assassination

[arctic tusk]

the macro will make you cast SD before the KB cuz of gcd do right?

[lofty junco]

aye

[devout prism]

Depends on if you hit it quickly after the shiv or have bad ping

[slate crown]

I’ll think about what I can add that visually works with the rest of my pack and doesn’t collide with other bars. Is the concern just not understanding each tick, or not being able to see each tick color (I.e. colorblind)?

[devout prism]

I think you used to have an envenom tracker in the previous pack too, is that moved somewhere?

[slate crown]

It’s in my profile stand-alone

Not at my desk but you can find it by going to my pack and clicking on the author name

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[slate crown]

It’s also still in the pack itself

[devout prism]

Ok ty. It used to be the afenar pack right? When I updated to LE group I couldn't find it but maybe it was something I missed

[nova flax]

It was revealed to me in a dream

[slim hamlet]

[slate crown]

No. Mine is a completely fresh pack. It is a progress bar under your energy bar in my pack, should always be there when you are Sin spec

[nova flax]

https://tenor.com/view/one-punch-man-opm-saitama-source-i-made-it-up-gif-24755713

[shadow helm]

how do i make these kingsbane and deathmark

glow on whispyr's plater

[serene wyvern]

Heya guyz, what does the timestrike stat does?

[spice surge]

Just a random damage proc

[serene wyvern]

Oh, ok thnx

[devout prism]

Ahh yes I see now, I was missing it I think because I used to track it as an icon, thanks

[proper forum]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[slate crown]

Whispyr’s still tracks as an icon I believe if you prefer that, or if you wanted to add that into my pack and disable the bar in mine

[royal lantern]

week 1 aotc achieved

time for mythic tomorrow

[errant willow]

It's necessary in AoE to change target to apply or venoms and bleeds? Or the spread does that for us?

[haughty flicker]

huge

[supple onyx]

is assa randomly ninjapulling in dungeons?

[slate crown]

I haven’t noticed anything weird

[drifting light]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[ashen rose]

is there a macro to cast ambush if available, else cast mutilate?

[slate crown]

For Blindside procs this is unnecessary, the spell auto-converts in the spell book

For stealth, you can make one to flip based on stealth state or bonusbar state

Or you can just use a stealth bar

[hot fulcrum]

hmmm. we had like 5 builds available on wowhead. 2 for raid and 3 for m+. No we have only 2 (raid + m). Does it mean that for M+ now it's best to play with arterial build?

I"m a bit confused)

[slate crown]

Hybrid is still there, pretty sure the build page itself has them all

The cheat sheet page doesn’t list every single build just the most popular ones

[hot fulcrum]

build ues, but on cheat sheets for some reason only 2 listed

[slate crown]

But the builds page still has them all

[nova flax]

The arterial build is good for fort weeks and lower keys where u dont have time to ramp. The DTB SD build will probably be good on tyrannical and higher keys where u can guarantee ull get ur KB ramp off

[hot fulcrum]

2 listed but all 5 were listed like hour ago)

[slate crown]

That is common in wowhead to not list them all. Either way it’s not because one is not viable anymore. Use the build page info

[hot fulcrum]

what is "higher key" for you?)))

[nova flax]

Im able to get a full KB ramp off in 21s right now

Once were all geared id say like 25s ish

[lofty junco]

https://tenor.com/view/deathwing-dragon-fire-flying-burning-gif-27538051

[hot fulcrum]

omg. me with my 16th keys atm))

still don't know how to play assa)))

[devout prism]

Indiscriminate Carnage will duplicate garrote and rupture a couple of times every time you get to stealth, vanish, or shadow dance. It's a 10 second window of opportunity to spread them. Fan of Knives will also apply weapon poisons, depending on talents

[royal lantern]

and got 4 set now

@earnest remnant 4set gang

[hazy moth]

!fii

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[royal lantern]

with only 1 normal piece

[slate crown]

[wet ruin]

does sudden demise not trigger sometimes or am I greatly overestimating its damage

[nova flax]

I spent all day yesterday pugging everblooms at like 16-20 for branch and ran the AP build for all of them

Blasted every key. AP def the move

[light goblet]

Is there anything different we do in AoE with 4 set?

[spice surge]

Nop

[lunar sleet]

Anyone have wa for stack's from Witherbark's Branch?

[light goblet]

Envenom at 5 ragets and crimson tempest at 6+?

[iron sentinel]

what ilvl are people in 10+ keys rolling with on avg... just came back from a long break and cant get invited to anything at ilvl445

and not sure what is normal

[devout prism]

depends on the threshold for HP and how juiced your bleeds are

[earnest remnant]

sim check

[devout prism]

there's one in LE's group

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[slate crown]

Yeah. Guess I should get up so I can actually link things. But if you want to go find it in my profile you can go look, it’s a progress bar for orb catching

[wet ruin]

I have like full bleeds on a target and I never see it proc sometimes

and when it does I can notice it

[lunar sleet]

thx guys

[royal lantern]

yeha yeha, lower then you, no daggers and no branch

[nova flax]

Keep CT up on anything above 2

[royal lantern]

but gimme a sec

[nova flax]

2 or more**

[wet ruin]

surely sudden demice executes when they are on like 200-300k?

[nova flax]

Ive noticed that too

Ive also seen it do like a mil when deathmark is up

[sharp swallow]

Do we play around Sanguine Blades in m+ boss fights? or is it a kinda if it happens it happens type beat

[devout prism]

this is how monks must feel with touch of death except this is on like every pack haha

[slate crown]

Yeah I’ve had demise yoink the last KB tick (and it’s spatter damage…) away from me on a DM target way too often

[bleak ivy]

how many aspect crests to make it enchanted?

[devout prism]

60

[bleak ivy]

thanks

[devout prism]

3 runs basically

[bleak ivy]

yeah

easy work

[restive inlet]

So, what's with the Ashes trinket? Every guide sasy to go Pip's+branch, but when I droptimize (and on bloodmallet) ashes is just waaay ahead. Am I missing something?

[devout prism]

also you buy the thing from a vendor with the 60 crests instead of just using the crests directly for some reason

[bleak ivy]

Wheres the vendor?

[spice surge]

By the enchanting trainer

[bleak ivy]

Bet thanks

excited to make theese fkin boots already

[royal lantern]

ashes is good, branch is better overall

ashes has no annoying gameplay part

idk, i can imagine branch beeing slightly shity on mythic smolderon lol

[slate crown]

Too many balls

[restive inlet]

I'm more thinking why does guides say pip's over ashes?

[royal lantern]

when they touch, you get obsidian balls

[royal lantern]

cus double active is no thing?

not this tier atleast

[restive inlet]

ah

[warped lily]

You think this will be the meta?

[fleet pagoda]

what are the chances of arterial shock being sleeper for tyran, with the 2mins returning in time for execute range?

or am i on some hopium

[slate crown]

Why hopium

[fleet pagoda]

dtb is just so reliable

[slate crown]

Shock is good ST, good cleave

[thorny pond]

Pros and cons to both. Hybrid sims better ST for me right now

[fleet pagoda]

is that for a 5min sim?

[slate crown]

So is hybrid but like both good

[thorny pond]

3

[fleet pagoda]

interesting, ty

[thorny pond]

Yes hybrid means multiple profiles lol

[bleak ivy]

dont look at this shit lol

play what u like

you can play outlaw and still get shit on by an assasination easily

[runic hinge]

yes

[strange python]

this thing any good

[real stirrup]

silence?

[onyx crane]

iron wire

[frozen niche]

it does

for large packs that last longer than 30 sec in hgih keys, do you wait until your first improved garrote starts to expire then used shadow dance kingsbane and refresh them?

or do you just slowly reapply on cd the whole fight

[lament dagger]

quick question regarding that. my weakauras that track my bleeds ONLY show the "empowered" (by subterfuge) indicator on targets that i specifically cast garrote/rupture on, not for the ones that spread.

this has me confused since i was under the assumption that bleeds spread by IC will also be empowered on off targets. can anyone confirm?

[slate crown]

It empowers them

[strange python]

I'm pretty sure whispyr's shows it on the spread

[slate crown]

Mine shows on the spread

[lament dagger]

ok so i was right and gotta fix the WA thanku

[strange python]

I yoinked his garrote wa and pretty sure i tested that

[lament dagger]

yeah i use a heavily customized version of luxthos'

[balmy condor]

This happens naturally cause you’re spreading bleeds from the stealth carnage before going into cds

[strange python]

just replace your garrote with his

[lament dagger]

thanks for confirming, will do that

[oblique wasp]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842817103354658817/1154475731108249700/image.png

[frozen niche]

yeah im saying after my burst cds and dots are falling in aoe

just hope were to the next pack by then?

[balmy condor]

Well then you have vanish

[strange python]

your rupture being up doesn't factore into you using dance/kb - i think that's what you're asking.

just send

well it does - in the sense that you want it up first

but i'm saying you wouldn't wait 30 sec

[balmy condor]

What

[strange python]

"do you wait until your first improved garrote starts to expire then used shadow dance kingsbane and refresh them?"

[oblique wasp]

/wa

pardon me

[strange python]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[frozen niche]

yeah reapplying garrote and suchwhen carnage isnt up

do i just slowly reapply while aoeing

or just hope the mobs die soon and not worry about it

[strange python]

you just full send

then follow the prio list

[neat rain]

Hey you boys are getting Nick of Time from Fall right not Rise?

[balmy condor]

You always want to maintain enough bleeds to have energy if the mobs live long enough

[brazen zodiac]

👍

[neat rain]

I've ran 20 Falls not a single dagger drop

[strange python]

yeah i got mine from fall

[lament dagger]

i think they're asking that when you see your empowered garrotes falling off soon (cuz they fall off at the same time) , if they should start overwriting empowered garrotes before that happens just to keep uptime

but i think the answer is no, just vanish reapply?

[strange python]

I always rupture in my vanish (in my last 3 sec of my KB) so i dont notice that happening.

[tulip tendon]

Im on run 29

[strange python]

I dunno if that's wrong or not

[tulip tendon]

😦

[strange python]

but whispyr's weakaura flashes at me

i just trust the guy, what can i say

[balmy condor]

If flashes cause you could not necessarily that you want to, but yeh in aoe rupture during vanish is fine

[strange python]

i'm just a "send it" kinda guy maybe

it lights up - gets sent

nocap frfr

[velvet ridge]

M+ is more fluid, theres not a forsure answer, sometimes you wanna shadow dance vanish for damage, sometimes to spread more bleeds, it's situation based, how fast mobs die, are you chain pulling. Just practice and feel it out

[lament dagger]

btw sorry if thats explained somewhere but just curious cause you mentioned it: why do some top parses seem to ignore empowered rupture uptime and just envenom in dance/vanish?

in ST that is

[strange python]

What happened to Instant Dollars

[dapper hound]

I hope not 😦

[quartz prawn]

is roll the bones the best weak aura for rogue?

[balmy condor]

They’re 6/9

[lament dagger]

love you thanks a lot

[balmy condor]

Np

[devout prism]

most RWF guilds focus on the ground work that will get them the final boss kill first rather than racing to get the first 6 or w/e

[strange python]

yeah cool to see an underdog up there in the running

[vapid sierra]

how does raid gear comparep to m+

[balmy condor]

Are they an underdog

[strange python]

As far as like "well-known" "super popular" yeah i think so

[balmy condor]

Instant dollars has always been one of the guilds that gets early kills and then falls off

[strange python]

yeah

[lucid rain]

what %s does 3rd boss phase in galakrond's fall?

[haughty flicker]

the slime boi?

[lucid rain]

yeah

[balmy condor]

80 and 50 I think

[haughty flicker]

75% and 50% afaik

or 80 yeah

[lucid rain]

[haughty flicker]

something like that

[lucid rain]

lol thanks

[indigo mulch]

Is smolderon still bugged?

[tulip tendon]

Ive gotten everything but Nick of time and the trinket in fall

[balmy condor]

I didn’t know he was bugged in the first place what’s wrong with him

[runic hinge]

bombs were double exploding

but that's fixed

[indigo mulch]

[empty walrus]

is it an ok thing to macro kingsbane to shadow dance? or should that not be a thing?

[indigo mulch]

You can but not recommended.

[balmy condor]

What

[strange python]

why is it not recommended?

[balmy condor]

No

Do it

[haughty flicker]

i recommend

[indigo mulch]

wat

why

[raw python]

if using arterial precision talents which poisons are we using

[balmy condor]

Everyone’s using a dance+kb macro

[empty walrus]

like ive been practicing the rotation, and realizing im only ever hitting it right after shadowdance

[balmy condor]

The ones you talent into

[empty walrus]

so wanted to double check here

[indigo mulch]

FINE

I'm wrong, do it.

[devout prism]

just make sure shadow dance is before King's Bane in case you hit it in a free GCD

[indigo mulch]

😦

[eternal heath]

Time to rewatch whispyr and maybe stop griefing keys

[haughty flicker]

yeah just make sure shadow dance is first

[eternal heath]

Gotta let someone else keep us from getting nerfed

[empty walrus]

ok cool, thats going to help a lot

[haughty flicker]

nah i watched all his videos and still grief keys

[empty walrus]

any other macro's you guys reccomend?

[eternal heath]

[strange python]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-me-nicky-jam-this-is-who-i-am-my-place-my-identity-gif-20039925

[empty walrus]

ive been practicing on target dummies for like 2 hours yesterday and today

[balmy condor]

Just that and like Deathmark + trinket + potion

[empty walrus]

about to try my first key soon with it

[balmy condor]

Unless you’re using ashes cause like

Can’t use that on dm

[empty walrus]

nah unfortunately my trinket situation still sucks

[eternal heath]

got me beat

[strange python]

i'm just gonna get that phatty conquest on-use 1 min-cd trinket and call it a day. Keep my life simple.

[empty walrus]

oof

[haughty flicker]

thats cursed

[balmy condor]

[urban bay]

Is it still a safe bet to macro withersbark into deathmark and grab 2 then wait to grab the orb about 6-7 seconds or what’s the most optimal way to use that trinket

[balmy condor]

Yes

[urban bay]

Okay, I’ve been playing around with it and just trying to find the best way to juice Kb

[indigo mulch]

I got an ashes from normal, it aint bad.

No witherbark yet ;C

[neat rain]

After daggers I think I'm gonna farm for my trinkets

[bleak ivy]

So Method caught up to echo xd?

[main solar]

ooo, is witherbark not on gcd?

[indigo mulch]

You witherbark with deathmark

[neat rain]

Is branch drop as bad as dice was last season?

[urban bay]

I got witherbark champion in my first run as outlaw, then a sandglass my second run of fall, the universe said to me, your done with this pew pew spec, it’s time to switch 😂

[hexed willow]

aren't all drops the same percentage

[haughty flicker]

a bunch of guilds are 6/9, everything before smoldy is easy and hes a wall

[bleak ivy]

Echo got 5% on him I think

[empty walrus]

any good garrote/rupture weak auras

[bleak ivy]

Isnt smolderon bugged or was he fixed

[haughty flicker]

fixed

[slate crown]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[slate crown]

Most of those packs will have garrote/rupture weakauras which track empowered

[empty walrus]

I use Luxtho's entire weak aura

[strange python]

i think i just stole luxthos and put them into my own group

[empty walrus]

but i wasnt sure if I should get a seperate Garrote/Rupture weak aura to watch more closely

[quick stag]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[solid skiff]

Use whatever works for you. I'm using Devlin's without issue on it

[slate crown]

Well here are my standalones if you want them
Garrote: https://wago.io/zxhRObQLf
Rupture: https://wago.io/Ama4BmF-9

I don't know about luxthos

But any aura that tracks them is fine

[little chasm]

Crimson tempest is also a Snapshot dot ?

Hi*

[glossy imp]

hey big brains, is there a macro or in game function that lets me target the last mob I was targeting? I keep losing my kb target when I go to cc a ghost

[devout prism]

/targetlasttarget

[velvet ridge]

Personally I like to color my name plates for missing ruptures, tried it out this season and really like it. Rather then just my wa

[turbid sandal]

So I've been using the "hybrid" spec in keys, but the sims say the regular M+ spec does much higher dps, not sure if I can trust that though?

[devout prism]

you could set a focus macro too if you're concerned, OR use a mouseover macro for your CC so that you don't have to swap off

or just let the healer and tank do it

[indigo mulch]

btw, do you get free tier from hc fyrrak and 2k? or is it one or the other?

[devout prism]

AOTC or 2k M+ score or Challenger II PvP rank

[indigo mulch]

[slate crown]

You only get one token IIRC

[junior aurora]

2k m+ is pretty free by next week

its a little difficult this week but next week basically free

[stark mirage]

I got whispyrs plater, but there is no m+ colored mobs, is there a new version up that has it? Or can I import a mod/script that just adds colored mobs and keep the whispyr version I have?

[devout prism]

Curios used to randomly drop from Sark and Raza too but I think everyone rolls on them now for fyrakk

[junior aurora]

no curios from raza but it was personal loot on sark

[velvet ridge]

I started coloring my caustic spatter target (usually kb) green, to help me keep track of it in a large hectic pull, maybe itll help you out too, on top of that function you are looking for

[devout prism]

oh yeah raza just had like helm or something

[shut owl]

the sims aren't an exact 1:1 for each dungeon/string of encounters, use your gut instinct to figure out which is gonna get you more value

I've been alternating builds depending on how much prio damage the group has/what key

[severe sparrow]

you can import the scripts for the parts of one plater pack and put them into another pack

[random quarry]

Guys I need serious help. I feel like I am terrible at this game. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/HTPf7bDx2zK8cgLR

[strange python]

confirmed

[random quarry]

Can someone please help me out?

[velvet ridge]

But what you could do is macro focus target into kingsbane button, then have a separate way to refocus that target

[shut owl]

not taking caustic spatter on fights with aoe burst like gnarlroot is kinda troll

[rotund oak]

''kinda''

[royal lantern]

aoe is padding

only boss dmg is ethical

[shut owl]

just tag a mob and now your spatter is boss damage /s

[rotund oak]

playing a class that thrives in murder and plunder

talking about ethical afterwards

😄

thats some big brain

[lucid rain]

hypocrisy is just another tool in a rogue's belt

don't think too hard on it

[royal lantern]

mate, i play rogue cus its fun

im no shity edgelord in 2023

[rotund oak]

hahaha

[royal lantern]

get out of the early 2000

[rotund oak]

im trolling u

[royal lantern]

black and red is not cool anymore

[storm forum]

im the shifty edge lord in 2023

[rotund oak]

black is always cool

[lucid rain]

black and red is always in style

[royal lantern]

we grew up, its hugs and cute stuff now

[rotund oak]

and if u play DH u deserve eternal torment

in wow hell

[slate crown]

Volcoros you shiv after you KB/Dance, and then you didn't vanish during kingsbane, you saved it for much later, looks like to refresh garrote? Not the play, you want to use vanish with 3 sec remamining on KB. You also didn't tea in the last 6 sec of KB

[storm forum]

The real lore accurate rogue tmog is the yeti onesie, cause no one expects the cutie cosplayer to start stabbing

[slate crown]

Oh and no second shiv in KB

[rotund oak]

💯

btw

anyone crafted the boots already?

[frozen niche]

why do you vanish with 3 sec left?

[vapid sierra]

Do we not wanna drop below 50% energy on at?

[royal lantern]

ye

[vapid sierra]

St

[slate crown]

Why is your Dream Eater dagger cast seem to be bound in with kingsbane?

[slate crown]

Master assassin

[frozen niche]

oh it applies to kingsbane

thats nuts

ty

[rotund oak]

i need 1 more key and im crafting them as well but im cringing hard to tanks rn

eveyrone thinks is dorki

[severe sparrow]

do you all have your garrotes and ruptures on mouseover for keys or are you tabbing/clicking?

[rotund oak]

i wanna break their screen and smash their heads

[random quarry]

I don't really know what it does so I just macro'd and forgot.

[rotund oak]

im clicking on plater frames

[slate crown]

I mean it's not going to harm anything but like, why lol doesn't give any damage benefit

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842817103354658817/1154475731108249700/image.png

[tulip tendon]

run 30 no dagger time for another

[storm forum]

During cds you wanna play normally, cast as much as possible. Outside of cds, without new tier, try to stay above 50%. With tlnew tier we will do these env chains, where we pool to Max-ish (probably 80%) and then mut to 4+ env in pandemic over and over until we hit 0 and then pool again until high energy or CDs come up.

[lofty junco]

do we only use finisher with 6CP?

[devout prism]

4cp

[storm forum]

4 5 or 6 cp

On 4, you can either finish or use another builder depending on the situation

The more crit you have, the more correct it will probably be to finish on 4

[light sky]

boots + patch or 2 blue linen for m+ ?

[coral sierra]

where is the warmode weekly quest?

[pulsar apex]

You could build with a needed Garrotte tho right? It would only ever 2cp

[slate crown]

azure span

[storm forum]

Yeah if you're outside of a stealth effect and on 4 or 5 and env/rup won't drop, you can use a gar

[river cipher]

Linen for M+

[polar bridge]

anyone got a branch WA?

[storm forum]

I'm going to prioritize boots and toxic patch, but I'll try BSL later in the season.

[slate crown]

https://wago.io/q7bHLuILp

[polar bridge]

perfect ty

[shadow copper]

Got 2 bis trinkets. Which one should i use frist with deathmark ? agi boost or mastery?

[coral sierra]

where in azure lol sorry im blind

[dark token]

fuck kingsbane

[shut owl]

your KB value is kinda low, practice optimizing your opener, since it seems to be less scuffed on the 2minute cd reset... there shouldn't be that big of a difference unless PI/lust is involved.
you also seem to be missing shadow dances on some of these kills I see 4 casts of SD on Igira, but the fight is 5:41, so there should be 5.

[devout prism]

Lol is that just one 40m sudden demise on Ozumat

[slate crown]

oh I just meant that's where the sparks weekl yquest tells you to go, from valdrakken, idn I don't pvp

[dark token]

[devout prism]

BEHOLD THE POWER OF PURE WATER

[shut owl]

seems legit

[slate crown]

yeah fuck KB it can't pop a 40m demise

but seriously sounds like you've been leaning heavy into bleeds

[devout prism]

That timestrike on Ozumat is hilarious

[slate crown]

lmao

[keen spruce]

we're finally in raid

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/stelmosfire-fire-fire-elmo-elmo-fire-elmo-gif-15929544

[strange python]

gawd

nerfs when

[steel geyser]

what does the second paragraph means

[random quarry]

thank you for responses

[storm forum]

Shmeepy god

[shut owl]

when your health goes below 30% or something it automatically turns on

[steel geyser]

thx

[shut owl]

can be really scuffed if someone early-pulls and the boss decides to slap you hard

[storm forum]

It turn fire puddles into FH council boss puddles

[shut owl]

our boomkins have forgotten how long their casts take and pulled on 4, sniping me so many times t-t

[devout prism]

Does it eat the CD too?

[steel geyser]

since ashe use is decreasing, is there any common usage to not use it coupled with dm ?

but later

in the burst ?

[soft shale]

in raid it procs way diff

you need like 9 people to die

[steel geyser]

oh

[shut owl]

? I've had it proc just from me getting slapped on pull pretty consistently, must be some extra conditionals or something

[devout prism]

Could be that you were in combat before everyone else at that point

[shut owl]

could be, but odd since I didn't pull, and was holding shroud t-t

I've had an absurd amount of cheat death "value" from prepulls this week

but I also had an amazing 20% damage via bonespike cuz our tank took cleave through melee over and over on council XD

[soft shale]

i will try it next raid

[shut owl]

so its been a trip

[devout prism]

Probably just has the extra conditions in raid since otherwise people would just eat a puddle to activate it

[soft shale]

but im pretty sure they changed it

[rugged panther]

Hey everyone! I'm new to the server and just dinged 70 on my Rogue, anyone have any tips for gearing up now?

[keen spruce]

@gusty mirage

[shut owl]

spicy

[keen spruce]

4 cheeseburgers

[rugged panther]

Nice stats but ultimately unhelpful

[sour thunder]

Just wanna ask about scaling, Im 426 Sin and 440-442 people(other specs) do like 1.5-2x more DPS. Is it how it is or Im just bad?

[rugged panther]

Let me rephrase, I'm also pretty new to WoW and I'm looking for some guidance

[knotty bear]

how does exactly sanguine blades work? does it come into effect when you use rupture and garrote above 50% energy or you have to constantly be at >50% for it to work?

[slim pebble]

The latter

[knotty bear]

oke so the goal is to always be above 50% or at least during kingsbane window?

[flint tusk]

It is dynamic so even if you apply rupture and garrote below 50% if you pool above it Sanguine will start to trigger on them

Single target never play around sanguine

M+ you should always be above 50% energy if you have enough bleeds up

[knotty bear]

ah ok I thought its huge part of the dps

[flint tusk]

nope it's a passive bonus when starting your envenom chain and during lust

[hexed willow]

So simming wise, arterial and hybrid both sim the same. Anyone have a preference of which they like better? No t31 tier

They both feel fairly similar to play too

[ocean ginkgo]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[velvet ridge]

does shiv pandemic?

[velvet vault]

can someone link remove ambush proc macro please ?

[slate crown]

I like arterial because A) blindside procs are nice and B) poison bomb, at least for me, seems to cover up some ground visuals and is annoying. Arterial avoids this by not taking poison bomb

[spice surge]

That is only when you are solo

In mythic raiding its after 10 people have died im pretty sure

[runic hinge]

Plus you can’t use crippling poison this week with sanguine

[devout prism]

I like the arterial build better since the sudden demise procs seem more satisfying. It helps keep up on packs where things die quickly as well.

[lucid silo]

im not sure how sudden demise actually works

[devout prism]

The boss damage doesn't seem that much worse than the hybrid build

[lucid silo]

its not happening sometimes

[hexed willow]

Makes sense. Have been fucking up a ton of mechanics learning sin m+, but it’s been a ton of fun

And my hands finally get to rest from law

[keen spruce]

tindral

[velvet vault]

Please

[lavish quarry]

not sure if I'm getting this correct but, am I to use any finishers with 4/6 cp and not try to hit 5/6 or 6/6?

[slate crown]

Why do you need this

[drifting cedar]

Guys do we, in AoE, cast our burst on the tankiest mob?

[slate crown]

Toxic Spatter now applies with ambush

[keen spruce]

there's never a reason you should do this

[sharp elk]

Someone helped me out and I made a separate weak aura for it but I was just looking for something more blatant to tell me when to shiv/tea

[royal lantern]

IT HAPPEND

[slim hamlet]

Nice photoshop bozo

It doesn't exist

[hexed willow]

Would make sense

Thats at least what I do

[hexed willow]

I’ve seen 3 now

I have 0

[slate crown]

Makes sense, sounds good

[slim hamlet]

I have only seen the ones being posted in here

Actually nevermind a tank dmg hunter got one

not salty about that

[royal lantern]

worst players get the best loot

always

in every game

[slim hamlet]

But

U just got the loot

[royal lantern]

yes

[slim hamlet]

[hexed willow]

Ur being toxic again

[fading shuttle]

This is true.

[velvet vault]

i want to do more damage in my kingsbane window

[slate crown]

It isn't more damage to cancel your blindside proc

[split veldt]

is there a trick to caustic spatter, or just do normal rotation

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[brazen fern]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

The following is a general recommendation, but you will always get more accurate results through simming your gear through Top Gear.
Crit >= Mastery > Haste > Versatility
Note: In high mythic+ keys, you may want more Versatility to survive. While you may see this on high end players gear, this is generally worse DPS. For pure DPS, Versatility is mostly avoided.

[dark token]

Branch is weird

I feel I am doing less dmg with it than ashes

Maybe I'm just messing up the orbs?

[spice surge]

At what time left of kingsbane do you ashes? I cba searching through the guide

[dark token]

11s

[spice surge]

Many thanks

[dark token]

Or macro it to kingsbane for 0.3% loss

[royal lantern]

isnt it just like

macro with dm

collect 2 fast

and the last like 2/3 into the buff gone

[random quarry]

okay so in opener last 3 seconds of kingsbane vanish gaarrote and then envenom or rupture?

[junior aurora]

just had the weirdest experience, get to first boss of everbloom

[royal lantern]

rupture

[junior aurora]

tank says 1 min

everyone drops group

[tulip tendon]

I swear nick of time doesnt exist, Ive gotten 4 chest pieces and 2 gloves and 2 legs so far

[deft vault]

i got one after like 25 runs

[random quarry]

should we be not casting until above 50% energy?

[solid void]

Lads is the St rotation on wowhead up to date? I'm about to smash 1h on target dummy

[muted canyon]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[dark token]

Yeah

[tulip tendon]

Im about to start run 31

[dark token]

But in m+ I'm often moving with the pull

[tulip tendon]

DH tank has both timestrike weapons

[dark token]

So the orbs follow behind me slow

And either time out or it's bad timing

[tulip tendon]

Ima do 5 more runs this weekend then call it quits til reset

[keen spruce]

[warm urchin]

When playing the shock build in m+, do you guys use one shiv outside of kingsbane ever? Or still save both for kingsbane windows?

[muted haven]

hello guys, question during opener/vanish usage;

is it better to vanish during the last seconds of kingsbane with master assassin and have it line up with the next deathmark (prob 10s desync tho) OR is it just better to hold vanish for higher improved garrote uptime and rely on shadowdance windows to get proper deathmarks?

wowhead mentions doing both of these things but doesnt specify whats better

[coral sierra]

hybrid or shock build for 15-20?

[gusty mirage]

ayo

[stiff vale]

You want to vanish the last 3 sec of kingsbane because of master assassin

For shadow dance you just cast it right before kingsbane every time

[muted haven]

gotcha

[keen spruce]

[solid void]

300k.... Sweet lord

[turbid sandal]

lol how

[hexed willow]

Sweet Christmas

that PI is helping

[solid void]

Mary Jesus and Joseph

[turbid sandal]

Did he die within the burst window? lol

[keen spruce]

spatter go brr

almost

oh also 1.7m kb crit tick

in damage amp

[turbid sandal]

jesus lol

[solid void]

4p?

[keen spruce]

[pine dew]

when shall i start pooling energy wise?

if in red zone should i wait till greenzone of whispyrs wa

[neat horizon]

is it worth crafting a 450 toxic boots now and upgrading it with the aspect crests later ?

[pine dew]

@balmy condor if i dont got the new set yet, do i have to still chain?

[hexed willow]

If you don’t have an embellishment, yes

[neat horizon]

i do, i got the slimy ones, same slot

[lucid silo]

whats the dps loss on fucking up pooling

[balmy condor]

you would maximize uptime on sanguine

[sudden brook]

[lavish quarry]

in m+, should I be using tempest only to keep the debuff up or ?

[pine dew]

so staying above 50%

2 day old sin 😄

[royal lantern]

unplayable

my dps goes into the "heal the boss" levels

[keen spruce]

[slate crown]

What does “check the pooling on KB” mean?

[torn peak]

i had problems on totem boss in atal dazar

as sin

whats the best play there

[balmy condor]

that's pooling for energy before cds

[torn peak]

to not fuck up with insta dot explode

at %35 hp

[royal lantern]

?

[sick abyss]

so tldr with pooling is, smash energy in cooldowns, outside of cool downs press as little buttons as possible to get evenom going

[royal lantern]

it doesnt explode at 35% lol

[royal lantern]

yes

in cd spam

outside of cd maintain

[sick abyss]

this is like

chill boomer spec

[balmy condor]

smash during cds, chain envenoms together

[royal lantern]

idk man, its more involved then most other specs at this point lol

NOT pressing abilitys and instead using them for something else is more thinking then just spamming 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 all the time

[sick abyss]

so boomer spec

🙂

more think less press press gotcha

[royal lantern]

we are all boomers on this blessed day

[sick abyss]

big true homie

[agile osprey]

@keen spruce @pure moth Any luck yet dagger bros?

[sharp swallow]

do we like Ashes of embersoul?

smolderon trinket?

[gusty mirage]

yes

[sharp swallow]

rolled a fat 2

womp womp

[vocal basin]

do we macro branch into deathmark

[keen spruce]

back to the mines

afterthis

raid

[agile osprey]

Ayo

[balmy condor]

I've seen the staff drop 6 times

no dagger

[royal lantern]

ive seen the chest drop 5x

[keen spruce]

stealthi ran it 4 times

[agile osprey]

[royal lantern]

[keen spruce]

and got 2 hero track ones

[balmy condor]

will be impossible for me to parse next week

[raven merlin]

me 3 runs, 2 daggers

[balmy condor]

people are already omega juiced

[keen spruce]

i'm yoinking all of my heroic parses for the tier today

then just pray that i can catch up in mythic later

[agile osprey]

The hardest part is just getting into a galakronds fall. Half the time the key starts and its the other wing

[celest drift]

10 runs, 0 daggers

[agile osprey]

I can't complain too much though

[fallow acorn]

yeah, I'm almost at 15, no dagger

trinket tho

[fickle mirage]

is sin better than outlaw?

[gusty mirage]

small indie company, be more forgiving with the lfg bugs

[gusty mirage]

in what context

[pine dew]

was is higher prio daggers or trinket?

[fickle mirage]

M+/Raid

[gusty mirage]

no/yes if getting pi/aug

[fickle mirage]

k, thanks

[fallow acorn]

I make them confirm it's Fall first

or I dip

[agile osprey]

I'm friends with the hpal in your guild. He's too geared for a healer already

[gusty mirage]

kiriko?

[agile osprey]

yeah

[gusty mirage]

@dull wadi are you cheating on me with another rogue?

[shy pecan]

[agile osprey]

Homie lurks in here too?

[gusty mirage]

he's an absolute gamer

so it makes sense

[agile osprey]

We used to game together in heroic only guild back in nathria

now i just use him for io

[gusty mirage]

he keeps me safe in raid 🥲

my survivability went up by 50% easily when he joined

[silver escarp]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842817103354658817/1154475731108249700/image.png

[worn igloo]

at which point in the Kingsbane windows do we want PI?

[agile osprey]

If you play the amongus theme during raid he'll 100 parse every time

[gusty mirage]

with deathmark right before you press KB is fine

[worn igloo]

aight

[fallen forge]

get out

[copper musk]

How do you use witherbark branc correctly? get all stacks at once or one at a time?

[pine dew]

what is higher prio daggers or trinket?

[gusty mirage]

I mean

idk how to answer your question

what daggers and what trinket

and why is there a need to prio either

big ilvl for MH is the single largest source of DPS for all melee

[lucid rain]

2 stacks then get third

[gusty mirage]

and a good on use trinket juices your kingsbane

[copper musk]

thank you

[elfin mist]

Anyone else suffering frequent random destealths? It happens the most around teleporters like in rise and fall, but I have seen it on zone transitions too. Makes me think there is an aura buff doing it when I get in range of a party member. Maybe from Voice of the Silent Star?

[gusty mirage]

do you have the sark cloak

yeah

it's 100% sark cloak

[agile osprey]

Thats what's doing it

?

dammit

[gusty mirage]

yep

[elfin mist]

Argh

[gusty mirage]

I'm taking a DPS loss with a 463 shitter cloak

because it's broken shrouds

[elfin mist]

Guess I will do the same. Thanks

[gusty mirage]

it's something weird with subterfuge

[elfin mist]

So many things are.

[finite mountain]

hi guys i have a question, i didnt finds anything about a stat hardcap, my assa got around 80 mastery and 36crit, 10 haste. isnt that too much mastery ? is there a hardcap ? what dop you think ??

[elfin mist]

I am not a fan of having subterfuge back between the bugs and stealth bar lag. I remember copying over all my skills to my base bar a decade ago and it is still not fixed.

[buoyant herald]

no such thing as a hard cap anymore

[hexed willow]

What do the sims say

[pure moth]

Nah. I did get branch though! How about you ?

[finite mountain]

so its fine with 80% mastery ? i thought maybe 20 less mastery and more haste for ST ? idk .. still playing hybrid tree

my sim:
Agility

14.90

Haste

11.06

Critical Strike

8.92

Versatility

8.67

Mastery

7.99

Off Hand Weapon DPS

1.89

Weapon DPS

75.33

[buoyant herald]

you should worry less about what % stats you have (including stat weight sims)

and run top gear sims, which will tell you the best combo of what you have available

[eternal heath]

I feel like I am not throwing out enough bleeds overall

[pure moth]

Is it worth making a group again? Or might be harder now id assume

[finite mountain]

okay, last time i spend on my rogue was at legion and there was stat hardcap thats why i am asking, thank you!

[agile osprey]

I mean if one of us gets a key I suppose we could form a group

[gusty mirage]

stat weight sims

[buoyant herald]

yeah lots has changed since then!

[clever niche]

just had a hunter tell me priest friend off for giving me PI in a key LUL

[finite mountain]

last question, you guys play hybrid build in m+ or ap ? feels like ap is better overall

[pure moth]

Ill save it if i get it then

[buoyant herald]

last time this was asked, the guide writer's response was "it literally doesn't matter, play whichever you prefer"

[twilit hollow]

@gusty mirage

[icy cliff]

wtf is shock build

[bleak eagle]

I always want shadow dance and kingsbane pressed together right?

[gusty mirage]

same

[twilit hollow]

when stat weight sim question

[storm forum]

How are Fall and Everbloom for PUGing? Like will I hate my life if I PUG a 17? I've just been doing lower keys cause I was worried about PUGing being rogue higher up.

[buoyant herald]

the dude literally has a sprout next to his name, give him a break 😂

[eternal heath]

arterial precision

[gusty mirage]

yeppers, only time that might change is in keys

[hexed willow]

What’s your bleed uptime?

[gusty mirage]

when you'd dance to spread bleeds

[storm forum]

why did whispyr call it shock?

[eternal heath]

afraid to see

[storm forum]

is there a meme im missing?

[eternal heath]

I wondered if that was an old name

[twilit hollow]

wasnt shock the name of it when it was sofo tier set

[hexed willow]

Arterial shock isn’t it?

[storm forum]

The namesake talent is called "Arterial Precision"

[hexed willow]

Well shit

Time to search the internet

Related to the pvp talent system shock?

[eternal heath]

Also talking mostly for keys. I do have a couple logged, but I know I am definitely doing something wrong

Or at least not enough right

[storm forum]

im pretty sure whispyr's opinion of rogue pvp is disdainful at best

[hexed willow]

If there’s 5 mobs, are you getting rupture/garrote on all of them

Yeah I got nothing Lani :/

[storm forum]

a mystery for the ages

[balmy condor]

ctrl+f is a hell of a drug

[storm forum]

whispyr no

[stable meteor]

what do you guys have your camera distance at?

[storm forum]

you ruined the mystery

[eternal heath]

first person

[sullen mural]

i like AP KB IC Demise

[eternal heath]

Should be

Although apparently tab targeting is more cumbersome than it is worth

[balmy condor]

whatever the max is when I scroll my mouse backwards

[storm forum]

I used to have mouseover macros for my DoTs, got rid of them when IC came out but it might be time to bring them back

[sullen mural]

Really gotta go through all the plater options to make targets not affected by rupture+garrote have a different color

Surely theres an option for it

[stable atlas]

what is your guys general approach if a pack lives through the initial appliance of bleeds and you have 5+ mobs or even chainpull more, do you FoK and rupture until u get 5 ruptures running again or just send caustic spatter on a healthy target?

[eternal heath]

Actually yikes, looking at that 15 BRH from last night, although a portion may b e bats too

[burnt venture]

Cam distance all the way out except in WCM and BRH

Shit be claustrophobic in there

[torn peak]

which poisons are you running on shock build? deadly/crippling?

or depends on dungeon

[storm forum]

yeah more or less, gar on CD, maintain CT, and build back to 5 rups

[balmy condor]

you're not talenting into numbing/atrophic?

[eternal heath]

Yeah I think part of it is with being on a 1440p monitor, things are smaller overall and at a glance I can't tell which is garrote and which is rupture on plater

[storm forum]

if dance is coming back up, might replace an env with a rup inside it too

[stable atlas]

alright, just feels super horrible spreading stuff without dance/vanish

[arctic tusk]

you guys binding kingsbane or just leaving it on SD macro and forgetting

[torn peak]

@balmy condor i have numbing

[eternal heath]

Yeah I haven't really touched plater customization so that may be something to check

[balmy condor]

then use that

would be weird to talent into it and not use it eh?

[eternal heath]

I have macro for raid, split for keys

[torn peak]

deadly and numbing then

[sullen mural]

Crippling in sanguine week

[storm forum]

ive been binding KB to the same button as dance on my stealth bar, but I think I might just macro it. Sometimes I forget I desync them on trash, and then my KB is 5 seconds late on a boss and i feel dumb

I've legit been putting on and clicking off my crippling poison and its so ass

[eternal heath]

Yeah normally opposite for me lol. Pop SD for trash to keep spreading, realize it is like 5s off my KB

[storm forum]

like i want crippling for a bunch of bosses

[dark token]

I mean

I just sync them

If I shadow dance in m+

[gilded oasis]

crippling is fine just tell the tank to kite better

ez

[dark token]

I just use kingsbane too?

Idk

[gusty mirage]

crippling doesn't apply to bosses

[dark token]

Like in ur kingsbane it's garrote garrote envenom garrote garrote ct

[gusty mirage]

oh

for adds

tru tru

[bleak eagle]

thx

[gusty mirage]

like the 3rd boss in throne

[dark token]

That's fine for a kingsbane windoe

And still bleeds adds

[sullen mural]

I mean kingsbane is 1 minute cd

[dark token]

Idk why you would ever desync

[sullen mural]

might aswell send it

[dark token]

^^

[sullen mural]

People hold their cds too often in m+ dungeons

[dark token]

Can't think of a situation I want to use dance

[gusty mirage]

[eternal heath]

Guess that is fair

[dark token]

But save kingsbane

[storm forum]

in AoE I sometimes gar/rup spread earlier, and then KB later so I can env chain in it. So they end up desync'd by 5 seconds and if thats going to screw me up later, it probably isnt worth it for me idk

[eternal heath]

Guess it just seemed like 2s of KB was a huge waste

[gusty mirage]

only shitty part is like big opening pack lusts

[eternal heath]

But I guess so is 0s

[gusty mirage]

where your KB gets griefed by everyone doing a billion damage + sudden demise

[dark token]

Yeah when you have no snd

[gusty mirage]

yep

[dark token]

In high keys I will ask for target dummy

[gusty mirage]

but after first pull you're like bing chilling

[eternal heath]

First trash in Fall feels kinda bad if your tank chain pulls until boss

[sullen mural]

i hate my tanks chain pulling when mobs have like 5% hp and i have no vanish and no shadowdance

[eternal heath]

Yep

[sullen mural]

like yeah thanks i didnt want restealth anyways

[storm forum]

our 14% damage 😠

[eternal heath]

That is a situation where I am not sure how worth it is doing bleeds one by one

[dark token]

I also have habit of only sending my dance + KB on first pull

Then deathmark 2nd pull

To offset my CD from other DPS

[hexed willow]

Not awful for rupture but garrote and CT uptime need some work

[dark token]

Cause usually first pack dies before full deathmark kb

So it's just about shadow dance/sudden demise

[eternal heath]

Yeah I end up waiting way too long for CT usage I feel like

[sullen mural]

I mean kinda have to to not have 0 energy

[dark token]

In aoe u should snapshot crimson tempest in ur dance

Instead of rupture

[gusty mirage]

yeah I've been doing that too

[dark token]

It's giga

[keen spruce]

@balmy condor u just running spatter for council?

or did you do the IC stuff

[gusty mirage]

can your tank keep two of them close enough

[hexed willow]

Oooo thats smart, I’ll try this

[keen spruce]

[gusty mirage]

figure that out, then there you go

[sullen mural]

I see exile playing Bonespike is it simming higher now or

[random quarry]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1umFFBt2XiWpSk6bXUfiRg

[gusty mirage]

you should play caustic tho

[random quarry]

this seems really low

[gusty mirage]

it's a small ST loss for free cleave

[eternal heath]

I may record a shitter run later and post it in here if anyone wants to take a look

[dark token]

I spread 5 ruptures before dance, and my dance is garrote garrote envenom garrote garrote CT

[keen spruce]

imma just play caustic i doubt i'm gonna get any decent 3 target

unless IC is worth on 2t

[arctic current]

I find myself holding way to much knowing kb will just get wasted... think I need to desync more tbh

[dark token]

It is

Do a 2t sim

Ic + caustic is best

[keen spruce]

dropping AP for it?

[dark token]

Third target is just bonus

[sullen mural]

Yeah playing council without ic

[gusty mirage]

it is, but like I said it depends on whether your tanks can handle moving the bear without killing the raid

[keen spruce]

or dashing?

[sullen mural]

felt like i was torturing myself

[keen spruce]

i'm sure they can figure it out.

did you drop dashing for IC?

[dark token]

I will use IC by default and if tanks suck don't bother

Yes drop dashing

I feel you can always 2t during ur cds rho

[dark token]

On opener even 3t

[keen spruce]

and no scent?

[dark token]

You can put the IC point into scent instead

If u think ur tanks will be permanently spread

It's only a small 2t loss

And if they are spread it's a gain

[keen spruce]

we'll see how the pull goes

it's only heroic i'm sure we can keep stuff staqcked

[sullen mural]

I was envious of my boomkin on that fight

afk in the middle with starfall

topping meters

[dark token]

IC should be 40 yard range

Imo

[sullen mural]

XD

[dark token]

Really awkward when it doesn't hit

It should at least be 20 yards

[sullen mural]

Yeah slightly more range would be nice

[worn igloo]

nothing like hitting garotte and not having it spread because a mob is 3 pixels out of the like 2yd range it appears to have

[dark token]

Or at least 18 yard

[sullen mural]

Like you can see stuff next to you and its not hitting like ?XD

[worn igloo]

flying dagger range minimum tbh

[dark token]

It should be able to hit an equidistant 2nd target behind ur actual Target

At max auto range

[soft shale]

that works so well sometimes also helps to make the key faster

[dark token]

So 16y

[soft shale]

also today i pulled 2 rogues in re zan thx blizz

through walls

[bleak ivy]

im doing M+ for no reason at this pont tbh

shit aint dropping anything

[soft shale]

i havent even timed a rise yet

last boss always being funneh

[sullen mural]

Took me 20 dungeons for 2 daggers i feel u

[bronze marsh]

I haven’t even set foot in doti yet, I need to mentally prepare

[royal lantern]

im at 19 with 0

[bronze marsh]

Still trying to farm branch

[midnight narwhal]

hello, i'm new on assass in aoe u better spamm crimson or one crimson for dot then spam envenom ?

[bronze marsh]

My guild is memeing on me about it lol

[bleak ivy]

breh ive been spamming dawns and eveblooms and havent even seen a dagger drop?

[soft sigil]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
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Pooling Practice Tool

[worn igloo]

gala is ez

[dark token]

Only took me 60 dungeons to loot every item I need from m+

Not bad

[sullen mural]

bloom only took 12 for me

[fallen forge]

best meme talents for sudden demise in low keys?

[bleak ivy]

how do I check how many times ive ran a dungeon

[pure moth]

I got lucky with a dagger, got a 483 hero track one. Aint nick of time but its a weapon atleast

[dark token]

The regular talents

U just focus on bleed spread over KB

[fallen forge]

does arterial precision work with sudden demise

[dark token]

Yes

[fallen forge]

ight bet

tyty

[dark token]

So snapshot ur crimson tempest in dance

Not rupture

[fallen forge]

bet

[bleak ivy]

do I need to do every dungeon on a 20+ to hit 2000 rio with 1 week?

[hexed willow]

Is this with KB running or just a dance?

[sullen mural]

Not quite no

[vagrant tapir]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842817103354658817/1154475731108249700/image.png

[bleak ivy]

How much then

im gonna hit 2k by this week get the token

[sullen mural]

like 18? i think

[fallow acorn]

I think an 18 is close to 250 points?

[bleak ivy]

bet

[fallow acorn]

8 x 250

[bleak ivy]

oh rly

[soft shale]

i ended up killing hc fyrakk before getting to 2k

[bleak ivy]

I thought id would be lower

[sullen mural]

maybe one or two twenties in there

[soft shale]

nah to get 2k you need 20 and 19 a mix of both

depends of how you do those of course

[bleak ivy]

aint no way 18s be giving 250

[brazen oasis]

6x 20 2x 19

is 2k

[sullen mural]

U only have to time 2 20's pretty much

[bleak ivy]

when does Hybrid work betteer than arterial in m+?

[fervent jasper]

Do we no longer multi garrote in AoE?

[royal lantern]

ofc we do?

[sullen mural]

Huh wdym

[fallow acorn]

he'sx got a mix going on

[sullen mural]

Garrot is like

most dmg in m+

[drowsy basin]

is hybrid or shock better for m+

[wispy hazel]

what key level should you swap off shocj

shock

[royal lantern]

mate, read pls

[sullen mural]

Highest timed keys with assa rogues in them still play demise shock

[royal lantern]

it flows better imo

[royal lantern]

and like

[sullen mural]

Yeah same

[royal lantern]

the differences are so extremely minor

it doesnt really matter

[sullen mural]

u probably go hybrid for tyran maybe

[royal lantern]

atleast not rn

[bleak ivy]

idk I been running demise shock the whole time

[royal lantern]

tyran weeks will be a whole load of fun anyway

[sullen mural]

Yeah fun

[royal lantern]

3rd boss everbloom tyran

fire tranistion allready almost kills me rn

without cloak

[gusty mirage]

I'd rather do 3rd boss everbloom for all 4 bosses in a dungeon than any boss in rise

[storm forum]

everbloom bosses are legit raid bosses

[royal lantern]

what rise?

[storm forum]

like you need a raidleader assigning movement and raid CDs

[royal lantern]

there is not such a dungeon

[gusty mirage]

it's the dungeon you end up in when you join a fall

[sullen mural]

I mean

[royal lantern]

REAL

[sullen mural]

Morchie is free

[royal lantern]

i just leave at this point

[sullen mural]

She litterally does nothing

[shut owl]

morchi is big sad on KB timings

[gusty mirage]

the real boss for morchi wing is the trash

[sullen mural]

XD

TRU

All my pugs already died to 2nd boss in lower

cant wait for tyran

[gusty mirage]

if I don't get a 2nd nick of time in vault

it's one nick of time until week 3

[storm forum]

👍

[sullen mural]

I mean u need 2 out of 18+ vaults

highest upgrade path

[gusty mirage]

we do 8 +18 WMs next week

I already know how shit those bosses are on high tyran

I'm numb to the pain

[sullen mural]

Where is my shadowmoon burial

I miss her

[gusty mirage]

TRUE

or underroots

[sullen mural]

I mean shadowmoon was that free i just went there with my freshly capped char

and my team still timed the 20 easily

I miss her to gear all my alts

I cba sitting through declines for 2 hours to join a +5 key on an alt

[gusty mirage]

I'll gear my pally tomorrow

and tank for the boys

then get 1 shot by a boss on fort week

and quit for the rest of the season

[sullen mural]

i wanna play my lock but bro is stuck on 424

Surely i get into +2s

[sharp swallow]

another question, is fyrakk trinket good for us?

the rare one?

[sullen mural]

Not really

Theres like 6 better onuse's

[brazen fern]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

The following is a general recommendation, but you will always get more accurate results through simming your gear through Top Gear.
Crit >= Mastery > Haste > Versatility
Note: In high mythic+ keys, you may want more Versatility to survive. While you may see this on high end players gear, this is generally worse DPS. For pure DPS, Versatility is mostly avoided.

[sullen mural]

Still dont really like everbloom trinket

these balls are like invisible ongod

[balmy condor]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[fervent jasper]

Are Kingsbane, Deathmark, and Shiv used in AoE?

[stiff kernel]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
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Pooling Practice Tool

[distant fox]

Yep

Absolutely

[sullen mural]

always put KB on a target that will survive a bit in m+

1 min cd no reason to hold

[fervent jasper]

How do you use shiv and deathmark in AoE?

[fallen forge]

u press it