

especially on fort

[spice surge]

Ideally send on the big mob of the pack

Like bear in first pull of dht

[bleak ivy]

I always DM and KB the toughest ad of the pack

[spice surge]

Kill it before the other mobs

[thorn fjord]

is Method EU also?

[spice spire]

Yes

[bleak ivy]

yeah

you can play with them

[oak tangle]

i mean don't send a dm on the pack before a boss

[bleak ivy]

if you have darkheart thicket 20+ they will boost you

[oak tangle]

unless that pack really has to die

[spice spire]

Method would be wr 1 if Cev had stayed

[bleak ivy]

Method got Fragnance

[grim tangle]

always send CDs

[bleak ivy]

insane Havoc DH

[thorn fjord]

Both EU RWF guild rogues running sub but our NA Boiz in Liquid are sticking to the SAUCE

[oak tangle]

i struggle to support NA as an OCE

[spice surge]

Pull the pack with the boss, like atal priestess

[thorn fjord]

Although i did play sub on Smolder and it was bussin

[bleak ivy]

Liquid are crying on twitter that EU has advantaage in RWF delusional

[slim hamlet]

That aint what happening

[oak tangle]

i mean they both have advantages and disadvantages

[bleak ivy]

It is check Maxs tweets

[slim hamlet]

Yea

[grim tangle]

EU reading comprehension lmao

[slim hamlet]

Gingi made tweet about it being bad timing for nerf, and then Max made a bit madge post himself

both just as cringe

[bleak ivy]

Yeah not like having 16h ahead of everyone time + earlier resets is the most broken shit ever

[slim hamlet]

[bleak ivy]

Not one to talk when your education is failing you

[oak tangle]

16h's?

[drifting cloud]

oh no more bozos

[unique sorrel]

Me when assa chat and not bitch about rwf like its twitter chat

[grim tangle]

I'm not american buddy

[bleak ivy]

nah just NA tilted

[thorn fjord]

NA spending all its money on OF subs

[slim hamlet]

"assa chat" welcome to offtopic-2 bud

[spice spire]

Can we not guys

[unique sorrel]

[slim hamlet]

[bleak ivy]

Assa talk is the least that happens here

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[thorn fjord]

HAVE AN AMAZING DAY FAVORITE GREEN GAMER

[unique sorrel]

I’m on break I’m here to doom about the nerf hammer coming for our faces eventually

[bleak ivy]

Havoc first

then we talk

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/boo-boo-this-man-mad-angry-gif-16849857

[oak tangle]

As an oce who would have to get up at like 4 am Wednesday morning I have no steak in the NA vs EU debate

[slim hamlet]

Nah they just delete PI from the game instead of direct nerfing sin

Trust me

[spice spire]

[unique sorrel]

You can’t hate me for speaking the truth that’s illegal

[spice spire]

Not even a ribeye? Man

[unique sorrel]

I’m curious how they’ll do it mostly, I’m thoroughly enjoying sin in keys

[limber lion]

Hey no shouting in the office

[celest mirage]

Is snd worth to press at all target counts?

[oak tangle]

They tried, but then forgot about healers

[unique sorrel]

So I hope that doesn’t get smacked

[thorn fjord]

sorry sorry

[slim hamlet]

That's rough

Time for a 12th rework for them

[bleak ivy]

Disc nerf incoming?

Gut priest

[unique sorrel]

Make shadow a support spec

Ezpz

[ornate panther]

buff outlaw

[slim hamlet]

Yea outlaw is rly undertuned

[unique sorrel]

Man I tried to play outlaw in a key yesterday

Couldn’t do it

Felt wack, though might be cause 2p-2p feels bad with it

[bleak ivy]

most broken spec

[oak tangle]

yo i could get behind a support spec shadow, like dps based atonements would be cool

[bleak ivy]

nah fuck support specs tbh

[static glacier]

should I wait til vault to use catalyst? got 2pc from raid + omni token from 2k and catalyst

[thorn fjord]

OL rotation is lame as fuck right now... Hate the gameplay loop

[bleak ivy]

weak wrist?

[unique sorrel]

I do like the pistol cock sound for the bte proc

[thorn fjord]

der der send all the bte's der der

[static glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-reload-horse-mask-guns-gif-17978392

[ornate panther]

I went back to rogue this tier and I figured outlaw was still braindead like in BfA and I was sorrily mistaken.

[gaunt sigil]

We are so getting nerfed right

[thorn fjord]

Its still kind of brain dead but the whole playing around BTE spam is kinda zzzz

[unique sorrel]

I haven’t even touched sub yet this tier

Doubt I even will

[thorn fjord]

Sub is bussin fr fr

[bleak ivy]

it is braindead

[ornate panther]

It sliterally just bte

[unique sorrel]

Sub was only fun for me in PvP

[bleak ivy]

hows sub in keys

[unique sorrel]

But I was also being a rat ass RMP player

[thorn fjord]

Ive been running sub in keys and basically carry boss dmg every time

[bleak ivy]

how about AoE

[thorn fjord]

pack dmg can be kinda poo from time to time but its really good

[thorn fjord]

This aint fun man

it aint it

[oak tangle]

sin isn't probably even as strong as they think, the same thing happened in 10.0 once others get stat weights and shit sorted, they catch up

[slim hamlet]

[hexed willow]

Yeah but if you push it 0.1s late then you’re next cd is bricked

[bleak ivy]

intresting tho I kinda prefer pack dmg in m+ so I guess outlaw/Assasination

[thorn fjord]

My gear is still kinda bad

[slim hamlet]

Why would u ever wait between a gcd

[thorn fjord]

Once i hit higher IL the pack dmg should be fine

[ivory bay]

i'm watching a jpc replay, why is he sometimes pressing builder at 4cp and sometimes finisher at 4cp?

[slim hamlet]

seems like a general player krill issue

[unique sorrel]

I’m hoping they wait till more 4pc sets are out till swinging a bat at things

[lunar helm]

Maybe keep that in twitch chat, or Twitter

[thorn fjord]

Liquid boys look exhausted already lol

[bleak ivy]

mf do you not see what the convo was about

[oak tangle]

historically, the rogue theory crafters have been actually good at their jobs, and we have proper rotations and sim for release, coupled with us scaling so well off dagger ilvl. We get a head start on others

[bleak ivy]

It's morning for them no?

[thorn fjord]

Its kinda nuts that they decided to do RWF during Thanksgiving lol

[thorn fjord]

yeah

[unique sorrel]

Finally free of Nick jail

[thorn fjord]

Theyre in Boston iirc

[slim hamlet]

There was legit no other option

[unique sorrel]

Now it’s hourglass jail time

[oak tangle]

what is thanksgiving

[thorn fjord]

if you think about it Liquid is the only guild out of the big 3 affected lol

[fast fog]

Grats

[thorn fjord]

EU guilds be like whats a turkey

[oak tangle]

i may play on NA server, but that don't mean i know wtf it is

[bleak ivy]

mf do u think we do not have turkeys here

[thorn fjord]

Celebrating when we stole the land from the natives 450 years ago

[slim hamlet]

Yea but it's either thanksgiving, christmas or they would've lied when they said "2023"

[thorn fjord]

lmaoooo

[thorn fjord]

Atleast with christmas everyone would have been affected

[oak tangle]

so kinda like America Day. like we got down under

[slim hamlet]

Yea and afaik thanksgiving is not super big like christmas even in NA

[lunar helm]

thats incorrect

[thorn fjord]

Turkey day huge in the US

[lunar helm]

Its basically a day to travel and see your relatives

[bleak ivy]

Does thanksgiving exist anywhere in EU

[lunar helm]

One of the bigger travel days, so the blizzard employees would also be wanting to do that

[thorn fjord]

why would it lol

[digital coral]

Won’t be the first time someone has missed a holiday for their job. Wont be the last

[oak tangle]

man NA or EU you're all fried thinking christmas is in the cold

[rain cairn]

xd

[prisma monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842817103354658817/1154475731108249700/image.png

[slim hamlet]

isn't christmas that + more?

[bleak ivy]

I'm in eastern europe by the time its christmaas outside is -25 celsius average

[lunar helm]

Yep

[oak tangle]

invert that and it's a cold day here

[slim hamlet]

-25

It doesn't even get that cold in scandinavia

[bleak ivy]

where?

[oak tangle]

Australia

Sunburnt on the beach is a good xmas day

[steel stump]

7th run I'm goated

[bleak ivy]

yes it does lmao

[rain cairn]

lil bish

[royal lantern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1118973221564330014/1176199878955782235/image.png?ex=656e007f&is=655b8b7f&hm=ba565806940b9a5fca42c70ff3aea4180aa416c84727c301e16cf650e75eae55&

average priest player

[indigo epoch]

I got mine on 3rd run. The same night I got 2 daggers in raid.

[bleak ivy]

Ive been to Finland and I live in Lithuania Lithuanian winters seem colder idk

[steel stump]

damn that's a big flex

[indigo epoch]

Haha only normal raid but was a lucky night

[slim hamlet]

I mean thats not how it works

[rain cairn]

i got normal dagger and heroic dagger, both from igria tho....

[sweet dawn]

Does the new shock build sacrifice a ton of ST to do more AOE or is it alright?

[bleak ivy]

-25 happens every winter here how would you know if you dont live here

smh

[slim hamlet]

by using google

smh xd

[bleak ivy]

yeah google would know better than people who live here lmao

[rain cairn]

rokas looking for a fight fr fr

[bleak ivy]

what does google tell you?

[slim hamlet]

[indigo epoch]

No luck on raid drops for set pieces yet though

[slim hamlet]

-20

[odd ingot]

!log

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[slim hamlet]

-45 finland

[bleak ivy]

[bleak ivy]

-45 finland

now thats crazy level of bullshit

[thorn fjord]

I want my seconf Nick

[bleak ivy]

bro thinks Finland is siberia

[thorn fjord]

Im like 17 tries in

[slim hamlet]

how would u know u dont live there?

[bleak ivy]

That's their coldest ever recorded you think its average ? lmao

[random river]

!logs

[bleak ivy]

my brother lives there and I go there often

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[bleak ivy]

thats how I would know

[rain cairn]

wanna know what the funniest shit is, yall are arguing over which place is colder

[oak tangle]

do you get to the cloud district often? oh who am i kidding, of course you dont

[thorn fjord]

Bk or Mcdonalds for lunch?

[simple violet]

just to confirm we never want to dip our energy below 150 due to sanguine blades right?

[rain cairn]

just googled the avg temps of both places and it says its the exact sam

[bleak ivy]

both r ass

[thorn fjord]

yeah thanks i know but that doesnt help me

Those are my current options lol

[bleak ivy]

mcdonaldss better

[digital coral]

Finland record cold be -51.5. Oof that’s cold

[oak tangle]

not confirmed

[thorn fjord]

@slim hamlet what say you

[thorn fjord]

You just want to make sure you're starting your env spam/kb loop at 80 energy

[oak tangle]

firstly, it's hungry jacks, and secondly it's nearly 3 am

[rain cairn]

it is 3am

[bleak ivy]

tf is hungry jacks

[rain cairn]

where the burgers are better

[bleak ivy]

word?

[oak tangle]

australian burger king, because burger king was already a register company here

[rain cairn]

memz this guy wouldnt know

[bleak ivy]

ngl same shit in all of them

[oak tangle]

like it literally is the same thing

[slim hamlet]

what?

[rain cairn]

just like same temp in finland and lithuania XD

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/xdd-xdding-cat-cute-cursed-gif-27104766

[random river]

yo, who can I dm for log help? looking for feedback on any nuances of the spec that I may be fucking up

[slim hamlet]

No it's actually colder in lithuania

he knows trust me

[wet briar]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[crisp pine]

Can I go there without being named Jack?

[bleak ivy]

Maybe while bare naked

[gusty mirage]

No

Jacks only

[crisp pine]

Shit

[bleak ivy]

what if the jack isnt hungry

[gusty mirage]

Then he doesn’t go

[bleak ivy]

I thought Jack makes burgers

[oak tangle]

it's still so funny to me that burger king wanted to set up shop here, but because some random had a trademark already they had to rename their entire business over here hahaha

[bleak ivy]

bro cucked burger king

[oak tangle]

i think it has expired, but there would be riots it they named it burger king now

[gusty mirage]

Is their Oz location even good? Because Burger King is garbage tier in NA

[bleak ivy]

ppl say Mcdonalds in NA and EU are diffrent

[rain cairn]

better than mcd imo

[oak tangle]

talk to an australian and you'll hear mediocre, get an american here and it's gourmet

[gusty mirage]

Mcd’s is even dif US to Canada

[rain cairn]

we are not eu

[gusty mirage]

Canadian Mcd’s slaps

[bleak ivy]

I am

[oak tangle]

it's the same with our KFC, cause of the food standards our government puts in place

[gusty mirage]

[next dust]

do i "break" old 4 set for ilvl?

[bleak ivy]

god knows wtf USA putting in their food

tastest diffrent

[gusty mirage]

No, you break old 4 set for new 2 set

[oak tangle]

I took a photo of my KFC for my US friends and they were genuinely shocked at how nice it looked to them

[gusty mirage]

Bro the MCD’s in Beirut has valet parking I was so fucking confused

[oak tangle]

also, it's a chicken burger, not sandwhich

XD

cause i remember asking them if they had chicken burgers at their KFC and they said no

[bleak ivy]

bro chicken burger is so goated

[wind falcon]

which M+ build is performing best right now. Dragon Tempered Blades or Arterial Precision?

[polar bridge]

Can wowhead stop posting this before the nerfbat gets swung

[oak tangle]

i prefer dtb for higher keys

[lucid rain]

[spice spire]

Blizzard is aware of balancing. They don’t need wowhead’ data

[bleak ivy]

Isnt this because assa rogues get all the PI's and shit

[oak tangle]

The best part about this patch, is we can do aoe and ST at the same time

or rather, we talent spatter and we aren't useless on add fights

[gaunt moat]

This is what happens when a spec gets PI priority.

if anything, nerf PI

[grave depot]

DK and Warlock was way worse at they're prime

[bleak ivy]

hopefully Blizzard isnt braindead enough to nerf a class cause of PI

[thorn fjord]

Bk or McDonald’s

[thorn fjord]

Weird

[thorn fjord]

Dks got their moment in the sun let us have ours

[bleak ivy]

how long till DKs got nerfed?

[oak tangle]

also underappreciated change, aoe blind is nice

[gaunt moat]

PI just sucks.
It's not fun when you don't get it.
It's not fun when you rely on it when you do get it.

[bleak ivy]

remove PI frr

[oak tangle]

make lust 2 min cd

[bleak ivy]

gonna get us all nerfed cause of priests

[thorn fjord]

We’re not really relying on it tho

[west cove]

do we still open with garrote like the old days?

[thorn fjord]

Like we still brrrrr pretty hard without it

[thorn fjord]

Gar amb rupture

[west cove]

thank you

in m+ is it still a tab and garrotte opener for multi?

[royal lantern]

Pi still sucks

[oak tangle]

yeah mostly, but only need 2 garrotes for 6 targets

[gaunt moat]

it's like 20k dps more on some fights

[west cove]

oh thats way more chill

[indigo epoch]

Read the pins Cain. Full links to guides

[chilly viper]

In aoe cleave situation when every target has rupture/garr and ur spamming fok, is it better to dump cp with CT (even when its up) or evenom on main target

[thorn fjord]

I imagine they’ll remove PI after this expansion with everyone heavily complaining about it

[oak tangle]

envenom, ct only refreshes duratin

[indigo epoch]

Keep ct up... dump into envenoms

[royal lantern]

the dream

augmentation aswell please

[chilly viper]

word thx guys

[thorn fjord]

Yeah make aug a tank spec and just be done with it too lol

[chilly viper]

at least aug buffs are removed from logs, pi just ruins it

they should add the same "remove external buffs" to players profile too

[oak tangle]

how do you seperate pi from a sin parse though

[lament dagger]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[strange python]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[bleak ivy]

aint no way fyrak got buffed

[royal lantern]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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Pooling Practice Tool

[bleak ivy]

lmao

[lament dagger]

lmaoo

[oak tangle]

wtf was that

[lament dagger]

cosmic rays hitting the discord

[chilly viper]

Just here instead and have the rankings no-pi

Like rank 270 w/ external buffs - rank 15 no external buff | its already something they have

[oak tangle]

no i get that, i meant you can't remove damage like an aug, because haste affects too much to be able to seperate it

[chilly viper]

Yeah indeed

you can't merge both rankings though

at least it would give a better idea if you fucking suck or just don't get pi

[oak tangle]

they do do that though, if you get like 3 pi's it doesn't count on rankings

[shut owl]

new aug meta: have 4 of em stacked on top of the sin rogue, running mote of possibility so we get DM every KB

[chilly viper]

1 pi during execute phase is still huge

and on opener

Idk im just crying at this point, can ignore

[shut owl]

its "if you get more than 1PI per 2min window"/"if more than one priest targets you"

[fossil marten]

New to assassination, played sub alot last tier, this snap shotting your buffs, is it worth getting all 3 branch mastery buffs before you apply you Dm + SD + KB Bleeds?

[dark light]

So i have branch and embersoul, do I just save soul for 2nd kb?

[oak tangle]

also it already exists

[twilit sequoia]

!logs

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[shut owl]

yes, unless you wanna do some degen prepull disco inferno shit

[dark light]

I do not

tyvm

[woeful wigeon]

question i ty to macro deathmark+shiv not working while shadowdance+kingsbane works /cast Deathmark
/cast Shiv

[dark light]

gcd

[woeful wigeon]

is it cause it hase 2 charges ?

[dark light]

youd need to press it twice

[oak tangle]

dm is not off the gcd

[woeful wigeon]

nope even when ^ressing twice noting

[oak tangle]

that macro wont work

[spice spire]

It’s because it’s on the GCD

Dance isn’t so dance/kb works

[woeful wigeon]

kk how can i get that to work ?

any ways

with cast sequence ?

[spice spire]

You wouldn’t want to do that anyway

Yeah you can

[oak tangle]

the best you could do is a cast sequence, but you can't get it to work how you want

[spice spire]

But I wouldn’t recommend it

[woeful wigeon]

kk cause we DM-shiv dance kings

right

[oak tangle]

yes

[woeful wigeon]

was hoping to save a buttum xd

[oak tangle]

you want shiv on a seperate button though, cause you have to use it agian mid kb

[woeful wigeon]

true

you got a point

thx for the feed back

any other macro you guy have for oppener ?

[oak tangle]

the best i can do for you is to macro in your trinket to dm

[woeful wigeon]

i have branch

i will be to late then

[oak tangle]

nope

[woeful wigeon]

really

[oak tangle]

dm is perfect timing for branch

[tulip tendon]

61 M+ done this week so far

[shut owl]

branch is omegalong buff

[tulip tendon]

Just need a branch

[woeful wigeon]

i will try that tyvm

[fossil marten]

Similar to my question then, do you gain all the branch buffs before snapshotting or can you grab the during your dance window?

[woeful wigeon]

i was always using garotte branch then rest of opener

2 insta 1 5-8 ec after

i think it was

[oak tangle]

temp buffs aren't part of snapshot

[fossil marten]

Kk tyvm

[oak tangle]

the only snapshot applied is 10% from nightstalker

[woeful wigeon]

trinket first or DM first ?

[uncut dragon]

Maybe macro death mark to pot?

[oak tangle]

#showtooltip
/use 13
/cast Deathmark

[woeful wigeon]

th mate and pot ?

[oak tangle]

can if you want

[woeful wigeon]

great tyfor you help gone try itout

[slim hamlet]

both dogshit

[oak tangle]

we got a chain here "grill'd" it puts everything to shame

[woeful wigeon]

quick

[slim hamlet]

sunset boulevard the only fast food that serves decent food here

[distant fox]

how muhc dmg are you doing with spatter and CT?

[slim hamlet]

20 dht

[sweet zealot]

!log

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[distant fox]

15 AD
and 15 everbloom

[maiden stream]

how do u get the timestrike effect things to work, random proc?
trying to get the critter debuff to show a friend

[snow kindle]

I feel like your guys spatter is low

[oak tangle]

16 BRH

[slim hamlet]

timestrike and critter debuff has nothing to do with each other?

[distant fox]

i play shock, when i play the othjer build my spatter is noticably higher

[maiden stream]

I thought they were related? Whoops

[ebon mortar]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
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Pooling Practice Tool

[slim hamlet]

What I've seen spatter is around 7-10%

[maiden stream]

whats the critter debuff from then?