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there's plenty of good stuff, but nothing mandatory
I've been away for a bit so I've forgotten the page but, didn't Whispyr or Fuu (or someone else?) make a Rogue rotation analyzer webpage you loaded logs to?
I'm having trouble trying to recall the name of the page...
lol duh, ty
np, I'll fav it this time
but probably will be at some point
u were so close 
think of all of the mad casters i can link this too

do casters want music box
why do casters care about that
id assume they’d rather have branch from waycrest
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Basically covered it in your last statement there
fk em my ring in their caster set
Can carry over the dot based on 30% of the new base duration
fire is haste/vers, frost is mastery/crit
only caster i can think of is arcane
nope arcane is crit/mastery too now
Got it. Thank you!
!up
[Cruel Dreamcarver worth to upgrade 463 ? I think so
I simmed, waitin for the results
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Worth noting that snapshotted dots won’t transfer nicely like that
Sudden demise bugged ?
Another one: with the build without amplifying poison and dragon tampered blade, which is better between instant poison and deadly poison to apply? I thought it was def the latter but the wowhead guide contain this so I'm a bit confused, esp at the m+ build.
"Applying poisons. Amplifying Poison should be the go-to. With Dragon-Tempered Blades talented, Deadly Poison would be your next best poison. If you aren't talented into Amplifying Poison then Instant Poison would be the next best option after that. "
deadly poison
DTB is saying if you don't have amp poison for whatever reason you would go deadly/instant
instead of deadly/wound
I was getting unstealthed in dawn part 2 for some reason
Does anybody else have a problem with caustic splatter wa? I am using whispyr's afenar edit and caustic splatter stays gray even when debuff is up
it's happening to me in raid and all dungeons, probably a combination of factors listed
Even [Cruel Dreamcarver] 463 shows 4.5k upgrade jeeeez 😄
Can't find it in Whispyr's guide, but is there a good recommendation for an open world build somewhere? I don't think Indiscriminate Carnage is needed necessarily, but im not entirely sure
whats a good build for this weeks m+
IC + Sudden demise is great in open world content
I just run around pull some stuff with gar + rupture and run away and everything below 500k hp dies without anything else
So basically just go with the m+ build then? Arterial Precision seems good for the short battles
Pretty much I would switch spatter to IB tho
I am doing World Content with M+ build
hero drops from +18 or ?
! @austere fulcrum
Is Crimson tempest worth it for open world you reckon?
ic isnt
its so low range
doesnt spread on open world mobs
only good in dungeons where tank groups stuff
If you have plenty of other guys near you then yeah
okay i got it ^^
any assasin t30 10.2 guide ? I see a lot of killers, I'm playing outlaw and I want to try it, I've never played with the spec
Aight, thanks guys
it does tho. you just pull with gar and wait till mobs are slightly grouped and then you can rupture with ic to spread ruptures and IB
Do you guys generally skip crippling poison on sanguine weeks?
Wowhead
and just run 1 non-lethal
thank u @pseudo hamlet
was just writting explain for that 🙂 cheers!
Man Assa feels good after the rework. Super, super pleased with what Blizz has done
Nah, sometimes you can just wait for the mobs to come or just FoK and spread garrotes + ruptures a few seconds later
ultra stupid question but just to make sure with my drunk brain, "at 4+ cp" means "4,5, or 6 cp", right?
ok, ty
yes
since there's no way we can overcap by building at 3
Is the tier 30 one still there? I thought it would only have the t31
ok thanks
Doesn't change the rotation
We doing the same thing in both tiers
assasiiiin all the way
I also love raiding as assassination
But enjoy m+ more as sub (or at least I did before rogue reworks)
can we do it dawn of time again and again?
gz jeeez
Niiiiice

spheres last for 20s btw
I imagine someone will make a weakaura to shove your face into one before the timer expires
So we collect 2 and extend later with the 3rd one? Or just one for every 10sec?
I believe guide said eat 2 then wait
we take those, not branch hey but worth
Or…all 3 at burst
well I think you'd macro it with deathmark
and since it's 16s, you'd eat 2
then have 3 for big kb damage
Sounds much better
since sphere buff lasts 10s
rogue turns into momentum dh for 10 seconds 
I just realized a 470 trinket is 747 agility
holy shit
what's 489? 850-900?
If you're doing small keys you're gonna feel a bit weak
Anyone have a vod or sin stream of s3 dungeons from last night? Wanted to watch some at work
amen
i spend every pack
contemplating my life and just counting up the time kb is sitting ready to use
and then you kb and your target dies instantly
the only way it could be worse was if it was purely like totm and did no damage if the mob wasnt alive at the end of it
also im doing keys with 0 tier of any sort
oof
can some1 tell me why assa now plays versatility stats now 
Vers is still lowest
i mean yeah, but with ilvl being abundant, the agi bonus is just a win
in aoe opener, is it better to apply CT early right after garrotes&ruptures or after using up all the cds? Bit confused bc wowhead says after cds, icyvein says the opposite
intuitively i think cds first is better tho
either works
if you have snd up and some CP
i CT before cooldowns
if you dont, i do it afte
i come back from work and notice there is new build with bonespike 😩 pls no.
ah
been asking these cause i'm trying to translate the rotation part now...thank you for your help!
nah
im usually doing kinsbane garrote envenom garrote garrote CT
and the rupture is applied in the vanish isntead
tbf
What are they dropping for bone spike
What site can i use BMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAkWSSISQAAAAAAIlkIlkAAAAAAAaJJIBSSKpFREkkkkEJNtIBA at lol
or is that for in-game
there is build in the pins
ashes is super bis for sin?
so the second one is cataclism?
wat rune i want for ass ?
Nothing changed right, craft is still toxic boots?
yeah aparently so
Yes
meh. don't think I did the best that I could last night. We cleared normal and then moved onto heroic. felt like made lot of mistakes. got into the old habit of being too spammy, but getting that PI there were times I was getting so much energy I couldn't spam enough
Getting Pi on 2nd dm felt nice
is it just me or is shroud weird rn
Sbs is based ur all haters
wow. sbs is almost 2% for me
sbs is dog pls no it was only kinda fun on outlaw near the end of shadowlands for like a second
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i will swap class if someone tells me i have to use bone spike again
you don't have too
might say a word or two to you
Say them coward
What is the "general" spec for assa in m+?
Nice except 
nice you can play outlaw now
fuck you
how do you guys decide when to press cds in m+?
Pins
Guides in pins
ye looks like it
quake am I allowed to say sbs is cringe in st
shouldnt be a st talent
sbs is cringe in general
whats so bad about sbs ? (didnt play SL)
I mean I just think the most interesting part about sbs is the cp gain and resets
in st its a bit strange
on st its just a mindless "use on pull and then when you have no energy for anything else"
got a chest armor for a +17 key 
Yeah losing all the soulbind stuff made it kinda shit in ST
i dont really get why it got forced into a st talent
first guranteed tier piece
I mean its not even about its power level or anything
on st its just a cheap builder (ranged and with charges for some reason)
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on aoe/m+ the range make sense, you have resets, + the cp minigame which was really interesting
you forgot that it needs 20years too reach some bosses
bruh ive gotten every single piece of dawn loot
ye
isnt it just lethal dose making it a st talent?
I got mirror from dawn and was about to give it too someone else as I thought it wasn't that good for us
Rumor has it, it’s still flying down to terros’s dick to this day
i saw it hit terros once, the 1 cp it gave me was like a jumpscare
Yeah banger of pathing for that one
its a st talent cause its hidden behind a st talent
Solid 4s to get the CP 
just me or does stealth just randomly break in keys?
Keep everything, we suffered enough this expac. Everything is a rogue trinket/weapon now
!stealthbreak
Stealth can break from:
- crit flask Overwhelming Rage (red debuff)
- evoker leggo buff dropping
- Essence trinket on buff gain
- Voice of the Silent Star (Sark cape)
Even guns/bows, we need them for tmog
so glad outlaw isnt the only spec suffering from subterfuge anymore
what a cool game
SURELY they fix it now 
I was looking an excuse to get rid of bomb anyway the subterfuge stuff is so annoying
A mess
ye
I remember him splitting subterfuge and imp garrote
is it subterfuge that broke shroud 2x for me? 
!up
Along with a bunch of other random shit ye
But at least you can hearth in stealth now
WORTH
ye subterfuge make stealth giga weak for some reason
i hate the branch trinket. do ut need to be this ?
without subt talented stealth is mostly fine
Has there been a decision made on what embellishments to craft for s3?
use ashes
slightly worse
no orb kiting
It’s the same

If I wanted to play Assa and Sub
ashes ?
oh really?
ashes of the stars OwO ?
even better
So are we crafting toxic boots at 467 now?
So it’s probably slightly better than it’s simming
Is that the play if you play outlaw & sin?
can you still proc the trinket with cheat death on pull
Probably
I wouldn’t craft anything just yet
let me look up this ashes trinket
Do you know until when?
Next week
Ok
Kinda see where gear settles after vault
If we have no embellishments than toxic? for now?
Then sim crafting another piece vs upgrading the embellishments. Cause they’re all kinda shit now
im happy 
Yea if you don’t have any embellish you can rip the boots and be fine
I was forced to play my pally last night

Hybrid of M+ AP?
u mean the 608 haste trinket o.o ?
yes?
O.o ok
Same here, splits be splitting
i thought haste is not so good for rogue
when 80% of your dmg is inside a single burst window, getting 2143163461613246166 mainstat during that burst window
is kinda strong
Why would you think that

assa likes haste
a soul condensator for main stat ? xD
but stat prio is crit mastery no ?
assa has no stat prio
Split groups, my day is tomorrow
Well today ig
oh
This is with tier set or pre-tier set?
Can’t wait for zero daggers to drop tonight
are you doing 2 splits

what's the M+ pre tierset talents rn?
Yeah, hoping we all settle our 2pc cause I ain’t playing that shit spec again
wowhead ones are updated?
so , a bit if haste is also nice i gues :3
Yes
ngl doing splits is kinda goated
you get gear so much faster
for not much work
thanks tyr !
I like it very much
Yeah it’s nuts, but actually playing a rat alt in heroic week 1 ain’t the play
97k dps 
hey guys what enchant do we need on weapon ?
actually my alt got a 463 main hand from the new zone
wavtic devotion ?
so its going to blast
well
sim it
wispyr told me to use it o.o
same XD
and sim is better overall :3
ye I never listen to this whispyr guy

he is a bit sus
i believe haste procc can safe your ass in singletarget energy pool
!stats
The following is a general recommendation, but you will always get more accurate results through simming your gear through Top Gear.
Crit >= Mastery > Haste > Versatility
Note: In high mythic+ keys, you may want more Versatility to survive. While you may see this on high end players gear, this is generally worse DPS. For pure DPS, Versatility is mostly avoided.
That’s not what I wrote
bot commands are kinda op
I just bookmarked it, way too usefull
You’re also smarter, better, and more handsome than me
oh thanks dad you are so nice 
Since u are a lawyer... the mirror sews him every morning he washes his face
Anyone knows how a 470 branch is only simming .6% over 441 bacon and fragment?
link sim
branch is 12hours old, no correct sim yet i believe
it will be in
thx
cant do
pins
Would you use Mirror or branch in burst
cus ive got both
but dunno what is most worth
oki
i think swapping vanish/dance in KB window is better because can get 6s MA during last 6s of KB
am i wrong?
you lose 10% kb snapshot
vanish - kb - garrote
I had a fuckin blast in raid last night, was fuckin awesome
dance gives 6s MA
No, he means the snapshot for the entire poison
vanish would snapshot it there too
Ahh. Yeah, thats true
It seems plausible, would need to sim, but then your 1m and 2m burst are different
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why doesn muti get replaced w/ ambush when im in subterfuge?
cause blindside does it, and you dont use a stealth bar
awkward
you can make a macro that will give you ambush / mut based on stance though
it's basically just this but a sin variant
#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2] Shadowstrike
/cast [stance:1] shadowstrike
/cast [stance:0] Backstab; Gloomblade
when to branch in st rotation?
DM
i don't raid till sunday, which is kinda good cause im only 444 ilvl after a bit of grinding today
show them numbers again
I beat them on boss dam even without it so I got that going for me
Tell your priest he/she looks handsome/pretty before pull
i got it a handful of times. wasnt worried though. when it comes down to prog; ill be getting it
i think once people realize we get it, they will switch
ty
Played sin for most of our normal clear last night and forgot to press KB during Shadow dance all raid 👍👍👍👍👍👍
💀
Does Dance proc master assassin?
It's fine I just missed out on checks notes
Oh god
Hmm 470 branch still only 1% ahead of 441 bacon and fragment
No but I think it triggers nightstalker for the 10 percent damage
Which is why I fucked up goodly
Yea I'm still working on that opener too
I did a few keys after and did 80 percent of our BM hunter sin feeling goooood
if it helps, you can macro dance and kb together
You can always keybind it to KB for raiding makes it so you can never forget !
Minus the time he did 700k DPS on the Atal pull before the gold boss lmao
Aye I will make that macro tn
As an also lazy M+ player I jsut leave it binded there as well
make sure dance is first obviously
Anyone know why I can't seem to macro mirror of fractured tomorrows onto deathmark?
It just does nothing, but if I type /use 13 into chat it works perfectly fine
is it because you have a branch and I don't and it's god's punishment?
The deathmark is lowercase
case doesn't matter
O
I am typing the full name of mirror in my macro and it works
Triggers me tho, please correct it
so maybe weird bug with numbering?
Guys my gnarl H parse is so fat
Yo team is there a rough sim sheet looking at bis gear anywhere?
is it not casting deathmark, the trinket, or both

nvm reloaded it and its fixed already
Any chance your mirror is in the 14th slot
Anyone knows if the opener is modified when we spec into SBS?
Just ramping up for later king
Nah, I'm pretty smoothe brained but not that bad
Last week was the first time I ever played sin and I only did questing lol
I'll just type in the name, just didn't want to remake the macro every new trinket
So I was still learning my rotation during raid last night lol
my LFR parses looking pretty embarrassing dw
My trinky works in my 14 maybe slide er down and change it to use 14 before you get all drastic and type words out
I got a whole 2 green parses in normal
Although I also did half of Tindral with no poison accidentally
My no dance is 3k less than dance
The name in the macro doesn't work either, gonna try 14 and hope for the best
Mr @marble hemlock love you so much(sorry for the tag) is there any changes in the opener if we spec into SBS?
It can just replace a mut
You tried your best
Dog a blue parse in LFR is like a 140% heroic parse
Yeah hahaha
Bosses last like 8.5 months
Lol I was pretty awful but also went in with like 437ilvl and WQ trinkets
200k overall without aug i guess this is kinda bad
Why would that be bad
Not sure if humblebrag
ugh idk
coz flexing
You realize average overall for most keys is like 150-170 right
https://i.imgur.com/75JhRSv.png cuz i had rly 0 idea of what i was doing
i doubt it
Was your boomkin afk?
no xD
That’s fine and dandy you doubt it, but I promise you without an Aug 150-170 is about where everyone is
Bigger
More

higher
ive got a meme for that but ild be banned 😄
I appreciates we all used different words
Yeah assassination is fun af in keys now
no its dogshit time to reroll
All the new toys are very nice
waycrest feels weird
fancy screenshot
why is it rgb
caustic kingsbane is a vibe
Takes time to get comfy, don’t stress it. Enjoy the ride my friend 
Why are your screenshots not
ye thats true
Plus iirc your rogue isn’t super geared
Oh definitely! I am honestly enjoying it so far
Correct
Big numbers coming your way soon I believe 
I am at like 443 now though. Got 3 pieces in raid last night
i hate that place, I cant handle my camera bering shoved up my ass while making sure not to eat frontals
And im still rocking WQ trinkets
Hell yeah
Yeah trinkets are a big part of damage these days sadly
Tier shoulders, first boss cloak, and the fat vers neck
You should try it with a Ret pally
S1 ring 2.0
Lol imagine getting raid loot. Couldn't be me
Oxi
You end up doing upstairs and downstairs at the same time
The Ret in my key kept pulling entire rooms with divine storm
Do you happen to know why I am only simming +1% with doggy trinkets compared to 470 branch

help
happened with the boomkin in my group
I think I was only swimming like 110k ST with the dance buils lol

Thats just them tab targeting lol
kept getting him ganked because they would come running down and munch him
I mean im sure it is
Pulling whole rooms and/or through the floor is a feature of wcm
but idk how through the floor
Un momento
Is nightly an option or just latest
shareX
Starfall will only hit things in combat
latest is better
Nightly is too but Zac said latest
latest is the latest
makes sense
nighlty is rebuilt in the morning
part of it is fragment oversims like a mfer for assa
Shouldn't it be morningly then
The Sims still wants to use fragment during dm/kb
Yea I did hear it oversimmed
nighttime for us is morningly for them
Seems to be omega oversimming then
Fk timezones
ahh makes sense so branch is just meh outside cooldowns
I've found that ~14s are where the mobs start living long enough for things to live through a Kingsbane. At around 447 ilvl anyway
lemme slap a nelth trinket in there for you
it'll make it less jank

Try branch in first Slot and beacon in second
Yeah thats a other reason my key dps was low
We had every single trinket drop last night in normal, I got exactly 0 of them.
which forces a certain order of use
I didnt know when to use kb
koji implemented them
allegedly
ye no thats not what I meant
Other rogue got the serpent, although he's on the fence atm
but I want the other anyway
me 
murder him and steal his rogue
it's the only way
maybe this is me being too nitpicky but it would have been nice if sudden demise worked on poison damage too, you could freely send kb more in packs
remove fragment
But he's a subbywubby
suddenly makes more sense
but if you wanna know how much that piece of shit oversims by
now you know

are there any huge rotiatonal diff in the arterial precision build? it looks cool so wanted to try it out
seems a bit diff tho
What is oversimming?
irideous fragment from last season
branch?
well its not really oversimming here, but the apl is a bit messed up for sin when you have 2 on use
Ah
which arent handled
I mean it is oversimming zac
it was oversimming by 18%
last tier
Just make sim ignore fragment when it sees it 
Holy
Thanks
I will say, my 450 azzinoth trinket did fuck all for damage last night.
maybe but thats not what the issue was with his sim here
Fragment really oversimming if that much
can i just macro branch to dm?
the issue was multi-faceted
it really is just that the fragment was being used as first trinket on pull
part of it is double on-use, yes
which meant branch is useless
but a big chunk of it was the sim overvaluing the trinket
his original droptimizer had branch in first slot at a +2000 dps gain
so it wasn't that
part of it was double on use
yes
but part was also fragment greatly oversimming for assassination
you can't discount the fact that the trinket was almost 20% off the entire tier
well the order doesnt matter for this trinket cause it has a specific apl line which will override trinket order
I mean you simply can't say that
its just messed up when you have double on use with one not handled
lol
it's not that simple
you can't just point at the sim and be like "oh it's just 2 on use"
I'm not going to argue semantics with you
the way sin apl is made it kinda cnat handle double on use like that
like you're wrong
yo real quick though - any reason to not macro branch with deathmark?
both are trying to be used in cds, but cant, so either one ends up not getting used
Would not using crippling poison have any effect on my damage in m+? Like, is there some interaction that I'm not thinking of?
you're good to go in that regard
Thinking of not running it on sanguine weeks
so yes
please don't use crippling poison during sanguine
if you're playing DtB and not using crippling poison
you're actually inting your damage
so either don't play dtb on sanguine weeks, or tell your tank to learn how to kite better
idk
do u think it's only a mastery issue
but no, secondary stats aren't going to magically give you 20,000 dps
!dagger
441 and 437 daggers vs 424 and 437 axe and daggers
does obtaining 4p lock you into dtb in m+?
I have definitely just not put on crippling in raids before
crippling doesn't apply to bosses
so
you're gucci
Yeah we lose 2% damage from crippling immune mobs, life sucks
everyone reroll boomkin
Joever pack it up guys
Already did
and flood them with questions about sandbagging
currentyl leveling
nah, you still have freedom of choice w/ talents regardless
can't be deader than ww
Does anyone else wake up with cuts/bruises?
They do that to themselves
Also oxi, I need the stats meme gif the boomkins always use
Lmao
Cause I just noticed a cut on my hand and last week I woke up with a bruise on my side
Fucking true jfc
It just made me think of it when that person posted their quick Sim screenshots
self harm is a common side effect of maining a rogue in world of warcraft
checks out
Like is this one of those things they forgot to tell me about adulthood like shaving and taxes?
Getting beat up in your sleep. Or did you join a fight club?
Seems about right
There's a gif where it says "my stats are..." and asking what dps should be or something
should i use arterial shock shiv once my garrote rupture crimson tempest is up on most the adds? Or is there a more optimal use
I expect this from monks, not rogues
green rogue is still a rogue
When ur about to pump with KB spatter
how do you use shiv in the arterial precision build
fists are blunt
Oh, i see. I havent been using KB on aoe scenarios mb
I didnt know it had aoe implications
you should!
😮
it's hard to use kb in aoe when everything explodes before you finish putting up ruptures
Sorry im two days in sin coming from sub
Yeah if you take the spatter talent it goes nuts
It is SO STRONG bruh
as a former (recovering) boomkin main this hurts
and can pump
not using kb on aoe is like not pressing sec tec
same as hnormal? like dm/shiv/dance/kb?
Yep
I see, thanks my friend
Uhhhhh is it better to wear the abberrus teir in M+ right now becasue PHEW CHILE
Should Kb always be used with dance?
Like in raid, I just turn on spatter and it does 17% of my overall with an otherwise full single target build. It's great
Ues
Yes
You can safely macro them together too
guys im level 46, which secondary stat should i focus on?
does level count as a secondary stat
exp
I know it s a meme but you could probably say more mastery 😛
Good idea thanks!
any branch chads know what your mastery % goes up to when you're orb gaming
Have you considered more haste? More haste = more spell = more weapon swings = more big dam
more spell? are we warrior gamers
More zugzug
46 -> 93 with a 470 branch
current mastery is 3431
i would like to see the mastery % on a sub
I got mine out of a depleted 14 with 35-ish deaths
The last boss of everbloom is such a meme lmao
lmao

I pray today I will not get another 6 pairs of shoes
I'm fairly certain the people in that party never played WoD
Call me the last boss of everbloom
I've gotten four belts today 🤣😭
Easy? 😉
sup yalnu
what does yalnu bout me tho
worst part about getting all these fuckin boots is that I already have my toxic spikes
something about everbloom turns tank brains more off then ussual
they justz pzll 5 of those caster guys at once
3x in a row
lol
entire party gets locked down by choking vines
i dont find the casters in everbloom to be the biggest problem though
Oh yea no one killing gnarlroot roots is also fun
my group was getting 1 shot by the berserker charges lol
gnarlroot is big skip
Because u aren't doing high enoug hkeys then
fuck that mob
it legit one shots
you can interrupt them
which dungg yall found the worst so far
murazond
2nd part
or upper dawn if you wanna call it that
throne of the tides
And it is not close at all
has been the worst
The boomie discord goes absolutely feral (lol) if you mention dorki, they fucking hate him lmfao
Haven't done throne tbf
bc he doesn't run their talents lol
throne is alright, nothing too crazy in there
throne is worse than every other dungeon x 3
yeah the gauntlet in throne of tides was cooked in the on i did
mann throne has such dogshhit graphics
that last hallway
you just need to pull way back to the start of the hallway so you don't get swarmed by the little guys if you have uncontrollable cleave
DHT worst dungeon so far for me. Not sure if it was just bad route etc etc. But that place sucks.
Seeying DH's damagge im jealous for them aint gonna llie
maybe sin AoE will pull up in 20+
Tides by far
is it perfectly fine to not use death mark on Dance + KB combo? Esp if DM is on cd? (aoe scenario)
yes otherwise u would waste 50% of KB casts?
It will be up by the time DM is back up
vdh damage seems really high rn but I haven't looked up the actual data
Boomie….going feral….
Speaking of feral, how are they doing now?
Feral are solid
Tides wasn't bad at all but I only ran a 16. What didn't you like about it?
Boomie Discord ✅ Going feral ✅ Talking about Guardian ✅
Boomie Discord ✅ Going feral ✅ Talking about Guardian ✅
you hit the nail on the head
Mostly the first boss actually not a fan of bosses that are basically just an add gauntlet with waves of adds over and over.
Heard some elemental is overtuned
I don't like the first boss cus she goes immune too much
going to just start using kb on her trash instead
Also the second boss is very confusing
I think my group did it on 14 and we didn't really have trouble with anything
Yeah their burst aoe is even higher than Blood DKs hahah
people didn't play cata so the elemental gauntlet was a disaster
Is there a trinket list somewhere
yeah but at that level nothing is rly hard
true
the only dungeon place i have wiped so far this tier not due to mechanics, was the throne of tides gauntlet on a +5
try on a higher level lol
I have a 16 Galakrond's Fall luned up with guildies tomorrow. Fingies crossed I get me a daggy C:
you do throne once
reach the endboss as a melee dps
and then you are confused how that even left the drawing board
we focused on pushing up everyone's keys than going hard on one particular key
Fucking true
Christ now that I think about it the only good boss in there was the one we all skipped cause it used to be optional
How did any single mob leave the drawing board on 2nd part dawn tho
So how are we compared to outlaw rn?
we're both rogue specs
Outlaw is for noobs
Both yellow
Both not subtlety
which yellow higher on deeps?

The one I choose to play 
This could depend on the dude hitting the keyboard
boss mechanic at endboss throne
aoe around players that spawn permanent puddles, the puddles kill in 3-4 seconds
spawns adds that spawn puddles on death, 6 adds at once
sometimes players can cleanse ~3-4 puddles
ofc the aoe indicatior is absolute bullshit and is black on a dark blue ground+aoe is bigger then the animation
all that results in
sin does infinite more deeps than outlaw, cause i will not play outlaw
newbornn could hit keyboard as outllaw and top
Yeah I just decided to sit there and die. C:

hiitmen are on the way
worst players get the best loot

Ok wtf
Double deadge
its ok the 2 bm hunters in your gruop can do the fight
I dunno that I'll be pumping 17s this week 
I was about to make the "go back and farm for terts" joke
Kekw
now only second dagger and branch
It's not that bad, just make sure puddles don't get into melee and cleanse proactively
don't you get the beams to clear the puddles on the throne boss though
whats our bis trinks?
but everyone told me blizz hates bm and that hunter is weak and that "hunter is statisticaly the weakes class in the game if you go by older patches" (actual real thing somebody told me btw)

That "new" build feels awesome in m+_
brooo sin felling hella gooooood we r so back
new build?
Branch from Everbloom, and then whatever proc trinket you got
what tf is sin
us
were sinners
İ always fall a sleep whenever i play my BM hunter
BM hunters, Boomies and Mages sandbagging the fuck out of tier lists 🤝
it's when you need Jesus.
pin
name a more iconic duo
meanwhile destro lock/devoker/augvoker exists and nobody says that 
Dev is fine
I say it
destro lock is so fucking braindead, bm is a math PHD against it
Wdym devoker is very hard 
incinerate-incinerate-chaos bolt for the entire fight
I actually see SO MANY devokers that struggle to play the spec lmao
Hard to stay awake
My rl says evoker was designed to raidlead from cause it's so easy
Yeah cause BM hunter is a literal two button spec now
always has been
they actually gained a button this patch thats why they are topping
3 button spec
33% dps increase
✅ burst profile
✅ infinite mobility
✅ cute dragon butt
What more do you want??
More now than it has been for a long time tbh
"burst profile"
Batman couldn’t beat this one outta me I’m ngl big dog
It's actually a 50% increase cause math idk
Ye its burstier, but not really
bm is a hard spec to play, you have to first be willing to play it, but also when playing it you have to avoid falling asleep, that shits hard
mage like mobility and utility
but then its just mage 
Lol
Yeah I sure love Devastation's -check notes- 55 second burst phase
you're forgetting the 17% nerf from the fotm reroller mouthbreathers
Mouth breathing is a buff for bm because it helps the player connect with their dumbass pets
yeah thats why its a 17% nerf and not a 33% nerf
I want to see WW just randomly get buffed to be 30% stronger than it is right now. For like.. no reason. As compensation.
Who hurt you
Who hasn't hurt me?
It would still only have like twenty five players
bc people know better
Me
Hey. I have watched wispyrs guide and read wohead. But im still unsure how to open. I use Hekili since i new. But it does not tell me to do multiple garrotes out of stealth in aoe. Do i apply garrote to all, and can i also do rupture to all (if 6 targets) and how do i reaply these?
SRy if bad question
That's a lie, you have a green name
Guys, a question: I’ve been following @balmy condor ‘s cd rotation where we cast shadow dance with kingsbane and then vanish during the last 3 seconds of kingsbane. But watching perfecto and jpc play, they seem to be casting vanish with kingsbane and then shadowdance during the last 6 seconds of kingsbane. Is that the play?
green name only means "stops playing wow soon"
its what they're doing
what if I breathh through the mouth annddd nose at the saame time ?
I would not use hekili but you also want to apply bleeds until you’re saturated in energy. So it depends on a lot. But I’d follow pretty close what you see him do in the opener in m+
you are a disc priest now
soon 
isnt quake already gonege
Too much power, blizzard sends electric shocks through your PC to induce an aneurysm
Ye
whos left
I heard it was fine to get an idea of what to press, but it just confuse me
:p
stealthi eleem and seli?
Oxi whispyr seli
oxi is orange
Stealthi eleem
so buffs across the board
bacon is dogshit now
hacha still plays
It is. But it’s also not the best since sf really fucks with it
Thing is Cev does play just when he can
I use hekili I dont care
Good way to keep trakc of dots? Player or WA To know when some target are missing
cba memorising
Because his schedule is busy
!wa
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