assassination

[sage cargo]

I have the 2k rating token + catalyst. Seriously unsure if I should just do it or not

[slate crown]

No hate to fuu, he does great work and his weakauras are good. Just saying we have a bunch here

[strange python]

cause they are sexy lol

[slate crown]

No need to have someone do extra work to make sin auras when we have the entire list you linked.

[strange python]

ya think?

[slate crown]

Well yes, this is true

They are very sleek

[strange python]

Let's argue about it though

wait

do you still play Aterial shock in Raid Singletarget ?``

[slate crown]

That gets more into gearing strategy, personally I would save catalyst for unlocking 4 pc myself

[ornate zodiac]

wait till vault.

[sage cargo]

I'm so unsure of what to do xd my 4p from s2 is all 437 and one 450 gear. It's so sadge

Like I'm 450 equipped but have 460 in my bags cause of all catalystable slots

no rings or trinkets -.-

[nova wolf]

What does the wowhead guide say?

[keen spruce]

WE'RE FREE

burn the forest

[slate crown]

FIRE WILL BURN AWAY THE CONTAGION

SURELY THE COLD WILL MAKE THEM WITHER

[bleak ivy]

man wtf kinda group did I get into

2 other guys below tank

[dusk onyx]

The tank calls it „müll“

[bleak ivy]

grats

[bleak ivy]

Idk what that means xd

[dusk onyx]

Trash

[glacial shuttle]

Yooo I got one too 😄 Grats

[bleak ivy]

Average outlaw player

[slate crown]

Yeah I’m similar have a bunch of ilvl upgrades in tier slots from M+ but no tier gear, though all my stuff is 447. The old tier is weak but not that weak. You should only break your old tier if you can make 2p2p

[storm forum]

@keen spruce I'm here what's up?

[pure moth]

Same!

[lofty junco]

finaly got the Conquestpoints for the neck^^

vers mastery/haste/crit?

[slate crown]

Yes

[lofty junco]

i mean all 3 necks ahve vers, but what second stat

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simyoself-gif-20048910

Actually that’s a bad one don’t use stat weights

[lofty junco]

hey thats a worser one then mine^^

[slate crown]

But sim yourself

[lofty junco]

https://imgur.com/a/7KsyCKl

[stable onyx]

Hi guys does a mastery on use trinket affect already applied poisons and bleeds?

[slate crown]

And double the framerate

[storm forum]

I'm doing a stat weight sim now

[storm forum]

Yes

[stable onyx]

@storm forum thanks 🙂

[velvet robin]

ooc are the toxic thorn footwraps only worth crafting if you have an armour patch to go with it or would they combo well with blue silken linen too?
Looking to do mainly M+

[storm forum]

They are good on their own

[bleak ivy]

best use of spark ?

[storm forum]

The toxic patch only doubles the effect, there's no extra scaling

[bleak ivy]

should you get the patch or a weapon?

after boots

[storm forum]

I think patch

Cause you keep the patch forever

And you just hope the weapon comes home in vault

[warped lily]

Guys help me with my rotation, im kinda new to assa, Ill do my opener all good, kingsbane finishes , then everything is 1 min cd, what I should do there?

[strange python]

if ur not waiting to pick up branch orbs should u just not use branch?

[warped lily]

right now im just spamming mutilate and then evenenom until i have kingsbane shadowdance a again

[storm forum]

I think the Ashes trinket from Smolderon is an okay alternative, just make sure to sim yourself cause going from a mast trinket to a haste trinket will change things for you

[vital arrow]

Does Death Mark copy KB?

[strange python]

thank you

[haughty flicker]

SURELY I WIN RIGHT

[storm forum]

Yeah you got this

[haughty flicker]

ok ye i won

[storm forum]

Wowee

[haughty flicker]

ez smolderon pug

[storm forum]

I won it too

[warped lily]

Guys help me with my rotation, im kinda new to assa, Ill do my opener all good, kingsbane finishes , then everything is 1 min cd, what I should do there? right now im just spamming mutilate and then evenenom until i have kingsbane shadowdance a again

[haughty flicker]

[umbral summit]

for M+ as Assa - are we decoupling Shadow Dance and Vanish from Kingsbane in order to get more frequent access to IC between trash packs? I'm finding it hard to plan CDs with dungeons I'm not used to at varying cadence depending on the group

[cunning basin]

Must be fuckin nice

My guild gave the signet brand to someone else bc it's only a 2.7% upgrade for me, I'm like dead last on the list to get it lmao

[sweet dawn]

Basically this? Just maintain your garrote/rupture and mutilate/ambush envenom

[cunning basin]

Ehhhhh I haven't really found it to matter too much whether you desync or not. Kinda just a play it by ear kinda thing?

[storm forum]

There's not a lot to do. Just maintain DoTs, fill with mut/amb/env, stay above 50% energy for linguini value.

[cunning basin]

Like look ahead at what packs you're gonna be killing, what ones you're interested in having aoe silence for, what ones you want to kb, etc

[nova flax]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[warped lily]

If i have shadow dance and kings bane up, but detahmark is on cd, should I wait for deathmark or just go for it?

[sweet dawn]

You get a SD+KB every minute and you use them on CD

[cunning basin]

You use your CDs on cooldown

[sweet dawn]

so at 2 minutes you will have shadow dance, kingsbane, and deathmark

[cunning basin]

^

[storm forum]

I've been syncing KB and Dance, but desyncing vanish

[warped lily]

got it

and vanish should always be used in the 3 seconds remainng from kingsbane windows

[sweet dawn]

Vanish kinda gets desynced, you use it in the last 3 seconds of KB for the MA crit

But it lines back up again at the 2min DM

[cunning basin]

Yeah it's also a 2min cd so it's gonna line up with your deathmark kb

[warped lily]

got it

[strange python]

i literally did all 4 raid difficulties this week and didn’t get one piece of gear

i’m very sad

[storm forum]

That's very lucky in the wrong way, sorry bud

[strange python]

LOL

[storm forum]

That's like the guy who bets on black and red comes up 38 times in a row

[cunning basin]

First time?

[misty thicket]

whats the set that we dont equip?

[strange python]

hopefully last time

[cunning basin]

Surely it will be black this time

[storm forum]

It's green

[cunning basin]

If I go to play roulette

And I bet on black

And it comes up green

I'm calling in an airstrike on my location

[royal lantern]

got legit every single item from fall and everbloom now

except trinket and dagger

[storm forum]

Legs I think

[cunning basin]

Same except I literally have only gotten witherbark branch lmao

[storm forum]

But this early on don't worry about it

[cunning basin]

My m+ luck is flames

4 items in 31 dungeons

M+? Nah we doin m-

[jaunty dew]

!wisp

[storm forum]

Dude I've seen the tank trinket drop 3 times now, where the fuck are my BiS items?

[cunning basin]

The fucking outlaw rogues in my guild have better dagger luck than me

[storm forum]

At least my tanks will never die ig

[sage cargo]

Yo, this might be a question, but what do I prioritize in AoE rotation?
How do I play around sanguini blade

[crude pasture]

hero track nick of time aquired boys

[sage cargo]

Like, how many ruptures do I wanna maintain vs energy etc+

[cunning basin]

Prio keeping up spatter, and don't play around sb

[sage cargo]

and on ST, how do you guys maintain energy? I feel like I'm running out of energy all the time

[storm forum]

5 ruptures minimum to maintain max stacks for blood

[cunning basin]

You don't. You envenom chain until you're out then you wait for 80% and go again

[storm forum]

And once those are up and CT, mut a priority target for spatter and spatter all over them

[cunning basin]

Hot

[sage cargo]

So you actually jsut stand around and do nothing until 80% energy again?

After running out that is

[storm forum]

If you walk into a pull and get off 6-12 bleeds you just get flooded with energy and don't need to worry about linguini sanguini

[cunning basin]

Yeah. So there's a rhythm to pooling, where you envenom, build, wait for last ~1sec of envenom, envenom again

Rinse and repeat until you can no longer do that

Then you wait for 80% and go again

So yes the spec does have a significant amount of literally just autoing, and that's a feature, not a bug

[sage cargo]

That's fine!

[agile gull]

Guys is there any situation to spam CT ? its only keeping it rolling isnt it?

[sage cargo]

seems more managable to do that. Then I can tihnk more and zugzug less xd

[cunning basin]

Very easy on the wrists, much better than outlaw if you get carpal tunnel

[cunning basin]

You never spam it anymore, just maintain it

It has no upfront damage, it is just a bleed

[royal lantern]

you dont spam, has no initial dmg

its only dot now

[cunning basin]

Yup, that's what assassination has historically been about is thinking more and planning ahead

[sage cargo]

Okay. So my next question is

if I get fucked in my opener by tank not letting me stealth

what do I do with my energy?

[storm forum]

Shadowmeld

[royal lantern]

cringe elf lmao

[quasi ledge]

Use Vanish or Dance

[cunning basin]

Do your opener still

[royal lantern]

you multi dot

[kindred ingot]

Should i change dwarf to elf？

[cunning basin]

Dance is part of it anyways so

Shrug

[royal lantern]

if you wanna waste money for nothing, sure lol

[dreamy elk]

How is sim M+ feeling compared to outlaw?

[royal lantern]

[cunning basin]

You should play what looks best to you

[sage cargo]

Yeah, but do I just send dance without rupture on all targets?

[royal lantern]

racial reroll

jesus christ

you guys need help

[sage cargo]

like when do I stop rupturing is what i mean

[royal lantern]

[storm forum]

Play whatever race you like the most

I like elves the most

[rapid mirage]

Vulpera or nothing

[cunning basin]

I'm gonna be real, I've said it a few times but in m+ you can kinda just do random shit and you'll blast

[kindred ingot]

In M+ some tank will prefer pull like train

[storm forum]

Vulpera is okay but I'm not that big of a furry

[cunning basin]

Like if you get the basic concept of multidotting you're probably gonna be fine

There's a lot of thinking on your feet and there's never going to be an "always optimal" play

[kindred ingot]

He won't give you chance to go in stealth

[cunning basin]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Long In-depth explanation of why restealths aren't as important as you might think:
https://youtu.be/DoZDPFk_Zog
The TLDW (I understand, it's LONG):

• Garrote does roughly 14% of your damage overall in a key. This means from 100% improved garrote uptime to 0% improved garrote uptime, you would be losing 4.6% of your overall damage
• This is compounded by the fact that you simply do not lose that many restealths
• You still have vanish and in 10.2, shadow dance, which gives you MANY options to get your stealth effects
• This has been supported by logs and by simulations, for many years

[storm forum]

Leave the group and report

[keen spruce]

what's the default rune that simc uses?

[cunning basin]

Whispyr cooked with that one not gonna lie

[storm forum]

I think it's hissing (mastery)

[cunning basin]

Is it?

I thought mine was buzzing but I'm probably high, I've been sending howling since last tier when the sim wanted me using howling

Should probs be check

Re*

[crude pasture]

i simmed all 3 runes and theyre so close

[dark token]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892045651033092096/1175458942478975077/image.png?ex=656b4e72&is=6558d972&hm=b518906113576a9a448ac3904bf8d4282a7e9f8c751912d636a00fc78f4b60bc&

[nova wraith]

What am I missing, it seems that my My'das sims much lower than it displays on Bloodmallet?

[dark token]

Now I just need tier...

[nova wraith]

like it sims at 3% of damage, rather than 9...?

[keen spruce]

i'm just wondering what the sim default is

[royal lantern]

proper chainpulls are good for assa

stop thinking

[keen spruce]

so i know what is being simmed

[royal lantern]

"assassination = stealth"

[dark token]

Yeah but how many tanks do this

[cunning basin]

Bloodmallet numbers are kinda made up

[dark token]

How they chainpull is wait till l1 mob is almost dying

Tag next pack

XD

[nova wraith]

w-what

I thought they were the % of damage the trinket has in a top-gear situation?

[royal lantern]

cool

in shit keys stuff doesnt matter

[cunning basin]

The list is a good like quick reference for what will likely get you the most value, but the actual numbers and %s are more or less made up

[keen spruce]

i mean they're not made up, they's just not given full context

[cunning basin]

So don't take the % you see on there as the end-all be-all

[storm forum]

Blootmallet is a decent estimation, but you should sim yourself. Their biggest flaw rn is that they don't take trinket combinations into consideration.

[kindred ingot]

So how can i get the energy without stealth

[storm forum]

Just vanish and put some dots up

[nova wraith]

Yeah I tried to sim the trinkets I had and it kinda broke, started using items kinda wrongly

but ig that is fair

[kindred ingot]

Vanish is 2 min cd

[storm forum]

If vanish is down prio putting up DoTs in dance and let env fall off for a bit

[keen spruce]

lanille ignoring me in liquid chat

[cunning basin]

Do you have double on use?

[keen spruce]

[nova wraith]

that was what I tried to sim

which explains it pretty easily

[cunning basin]

Get his ass

[storm forum]

If that's also down just gar on CD, get CT out and at least 5 rups

[cunning basin]

Double on use is turbo cringe for any cd based spec

[nova wraith]

I wanted to see if My'das at 470 would outdo a 441 essence as a standalong to my 476 Branch 😔

My'das is just flat damage right

so I thought it'd be like last tier beacon/dbd

[cunning basin]

Yeah my'das is like solidly okay

[storm forum]

I was asleep, you pinged me at 5 am wtf

[cunning basin]

Your first mistake was sleeping

[storm forum]

True

[oak tangle]

wait, you trying to double on use? and confused why it doesn't sim the same as bloodmallet?

[cunning basin]

To be fair the second on use is my'das so it's like

[nova wraith]

I just expected it to just use it on CD after branch each time

but it ended up changing the time it was casting branch

[cunning basin]

That's not great lmao

[keen spruce]

oh yeah double on use bad.

[sharp elk]

@slate crown yo, weak aura for kingsbane timings is great, could you add text to it like "use thistle tea" or let me know how i would do that for each timing? (:

[proper forum]

When using double on use sim always uses 13 before 14 this is why sometimes you’ll see a consistent (minor) difference when swapping trinkets on sim

[nova wraith]

but it is it did the flip of this actually

🥴

[lethal widget]

Shmeepy let me borrow your group for a 22 fall lmao

[storm forum]

Sims are fucked ig rip

[nova wraith]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9vgAo5pHbmXGfUqfRZUxqC

For those of you specifically curious

[keen spruce]

the way bloodmallet ranks those trinkets. is that it takes a sample character. unequips both trinkets, then equips one and measures the gain

[nova wraith]

I'll prolly just stick to branch/essence

but it is whatever

[keen spruce]

so it doesn't account for double on use timings

or stuff like that

[nova wraith]

just got a 470 my'das and was like "surely it is better than a 441 essence :x"

[cunning basin]

Yeah I mean like I said my'das is like solidly okay, if you have nothing else rock it but in general you just want the best passive you can get to complement branch

[proper forum]

What’s it like having s3 trinkets

😭

[kindred ingot]

So anyone can tell me, what should i do when tank didn't give you a chance to get stealth

[lethal widget]

Cry

Flame him

[cunning basin]

It probably technically is better for st

[sharp elk]

have a mental breakdown

[sick abyss]

is ther a tutorial on how to use branch for us? i saw a vid of someone as sub but not sure if that helps

[keen spruce]

just play and understand that it doesn't matter

or get yourself out of stealth

[nova wraith]

I'd assume so, because it just makes little sense for it to not be the case

[keen spruce]

don't hit new mobs that get pulled in

[kindred ingot]

I'm trying

[cunning basin]

Use caustic spatter to still out damage everyone

[nova wraith]

My aim is Hourglass for now

& pray I am the melee dps that gets the brand

:' )

[cunning basin]

I have an hourglass and a crab and like

Idk

[oak tangle]

trigger - aura > target > debuff > kingsbane
conditions - remaining duration #

make it a text aura

[cunning basin]

Hourglass sucks

[nova wraith]

I just don't wanna farm throne 🥴

[cunning basin]

Did fuck all for me when I tried it so I threw my stupid crab back on cuz it has like 35% uptime or some ridiculous shit

[keen spruce]

sandglass the best passive

you can get from dungeons

[dark token]

Yes

I think brand and pips are better?

From raid

[keen spruce]

ye

[cunning basin]

My crab has avoidance tho so gg

[storm forum]

Vanish/meld and do opener, or dance and do opener (letting env fall off is ok), or gar on CD, put out CT and at least 5 rups like back in the old days.

[cunning basin]

Avoidance > stupid hourglass thing L bozo

[cerulean nest]

echo playing sub on smolderon huh

[nova wraith]

Bloodmallet top 7 for those of you curious :D

[cunning basin]

So was liquid

[nova wraith]

They were playing sub the whole time, no?

[sharp elk]

is the number in seconds or miliseconds?

[grim tangle]

also the crab is much cuter

[sick abyss]

has anyone done a vid or a wekaaura for banch yet?

[oak tangle]

seconds

[nova wraith]

I may be wrong but I swear I recall someone sending me a SS about seeing someone play Sub

[storm forum]

I think sub CDs line up better with the damage amps on smolderon

[cunning basin]

True and fuckin based

Smoldy damage amps are apparently like 1.40 apart

So sub better timing wise

[cerulean nest]

ah

[sharp elk]

where do i type the text for it?

[cunning basin]

That's the kinda tiny optimizations that likely won't matter outside of rwf but it's something to think about

[oak tangle]

display tab

[keen spruce]

crab also loses some value on sims

when you have a branch

[cunning basin]

I'm gonna tell my crab that you're being mean to him and he's gonna pinch you

[storm forum]

Wait I thought crab was a passive trinket

[sharp elk]

thanks so much dawg

[storm forum]

Why does it lose value?

[keen spruce]

yeah but they both giga mastery

[storm forum]

Oh yeah thats fair

[keen spruce]

robot starts to dislike mastery at some point

[storm forum]

Just take off mastery gear

[keen spruce]

wants me to go get a vers neck

[storm forum]

Until the crab likes you again

[keen spruce]

[cunning basin]

5head

[keen spruce]

fk yo crab

[oak tangle]

just use pawn addon, it wont trigger anyone

[sharp elk]

@oak tangle last thing, it is displaying the text on the bar where it shows time, how do i change where the text itself appears?

[storm forum]

Just sim stat weights every twenty minutes

[cunning basin]

What you guys aren't doing live sims as you hot swap gear?

[oak tangle]

are you modifying one that already exists, or making a new aura

[keen spruce]

Checkin stat weights is like peakin in your neighbor's window

u know it's wrong but sometimes u just can't help it

[storm forum]

I'm sorry wtf

[cunning basin]

LMAO

That is a banger

I'm ssing that

[sharp elk]

i was trying to put this in the same weak aura as the kingsbane timing bar one

but i could do it separately

[oak tangle]

i'll have to look at the aura, i made my own so can't exactly tell you how to modify the one they made

[sharp elk]

i just do the same thing you said and then do the text right?

[cunning basin]

Yoink

[sharp elk]

ok cool thanks

[keen spruce]

[storm forum]

Siming my stat weights isn't going to get me arrested

Peeking into my neighbors might

[oak tangle]

yeah i was just assuming you'd make a text aura

[cunning basin]

I had some bangers at like 3 am this morning

[sharp elk]

ok i think i can just do that, gets the same effect

[cunning basin]

Unless you tell whispyr

[storm forum]

@balmy condor I sim my stat weights sometimes

Do it

Arrest me

[cunning basin]

RATTLE EM BOYS

[drowsy basin]

should i craft a dagger?

[oak tangle]

take it a step further, sim someone elses stat weights and force them upon them

[storm forum]

Focus on crafting embellishments first because they won't get replaced. If you're focusing on m+, maybe craft a weapon with BSL on it, but you'll probably need to craft another piece with BSL later in the season when you get nick of times.

[oak tangle]

instead of being one of those cringe guys who texts the female friends good morning every morning, text your rogue friend their stat weights

[keen spruce]

[storm forum]

We are truly menaces to society

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/peek-creep-spy-window-sneak-gif-10746811

[storm forum]

I'll sim when I get on my pc

[abstract jacinth]

dude you were quick on that lol

[storm forum]

I'd say you have a problem Shmeeps, but you talk here regularly so we already knew that

[keen spruce]

so ig

i just need another daggie

and some bling

[oak tangle]

99 problems but stat weights aint one

[cunning basin]

Trying to collect some banger RH memes

To use as generic replies

Got one for stat weights and one for dust so far

[proud torrent]

How does sin feel in m+

[cunning basin]

Amazing

[drowsy basin]

Ty. We are doing thorn boots and wrists?

[cunning basin]

Just need to get a meme going for restealths

[proud torrent]

Lmao

Just getting into it

[storm forum]

Thorn boots, and either wrist or waist patch for ST yeah (I don't remember where, I have it on my belt, but I saw some people have wrists)

[cunning basin]

Also I made the rattle em boys on my phone so gg

Took me way longer to figure out than it should have but my 2 brain cells are fried from raiding

[oak tangle]

i'm keen to finally raid tomorrow

[storm forum]

I blasted 9s for liquid boys for like an hour or two last night. That was relaxing.

[keen spruce]

i raid in 4 hours

[cunning basin]

Raids actually a banger

[keen spruce]

I did like 12 everblooms back to back by myself

[cunning basin]

You have to beat my council parse

[keen spruce]

it was not relaxing

[oak tangle]

unlikely

[storm forum]

I should be doing that

[oak tangle]

maybe likely

[cunning basin]

LMAO

Honestly more proud of the 0 on council than I am of any other parses

[random plume]

council parse more impressive than the orange parses

[oak tangle]

i am wee 447 tho

[storm forum]

I did a couple hours of galakrond's fall and stressed myself out watching everyone else get trinkets and weapons.

[cunning basin]

Means I didn't have to do that shit boss

Anyone can orange parse, it takes true skill to 0 parse

[storm forum]

True

[cunning basin]

If you think about it a 0 parse is just just a 100 parse but in the wrong direction

[storm forum]

It's like betting it all on black and having red come up 38 times

[oak tangle]

i died on some random boss in BFA, my friend screen shotted my parse, and for several years his profile pic in discord was me with a 2% parse infront of a crying dog face

[cunning basin]

LMAOOOOO

[storm forum]

LMAO

[cunning basin]

That is some next level hater shit holy

Who is that guy I wanna be like him

[shy axle]

https://wago.io/8WWlvpYa9 the last line is the 3 sec vanish one, the one before that the tea one, but what are the two lines on the right showing?

[sharp elk]

so i can get it to show up but it isnt showing up for the time i wanted

it shows pu for entire kingsbane duration

[storm forum]

In the priest discord they have peoples' parse %s are emotes

[shy axle]

pu?

[storm forum]

It's some real toxic shit

[oak tangle]

you need to set the trigger and or conditions to only show at that time

[cunning basin]

That's like turbo hater behavior

I wish I was that big of a hater

[storm forum]

Ikr

[kindred ingot]

in m+ and raid how should ass handle the add mobs

[sharp elk]

ok i got it

thanks a lot

[storm forum]

In raid, spatter all over them

[oak tangle]

change the text property change to text 1 and check the visibility box.

change the text in display options to be what you want and uncheck the visibility checkbox

[cunning basin]

Talent into caustic spatter and proceed with ST rotation

[sharp elk]

hadnt done this

[storm forum]

In m+, idk, just do ur normal stuff

[oak tangle]

should work too

[sharp elk]

my very first custom weak aura thanks for the help

[royal lantern]

in raid you go the 100% normal raid build and just swap internal bleeding with spatter

[oak tangle]

nice 🙂

[royal lantern]

and you now have cleave

[kindred ingot]

just like im wm the goliath

in 20 i cant kill the mobs in a short time

[cunning basin]

Love that we get to pad without it actually being padding

Love that for us

[storm forum]

I have no idea what any of this means

[cunning basin]

I'm glad you said it

[storm forum]

Thanks, I get that a lot

[cunning basin]

I was thinking it but wasn't sure if I should say it but you led the way

You walked so I could run

Or smth idk I didn't read the book

[oak tangle]

you should dot them, and spatter off them, and do their mechanics, and not die, and kill them

[storm forum]

And have a snack break

[oak tangle]

copy paste for how to do every fight

[cunning basin]

That's what I do when my envenom chain breaks

Get up and grab some ice cream as a reward for doing my opener and properly chaining envenoms

Get back just in time for 80% to start it up again

[storm forum]

I was doing that too, but I ran out of chipwiches

So now I just play poorly in-between

[cunning basin]

Fuckin rip

I'm almost out of ice cream too so I'm on that track

When fyrakk comes around Monday that's gonna be my life

Scripted cd sequences with suboptimal gameplay in between

[oak tangle]

i'm a snack fiend on a diet. if i want a maxibon, i have to forgo some shit

[sharp elk]

yo memz how would i make the text go away when i have pressed the button i want

[oak tangle]

i'll send you something in a dm in like a few mins, but what button do you mean for now

[sharp elk]

thistle tea

[dapper holly]

When do we drop our 2/4 set for ilvl?

[strange python]

when the sim says to

[cunning basin]

As soon as you get new 2/4 set

[dapper holly]

kk

[void mesa]

I looked away for 30 mins and people are sharing stats weight

What has this place turned into

[shy axle]

the dm/kb/Sd combo is always Env - Dm - Shiv - KB/SD - Gar - spam env, keep shiv up ?and i keep vanish always for those last seconds every second kb?

just to make sure i get it

[cunning basin]

Yes

And it's the same sequence for every cd window

Just + or - the 2 minutes

[oak tangle]

sent a dm

[earnest remnant]

[gusty mirage]

[drifting cedar]

Guys when are we using branch?

[cunning basin]

Oh God

[cunning basin]

On deathmark

[oak tangle]

with dm

[royal lantern]

im suffering with you

[drifting cedar]

Thanks guys

[royal lantern]

0 of the items

[gusty mirage]

I keep looting boots from keys

[rapid mirage]

LOL same

[royal lantern]

chest armor for me lmao

like

[gusty mirage]

I have 9 pairs of boots now

[cunning basin]

Y'all are getting items??

[earnest remnant]

i basically have 3 items left i can get

[royal lantern]

fall=chest armor

everbloom=chest armor

[earnest remnant]

neck legs and a ring

[rapid mirage]

Boots and trinkets actually

[royal lantern]

only chest armor

all the time

[gusty mirage]

I’ve given out 5 sandglasses so far

[rapid mirage]

Dude..

[royal lantern]

atleast sandglass is a decent trinket

[rapid mirage]

I think ive gotten about 5 too, gave it out 4 times to pppl farming it tho

[kindred ingot]

this add

idk how to handle this

[gusty mirage]

I’m about to craft a dagger next week out of desperation. Idk how long I can keep running a 441 Nick of time in my off hand before losing it emotionally

[earnest remnant]

told ya

you just need to stream it to me

and its free af

[rapid mirage]

I got one my first time in a 20, so there goes my luck

[royal lantern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6mGixhCcYY

here

have a bouncing seal too feel better

[gusty mirage]

I’m not streaming me pugging 17s

[keen spruce]

I stil have 0p tier

[gusty mirage]

[earnest remnant]

all my assa gear has left

[rapid mirage]

Its a harsh club, but it's OUR club.

[smoky swan]

does Timestrike stack up or why we play 2x Nick of Time ?

[gusty mirage]

The last screenshot I sent you is the same gear I have after running 8 more keys

[earnest remnant]

mine

[strange python]

do you craft that 483 wep or where you get that

[royal lantern]

mate

its stealthi

ofc he dropped it lol

[spice surge]

Socket belt, helmet and ring

[strange python]

yeah i'm saying where is it from lol

[spice surge]

Bro is stacked

[earnest remnant]

want me to make it worse

[keen spruce]

maybe i get 4p in raid today and i also in 200k club

[royal lantern]

worst players get the best loot, like always

[gusty mirage]

I do have the ability to ban you

[earnest remnant]

ive only done 4 Dawn of galakrond

[gusty mirage]

Remember that

Okay

[orchid pewter]

[gusty mirage]

Bye stealthi, it was nice knowing you

[earnest remnant]

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-get-to-work-gif-21630516

[earnest remnant]

upgraded from a +20 drop

[gusty mirage]

Also if blizzard could fix their helm enchant quest that’d be swell

[undone flame]

is this for all of my poisons or the last one i apply? dose it matter what order i apply my poisons with that talent?

[shy axle]

env pandemics at 2 seconds?

[royal lantern]

i have 5 echoes, idk how many we are supposed to have?

[spice surge]

All poisons, it doesnt matter

[earnest remnant]

[gusty mirage]

We’re supposed to have 10, I have 1 after 20 boss kills lol

[earnest remnant]

twinsies

[undone flame]

thanks

[gusty mirage]

Hope y’all are clearing all of heroic next week and the quest is fixed

Otherwise we’re shit out of luck

[earnest remnant]

we are

gonna clear it all

[gusty mirage]

Pray for them to fix the quest before reset

[royal lantern]

sure

and i want a dragon

[gusty mirage]

Because they’re not doing any retroactive fix. They have a built in catchup mechanic and that’s their fix lol

[keen spruce]

@earnest remnant

I've only killed 5 normal bosses

[gusty mirage]

Tier check?

Fuckin nerd

[keen spruce]

0

[gusty mirage]

ily Shmeeps

[earnest remnant]

[gusty mirage]

No

[keen spruce]

look here fuckos

0 tokens have dropped for our raid

[real stirrup]

After Crimson Tempest is procced do we just Fan of Knives, Envenom whilst maintaining ruptures outside of SD and garrotes insides stealth? Or is it Fan of Knives, spatter, envenom?

[gusty mirage]

Off to lfr you go

[keen spruce]

not zenith tokens

any tokens

I did lfr last night

no zenith

[earnest remnant]

skill issue

[keen spruce]

2 signet brands tho

lost both rolls

but i get to raid in like 3 hours

surely i'll have 4p and a girlfriend by the end of it

[gusty mirage]

Get 2k IO and get your token

[keen spruce]

i've had 2k

since like wednesday

[gusty mirage]

So you have 1pc

[keen spruce]

no i'm waitin

to see what i get from raid

[gusty mirage]

Yeah but you have tier

Liar

[oak tangle]

you'll be big duck either way

[keen spruce]

not until i buy it

[gusty mirage]

It’s still tier

[keen spruce]

nuh uh

[gusty mirage]

It for sure is

[keen spruce]

it's a token of mastery

[abstract jacinth]

I am doing something giga-wrong in keys, I can never get a full setup/KB off on mobs even in 17+

[keen spruce]

that's not tier

[gusty mirage]

You go to a vendor and pick a tier piece of your choosing

[keen spruce]

it's a fancy rock

yeah exactly

[gusty mirage]

Therefore it’s tier

[keen spruce]

it's a currency

that's like sayin a 10 dollar bill is a cheeseburger

smh

[unique sorrel]

Be lazy and play the Arterial Blindside build in pins then

[gusty mirage]

It is

[unique sorrel]

Takes so much less brainpower

[real stirrup]

"In AoE this usually is not an issue since we replace Mutilate with Fan of Knives on 3+ targets." Wouldn't we still maintain spatter still though?

[keen spruce]

okay fair enough

[gusty mirage]

More cheeseburgers for us

[keen spruce]

[gusty mirage]

That’s what we need

[unique sorrel]

I’ve also found the KB - DTB build works 100000x better in a 5stack instead of pugs

[oak tangle]

yes but that's 1 gcd

[tropic tundra]

Anyone can answer why I’m simming much higher with sub even after getting throns boots? It’s not that I don’t like it, but just wanted to know how other ppl are doing / and why most of the top records are sin

[abstract jacinth]

ye that might have to be the way, shit just dying too fast and i have shit parses now lol

and/or i just suck

[real stirrup]

What do you mean?

[unique sorrel]

Do what I do and say “I’m doing prio damage I promise” and the voices go away

[tropic tundra]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/s11rWrvthdDAE2ME2nrfJd

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3BV9rLgTmUa7gigeAH8tPp

[oak tangle]

spatter is a mutilate once, and it's applied for 10 seconds

[proven jasper]

It takes 1 mutilate to maintain spatter and after its up you can just FoK

[abstract jacinth]

LUL thats one way, also tryna do 20's and trying to compete with actually good people probably doesn't help my cause

[real stirrup]

Ah right but after 10 seconds wouldn't you reapply it?

[oak tangle]

yes

[proven jasper]

yes?

[unique sorrel]

You can do cracked dam in 20s with DTB build it just takes some coordination on pulls

[real stirrup]

That's why I was confused by "In AoE this usually is not an issue since we replace Mutilate with Fan of Knives on 3+ targets."

[oak tangle]

i mean you do replace mutilate though, until you need to rebuff

[unique sorrel]

Only person I’ve been losing to in my keys so far has been my demo lock buddy and it’s painful

[proven jasper]

well we do but you want to keep spatter up

[unique sorrel]

You replace it as your builder, still gotta apply spatter

[outer cairn]

Lucky night. Got witherbark and sandglass last night

[violet sonnet]

damnnnn

[outer cairn]

now to go farm daggies

[violet sonnet]

i keep getting trinkets that i dont want

[real stirrup]

Great thanks so after Crimson Tempest it would be Fan of Knives, Spatter, Envenom, Fan of Knives, Envenom, Rupture, something like that until next KB?

[outer cairn]

I'm just glad I could replace DBD

I had a My'das

but then the witherbark dropped so i was stoked

[violet sonnet]

im running counterweight/mirror right now

it stinks

[tropic tundra]

Dramatic

[unique sorrel]

Just keep spatter up on prio target and then smack with envenom en masse

[outer cairn]

i had a CW too

lol

but sim told me to still run dbd

[unique sorrel]

I’ve got Branch + Bandolier and I hate it

Double on use

[outer cairn]

I do gotta keep working on improving on the plate spinning and especialyl when things are getting hectic and bleeds are dropping

also getting into higher keys, getting the timings down on when to use stuff

still get to some boss fights and near the end i'm just dead on energy

[unique sorrel]

Ngl, assa didn’t feel SUPER nuts until higher keys

Stuff needs to live to get spatter damage

[outer cairn]

once stuff starts to live a little longer. The 17 I did last night I could start to feel the difference with the packs

[unique sorrel]

I didn’t swap off the Arterial build till 18+s

[royal lantern]

bruh

arterial is good in +21

just have a havoc dh and stuff dies in 6seconds anyway

[outer cairn]

lol

true

my team was mostly aoe

so i did hybrid just for a bit more st

[violet sonnet]

i havent tried arterial is it performing decently?

[fallow acorn]

what do you need for 2k mythic+ rating? like all 17s?

[abstract jacinth]

+2 on all 19's or 20's

[fallow acorn]

just on week one, though, right?

you get some extra score next week

[proven brook]

timestrike

is it only doing 15%? or supposed to be 30%

[outer cairn]

ignore my math

to early

[keen spruce]

yeah if you combine next week

it's like 16s and 17s

for just this week is like a mix of 20s and 19s

depending on how fast your times are

[outer cairn]

ez for you to say running with evo

[gusty mirage]

@keen spruce get me a 20 atal

ty

[outer cairn]

getting them 20s

[gusty mirage]

who's evo

[outer cairn]

aug evoker in my guild discord

i showed shmeeps powerpoint and he was like i know that guy

[tawdry gulch]

deadly or instant poison with the m+ build?

[outer cairn]

deadly

[gusty mirage]

I'm so confused by people asking about instant poison

[outer cairn]

kids these days

wanting instant gratification

[gusty mirage]

deadly does the same instant damage as instant

[keen spruce]

oh are you in basecamp?

[gusty mirage]

and has a dot

[keen spruce]

I've been playing with mitchey since last season

[outer cairn]

stop making sense

[keen spruce]

he's a dirty memer

[outer cairn]

yes i am

he posted the 20 you guys did

need you to teach me the ways for M+

[keen spruce]

i'm trying to get him to play dev

cuz aug feels bad

[gusty mirage]

and why would you do that

you think dev is any better?

[keen spruce]

nothin dies

[gusty mirage]

lmao

[keen spruce]

well i'm not having him play pres

[outer cairn]

I remember the first key i did with an aug and i was like, look at that damage and got told it was because of the aug then did a key without an aug and damage was basically the same

[gusty mirage]

what's wrong with augvoker mr. 2k io

[keen spruce]

nothin dies

can't do waycrest

[gusty mirage]

you can't?

[keen spruce]

cuz if tree man roots someone that isn't the aug

u can't break them out

[gusty mirage]

you can't?

[keen spruce]

i mean we did it on a 20

feels bad

damage bad

survivability same

smelly lizards

[gusty mirage]

damage fine

you just lust tree boss

[keen spruce]

[gusty mirage]

lol

[cerulean walrus]

Augmenter Vol’Kal is funny

Goofy ah swaps

[keen spruce]

oxi lizard simp

[outer cairn]

aug me baby one more time

Honest question though. What is probably a few things between doing good damage vs like trucking packs in M+ with Sin? Bleed management? Maintaining uptime of CS?

[jaunty dew]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[drifting cedar]

do we use shadow dance or kingsbane after we apply all the bleeds on a small pack that will most likely die quickly

[gusty mirage]

you want to always kingsbane in dance

or from stealth

[vestal wren]

going for the NS snapshot

[jaunty dew]

Is there an updated whispyr sim sheet?

[gusty mirage]

he's not doing a sheet anymore

[jaunty dew]

sadge

[rain crystal]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[vestal wren]

^ is up to date, and i will re-run and extend it over time

[violet sonnet]

Should i craft Toxic Thorn footwraps next or upgrade weapons first?

i have slimy expulsion but not sure if its worth to do the switch now or later

[strange python]

so to use this new weapon upgrade, i have to "shadowflame craft" the item first right?

seems pointless it's just 476 or something

pointless may be the wrong word - temporary may be more succinct

[slow sluice]

Anyone else getting declined for 1+ hours for m+ (17,18 keys)

[flint tusk]

yes

[violet sonnet]

yeah

[strange python]

lol yes

[flint tusk]

even queued with an already 2k rated tank in 470ilvl

[violet sonnet]

the only way im doing 16+'s is running guild keys lmfao

[slow sluice]

Think I’ve queved for at least 100 dungeons now

[ornate pier]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[feral mason]

!branch

zamn

[sick abyss]

Need some branch love

[feral mason]

how does branch extending / stacking of orbs work

[strange python]

each orb stacks and refreshes the buff

[minor finch]

Do we know what spec is the m+ play. I have the old 4p and I know it’s not great for outlaw

[teal maple]

Is there a section for assa macros?

[sick abyss]

so always gather two then get the 3rd laer, but when does kingsbane tmiing come into play

[oak tangle]

1/1/7

on dm

it will end just after your final kb tick

[real stirrup]

Having issues with KB timings even with WA: do I fit in crimson tempest before vanish?

[sick abyss]

that pretty mental lol

[strange python]

you talking single target or aoe (i hope aoe)

[real stirrup]

yeah aoe

[shy axle]

that 4p chaining means env -> 4cp+ - env when the other env has 2 seconds left and so on? If your cds come up you just cut it and pool to spend everything during it and get up again? Hoe much energy do you want to pool? 80% from300 meaning only starting that env chain at a minimum of 240 energy?

[static glacier]

Yes you do

[real stirrup]

There's a lot of time within KB so I try to get many envenoms, garrotes out before 2nd shiv, thistle tea vanish

[proven jasper]

I usually just send ct right after my envenom in ShD

[strange python]

yeah i mean as long as you're maintaining uptime, shiv around 8'ish, tea below 6, and vanish below 3, you should be ok

[echo geyser]

With Garrote not giving 5 CP anymore, what 3 globals are optimal to press after vanish? (in the last 3 seconds of kingsbane)

[half dawn]

yo boys. quick question, is there a reason why RWF guilds are running sub rogues instead of assa for prog?

tbh idk the mechanics of the 7th boss but I saw echo is using 2x sub and i was wondering what the reason was over assa

[deft vault]

garrote ambush rupture i believe

[still creek]

Sub better timings on smolderon, thats why. Sub is also pretty good on other bosses

[deft vault]

there is damage amp phase on that boss that lines up well with sub cds

[maiden stream]

anyone got a good reliable spreadsheet or something that shows the value for all classes sets this tier?

[deft vault]

its every 1 min 40 sec and assa cant have cds for every onee of them

[half dawn]

thanks for the detail info @deft vault and @still creek

makes total sense

was assa used for any kills in the race so far?

[still creek]

all other than smolderon

[deft vault]

every single one except smolderon

[half dawn]

oh KEKW

thanks 🙂

good to see rogues being back in prog 😉

[strange python]

check dm's

[timber meadow]

did i do my sim wrong or does the heroic brand sim like 3x more than the normal for some reason?

that seems odd for a trinket

[sick abyss]

man trying to keep an eye out on these light blue translucent balls is mental lol

[echo geyser]

Refreshing a rapture is better than an Envenom w master assassin? Since we already have a nightstalker'd rapture going from the previous shadow dance

[hexed willow]

*rupture

[outer cairn]

woot. got 1 dagger

[deft vault]

that rupture is falling off when youre going into vanish

[echo geyser]

its not though

[deft vault]

it is

youre not refreshing rupture in dance

[echo geyser]

oh we dont do that anymore?

that makes sense in that case

[outer cairn]

@gusty mirage mind if i send you a dm?

[deft vault]

you gar ambush rupture mut snd mut mut env dm shiv dance kb gar env mut mut env

[sick abyss]

we dont refresh rupture? since when

[deft vault]

at least a week

[gusty mirage]

sure

[sick abyss]

even if rupture is gonna fall off?

[deft vault]

it wont fall off till vanish

[echo geyser]

Yea that makes sense @deft vault , thank you!

Would that opener change in an m+ build, since ambush gives 1 less combo point?

[rotund wagon]

It shouldn’t in opener

[echo geyser]

or fuck it just do the same

[deft vault]

so you refresh in vanish

[rotund oak]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[sick abyss]

oh so we refresh rupture in our vanish window?

[gusty mirage]

it's like slightly more damage to do it

but you can just gar amb env

[deft vault]

i believe whispyr said it was a small gain

[gusty mirage]

it's a super small optimization

and can be awkward sometimes

[sick abyss]

i want smallllll gainnnsss

[timber meadow]

is it expected for heroic brand to sim like 3x as much as normal? didn't expect ilevel on a trink to be that significant

[devout prism]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[deft vault]

in single target?

[echo geyser]

yy

like the boss in an m+

[deft vault]

well if you have snd up already then you remove the snd part

[echo geyser]

fair

[deft vault]

otherwise yes same opener

[echo geyser]

ty ty

[deft vault]

whyspir made a video about the opener

[bleak ivy]

Once I got to +16 and swapped to hybrid spatter is m #1 dps ability lol

[haughty flicker]

rolled a 15 on the t swift dagger but the outlaw rogue forgot to change loot spec to sin

lmao get fucked bozo

[strange python]

lol

[static glacier]

back to galakrond's fall prison with you

[sick abyss]

whats the link to hybrid spatter?

[bleak ivy]

It's on wowhead

build is literally called Hybrid m+

[haughty flicker]

yeah no nicholas yet but at least i have 2 daggers as upgrade fodder now

[sick abyss]

on the mythic + section just has talents listed and dunegons

[bleak ivy]

0 loot from every dawn of the infinite I ran

whaat do u mean?

[charred shard]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/talent-builds-pve-dps#mythicplus-build-hybrid

[fallen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/get-him-south-park-its-christmas-in-canada-s7e15-seize-him-gif-22110406

[sick abyss]

im in the wrong section i think lol

[bleak ivy]

now im wondering how the fuck u found this

[indigo mulch]

[sick abyss]

hahaha

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/mythic-plus-dungeon-tips

[brittle pawn]

is crippling poison troll this week??

[indigo mulch]

Yes

[timber meadow]

we dont break till 4pc, correct?

[drifting cloud]

no, you break for 2p

[indigo mulch]

We do

Asap

2p + 2p is close to 4 or 5% gain over 4p

[timber meadow]

ah oaky cool

[indigo mulch]

Don't quote me on numbers but it's a gain. That's all =d

[runic basin]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[rugged grail]

is the arterial shock build different to play than the hybrid m+ build ?

and is hybrid still viable ?

[sick abyss]

just looking over those talents as well, looks like shiv has a bigger impact

[thorny pond]

Very

[indigo mulch]

I play hybrid 99% of the time

[thorny pond]

Hybrid is crazy burst

[indigo mulch]

I couldn't really get arterial work

[rugged grail]

so why homepage recommend dance st or arterial m+ ?

[haughty flicker]

ive noticed literally no difference between the m+ builds

except for the fact that i like having blindside

only reason i use arterial

[indigo mulch]

Not sure if it's cause I don't have 4p but everytime I run It i int the key

[haughty flicker]

i dont have any tier yet

keep rolling 1s

[indigo mulch]

Skill issue then

[weary pier]

dumb question but does ambush also apply caustic spatter

[indigo mulch]

My mage and my dh just blows everything up 😦

In my group

[haughty flicker]

it does indeed apply caustic fortunately

[weary pier]

thanks

[strange python]

!smolderon

[hexed willow]

1:40 cds needed, subtlety lines up, sin doesn't

[strange python]

thx bot

[runic hinge]

something something sub cds good

[strange python]

mannnn if i aint throwin my kb into something 3 sec before an immune phase

i dunno what i'd be doing

[hexed willow]

now time for my question; when do I use shiv for the arterial precision m+ spec?

[strange python]

just use it bruh

when it feels right

I tend to save a charge, unless i'm really gonna benefit from it though

like you got 5 garrotes and 3 ruptures out, everything is CT'd...send

[hexed willow]

ah so not a prep thing like before KB

[maiden stream]

u can pump your shivs into dance+kingsbane window, amplifying all ur bleeds and also amplifying caustic spatter during your kingsbanes

thats what i've been doing at least, and hit over 500k consistently in pulls

[strange python]

i mean mathematically - you'd want to use it when sending KB, i'm sure. But things are so dynamic in m+ - i'm just saying I dont save it for KB. I send it when i'm gonna benefit from it.

[haughty flicker]

its the same as the other build according to whispyr

[hexed willow]

interesting

[haughty flicker]

they literally play the same except for blindside

[silent stratus]

fastest way to loot some daggers to play sin in normal raid (as I've been looting as outlaw all the week)?

[haughty flicker]

get lucky

[silent stratus]

aside from spending 100k gold in AH

[strange python]

fastest way - hit the honor vendor

[haughty flicker]

if you havent done dreamsurge and time rift this week

you can get stuff to upgrade to 450

[hexed willow]

^

[silent stratus]

I still need to loot them to upgrade

[haughty flicker]

you buy them

token from weekly

just click on dagger

[hexed willow]

and then upgrade

[silent stratus]

which weekly? superbloom?

[strange python]

time rift i think

[hexed willow]

time rift and dreamsurge

[strange python]

that's where i had to go for a 450 trinket

[silent stratus]

alright ty ill check it

🙏

[hexed willow]

finally replaced that fucking trinket

oooo wait more questions

[haughty flicker]

ye its good source for gear for alts

[bleak ivy]

should I be doing timerifts ?

[maiden stream]

u can do weekly pvp quest and upgrade hellbloom dagger to 463, then conquest one to 450

[strange python]

if you really need a 450 somewhere

[bleak ivy]

I could use some better trinket does it provide it?

[strange python]

oh yeah i forgot i'm trying to get that conquest trinket this week

[strange python]

yeah there's like 3-4 to choose from

[haughty flicker]

there are indeed trinkets you can buy

[bleak ivy]

which ones is looking best?

[maiden stream]

this is legit great for a weekly open world quest

[strange python]

they were all similar - so i picked the one that does aoe too

it like spawns tornados

[bleak ivy]

Oh I got one

the doomhammer one

[haughty flicker]

yeah i remember at start of expac the world pvp gear was super easy ilvl too

[strange python]

i mean my trinket i had on was like 405 so

[bleak ivy]

I cant drop any good tirnkets

no trinkets at all actually drop

xd

im spamming 16+ dawns of the infinite for a nick of time or hourglas

and still 0 loot from this dung

[sick abyss]

how did you get this

[fleet whale]

is it the sparks of life quest for the pvp stuff i need?

[devout prism]

Try to at least do 17+ or else you'll be sad when you get a champion version instead of Hero

[ebon patio]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[dull patio]

Hi everyone, I have a question about energy spending, I'm not a good player (my best is around +19 in the previous extension) but I have the feeling here that even though we have a greater energy pool, it feels slower and I often find myself after several packs or long bosses without energy and having to wait for it to fill (or for a tea). Do you also experience that or am I missing something important?

[timber meadow]

so i see that most assa are running ic on council which makes sense if the mobs are grouped but maybe its just first day stuff but ours arre pretty spread and only really seemed like i got ic value on pull... is it still worth if thats the case?

feels like mabye just not running ic would be better if they're spread

[royal lantern]

mate, its week 1

people run w/e

[timber meadow]

aight yeah thats why im discussing it

rather than just looking at it and being like "must run ic everyone else is"

[maiden stream]

warmode weekly quest, get sparks for the upgrade currency, and buy a weapon for bloody tokens to use them on

[lavish hazel]

!trinket

[proud torrent]

When you’re doing large pulls in m+ how many targets are you expected to keep bleeds up on

As many as poss or is there like a cutoff when it’s too many

[haughty flicker]

enough that you're always above 50% energy

while filling every gcd

[unkempt tangle]

how does sim consider branch ? Is it all orbs at once ? or 2 orbs in 1sec and then wait 7sec for the lasto ne ?

[devout prism]

What build are you running? I found I had that issue with Hybrid build but with Shock build it feels way smoother

[dull patio]

I don't really understand all the terms, but I took the Dragon tempered blades build from icy veins.

[static glacier]

2 orbs then 7 seconds until 3d

[devout prism]

I tend to try to just do the IC bleeds and then stick on a prio target for the initial KB period and then spread more stuff after that if stuff is still alive

[faint path]

which quest is that

[devout prism]

On Icy Veins it's labelled the AP build

[unkempt tangle]

anyway to sim with all orbs at once ?

[dull patio]

you mean, the shock build is labeled AP ?

[devout prism]

Yep!

[dull patio]

ok, I'll try that

[devout prism]

Though I've been using blindside instead of tiny toxic blade

[static glacier]

my question is how / why would you get all orbs at once

[nova flax]

Holy shit kingsbane nerfed by 35%

[static glacier]

at best i'd imagine you could manage to get 2 sec > orb > 2 sec > orb > 1 sec > orb

[spice surge]

dragonflight.witherbarks_branch_timing=1/1/7
Is the default now, so if you wanted to sim all at once you'd do 0/0/0

[maiden stream]

turn on warmode, go to the pvp place and theres a tuskarr guy telling you to play the game in the bottom zone

[nova flax]

Was fun while it lasted bois

[unkempt tangle]

wow nice

[light sky]

How do I get a dang spark

[faint path]

that would be huge upgrade for me 😄 let me gooo

[unkempt tangle]

I just want to see wosrt case scenario

[lofty junco]

no nerf until u show patchnotes^^

[maiden stream]

where do you see the nerf for kingsbane?

[storm forum]

I think they're baiting

[flint tusk]

name checks out

[maiden stream]

better be, this is how kingsbane should have been in Legion, and never was

[lucid rain]

if there's a change it's usually in the pins

[lofty junco]

jsut when i was to type it

[lyric kelp]

Hey guys, in single target, during kingsbane/shadowdance window, in the last 6 seconds i should put in the most envenoms as possible. Does that mean i should use envenoms even on lower cp, or only on +4?

[lofty junco]

we always want to shiv+envenom+deathmark before going into SD+KB?

https://i.imgur.com/DjBoHAe.png

[storm forum]

Yeah, want all the buffs up before KB

[slim hamlet]

not in that order but yea

[storm forum]

So you can focus on pressing env and auto attacking and timing other buffs and stuff

[lofty junco]

so envom+DM+shiv then drop kb+sd macro?

[still creek]

yes

sd before kingsbane tho

[storm forum]

Just make sure your macro is in the right order

[devout prism]

Basically, need SnD and rupture first too though