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visual shuttle
mystic osprey
bro just wanted to flex a good opener
slate crown
it wasn't even great I used the old opener accidentally
balmy condor
I don't want your money
zenith hatch
Any chance to fix delay on bar when coming out of stealth? Kinda annoyin during opener (using only default blizz bars)
mystic osprey
Any chance to fix delay on bar when coming out of stealth? Kinda annoyin during ...
default blizz bars
feels bad bro
im praying for you
zenith hatch
Ok thanks for insight
balmy condor
but no, nothing you can do
thick sail
Whose money do you want? I can give you someone else's money
mystic osprey
elvui bars or bartender bars are the same bars just with a skin pasted over
yeah
elvui
lmao
peasant
make your own ui
zenith hatch
Ok, ill just chill for a sec then
mystic osprey
Ok, ill just chill for a sec then
have a quick ciggie break
runic hinge
I feel like the faster I spam the better it is
slate crown
Any chance to fix delay on bar when coming out of stealth? Kinda annoyin during ...
I experience it too. My solution has just been to keep my Stealth/non-stealth bar identical and have separate binds for everything. Doesn't save a keybind unfortunately but it does prevent the delay because I'm always deliberately pressing the button I want
runic hinge
But I’m not an outlaw player so spamming isn’t my specialty
zenith hatch
Ye i have them similar aswell but its just annoyin during opener. Can live with it tho
flat kindle
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placid snow
So I',m usually sub trying sin out and I can definitely see the potential AND more importantly pretty fun. Only prob is the fact I'm running lower keys rn and most stuff dies during Kingsbane. Any alternate lower-key builds that work a bit better?
bleak ivy
nah bro easiest way to get carried in this game
get a high key that RWF pplayers need and get carried by 475 guys
weak hemlock
Hello everyone! I'm starting to take a look at assassination, & was wondering if a blindside proc turns your mutilate into ambush like how sinister strike turns into Ambush in HO outlaw builds?
runic hinge
Yes it does
weak hemlock
Sweet, love freeing up keybinds :p ty
kindred epoch
does anyone have this weakaura that Jpc uses?
makes it much easier to track when to shiv/tea
rotund oak
why dont u ask him 😄
kindred epoch
because hes offline atm 😦
mystic osprey
does anyone have this weakaura that Jpc uses?
just use a normal weakaura
balmy condor
So I',m usually sub trying sin out and I can definitely see the potential AND mo...
use the arterial build, sudden demise should carry you hard enough in low keys
rotund oak
go from wago and pick up one
mystic osprey
use afenar
rotund oak
use the arterial build, sudden demise should carry you hard enough in low keys
im dying to listen that weird ''Hyia'' again on the next yt vid
weak hemlock
The Arterial build is the default mythic+ build in +20 keys too I'm assuming from what I'm reading on wowhead?
mystic osprey
The Arterial build is the default mythic+ build in +20 keys too I'm assuming fro...
Whispyr said the hybrid and arterial are as good as each other
Just use whatever you're better at
weak hemlock
If you're new to assassination, which one would you say is more new-user friendly?
cinder geode
When do you do the m+ build with blindside and AP versus dtb ?
tawdry crypt
how is sin in keys
mystic osprey
If you're new to assassination, which one would you say is more new-user friendl...
ive never used the shiv build
they're pretty similar in skill level I think
mystic osprey
how is sin in keys
pumping
cinder geode
do yall use arterial and blindside or dtb and poison bomb in keys
mystic osprey
do yall use arterial and blindside or dtb and poison bomb in keys
I be using poison bomb
I like it
you can use both
cinder geode
what are the advantages and disadvantages of each tho
grim tree
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thick schooner
Well timed all 20s, we are pretty strong. Whispyr are you ever having an issue ramping for key2low reasons? lol even in 20 my KB target just gets annihilated
mystic osprey
hybrid leans into kingsbane/spatter
kingsbane 😩
balmy condor
Well timed all 20s, we are pretty strong. Whispyr are you ever having an issue r...
yep, every key
thick schooner
Yeah it’s so brutal, I do either 800k on pulls or 200k lol
quartz prawn
!wa
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hexed willow
Yeah it’s so brutal, I do either 800k on pulls or 200k lol
Ok glad I’m not alone on that one
Was doing a 18 EB and by the time I got dots on all targets for the first pull they were halfway dead
smoky coyote
Yeah with heavy burst classes our dps suffers quite alot
kindred breach
Was doing a 18 EB and by the time I got dots on all targets for the first pull t...
Yep that sucks a lot ; on 20-21s without a crazy DH destroying the soul of every add it starts to feel better
hexed willow
I’ve been playing with a havoc+ret 🙃
smoky coyote
Ah so its normal a Havoc has 80k plus more dps as us?
kindred breach
80k is a bit much
subtle tundra
🤨
kindred breach
But yeah they finish like 20-30k above me always
mystic osprey
Ah so its normal a Havoc has 80k plus more dps as us?
180k you mean
kindred breach
They gonna get the nerf hammer imo
Its just overpowered
But on the better side all keys are destroyed by DH rogue
smoky coyote
In my 17 eb farm keys i get brutally annihilated by them 😅
spice gull
Good grief the spec is complex
Having to keep tabs on KB timers for specific activations like vanish and thistle tea, and thats just on ST idek about aoe
aoe just seems to be keep spatter on one mob and fan of knives. Keeping up tempest and envenoming the spatter mob
proper forum
!up
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devout prism
week 1 assassination goal accomplished
slate crown
Having to keep tabs on KB timers for specific activations like vanish and thistl...
If you want a tool to help see the timing better on tracking when to use stuff during KB, the Kingsbane Timer aura in my profile (LE's Profile) may be helpful
mystic osprey
week 1 assassination goal accomplished
thats cute
slate crown
!wa
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Whispyr's Afenar Edit
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Pooling Practice Tool
mystic osprey
weak hemlock
So I'm looking at the wowhead rotation guide, & I'm wondering when in 6+ target AoE, do you just use garrote multiple times on the same enemy to spread garrote, or do you tab to someone that doesn't have it already?
mystic osprey
So I'm looking at the wowhead rotation guide, & I'm wondering when in 6+ target ...
tab
smoky coyote
With Ap build i tap like a lunatic
low quartz
yeah I tab once and pray honestly - you have such a small window to get improved garottes out
if you need to do it x3, send it imo
hexed willow
aoe just seems to be keep spatter on one mob and fan of knives. Keeping up tempe...
Tying to keep up your garrote/rupture in aoe is also really good for energy management too. Lots of spinning plates
placid snow
if i "accidentally" misalign deathmark + kingsbane, so, let's say I don't use the former first
Do i just press it after?
kindred breach
In my 17 eb farm keys i get brutally annihilated by them 😅
Yeah the lower the key the greater will be the gap, because adds are just melting
And DH has insta damage while we need to set up and get our KB to full duration
mystic osprey
wheres the rotation at for the ap build
kindred breach
In my 21s its more 15-30k diff; but the lower i go the crazier the gap becomes
strange python
ok i give in, whats the verdict on branch usage now
weak hemlock
I'm also trying to figure out where the extra CP generation is coming from with fan of knives. It says it awards 1 combo point, but when hitting 5 targets at once it's awarding 3. I can't find it in the talent tree or spellbook. Am I blind?
kindred breach
Do i just press it after?
You would in order to get back to the CD rotation every min without delaying too much
If u lose like 10s on your next KB to realign it with DM its a gain imo
kindred breach
ok i give in, whats the verdict on branch usage now
you click = boss go brrrrr
shy pecan
I'm also trying to figure out where the extra CP generation is coming from with ...
Seal Fate
strange python
you click = boss go brrrrr
i mean do we use after like 8s of kb and just take 3 stacks
or do we have to do the kite shit
kindred breach
I macro it on my KB
kindred breach
And make sure to get the third before last 3s of KB
shy pecan
Wish you’d seal my fate
kindred breach
Get the two in front instantly and just move a bit for the third
kindred breach
to come to you naturally
strange python
welp i guess i have to play sin for raid now
time to farm another nichole fulltime
kindred breach
Still waiting for mines...
Prefered push the rio and got lucky with branch so still have to do 215421587 fall
mystic osprey
wheres the rotation at for the ap build
weak hemlock
Is the wowhead guide accurate in that with the Branch trinket, you pick up two of the orbs immediately & then let the last one hit you naturally? or am I mis-remembering that
or is that still sort of up in the air/being debated?
kindred breach
Is the wowhead guide accurate in that with the Branch trinket, you pick up two o...
Thats pretty accurate
The thing is if u try to get one by one
strange python
oh ok so not that bad
kindred breach
U increase duration but miss 1k8 mastery on 7s KB
And 3k6 on the last 3s
So thats really bad i think
weak hemlock
I like the idea of just picking two up & forgetting about it much more appealing tbh :p glad it sounds better lol
kindred breach
I like the idea of just picking two up & forgetting about it much more appealing...
Yup i take a bit of practice to not go too far and miss it on the 3s, in any case juste run to it if needed
kindred breach
I've found a WAfor this if u google Kingsbane weak aura 10.2 u'll find it
keen spruce
you think I wouldn't find out about this
how did your people get their hands on our wowaudit
why am I becoming a cryptid
weak hemlock
I'm at 76 according to my guild spreadsheet, you're making me feel bad
keen spruce
in wow discords
mystic osprey
LMAO
keen spruce
I'm at 76 according to my guild spreadsheet, you're making me feel bad
I am at 76 now 
just did a couple of keys 
oak tangle
lavish brook
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weak hemlock
I am at 76 now <:thumbsup:1006977195476000868> just did a couple of keys <:kekl...
we're gaming 
balmy condor
can confirm build is good in low keys
15 minute +13
looks good to me
still no branch though
fuck my life
low quartz
which build was that?
balmy condor
arterial
haughty flicker
i wish i could press buttons as well as whispyr does
wait void elf racial doing as much as an embellishment rip
balmy condor
its down there somewhere
low quartz
kk ❤️
clever perch
Im doing like a notepad with dungeons with big pulls/long mob alive for assa and small pulls/dies fast for outlaw
any help?
low quartz
damn your sudden demise put mine to shame
balmy condor
if things die fast you're not doing high enough keys
low quartz
are you refreshing for 35% or some weird shit?
clever perch
if things die fast you're not doing high enough keys
im doing 21s kekw
balmy condor
im doing 21s kekw
yeah, that's what I said
clever perch
so below 22 i guess i'll just play outlaw?
it feels weird cuz everything dies too fast
balmy condor
I mean I just cranked out like 240k on a +13
haughty flicker
no you should just pull more
balmy condor
so
play whatever you want
if things die fast
who cares
means you're timing the key
low quartz
how you doin your aoe between packs - cant help but feel like im fuckin it up after I get my raptures up - never know if I should just send crimson, or envenom first, then crimson, at which point packs are dead anyway xD
clever perch
i guess i'll have to use more my brain to do not waste cds on things that die in less than 15 seconds
low quartz
*ruptures (I need to stop playing disc too)
eternal heath
<:Bingus_Thumbs_Up:859720807584366592> can confirm build is good in low keys
yuge
just did a 15 EB, getting better
eternal heath
Yeah been trying to learn sin this week
clever perch
i guess i should hold up my cds more till i find a tanky tanky mob
clever perch
Yeah been trying to learn sin this week
are u playing arterial shock?
clever perch
can anyone send a whispyr clip in a big pull to see how he handles it?
vagrant wagon
Wafting Devotion weapon entchant only good for raid? Because atm i see a lot of rogues using sophic devotion or Wafting Devotion, can someone explain the logic behind it please?
Wafting Devotion BiS for raid
Sophic Devotion BiS for m+ ?
clever perch
or someone that plays high keys
eternal heath
Wafting Devotion weapon entchant only good for raid? Because atm i see a lot of ...
sim
clever perch
i think i also have the problem about not knowing how to handle big pulls perfectly
eternal heath
My tanks like to pull 2-3 mobs then pull 8 more after we are in combat
So I pop either SD or vanish
mystic osprey
<:Bingus_Thumbs_Up:859720807584366592> can confirm build is good in low keys
when do you use shiv?
keen spruce
just did a 15 EB, getting better
overall in EB is hard to use as a measuring stick
cuz you have 2 giga damage amp bosses
that blow up your overall
eternal heath
oh yeah for sure
keen spruce
but if you're gulag'd in there for a branch
then comparing against other blooms
probably still fine
eternal heath
I have to resist using KB at start of witherbark
We hit brittle with like 25s left on cd
eternal heath
But I usually can still get full kb during brittle so
keen spruce
and rip DM/kb on pull
that one is more about your ranged planting good vines
to keep you in brittle from 100-0
placid snow
So with arterial what's the best way to do Sudden Demise? Just play normally and it'll do its thing or like.. reapply bleeds on low hp?
keen spruce
So with arterial what's the best way to do Sudden Demise? Just play normally and...
don't play around demise
eternal heath
but if you're gulag'd in there for a branch
definitely need to be in there a while lol
blazing jewel
keen spruce
i got a champion dagger the one time
blazing jewel
need more gear
blazing jewel
must kill weird tree lady tomorrow
keen spruce
griefed me
eternal heath
I have one champ dagger
opaque cliff
I ran eb twice and saw 3 trinkets
eternal heath
weird council fight in eb sucks ass
blazing jewel
we must become more powerful
quartz prawn
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eternal heath
This ran during my entire key, holy
kindred breach
i guess i should hold up my cds more till i find a tanky tanky mob
I tried ans actually i think thats why we lose dps
I think the idea is to throw everything on CD even if the pack is close to dead
fallow dune
kindred breach
Unless u just hold CD for just 10s, i think overall it makes us lose CD phases
And thats worst than not getting full duration on one KB because it came back at 50% health
blazing jewel
what you need is to get rid of that dogshit eggshell
IT IS BAD
ive done so many dawns
no sandglass
kindred breach
So unless pack is like réally 10% health i would throw everything
blazing jewel
my other option is nelths
and I cant really wear that in raid
we take too much damage
kind forge
i think mizeroks cc tracker link in the wowhead guide is dead
keen spruce
steel ridge
regarding embersoul, from what i can tell the raidbot doesnt proc the "when circumstances are dire" part of the trinket, right?
kind forge
i randomly found out
keen spruce
u simp
blazing jewel
balmy condor
regarding embersoul, from what i can tell the raidbot doesnt proc the "when circ...
correct
balmy condor
no
late birch
Anyone else randomly get pulled out of stealth in most dungeons?
balmy condor
Anyone else randomly get pulled out of stealth in most dungeons?
sark cloak
blazing jewel
u simp
lemme see how much damage it is
-700
who cares
wait
eggshell is better lmfao
late birch
sark cloak
anything else or would it just be the cloak?
balmy condor
anything else or would it just be the cloak?
just cloak typically
steel ridge
no
so its not implemented and might cause the trinket so slightly undersim depending when it procs
balmy condor
so its not implemented and might cause the trinket so slightly undersim dependin...
sure
late birch
sick ty
steel ridge
huh
balmy condor
but if you're assuming your raid is full of shitters that are dying
then sure yeah
undersimming
steel ridge
when exactly does it proc? when a player dies ?
thick jacinth
what are our best 4 slots for tier?
balmy condor
when exactly does it proc? when a player dies ?
a third of your group has to die I think
gentle burrow
Idk a friend made me play vs her
steel ridge
a third of your group has to die I think
yikes 😄
balmy condor
they had to do that to prevent the stupid cheese
rogues facepulling the boss to trigger the trinket
like fucking degenerates
gentle burrow
Why
thick jacinth
icyveins guide has us equipping 5 slots of tier?
grim jay
For some reason my ass read superbloom
Id recommend using your eyes to read instead of your ass
dusty trellis
gentle burrow
Damn
grim jay
Even braille might be difficult with your ass
balmy condor
im in some OCE group and they're all talking like they know each other but they're in different guilds and the demon hunter has been taking a shit for legit almost 10 minutes
blursed key
thick jacinth
name and shame the oce boys
strange python
xDD
thick jacinth
we all know each other
mystic osprey
guys I highly recommend trying the arterial build if you havent
very fun to watch a lot of purple come up on the screen
balmy condor
OCE boys the only mfers awake at this ungodly hour
mystic osprey
OCE boys the only mfers awake at this ungodly hour
yep
thick jacinth
7:47pm in aus land
mystic osprey
gentle burrow
What are u doing awake then
balmy condor
running everbloom for my branch
mystic osprey
look at his bio
balmy condor
bitch read
mystic osprey
he dont sleep
eternal heath
candid goblet
boys does FoK replace mutilate/ambush during our cd's? (Raid spatter build)
grim jay
im in some OCE group and they're all talking like they know each other but they'...
My pugs
gentle burrow
Why dont u just make branch drop
mystic osprey
im in some OCE group and they're all talking like they know each other but they'...
yep
thats australia
steel ridge
boys does FoK replace mutilate/ambush during our cd's? (Raid spatter build)
in what situation?
candid goblet
area of effect situation
mystic osprey
like ads
steel ridge
area of effect situation
like tindral
slow needle
im in some OCE group and they're all talking like they know each other but they'...
Sounds like OCE tbh.
candid goblet
tindral, gnarlroot, igira
steel ridge
git gud
mystic osprey
what i gotta do to play this shit right
yeah man
its fun
I just started doing it
the purple everywhere is great
and you dont have to rely as much on poison bomb to do some damage
cunning basin
any major rotational differences between this and the normal hybrid build?
been a hybrid build andy so far but these keys are all so low i figured id dick around with this
fossil girder
sark cloak
Also plenty of annoying shit does engage-aoe stomp effects
mystic osprey
been a hybrid build andy so far but these keys are all so low i figured id dick ...
nah not rly a big difference
you save a shiv for deathmark
and use it then
thats all I read
cunning basin
ah
mystic osprey
could be completely wrong but its pretty much the same
cunning basin
yolo it is then
mystic osprey
yep
junior aurora
you play it completely the same
junior aurora
with AP you can send shiv outside of cds for more aoe damage though
cunning basin
noice
thanks broskis
unfotunately 20s ain't quite high enough for the big kb pop off yet
steel ridge
just pull stuff on bosses :b
mighty elm
Just invite outlaws and you can do more dmg as assa 
soft shale
maybe you need a sub rogue for mobs to magically appear on bosses
mystic osprey
is it a warrior or demon hunter
balmy condor
druid
mystic osprey
that was the third option
blazing jewel
mystic osprey
unfotunately 20s ain't quite high enough for the big kb pop off yet
dont team up with dh
you good
boomies seem like they dont know what the fuck theyre doing
even though they have 6 buttons to press
grim jay
dont team up with dh
Bm is equally bad tbf
mystic osprey
Bm is equally bad tbf
I only see decent bm in raid
pure bridge
Have you guys seen rdruids bursting 250k+ in lust in cat form. Completely made me turn my head since my m+ group made rezan disappear on a 20 way quicker than expected.
balmy condor
convinced this is a boomkin
junior aurora
i see good BMs in everbloom runs
mystic osprey
Have you guys seen rdruids bursting 250k+ in lust in cat form. Completely made ...
tf
what
junior aurora
and by that i mean they peak at 800k dps on the first pull and then coast the rest of the dungeon
steel ridge
Have you guys seen rdruids bursting 250k+ in lust in cat form. Completely made ...
yeah resto cat fucks
fossil pendant
Hello guys anyone can recommend a good rotation guide for assa? I checked faq but I dont like wowhead or icy veins way of explaining
grim jay
have fun trying to do damage
Theyve been ripping the trash to shreds without any chance at all
steel ridge
its glorious
junior aurora
Hello guys anyone can recommend a good rotation guide for assa? I checked faq bu...
whispyr youtube videos
mystic osprey
Hello guys anyone can recommend a good rotation guide for assa? I checked faq bu...
whispyr video
grim jay
Even on 20+
junior aurora
but they basically just explain what he wrote in the wowhead guide
mystic osprey
but they basically just explain what he wrote in the wowhead guide
they go into more depth
slightly
fair ingot
Have you guys seen rdruids bursting 250k+ in lust in cat form. Completely made ...
my rdruid over here doing 5k overall dps
fossil pendant
whispyr video
Thanks
pure bridge
my rdruid over here doing 5k overall dps
My guildie told me its a specific build, but he plans on using it more when he gets the items.
soft shale
there is also a caster trinket that does 1m+dmg
wispy island
username checks out
steel ridge
idk i never played bone spike this patch
and thats funny apparently
mystic osprey
I just know its not as good as dance
grim jay
everyone - but me
Just loot it smh my head
mystic osprey
I think dance has higher burst
steel ridge
I just know its not as good as dance
???
fair ingot
My guildie told me its a specific build, but he plans on using it more when he g...
guildy on my twink super noob casual guild aswell. she has 1-5bound and clicks the rest. has only 1 capstone skilled in tree (yes that includes both talent trees) and says if she tries to do any dps her team dies.
i wonder why
balmy condor
this guy just chained 6 berserkers together
mystic osprey
what a chad
fallen forge
guildy on my twink super noob casual guild aswell. she has 1-5bound and clicks t...
i had a cotank prot pally that would always press wog instead of sotr in shadowlands bc she thought she was healing herself and if she didnt she would die
cunning basin
fuck sbs
junior aurora
this guy just chained 6 berserkers together
fuck ranged who cares about em
fallen forge
so i kept ripping threat just for doing a regular rotation
junior aurora
just rip an ursols and blow the pack up
fair ingot
i had a cotank prot pally that would always press wog instead of sotr in shadowl...
one dh tank in this guild does like 10k hps overall
let those tanks meet ^^ one only heals the other one doesnt at all
snow plinth
Hey so I'm still getting the hang of rogue, if i post a log would anyone able to give me tips on what i may be doing wrong or things to look out for?
mystic osprey
Hey so I'm still getting the hang of rogue, if i post a log would anyone able to...
Sure
what build you using
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steel ridge
i am just wondering, since like 98% of toplogs dont play boner
grim jay
For basics
steel ridge
but those are probably mostly 4p
mystic osprey
i am just wondering, since like 98% of toplogs dont play boner
It might be because of 4 set
Im being so fucking dumb atm
holy fuck
Im talking like I'm sleep deprived but im not
cunning basin
halfway through a 17 checking in
fallen forge
i am just wondering, since like 98% of toplogs dont play boner
i always play with a boner
cunning basin
build fucks
cunning needle
i am just wondering, since like 98% of toplogs dont play boner
what the fuck is boner?
boreal sky
sd+kb macro fine ye?
fallen forge
mystic osprey
@steel ridge depends how well you are at the build
mystic osprey
what the fuck is boner?
boner spike
cunning needle
oh 
steel ridge
<@274942335169593358> depends how well you are at the build
yes i know that, but it seems to not be popular
mystic osprey
yes i know that, but it seems to not be popular
It might be because it slightly extends the time of the opener?
just a guess
steel ridge
It might be because it slightly extends the time of the opener?
it doesnt
mystic osprey
it doesnt
Just play what you enjoy really
It doesn't seem to be a big difference in dps
snow plinth
Sure
I'm not sure, I think I took it from wowhead? uses Arterial Precision and DTB in ST
mystic osprey
I'm not sure, I think I took it from wowhead? uses Arterial Precision and DTB in...
yeah ok
ez
are you oki or adynna
snow plinth
are you oki or adynna
Adynna
grim jay
who are these people
Too many to list them all 
queen bear
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clever sapphire
uncultured people, i see
snow plinth
Gotcha, I've mostly been trusting the game to swap my mutilate bind to Ambush since they listed that it does that now but ill bind it if i have to
clever sapphire
it does
drifting cloud
you dont have to, this ryan guy just talking nonsense
fierce sigil
For now it seems that we will get a big Slam with a big fat mace Right?
steel ridge
you dont have to, this ryan guy just talking nonsense
amen 😄
mystic osprey
you dont have to, this ryan guy just talking nonsense
Whats this for
Ambush over Mutilate?
or bone spike
mystic osprey
Gotcha, I've mostly been trusting the game to swap my mutilate bind to Ambush si...
This is my fight on heroic igira where I died at the end, versus yours
Look at the difference in which we cast things
fierce sigil
For now it seems that we will get a big Slam with a big fat mace Right?
So i mean… we will get nerfed Right?
jovial jasper
probably not
jovial jasper
assa in itself isn't exactly an outlier
mystic osprey
you dont have to, this ryan guy just talking nonsense
You do when you can
jovial jasper
it's moreso that like
mythic sample size is obviously tiny
but you get the point
mystic osprey
stop telling people secrets bro
normal reef
Don't worry they will.nerf shadow priest further just because we are good pi targets now
jovial jasper
there's a few outliers and then everything else is shit in comparison
royal lantern
you dont have to, this ryan guy just talking nonsense
thought you shittalk me
why is the name so similar wtf
mystic osprey
we gotta stop doing damage guys so that we can do damage when its important
jovial jasper
so either assa+havoc+bm+demo all get nerfed
or none of them do
or well
lock is the main character so they won't get nerfed
clever sapphire
Don't worry they will.nerf shadow priest further just because we are good pi tar...
whats this PI you keep talking about, the thing that still goes to our warlocks in my raid?
steel ridge
For now it seems that we will get a big Slam with a big fat mace Right?
have you seen demon hunters?
snow plinth
wait
mystic osprey
im starting to think pi is a myth
snow plinth
This is my fight on heroic igira where I died at the end, versus yours
Why do we have ambush twice?
royal lantern
whats this PI you keep talking about, the thing that still goes to our warlocks ...
not getting pi and the other warlock getting 2set before him was 1of the reasons a warlock did a gquit 2days ago 🙂
mystic osprey
Why do we have ambush twice?
during the rotation?
royal lantern
warlock moment
clever sapphire
not getting pi and the other warlock getting 2set before him was 1of the reasons...
dodged a bullet there
fierce sigil
have you seen demon hunters?
In Most of the Logs assa Rogue is top dps no?
steel ridge
In Most of the Logs assa Rogue is top dps no?
being fed Power Infusion outa the wazoo
snow plinth
Is true stealth Ambush listed seperately than Blindside Ambushes?
mystic osprey
Is true stealth Ambush listed seperately than Blindside Ambushes?
Possibly
gaunt moat
@runic hinge
You've requested a more compact version.
I've updated the WA with a toggle that allows hiding everything but the damage number and the main icon.
Let me know if this is good enough or you also need to not see the icon at all (that would be a bit more complicated to do)
snow plinth
My only guess is Stealth/Dance Ambush vs Blindside Ambush
mystic osprey
My only guess is Stealth/Dance Ambush vs Blindside Ambush
yeah
smoky coyote
Wasnt it already an issue in Ptr?
mystic osprey
In the logs looks like I did a lot more dmg with envenom
cunning geyser
Any assa macro? I see on icy veins/wowhead to use kingsbane with macro
mystic osprey
I think theres one f or shadow dance and kingsbane
steel ridge
<@221124352861667340>
You've requested a more compact version.
I've updated the...
not a WA pro, but cant you just alpha 0 the icon
mystic osprey
My only guess is Stealth/Dance Ambush vs Blindside Ambush
What are your stats atm
gaunt moat
/use Kingsbane;```i will say on Igira specifically for a while on the spears i was trying to bleed them first but they kinda just died and it took me a while to adjust and just envenom them
mystic osprey
i am now a believer
its a fucking W
cunning basin
praise the arterial
steel ridge
i am now a believer
i told you guys after the first round of PTR m+ but well, nobody listens to me anyway
jovial jasper
i will say on Igira specifically for a while on the spears i was trying to bleed...
i wouldnt bother touching them
cunning basin
all yall that posted sicknasty dps meters convinced me
snow plinth
What are your stats atm
atm, if it matters, using the Thorn boots and toxic on belt
gaunt moat
not a WA pro, but cant you just alpha 0 the icon
Not the simple, because other elements will still show (Borders, glows, swiper)
cunning basin
i told you guys after the first round of PTR m+ but well, nobody listens to me a...
to be fair, i was listening, and convinced, im just a fuckin autist so i dont like to change shit
jovial jasper
maybe a few envenoms on the spears at most but definitely no point dotting them
mystic osprey
atm, if it matters, using the Thorn boots and toxic on belt
your vers is way too high
vers is our bottom stat
this is mine
I needa get my haste up a bit
midnight atlas
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mystic osprey
you needa get your mastery up @snow plinth
cunning geyser
```/use Shadow Dance;
/use Kingsbane;```
simple as that ok thanks
blazing jewel
stats arent that big 
mystic osprey
stats arent that big <:caterm:1114018777894506606>
mastery is pretty important
mystic osprey
im tryna get that branch
royal lantern
almost as if stats are very interchangeable for assa
worthy heart
quick question as a noob outlaw player: how bedge is it to castsequence the 1min cd rotation?
mystic osprey
dont even let me into twos anymore :(
cunning geyser
Use Mutilate and Ambush as a builder during Shadow Dance
What does this mean exactly? To use mutilate to refresh caustic splatter? But otherwise it's ambush over mutilate during a Dance no?
mystic osprey
Use Mutilate and Ambush as a builder during Shadow Dance
What does this mean e...
use ambush when can
are you reading st or mythic
proper forum
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cunning geyser
ST opener that's why I'm confused
mystic osprey
ST opener that's why I'm confused
Ambush
kind forge
Use Mutilate and Ambush as a builder during Shadow Dance
What does this mean e...
ambush also refreshes spatter
cunning geyser
On Icy veins opener at number 4
it says to use mutilate or ambush during shadow dance, it should just say to use ambush then right?
mystic osprey
It goes something like: Garrote, Ambush (till 6 points), Rupture, Ambush, Slice and Dice, Ambush, Envenom, Deathmark, Shiv, SD + KB, Ambush to generate combo points and envenom to spend
snow plinth
oh
i have those first bit swapped
ive been doing garrote slice ambush to 4 rupture
then the rest normal
mystic osprey
I used to do that as well
because of old rotation
just practise on dummies for a lil while
14 everbloom pls
sweet dawn
14 everbloom pls
Blessed be my child
snow plinth
also like
mystic osprey
im legit 453 and ive done an 11 eb
sharp echo
After 30th run 🥵
mystic osprey
ive done a shit load of 17s bruh
cunning geyser
SD is always paired with KB? or does it happen to press one without the other?
snow plinth
3 or 4% of that vers i have is cuz im stuck with this shit
mystic osprey
didnt let me in
sweet dawn
SD is always paired with KB? or does it happen to press one without the other?
You can macro them
Dance is off GCD
steel ridge
@gaunt moat its fine, i just moved the text up and the icon off screen
snow plinth
speaking of macros, any other ones suggested?
steel ridge
we get it, you are a god amongst ants
sweet dawn
we get it, you are a god amongst ants
mystic osprey
I didnt even get accepted to a 2
steel ridge
which fight is the most patchwerky
volcoross?
static glacier
and ive done an 11 eb and 17s
I’m 2k and can get declined to 17s
sweet dawn
which fight is the most patchwerky
Volc/Smolderon imo
mystic osprey
I’m 2k and can get declined to 17s
who tf are the people running these keys
steel ridge
smolderon has so much shit going on, its hardly patchwork^^
mystic osprey
do they know assassin rogue is one of the top dps atm
flint tusk
one thing i didn't consider recently about keys and why we get declined.
if we're last DPS it could be they already are two melee or already have a rogue.
steel ridge
its more like "shits on fire yo"
static glacier
who tf are the people running these keys
Sometimes they want Aug only or a specific utility like cres
snow plinth
theres a weakaura to show classes theyt have
junior aurora
get premade group finder addon
mystic osprey
Sometimes they want Aug only or a specific utility like cres
losers
flint tusk
i don't get why we can't see what classes/specs are already in the group.
static glacier
I don’t take it personally, just keep trying
mystic osprey
get premade group finder addon
getting that shit rn
flint tusk
get premade group finder addon
whats that?
snow plinth
i don't get why we can't see what classes/specs are already in the group.
theres a weakaura for it but yeah
junior aurora
it shows you classes/specs
static glacier
i don't get why we can't see what classes/specs are already in the group.
A friend of mine has a weak aura that shows that iirc
junior aurora
and lets you filter by dungeon and if the group has lust or not
snow plinth
flint tusk
oh damn. i'll need to snag that then
royal lantern
quick question as a noob outlaw player: how bedge is it to castsequence the 1min...
just dont play it then lol, there is not cast sequence
flint tusk
probably stop me tilting so much also xD
junior aurora
also i got into like 20 everblooms earlier pretty fast and im not 2k io
just gotta apply to groups that you bring something to
royal lantern
just gotta apply to groups that you bring something to
i bring Depression
mystic osprey
which one @junior aurora
junior aurora
the one with 7 mil downloades
junior aurora
i bring Depression
something unique that not every wow player brings tryan
royal lantern
something unique that not every wow player brings tryan
depression, but my character is a cute fox with a tmog that has some effort behind it
surreal spear
Does it matter what offhand you have? purely the TYPE of off hand, i want a nick of time ofc but i wanna test assa and only got stuff for outlaw 😮
junior aurora
depression, but my character is a cute fox with a tmog that has some effort behi...
do you get declined often
vulpera takes away from group vibes
brisk anvil
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junior aurora
Does it matter what offhand you have? purely the TYPE of off hand, i want a nick...
you want a dagger
faster weapon swings = more poison procs = more kingsbane damage
royal lantern
Does it matter what offhand you have? purely the TYPE of off hand, i want a nick...
you need a dagger in botj hands too use all abilitys
royal lantern
mutilate needs 2daggers
junior aurora
you can't use mutilate forgot about that im used to sub lol
royal lantern
mf's talk about weapon procs
meanwhile 1 of the main abilitys is not usable
kinda a bigger Problem imo
junior aurora
im used to sub okay where it was a question that was asked 5 times an hour
boreal cloud
I have SD and KB macrod together in that order. However for some reason they dont sync up probably. Do I need to turn those two into a castsequence?
junior aurora
and you could play sub without an offhand dagger but like, in aoe only
and that was pre rework
junior aurora
I have SD and KB macrod together in that order. However for some reason they don...
if you're on a gcd kingsbane wont cast
royal lantern
I have SD and KB macrod together in that order. However for some reason they don...
kb is on the gcd, dance is not
flint tusk
I have SD and KB macrod together in that order. However for some reason they don...
no you need to ensure you're pressing it when you're not on GCD lock
snow plinth
In the logs looks like I did a lot more dmg with envenom
might be a dumb question, whats the minimum cp you wanna envenom with?
boreal cloud
No i mean that i cast it off GCD and somehow SD will start after kingsbane
junior aurora
4+
royal lantern
might be a dumb question, whats the minimum cp you wanna envenom with?
assa is 4+ for finishers rn
junior aurora
i recommend getting a combo point weakaura that changes colors when you're at 4+ lol
makes it so much simpler
junior aurora
i think LE's does yea
snow plinth
fossil girder
That pack is amazing
jaunty dew
First EB, trinket dropped, huzza!
flint tusk
First EB, trinket dropped, huzza!
end yourself
mystic osprey
First EB, trinket dropped, huzza!
im doing eb rn
boutta get it and flex on these noobs
when do you pop trinket in rotation again?
jaunty dew
Technically with DM iirc
fossil girder
Dm
royal lantern
dm ye
mystic osprey
ok
junior aurora
end yourself
in game of course
mystic osprey
ez
royal lantern
dm, pick up 2orbs instantly, wait a bit for the last orb
mystic osprey
good to know for when I get it this dungeon
flint tusk
in game of course
no. whispyr can confirm when
mystic osprey
dm, pick up 2orbs instantly, wait a bit for the last orb
how long exactly
jaunty dew
@flint tusk ❤️
mystic osprey
like 6 seconds or something?
royal lantern
how long exactly
~4sec is allright, 7is optimal
royal lantern
but like, in most fights, you pick 2 and let the last orb just come tbh
which defaults to like, 5seconds?
junior aurora
in most fights good luck seeing them
topaz onyx
hilarious is that you see other people's orbs aswell
steel ridge
hilarious is that you see other people's orbs aswell
omg really?
junior aurora
yea
royal lantern
in most fights good luck seeing them
use dm, walk left forward, then right, then do normal rotation and the last orb just reaches you, i dont even look for them anymore tbh
flint tusk
wasn't there a WA also people started using?
junior aurora
yeah it helps
royal lantern
wasn't there a WA also people started using?
its only a timer and how many collected
flint tusk
ah
royal lantern
like, ofc good, but cant do more
flint tusk
oh obvs they broke the whole range thing didn't they
cunning geyser
in the opener why does it say to Cast Mutilate once? while still under subterfurge
jaunty dew
Does LE's pack do anything improved from Afenar?
junior aurora
in the opener why does it say to Cast Mutilate once? while still under subterfur...
which opener
cunning geyser
which opener
icy veins
junior aurora
st or aoe
jaunty dew
The icy veins rotation guide seems a bit off tbh
slim hedge
Icy Veins is always off
mystic osprey
if he did
snow plinth
im assuming you kinda just let Amp Poison do its thing and dont think about it
fossil girder
Maybe it isn’t updated . Muti outside stealth/sd/subterfuge and ambush inside those
jaunty dew
The one in M+ page isn't updated
willow kite
hilarious is that you see other people's orbs aswell
it is actually the dumbest thing ever, lol
mystic osprey
Ill make sure to cast indiscriminate carnage in stealth next time I can
junior aurora
fotm
junior aurora
you used to cast it
royal lantern
it is actually the dumbest thing ever, lol
wdym, raid has many firebosses, we throw water orbs at them
cunning geyser
any up to date rotation guide?
royal lantern
slow needle
any up to date rotation guide?
Wowhead and Whispyr's vids.
junior aurora
the mutilate isn't in subterfuge
snow plinth
also holy shit whispyrs plater makes bleeds in aoe a million times easier
slow needle
the mutilate isn't in subterfuge
Its not as if you can choose to press it.
cunning geyser
the mutilate isn't in subterfuge
i thougt it would be
junior aurora
the icyveins opener looks correct
snow plinth
also, with AP in keys, do you still hold both shivs for Kingsbane?
mystic osprey
holy shit this group is ass
cunning geyser
Wowhead and Whispyr's vids.
ty
mystic osprey
I cant because they wont interrupt the stun
keen spruce
the icy veins guides are basically all correct
junior aurora
the only thing i see is it doesn't have the garrote after kingsbane
keen spruce
like you can play an m+ pack 1000 different ways
snow plinth
Link <:fucc:1019524257153298532>
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junior aurora
but that garrote isn't necessary
keen spruce
yeah it's not at all cuz you're gonna refresh it in vanish anyways for NS
snow plinth
Link <:fucc:1019524257153298532>
2nd from the bottom in that group of links
junior aurora
just within the window on non-dm kbs
grand trail
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junior aurora
maybe if you stopped typing in here
mystic osprey
nah bruh
junior aurora
you could do something about it
mystic osprey
no way
keen spruce
I just hope you guys realize that Seli wrote the icyveins guide lol
and like
all of the assas TCs kind work in tandem together to work thi stuff out
mystic osprey
you could do something about it
Im on a cd unfortuainately
tan k just dided
puleld too much
keen spruce
skill issue
balmy condor
all of the assas TCs kind work in tandem together to work thi stuff out
all one of me
sturdy mesa
2nd from the bottom in that group of links
Apprecite it 
balmy condor
junior aurora
aoe blind, kidney, kick you got 3 stops right there
keen spruce
all one of me
the royal plural
junior aurora
vanish / shadow dance garrotes will silence everything too
snow plinth
wait
balmy condor
we (me and the 4 voices in my head)
snow plinth
does stealth garrotes silence all 3 targets?
junior aurora
yes
snow plinth
i thought it was just the primary one
junior aurora
its all of em
twilit hollow
we (me and the 4 voices in my head)
i thought it was 5
balmy condor
i thought it was 5
1 of them died
junior aurora
which one
twilit hollow
the one that hated listening to stat weight sims the most
onyx nymph
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junior aurora
So many balls
name of ur sextape
hardy dagger
agile wedge
hey team, do i want pi when i hit deathmark? or whats the best time
royal lantern
name of ur sextape
assa players dont have sex
apm too high
snow plinth
also how does assa do in lower keys? only 447 atm so doubt i can go too high atm
royal lantern
hey team, do i want pi when i hit deathmark? or whats the best time
yes
junior aurora
assa players dont have sex
apm too high
speak for yourself
i know plenty of assassin players that have sex with themselves all the time
near valley
strange python
@balmy condor downside of macro dance to kb?
royal lantern
<@167090536602140682> downside of macro dance to kb?
none
strange python
seriously?
royal lantern
yes
strange python
even in m+?
royal lantern
just dont spamm it off gcd
idk, even in m+ i use them togheter
like
so much of your aoe is in kb
strange python
ok sick
strange python
im gonna have to farm so much everbloom and brh loool
but i think ill have to reroll sin for m progression
low quartz
tiny toxic blade or blindside - what do we prefer
junior aurora
tiny toxic blade or blindside - what do we prefer
blindside
blazing jewel
you dont have to reroll for m progression
nono YOU HAVE TO
mystic osprey
its a 14
junior aurora
you can drag a wet corpse through a 14 with enough dps
bronze pike
then he’s not pressing buttons/beginner
proud monolith
are there some kind of breakpoints for assa stats? droptimizer telling me haste/vers items is better than crit/mastery, is vers rly that good?
junior aurora
no just trust sims
sturdy cipher
Hello, haven’t played rogue since Shadowlands. How fast does assassination play compared to back then? Like do you still have to stop and pool energy frequently?
spice surge
you dont have to reroll for m progression
🚀 🌑
But pi and bl makes my number go big and the brain chemicals happy
junior aurora
Hello, haven’t played rogue since Shadowlands. How fast does assassination play ...
it still pools
proud monolith
yeah i thought i need to farm DHT for the neck, but the very rare neck on 463 is still better than 470 crit/mastery
i was surprised
proud monolith
watch whispyr videos
royal lantern
🚀 🌑
But pi and bl makes my number go big and the brain chemicals happy
pi makes brain unhappy
proud monolith
you can basically play assa after
grim jay
yeah i thought i need to farm DHT for the neck, but the very rare neck on 463 is...
I saw a good few farming BH for the neck rather
grim jay
Nope
proud monolith
I saw a good few farming BH for the neck rather
its not bad ye, i simmed and it says it like 200 dps more than the very rare neck from raid, so prob if i just get a 470 to upgrade the very rare one for free is just better
haughty flicker
just hit them until they die
torn peak
i couldnt figure how to play efficiently on those
grim jay
i couldnt figure how to play efficiently on those
On Totem I just use dance kb and then DM dance kb on the Boss
misty holly
totem boss can be awkward with an augment in group, but just make sure they all die together.
grim jay
Witch you just do your usual ST on the one that takes damage
royal lantern
totem boss can be awkward with an augment in group, but just make sure they all ...
fuck aug this season, biggest trap ever
torn peak
yea but when poison explodes i kill it instant lol
royal lantern
doesnt help that ALL aug players are boosted apes
grim jay
Like are we talking actual Keys corresponding to your ilvl or just some 10s
torn peak
10s 13s
mystic osprey
anyone having problems on totem guy in ataldazar
too much burst with kingsbane
mystic osprey
I feel you
uneven summit
shoulda done 200k
Arterial or DTB?
torn peak
but is it my fault
mystic osprey
Arterial or DTB?
arterial
grim jay
10s 13s
Thats just how low keys go, nothing you can do about it. Id just not use any CDs on the Totem in that case
uneven summit
my man ❤️
grim jay
Hell nah
junior aurora
in a 12 it would be
uneven summit
sims like 2k more for me, but also just feels so much more smooth to play
mystic osprey
sims like 2k more for me, but also just feels so much more smooth to play
fr
I feel like my burst is quicker as well ayu
uneven summit
Idd
grim jay
Doesnt feel too hot in 20s
uneven summit
felt fine for me
mystic osprey
it would be even better in 20s
kindred breach
too much burst with kingsbane
Try to spread your bleeds on all 3 totem first, it should take u about 5-6s to do so and during this your not hitting your totem so damage should align with others when You come back to crush its soul
sweet dawn
I feel like the ST would be better withr blindside
mystic osprey
Try to spread your bleeds on all 3 totem first, it should take u about 5-6s to d...
gotta remember the other dps as well
mystic osprey
I feel like the ST would be better withr blindside
Blindside feels so good
and zoldyk recipe
and arterial helps as well
but its not as good as hybrid
balmy condor
IM FREE
junior aurora
the st is the same with both builds
strange python
I have yet to see 1 drop at all lol
junior aurora
congrats you deserve it man
mystic osprey
cheater