assassination

[void mesa]

so overall like, 0.02%

[cunning basin]

New pots and feint did not stop me from dying

[slow chasm]

still

new pots are great

[cunning basin]

Oh yeah 4sure

[balmy condor]

Oh you’re not kidding

That’s not how doomblade works

[void mesa]

oh

[haughty flicker]

Lol

[balmy condor]

It’s a rolling dot

Like ignite

[cunning basin]

Yeah doesn't it have the ignite thing

Yeah

[void mesa]

im just starting a cold in class atm

oh its rolling and stacking?

[subtle tundra]

kinda hate how rng we can be

[void mesa]

I assumed it was just a bleed on mut cuz I never wanted to learn more about DB

[subtle tundra]

pressing same opener, way different dmg

[slow chasm]

part of me misses ignite build

[cunning basin]

Means you replace your whole rotation with just mutilate

[haughty flicker]

So we should be spreading doomblade in aoe right

[split jewel]

just got branch; simming 8k higher in ST

[cunning basin]

Just never don't crit KB EZ

[final laurel]

is the faq up to date

with talent trees

[balmy condor]

It’s not even rng we just suck at stacking and I died

[cunning basin]

My heroic parses are LIT

100 parse

97+3 EZ

[slate crown]

Ngl on my smolderon normal kill I literally couldn’t see that the tank mechanic was happening so I couldn’t soak, was on other side of boss. Then I got circles for second soak, so couldn’t soak. No orbs for me. Wanted to just run into the center and die

[lucid rain]

I just got literally every single silence circle during the shadow of xavius fight

[cunning basin]

Same thing happened to me

[sullen hollow]

i sent everything whenever i got it and made sure to use a 2.5k at renown 9 and closest to 10

and got ez renown 20 bout 6 hrs back

[slate crown]

Oh yeah my calculations were correct was ez

[sullen hollow]

yea

[faint spoke]

guild gave me the onmitoken from normal, should I go for 2 pc or wait till next week for 4 pc?

[median flicker]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842817103354658817/1154475731108249700/image.png

[sullen hollow]

all my guildies are like omg we wait till tomorrow we wont make it

[main blaze]

From that trend you clearly are going to get a 191 on Volcross

[cunning basin]

True and factual

[cunning basin]

Get 2pc

[main blaze]

Well I'd wait for your vault

then grab it

[sullen hollow]

^

this

100%

[cunning basin]

No faith

[main blaze]

only faith in great lord vault

He who has seen all and knows all. He giveth a token and taketh a tier.

[subtle tundra]

i was talking about my dps when we wiped, sometimes hit big sometimes hit sadge

i wonder how correct my rotation is since my research has been minimal

[thorny aurora]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842817103354658817/1154475731108249700/image.png

[main blaze]

Clearly tauren + giant is the right answer

[slim pebble]

Which one does nick of time drop in?

[main blaze]

Galakrond

[balmy condor]

The galakussy

[static glacier]

feels so wierd

to have sin do better for me in keys above sub

wierdest timeline

[hexed willow]

You’re massive

Trust me it’s fun

[slim pebble]

Awh thanks man you are too

[soft shale]

sub also has one of those cool gamebreaking bugs

making us be legion mm hunters

just in case you wanted to play it for some reason

[slate crown]

Oh I saw the pin, the one where 2pc procs on BP turbo pulls?

[slim hamlet]

Council

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-happy-laughing-crying-i-cant-even-gif-24163733

Wait actually tho

Would u

[balmy condor]

It’s a rolling dot

[slim hamlet]

Is it closer to 0.1 or 0.0

[balmy condor]

It’s 0.0

[slim hamlet]

oh wait

its longer than envenom

[balmy condor]

What

It’s a rolling dot

Nothing here matters

[subtle tundra]

look up ignite

[hexed willow]

You matter

[balmy condor]

I wish

[hexed willow]

If we took a vote, you nattering would come out on top

[slow needle]

https://tenor.com/view/genie-aladdin-freedom-robin-williams-im-free-gif-5682413835221124681

[candid eagle]

macro question.

I made a macro to link Dance and Kingsbane together, but it doesn't seem to cast both consistently. I know I'm missing something, but it's been a while since I've made any macros.

[slow needle]

Dance is off-gcd

So if you press it during a gcd.

You dance without Kingsbane.

Because it'll cast Shadow Dance then fail to cast the KB.

[candid eagle]

Okay, so is there any way I can make it idiot (me) proof?

[static glacier]

dont press it till you're off gcd

[slow needle]

I think there may be some syntax in macros where if a line fails you stop the macro.

And then swap the lines round.

So if KB fails the macro stops. But I can't remember that syntax or I'm just hallucinating it.

[gusty mirage]

@balmy condor surely I get a branch

SURELY

[balmy condor]

[gusty mirage]

I've seen the spirit boots 3 times

wrong gif

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-happy-laughing-crying-i-cant-even-gif-24163733

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/im-dead-dead-bruh-skeleton-dead-bruh-skeleton-dead-im-dead-bruh-gif-26854866

[tropic tundra]

[gusty mirage]

look how gross this is

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

LOOK AT IT

[worldly wyvern]

anyone know why when I tab to a target its making me auto attack as soon as Im in range breaking my stealth

[gusty mirage]

LOOOK AT IT

[spice spire]

No

[worldly wyvern]

i am on a training dummy

[tropic tundra]

IS THAT…

[balmy condor]

I mean that’s good

[hexed willow]

I’m not jealous

[wild beacon]

why does the best trinket have to be an orb collector

[gusty mirage]

you shut your whore mouth too

[grand trail]

not bad

first key as assa

[shy pecan]

It’s made of gold, just like you

[slow needle]

You should see a doctor about that.

That looks painful.

[feral mason]

oxi ive seen 3 branches drop already man

[gusty mirage]

seli got nick of time in his first galakrond's

I'mma gangplank Q myself irl

[feral mason]

i am going to strangle him (lovingly)

[bronze marsh]

I've got egg and counterweight so far

[slow needle]

I recommend W-ing yourself Oxi.

Tasty and nutritious.

[shy pecan]

Tf oxi with a LOL reference?

[gusty mirage]

is the Q still pistol shot

[feral mason]

i recommend e-ing yourself

[slow needle]

It is.

[feral mason]

then you become luffy

[rain mortar]

i might be doing something wrong because I seem to have a LOT more spatter dam than most.

[feral mason]

[wild beacon]

just spattering all over the place

[whole herald]

holy shit assa ST damage is nuts

[bronze marsh]

blades has been trucking for me

[grand trail]

depends on key

this was lower one

[tropic tundra]

Arterial build?

[rain mortar]

that was not arterial

[bronze marsh]

I've only been in 11-13's so far

[rain mortar]

that was the "hybrid" build on a 17

[runic hinge]

Spatter does more the longer stuff lives with kb

[rain mortar]

blackrook

i see

[tropic tundra]

Ah i was asking sappuchino

[runic hinge]

Sometimes I press kb and stuff just dies so I don’t get much value outta it

I need to do higher keys

[dark token]

I uploaded a bunch of 17-19s as assa today

Did like 25 keys lol

It actually pumps

Bm is beating me usually but not by much

[void mesa]

How is the Mydas trinket doing? I remember seeing it being highly viewed on Outlaw guide and very poorly for Assassination and im semi confused

[gusty mirage]

bro whoever tuned upper dawn

is actually an asshole

[strange python]

I always say one of these xpacs i'm just gonna main BM so i can play and not think

[void mesa]

Isnt it just a big ol flat dmg disguised behind "hit 5 times"?

[strange python]

i did that once and got bored though

[gusty mirage]

yes

INSANE VALUE

WOWOWOWOWOW

if its bis for outlaw, mark my words

actual clown spec

[void mesa]

Huhhhhh

[gusty mirage]

does it flurry

it has to be that

[void mesa]

OH

[gusty mirage]

there's no fucking shot bro

[void mesa]

That might be that

[gusty mirage]

this thing is as mid as my outlook on life

[void mesa]

That would actually make it decent in aoe

[feral mason]

I played outlaw all day today (with study/dog breaks) from like 6am to 9

[feral mason]

no

[gusty mirage]

speed running boomer wrists???

[feral mason]

my wrist is turbo fucked now for some reason

[gusty mirage]

you okay bro?

[feral mason]

Unironically

ive been in bed last hour

shit fucking hurts

[gusty mirage]

feel better ❤️

[void mesa]

Damn

I played outlaw yesterday for 8 keys and im fine? Am I too young for assassination now??

[gusty mirage]

yes

[strange python]

Maybe you got some basal cells replicating near a nerve

[slate crown]

Which build are you mostly using?

[dark token]

Blindside AP every dungeon

[gusty mirage]

@balmy condor if I lose myself tonight, you can be by my side

[dark token]

It's better single target than the DTB build and more overall DPS also

[feral mason]

i am too stupid to know what this means but im sure its helpful

[balmy condor]

Amen

[slate crown]

Interesting, that's the one in the pins right, shock BS?

[keen spruce]

so lucky took me 3 whole tries

[gusty mirage]

gangplank q yourself in game

[dark token]

Yeah I didn't look at the talent build but I believe so

[slate crown]

Do you play any differently or still just spread bleeds focus prio KB?

[strange python]

How you guys doing on bosses in m+ - I feel like we can pump pretty hard.

[feral mason]

literally shoot the blue portal on the side of the empire state building and the orange portal directly under your feet

[slate crown]

May try it out tonight

[dark token]

It's the same it's just more single target and more energy due to blindside procs

[strange python]

COurse, the longer the fight lasts, the worse it gets

[slate crown]

I've only been doing the Hybrid one

[dark token]

I need to get better about CD usage and funneling off the big mobs, didn't play perfect by any means but It was avg like 180k-220k depending on key

[balmy condor]

I tried hybrid, shock, shock with bs like soviets talking about

They’re kinda just

All the same lowkey

[dark token]

Yah

[gusty mirage]

personal preference type vibe

[balmy condor]

But people probably just play shock bs

Because blindside “feels better”

[dark token]

It feels good

Yeah

And feelycraft is the best

[strange python]

Yeah Blindside would probably be a godsend in the hybrid build....cause once the boss is at like 40% health, that's when we really slow down

[balmy condor]

I probably update the shock build on wowhead to just take blindside

[drifting cedar]

PI on DM, right?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[dark token]

Unless u got the spriest PI

[slim hamlet]

Better than no PI

[gusty mirage]

imagine playing a shadow priest in your group

yikes

[dark token]

True

[gusty mirage]

next you're gonna bring a ww monk

[dark token]

Our spriest (really good player, ex pieces) was doing almost tank dmg

In most keys

[gusty mirage]

yeah they fucked spriest

[dark token]

They fucking murdered that class

[gusty mirage]

wild

[spare flame]

is there a list of useful macro's somewhere

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[static glacier]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842817103354658817/1154475731108249700/image.png

[lucid rain]

reminds me of exsang back in legion

was crazy good then sent to the shadow realm

[visual lake]

When is the best time to send Ashes trinket? Still waiting till 9 seconds or whatever on KB? Or just send with death mark?

I think they changed trinket from what it was on PTR

[worthy iris]

do you macro kingsbane with shadowdance?

[gusty mirage]

in raid yes

in m+, no

well I guess you can in m+ if you want to make life easier

[clever sapphire]

i still gotta get it into my head that shadowdance/vanish is not only used for kb

in keys atleast

[hexed willow]

Does pooling only occur outside of CDs in ST or do you also do it in aoe?

[mighty gust]

U send dance without kb in keys?

[runic hinge]

You don’t need to pool in aoe

[rose harness]

Aoe you don’t really need to pool

[runic hinge]

Your bleeds will flood you with energy

[gusty mirage]

@dark token laugh at your BM hunters now

[rose harness]

So much energy from bleeds

[gusty mirage]

[rose harness]

What tony said lol

[gusty mirage]

everyone point and laugh at the hunters

[real stirrup]

Sub player: where can I find the rotation for aoe and ST please

[gusty mirage]

!guides

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[gusty mirage]

wowhead guide

[junior olive]

Hey is there any Macros to help with the Shiv / shadowdance kingsbane part of the opener?

maybe Shiv and Shadowdance right after

[gusty mirage]

you can macro dance and kingsbane together in raid

[junior olive]

ima need that..ty

[royal lantern]

delete aug

[gusty mirage]

just make sure you wait until the GCD is over before pressing it

otherwise you'll dance w/o KB

[hexed willow]

Thanks Tony and jelly!

[runic hinge]

I’ve been sending dance macroed to kb and it’s been fine

[tropic hearth]

is assa drastically different now then it was?

[junior olive]

can someone send me that macro plz

[clever sapphire]

gonna laugh when the priests still PI our bm hunter over me

[gusty mirage]

#showtooltip
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Kingsbane

[hexed willow]

Wouldn’t you want it to be #showtooltip Kingsbane

[gusty mirage]

[clever sapphire]

does it matter tho

[gusty mirage]

personal preference

[hexed willow]

Fair I’d just have a separate SD keybind if for some reason I needed to use it outside of KB

[gusty mirage]

we're twinning

dw

[junior olive]

ty bro

[austere fulcrum]

isnt it insane dmg for st with new trinket ??

[thorny aurora]

Does anyone have a PI macro or weakauras to request it when pressing cds

[restive falcon]

does anyone got a witherbark WA

[sturdy mesa]

Where do i find mechanical mobs to use my dagger on

[royal lantern]

just do a dm macro with /use 13 or /use 14, whatever slot you put it on lol

[restive falcon]

i meant for like the kiting or does it really matter?

[royal lantern]

like that

[devout prism]

mechagon maybe

[sturdy mesa]

thought it had to be dragonflight related

[restive falcon]

yea i just meant a WA that tracks the buffs and how many orbs remain so we can mid-max the buff

[worthy iris]

is 2set 2 set worth running over aberus 4 set?

[thorn fox]

https://wago.io/q7bHLuILp

[thorny aurora]

Sim it

[runic hinge]

Try tyrhold

[prisma cypress]

it probably is worth it

[restive falcon]

i gained 6k dps going from 4pc to 2-2

[prisma cypress]

is it possible to macro a potion with deathmark, and if so, how does it decide which version to use?

[gusty mirage]

yes

[plucky canopy]

the "new" build does sim 6k better for me 😮

big gains

[lament aurora]

mfw I can drop my old 4 piece for literally just ilvl

[sturdy mesa]

smart boi, found em ❤️

[solemn mason]

nightly or latest for sims?

[grand trail]

bm nerf huge

im not sure if im more happy about embershouil trinket or bm nerf

[runic hinge]

I just play a lot you’re welcome

[austere fulcrum]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842817103354658817/1154475731108249700/image.png

[strange python]

jesus

[tropic tundra]

Thats more like a bugfix

[spice spire]

Ur a hater

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

🤝

[austere fulcrum]

do u guys know how long the buff stays on your from the dagger ?

[real stirrup]

So there's two single target builds one with dance and one no dance?

[hardy dagger]

eh it's literally a buff for them

they where beyond bugged

[tropic tundra]

Non-dance is more like a starter build

[hardy dagger]

so in a sense they are getting buffed compared to their supposed sims

[naive sierra]

Instant or deadly poison for caustic? sry if this is asked 9 billion times

[real stirrup]

So I guess I go with the starter build? Do they both sim the same?

[tropic tundra]

Your own sim would tell you the fitting answer

[strange python]

How are we looking with emblishments any data on it or we pretty safe with Toxic Thorn ?

[grand trail]

its kinda weird that embersould is like 2,5% behind branch

hm

though its closer after buff

[tropic tundra]

Raid trinket

[thick schooner]

What do I even do with this

[eternal nymph]

Be happy that you got a farmable one as BiS

Always nice

[thick schooner]

would I use these and just use one every 1min cycle?

[dreamy elk]

Which raid encounters should I run caustic spatter instead of internal bleeding?

[gusty mirage]

you farm a passive trinket

[tropic tundra]

Give one for me

[rigid tartan]

is it viable to use wound poison in these sanguine heavy dungeons like waycrest?

[past bobcat]

What build are we running with 2pc 2pc?

[rigid tartan]

without dtb

or would the dmg loss be too great in m+ build?

[storm forum]

Lose way too much damage iirc

[twin kite]

Anyone got a nice kingsbane weakaura that lights up at 6 and 3 sec like the one Jpc is playing with?

[arctic tusk]

after IC runs out should be you spending CP on ruptures?

or just splash dmg with caustic

in mplus

[slate crown]

Yah, sec

[glacial grotto]

How do you play the hybrid m+ build without feeling like a goober on bosses

[slate crown]

https://wago.io/8WWlvpYa9 - Timer Bar
https://wago.io/t-Ebe62VL - Icon
Can use either or both, I use both, icon in my pack icon set for cd tracking, and timer bar in my headsup bar section

[slate crown]

Icon doesn't glow at 6 for tea, the timer bar has a tick at 6 sec though for tea

[pearl basin]

is there a major difference between toxic thorn boots and the slimy ones?

[twin kite]

thanks!

[tropic tundra]

Slimy is a haste debuff while throns is hp debuff

[pearl basin]

ok cool, reads similar outside of that so just wanted to check

[tropic tundra]

They also get doubled by toxic

So its a lot of -haste

[random atlas]

why is assas performing better on logs when it sims worse?

[storm forum]

Cause we're built different

[gusty mirage]

no

[arctic current]

Thought i was doing well but got completely dumpstered by a hunter last night.. knew something was up lol

[gusty mirage]

because sims don't automatically include PI

[storm forum]

(All the fotm rerollers go play things that sim better but are still learning the spec so they play worse.)

[grand trail]

i got suprised how assa is strong in keys

wasnt that strong in ptr

[thorny onyx]

what set pieces are we aiming for? everything but legs?

[random atlas]

ok ty

[earnest remnant]

love throne of tides

[grand trail]

who will play sub if not stealthi

thats alarming

[storm forum]

Stealthi being forced to play sin by liquid

[gray crest]

"a second sub main has rerolled sin"

[earnest remnant]

more dmg for less effort = best for m+ spam

[stiff kernel]

Long live assassination!

[static glacier]

ngl is sub really okay atm

the feel of shuriken tornado is so wack

[grand trail]

i way playin outlaw in keys whole day

[static glacier]

with no seal fate

[grand trail]

i was doing very well

but my head hurt its so much effort

[haughty flicker]

only champion but still huge upgrade

[grand trail]

than i did one assa key and so much chill

[haughty flicker]

got it way faster than i expected

[static glacier]

the key had like 4-5 things it can drop us

[eternal heath]

I cri

[hexed willow]

huge grats!

[eternal heath]

ayy nice

[thorny onyx]

what set pieces are we aiming for? everything but legs?

[severe sparrow]

im having issues with my first garrote out of stealth not doing the using from stealth things a bunch and idk why

[idle totem]

keybind bomb into garrote?

[severe sparrow]

nah i took that off and then just took off bomb tbh

[wet agate]

And still came up empty

[grand trail]

because i dont have current fixed sims of assa tier set, all set pieces went to two warriors

[severe sparrow]

running ashes and sandglass now and i dont think either should interact

works fine on dummies just not reliably in keys so maybe im getting hit by something a second before or idk

[earnest remnant]

4set as soon as i hit 2k score tmrw, just need an item from m+ to catalyst it

[grand trail]

nice

[dusk summit]

Was reading over stuff on wow head and we use insta poison over deadly when DTB is not used?

[grand trail]

i have catalyst head with leech ready to cata

[arctic shale]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[grand trail]

and than i got rest of tier pices next week

next in line

[tacit lintel]

Hello guys. Im gm/rl and i had to reroll rogue for raid buff. Is Assa easier than Outlaw?

[grand trail]

already have nice off tier crti mastery legs

[thorny onyx]

I have set head, I also am able to buy another set piece from token but idk what piece to choose, what would you suggest?

[grand trail]

chest is biggest impact i think

[wet agate]

Maybe on the fingers

[haughty flicker]

raidleading as any rogue spec sounds like ass tbh

[tacit lintel]

Ye i know

[spark cloud]

anyone rocking the timestrike stat stuff? how is it?

[wet agate]

Nah but for real its all subjective, what might be hard for one person could be easy for another. Give both a try and see how you go.

[haughty flicker]

sin is pretty calm outside of cds so if i had to pick a spec to rl as it would probably be it

but gotta see what you're most comfortable with

[devout prism]

assassination is great for raid leading

[wet agate]

I would say it's less reactive so yeah probably better for rl

[tacit lintel]

Losing so many gcd as outlaw

Maybe assa is a lil bit "quiet"

[storm forum]

Sin is pretty scripted so if you can muscle memory the CD windows, it would probably be the easiest to raid lead as

[split jewel]

2.3m sudden demise on battlefield in murozond lol

[storm forum]

Also it's often correct to pool/lose globals outside of our CDs so you can take a few seconds to focus on calling out mechanics if it lines up favorably

[onyx sandal]

What paracausal trinket is good? I have a token

[wet agate]

Probably best to sim them

[tacit lintel]

Thank you very much for answers

[vale mortar]

Guys, how to properly sim for m+? Should i increase the number of targets?

[junior aurora]

dungeon slice

[unkempt tangle]

What's wrong with SP PI? Just the timing which is bad because we need to maintenance before DM?

[storm forum]

Standard SP PI is slightly worse because of that yeah, so it probably wont last all of DM/KB. However if the SP is playing VE for some reason, it will line up much better.

[spark scaffold]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[spark scaffold]

!whispyr

[whole herald]

have you guys seen the liquid rogues damage

[static glacier]

nope

unless you mean stealthi

[whole herald]

raiizr and another lol

pulling some insane numbers

[storm forum]

I was in a normal with jpc yesterday, he was pumping

I don't remember the numbers off the top of my head though sorry

[whole herald]

wait im just seeing that we have to do dragon riding during the second last boss

what the hell 💀

[cerulean nest]

on a ST fight do you just use up all the SBS like right away?

[flint tusk]

been under a rock much? xD

[green apex]

I am up 3 pairs of gloves today from m+. 🙏 Please my hands are so warm rngsus

[storm forum]

Second to last boss is actually a lot of fun

[whole herald]

not dedicating my whole day to wow sorry bud

[flint tusk]

but yet you're on a rogue discord

good one

[storm forum]

We all took 2 weeks off of work to watch rtwf

[devout prism]

2 weeks off just to watch??? that's more than the actual raiders in the race get

[wet agate]

You have to include replays

[warm shard]

do we still want to use branch when we use deathmark?

[whole herald]

that makes no sense

[lucid rain]

what embellishment(s) would you guys recommend for m+?

[whole herald]

yeah it gives the most damage and lines up

[devout prism]

Toxic Thorn Footwraps and a toxic armor patch

[warm shard]

should we stretch it out as long as possible or grab 2 orbs and delay the third?

[devout prism]

2 orbs and delay third, but also it's not that huge of a difference

[sharp falcon]

cheater, nerfed, banned, definitely your fault and not mine

[whole herald]

pull it with Deathmark and then delay the third if possible but thats a lot for a marginal damage gain

[devout prism]

thanks for the rework I'm having a lot of fun on all specs

[earnest remnant]

just a sneaky little ozumat fight

[lucid rain]

thisisfine.jpg

[loud light]

sudden demise, champion of the meters

[flint tusk]

Surprised you managed to get sudden demise to proc in time Stealthi

[chrome mirage]

Wasn't there a clever macro for mutilate/ambush on the same key

To make it not jank

[somber hill]

Does sophic devotion gain more value for sin in aoe or is wafting always bis?

[wet agate]

Put mutilate where ambush is on the stealth bar

bind w.e key to it

[chrome mirage]

[lucid rain]

I probably could've played this key better but this was pretty fun

262k overall, 17 everbloom

[storm forum]

That's how I'm doing it too, but I think some people were being cute with stance conditionals

Which is basically the same thing

[junior aurora]

what key level

[lucid rain]

oops, thought I wrote it

17

[flint tusk]

that conditional still doesn't solve the issue though.

you can still get locked out of casting something

just as sub fades

[storm forum]

Oh yeah

I might put mut where blindside ambush used to be

As a work around

But idk

Kinda wanted to put my health stones back there

[flint tusk]

Yeh i'm not exactly sure why it does this

like how can it start casting an ability but then just stop and not cast anything

it's pretty awkward when it happens

[runic hinge]

Yeah. The stuttering is bugging me a bit

[maiden sierra]

so whats up with our trinkets? wowhead guide saying completely different things from bloodmallet lol

[wet agate]

Seems to work fine for me but maybe I'm not noticing it cause I'm too busy mashing my keys

[runic hinge]

Yeah. If you mash fast enough it’s fine

[storm forum]

Bloodmallet isn't doing trinket combinations, double on use stat trinkets loses value for us cause they can't be overlapped for our CDs

[devout prism]

what build are you running?

[lucid rain]

a very scuffed one lol

[storm forum]

Also double on use kind of sucks

[upper spear]

Does Lethality in the Rogue tree effect Garrote ticks?

[storm forum]

No spatter o.o

[storm forum]

It should

[devout prism]

wow that is scuffed what

[storm forum]

It affects KB

[devout prism]

but the results speak for themselves!

[flint tusk]

even then it doesn't trigger correctly.
it's like the GCD becomes 1.5 seconds coming out of sub
https://i.imgur.com/XZ4XbFR.png

[upper spear]

saw someone rolling this and was wondering if Lethality was worth dropping for M+

[runic hinge]

Yeah. It’s annoying for sure

Not sure how I fix

[dusk summit]

im trying to sim deadly poison vs instant but its always showing deadly. Is that cause its just better?

[quasi solar]

guys what we gonna craft for pure st raiding

[whole herald]

deadly is better

[storm forum]

Deadly has the same instant damage as instant poison, but also has a DoT attached to it so it will always be better

[dusk summit]

this had me confused:

[arctic tusk]

why does my stealth keep breaking

randomly

[lethal widget]

Meaning that you deadly and instant if you don’t have amp

Not saying that you would instant over deadly

[dusk summit]

OH gotcha

[storm forum]

Dragon tempered blades allows us to use 2 poisons. You always have access to deadly and instant, so if you don't talent into amplifying, you would use deadly and instant

[strange python]

that arterial build - with blindside - feels good

[jovial verge]

Yeah this was really bothering me as well

[storm forum]

I do like ttb, but maybe I'm a blindside player now

[strange python]

I haven't tried internal bleeding over caustic - i actually quite enjoy the spatter, tbh

[lucid rain]

ap blindside has really good button flow

[earnest timber]

hi is the wowhead guide caught up for the updated rotation?

[cerulean nest]

what second of KB do I press ashes on

?

[elfin forge]

What % of your damage does internal bleeding end up with overall?

[wet agate]

Yes

Whispyr also has a video on YT if you want a little more depth

[lucid rain]

the everbloom 17 I just did was 5% internal bleeding

[junior aurora]

not running caustic spatter?

[thorn fox]

The 4pce bonus is gonna encourage more envenoms, caustic will be preferred

[grave dove]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[junior aurora]

i feel like running IB over caustic is kinda troll in keys

[lethal widget]

I swear spatter only good if the target lives the full kingsbane

[lucid rain]

I was having a hard time making best use of kb + caustic because of having to swap targets to cc/kick

skill issue on my part probably

[elfin forge]

Focus kick comes in handy with that

[storm forum]

God I love focus kick so much

[elfin forge]

I'm personally playing as if I had 4p already to practice envenom style spatter now.

[storm forum]

Best thing to come out of that stint I had doing pvp

[dark token]

We're next

[lethal widget]

Ye, spatter after 4p feels mandantory

[strange python]

I think the 4p should just automatically spatter.

[lethal widget]

Man if you think sin gets nerfed before demo lock and havoc you’re crazy lol

[strange python]

Envenom should just spatter.

Everything should just basically spatter.

[hexed willow]

Did some lfr to practice, ahhh it’s so much fun

[dark token]

Demo??

[flint tusk]

BM was genuinely bugged in a really broken way

[lethal widget]

Demo doing 2mill dps some pulls right now

[dark token]

I knew it wasn't Aug dmg

[trail lynx]

Do you ever use Crimson Tempest in ST m+?

[strange python]

demo has like zero buildup too

[dark token]

And it was just them being broken

[flint tusk]

they made their pets get amped by weapon damage without compensating for ilvl changes

[strange python]

just straight 0-100 blasting

[dark token]

The rankings were nuts

[strange python]

oh i'm last on the meters for this pull. JK Sudden Demise Bitches

[lethal widget]

Demo lock in a 18 waycrest I did yesterday ended at 401k overall lol

[real pike]

yo is there a limit to like 3 casts in a macro or something

[strange python]

oh Sudden Demise is a bad bad thing for the totems in Atal'Dazar

[strange python]

No, paste your macro in here

[lethal widget]

Man I have some pulls where demise never goes off it feels gimicky

[lucid rain]

[real pike]

#showtooltip Deathmark
/cast Berserking
/use Fleeting Potion of Elemental Power
/cast Deathmark
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Kingsbane

Not doing Kingsbane

[dull osprey]

did kingsbane get nerfed over night?

[strange python]

Yeah cause it's on the GCD along with Deathmark

[elfin forge]

1 on gcd ability per press

[strange python]

you'd need a /castsequence macro

[real pike]

Ohhh I thought DM was off the GCD

thanks homies

[flint tusk]

you can't put multiple GCD items on the same macro
you shouldn't be shadow dancing and kingsbane before doing shiv anyway

[earnest timber]

Thank you.

[flint tusk]

DM>Shiv>Dance/Kingsbane

[arctic tusk]

is envom before DM very important?

[flint tusk]

yes

[lethal widget]

Yes

[flint tusk]

any uptime of kingsbane not covered by envenom is a fair bit of damage loss

[real pike]

oh wow thanks guys lmao fully missed the shiv

[lethal widget]

Kingsbane without envenom up first is like a 20-40% damage diff lol

[gilded oasis]

I swear to god if I queue for one more Galak dngeon and they put in a murz im deleting my account

[real pike]

the cooldowns line up so much nicer in assass than sub

1 min 2 min 3 min no reduction

lovely

[strange python]

There's no way it's that much difference if you cast Envenom the global after.

[whole herald]

istg

i love it so much

[real pike]

so glad to leave that rage inducing spec behind

[flint tusk]

what they did with assa has just been so good for how it feels it's actually crazy

[lethal widget]

It’s about 4-5 auto attacks with snd up with kingsbane scaling off of poison applications, it’s pretty wild

And you waste 3 globals getting the combo points to spend it

[strange python]

It just increases poison application chance by 30% right?

So like it could literally change nothing, technically

[lethal widget]

The last few ticks of kings scale crazy lol

[flint tusk]

increases all 4 of your poisons an extra 30% application change on every auto and ability?

each poison has a different dice roll

[strange python]

I'm not saying it's not important to have it up - but I'm saying that it's not a 40% damage difference by not having it up before you KB versus putting it on a global or two after.

[lethal widget]

20-40

40 being a fringe case where you proc poison every hit

[strange python]

So you're saying that if you Envenom > KB versus KB > mut > Envenom - it could be a 40% difference? No chance.

[timid nest]

Those extra procs make the last hit go from 200k to 400k

[lethal widget]

It’s really big man

[fallow comet]

It matter alot casting envenom before fb

[timid nest]

Test it on dummy

You’ll see

[strange python]

I guess I'll take your word for it - assuming you guys mathed it somehow?

that just seems nuts

[timid nest]

Yee

[lethal widget]

Just smack a dummy my man it’s pretty wild

[swift magnet]

what is the range of Caustic Splatter please?

[spice surge]

10 yards

(based of the target)

[fallow comet]

https://wago.io/PFTo3o6Ug

[flint tusk]

the stacking is additive. that's why if you've got notter's tracker that shows total damage it does you can go from wtf was that to omg how much?

[abstract jacinth]

how hard are your guys KBs hitting with DM?

[swift magnet]

how much is sub's BP to compare?

[strange python]

Deathmark? I don't think that affects kb?

[main blaze]

duplicates poisons

[spice surge]

10 yards, from you

[runic hinge]

Double poisons

[flint tusk]

opening pull on Volcoross HC 2.4m kingsbane

[lethal widget]

It dups poisons

[strange python]

jeez

[swift magnet]

thx!👍

[lethal widget]

More poisons = bigger kb

[strange python]

I guess there's a lot I didn't realize

[tawny barn]

u think double on use trinket good for assa?

[lethal widget]

That’s why these discords exist brother, we all help each other learn 😄

[chrome mirage]

Is anyone else having stealth constantly break for them in keys?

[flint tusk]

kings is a really fun ability and has that reward for playing it well.

[strange python]

well lemme see how hard i hit the dummy now hah

[royal lantern]

welcome too subferfuge my friend

[spice surge]

No

[icy cliff]

Have u read how kingsbane does dam

[flint tusk]

oh i should clarify that was a 100% crit on all the ticks. for that 2.4 but i know people have had higher
https://i.imgur.com/3JxPo1V.png

[lethal widget]

Some trinkets specifically the azzinoth trinket breaks it constantly

[tawny barn]

i used embersoul on pull and then branch for second kingsbane

sounds ok to be fair

[strange python]

Yeah I get it - didn't think about deathmark's interaction though.

[patent hare]

btw is kingsbane before or after deathmark better dps

[lethal widget]

After

[strange python]

I've been following Whispyr's guide...my numbers are ok - i just didn't think about it all I guess

[storm forum]

2.2 mil, but I don't have a good trinket yet.

And that's if I crit good

[chrome mirage]

mfer, I have that on

[abstract jacinth]

do you have any new tier? damn I'm doing something giga-wrong, my highest is like 1.7mil so far

[chrome mirage]

Thank you

[lethal widget]

Np mate

[storm forum]

Old 4 piece only

[strange python]

if i got a new bis trinket that was ilvl 490 - and it kept breaking my stealth, i'd replace it with a blue

[storm forum]

I could make 2 piece, but it's catalyst and omni token so I'm waiting

[abstract jacinth]

I gotta hit a dummy some more I think haha

[storm forum]

I'm like 449 ilvl

[abstract jacinth]

yeah I've only seen a couple new pieces so far, I'm at 447 I believe

[strange python]

From what folks were saying the past few days, 1.7M is pretty good

Mine are like 1-1.4M but I'm ilvl 439

[lethal widget]

Depends on mastery a lot

[balmy condor]

No it isn’t

[storm forum]

Also I think the 2 mil KBs I got were with PI

[lethal widget]

Lust + PI kingsbane is absurd lol

[storm forum]

Hell yeah

Someone was saying they got 3 mil last night with trinket

And hero pi

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[strange python]

oh yeah with witherbark, i believe it

[mossy geode]

i cant choise Outlaw or assassina for mm+

[balmy condor]

Could you imagine

[strange python]

outlaw is slappin man

[balmy condor]

Multiplicative scaling

On kb

Lmao

[lethal widget]

Lmao

[vapid skiff]

holy guacamole

[abstract jacinth]

that'd be awesome

[strange python]

i ran a few with an outlaw today - sin boss dmg is way better though

[strange python]

By the fact you are typing here have decided for you ^^

[storm forum]

That could be us, but realz and their team be sandbagging

[mossy geode]

outlaw sim is correct ?

i think outlaw over sim

[lethal widget]

Lots of bugs in sims atm

[fast phoenix]

Sin boss damage is nutty, feel like outlaw is good for m+ but sin for raiding

[lethal widget]

Outlaw is def the better spec in m+ but not by enough where you should play it if you hate it

[mossy geode]

Outlaw not allow fail xd

outlaw its new sub

[lethal widget]

Sin is a good m+ spec too tbh

[vapid skiff]

ye its really good in m+

[flint tusk]

i fix!

sin is real fun in m+

[chilly viper]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[flint tusk]

even when i hadn't read up anything about how the new spec works for aoe xD

[mossy geode]

you fthink for hard push outlaw is the best

[lethal widget]

Either is fine for pushing

[fast phoenix]

True feels like outlaw is less forgiving. New sub spec

[fiery mauve]

outlaw fucks

[strange python]

If you've always played and enjoyed outlaw - go for it.
If you've always played sin and ejoyed it - go for it.
The hype isn't enough to "make someone change" specs honestly...
But this is definitely the best I've ever seen sin in m+

[mossy geode]

Sin its same stats aoe / mono

[vapid skiff]

not really

[fast phoenix]

I skipped s2 and was sub before so it’s all new to me

[fiery mauve]

And vers slaps for m+

[lethal widget]

Legion sin with those giga poison bombs was crispy

[vapid skiff]

haste loses a lot of value in aoe for ass

compared to crit and mastery

[whole herald]

pretty much everything in legion was crispy

[lethal widget]

Yea that’s fair

[whole herald]

surrender to madness

[mossy geode]

SIn with spec mm+ have better mono than outlaw or its a same

[vapid skiff]

outlaw should have slightly better on pure single target there

but sin should have higher prio dmg in aoe packs

[lethal widget]

Play whichever you like

Honestly they both good asf

[royal lantern]

omw too make that 3billion KB crit

[junior aurora]

average last boss of everbloom kingsbane

[strange python]

diablo 3

why stop at 3 B

[junior aurora]

they said they aren't doing a stat squish until midnight so we might hit 10-100 million dps next xpac again

[vapid skiff]

outlaw tankier and more constistant brr, sin burstier and fucks caster mobs if you take iron wire

[mossy geode]

i need to have spec for raid / mm+

[vapid skiff]

overall they are very close in power i would say

[royal lantern]

cringe af tbh

[mossy geode]

assa its better way for raid and mm+

[flint tusk]

Assa spike DPS 10m here we come?

[lethal widget]

Man I burst that last everbloom boss for 1.8m the first time I went in there and thought I discovered a bug

[strange python]

lol

[lethal widget]

Brother they are both good

At both

Pick a flavor

[mossy geode]

i think assai its easier

for stay focus xd

[tacit charm]

Ass seems just better in raid than outlaw

[junior aurora]

assa likely will end up being better in raid

bosses have damage amps

[vapid skiff]

ass is clearly overall better for raid

[tacit charm]

JPC has only been playing ass in raid

[junior aurora]

this does not mean outlaw isn't good in raid though

[mossy geode]

i dont like lot of prox outlaw xd

[tacit charm]

and has been doing crazy good

[vapid skiff]

some bosses outlaw can be as good

[tacit charm]

yea ik, but I think ass is better than outlaw

[vapid skiff]

but some bosses ass are quite a bit better

[lethal widget]

Kush is playing sub in raid for echo

[fiery mauve]

u know what outlaw has

That assass doesnt

[lethal widget]

Just pick a flavor man l

[fiery mauve]

gun

[vapid skiff]

outlaw still ofc very good

and so is sub aswell

some bosses likely sub will be optimal for

just wont see it much until people have 4 set

[devout prism]

I see a lot of high M+ runs being done with this build which I thought was more of a ST focused build- is it all for boss damage or is there something I'm missing?
https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/DAOFRVFRRFUVQmJBQCRAMVVRUVUYUEUoVBU

[fiery mauve]

Assass pi and execute makes it super attractive in raid

[lethal widget]

That sub 4p is giga

[fiery mauve]

[vapid skiff]

thats a full ST build there is no way they are not at least running spatter tahts a bugged shit

[flint tusk]

we'll see the real shift when tier sets start happening

[stiff kernel]

So is Garrote > FoK > CT > FoK > FoK > Rup > Mut (for Spat) really better than Garrote > FoK > Rup > Mut (Earlier Spat) > FoK > FoK > CT?

in m+ aoe cleave

[devout prism]

might have been a bugged snapshot, I just saw a more recent run on the same character with this build
https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/DAOFVVFRRFURQmJBQCUBNVVVVVQYEAUKFUBA

[vapid skiff]

yes thats a full zug aoe build

[sweet dawn]

Still no trinket but I gotta go to bed

[stiff kernel]

what dungeon lol

[sweet dawn]

Everbloom

[flint tusk]

you'll get it in vault promise

[sweet dawn]

Thank you King

[flint tusk]

along side a double nick of time drop

[stiff kernel]

Thats what im spamming too rn

I got a 470 Nick so im happy with that rn but i need trinkets bad x.x

[grand trail]

can anyone help with WA

i wanna make from this

to desaturate like snd

but havcin blank icon when it desature

[cunning urchin]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[elfin forge]

Is there a list of !bot commands somewhere?

[exotic hearth]

Does anyone else fine the sin changes to feel weird? Like they're not major but just feels kinda gross so far

[lethal widget]

No

[stiff kernel]

show: always > conditions aura missing true desaturate

[elfin forge]

It's likely to do with how this WA even locates the debuff. You can kinda just cheese the same look as Slice icon by placing a desaturated spatter icon there that's always active, but on a lower strata. Then have the buff icon show up over it.

[grand trail]

thats how it wanted to do

bvut did not know about strata

thats was propably my issue

[elfin forge]

Not the most elegant way to do it but works haha

[minor gate]

no tier but sin feels good

[grand trail]

yeah i have snd this way

[willow rain]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[grand trail]

perfect thamnks

[slate crown]

Did you figure it out? just sat back down

[odd ingot]

Guys now we have to play Spike ?

[slate crown]

You can if you want to. It may sim better for you, it may not.

[haughty flicker]

ok so uh

[slate crown]

For me, it does not.

[haughty flicker]

how tf am i supposed to see these branch orbs in a fight

[balmy condor]

Not playing bone spike is punishable by death in 37 countries

Be warned

You have to do it

[slate crown]

Great question

[balmy condor]

No other option to do anything else

Otherwise you die instantly

World explodes

[static glacier]

sudden demise

[spice surge]

If you play ANYTHING but the highest simming option, youre getting thrown in jail

[haughty flicker]

can someone sim moving around randomly and hoping the orbs just work

[next junco]

hey quick question is thre a macro for ambush for the blind side procs to use with mut?

[haughty flicker]

ez

[slate crown]

Honestly I was having a really hard time seeing them in any encounter unless I zoom my camera in a bunch, and even then they are not very distinct, they're very translucent and indecipherable from the visual noise imo

[balmy condor]

The mere thought of playing something other than the thing that gets spit out in not bis profiles sometimes maybe depending on your gear is frankly disgusting

[slate crown]

If you want to cover the last part of KB, use the trinket like ~2-3 seconds into KB, and just don't move

[haughty flicker]

yeah i just started second raid night and its kind of cursed

[grand trail]

i make secondary wa with lowe strata

[oak tangle]

i am just never going to sim with SBS talented, it can't be better if i don't see a sim

[static glacier]

even if it is better

it's a chill talent to play

gives you something to press when larodar fucks off to narnia while charging

[oak tangle]

is there any good yt vids of a key atm

[keen spruce]

[ebon temple]

[steel spire]

Fotms out

[icy cliff]

Just wanna tell you all i have less fun playing the game since i have to choose between dmg and acro

[lethal widget]

Which dungeon?

[oak tangle]

but like, just forget seasons 1 and 2 existed

[tropic tundra]

I just go acro in keys

Mental health matters

[keen spruce]

blackrook

[slate crown]

Hybrid or shock?

[keen spruce]

hybrid

i like doin like 350k openers on bosses

in my aoe build

so hybrid

[tropic tundra]

SOULS OF THE BLACKROOK
RISE AND JOIN OUR CHORUS

[oak tangle]

you should record a key so i can watch it

[keen spruce]

it's very inflated damage

cuz it's blackrook

[oak tangle]

i don't care about damage numbers, i jsut wanna get a better idea of the minute to minute decisions

[keen spruce]

uhh my minute to minute decisions are pretty

[lethal widget]

Yea I had to make sure it was everbloom or blackrook before I questioned reality

[keen spruce]

i'm not sure if i'm doing anything correctly

this was darkheart

[oak tangle]

i mean (i know i said i didnt care about damage numbers) your damage seems fine enough to assume you made some good decisions

[keen spruce]

kinda scuffy

[tropic tundra]

You’re right when you outdps enha pickers

[oak tangle]

i just never know what's the best choice between getting more ruptures out or trying to spatter off a mob

[whole herald]

what is timestrike as a stat?

[royal lantern]

idk, i hit stuff, stuff dies, so it works

that me in wow since forever

[keen spruce]

just ignore the timestrike number and real anything that says timestrike as "1% more damage"

^

fax

[whole herald]

so basically farm galakrond on mass?

seems pretty strong

[balmy condor]

Mainhand you’ll want ilvl probably

You wouldn’t drop like 10 ilvl on mainhand for it

[grand trail]

tommoro the dagger gring (and hourglass trinket) start

[eternal heath]

BM dummy strong

[grand trail]

branch farm today was not succeful so i got embersould

[whole herald]

alright

[rain mortar]

oh boys.... we are PUMPIN sheeeesh

[grand trail]

i was pumpin very hard in raid today

[whole herald]

same

without a big effort too lol

[grand trail]

like only BM keepin up

[whole herald]

and i got my first setpiece today

[rain mortar]

you love seing stuff like this

[abstract jacinth]

holy, show me da wey

[balmy condor]

Kingsbane

That’s it

[abstract jacinth]

okay I'm doing that but I suck lol

[whole herald]

im pretty certain its getting nerfed

[elder torrent]

When should I switch off 4 piece

I missed it

I have 2p

[royal lantern]

when you have 2p

[rain mortar]

yeah im getting nervous we might see a nerf bat... but hopefully not haha

[tropic tundra]

Kinda weird to ask here but hows disc priest in keys now

Asking cause most of the screenshots have them

[whole herald]

we probably shouldnt use catalyst charge yet right=

[royal lantern]

probs strong then?

[eternal heath]

I feel like I am not using kingsbane nearly often enough

[rain mortar]

no even though its very temping when you get 1 pv

[oak tangle]

i don't see why you shouldn't use it after you're done raiding for the week

unless you got no pieces

[whole herald]

i prolly do it if i get hands on hc ilvl

[oak tangle]

2k io is a free piece

[whole herald]

i got no group and pugging to 2k is aids

but yeah

[royal lantern]

?

2k is like, all on 15lol

[eternal heath]

Man, I have nothing worth upgrading atm lol

[short quarry]

ye but not this week. you have to do 19/20 for this week

[royal lantern]

unless you want week1, but then you are a very very special kind of stupid anyway

[eternal heath]

Aside from explorer stuff

[whole herald]

im 450 and im getting declined constantly on 10

wdym 15

[royal lantern]

[royal lantern]

play aug

[short quarry]

play outlaw

[whole herald]

suck my d

[short quarry]

i get into all my keys

[gaunt moat]

Hello
Fixed a couple of bugs in the KB weakaura:

• If the initial damage killed the target, the aura didn't go away.
• Damage done to absorb shields (such as Fyrakk's) didn't show up

Please get the new version if you were using an older one.

https://wago.io/PFTo3o6Ug

[whole herald]

i'd rather kms than play aug

[short quarry]

outlaw > assa in keys still from a perception stand point

[crude anvil]

justt got 4p, opener in raid went from 300 k to 600k lmao

[whole herald]

people cant even see the spec

[short quarry]

ya they can

new change

[oak tangle]

bruh's got 4pc already

[crude anvil]

ye

[oak tangle]

i haven't even entered the raid yet

[crude anvil]

splits op

[lethal widget]

Cookin

[crude anvil]

opop

[short quarry]

im playing outlaw but you assas are having all the fun. i wish the stat prios were closer

i miss having burst

[royal lantern]

stat prio

[short quarry]

what, i dont get any mastery as outlaw

[haughty flicker]

the fucking meme dagger

has dropped for me on all 3 difficulties

[oak tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-planet-petty-gif-18535100

[whole herald]

the dream dogshit?

they couldve at least put some good stats on it

[royal lantern]

its a early easy reachable weapon, idk what you guys complain

[haughty flicker]

the heroic version was big ilvl though

yeah im fine with that one

but lfr and normal

[whole herald]

yeah thats true

[royal lantern]

jerking secondarys off

when secondarys have sich a minor impact

[oak tangle]

cause our stats are so close it doesn't matter, also with bis gear we want lower mastery anyway cause of trinket

[haughty flicker]

i called it meme dagger bc of the effect

idgaf about the secondaries

[short quarry]

well shit i might just try assa then

[whole herald]

well its still kinda meh for a special weapon

[short quarry]

thought i needed more mastery

[whole herald]

with the on use

[haughty flicker]

its also unique

so the evoker won the roll for transmog

lmao

[oak tangle]

only requirement is 2 daggers

[sterile perch]

Anyone get that branch trinket yet? Is it really strong?

[haughty flicker]

when i can see the orbs yeah

[spark scaffold]

We dodged nerfs

[lethal widget]

Man why do people think rogue is getting nerfed lol

[royal lantern]

eh, assa is doing kinda dummy burst dmg

so idk

[oak tangle]

historical events

[royal lantern]

expect something

[violet sonnet]

i cant figure this damn spec out lmao

[royal lantern]

[granite widget]

for ST is it appropriate to macro kb to dance?

[oak tangle]

remember that time we were strong in voti

and then we became the bottom spec

[royal lantern]

why do people act as if nerf means its the absolute end of the world lol

[spark scaffold]

Because there is 2 outliers atm in assa and bm, and bm is getting nerfed substantially

[dusk sun]

is the shock build the best one for m+?

[royal lantern]

aug

fuck aug

[spark scaffold]

Also we could take a 5% nerf and still be top tier atm

[cursive solstice]

So

[spark scaffold]

Not wrong but thats on the top level

[eternal heath]

I am braindead

Wasted some flightstones

[cursive solstice]

What is the best build for m+ getting a lot of different info

From googling

[eternal heath]

Guides there

[dusk sun]

from what i initially understand as a sin scrub, the arterial shock m+ build good for heavy fort while the hybrid build focuses more on tyrna?

[cursive solstice]

Wowhead has 3 different ones

[balmy condor]

FLIGHTSTONES? No way

It’s so over

[eternal heath]

im in shambles

it's joever

[fallen forge]

are there timers for gnarlroot burn phases or do we just send dm + kb on cd

[spark scaffold]

Does sanguine blades double dip mastery btw

[balmy condor]

Intermissions are 2 min apart

[balmy condor]

No

[celest helm]

then read the article it actually explains

[spark scaffold]

Ok, does it double dip dmg amplifiers

[balmy condor]

The question of “does X double dip” 99.99% of times will be answered with no

Spells are Purposely set up not to

[cursive solstice]

I did I promise this is Tommy last resort D: