gather 2 orbs fast then wait 7 sec for last orb
#assassination
slim hamlet
soft shale
as in you get 1 orb first then at 2 secs then 7 secs later
lofty junco
and if i only want to ahve enough gold to finance weekly raiding and m+?
spiral pasture
its troll to upgrade non nick of time dagger isnt it
slim hamlet
herb and mining always a vibe
cunning basin
its troll to upgrade non nick of time dagger isnt it
not necessarily
strange python
Most guilds will finance your raiding - like even just AOTC guilds always have a cauldron and food
light summit
Do you got to manually spread dots as rogue or does it just happen automatically?
lofty junco
herb and mining always a vibe
wouldn't it be wasted if i ahve that on my dracthyr maxed already?
cunning basin
since once you upgrade that slot you dont need to spend crests for upgrades you've already done
spiral pasture
bc then when i do get nick of time i have to spend crests upgrading off-hand which is the worst piece
slim hamlet
Do you got to manually spread dots as rogue or does it just happen automatically...
what do you mean happen automatically
spiral pasture
since once you upgrade that slot you dont need to spend crests for upgrades you'...
yh but you need 2 weaps to get the free upgrades
slim hamlet
wouldn't it be wasted if i ahve that on my dracthyr maxed already?
Well you can send gold between 2 chars?
lofty junco
Most guilds will finance your raiding - like even just AOTC guilds always have a...
my previous guilds all expected that u bring everything yourself
cunning basin
yh but you need 2 weaps to get the free upgrades
thats why i didn't say its absolutely not troll, just not necessarily
light summit
what do you mean happen automatically
Well kinda mean like if you got to click on each mob and press garrote or if it just spreads with an ability or something?
cunning basin
i upgraded a non timestrike dagger, i probs won't get one this week so it won't make a difference
strange python
my previous guilds all expected that u bring everything yourself
I've never been in a guild without some overachiever that supplies that for the entire raid honestly - or a guild with a bankroll that just buys it from the AH
slim hamlet
Well kinda mean like if you got to click on each mob and press garrote or if it ...
You have IC which spreads them to more for every click, but you gotta multi dot a lot on sin
Definitely most of the dot specs
lofty junco
Well you can send gold between 2 chars?
kk. was jsut too used to having enchanting+alchemy in previous expansions. but now thats not rly needed anymore
spiral pasture
and if i get one in vault ill use new cap to upgrade it
yeah if you get it in vault its fine but thats so unlikely
unique sorrel
I’ve seen people ripping upgrades on main hand weapons no matter what and tossing the time strike one in offhand
cunning basin
yeah if you get it in vault its fine but thats so unlikely
i got 4 sark cloaks in my vaults last tier
unique sorrel
Worst case you just max it next week
slim hamlet
Timestrike is so op man
cunning basin
think i might be alright
slim hamlet
a 441 off hand timestrike is better than 463 normal off hand
unique sorrel
I saw a log and it was like 4%?
cunning basin
approx. 1% damage per dagger
light summit
You have IC which spreads them to more for every click, but you gotta multi dot ...
Damn wanted to maybe main a sin but I hate manually applying multiple dots on mobs
slim hamlet
ilvl barely matters in offhand
spiral pasture
so realistically only need 1 in vault
cunning basin
yee
spiral pasture
thats nice
slim hamlet
Damn wanted to maybe main a sin but I hate manually applying multiple dots on mo...
Well then it's the single spec in the game you probably wouldn't wanna play
marble hemlock
chizix 
stark mirage
I'm using the acro utiliarian build, should I go for echoing reprimande instead? Isn't it just a tiny dps loss to go without?
light summit
Lmfao okay gg i was excited for a bit
stark mirage
I just saw one of whispyrs video talking about acro reprimande, but wowhead only has one acro build that doesn't have it
stark mirage
ah, ok, the utiliarian it is then. Feels good anyway
thorn fjord
Ramfam playing holy makes me sad 😦
lucid rain
what's your opinion on the shiv talent vs blindside?
kind forge
arterial precision
thought you played hybrid when i saw your stream - im getting blind
earnest remnant
i swap between the 2
thorn fjord
@subtle tundra absolutely blasting in this everbloom lolol
slate crown
What key level was this? Doing a 17 and I still feel hesitant to cast kingsbane on trashpulls without a lieutenant prio mob. I guess I just need to commit and send one off even if not fully prepped to have it rolling asap. I find if I do the full lengthy prep of getting everything dotted, by then everything is 70% hp already and nothing looks like a good KB target
earnest remnant
+20
bleak ivy
when is catalyst
lucid rain
what do you think of blindside vs the shiv talent beside it?
jaunty phoenix
do we need to track blindsides anymore?
slate crown
do we need to track blindsides anymore?
For telling us what button to press? No.
I like to track it esp for ST because it tells me my next generator is free. Which is nice for planning during pooling phases
jaunty phoenix
makes sense ty
faint birch
hey guys, what poisons are we using for the m+? we stil use deadly and amplifying?
untold lynx
when is catalyst
yesterday
bleak ivy
ong?
thorn fjord
@subtle tundra show me the way bro
subtle tundra
<@225677043482755072> show me the way bro
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
slim hamlet
agreed
fallen forge
stealthi my besti
oak tangle
witherbark branch acquired, now to learn how to use it
fallen forge
do u strim
slim hamlet
stealthi my besti
click on his discord profile
fallen forge
me rn
thorn fjord
Gotta substitute the mayo for copious amounts of butter
fallen forge
slim hamlet
bleak ivy
what should I turn into tier?
thorn fjord
when i come across a hotter food take
Ketchup on a grilled cheese?
weak sierra
grilled cheese, mayo and hot sauce
lavish wagon
Yesterday i tried in raid the ST build with arterial and with caustic but is actually going better with caustic. What do you think about? Some1 tried the same?
fallen forge
Ketchup on a grilled cheese?
isnt that normal
thorn fjord
No way
fallen forge
i grew up on that
oak tangle
all i know is that salami, ketchup, cheese. goes good on any sandwhich, toasted or not
thorn fjord
That’s heinous
thorn fjord
Should I spam everbloom today or doti
fallen forge
my spriest does like 130k
thats what im doing 
oak tangle
peeps out here like it's heinous, whilst ordering a pepperoni pizza
bleak ivy
actual pineapple ppizza enjoyers
bleak ivy
pineapple dont belong on a pizza
thorn fjord
The sweetness compliments the saltiness
oak tangle
pineapple belongs on and in everything
bleak ivy
at that point its just a ''fuck you'' to italians
oak tangle
brazilian bbq - check
slim hamlet
pineapple belongs on and in everything
in me?
bleak ivy
yo?
slate crown
hey guys, what poisons are we using for the m+? we stil use deadly and amplifyin...
If you are running DTB, yes deadly and amp. If you are running shock build (No DTB) just deadly
woven helm
If you are running DTB, yes deadly and amp. If you are running shock build (No D...
Doesn't wowhead say you use Amp not deadly without dtb?
oak tangle
who's taking amp without dtb though
slate crown
Sure, but yeah the only non-DTB build right now is also not taking Amp
Also I’m not sure if that’s true for cleave anymore because Caustic spatter requires deadly
The tooltip specifically says deadly, not “a lethal poison”
thorn fjord
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full spear
arterial precision feels so much better
strange python
yeah i dont think it's god's will for me to have the branch
full spear
16 black rock
outer cairn
I think I just need to get timings down or improve rotation. I'm hitting those numbers on pulls, but not overall. bosses seem to not be the greatest
full spear
i feel like am not that energy starved in st
strange python
nah it's not bad with blindside
outer cairn
are you playing Shock or Hybrid?
full spear
shock
strange python
Shock
steel spire
blindside procs in trash 
full spear
i played hybrid before
steel spire
blindside procs on boss 
full spear
just tested shock
bleak ivy
Why yall playing shock?
strange python
That's probably actually gonna be like my goto world / questing build too honestly
strange python
Why yall playing shock?
cause it FEELS great
outer cairn
but i think after CDs, I still play a bit to spammy
full spear
even crimson tempest much stronger
outer cairn
i find it very hard to stay above 50% and keep up bleeds and envenom with shock
or aoe in general in st
full spear
*sudden demise
royal lantern
stop thinking about sanguine blades guys
just stop
in aoe it happens by default
in st you dont play around it
steel spire
🧑🏾🍳
bleak ivy
stop thinking about sanguine blades guys
I dont think about anything
full spear
i have a new pro gamer move, i focus makro now with kingsbane, so ein dont lose my target
oak tangle
i don't think
bleak ivy
I see and I press buttons
outer cairn
time to go to work and then try to push more keys. i need to start hitting 16s so i can get my aspect crests and get my boots to 486
pugs are 30/70 right now on anything higher than a 14 for me
dark token
strange python
I'm waiting til next week's vault and normal clear at least
royal lantern
cool then
outer cairn
learned my lesson
strange python
6 bag ilvl above
bruh i'm in the same boat - my old 2p is 411 and 420-something and i have 450's sitting in my bags
royal lantern
im happy either way
bleak ivy
Yall pug NM run?
slate crown
I did
oak tangle
you guys have old tier pieces?
slate crown
I only pug atm
full spear
460, im still at 447 😮
dark token
you guys have old tier pieces?
ye all my old tier is 450
but i have 470s in all ym slots i cant use
lament aurora
bruh i'm in the same boat - my old 2p is 411 and 420-something and i have 450's ...
i mean at that point removing your 2p for higher ilvl should be a dps gain
strange python
I came back to the game the day before the patch...didn't even know there was gonna be a patch. So I just did the best i could lol.
slate crown
Yeah I only have like 3 new gear pieces, still have 0 new tier pieces
oak tangle
ye all my old tier is 450
i am 448 with no tier of any kind comrade
strange python
i mean at that point removing your 2p for higher ilvl should be a dps gain
nah my sims say otherwise, or i would
it's sizeable too like 5-6% i think
slate crown
Same memz
oak tangle
teach me for rolling spriest last tier
bleak ivy
I'm 446 with tier shoulders
strange python
lemme go check again
oak tangle
and teach me for raid leading that tier, which cause me to quit for season 3 after AOTC
low quartz
I really dont enjoy our aoe sometimes
steel spire
HUH
strange python
yeah so that is true - the helm is 411 tier and i only have 424 (but not upgraded) - the chest is 431 tier, and i have 450.
oak tangle
low keys you may as well jsut spam crimson tempest cause you'll be doing fuck all else
low quartz
yeah legit
strange python
lemme sim em if i upgraded them
low quartz
putting kingsbane down in an aoe pack is just a waste 9/10 it feels like, shit just dies
strange python
putting kingsbane down in an aoe pack is just a waste 9/10 it feels like, shit j...
what key level though?
low quartz
Well this is the thing, maybe in higher keys sure
oak tangle
i need to get a plater profile which highlights common kb targets in packs
steel spire
this is outlaw propaganda
low quartz
I definitely prefer new IC, but at least before I felt like I had an AoE button
oak tangle
i personally love the new aoe style, as i am an arcane mage enjoyer
strange python
Yeah if I upgrade my gear and replace my old 2p - I only lose 0.8% dps. But i dont wanna just upgrade stuff to upgrade it.
royal lantern
3x in a row i have to depelte a key because people get dc's mid run
FUCK M+
FUCK M+ FUCK M+ FUCK M+ FUCK M+ FUCK M+ FUCK M+ FUCK M+ FUCK M+ FUCK M+ FUCK M+ FUCK M+ FUCK M+ FUCK M+ FUCK M+
shit mode destroying the game
strange python
jeez
thorn fjord
quit ddosing your group members
strange python
There's something not human about his movement (and i'm not talking about the fire shooting out of his ass).
oak tangle
it's the camera
glacial shuttle
Might it have something to do with the fact that the momentum is the same the entire way around?
strange tiger
https://gyazo.com/1a94249ece5e15b023f45519a3b09c78 is SB buggin with last boss of everbloom?
strange python
oh lol is that where my dmg is coming from
i was doing 1.2M...thought i was just good
steel spire
delete meow
glacial shuttle
Yeah I thought it was odd that I was doing 1M+ on that boss
strange tiger
yeah i almost hit 2m on ramp and seen the sb and was confused
strange python
they can fix it, but then it'll bug it in other places so
thorn fjord
https://tenor.com/view/atg-studiocapa-capa-pandu-fire-gif-24931067
Me this morning
oak tangle
is that realz' PoV?
lyric kelp
Guys, what should i do in a situation when in m+ my group is chainpulling? Reenabling stealth for discriminating carnage becomes impossible, and i end up with some packs that i have to manually dot one by one. Is that normal, or should i preserve SD/Vanish for those scenarios?
cursive jungle
midnight mist
blindside replace mutilate now
you dont need to have ambush bound somewhere else, or have a mavro
urban trench
has anyone simmed best races for assa
hexed willow
Tauren, for aesthetics
prisma cypress
fuu's thing says it goes human, troll, dark iron, tauren, dwarf, VE, orc, gnome
urban trench
fuu's thing says it goes human, troll, dark iron, tauren, dwarf, VE, orc, gnome
link?
urban trench
Thanks
prisma cypress
i play gnome for the aesthetics
fallen forge
nelf for the stealth movement speed
inner token
do someone have wa just for caustic spatter ?
still creek
We just spam CT in aoe with AP build? since no poison bomb?
still creek
even tho no poison bomb?
still creek
aytayt, been a hybrid build enjoyer gonna test the arterial shock build now
fallen forge
so theres no use in spamming
thorn fjord
Never was a use in spamming ct really
still creek
do someone have wa just for caustic spatter ?
I made one yesterday, sent u on dm
any rotational changes between the two builds?
steel ridge
:>
fallen forge
timber meadow
i assume since the arterial build is more focused around bleed dmg, its normal to expect caustic splatter to do less than with the hybrid build?
polar bridge
does shock build do same opener on dungo bosses?
rain mortar
I hate playing Tauren
Human = POG now
proud monolith
how would you go about using branch as assa? Do you just pop on pull and let the orbs come to you passively, or do you want to go after them?
rain mortar
We just spam CT in aoe with AP build? since no poison bomb?
CT has no initial damage now so you only want to reapply it in pandemic
proud monolith
or maybe even stack them
thorn fjord
how would you go about using branch as assa? Do you just pop on pull and let the...
You grab two orbs then kite the third for like 8 seconds
Then take the third
But that’s super min max
proud monolith
aha so basically like sub rogue
and you want to use on pull or maybe just macro with DM or something like that?
rain mortar
Ashes trinket is really strong right? Like it’s not a massive sim trap?
Because sim is great on it
thorn fjord
and you want to use on pull or maybe just macro with DM or something like that?
Iirc you use it before the dm cast
timber meadow
i just macro it to dm
rain oyster
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oak tangle
i assume at some point you'll just get an eye in for how far to be away for the orb to just run into at the right time
lyric spindle
What’s the right way to play shock build in m+ aoe pulls compared to hybrid? When do we shiv?
steel spire
i like NE still for the free vanish in case i need to silence a pack
thorn fjord
Alliance enjoyers 🤮
steel spire
imagine being belf after aoe kick nerf
stable atlas
hey, I migth have a possibly stupid question, I'm specced into subterfuge, yet when I leave stealth I only get the 3s free garrote + 30% crit...does it get overwritten for some reason?
oak tangle
you only get 3 seconds though
stable atlas
I leave stealth and can't press it, even within 3s
all the other talents seem to work fine
oak tangle
bomb dispenser?
oak tangle
do you have bomb dispenser equipped
oak tangle
are you breaking stealth or dropping it
stable atlas
I'm engaging, so probably breaking
oak tangle
hmmm unsure why it wouldnt be working
stable atlas
me neither, I just can't seem to ambush
steel spire
remove that ambush and replace with spell book
royal lantern
guys, i found the secret tech whisp doesnt wanna tell you about because he is a evil wizard that wants to sandbag
at like 6seconds pre-pull, feint->feint->vial for 6 stacks of the 2 set effect
static glacier
AYO
steel spire
delete
static glacier
sandbagyr confirmed
thorn fjord
guys, i found the secret tech whisp doesnt wanna tell you about because he is a ...
degen shit hell yeah
outer cairn
Does the DR from Iron Wire and Blackjack stack or should we spread them?
static glacier
Does the DR from Iron Wire and Blackjack stack or should we spread them?
you'd use blind to stop casts primarily
blackjack is an afterthought
if you need to blind a cast then do it, regardless of ironw ire
outer cairn
I understand its purpose like an AoE stun. I’m asking for general knowledge if all that damage reduction could stack up or not.
oak tangle
guys, i found the secret tech whisp doesnt wanna tell you about because he is a ...
can you kidney shot a turnip
royal lantern
then you are probs not full energy anymore at pull start
oak tangle
but you'll be slapping a tea to get charges rolling
and a cheap shot so you can be at 12 stacks going in
rotund wagon
can anybody think of anything to make branch orbs more visible
hard to see in the thick of it
oak tangle
can anybody think of anything to make branch orbs more visible
they follow you, so just let them come
past bobcat
Yeah embersoul > branch I don’t think sim too far apart honestly
rotund wagon
lets nto act like i can just shit out an embersoul
royal lantern
but you can just shit out an branch?
embersoul has the adventage that rn most specs dont want it
past bobcat
Just loot heroic last night gg
oak tangle
the orbs take 20s to despawn (i just tested) so just run enough away to have them funnel to you at the perfect time, ez
polar bridge
what if ur smol brain
oak tangle
stand still and gobble all 3 at once
unique sorrel
Macro it to Dmark and simply use minimal brain
rain mortar
Ember soul is awesome and brain dead easy to use
safe rover
arterial shock the bis spec to go atm?
rain mortar
I don’t like arterial
oak tangle
also for reference, the correct distance is like 5 yds
desert spire
Inside dance window are we building with mut to +4?
rain mortar
arterial shock the bis spec to go atm?
The one listed as “hybrid” is the best performing to me
safe rover
ye i think i need to get tea instead of melee range
rain mortar
Melee range is a crutch for sure. We don’t need it
spice spire
rain mortar
Would you run both embersoul and branch to pop one during DM + KB and the other for mini KB burst? I hate double on use but it’s probably the play no?
oak tangle
when do you ember soul? with DM?
cause if you held it for 10s left on kb, you could technically have 3 stacks of witherbark and embersoul for the last 10s of kb
dark token
double on use
chilly viper
where can I find the race .txt for simming
dark token
spice spire
where can I find the race .txt for simming
Just go human or dwarf 
strange python
grab last one at 20s
I think you grab 2 right away, then the next one at 9 sec'ish
oak tangle
no i'm not talkign about what we're meant to do
you can technically game witherbark to have a second on use trinket at the same time as the witherbark buffs
strange python
30s is the icd right?
oak tangle
20
strange python
30 sec is the shared cd between on-use trinkets, right?
witherbark spawns 3 orbs that will remain in the world for 20 sec.
which give a 10sec buff
which will refresh/stack upon picking up another orb (so pick up 2, get 2 stacks for 10 sec. pick up the 3rd - 3 stacks for 10 more seconds).
rain mortar
I thought it was 30 seconds between two on ise trinkets but maybe I’m wrong
quiet sand
I am watching Kush currently and he keeps popping dance in the last 6 seconds of his kingsbane, is there any reason for this? I thought the buff applied to the whole kingsbane if you popped it during dance.
bleak ivy
It is I think
oak tangle
I am watching Kush currently and he keeps popping dance in the last 6 seconds of...
he's probably vanishing the start
spice spire
^
strange python
I think they've always been
bleak ivy
Get hekili be called a noob but atleast rotation will be aight
oak tangle
i swear it was 20
hushed fable
It used to be 30 I think. At least when in SL Venthyr balance were using 2 on use trinkets.
strange python
Get hekili be called a noob but atleast rotation will be aight
A) may not be right B) good luck doing mechnics while you stare at that lol
spice spire
It’s always been thirty
spice spire
A) may not be right B) good luck doing mechnics while you stare at that lol
C. It doesn’t factor seal fate so rotation likely wrong still
ebon temple
i think it depends on trinket cause last tier i would use bomb and beacon would go on 30s cd but if i used beacon bomb would go on 10s cd
strange python
See A 
gilded oasis
D. Eeze nuts
blazing roost
is there a spreadsheet that says what does the raid dagger do?
bleak ivy
A) may not be right B) good luck doing mechnics while you stare at that lol
Its right and ive used it for a long time I can just see it in peripheral as a suggestion and never had problems with mechanics
hearty reef
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strange python
I can't honestly believe that people use hekili for anything but to each their own
hushed fable
i think it depends on trinket cause last tier i would use bomb and beacon would ...
Yes it does, if the trinket has a v short cd, but we are talking 2 min cds here. So it's 30.
ebon temple
i see 
bleak ivy
I can't honestly believe that people use hekili for anything but to each their o...
Plenty of top tier m+ players using it 😂
strange python
Yeah I dunno how true that is honestly, but i'll take your word for it
strange python
you do you i guess
oak tangle
ima be real though, if you need to look at a guide, then chances are you are not gonna be paying attention to mechanics in a key
bleak ivy
It just shows rotation u would see from sims
kind forge
If I speak I’ll be suspended for six months
lucid silo
ima be real though, if you need to look at a guide, then chances are you are not...
learning sin for the first time in keys yesterday
can confirm
after 2-3 keys things started to make sense
spice spire
Its a suggestion
And this is fair so take the following statement for the joke that it’s meant to be.
“If it were a suggestion it’d tell you to read a guide bozo.” 
bleak ivy
ima be real though, if you need to look at a guide, then chances are you are not...
Never had a problem been doing 20+ forever
oak tangle
i guess my question to you then, is why do you need a spell suggestion helper after getting to that level
bleak ivy
Sometimes I fuck up
strange python
I mean there's no one in the world that played an m+ the way a sim would - or the way dungeon slice would.
There are more or less - theories - or intricate setups that you follow - the rest is a lot of ad lib
oak tangle
Sometimes I fuck up
i mean i guess, i just don't see how it's difficult to know where to pick back up again if you miss a cast
there's no real order of casts for us, like other classes may have
hexed willow
Does anyone have any m+ logs I can check out/ask about? Just to get an idea of the actual execution of the aoe rotation
bleak ivy
there's no real order of casts for us, like other classes may have
Its my prefrence
oak tangle
Its my prefrence
yeah, i mean each to their own, i'm just curious
oak tangle
Does anyone have any m+ logs I can check out/ask about? Just to get an idea of t...
i'll find one someone put in earlier
strange python
If hekili works for you man, by all means, keep doing it - but I wouldn't promote it to anyone really (except in some really niche situation where they are hopping on a new class at max level and hitting a target dummy).
final laurel
If we can only use daggers why do I get stuff like axes from leveling
bleak ivy
Ive had 90+ parses in aberus using hekili so it cant be that bad
oak tangle
sorry comrade
lucid rain
If we can only use daggers why do I get stuff like axes from leveling
is your loot spec set to outlaw?
final laurel
Mm that might be the case, I haven’t touched it since character creation
bleak ivy
If hekili works for you man, by all means, keep doing it - but I wouldn't promot...
Yeah its great to practice and muscle memory
strange python
Ive had 90+ parses in aberus using hekili so it cant be that bad
Can you link those logs?
gaunt sigil
Hekili is nice to learn buttons from what I’ve heard
Like if you’re new to a class/spec
bleak ivy
Its fine rly but alot of people will hate on it😂
gaunt sigil
Personally I’d rather someone use Hekili than die a bunch or do dogshit damage
strange python
If you're staring at Hekili, you're gonna die lol
bleak ivy
U might die alot if u use hekili incorectly tbh
gaunt sigil
I mean same if you stare at your WA
hexed willow
Its fine rly but alot of people will hate on it😂
Cause you don’t learn how to play
You just push buttons
bleak ivy
Cause you don’t learn how to play
You do , you get the general idea and get muscle memory for it
gaunt sigil
I think Hekili is a good tool that teaches bad habits
hexed willow
I briefly used in classic to learn classic feral, and I just pushed things and didn’t know why. Muscle memory is great until something happens and you need to understand how to reset
Or why you do something
oak tangle
the closest thing i've ever had to hekli was when i made a static weak aura with the spells to cast in order for the arcane mage burst window. and i used that exclusively while learning
mint kindle
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
oak tangle
but there was no variation in that
prisma cypress
i just make things glow when i should press them
bleak ivy
I briefly used in classic to learn classic feral, and I just pushed things and d...
Because you used it incorectly then , you have to obviously pay some attention to it and not follow the order blindly you still should read and learn what your abilities do
prisma cypress
shiv glows when it ends while kingsbane is active, tea glows when there's 6 seconds left, vanish when 3 seconds left
etc
strange python
But what's the benefit to that over a properly laid-out weakaura system?
When I see out of the corner of my eye that button 4 is glowing blue - i know i need to cast rupture. Never took eyes off screen, etc.
oak tangle
that last point is a bit suss
bleak ivy
But what's the benefit to that over a properly laid-out weakaura system?
When I ...
Works the same way anyway lol
hexed willow
But what's the benefit to that over a properly laid-out weakaura system?
When I ...
You use a weakaura to make decisions, helkil makes decisions and you execute it.
Weakaura gives you information
It doesn’t tell you to do it
bleak ivy
Then its inferior
oak tangle
i'd argue hekli is inferior, cause no one has the reaction time to execute perfectly, and not executing perfectly to it's suggestions could be more harmful
bleak ivy
Whats the diffrence between an image appearing of what you should press and a glowing ability that you should press
strange python
I mean weakauras can range in functionality - some give information - some give more information than others - and some might as well be a full-on hekili system (with the added benefit that the spells are in their set locations and take less concentration to see).
spice spire
i'd argue hekli is inferior, cause no one has the reaction time to execute perfe...
Counterpoint I’m just built different
bleak ivy
Counterpoint I’m just built different
Valid point tho
hexed willow
Whats the diffrence between an image appearing of what you should press and a gl...
Hellkil doesn’t also have dynamic information. Like for example if you need an accelerated opener and you’re skipping rupture to fit your KB in a 20s window. Can helkil do that? Your WA just is giving you timers
strange python
Whats the diffrence between an image appearing of what you should press and a gl...
one you have to look at and decipher for at least a split second - the other becomes part of muscle memory (due to set location).
ember mural
Counterpoint I’m just built different
Built into retirement 
spice spire
Built into retirement <:dead:932888396316155934>
Bro?
ember mural
Missed you last night 👨❤️💋👨
bleak ivy
one you have to look at and decipher for at least a split second - the other bec...
You dont stare at hekili you have it on periferal
hexed willow
Like helkil sure can help you do a perfect rotation but a lot of classes are dynamic and involve judgement calls related to fights and mechanics
strange python
ok - well i'm moving on past hekili, not sure why you keep going on about it. If it's working for you, just use it.
bleak ivy
Hekili works better with some classes than others they have a list of which work the best
Assa is not the best true
indigo ginkgo
I am watching Kush currently and he keeps popping dance in the last 6 seconds of...
maybe because he thinks the % nightstalker gives plus the vanish on last 3s makes his KB go wild !
bleak ivy
But it works
dawn viper
You are coming across like the Hekili dev lol, if it works for you, use it. If not, don't try to justify it to other people. We all play our own way brother.
hexed willow
ok - well i'm moving on past hekili, not sure why you keep going on about it. I...
I just really dislike it, didn’t mean to make you feel targeted!
strange python
I think that dude actually hangs out in enhance discord, tbh
bleak ivy
You are coming across like the Hekili dev lol, if it works for you, use it. If n...
I'm not trynna justify it lol we just talking bout it use w/e you prefer
bleak ivy
I think that dude actually hangs out in enhance discord, tbh
Who?
oak tangle
if you follow hekli's gospel, you'll be at 3 cp and not realise your next generator will immediately allow you to use a finisher, and now you're sitting there waiting for hekli to tell you which button, when you'd already know that a fatty envenom is ready
strange python
the hekili dev
strange python
right - that's why i'm saying he hangs out there jeez
hexed willow
I’m just imaging helkil for outlaw
bleak ivy
Enhance is one of the best specs that work with hekili too lol
hexed willow
SPAM SPAM SPAM
bleak ivy
SPAM SPAM SPAM
Hekili or not shits spammy
spice spire
Missed you last night 👨❤️💋👨
Miss u[s]
gusty mirage
Enhance is one of the best specs that work with hekili too lol
Yeah those rotation helpers in general work better for some specs than others. But I also try not to shit on any of them, even if it’s not the best way to build a baseline it’s better than someone leveling a character and then hating it and quitting
spice spire
True
gusty mirage
Sometimes people forget that WoW is a video game and games are meant to be fun
lucid rain
joke's on you I play my character and hate myself
spice spire
But I’m a hater that can’t recommend it to new people 
lucid rain
thorn fjord
Enhance is one of the best specs that work with hekili too lol
Its REALLY good for UHDK
thorn fjord
feelsbad
strange python
wait so 8 guilds are at 1/9M and 1 guild is at 4/9M?
gusty mirage
When they were bursting to 400k and rogue got nerfed 800 times in 10.0 they didn’t feel bad for us
gusty mirage
wait so 8 guilds are at 1/9M and 1 guild is at 4/9M?
Split week is a fun week
dark token
Fuck that, don’t let them gaslight you into feeling bad for them
look at us, we are the UHDK now
bleak ivy
Its REALLY good for UHDK
Bro UHDK seemed so boring to Me idk why
gusty mirage
look at us, we are the UHDK now
Yeah but we’re cooler than they’ll ever be, wheelchair ass class
thorn fjord
It was fun S1
strange python
alright yeah i'm bored enough to go watch rwf i guess
gusty mirage
First like 3-4 days is keys and splits
bleak ivy
It was fun S1
Aint UHDK amazing in raids always pumping
gusty mirage
I hate how effective splits are for gearing ngl
strange python
i'm watching the rogue from Instant Dollars
dark token
dont count them out yet
strange python
who apparently isn't a rogue now
lucid rain
thisisfine.jpg
bleak ivy
Gore
gusty mirage
dont count them out yet
They’ll cry that they’re dogshit dw
Even if they perform well
They did it last tier lmfao
oak tangle
They’ll cry that they’re dogshit dw
I heard some bm tears before the patch too
bleak ivy
Did havocs get improved ST ?
gusty mirage
I heard some bm tears before the patch too
You too?
gusty mirage
Did havocs get improved ST ?
Yeah havoc is solid all around
slim hamlet
The BM hotfix being called a nerf is a meme
oak tangle
the onyl real tears in this game is ww
bleak ivy
Mfs BMs be crying and dealing top dps with minimal effort
slim hamlet
It's a nerf until you get 460ilvl weapon then its neutral and over that it's a buff
cerulean nest
real talk fyraak is very fun
slim hamlet
480*
gusty mirage
My fav is when BM hunters mess up positional mechanics and then try to say “I couldn’t get there in time”
spice spire
WW deserve the world
gusty mirage
Like ??????
gusty mirage
YOU MOVE AND DO DPS WDYM YOU COULDNT GET THERE
bleak ivy
💀
gusty mirage
Bro BM hunter mains are a different breed
bleak ivy
Man Raid banter in WoW is always amazing
oak tangle
our bm hunter, is preparing for our sunday raid, by playing literally every single alt but not their main
gusty mirage
oak tangle
we are aotc only so it really doesn't matter, but perspective
strange python
I played BM one tier - the one thing I noticed was - there was close to zero deviation across any pulls. Boss position - doesn't matter. Getting smacked with a mechanic - didn't seem to matter, etc etc.
It got old
junior furnace
does anyone remember the website, at which guild members can log their bis items
steel spire
remove bm, 3 bm hunters using stampede 
bleak ivy
Is bm even fun
spice spire
does anyone remember the website, at which guild members can log their bis items
Wowaudit
gusty mirage
Define fun
bleak ivy
Define fun
Not rogues
gusty mirage
Damn, real
spice spire
Damn, real
Alright Ret boy
static glacier
if you like never losing dps to mechanics or range ye
oak tangle
i mean realistically, sin on occasion isn't in a position to talk to bm playstyle wise
gusty mirage
Alright Ret boy
Bro I’d rather shove a pinecone up my dick than ever play Ret again
spice spire
Amen
strange python
Is bm even fun
I think it was fun for the world. I got hit with a slice of reality pie when i realized how tough leveling an alt was compared to the BM that just tanked/healed/dps'd his way through it all without a care in the world lol.
tepid burrow
!dagger
prisma monolithBOT
slim hamlet
^
gusty mirage
That’s the only perk of playing that shit spec lmao
rapid mirage
Where do i tune the dagger
wispy hazel
How does the shock build hold up against the hybrid one
ember mural
Who actually enjoys Ret
Guy 
bleak ivy
Ret for 40yr old breeders
slim hamlet
Where do i tune the dagger
Read the tooltip
strange python
Only way i kill a ret in pvp - is if they don't know what Kingsbane is about to bring
gusty mirage
Where do i tune the dagger
You use it on a corpse or something you kill
rapid mirage
Gotchya thanks!
slim hamlet
static glacier
I’m rolling with 10% ms
gusty mirage
Can I delete it
dawn kelp
so before 4pc its worth to let envenom fall if we need to pool over 50% energy?
lament aurora
wait so 8 guilds are at 1/9M and 1 guild is at 4/9M?
yeah everyone is doing splits
fun to see my shitty casual 2 day guild on the front page of wowprog tho 
bleak ivy
Whos the one not giving a fuck bout gear and just going 4/9 lol?
slim hamlet
Just Instant Dollars being gigachads
bleak ivy
do they stream or just a normal guild
gusty mirage
I reckon most will be at least 3 bosses deep
slim hamlet
Some of them stream
gusty mirage
By end of the week
slim hamlet
hopefulx for example
slim hamlet
I only cheer for Echo because they got the best production team by far
bleak ivy
they jam music
dark token
I only cheer for Echo because they got the best production team by far
they dont have grom tho
full depot
the only reason i root for liquid is because they look they they are having more fun than the other rwf guilds
slim hamlet
they dont have grom tho
Very true but Liquids main stream has been boring last few raids
Haven't even checked this time tbf
strange python
Anyone know why Iron Wire isn't silencing the casters around 3rd boss in everbloom? Is it intended like that or?
acoustic roost
JPC is reason enough to cheer for liquid XD
bleak ivy
Liquid for the laughs Echo for profesionalism
slim hamlet
It's close yea
slim hamlet
Liquid for the laughs Echo for profesionalism
Other way around
bleak ivy
Echo aint funny they barely talk
slim hamlet
Whenever raidbots tells you its time
oak tangle
Anyone know why Iron Wire isn't silencing the casters around 3rd boss in everblo...
stun doesn't work either so i'd say intended
slim hamlet
Echo aint funny they barely talk
Maybe on personal streams
static glacier
Whenever raidbots tells you its time
Raidbots is telling me to get the ever bloom trinket, it’s not going so well
strange python
I'm just glad that my wife finally learned how to keep the pantry stocked with an extra Ranch.
strange python
Raidbots is telling me to get the ever bloom trinket, it’s not going so well
Yeah i watched two people get it yesterday.
bleak ivy
W
slim hamlet
Raidbots is telling me to get the ever bloom trinket, it’s not going so well
Haven't even doen an everbloom
Done like 6 manors and 4 atal'dazar
No everbloom, no dawn
strange python
what you fishing for in manors?
bleak ivy
I did 1 everbloom and a vengece DH got branch
slim hamlet
nuffin
Just doing with guild
and we are cursed for manors, atals and 2nd part dawn apparently
strange python
I saw some tank got a trinket that had like 650 agi and 650 vers...i woulda pimped that for a while, but he needed it.
slim hamlet
Doggy dungeon in pugs for sure
bleak ivy
Which infinite is it where u gotta clear a path to the portals
why is it in the pool
its so ass
strange python
oh yeah i hate that room too
static glacier
Got 470 shoulders that I gave to a Dh guildie
slim hamlet
Absolute worst place of any dungeon for sin
gusty mirage
its so ass
Whoever tuned that dungeon is actually an asshole
bleak ivy
bro the dungeon is so dogshit
slim hamlet
Morchie is dogshit easy now at least
gusty mirage
The gauntlet sucks
bleak ivy
and on top of that u gotta run through some fucking field where u get sent back if u get hit
strange python
yeah i'm not a fan of either DOTI honestly
strange python
and on top of that u gotta run through some fucking field where u get sent back ...
oh yeah, i just pretend i'm trying til the portal opens
bleak ivy
oh yeah, i just pretend i'm trying til the portal opens
lmao
slim hamlet
knocking them off?
bleak ivy
oh yeah, i just pretend i'm trying til the portal opens
honestly everyone doing that someone has to try
proven jasper
Yeah thats the strat we did
gusty mirage
Those motherfucks
slim hamlet
strange python
honestly everyone doing that someone has to try
it's not gonna be me - or i'm gonna get lucky - the timer can expire for all i care.
gusty mirage
Ya
bleak ivy
ngl not happy with this m+ pool at all
strange python
I bet i could make that run actually, first try if i wasn't dodging everyone else's fucking balls too
gusty mirage
I died and just walked away
slim hamlet
tbh I am really happy with both raid and dungeons
gusty mirage
Came back and it was dead so ggs
thorny dagger
!wa
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slim hamlet
Only one I actively dislike is 2nd part dawn and council boss
proven jasper
Tbf i have been fine with every dungeon besides upper
strange python
I quite like everbloom (second boss can be sketchy - the one with the revitalize and bloom)
gusty mirage
Throne is such horseshit
indigo mulch
Throne of tides on 18+ is interesting.
oak tangle
poison boss in fall can also fk off
gusty mirage
You blast through 90% of the dungeon with like 25 minutes left
Then the gauntlet and last boss take 20
bleak ivy
I'm happy about the raidd but 50% of dungeons are terrible bruh Tide , the 2nd part of infinite ,everbloom is kinda mid , waycrest is managable
gusty mirage
Like oh okay
strange python
I liked m+ when it was all the current dungeons plus like 2 old ones.
The way it is now, is weird to me
bleak ivy
yeah now too many old ones
strange python
but i guess next xpac will be different? cause each xpac has what - 4 new zones, 1 new raid, 8 new dungeons?
and they come out once a year?
vast patio
Asking for a priest friend, when would be the ideal time to PI a sin rogue?
vast patio
We will have season 4 bro I think
yeah.
slim hamlet
Nah they said fall
thorny dagger
I saw whispyr running another build with serrated bone when he last streamed his raid, any idea whats the build actually ?
indigo mulch
pin
thorny dagger
oh thanks
bleak ivy
Nah they said fall
november is in fall
strange python
I saw whispyr running another build with serrated bone when he last streamed his...
use the import in there to wowhead import feature
agile osprey
vast patio
nothing for the pi question? I'm trying to help my friend out lol
bleak ivy
hopefully
strange python
lol - you thought it was winter cause we changed the clocks an hour - and now instead of getting dark at 9 it gets dark at 5
slim hamlet
Asking for a priest friend, when would be the ideal time to PI a sin rogue?
on DM
strange python
Death Mark
slim hamlet
deathmakrk
junior furnace
Why assassination is owning in raid while outlaw/sub are way far ahead in st sims?
strange python
OK, sweet. That was my first guess but I don't have daggers for sin yet.
You can still play it, you just can't use mutilate
strange python
Why assassination is owning in raid while outlaw/sub are way far ahead in st sim...
Good players swapped to what was new/exciting for the moment.
bleak ivy
deathmakrk
shi u right
slim hamlet
Why assassination is owning in raid while outlaw/sub are way far ahead in st sim...
I dont think they're behind in sims
bleak ivy
boots over dagger for craft?
slim hamlet
Safe option
royal lantern
boots imo
slim hamlet
U will need to craft boots some time, but dagger you would like to replace
royal lantern
icy acorn
assa benefits more from the dmg amps in raid also
slim hamlet
y
bleak ivy
My gear is so ass rn my daggers are 437
true imp
my sin sims like 13% behind my outlaw. rerunning now with more sin favored stats but still
proven jasper
Bruh I got PI on dungeons today
Bruh its insane
bitter crow
Bruh I got PI on dungeons today
I got PI in raid ./shrug
slim hamlet
it is indeed
proven jasper
i run with a disc normally anyway so its fucking awesome
bleak ivy
Where do yall look for guild I changed to tarren mill im lonely 😦
true imp
is sin still the PI target even in aoe?
slim hamlet
Maybe
strange python
lol the last dungeon, the monk was like "hey priest, pi the rogue"
The priest was like "nah i got the enhance"
Still beat the enhance by like 30-50%
slim hamlet
Bloodmallet PI sims on mutli target isn't with actual aoe build
I believe
So hard to know, but it wouldn't suprise me
proven jasper
Usually the bm hunter gets pi in aoe in my group bc im not sure how it is for us in aoe
icy acorn
btw in m+ assa "just" holds dots and spams kb right?
proven jasper
So i just let him take it
bleak ivy
lol the last dungeon, the monk was like "hey priest, pi the rogue"
The priest wa...
Enhance are supposedly insane
strange python
I mean anything that festers into that KB tick and you can actually make use of those final ticks - sin is gonna be nuts with pi.
aoe included
slim hamlet
Yes but dev and marksman hunter is also insane PI in aoe
And idk if there are real sims of it in aoe for us
strange python
did you do it with blindside?
slim hamlet
2 with 1 without
strange python
and...thoughts
bleak ivy
I prefer m+ over raiding ngl
strange python
yeah i'll probably never not run arterial build in m+ honestly (unless something drastically changes)
slim hamlet
I mean shiv dmg is heavily whatever even with talent
proven jasper
Ill probably play hybrid always just bc i like it
bleak ivy
yeah i'll probably never not run arterial build in m+ honestly (unless something...
Only good on like 1-12 keys the arterial build I think
strange python
But it all builds into that sudden demise
slim hamlet
Blindside felt much better (obviously) but in terms of actual dmg that matters I think it's better
idk
proven jasper
But yeah man it feels good to actually be able to play that build
strange python
Only good on like 1-12 keys the arterial build I think
not sure about that
proven jasper
i ran the ap build on a 17 and it was fine
bleak ivy
Some said thats the case so idk
slim hamlet
I didn't notice a huge difference in my ST tbf with and without arterial
royal lantern
!up
prisma monolithBOT
bleak ivy
So yall running arterial?
strange python
I mean that arterial build with blindside just feels so much better on bosses, that it's worth it to me.
bleak ivy
can you give me your import link wanna check it out
slim hamlet
It's just the one on wowhead
strange python
I think it's just the one in the wowhead guide now (or at the very least it's in the pins)
slim hamlet
dont got game open
bleak ivy
Oh alr
strange python
I just swap over to blindside though
slim hamlet
I think I will generally too
lofty junco
do u get upgradeable gear in emerald dream outside of WQ and story quests?
proven jasper
you can yes
strange python
oh whispyr updated the guide - it just has blindside now
maybe it always did and i'm stupid
slim hamlet
y
proven jasper
do u get upgradeable gear in emerald dream outside of WQ and story quests?
Superbloom can drop purples
strange python
no i swear it had tiny toxic blade
lofty junco
Superbloom can drop purples
thats it? can u get 421+ from super rares or something?
strange python
we need changelog/patch notes in the guides
proven jasper
thats it? can u get 421+ from super rares or something?
Yeah i think so
stable meteor
is macroing shadow dance and kingsbane together a good or bad idea? am i potentially missing the snapshot window doing this
shut owl
Generally a fine idea
strange python
is macroing shadow dance and kingsbane together a good or bad idea? am i potenti...
nah you're good except niche use cases in m+ where you'd want to dance without kingsbane.
shut owl
What niche case is that even?
strange python
if there's no target that would survive your KB
bold stream
using SD for iron wire is also a good use and youre not gonna get alot of value out of KB doing it
bleak ivy
Arterial shock kinda weird im too used to poison bomb dopamine
shut owl
I mean... At that point you're not firing KB raw before next sd so you might as well let it ride
Just don't reup caustic off of the KB target
strange python
Yeah i dunno - i calculated it all one night after many beers, and after careful examination concluded to just macro them together, personally. YMMV
bold stream
i still use KB in the SD window just not at the start, i use it at the end so i can get most uptime on hitting it
bleak ivy
yall Macro SD and KB?
subtle tundra
Plenty of top tier m+ players using it 😂
really? i'd like to know one
bold stream
ST is fine but theres some use cases for aoe where you dont want it
shut owl
I dragged my sd-gloomblade macro to my sin bars lol
strange python
The only thing that is really annoying me - is the bar-swapping ambush-cast-stopper animation/cancel thing that happens.
lean portal
I mean that arterial build with blindside just feels so much better on bosses, t...
you mean in mythic+ bosses ?
void mesa
The Dance-KB macro can run into GCD clipping issues, so just be aware
bleak ivy
really? i'd like to know one
go and check their lives out of the top 100 that stream rn you will find one for sure lol , I'm not saying it's good tho I just prefer it
strange python
you mean in mythic+ bosses ?
yes - it feels so much better having blindside.
I mean I even like blindside on trash - just like spare energy really
feels great
subtle tundra
go and check their lives out of the top 100 that stream rn you will find one for...
yea
so you dont know any
cool
strange python
I've only gone up to 12 myself but i dont see it stopping
opaque jacinth
!dagger
prisma monolithBOT
shut owl
Anecdotal strawman is the best type
lean portal
you cut sudden demise then ? talent feels kinda bad anyways imo
kind forge
but energy not an issue on aoe, right ?
rotund wagon
you cut sudden demise then ? talent feels kinda bad anyways imo
never
void mesa
Most streamers play with an addon showing what they cast. Which may look like Hekili but is the opposite
strange python
but energy not an issue on aoe, right ?
no not at all - but i was feeling mega energy starved on bosses sometimes with the hybrid build.
subtle tundra
chatting shit peaking m8 ok
youre the one spitting nonsense
shut owl
Also bear in mind, the pooling trainer looks like hekili and the details streamer mode look like hekili to folks who don't know
bleak ivy
So generally its not worth to macro SD+KB?
strange python
oh no sudden demise is f'in like steroid injection - don't cut that - just look at the wowhead guide - for arterial build
neat plank
does kingsbane work with caustic spatter?
shut owl
But hekili is kinda shit on sin last couple times I checked
lean portal
oh no sudden demise is f'in like steroid injection - don't cut that - just look ...
kk ill try it myself
bleak ivy
But hekili is kinda shit on sin last couple times I checked
Yeah on sin its pretty shitty
rotund wagon
ttb
next hornet
Hey, can some 1 help me, in m+ shen u pop all bleeds and u dont want to use cds, do u use finisher crimson or envenom, bouth are up lets say for full time and u dont have 4p new tier
kind forge
i just wonder what you cut
for what ?
lean portal
sudden demise in m+
steel spire
anyone got a dmg breakdown of internal over caustic
void mesa
Hey, can some 1 help me, in m+ shen u pop all bleeds and u dont want to use cds,...
CT is only a dot, no instant dmg. If its already up dont use it again
steel spire
like % wise overall for m+
strange python
Hey, can some 1 help me, in m+ shen u pop all bleeds and u dont want to use cds,...
if CT isn't up on the aoe, you get it up.
lean portal
sudden demise in m+
i mean arterial sry
next hornet
So just spam envenom to fish for bomb proc?
strange python
anyone got a dmg breakdown of internal over caustic
Well one of the issues with this comparison is that - as we gear and get 4p - we're generally going to be playing spatter - from what I gather.
shut owl
Spatter is juicy on the backend of s2 tier tbh
void mesa
So just spam envenom to fish for bomb proc?
You wont be spamming for long before its back to ruptures but yes
steel spire
unlucky i am 4p s2 with no raid time this season f
strange python
unlucky i am 4p s2 with no raid time this season f
I mean LFR first wing is out and has a tier boss
next hornet
You wont be spamming for long before its back to ruptures but yes
Ty alot
timber meadow
sure this has been asked but ive been headsdown in game lol - is there a reason sanguine blades + poisoned edges go absolutely dumb on last boss of everbloom?
strange python
sure this has been asked but ive been headsdown in game lol - is there a reason ...
we dont talk about that here
timber meadow
roger that lol got it
low quartz
sure this has been asked but ive been headsdown in game lol - is there a reason ...
shhhhhhh
shut owl
Can't wait to finally get into a bloom key sometime lol
I've been stuck in dht/doti(the one without gear)
proven jasper
Idk i did like 1.4 million dps on that boss
LOL
I did see sanguine cranking for no reason
Everything is fine though promise
proven jasper
Well that boss takes a bunch of increased damage anyway
But there is def something else happening
strange python
Yea but certain effects in this game work very odd sometimes with increased damage taken effects
they gonna bug fix it for one irrelevant encounter and break us - you watch
proven jasper
Yea but certain effects in this game work very odd sometimes with increased dama...
Yeah definitely
strange python
Because if its a spell that has its dmg based on the dmg of another spell, it can double dip by accident
it probably just increases the initial dmg - and then the actual dmg too so
royal lantern
how was weekly vault and upgrading again, you need a 20 vault too upgrade gear too max ilvl? or was 18-19 enough for that?
strange python
Shadow Blades f.ex double dipped on sludgefist
Currently on ozumat timestrike double dips
proven jasper
dang wish i had timestrike
vast patio
Is there any benefit to dual wielding nick of time?
proven jasper
Yes
strange python
Ye its your best choice
vast patio
oh, sweet.
proven jasper
damage
vast patio
Thank ye kindly
oak tangle
afaik the damage from timestrike is purely tied to the amount of timestrike you have
proven jasper
Yeah works like sophic I beleive
arctic hare
Isn’t timestrike literally just windfury?
royal lantern
eh, it copies a part of the dmg that proced it
but like
doesnt matter
its a dmg proc
oak tangle
you have 10% chance on performing an action to roll timestrike damage
royal lantern
the end
arctic hare
Ahh, hmm
halcyon hill
Does ShadowDance also gives us the crit from being in stealth?
arctic hare
So it can copy all abilities, not just melee, thats awesome tho
royal lantern
like, could just be "have a chance too do X dmg when you use a ability" and nothing would change
arctic hare
Does ShadowDance also gives us the crit from being in stealth?
Yes
royal lantern
its just a fancy version of it
jovial verge
If your garrote is falling off around the same time as your DM/KB are coming up is it better to just let it drop for a moment to go ahead and send your cd's or re-apply the garrote, wait for it to come off cd, and then go into CD's?
arctic hare
Called timestrike,
neat plank
can someone who's confident in their rotation gimme a screenshot of their overall dmg breakdown in a m+? 🙂
lucid rain
how was weekly vault and upgrading again, you need a 20 vault too upgrade gear t...
18 gives myth track vault
royal lantern
18 gives myth track vault
oh cool
so i dont even need too do 20 keys
except that it costs less upgrade stuff
lofty junco
https://i.imgur.com/LBgfDAq.png thats like the old catalyst. one stack each week?
proven jasper
Every other week i think
wraith cosmos
Every other
lofty junco
can i get to zaralek cavern without doing the quest?
prisma cypress
dont you just fly into the hole
strange python
I think I just flew there, personally
i mean if i did do a quest, it was on accident
I just went for the dragonriding glyphs
bleak ivy
I have Spatter up on every pull put it still only racks up to 6-8th place on my biggest dmg dealing ability
strange python
you following your hekili?
bleak ivy
no lol I dont need it to keep up Spatter
strange python
oh lol
rose dirge
I got a question, do you refresh improved garrote in the vanish window last 3 seconds of kingsbane?
static glacier
I got a question, do you refresh improved garrote in the vanish window last 3 se...
you can#
strange python
I got a question, do you refresh improved garrote in the vanish window last 3 se...
I do - only cause whispyr's weakaura flashes at me, and it's habit