assassination

[surreal citrus]

jej

[balmy condor]

gotta hit it with a jajajaja for my latinos out there

[junior aurora]

hey whispyr when you coming to brazil jajaja

[balmy condor]

brazil far away

long flight

I have bosses at wowhead that are brazilian

they flew in for blizzcon

[junior aurora]

you have a lot of bosses then

[balmy condor]

there's a couple yeah

[junior aurora]

is there even a brazilian people working for wowhead? to have that many bosses

[fervent jasper]

Is dungeon slice the most accurate way to sim M+?

[balmy condor]

yes

to both

but the wowhead one it doesn't really matter where people are

two of them just happen to be brazilian

[turbid bone]

Sudden demise 😮

[balmy condor]

that looks like a +7 if I've seen one

[junior aurora]

go do throne of the tide

hit a fat 18 mill sudden demise on ozumat

[marble hemlock]

[balmy condor]

oh

I zoomed in

yeah that's an ozumat sudden demise

[turbid bone]

yeah, so much meme power here

[frigid perch]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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LE's Group
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Ceverion's Plater
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Pooling Practice Tool

[balmy condor]

the skew on stuff is crazy this season

you look at everbloom overall damage

[marble hemlock]

ye ngl

[balmy condor]

and it's crazy high

and then you realize

yalnu kekw

[marble hemlock]

idk why they kept the "do omega dps" on 2 of the dungeons

[drifting cloud]

theyre italian so opinion disregarded

[balmy condor]

big number fun I don't really mind it that much

[junior aurora]

nah keep it in

[marble hemlock]

hey, every mind that is conditioned to think "assa = good" is a gain

[junior aurora]

how else am i gonna do 300k overall

[balmy condor]

m+ for me has always been giga blast with the boys

pull half the dungeon, do 5 mil dps, wipe cause it's way too much

laugh

pull it normally

[turbid bone]

tell your tank to get gud

[junior aurora]

throne of the tides got a lot fuckin easier when my group decided maybe going slower is the play

[balmy condor]

now it's "pls pull the galakrond dragons one at a time pls I can't heal it :("

[junior aurora]

not pulling that cursed 20mill hp lieutenant mob with casters lol

[balmy condor]

kinda sad

everbloom is such a cranker dungeon

I love everbloom

[junior aurora]

love for everbloom is binary

melee love it

ranged hate it

its pretty funny getting to berserkers and watching your 1 ranged dps die on cd

[balmy condor]

black rook hold is also back to the good old days

as is darkheart

[drifting cloud]

pugging tyra everbloom sounds miserable

[balmy condor]

but darkheart everything oneshots

so

kinda pain

[junior aurora]

really? everbloom bosses seemed on the easier side of bosses this season

[drifting cloud]

well last one is free, first one is easy

[junior aurora]

outside of the 3rd boss but the damage is scripted there

[balmy condor]

darkheart gives you that false sense of security, you get to first boss like yeah everythings fine

and then post 1st boss trash

fucks your shit

[drifting cloud]

the middle one im more worried about

[marble hemlock]

darkheart still elusiveness dungeon

[oak tangle]

is there a nice way to do the trio boss in everbloom?

[junior aurora]

burn one down and bait pools away from casters

[marble hemlock]

bait charges, move melee dude to the non-channeling caster to cleave

[drifting cloud]

blowing up the right one seems to work good on fort atleast

[oak tangle]

hmm how to bait, cause i just see pools appear

[balmy condor]

we just stacked the charge guy onto one, focused the charge guy, and when he charged we pulled onto the other one, so always 2 target cleaving, but the healer said it was kinda sketch

it made the boss much faster though

[junior aurora]

pools go down when the charge goes off

so just be away from the bosses when the charge goes off

[marble hemlock]

when the melee dude charges

every player spawns shit under them

[balmy condor]

yeh

[marble hemlock]

so just run out when it happens

[junior aurora]

everbloom was cursed af on run 1

[marble hemlock]

so you dont bait pool on the casters

[balmy condor]

we just followed him on the charge

[oak tangle]

so you reckon nuke the charger first?

[junior aurora]

no

[marble hemlock]

he has more hp

[balmy condor]

I would probably not

[marble hemlock]

so you cleave off of him

[junior aurora]

you just cleave him down

[balmy condor]

but it was real fast

[marble hemlock]

for speed

for safety

you nuke one caster

[balmy condor]

yeh

I'd nuke whatever the guy on the right is

the sun guy

[fallen knoll]

telu goes down first

[oak tangle]

the healer one

[balmy condor]

no not the healer

[fallen knoll]

healer is the one on the left, you just interrupt

[balmy condor]

the other guy

that isn't charge

or heal

[junior aurora]

i dont think it matters

does it?

[haughty flicker]

i love every person giving different answers lmao

[junior aurora]

you're interrupting the mob perma anyway

[marble hemlock]

they both do same dam

[junior aurora]

i've been doing left bc id rather if we fuck up an interrupt the bloom go off then the heal maybe

[balmy condor]

we're kinda all agreeing, just painful explanation

[marble hemlock]

but left guy is just 2 interrupts, right guy is a poison dispel. so if you dont have one, getting that one dead first is the safest way to play

[junior aurora]

the tyrannical check in there will just be statchecking your healer on the 3rd boss honestly

[haughty flicker]

i didnt realize the pools spawn on players during charge though, thats good to learn

will make it easier

[fervent jasper]

How come haste is better than vers in M+ now than it was in prior expansions? It still seems like haste would be bad in AoE because of Venemous Wounds just like it was before

[oak tangle]

i mean even just hearing what they do is good shit, cause i've basically just been winging everything so far

[marble hemlock]

because were no longer overcapping in aoe thanks to sanguini blade

[junior aurora]

did you guys notice you can't cloak off the fire shit on 3rd boss of everbloom

[drifting cloud]

yeah I noticed when I died

[junior aurora]

i procced cheat death lol

[exotic rose]

Hey guys does anyone have a rupture snapshot WA, plz? I know pressing envenom is similar dps but in case i do end up refreshing rupture with snapshot, i would like to know that is has been empowered so i dont refresh on pandemic.

[raw raft]

Nick of Time and Double Time dropped in the same key pog

[drifting cloud]

[balmy condor]

nick of doubled time time

[fallen knoll]

luxthos wa got both garrote and rupture green dots on them

[latent onyx]

trying some sin again after playing OT the last few days and its kind of nice to have time to think. legit think OT is just too damn fast for me to keep up

[exotic rose]

thanks, i'll check it out

[balmy condor]

very good opinion

[fervent jasper]

how many targets until we don't deathmark anymore?

[drifting cloud]

go to bed

[arctic tusk]

should I be swapping targets for IC garrotes

clicking the main target is troubling in big packs xd

[drifting cloud]

if its 5 or less you dont have to

even more if youre extra lazy

[slate crown]

Devlin, Whispyr, and LE groups also have snapshotted WAs. If you want a standalone snapshot aura without an entire pack, here's a standalone aura: https://wago.io/Ama4BmF-9
(Includes scent of blood stacks now)
You can see the groups I mentioned above here:

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[arctic tusk]

can i add that to zacs WA somehow?

the blue pandemic timer to show its snapshotted

[slate crown]

You can always import one weakaura into another pack

Most pack authors use dynamic groups so you should be able to just place whatever aura you want into the dynamic group you want it in and it should slide right into place

I don't know more details about Zac's pack, so I'm not entirely sure how he set everything up

But you're free to give it a try and see how it goes

[arctic tusk]

yea tried but im not sure where i would put it

if i throw it in its just a rupture in the middle of my screenm

[eternal heath]

sandbag city boys

15 BRH

[balmy condor]

Amen

Hold the statistics down for us

[junior aurora]

we should be safe

[balmy condor]

[slate crown]

Well you'd want to make sure you place it inside the dynamic group that holds most of the other icons, you can't just directly throw it into the top level group

[eternal heath]

single handedly holding off nerfs

[junior aurora]

sub rogue is best right i saw it on the only hard raid boss

why nerf sin when sub is best

[balmy condor]

Your sacrifice is appreciated king

[eternal heath]

I did get ass blasted by a rock right after 2nd boss

[arctic tusk]

@slate crown

i assume in here

[eternal heath]

Then got in the room and immediately one shot by whirlwinds, so I didnt get to dps that entire pack basically

But yeah I definitely have some learning to do for M+ apparently

[drifting cloud]

@balmy condor have u started prepping sub

its never too early!

[slate crown]

Yes, I would put it in that group. If that's not a dynamic group and is only a group, then you will need to find where you want to place it on your screen yourself. If it is a dynamic group, it should just show up with the other icons. Again, I don't know the pack you're using, you'd have to mess around with it yourself to see

[runic hinge]

Every time someone asks in general imma tell ‘em sub is the best. I seent it on jpc stream

Hardest boss killed by subx2

[cunning basin]

I just tell everyone havoc is better

[balmy condor]

No :)

[cunning basin]

Go play DH, rogue is dumpster right now

Xd

[balmy condor]

I’m probably one trick this patch

Cba learning spec for 1 boss

I’ll just XxChadTimingGodxX smolderon as sin

[cunning basin]

I get why they went sub but like

Idk unless my guild is hard struggling when we get there I'm not swapping

[balmy condor]

By the time we get there I assume nerfed

[drifting cloud]

dont be so sure

youll be there fast

[balmy condor]

Yeh maybe

Idk

[junior aurora]

gear also goes way up quick

[balmy condor]

Copium

[drifting cloud]

with +5 ilvl or whatever

[junior aurora]

not like sin is going to be inting on that fight

[balmy condor]

I don’t really want to sub

I mean if I have to

Then I guess I will

Unlucky

[stiff kernel]

In what situation you going to have to play sub?

[balmy condor]

But I don’t think I can be as good on sub as I am on sim in that timeframe

So I’m probably just going to stick it out

[balmy condor]

Smolderon

The dps phases are 1:40 apart

[proper forum]

!deathmark

[balmy condor]

Too fast for optimal assa timing

Lines up great for sub

[proper forum]

does deathmark snapshot

[balmy condor]

No

[proper forum]

ty

[oak tangle]

bruh feelsbad moment, did a 16 everbloom with friend, he gets witherbark, and in the act of trading it to me, he equips it. rofl

[balmy condor]

Time to go again

[junior aurora]

its ok you want the one from 17+ anyway

[proper forum]

ill be starting my grind tonight lol

[velvet sentinel]

does anyone know if internal bleeding still gives energy from venomous wounds?

[oak tangle]

i've got a veteran one already so no huge stress. but yeah

[stiff kernel]

Oh ok I was more worried about m+ lol. Managed to almost squeak my first 200k overall just pugging keys

[balmy condor]

Does not, specifically says garrote and rupture in the tooltip

[velvet sentinel]

ah mb, ty

[balmy condor]

Np

Also while I’m here

Here’s a sim for people

Pooling for sang is meh

[eternal heath]

I do really need to figure out what I'm doing wrong tho lol

[balmy condor]

Pooling before kb kinda suck

Not chaining envenoms is giga suck

Not pooling at all is omega cosmic succ

Gg now you know

[winged kestrel]

new to assa, is the gameplay just blasting rupture garrote and crimson tempst, and then mutilate focus one target?

[balmy condor]

Mutilate applies caustic, you would just want to mutilate to get the debuff up

[oak tangle]

what i gather from that, is as long as you understand kb window, just send envenom when tf ever

[balmy condor]

You’re a burst class

Burst opener is most important thing

[sage cargo]

Trying to understand rotation.
After my opener, and I'm maintainig dots across the mobs and caustic spatter, how would I go into my next burst window?

[winged kestrel]

what do I do after applying caustic though?

[sage cargo]

Do I hold CDs until I have vanish up again, and start from the top?

[balmy condor]

You would wait afk until dance+kb comes back and then do it again

[balmy condor]

Maintain bleeds and envenom the caustic target

[sage cargo]

Andwhat do i do at the 1 minute mark?
mutilate to 4+, envenom, dance+kb?

[winged kestrel]

thanks

[stiff kernel]

Don’t deathmark/kb the first mob you are running In to a group because everybody else is going to be targeting it to which means it’s gonna get blown TF up, spam garrotr and ruptures as much as you can during subterfuge and then get up spatter asap, CT and start hoping to fuck you’re gonna get some poison bomb procs, if it’s a longer pull use shadow dance or vanish to reapply all your bleeds etc. use cds as much as you can don’t hold for bosses imo not on fortified weeks anyways

[sage cargo]

and then spend the rest of the dance window to garrote + rupture?

[balmy condor]

Same shit you did on pull, but without Deathmark/vanish

It’s just legit copy pasted opener without your 2 mins

[steel ridge]

fuck my life 😄

[sage cargo]

Yeah, but that is indeed spread garrote + rupture with imp garrote ye?

[balmy condor]

Raid tips page going to go crazy this patch

[balmy condor]

Those are two important bleeds to maintain yes

[sage cargo]

ofc I maintain CT as well

Fuck man

[balmy condor]

Rule 1 is have enough gar+rup out for energy

If you don’t do that you’re loserNoob

Then you try to get scent stacks up

And then it’s caustic and whatever nonsense

[cosmic rivet]

Going into tyrannical weeks would we still run arterial build or will we lean more towards hybrid from wowhead? Sorry if dumb question pretty new to rogue

[balmy condor]

I assume people will typically go for hybrid and then try to cram in venom rush somehow

That’s kinda the idea

But its m+

And m+ is feelcraft city

So

We’ll see what people decide on

[drifting cloud]

are you ditching spatter on tyra whispyr

[balmy condor]

Fuck no

[cosmic rivet]

Ah okay so try it and see then I guess

[balmy condor]

Spatter goes insano hard

[drifting cloud]

these 470 people in my guild are 3 chesting +19

shit just melts

[balmy condor]

Yeah

Lower keys for sure can drop it

[crisp grotto]

does cataclysmic signet band actually prio that low for assassination? guild made me fill out the wowaudit and im staring at a guardian druid above me for the trinket

[balmy condor]

If it’s melting

[stiff kernel]

Imagine having 4pc t31 on week one

[balmy condor]

But most people aren’t cooking 19’s

[stiff kernel]

[balmy condor]

Trinkets are kinda just branch + whatever

[halcyon arch]

I enjoy being a 4-set gamer

[stiff kernel]

I blew all my luck in weps now I’m cursed with no trinkets or tier

[lethal widget]

I’m playing at 29% mastery like an absolute goon because I can only get haste Vers to drop

[crisp grotto]

Gotcha - I managed to get branch / hourglass today so I'm just gonna sit and wave

[cunning basin]

Branch + your favorite passive trinket xd

[eternal ferry]

We are pumping boys, feels so insanely good playing assa now, LOVE IT

[steel spire]

Flightstone the gear with crit mastery yolo

[drifting cloud]

if you have branch and hourglass theres probably atleast 5 people that should get signet before you

[balmy condor]

That’s pretty much bis tbh

Like it’s not bis

[drifting cloud]

if not everybody else tbh

[balmy condor]

But it’s basically close enough

[plucky canopy]

I am afraid of tuesday ngl

[balmy condor]

Yeah? The feds out to get you?

[solid void]

Did you or anyone else figure this out? I'd like to have a glow icon when improved garrote is active so I don't refresh it with a non improved version. Literally just switched to assa so let me know if that doesn't make sense

[eternal ferry]

You think we'll get nerfed or why?

[plucky canopy]

Don't want m+ to get nuked because of raid Performance 😭

[balmy condor]

Same spell id, have to custom code it

[balmy condor]

Brother if anything it’s gonna be the other way around lmao

[stiff kernel]

If BM stays as good as it is when hitting 3 buttons and assassination gets nerfed as I’m getting carpal in m+ in unsubbing no 🧢

[eternal ferry]

I was gonna say, single target isnt thaaaat good is it

[balmy condor]

It’s just burst

[eternal ferry]

We still have classes like unholy

[balmy condor]

that’s all assa does

And most of the logs atm are normal splits and people cooking heroic bosses

Im not concerned

[solid void]

As in somehow track "IF applied When stance_stealth Then Glow"?

[stiff kernel]

There’s no way BM/DH don’t get touched before rogue does I swear it, if it does happen well it was nice theorizing with you folk

[junior aurora]

damage will look more normal when bosses have teeth

Bm already got touched

[balmy condor]

Yeah kinda, there’s already shit for that though

[stiff kernel]

Touch em again

[balmy condor]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[junior aurora]

dunno if itll get touched again tho

[balmy condor]

Pretty much every group there

Already tracks it

[solid void]

Ah

[balmy condor]

Can rip it out of that

[solid void]

Cheers, and thanks for all the incredible work. Have been watching all your videos overnight

[strange python]

I don't wanna get nerfed 😦

[fringe surge]

there is any possible nerf coming for assa?

[eternal ferry]

Yea Dh still broken af

[balmy condor]

Thanks for the 3 cents of ad revenue king

[balmy condor]

Scroll up we just talked about this

[solid void]

🍞

[balmy condor]

Legit 1 minute ago

[fringe surge]

oh, ok

[junior aurora]

adblocker whispyr sorry

[fringe surge]

just came

and saw last messages

[balmy condor]

Me too, my gf is mad about it

[fringe surge]

and my worning was fucked up

[eternal ferry]

lol

[steel spire]

Tfw assas gets an aoe buff

[balmy condor]

That’s okay too

YouTube don’t pay me shit

[stiff kernel]

Is it fair to say ass rotation feels like SL venth b Druid?

Cause that’s how I feel

[balmy condor]

Not really as extreme

[junior aurora]

you need better clickbait

[balmy condor]

But ye

Getting there

[tall wren]

Love myself an ass rotation

[stiff kernel]

Just feel like I’m ramping all my stuff for those final few ticks

[balmy condor]

Venth boomkin was single handedly skipping entire boss phases

We’re not that strong

We’re just big burst

[stiff kernel]

Oh I know, I was there on the front lines lmao

[balmy condor]

But similar concept

[solid void]

When I rotate my ass definitely feels like bear form

[eternal ferry]

I always either forget to maintain shiv or press tea in the last 6 seconds of kb, after a week still hasnt burned in the muscle memory

[stiff kernel]

Too bad this build wasn’t around when that op on use trinket early shadowlands was out where you could double on use cause it took a bit for the orbs to get back to you

Wonder how the burst woulda looked then

[eternal ferry]

And if i dont forget both, i forget to refresh envenom

[plucky canopy]

Okay maybe my experience is a bit screwed playing with a havoc all week, that thing us insane in m+ 😂

[balmy condor]

Massive skill issue occurring

[tall wren]

There's a nice visual WA for a KB bar that has marks for reminding when to refresh those casts

[stiff kernel]

When in doubt weak aura it out

[balmy condor]

Yeh havoc is very good

[eternal ferry]

Yea true, still practising

[solid void]

The last tick of kingsbane really is the money shot right? Need to have everything up there and maximize output

[balmy condor]

Last 2 kinda

[plucky canopy]

So often my DM and kingsbane just dies with sudden demise before reaching peak

[balmy condor]

Like during lust if you get pi you can actually cap kingsbane in like 9 seconds

[eternal ferry]

Thats the problem with lower keys currently

[cobalt hemlock]

my issue usually in m+ is picking a good target to spatter off off because they usually die preety quick to the entire deathmark kingbane combo

[stiff kernel]

Like I said put it on something that isn’t really going to be focus’d (unless you need that prio damage)

[humble ginkgo]

Get the weakaura from whispers video

Has ticks for when u should press tea, shiv and vanish

Helped me so much today

[stiff kernel]

If you target the first mob when you’re running in, so is everybody else

[humble ginkgo]

Insane WA whoever made that

Absolute goat

[balmy condor]

Skip as an outlaw enjoyer how are you liking assa

[stiff kernel]

So don’t DMKB that

[balmy condor]

I must know

[eternal ferry]

I did, it did confuse me more

[balmy condor]

Your opinion represents the entire community

[humble ginkgo]

And it auto adjusts whether you have vanish shiv or tea up

[quiet oar]

Im enjoying it too

[balmy condor]

Your name isn’t skip

[humble ginkgo]

It’s fun, big damage is always fun but the spec feels kind of brain dead

[quiet oar]

Ye i know

[humble ginkgo]

No matter how much you make mistake you will do insane damage

Look at my logs

[balmy condor]

Fair enough

[humble ginkgo]

I first timed assa

[stiff kernel]

Is your profile banner from the game don’t scream?

[humble ginkgo]

And I played horribly

But I’m still rank 1

[dapper holly]

im struggling to see how people are doing so much damage.

[humble ginkgo]

[balmy condor]

Based

[humble ginkgo]

No

[balmy condor]

Kingsbane is a hell of a drug

[humble ginkgo]

Bleeding trees, some obscure short film I found

[stiff kernel]

Ah has the same atmosphere and film grain

[humble ginkgo]

Dawg

[dapper holly]

i watch this zerocool guy litterly shit on people

and kush

[humble ginkgo]

The kings and ticks

[quiet oar]

And playing sin in Keys after some Outlaw keys

[humble ginkgo]

Kingsbane*

Are literal crack

[eternal ferry]

Imo one of the most fun abilities in the game

[quiet oar]

Feels pretty nice for your wrist and sanity

[humble ginkgo]

Seeing my dps go from 509k to 900k in the last tick

[fringe surge]

I have a question, at the opener in aoe, i am garotte and rupture as much as i can and after i am going SD+KB , now the question is, should i focus crimson tempest and caustic or try to reaply garote and rupture?

[balmy condor]

Oh god I feel the vodka hitting

Farewell world

[quiet oar]

Drunkspyr inc

?

[eternal ferry]

Gute nacht

[balmy condor]

Tipsyr

Tipsyspyr

We’ll work on it

[quiet oar]

Pog

[stiff kernel]

If everything is clumped I would try to get caustic up asap but that’s just me and get CT out

[quiet oar]

We need people to ask dumb question

Whisp shots everytime for that

[balmy condor]

I will scream

[obtuse latch]

Finally

[balmy condor]

Big

[eternal ferry]

Is assassination better than outlaw?

[stiff kernel]

Yeah mail it over bud

[balmy condor]

Jokes on you, I’ve seen your name enough to know you’re trolling me

No bait here

[quiet oar]

Whats the crit cap whisp

[fringe surge]

can you give me a assa streamer ?

[eternal ferry]

[balmy condor]

You can’t get me either

[quiet oar]

Damn

[balmy condor]

Dumb dog

[fringe surge]

or if you know why Qazi is not streaming?

[slow needle]

If this is a serious question. Whispyr obviously streams on occasion. Zerocool is also a go to Sin fella.

[plucky canopy]

What is the benefit of playing vanish kb instead of sd kb?🤔

[stiff kernel]

That feeling in a key when the tank holds W and you can’t get a re

[rotund oak]

u are supposed to be the good example here u drunk!!!

[fringe surge]

thanks

Whispyr si the name on twitch ?

[slow needle]

Its linked if you click on his name.

[fringe surge]

ok, I will be your biggest fan

❤️

[balmy condor]

I have a 33 min video that will either put you to sleep, piss you off, or enlighten you to the illusion of restealths

It’s really a transcendent video

Got a death threat from it in discord DM’s

[quiet oar]

I remember whispyrs wall of Text with restealths dont matter

[slow needle]

Can I choose door number 4 and maintain a position of ignorance despite evidence to the contrary being provided?

[balmy condor]

Is this still a thing

!stealth

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Long In-depth explanation of why restealths aren't as important as you might think:
https://youtu.be/DoZDPFk_Zog
The TLDW (I understand, it's LONG):

• Garrote does roughly 14% of your damage overall in a key. This means from 100% improved garrote uptime to 0% improved garrote uptime, you would be losing 4.6% of your overall damage
• This is compounded by the fact that you simply do not lose that many restealths
• You still have vanish and in 10.2, shadow dance, which gives you MANY options to get your stealth effects
• This has been supported by logs and by simulations, for many years

[balmy condor]

POG

[stiff kernel]

I need my IC windows or else all I’m doing I staring at SD/Vanish cds lol

[quiet oar]

Lol

You actually have a comments for that

You are smartspyr

[balmy condor]

Fuck yeah I do bozo

[quiet oar]

If you call me bozo

Take me out

[stiff kernel]

Was this written when IC was a thing? I feel like it wasn’t

[balmy condor]

If you’re ever in San Jose let me know

[stiff kernel]

Missing 10 seconds to spread ruptures and garrotes

[balmy condor]

This was written 2 weeks ago

[fleet atlas]

i was in san jose earlier this week

[balmy condor]

Okay but I don’t know who you are

[fleet atlas]

ya but i was there

[balmy condor]

Nice

[fleet atlas]

i saw u

[stiff kernel]

So you think going into a 8 mob pull with no IC and shadow dance : vanish on cd is no biggy?

[shell kraken]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[quiet oar]

I dont know if i will ever cisit America

[balmy condor]

That’s what it says doesn’t it

[quiet oar]

Ngl

[balmy condor]

I wrote the command

[stiff kernel]

Alright we agree to disagree!

[balmy condor]

I mean it’s not a thing to agree to disagree about

[shell kraken]

@balmy condor how is your WA indicating empowered garrot/rup?

[balmy condor]

It’s supported by numbers

[shell kraken]

Visualy?

[balmy condor]

Your opinion is supported by you feeling like shit about it

[slow needle]

They have a blue outline when snapshot.

[balmy condor]

Can’t really compare that

[shell kraken]

thx

[stiff kernel]

5% is 5%, a loss is a loss, it might not be “that big of a loss” but it’s still a loss, it also feels bad for the rotation tbh

[slow needle]

It isn't actually a 5% damage loss though.

[balmy condor]

Well of course having an effect > not having an effect

[sturdy path]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[stiff kernel]

That’s all I’m saying

[slow needle]

Because not every garrote you cast over a dungeon will be empowered.

[balmy condor]

Aight well

In that case yes

I agree

[fleet atlas]

ya it would be 5% if u never had empowered but u still get empowered from dance and vanish

[stiff kernel]

Sure on paper it’s minuscule as you’ve stated im just saying it feels shit

[eternal ferry]

Sooo even if it isnt that much of a damage difference, it feels shit applying garrote and rupture without IC

[balmy condor]

Not having an effect is indeed worse than having an effect

Lowkey though bit of a drunkspyr moment

But I couldn’t give a shit how you guys feel

Damage is damage

Cry about it all you want

Simply doesn’t matter on the end result

[stiff kernel]

I agree, it’s a video game and I certainly don’t play it for validation.

I have fun until I don’t then I do something else

[balmy condor]

That’s the correct take

Amen

[tawdry flint]

whats the best build for m+?

[quiet oar]

What huh

Im not supposed to brag about my wow stuff to my crush

[balmy condor]

The 1/3 in the guide that you enjoy playing the most

[south prawn]

yodaTV he playin sin in m+ rn

[balmy condor]

Can’t help but say “yo! Duh!” In my head

[tawdry flint]

aight, first time ass. Played sub all last season so

[balmy condor]

I’m autistic

[tawdry flint]

time to sink my teeth into this

[rotund oak]

How i imagine u reacting with every mofo talkin sht for sin after the weeks on ptr and testing and all

[balmy condor]

I still get asked for the 252k sim from like a month ago

Hate the community so fucking much

It’s unreal

[eternal ferry]

What a time to play the game

[quiet oar]

But the question is

[balmy condor]

My emotional swings are insane

[quiet oar]

Why sub on smolderon?!?!?!?

[balmy condor]

I go from like I love the community they’re the best

[strange python]

CDs?

[balmy condor]

To holy fuck everyone is braindead

In like 2 minutes flat

[rotund oak]

U look more like guy by the moment

but he lashes out

[runic hinge]

Same

[quiet oar]

Ye i know, but this question came up every 30 seconds

5 hours ago

[balmy condor]

Liquid killed smolderon though

So now it’s back to assa

We got more shitstorm tomorrow

[quiet oar]

Sadge

[balmy condor]

Fucking idiots showing back up

Pain

[snow kindle]

which one performs better or feels better so far shock or hybrid m+?

[quiet oar]

I was kinda hoping smolderon would be a blocker

[balmy condor]

They perform and feel the same

Unless you’re a big blindside fan I guess

[slow needle]

I was kinda hoping Larodar/Nymue would take more than like 10 pulls on average.

[runic hinge]

Shock with blindside feels pretty good but I might go back to hybrid

[balmy condor]

Then shock feels better

[quiet oar]

But why is jpc pressing Different Buttons in his opener

Does He know more?!?!?!?

[charred copper]

What rogue spec is easiest to play in m+

[balmy condor]

Can’t wait for “why are kush and perfecto doing X” and “why is jpc in darkheart” and random screenshots from 25 seconds into the fight where jpc is doing 700k padding the roots on tindral

Tomorrow will require great mental strength

[quiet oar]

Ahhh

[runic hinge]

Outlaw because it’s the same rotation for single target and aoe

[quiet oar]

Thats why you fill up your mental strength bar

[eternal ferry]

Thats why you should keep drinking man

[quiet oar]

With vodka

[rotund oak]

sub

[quiet oar]

Idk if Outlaw is easier

[balmy condor]

Pick something from my cabinet I’ll do a shot right now

[quiet oar]

I want the egg nog

[runic hinge]

I haven’t even tried it. Just want less fotm Andy’s in here

[eternal ferry]

jacky of course

[safe rover]

Take a shot of amouranth bath water I see behind the JD

[rotund oak]

baileys

or whatever is spelled

[quiet oar]

Because He will be back in fated

[shell kraken]

@balmy condor since you are here right now - you Pooling practice Tool WA - it's sort of out-of-date right? Tells me to Mutilate if I have 4 CP atleast.

[balmy condor]

AMEN

[runic hinge]

Macallan 12

[balmy condor]

I mean if you consider a side-grade out of date sure

[quiet oar]

Actually spreading misinformations

[balmy condor]

You can finish on 4 or 5

No difference

It just uses the old rules of 5

[runic hinge]

It’s what I do best

[balmy condor]

Cause that’s what most people are familiar with

[lunar helm]

Macallan 12, neat

[balmy condor]

I’m degenerate not an idiot

Spending money for soap water

Smh

[cunning basin]

I'm also a degen

[shell kraken]

Thx! That what I thought, but I don't trust myself 🙂

[quiet oar]

If you never played Outlaw it can be overwhelming and itll be punishing if you fail your bte

[cunning basin]

I have the 3rd most m+ run of my raid team and like the 4th lowest ilevel

[violet moat]

!wa

[cunning basin]

31 keys and 4 pieces of gear to show for it

[prisma monolith]

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[quiet oar]

Have you even tried looting stuff

[eternal ferry]

I swear, same problem, no fkn luck with loot, every chest NOTHING

[cunning basin]

I'm renaming m+ to m-

[quiet oar]

Wdym

Getting Gold everytime

Is kinda pog

[eternal ferry]

[quiet oar]

[balmy condor]

Wait holy fuck that’s good I’m writing that down

Jesus

[cunning basin]

+50g
-50 brain cells

[balmy condor]

What a heater

[cunning basin]

bows been sitting and stewing on that one all day thinking about releasing it to the public

[dapper holly]

should i be spenidng my whelp/drake and wyrm crests yet?

[cunning basin]

Figured I'd beta test here

[balmy condor]

You cooked well

[cunning basin]

Do you want long run efficiency or instant gratification?

[dapper holly]

i want to maximise my small playtime i have really 😄

[cunning basin]

If you want long run efficiency, don't spend them until you absolutely have to bc your team is getting walled in m+ or raid

If you want instant gratification do what I did and send that shit

[dapper holly]

i've been collecting champion gear

but its all tier pieces which i have at 450

[steel spire]

Say less brother

[quiet oar]

You mean +50 Gold but - 300g rep cost

[steel spire]

We send

[cunning basin]

No I pugged like half my keys so I definitely mean -50 brain cells LMAO

Some of the routes I saw in these dungies were uh

We'll call them very colorful

[balmy condor]

I had a pug tank chain basically every pull at 5%

[quiet oar]

[cunning basin]

God that's the best

[balmy condor]

Was the most dps I’ve ever done in a lower dawn

Fucking restealth idiots malding

[cunning basin]

Bro on god

[balmy condor]

Stay coping bozos

[quiet oar]

Wtf whisp

This cant be

[cunning basin]

I'm just running between packs raw dogging no stealth opening on CT not giving a single fuck about opener

[balmy condor]

I did like 260 in that key I was cooking

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/explaining-gif-22499839

Restealth enjoyer trying to explain why it should matter

[cunning basin]

I didn't use KB on trash a single time in the 19 eb I did

256k overall

0 restealth except after bosses

G_G

[lavish moth]

are you even using IC?

xD

[balmy condor]

But I can’t spread bleeds man smh

[quiet oar]

You have vanish

[balmy condor]

Haha dance every minute go brrrrrr

[quiet oar]

And sd

[shell kraken]

I'm I blind, cant see the blue outline...

[quiet oar]

But you can spread smth else

[cunning basin]

I'ma be real spec is cracked, you can press random buttons and beat most m+bozos in dps

[balmy condor]

Actual brain rot thinking IC is still the one talent solution to all things aoe

It’s weaker than it was in 10.1

[cunning basin]

Caustic spatter IS the one talent solution

[balmy condor]

Clown shit occurring

[cunning basin]

Shit doing 20% of my damage

Sit back and let spatter do everything

[quiet oar]

After seeing what caustic did on tindral

I was enlighted

Ngl

[slow needle]

Pulled from his stream.

But can you see that blue glowing dotted outline?

[cunning basin]

IC bozos complaining about restealth
Spatter truthers consciously never stealthing bc it doesn't matter

[balmy condor]

I haven’t seen you miss today

[cunning basin]

Idk what it is man

[shell kraken]

In you printscreen here, but not ingame

[cunning basin]

The 3 am gremlin time hits hard

[dull pasture]

does any one know what percent of each stats is optimal :/

[balmy condor]

Raidbots.com

[cunning basin]

Also screenshotting that to repost next time I say something -5 IQ

It will happen

[balmy condor]

Or bloodmallet

Bloodmallet does that too

[balmy condor]

I specified today for a reason

[cunning basin]

LMAO

Fuck

[eternal ferry]

Isnt it like 1 am in us, the day is still pretty long isnt it

[quiet oar]

Didnt expect you Hit the - 5iq that fast

[slow needle]

Make sure the WA pack is updated to the most recent version.

[quiet oar]

But here we are

[slow needle]

No idea otherwise.

[quiet oar]

Depending on coast

[balmy condor]

Bro I’m afk in my kitchen making a sandwich and I just rawdogged like 4 slices of provolone

[slow needle]

Is there meant to be a problem here?

[balmy condor]

Yeah, whispyr is lactose intolerant and drunkspyr doesn’t care but saturdayspyr will be very upset

[slow needle]

I dunno then. Just make sure your talent build is correct I guess.

And if it is send a screenshot after opening with a Garrote from stealth on a dummy.

[slow needle]

Ah, just wash it down with Monster.

[eternal ferry]

I can relate, but still worth it everytime

[slow needle]

The caffeine will drown the lactose.

Thats how it works right?

[quiet oar]

Spyr family really hates each other

I guess

[livid thistle]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[balmy condor]

Lowkey? They kinda work together like a cleanse

[south prawn]

Mr.Whispyr i was looking for the opener and last thing u said about it is to skip the first rupture until after dance, so do we no rupture at all before deathmark?

[balmy condor]

Me and the 5 voices in my head

[balmy condor]

If you need to accelerate yeah

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[south prawn]

i c thx boss

[shell kraken]

Both garrote and rupture from "stealth"

[eternal ferry]

Refresh snd man

You still have 0,2 seconds

[balmy condor]

He’s got it trust, envenoms in there

[quiet oar]

The blue Thingy is just night Stalker isnt it

[slow needle]

What is your talent build?

[eternal ferry]

With 0 cp

[quiet oar]

The out line there is improv garrote

[delicate trench]

!sim

[quiet oar]

And He seems to have sd so He needs to have nightstalker

[slow needle]

Rupture should also have an outline if it was snapshot.

[quiet oar]

Maybe didnt rupture in sd

[quiet oar]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[lavish moth]

no one is saying that IC is the answer, just saying that if you are chaining 90% of a dungeon theres no point in using it to apply 10 + garrotes or ruptures

[slow needle]

Just trying to see if they're missing subterfuge or something.

[slow needle]

Which they're not.

Make sure to send a rupture in the subterfuge window or just hit dance and send both.

If they both have an outline then maybe Whispyr changed the colour at some point.

[balmy condor]

Okay

[quiet oar]

Uh oh

Whisp just writing okay

Im waiting for the "you know what actually"

[balmy condor]

I mean what am I supposed to say

I got a 33 minute video, a bot command, and almost a decade of statistics on my side

[slow needle]

Send a "My brother in christ" then a long message about something.

[balmy condor]

If he doesn’t want to believe me I literally can’t do anything else

So only thing left to do is just

“Okay”

[quiet oar]

I guess whisp hasnt the energy

[eternal ferry]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Long In-depth explanation of why restealths aren't as important as you might think:
https://youtu.be/DoZDPFk_Zog
The TLDW (I understand, it's LONG):

• Garrote does roughly 14% of your damage overall in a key. This means from 100% improved garrote uptime to 0% improved garrote uptime, you would be losing 4.6% of your overall damage
• This is compounded by the fact that you simply do not lose that many restealths
• You still have vanish and in 10.2, shadow dance, which gives you MANY options to get your stealth effects
• This has been supported by logs and by simulations, for many years

[slow needle]

Lies. Whispyr never has energy. He just has monster in his blood.

[quiet oar]

But what if you missed something

[quiet oar]

I mean jpc is clearly onto something

That you didnt expect

[shell kraken]

Garrote, rupture within dance *snd up so u dont whine about that@

[balmy condor]

You can drown a horse but you can’t make it drink

[verbal pagoda]

anyone else got the problem of getting stealth broken randomly in dungeons? or am I missing something?

[balmy condor]

Sark cloak is a common problem

[eternal ferry]

Do you have the 10.2 ptr wa or which one do you have

[quiet oar]

And crit flask

And evoker legy buff

[shell kraken]

Hmm there you might say something

[true rapids]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qPuGmGUG39chkFeFB2XbGu
Is double timestrike simming correctly? 441 timestrike > 476 dreamcarver in OH?

[quiet oar]

[hexed willow]

so one thing i'm not understanding, is in aoe, when should I be using mutilate over fan of knives (besides maintaining caustic spatter)? I've seen from the wowhead guide that in 3 target is when you would do it, but from watching sin doing 16s and such, it seems mutilate is used pretty often still even in 3 target cleave (and not every 10s)

[lavish moth]

So you are first undervaluing stealth with your comment, and now you are saying its a valid talent? Should we play it even if we play pugs chaining trash constantly? even if our biggest source of IC is vanish? I think its a fair question and you don't need to list with all your big celebrity achievements to comment that? 👀

[balmy condor]

Looks like you’re simming more than a dagger

[terse orchid]

Any particular reason Spiked counterweight isn't mentioned with the other trinkets on wowhead?

it seems pretty bonkers

[balmy condor]

Our biggest source of ic is dance bozo

[balmy condor]

It is, check D tier

[balmy condor]

Hmmge

[terse orchid]

oh wait

i refreshed the page and now it's there

[south prawn]

guys do we need a seperate keybind for ambush or just use it in stealth action bar instead of mutilate?

[eternal ferry]

Whisp, i did customize your plater profile for myself a bit, i saw there was an update yesterday, is it worth messing my stuff up to update it you think

[balmy condor]

Caching issue nice

[shell kraken]

Not using the 10.2 prt.... https://wago.io/a4RNXiGN8/3

[quiet oar]

People arguing about TCs about Rotation and stuff

I love it

[balmy condor]

I didn’t update anything

[true rapids]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rf7EKwFdNNB3ABwXhqxDVx
re-simmed its still a 2.6k loss

[eternal ferry]

You should then

[balmy condor]

Put it on your stealth bar in place of mut and it’s fine

[true rapids]

which sounds wild to me

[quiet oar]

You still sim more than a dagger

[lavish moth]

ty literal god

❤️

[balmy condor]

The super tldr is comparing logs between something that classically “kills restealths” like spiteful only removes a couple stealths, like in a total dungeon it’s 14 to 11ish. So you’re still getting restealths

If you aren’t, your main burst is still dance to cleave, you still have vanish to cleave, etc etc

It’s actually just

Super fine

[shell kraken]

And when I use the right one, it works 🙂 Strange...

[balmy condor]

Like idk what to say man

[true rapids]

idk why the rings are showing I am not even selecting them

[balmy condor]

We have more tools than ever to activate ic

[lavish moth]

thanks

[balmy condor]

We have more sources of damage that don’t require ic

[lavish moth]

I see

[eternal ferry]

Doesnt matter as long as it works, have fun man

[vagrant tapir]

So this thing

https://i.imgur.com/T2y00oY.png

[quiet oar]

Ye?

Its just defensive stuff

[spice surge]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842817103354658817/1154475731108249700/image.png

[vagrant tapir]

thats what I was wondering pmuch

[vagrant tapir]

ty ❤️

[quiet oar]

I can recommend beast

You actually survive so many things

[vagrant tapir]

Are you referring to a video guide for 10.2 sin?

[quiet oar]

Just leeching

[balmy condor]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Long In-depth explanation of why restealths aren't as important as you might think:
https://youtu.be/DoZDPFk_Zog
The TLDW (I understand, it's LONG):

• Garrote does roughly 14% of your damage overall in a key. This means from 100% improved garrote uptime to 0% improved garrote uptime, you would be losing 4.6% of your overall damage
• This is compounded by the fact that you simply do not lose that many restealths
• You still have vanish and in 10.2, shadow dance, which gives you MANY options to get your stealth effects
• This has been supported by logs and by simulations, for many years

[vagrant tapir]

Oooo, awesome thanks

oh look at all this

nice

[vagrant tapir]

I've heard you reference that clipping rupture is bad, I'm assuming that covers caveats one would assume to mention like nightstalker - is this just a never for sin right now?

[balmy condor]

Refreshing rupture in pandemic is fine regardless

Nightstalker is very minor

Idk what clipping you’re referring to

[marble hemlock]

http://puu.sh/JUKXo/12d7799c49.jpg
kush not updating his WAs

[winter gale]

Which m+ build is most usable atm?

[balmy condor]

Any of the 3 in the guide

[marble hemlock]

man still uses vendetta and TB

[violet moat]

@balmy condor hey brother, whats your go to M+ build is it the DTB build with IC and SD

[winter gale]

Im using Utilitarian atm but I feel energy starved from time to time but on print of 4,5 dungs so far

[vagrant tapir]

Outside pandemic to apply nightstalker, but as you said its minor

[balmy condor]

I played shock today and hybrid the day before

[balmy condor]

Try hybrid then

[winter gale]

Yeah, will try

[balmy condor]

Yeah just refresh it yolo

[winter gale]

And also, in the raid is Bone Spike build being used by all these rogues or?

[violet moat]

shock is AP right?

[balmy condor]

Ye

[balmy condor]

Nah

Some people

It’s weird

Sims higher for like 1/3 people

And then half of those people go “can’t be fucked” and don’t run it

[quiet oar]

On my rogue it Sims 2k higher

[lusty mountain]

does sin pool energy for things?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[quiet oar]

But i dont have 4p

[winter gale]

On 4p from s2?

[quiet oar]

Ye

[winter gale]

I will raid new stuff sun,mon, tue

[lusty mountain]

wheren?

[winter gale]

Ok, will try to sim shit more thouroghly today

If not SBS then we go Dance?

Dance Build*

[balmy condor]

Ye

[balmy condor]

Wowhead guide has a section talking about it

[winter gale]

Ty as always

[balmy condor]

I also have a video

On YouTube

Also talking about it

[quiet oar]

Bonespike is so much cooler than stepsis

Except on volcoross

WHERE IT HAS FUCKING TRAVEL TIME

Wtf

[sudden swift]

Can you macro shadow dance and kingsbane together? Or would that mess me up?

[quiet oar]

In st you can

Iirc

[full spear]

Everyday the same questions here, how are you not going insane

[quiet oar]

Bold of you to assume rh regulars and cfs are blessed with sanity

[slow needle]

No idea then.

[dapper fractal]

what gear can be converted in old tier again?

[fallen raven]

dreamsurge and time rift weeklies i think

can take them up to 450 then convert

[cunning basin]

Bruh I'm just here to say fuck sbs

I still hate dust more tho yolo

[cunning basin]

Long as you put SD first in the macro

Almost never gonna be a time in aoe or st where you press dance without kb

[violet moat]

for the shock build, has anyone tried dropping blindside for tiny toxic blade? is it worth?

[sudden swift]

Ty

[cunning basin]

I feel like blindside is like the big reason people like that build but I might be wrong

[radiant quail]

it helps with energy alot

[cunning basin]

And iirc ttb is like not great.jpg bc shiv just doesn't hit very hard

[violet moat]

makes sense

the ambush from blindside proc doesnt proc splatter right?

[cunning basin]

It does

[violet moat]

oh

[velvet ridge]

why is it called shock build

[cunning basin]

Bc whispyr is a mad genius

(I don't know)

I know the arterial part is for arterial precision

[quiet oar]

You would be shocked to know the reason why

[balmy condor]

I wanted a quirky shorthand name and people liked shock

Thematic when the target you deathmarked dies at 20% and your group goes “oh”

It was either name the builds or call it AP KB IC Demise with blindside

[dapper fractal]

Can I choose what peice I want?

[spice surge]

It always dies just before my last kb tick

[keen spruce]

ArtyD

[spice surge]

ArtyD2

[balmy condor]

“Do you prefer APKBICSD+BS or KBDTBICSD” just doesn’t have the same ring as “shock or hybrid”

[blazing jewel]

[balmy condor]

Scana go bedge

[blazing jewel]

I should

was blasting keys

sin in 20+ is actually really good

you just delete the prio mobs from the game

[balmy condor]

Pleb will need his strongest kittens tomorrow

[blazing jewel]

I played like dog ass on thursday

and they said if I dont do good monday

my pi privilege will be revoked

[quiet oar]

Or goes into immune Phase

Had this in throne

Literally last 3 seconds went in the immune

[spice surge]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-the-misery-oh-the-misery-everybody-wants-to-be-my-enemy-gif-25368312

[blazing jewel]

[fallen raven]

yeah, both will give you a token to choose one item

[blazing jewel]

eleem did you guys go mythic yet

[spice surge]

Nop

Havent pulled fyrakk hc yet either

Doing that on monday

[balmy condor]

The buffs are insane

Blaze doing 350k hit while everyone is taking a 60k dps dot

[livid thistle]

binding Kingsbane with dance advisable?

[quiet oar]

I just hate this. Buffing bosses midweek

[balmy condor]

Yep

[livid thistle]

ty

[spice surge]

Heal my character

[blazing jewel]

[quiet oar]

Healer issue tbh

[spice surge]

But also im a rogue, how do i die

[quiet oar]

Rot dmg

Or your healers completely ignoring you

[balmy condor]

We got to p3 and it was actually just averaging to 70k damage taken a second per person

We were 7 healing 26 or 27

And it wasn’t enough

[spice surge]

Unluck

[blazing jewel]

Wtf

When we did it with 30 mains that fight flopped

[balmy condor]

Blizzard smoking actual crack buffing things by 40 fucking percent

[blazing jewel]

That’s toxic if it’s actually hard now

[quiet oar]

Reminds me of zskarn tbh

Buffing a Boss mid week by a huge amount

[blazing jewel]

We love zskarn cheese

And when they kept messing with that bosses spell timers

[quiet oar]

Fucking everyone not nolifing the first two days

[blazing jewel]

That went hard

[meager granite]

They just want the raid to last

[naive rock]

is this macro worth using or should i remove the trinkets?

[balmy condor]

Trinkets with dm

[naive rock]

ahhh kk

[quiet oar]

You dont make a raid last with buffing heroic

[fleet atlas]

I thought we wanted to vanish / dance in the last 3 seconds of kingsbane?

[balmy condor]

Vanish yeah

[naive rock]

I thought i used to have a macro for blindside, but not sure if it works anymore this or something like this work?

/use ambush
/mut

[twilit inlet]

The joy to finally get a season 3 trinket, the downfall to see that the Spiked Counterweight sims less than the 450 blue ones I have equipped...

[balmy condor]

You don’t need a macro for blindside

Game does it for you

[naive rock]

oh that is different but a good quality of life from last time i played sin

[balmy condor]

Counterweight might be the new worst trinket available

[vagrant tapir]

does the intant damage from Envenom count as poison damage for caustic spatter?

[balmy condor]

Yes

As does kingsbane, sepsis, the main target damage of poison bomb, the damage dealt to main target by the new 4 set

Uh…………

Vicious venoms

[vagrant tapir]

Yeah I figured everything tagged as poison damage would

envenoms tooltip only referenced it as nature damage so i wasnt sure

[balmy condor]

Everything nature damage works

[vagrant tapir]

Gotcha

kkkk

just finished your stealth video

[balmy condor]

Nice

Which of the 3 are you

Offended, enlightened, or skeptical

[vagrant tapir]

from the start?

ahahahahah yeah

rofl

[subtle tundra]

thank god we did 2x fyrakk hc before it got buffed

[vagrant tapir]

Naw I buy it for sure

numbers seem to support it

[bleak ivy]

fyrakkk got buffed?

[vagrant tapir]

and its also not like restealth was ever that out of reach anyway

[shy axle]

anyone got a splatter WA that is a little bit more in your face?

[balmy condor]

As long as you don’t send me death threats in DM’s like that one dude it’s chillin

[balmy condor]

Yeah the damage got massive buffs yesterday

[vagrant tapir]

but it seems like honestly more of it's actual impact comes down to the utility we get from stealth, and less the raw damage

[jade abyss]

We using ct only for the dot right?

[upbeat pebble]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[vagrant tapir]

right

[bleak ivy]

what did you get them for?

lol

[balmy condor]

Making a video that said restealths don’t matter

[vagrant tapir]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Long In-depth explanation of why restealths aren't as important as you might think:
https://youtu.be/DoZDPFk_Zog
The TLDW (I understand, it's LONG):

• Garrote does roughly 14% of your damage overall in a key. This means from 100% improved garrote uptime to 0% improved garrote uptime, you would be losing 4.6% of your overall damage
• This is compounded by the fact that you simply do not lose that many restealths
• You still have vanish and in 10.2, shadow dance, which gives you MANY options to get your stealth effects
• This has been supported by logs and by simulations, for many years

[jade abyss]

Blasphemic!

[vagrant tapir]

editing a command when it was wrong the first time, in fact does not forward the command

[balmy condor]

Wasn’t even that clickbait

Just a controversial topic for assa rogues

[real stirrup]

In the AoE rotation are you simply garroting 2 mobs (twice) for 3+ targets. Edit: nevermind is for both proccs I think right

[gaunt moat]

@smoky coyote where you in the dungeon with me just now?

[balmy condor]

And bro’s like I know you live in California if I see your colored hair anywhere I’ll fucking kill your slur ass for being such a slur and giving such dogshit info to the community i hope you get hanged for all the slur shit you say

Me waking up on a Thursday reading that

[vagrant tapir]

[balmy condor]

Hitting him with the

And blocking

[vagrant tapir]

Something im noticing from the guides is that we dont' do any double garrotes like we used to

[balmy condor]

Exsang dead

[vagrant tapir]

Ahhhhhh right

that is why that was a thing wasn't it

riiiight

[balmy condor]

“Yuh” - Arianna Grande

[vagrant tapir]

that makes a lot more sense kk

[shy axle]

do i understand it correctly, that if i use dm + sd/kb in m+ on a trashpack, i build cp with gar on every target that does not have it but finish with env to get that kb buffed as much as possible, if gar is active i just fok/env with active splatter?

[balmy condor]

Yep

[gaunt moat]

What am i doing wrong that my CT and sanguine blades are so low?
I usually use CT after KB opener. should it be earlier?

[mossy canopy]

what are we all doing - holding on 4pc or mixing 2set+2set?

[shy axle]

thank you

[vagrant tapir]

im holding for 4

[mossy canopy]

even if it gimps your ilvl?

[balmy condor]

2+2 is just objectively better

[vagrant tapir]

have an 2 omni atm

yeah?

Hmmmm

[balmy condor]

Not even debatable

[mossy canopy]

thanks oracle