assassination

[haughty flicker]

just not interact with them

[drifting cloud]

well ret parses in hc after rework were absurdly high

[marble hemlock]

certainly makes more sense to tune things a bit too highly and then tune it down, if its new and supposed to be exciting, than the other way around. but i think everybody should kinda expect this to not last forever if we end up performing as well as we expect

[bronze pike]

I am known helper

[drifting cloud]

so I can imagine the discord is a reflection of that

[bronze pike]

I help

[drifting cloud]

and it wasnt that great before

[hexed willow]

Pally discord is so incredibly unorganized

[haughty flicker]

i cant wait for the slow modes

[hexed willow]

Mods here are 🔥🔥🔥

[bronze pike]

I agree whole hearted with this

[marble hemlock]

cant wait for outlaw to get nerfed and all the fotm outlaw rerollers to come here next. think my internet will stop working when that happens

[bronze pike]

Cause back then ret had a skill ceiling that people couldn’t g past despite it being easy. Now everyone can eat 7000 hopo and parse orange

[bronze pike]

Eh it’s fine

[silk bane]

both. as their team gets more exprience with the trees, the reworked trees become more powerful, allowing for more powerful and complex builds that synergize well together (ignore sub for now kek). but also blizz spends time on reworked specs, they want people to reroll to them, to play them and try them out, its the time they invested and they want people to experience the work theyve done, so they usually allow these specs to be a bit too strong.

[hexed willow]

I just hope they nerf the numbers and not the gameplay

It’s so damn fun to play

[low quartz]

just been watching whispyrs new opener vid - seems he spams garotte during his dance, is that for the extra cps?

[runic hinge]

yes but only during DM if its during your KB window without dm you wont get the combo points to do that

[silk bane]

^ he means DM and dance

[low quartz]

yeah got it

ok cool cool

[dark arrow]

I watched Churpie's video (the ultimate rank 1 assassination rogue PVE Guide for WoW Dragonflight 10.2) during shadow dance in the opener he only uses garrote - envenom once then just does mut/ambush - envenom. Whispyr's guide in wowhead says to spam garrote and envenom during SD. Does it matter which you do? also do you still do only garrote - envenom in SD if you deathmark is still on cd?

[lucid rain]

not during dance

during deathmark

[blazing jewel]

garrote thing was recent

[lucid rain]

it just so happens you're dancing during deathmark

[balmy condor]

Poor churpie lmao

[blazing jewel]

whispyr has a new video that released 2hrs ago on the opener

[balmy condor]

The prophecy

@lone jungle

[blazing jewel]

[runic hinge]

Rekt

[dark arrow]

haha too funny

ok well that answers that

[blazing jewel]

churpie being held down by big sim

[runic hinge]

Big sandbag

[marble hemlock]

Making video guides

[junior aurora]

is the garrote thing a new mechanic or just something that wasn't thought of before

[dark arrow]

jeez churpie gotta get his shit together and stop spreading fake news 😛 jk

[balmy condor]

Yeah welcome to why no one makes YouTube content

[marble hemlock]

Always been like this since the introduction of dm/shrouded

We just rarely got to use it cause no dance in previous builds

[junior aurora]

ohh that makes sense

forgot dance wasn't in the build prior

[low quartz]

One day, I will have enough fingers to remember to thistle tea in the last 6s of dm

[balmy condor]

It’s been thought of plenty of times it was never worth it until the envenom buff from a couple weeks ago

[dark arrow]

totally, which sucks! I struggle to learn via text guides. Makes it so much easier to watch it in action and listen to the explanation.

[scarlet aspen]

246k is very good acutally, assuming sin is good PI target

[junior aurora]

sin is up there

top 3 i think

[main oriole]

Is it sensible to make a mutilate ambush macro?

[midnight geyser]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[balmy condor]

As opposed to the regular replacement the game does for blindside completely on its own

Or is there another situation

[main oriole]

dance

or does it do that by default? sorry returning player

[balmy condor]

You can just put it on your stealth bar

But right now we’re garroting in dance instead of ambush

[main oriole]

so you don't ambush in dance? I didn't know that, must have read your guide wrong sorry

[balmy condor]

If you don’t garrote you would ambush

[topaz echo]

Would a 4pc s2 tier set provide a flat 40% more damage to the last tick of KB if I delay it a bit after using deathmark?

[low quartz]

garotting instead of ambush actually feels great honestly

[main oriole]

on a single target?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[main oriole]

how does it work?

[balmy condor]

How does what work

You press garrote during dance and Deathmark

Gives 5cp

You finish

Press garrote

Gives 5cp

You finish

[wild tusk]

So we're tea'ing every KB now?

[main oriole]

envenom for finish

[topaz echo]

Thank you. Is it normally worth it? The delays seems to be minimal, like less than a second. Sorry, I didn't play s2 so don't know much about our rotation back then.

[balmy condor]

Yeah until they remove the interaction and then it’ll feel like shit

[balmy condor]

Yep very worth it

[hexed willow]

How come you rupture early for ST but SnD timing didn’t change for AOE?

[low quartz]

is anyone finding, that sometimes, the dance/KB macro will only trigger the dance and needs a second press?

[indigo mulch]

When you have deathmark up you apply 2 garrots right? So your getting 5cp's instead of 3cp's.

[wild tusk]

It's because dance is off the gcd but KB is on GCD. You're pressing the button while ur on GCD cooldown

[woven helm]

If I press it while I’m on gcd, yes

[low quartz]

ooof, there has to be a macro that safeguards that, right?

[keen spruce]

[woven helm]

No

[hexed willow]

Also another dumb question, do you tab target when applying multiple stealth garrotes?

[woven helm]

We call that “playing the vid ya game”

[balmy condor]

If you want to be optimal with carnage sure

[hexed willow]

Cheers

[balmy condor]

Getting a full garrote on a target that doesn’t have it

Generally better than getting a pandemic on a target that already does

3x the garrote with all the extra energy

[indigo mulch]

Dosen't tab target select the closest enemy to your character? I'm sure carnage work the same right? So if you garrote (from stealth) > tab target it will tab to the one closest to you and then that target should have had a garrote already from IC.

Or is that not how it works? D:

[woven helm]

It’s smart, the extra garrotes prioritize nongarroted targets

[indigo mulch]

Yes, but tab target dosent

[low quartz]

it would be wildly ineffecient to macro shiv and thistle tea right >.>

[balmy condor]

Correct

[balmy condor]

Yes

[low quartz]

damnit hahahaha

[hexed willow]

Yeah cause you want to use a shiv before KB but not tea before KB

[silver escarp]

What do you macro the tea with then.

?*

[balmy condor]

Nothin?

Why are we macroing tea

[hexed willow]

A timer that says <6s in KB?

[balmy condor]

Just don’t

Macro fiends smh

[low quartz]

well, for the second shiv DURING KB - macro it with thistle tea was kinda my logic, just one less thing to press

[indigo mulch]

I actually stoped using macros.

Its just more of a hassle.

[low quartz]

Im only a 4-head whispyr, I need 5-head solutions

[blazing jewel]

would miss the timing on tea

[hexed willow]

I love macros for saving keybinding space but not to eliminate pushing a button

[blazing jewel]

youd tea at 7s remaining on kb and wouldnt get the last tick of kb with tea buff

[hexed willow]

Unless it’s off the gcd that you use on cooldown

[woven helm]

But we want the game to play itself cuz smol brain

[silver escarp]

Yea it's foe saving space xD

For*

[hexed willow]

Could do a macro with tea and a modifier for crimson vial

[balmy condor]

That’s

Just two keybinds

[hexed willow]

In 1 macro

[blazing jewel]

[woven helm]

My “stuff that I drink” button lmfao

[blazing jewel]

just bind everything

[low quartz]

hahahahahahhaa 'stuff that I drink'

[indigo mulch]

But macros makes it so that you cant use it in specific situations, like you might not want to use kb and sd at the sametime in m+. The silence might be worth more than your damage.

[low quartz]

cocktail macro

[indigo mulch]

Just an example

[balmy condor]

But why

It’s still 2 keybinds

Whats that solve

[hexed willow]

It’s 1 button on your bar

[grim tangle]

macros are cool

[woven helm]

You can bind stuff to invisible bars

[indigo mulch]

Your trading 1 less button for less flexibility. I would never do that :S

[drifting cloud]

you can put in on a bar and then hide it

[woven helm]

If you have bar real estate issue that’s easy to solve

[hexed willow]

Hmm fair

[silver escarp]

Nah my problem was more of a keybinding issue xD

[hexed willow]

I guess by the definition of macro you’re referring to completely removing using a button or making it easier

[safe wigeon]

@balmy condor if we use kingsbane and shadowdance in a macro it will get all value of nightstalker?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[silver escarp]

Removing the button, not cuz it's easier but just cuz i don't have anymore space as keybind

[indigo mulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbINiYr3s48&ab_channel=Whíspyr

[safe wigeon]

yeah i was watching this

[indigo mulch]

hm ok

[modern cliff]

!wa

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[balmy condor]

It’s always amusing to me

When people go “I was watching”

And then ask a question I answered in the video on like 4 separate occasions

[grim tangle]

they didn't say rhey were listening

[woven helm]

Just watching, sound is off

[keen spruce]

why is everyone suddenly so macro pilled. We have less keybinds than last tier and assas doesn't have that many anyways

just bind your damn abilities

[torpid valve]

or tik tok brain

[balmy condor]

Like I know I FOR SURE showed the dance/kb macro at least twice

And I must’ve mentioned it at least 2 other times

[low quartz]

when we're getting snd up in our opener, doesnt matter how many cps we spend on it really, right? like a 3cp snd is fine

[balmy condor]

I even talked about the double press if you dont have your gcd

[drifting cloud]

honestly I think its ok, but when people then also ping you for the question is a bit much, yeah 1 guy who cares but you probably get this 50 times a day if not more

just ask in chat ...

[keen spruce]

no i don't like answering 1000 of the same question either

[woven helm]

Correct, just get the buff rolling, envenoms will sustain it.

[keen spruce]

[drifting cloud]

you just have nothing better to do weekend raider

[blazing jewel]

call him on the phone

and give him an emuffin smooch

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

I mean I’m not mad about it

It’s just

What did you do

[low quartz]

yeah, its a lot to absorb I think - like, definitely missed the bit about the gcd if that was in there >.<

[balmy condor]

To watch the video and then say you watched it

And ask something

It’s just interesting

[low quartz]

while youre talking, our brains are scramblin to make sense of this wild west rotation hahaha

[fallen forge]

whispyr is it worth macroing sd and kb

[low quartz]

plz confirm

[fallen forge]

[drifting cloud]

its just assa chat special start of a patch where assa seems to be strong so even if 3% of people ask you followups its gonna add up

[keen spruce]

but also if you watch video... then you have question about something... wouldn't first step be "hmm let me rewind to where he talked about this stuff maybe i missed something"

[brazen zodiac]

thanks whisp 👍

[keen spruce]

[fallen forge]

nah u gotta go straight to disc and ping whispyr himself

[keen spruce]

delete this immediately

[indigo mulch]

lmao

[drifting cloud]

I cant tell if its genuine or metagame

[keen spruce]

but yes

[blazing jewel]

DELETE

[indigo mulch]

D:

[drifting cloud]

[blazing jewel]

[indigo mulch]

I was legit curious lmao

[drifting cloud]

if you wanna know why lazyshadow just look for whisps rant

think it was around 4h ago

[keen spruce]

he's using old early PTR apl shit

[fallen forge]

no way

scana intimidation tactic

[drifting cloud]

maybe 5

[blazing jewel]

it was the duck

[indigo mulch]

100% scana.

[hexed willow]

Whispers’s rant last night was super informative

[blazing jewel]

[balmy condor]

Did someone ask about ulria’s shit ass sheet

[keen spruce]

no

[indigo mulch]

No.

[drifting cloud]

nope

[blazing jewel]

no

[hexed willow]

Nah

[keen spruce]

[fallen forge]

fr i learn so much when whispyr loses his mind

[indigo mulch]

[fallen forge]

ty whisp

no i did not ask

[hexed willow]

Gaslighting is wrong

[fallen forge]

i heard @slim hamlet did tho

[safe wigeon]

ok guys sorry i didnt know that if i ask something here people will get mad sorry sorry

[balmy condor]

No one’s mad

??

[indigo mulch]

Noone is getting mad at anything lmao

[drifting cloud]

dont play the victim card my dude its not gonna work out

[keen spruce]

we're not mad

[indigo mulch]

Just meme's

[clever sapphire]

Stop shouting whispyr

[keen spruce]

we're airing out frustrations that started long before you said anything

[fallen forge]

u better be sorry

or i will feed u a grilled cheese and mayo sandwich

[indigo mulch]

With fried duck.

[keen spruce]

[fallen forge]

[safe wigeon]

[fallen forge]

shmeeps #1 grilled cheese and mayo endorser

[drifting cloud]

how do you guys feel about whispyr making the video in the garrison

[keen spruce]

I ranked it 3rd out of 3

[hexed willow]

Ok to be fair mayo is good for grilled cheese

[keen spruce]

and described it as "edible"

[hexed willow]

It gives a good texture and doesn’t burn

[indigo mulch]

You can use mayo to create caramlization so why not o.O

[keen spruce]

he puts globs of mayo inside of the grilled cheese @hexed willow

[blazing jewel]

bro not this again

[keen spruce]

not hte outside

[sharp falcon]

my brain had a 'voldemort'-type response to reading this word

[keen spruce]

[fallen forge]

this is never gonna stop

[hexed willow]

Refuse to believe this

[blazing jewel]

realz is here

someone find the grilled cheese test run

and link the convo

[drifting cloud]

I got quoted by realz I can retire now

[sharp falcon]

lol wut

[keen spruce]

hang on

[fallen forge]

i literally made it and sent a pic of it

[sharp falcon]

how'd it go

[blazing jewel]

content is coming

[hexed willow]

But why

[fallen forge]

he loved it

fr

[sharp falcon]

who he, you made it... not you?

[fallen forge]

cause i wanted to prove i wasnt trolling

[keen spruce]

holy fk i type a lot in here

[fallen forge]

nah i made it first to prove im not trolling

[hexed willow]

Are you the kind of person who says tomato in a grilled cheese is a melt

[indigo mulch]

You made what?

[fallen forge]

and then shmeeps made it

[sharp falcon]

yes

[fallen forge]

grilled cheese and mayo

but like butter on the outside and mayo on the inside

[tropic tundra]

Tomato is bis

[keen spruce]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1173764378768719985/IMG_0858.jpg?ex=65652443&is=6552af43&hm=3ab9995b42ec59247adee0852a2f8ccecaac3fb54600f6a1e14635f6f6211145&

[sharp falcon]

a full-feature ingredient like tomato in a grilled cheese is no longer a grilled cheese, it's something else

looks great

would eat

[hexed willow]

Your bread to cheese ratio is a little off but it’s nice and crispy

[fallen forge]

i got the realz seal of approval

[keen spruce]

Okay left to right is control, mustard, mayo

control: didn't use enough cheese. exception cronch. soft bread. sour dough taste too stronk

mustard: mustard does well with sourdough. exceptional cronch. could have used more cheese. tapatio zing is nice

mayo: actually used enough cheese. exceptional cronch. sandwich just kinda "wet". flavor good. probaby too much tapatio.

"Weird but edible"

[indigo mulch]

I normally eat grilled cheese with ham and a tiny bit of mayo for caramilzation and dijon mustard inside of them.

[sharp falcon]

the brode seal of approval probably matters more

how did the mustard go

[blazing jewel]

realz which one of those grilled cheese needs 3% aura buf

[fallen forge]

whos brode

[drifting cloud]

ben brode

[hexed willow]

That’s fair. Tomato melts are amazing then

[sharp falcon]

ben brode, guy in video, former game director of hearthstone and current studio co-lead of Second Dinner, makers of Marvel Snap

[keen spruce]

mustard was pretty good. kind of clashed with the sourdough

imo

[fallen forge]

why is his personal twitter account suspended

guess i gotta instagram dm him

[indigo mulch]

Next time, use mustard inside of it with a bit of ham, then smear mayo outside to create caramlization. It should be way better.

[blazing jewel]

grilled peanut butter > grilled cheese

[fallen forge]

what the fuck

[keen spruce]

that was not within the scope of this test

[drifting cloud]

god damnit florida

[blazing jewel]

thats not even a florida thing

im from the midwest bozo

[keen spruce]

I know how to make a grilled cheese

[indigo mulch]

Nope, i'm just telling you my version of grilled sammys

;p

[keen spruce]

I was just proving to mayo man

[drifting cloud]

im always going to blame florida

[fallen forge]

me in every science experiment

[keen spruce]

than his way was bad

[royal lantern]

sure thing, gator man

[blazing jewel]

florida needs a nerf

[balmy condor]

This is nicer

I like this

[fallen forge]

sandwich discussions?

[indigo mulch]

But the idea of using mayo is great. You can even use Mayo to cook steak.

[fallen forge]

ur welcome whispyr

i keep u sane

with my insanity

[drifting cloud]

did you scream PI spreadsheet into a pillow for the last 5mins whispyr?

[fallen forge]

❤️

[balmy condor]

I’m sitting alone in a locked car

[drifting cosmos]

!wa

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[hexed willow]

So if I run out of energy, should I just go back to outlaw?

Is it safer there

[indigo mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/nickad-nick-gif-24339188

[remote shoal]

I was abt to ask a question abt this am I a menace

[drifting cloud]

@blazing jewel are you a 1split guild?

or is it 2

[blazing jewel]

we did an extra one last tier because heroic was so easy

we brought in like dungeon gear rats to fill spots

[fallen forge]

is that my new nickname now

[blazing jewel]

just 1 this tier

[balmy condor]

The engine is running and the windows are rolled up

[drifting cloud]

are you in a garage

[keen spruce]

depends on how long the lifespan of this meme goes

[fallen forge]

its been like 3 days somehow

[blazing jewel]

splits this tier are wild

most tier tokens are balanced

[balmy condor]

Sadly not

[blazing jewel]

and then you look at zenith

with 900 lizards

[drifting cloud]

yeah we went back down to 2 lizards

since the 2 extra lizards were previously dh/rogue

[blazing jewel]

ya I think most guilds are planning 2

[drifting cloud]

so its ok

did you watch drattys comp vid

[blazing jewel]

no

[drifting cloud]

he put 2 dev 2 aug in it

[tropic tundra]

[sharp falcon]

most are guessing comp for specifically fyrakk right

not just general 'bis' raid-wide or anything

[drifting cloud]

yeah

[sharp falcon]

hm

[balmy condor]

[blazing jewel]

can only guess so much about fyrakk but yea most prep for last 2-3 bosses

[royal lantern]

my "bis raidwide" is assa

[sharp falcon]

overall i think 2 enhance is pretty likely, but specifically fyrakk idk

[blazing jewel]

[indigo mulch]

Isent fyrakk heavy ST with 3 target cleave?

[fallen forge]

oh wow didn’t know enhance is that good rn

[sharp falcon]

most speculation ive seen has only had 1 enhance

it does weight comp slightly heavily more towards melee and tbh idk if that will fly on fyrakk

[raven echo]

Enhance is good + melee is good so double dip

[blazing jewel]

ive seen some setup with 2dh 2rogue 2enh

[royal lantern]

tbf, enh is cranking for a long time now

[blazing jewel]

2wft groups

[balmy condor]

1 enhance 1 havoc 1 warrior 14 Assassination rogues amen the gates of the promised lands open before me

[drifting cloud]

what are even good wft tanks, just prot warr?

[raven echo]

Where are the 2636 aug evokers?

[drifting cloud]

and you know they arent playing that

[indigo mulch]

The engine gas is killing him, call 911.

[robust axle]

Which Assasination spec variation would be the go-tp for cleaving?

[royal lantern]

isnt wft tank a meme cus it sims them with going 100% offensive, which is just...not what a tank in a fight does

[heady moss]

does anyone know if there's a way to hide certain dots/debuffs on targets? like atrophic/crippling/amplifying/deadly/internal etc? using plater or default

[balmy condor]

Why run aug when you could run ANOTHER Assassination rogue

[indigo mulch]

Outlaw most likley.

[raven echo]

True

[royal lantern]

st, replace internal bleeding with spatter

[grand trail]

So we spam garrotes in shadow dance now?

Thats kinda akwaed

[woven helm]

I’d recommend finishers too

[blazing jewel]

realz is just trying to save spriest by making their pi op on us

looking out for the spriest mains

[royal lantern]

huh

what did i miss

[drifting cloud]

watch the video!

[balmy condor]

If Aug is buffing like 25% of an assassination rogues damage why would you bring an Aug when you could bring another assassination rogue to do 100% damage

Wake the fuck up

[royal lantern]

i just woke up and im working rn

[drifting cloud]

maybe it deserves a pin whispyr not sure what the meta is

[royal lantern]

give me a tl:dr lol

[blazing jewel]

[woven helm]

Spam garrote in shadow dance

[balmy condor]

The meta is “wowhead guide updates go read lole”

[low quartz]

I wonder if in aoe, an earlier dance with garotte spam will become the mroe efficient way to spread ruptures and fan of knives etc now

[stiff kernel]

What is the synergy from doing a low CP envenom before entering cooldown window?

[indigo mulch]

Did you by any chance have a couple of drinks good sir?

[royal lantern]

wdym Spam

like, instead of ambush garrote or what lol

[drifting cloud]

doesnt say that in the pins!

[woven helm]

Poison procs good, dropping slice n dice bad

[balmy condor]

Having uptime on envenom into cooldowns is good

Kingsbane + envenom stonk

[woven helm]

There’s a whole video on this, boy are you in luck

[stiff kernel]

Gotcha

[balmy condor]

Kingsbane + not envenom stonk

Less stonk

More bad

More stonk

[dusty trellis]

Send video

[balmy condor]

Less bad

[haughty flicker]

Dm+sd use garrote as builder bc of shrouded suffocation 5cp big good naisu garrote mommy

[elfin forge]

Where can i get the absolutely latest custom APL for the new opener on WoWhead?

[balmy condor]

Nowhere

[woven helm]

New pi sheet soon??

[balmy condor]

APL will be defaulted into simc once it’s ready

[royal lantern]

well yeha, thats all i wanted too know, garrote instead of ambush and thats it

[balmy condor]

I’m sick of 29636 different APLs flying around

[fallen forge]

Guys how do you make an apl

Asking for a friend

[slate crown]

Gar amb rup snd mut mut env dm shiv dance kb gar env gar env gar env shiv mut tea mut env mut vanish amb rupt gar env. I think that’s all the gcds idk I’m in bedge why u wake up at 1am

[stiff kernel]

just ask chatgpt to make one

[balmy condor]

Spreadsheeters get to use an official APL or face the wrath of god

[haughty flicker]

It’s 2 am not 1 am silly

[fallen forge]

I thought was lucid dreaming when I read that

[elfin forge]

i'm not a spreadsheeter 😦

[grand trail]

this garrote spam make me sad

[royal lantern]

its 8am you na brain

[slate crown]

Am I right now? Fuck what’s happening

[fallen forge]

Spreadshitters amirite

[haughty flicker]

I wonder how successful I could be if I just made up random shit next expac about hero talents and made it into a spreadsheet

And just spread it to other discords

[balmy condor]

I’m usually not one to bully content creators

But spreadsheet warriors

Good god

[austere moss]

is garrot spam a thing?

[fallen forge]

Whispyr why not just pin ur video

[low quartz]

yes theres a video go watch whyspyr (maybe worth a pin) hahaha

[balmy condor]

Cause I’m not home

[haughty flicker]

It’s more fun this way

[fallen forge]

Oh right ur in the car

[balmy condor]

Yes

[grand trail]

okay that garrote garrtoe thing is only during deathmark

no during casual shadowdance?

[keen spruce]

yes

[indigo mulch]

yes, you get 5cps instead of 3.

[keen spruce]

casual dance is the same as before

[grand trail]

ahh

big brain

[fallen forge]

Only ranked dance

[grand trail]

and the opener change again

make my head hurt

the garrote ambush ruptuire

my muscle memory is gone

[slate crown]

It’ll grow back

[fallen forge]

same bestie

[indigo mulch]

[fallen forge]

We Grey parse together

[indigo mulch]

Why is it so random. Sometimes its 1mil and sometimes it 1.3mil

[fallen forge]

Christ that’s big

[indigo mulch]

oh crits

[slate crown]

Critical strikes

[fallen forge]

What wa is that

[austere moss]

isn't it Garrote, blade dance, ambush, rupture?

[haughty flicker]

Blade dance

[grand trail]

they pushed update to wow, surely all bugs fixed

[fallen forge]

Blade dance

[runic hinge]

Blade dance

[steel spire]

Ayo is that kb dmg tracker

[blazing jewel]

I will draw a MS paint of realz with a grilled cheese and tomato "melt" if the 2p is fixed

[indigo mulch]

https://wago.io/PFTo3o6Ug

[steel spire]

Sheeeeeesh

[fallen forge]

Ahh nice tyty

[austere moss]

slice n dice, you knew what i meant lol

[indigo mulch]

@slate crown has a good one aswell @fallen forge

[fallen forge]

with mayo?

[blazing jewel]

no

[fallen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-leave-pepe-frog-bye-upset-im-out-gif-17020829

[keen spruce]

they're literally complaining about a new opener. and you're correcting them with the old opener

[austere moss]

did it change in the last 24 hours that i checked it?

[keen spruce]

yes

[fallen forge]

Fayte how could u

Smh

[devout mist]

thats last tick of KB?

[grand trail]

okay i have to force rupture into vanish

[austere moss]

forgive me for not staying up to date.

[indigo mulch]

Do you guys manage to get your first rupture into the subterfuge window?

[runic hinge]

Jeeze a whole 24 hours behind?

[keen spruce]

one day ya'll gonna learn to either have this discord open at all times

or have wowhead open 24/7 auto refreshing every 5 minutes.

[runic hinge]

Where have you been

[drifting cloud]

24, more like 8!

[keen spruce]

smh

[indigo mulch]

No. Its all of Kb's damage.

[fallen forge]

Can’t do wowhead and wow at the same time sadge

[keen spruce]

is your computer powered by a george forman grill?

[indigo mulch]

I cannot for the life of me get rupture into the subterfudge window at reliably

like

[fallen forge]

If it were then mayo stonks would go up

[indigo mulch]

Sometimes i get it and sometimes i don't

[keen spruce]

?

like the first one?

[indigo mulch]

yeah

[keen spruce]

right when you open

[indigo mulch]

yep

[keen spruce]

it's just gar, ambush, rupture

how u messin that up

[devout mist]

just spam harder

[keen spruce]

[indigo mulch]

I DON'T KNOW

[keen spruce]

click faster

[indigo mulch]

I'm TRYING!

T_T

[keen spruce]

what's your ping?

[slate crown]

Ngl wowhead slows my browser down every time. Idn wowhead specifically as a website does this, no other website does, if I leave wowhead open for awhile anecdotally I feel like my browser starts to churn and cpu usage from browser goes up a bunch

[haughty flicker]

Dude plays on several thousand ping

[indigo mulch]

Boomer brain

[keen spruce]

send clip

[indigo mulch]

😦

[devout mist]

CLICKING!

[haughty flicker]

Ok nvm he’s just bad

Rip

[indigo mulch]

[haughty flicker]

I have faith

[keen spruce]

you can click a keyboard key

[haughty flicker]

You will get it

[devout mist]

i usually press mine

[keen spruce]

send clip

[slate crown]

It’s 3 buttons in a row should be in subt every time

[indigo mulch]

Clip how? 😦

[devout mist]

unless you're talking on screen keyboard

[indigo mulch]

Me no understand

[keen spruce]

are your keys not clicky? do you have smooshy keys?

[haughty flicker]

I raided with a warlock once who clicked all his buttons

[devout mist]

nah they are loud af but my action is to press

[royal lantern]

followed by mut->snd->mut 4cp->envneom right

[haughty flicker]

He was not the worst person in the guild either

[indigo mulch]

Based on what you showed earlier i think we have the same keyboard lmao

[devout mist]

clicking a keyboard sounds wrong

[junior aurora]

average warlock

[keen spruce]

well you press your mouse button too

[devout mist]

stop switching the terminology

u click the mouse and press the keyboard

[junior aurora]

what about mousebuttons

[indigo mulch]

Licking those.

[devout mist]

oh, here we goooo

[haughty flicker]

How does a duck use a mouse

[junior aurora]

very carefully

[keen spruce]

@indigo mulch describe how you are doing your opener.
like do you
garrote
wait
ambush
wait
rupture

[indigo mulch]

Absolutly not

[haughty flicker]

I’m getting more and more suspicious the shmeeps may not be an actual duck

[drifting cloud]

do you have bomb bound on ambush

[keen spruce]

or do you gargargargargarbushbushbushbushbushruprupruprupprupp

cuz it should be the 2nd

[indigo mulch]

like that lmao

[keen spruce]

[devout mist]

yep, there is no hope for u

[haughty flicker]

Is bomba macrod to something

[keen spruce]

i mean u get 3 globals with subterfuge

[devout mist]

i recommend a long session of solitaire

[keen spruce]

almost 4 actually

[indigo mulch]

Oh wait

[devout mist]

we saw that

[indigo mulch]

I'm stupid. D:

LMAO

[devout mist]

bomb?

[indigo mulch]

No, i've been doing gar > snd > ambush > rup

[austere moss]

so still using vanish on the last three seconds of kingsbane in the no dance opener?

[indigo mulch]

no wonder i had trouble getting it in.

[devout mist]

[runic hinge]

[indigo mulch]

Its not a huge loss i think but still ;C

[keen spruce]

i literally asked you

[indigo mulch]

SHH

[devout mist]

#assaDontNeedRupture

[keen spruce]

[indigo mulch]

SHHHHH

[keen spruce]

yeah

[haughty flicker]

muscle memory too op

[indigo mulch]

yes :C

[keen spruce]

wait so were

you

nvm

it don't matter u figured it out

[indigo mulch]

lol

I feel stupid now 😄

[keen spruce]

it happens to everyone

except me i'm perfect

but everyone else

[indigo mulch]

You are when you are pefectly cooked.

Fried in oil with some veggies on the side.

[keen spruce]

[indigo mulch]

Ah, this feels much better. I'm just so used SnDing on my first cps

;X

I'm curious to why the Deathmark interaction with garrote is that you get 5 points instead of 6. Why is that? 😮

[junior aurora]

shrouded suffocation is +2 combo points

deathmark puts 2 garrotes up

so shrouded suffocation applies twice for +4 combo points

garrote gives 1 normally

[indigo mulch]

True

i figured sicnce it duplicates it would be 6 cp's and not 5cp but i guess it makes sense.

[low quartz]

wait - on wowhead it mentions that during dance, we're basically just spamming out envenoms - do we no longer rerupture on our second dance finisher?

[haughty flicker]

no need

you do a big rupture at the start now

and refresh in vanish at the end

[low quartz]

Oh I seeeee ok ok

I guess during our filler dance, we still reapplu rupture tho

[stiff kernel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965773461450530867/1173890952285401098/assrogueburst.mp4?ex=65659a24&is=65532524&hm=e694ec1b3a9ccf6cbbdb9c05874ffeb539d19ecd9c17ec6dfb5c9befa826cdf6&

2.5m dps is still 2.5m dps even if its only for a millisecond right?

[austere moss]

so with the no dance build, am I to assume we still save vanish for the last 3 seconds of Kingsbane outside the opener?

[elfin forge]

Is this intended or bug?

[drifting cloud]

intended at this point I guess

[elfin forge]

what software you use to make this? Record + edit (if any editing, like the duration of the clip)

[stiff kernel]

I just use shadowplay, and then use ffmpeg to crop the video to the duration I want

no edits just raw

[elfin forge]

cool ty

[stiff kernel]

np

[keen spruce]

at the end of the opener yeah

[austere moss]

i meant after the opener

[low quartz]

in the same way we dont overwrite a buffed garotte, do we not overwrite the buffed rupture?

[runic hinge]

Correct. You wait for it to fall off

[drifting cloud]

do the same thing every 2min

[keen spruce]

you won't have vanish back until your next large deathmark burst window

[steel ridge]

has the changed embersoul trinket been implemented yet?

[keen spruce]

it always goes in the same place

[austere moss]

i mean they are both 2 minutes, i'm likely to delay deathmark anyway XD

[keen spruce]

well yeah that's what I mean, they're the same CD length

so it just goes in the same place

when you do your deathmark at 2m

2m deathmark is the same as opener deathmark

[haughty flicker]

and 6m deathmark is even better

[austere moss]

assuming their used on cooldown like i'm suppose to be XD, but understood.

[indigo mulch]

the 6min excute window is big bratwurst burst

[haughty flicker]

if for some reason you dont use dm on cd then just dont use vanish until then too

theres no reason for them to ever get unsynced

maybe if your opener gets cut off early due to bs

[indigo mulch]

Thats a lot of crits

[haughty flicker]

but there are ways to shorten your opener to prevent that too

[marble whale]

So now, we have different burst windows for DM and non DM KB?

Rotations

[viscid wagon]

Are we always spending cp on env during shadowdance not rupture? Seems like Wowhead only specifies to use rupture during vanish window when "stealthed".

[oak tangle]

@balmy condor how do we go about having this edited to be 300?

[balmy condor]

Single Target Opener Changes

Video
Wowhead is updated

Edit <t:1699952340:R>. Confirmed Bug, no Garrote Spamming during dance, pack it up

[balmy condor]

edit it and then send it to me and I'll add it

[blazing jewel]

[haughty flicker]

.08% holy pog

rupture up huge

[solemn axle]

!bis

[balmy condor]

crank the iterations up

get that shit out of margin

[solemn axle]

aw there isnt a bis command, rip

[balmy condor]

yeah

cause bis is a dumb concept

[solemn axle]

whatever you say

[balmy condor]

[viscid wagon]

I didn't see the "Stuff to Consider" section on the site.

Thanks

[main tangle]

Sin too galaxy brain, must play boomkin instead

[fair ingot]

you have to try !raid bis or !m+ bis.
Thats the juicy info you want.. 😄 😄

[balmy condor]

yeh the stuff to consider section is just fighting the questions people will ask in here 250 times

[solemn axle]

At this point 💀

[balmy condor]

average wowhead reader doesn't really need to be confused about "you can do other stuff than what the guide says"

[viscid wagon]

It's a nice addtion for sure.

[viral meadow]

any reason we can't macro SD > KB together

[balmy condor]

ah

that's the one I forgot

[viscid wagon]

That's another good question lol

[solemn axle]

fck it why not

[royal lantern]

non dm dance is still like dance plays rn yes?

[viscid wagon]

The youtube video is suuuuper appreciated btw

[viral meadow]

nevermind I just searched.

[balmy condor]

nice nice nice

[dusty trellis]

can you share wa that shows tea and invis timer when you kb ?

[fair ingot]

I personally have it together in macro and both seperate in my bars. For regular burst you would always use it together anyways but I feel like there are situations where I would use dance without KB or delayed in M+. Being able to dance to refresh/spread big garrotes while having kb for a beefy add after or god knows what situations you might want to seperate those 2 I feel like, eventho most of the time you use them at the same time ^^

[stiff kernel]

Just got in bed, I can tomorrow yeah I gotta fix the shiv aura I just made it like 10 seconds prior to the video real quick but let me fix it tomorrow and I’ll link it

[sharp falcon]

uhhhhhh

[cunning basin]

I'm so ready to do some raiding and m+ tomorrow 😩

Greetings

[dusty trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/rebecca-jack-black-ill-be-waiting-half-stance-funny-gif-17917419

[haughty flicker]

realz are you not na

go to sleep

[sharp falcon]

old mistakes, come to haunt

[runic hinge]

Renown check

[sharp falcon]

ur not my mom

7 on both

[cunning basin]

Mood

[haughty flicker]

i already learned the new opener realz you cant change shrouded now

[royal lantern]

sneaky update

[sharp falcon]

garrote duplicated by dm shouldnt count as an additional skill use for shrouded suff combo

[junior aurora]

oh no

[blazing jewel]

[royal lantern]

tell me ylu fix it realz

pls

dont wanna learn a new opener

[sharp falcon]

idk when but bug yes

[humble ginkgo]

just nerf it

[royal lantern]

fuck yeha, not gonna bother then

[junior aurora]

just make it supposed to happen and its -1 bug to fix

[humble ginkgo]

the entire spec

[cunning basin]

Giga brain

[haughty flicker]

i mean yeah it didnt really make sense

[blazing jewel]

realz if the bug isnt fixed in exactly 43.8hrs we will not be able to kill mythic gnarlroot

[sharp falcon]

it was quietly innocuous for the most part but warping cooldown rotations around it is kind of the breaking point, has to be addressed

[cunning basin]

Bug? Feature 👍

[runic hinge]

Oh no

[royal lantern]

it somewhat does, but also doesnt, and is kinda stupid

[low quartz]

my damage inbetween cds seems really mediocre - mainly just keeping my dots up, trying to keep high uptime on envenom, anything Im missing to help boost it up a bit?

[haughty flicker]

thats just how spec is

[solemn axle]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[cunning basin]

Sin is like unholy dk now so that is intended gameplay

CDs = big dam no CDs = smol dam

[haughty flicker]

its just a little spiky

one might say

[steel ridge]

so the entire 5cp garrote thing will be gone soon(tm)?

[sharp falcon]

no timeline, but its 'not good'

[blazing jewel]

compensation buff surely

[sharp falcon]

no

[steel ridge]

yeah its weird for sure

[blazing jewel]

without the rupture tech

we will be under ww for sure

[low quartz]

wtf did blizzard say something?

[steel ridge]

spamming gar env gar env gar env for 6 seconds is kinda meh 😄

[haughty flicker]

he is blizzard

lol

[sharp falcon]

checking blue post... no nope

nothin

[potent dawn]

[cunning basin]

[junior aurora]

it makes sense realz doesnt have blue name so he cant blue post

[cunning basin]

Mfw they don't know

Based and true

[sharp falcon]

i cannot yeah. Good twin can, i seent it

[sharp viper]

Not a sub main then

[junior aurora]

sorry i dont trust that zlaer guy

[royal lantern]

wait, you are the evil twin?

[junior aurora]

he’s shifty

[sharp falcon]

100%

[potent dawn]

Always has been

[cunning basin]

Evil twin makes rogue stuff yeah that plays

[steel ridge]

zlaer, the good brother?

[hardy dagger]

[blazing jewel]

good twin would never call a grilled cheese a melt

[royal lantern]

why is the good twin still alive then

[sharp falcon]

i did not call a grilled cheese a melt

[royal lantern]

kinda shity for a evil twin, ngl

[blazing jewel]

[runic hinge]

If you have anything but cheese and bread it’s a melt

[haughty flicker]

Zlaer would never do this to us

[low quartz]

if they touch our cp generation but dont even look at DH imma pickup arson as a hobby

[haughty flicker]

brother

[potent dawn]

I got news for you

[haughty flicker]

it aint that big

[cunning basin]

I got news for you

[haughty flicker]

yesterday we didnt even do this

[cunning basin]

^

[viral meadow]

ty ty

[sharp falcon]

yeah... seems like an overreaction

[humble ginkgo]

!sims

[prisma monolith]

Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html

[torn atlas]

Hasn't shrouded suff always done that since we got DM?

[cunning basin]

Arson as a hobby on its own ain't that bad

[junior aurora]

true i like the rogue dev but that dh dev is on something

[cunning basin]

But do it because you love it

Yanno?

[royal lantern]

yes, but has not been relevant

now it is

[potent dawn]

Will have to talk to the guy who does DH about that then. Never seen him anywere

[runic hinge]

Yes. But you weren’t spamming garrote or evenom because we didn’t have dance

[cunning basin]

[blazing jewel]

dh just too stinky

[pure sail]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[junior aurora]

sorry i only play edgy elves

cant play nelf or belf

[cunning basin]

I've been dwarfpilled by m+

[haughty flicker]

all elves can be edgy elves now

dark ranger questline op

[potent dawn]

Just getting ready for next XPac

[cunning basin]

My login screen used to be beautiful blood elves and void elves

Now it's a bunch of fucking dwarves

[junior aurora]

realz when you adding murloc DHs

[sharp falcon]

fun to joke but good time to remind it has never been a 1-person assignment. Just cuz im willing to chat, no reason to overly credit me for things, good or bad

[potent dawn]

Oh 100% All around very much a team effort

[sharp falcon]

if things are good, im not your savior... if things are bad, im not your enemy

[cunning basin]

We love that you talk to us tho it makes us feel better

[sharp falcon]

just a chatter =p

[blazing jewel]

yea we all know the warlock dev made dh have chaos brand just to indirectly buff warlock

its factual and proven

[haughty flicker]

true

[royal lantern]

the only enemy is Pi and Augmentation

[cunning basin]

KEK

[sharp viper]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-gif-16014621646762423245

[potent dawn]

Big fan of the chatter!

[cunning basin]

Based as fuck tbh

[runic hinge]

What if

Aug was delete

[blazing jewel]

📈

[haughty flicker]

i think aug is a cool idea

and i refuse to apologize for it

[empty hinge]

Sounds good

[junior aurora]

give PI to augs and then delete them

[sharp viper]

by the way, what happened to ambush during dance? what did I miss

[hardy dagger]

Ah so 2p is getting fixed

[royal lantern]

but well, the knowledge that its on the "will get fixed at some point" just made it better for me, will just not bother with the garrote spam now lol

[empty hinge]

If only priests can get pi and aug is deleted im fine

[grand trail]

well i gotta abuse till it last

¨thats my nature

[potent dawn]

Says who

[cunning basin]

FUCK NO I SCREWED UP THE REACTION

[thorny onyx]

So how much of a gain is this garrote spam compared to what I did 15 hours ago (garrote, env, ambush, rupture…. Etc.)

[haughty flicker]

abuse those target dummies

[indigo mulch]

How big is the team that worked on the rework? 😮

[sharp falcon]

i think they're saying a lil less than 1%? maybe i misunderstood

[runic hinge]

.8

[pure sail]

anyone with a kingsbane timeline weakaura? whysprr has one in his latest video. appreciated

[cunning basin]

Likely less than 1%

[royal lantern]

if you use garrote during dance now, realz will personaly bann you for abusing exploits

[cunning basin]

From my napkin math

[royal lantern]

beware

[blazing jewel]

if you dont do it you will not kill heroic igira

rip bozos

[cunning basin]

Did that guy just use garrote in dance? RATTLE EM BOYS

[thorny onyx]

Cheers.

[haughty flicker]

i dont think he said what the gain was anywhere

[hardy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[viscid wagon]

Oh shit @sharp falcon It's been a minute man. We did arena in BC classic. Optimist.

[royal lantern]

break their kneecaps

[potent dawn]

Jokes on you I'll prob play Outlaw for that one XD

[cunning basin]

That'll teach em to abuse an exploit for less than 1% DPS gain

[indigo mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/suou-tsukasa-tsukasa-suou-gif-26546070

[sharp falcon]

gg

[thorny onyx]

Btw is this applied in scenarios like 3 target bosses?

With IC?

[balmy condor]

despair

[potent dawn]

Just to tasty of a cleave fight to not

[haughty flicker]

whispyr just made the video

[sharp falcon]

do you really want this

[haughty flicker]

and its already outdated

[cunning basin]

updates guide whew finished
sees this
Painge

[potent dawn]

Something something likes updating the wowhead opener......

[royal lantern]

the suffering of a guide writer

[sharp viper]

realz just helping whispyr pump out more youtube content

more ad revenue

[cunning basin]

...based? Maybe?

[indigo mulch]

So DM giving you 5 cp is a bug then? 😮

Rip video

[cunning basin]

Painge

[royal lantern]

its a weird interaction that somehow makes sense, but also doesnt really makes sense, but was never really relevant

now its relevant

[white orchid]

That actually felt nice to get to do a 1:1 spender/finisher inside cds, knew it was too good to be true

[fleet pagoda]

the leech hotfix is such a feelsgoodman

[low quartz]

yep, for a second our opener almost had a rhythm to it - felt like bongo cat

[haughty flicker]

i like it but

[sharp falcon]

sub -->

[indigo mulch]

Its a bug right? So i shouldnt bother learning it should i? 😄

[haughty flicker]

its also like 3 globals every 2 minutes

with or without it not much changes

[cunning basin]

Everything has a rhythm to it cuz rogue is 1 sec gcd

[sharp falcon]

though tbh even sub, sometimes, is more than 1 finisher in a row during cd

[silk bane]

nono, we have our own civil war going on in sub, no need to get civilians involved yet :p

[marble whale]

changes the burst window completely no? normally we rupture inside dance, with that wi rupture with vanish or am i wrong?

[cunning basin]

Is it about dust

[silk bane]

[blazing jewel]

Dust is fun

[balmy condor]

"do I want this" no
"do I want to undo all the work that I just did to make the sims work and the guides updated and the muscle memory" also no
"is it warping" yes
"is it warping to a degree that it needs to be addressed posthaste" probably not

I mean like realistically it's a funny bug and logically it shouldn't be giving 5cp right? But it's a 0.3% optimization overall compared to the regular ambush stuff, people don't hate it, it makes the opener a bit more scripted and easier on the fingers, If we play carnage it would work better as well cause gar->finish->gar->finish is good with carnage. I'm not really convinced it's a huge alarm bell. There's a pay off, no instant damage, but you get more cp idk it's not a "destructive" bug in that regard. Only happens once every 2 min, inside of dance, inside of deathmark? World ain't gonna end over it

[silk bane]

im telling stealthi what u said

[blazing jewel]

It’s okay eleem has my back

[silk bane]

we got dk too. ez 3v2

[blazing jewel]

We recruit realz

[royal lantern]

wtf how can you still stand

[silk bane]

thats not fair he actually knows how to pvp

[balmy condor]

we've had much more warping and much more defining mechanics before

that went unanswered

we weren't using finishers for a while in nyalotha with echoing blades

that lived the whole tier

obviously the past isn't an excuse for the present

not trying to go down that path

but on the grand scale of things that are important to fix, this is pretty low imo

[grand trail]

tier set was surealy already fixed

[sharp viper]

what has higher priority?

[cunning basin]

[indigo mulch]

[potent dawn]

2pc bug.....

[runic hinge]

2 piece

[balmy condor]

guys stop

Idk what realz has on his to-do list post-it taped to his monitor, obviously "fix important bug" is on there

[leaden sundial]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[haughty flicker]

let the adults speak

[drifting cloud]

here some warlock tech whispyr

[potent dawn]

wasnt directed at realz was more just answering the question asked before

[balmy condor]

I wish that were me

[fleet pagoda]

the difference in dps in openers is trivial? so i'm not trolling by just playing the old one?

[sharp viper]

I'm just asking out of curiousity because I am unaware of the bugs on live

[balmy condor]

you're trolling by a margin of 0.3%

[fleet pagoda]

bless

[haughty flicker]

personally i'd gkick you

[cunning basin]

Wow is a big game with a lot of moving parts, it's not like any bugs occurring are unknown, but there's lots of stuff to do so don't get too worked up over stuff.

[leaden sundial]

Hi whispyr. You are using Whispyr's Afenar Edit in current videos right ?

[indigo mulch]

Is realz even the person that actually fixes all teh bugs? I would think its some dev doing stuffs like that o.O

[royal lantern]

!w

[haughty flicker]

lol

[royal lantern]

!wa

[blazing jewel]

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[royal lantern]

his wa is there

@leaden sundial

[sharp falcon]

if it's any consolation, i'm sorry it sat this way for so long in the first place

but from where i sit it's exactly the type warping small-efficiency that players will feel compelled to do despite it being a small min-max. The stress it causes/will cause vastly outstrips any benefit to be had for something that shouldnt exist, and eventually wont. Again, really it's my fault it stayed like this long enough to become a problem instead of letting it survive since it wasn't hurting anything yet... my fault, but ripping the bandaid off is probably best, if that's possible (i'll be checking on that soon as i can)

[leaden sundial]

I already wrote it second ago

[indigo mulch]

Even if he fixes all the bugs it prob has to go through a milion checks before it actually makes it into live.

[leaden sundial]

thank you all for answers 😄

[cunning basin]

[balmy condor]

after the fix to lethal dose there's two kinda weird ones:

• 2 piece, which seems to be fixed on PTR
• internal bleeding using tooltip data of an older internal bleeding but doing different damage (not sure if the fix is making the tooltip match the damage or the damage match the tooltip)

and uhhhhhhh

that's pretty much it

[balmy condor]

yep, makes sense

hit the control z button boys

[indigo mulch]

oh, 2p is fixed on the PTR? 😮 i didn't know that D:

[sharp falcon]

IB dmg is correct at this point afaik, and if tooltip points to the wrong spell that's a bug worth cleaning up

[cunning basin]

I do just wanna say regardless of trolling and memes having someone communicative doing stuff for the class is super cool and super appreciated

[raven echo]

^this

[vapid skiff]

oh yes its amazing

[indigo mulch]

Well then, if 2p is fixed on the PTR i'm guessing its coming next week then O:

[balmy condor]

last I checked all the tooltip numbers were pulling data from the 150k spell id IB not the 300 something thousand new spell id from dragonflight

[raven echo]

More like tomorrow I assume

[silk bane]

uh mr youtuber? where video? your old video told me to spam garr but uh fake news? its already been atelast 2 minutes. where sims?

[cunning basin]

Told my spriest in raid realz talks to us in here and he's like "wtf must be nice" it is bro you have no idea lmao

[grand trail]

so when we got to see fixed sims pog

[balmy condor]

154904 being referenced in the tooltip of 381628

numbers

[royal lantern]

"nice? you didnt saw his grilled cheese wtf"

[sharp falcon]

there was also a bug with IB where ruptures cast during DM were overwriting your combo point-scaled IB with a 0-point IB from the duplicated application. "Big" IB could get overwritten this way regardless of whether you ruptured before DM or during

[runic hinge]

I can’t believe I wasted 22 minutes learning a new opener that I would probably mess up 15 times tomorrow.

[cunning basin]

I love seeing things like this when people try to tell me sims mean anything rn

[balmy condor]

I'm gonna tell churpie to un-delete his video

[cunning basin]

People pressed af over sims

[sharp falcon]

but idk if that one was verified and/or deployed yet

[raven echo]

Whispyr time for a new video, your latest one had a nice lifespan of an hour

[chrome harbor]

Sims are the gospel

[indigo mulch]

Oh noes. Poor churpie if he made another one

lmao

[balmy condor]

he's asleep he'll be fine

[indigo mulch]

[cunning basin]

[sharp falcon]

was this known? kind of stumbled upon it when investigating other IB concerns

[midnight mist]

!whispyr

[oak tangle]

but is outlaw or sin better?

[indigo mulch]

!whispyr

[balmy condor]

yes

[indigo mulch]

moar

[cunning basin]

Havoc, next question

[sharp falcon]

ok

[balmy condor]

wasn't talked about much cause the impact was minor

but it was on a radar

[buoyant kraken]

lol 😄

[blazing jewel]

we poison bombs radius upped to 16

[balmy condor]

now the question is do I still have sims that don't garrote spam to revert back to

[shrewd night]

What are our guidewriters doing, guide is already outdated wtf

[cunning basin]

Rogue is actually Z tier for zero representation cuz it's so bad 🤓

[shrewd night]

[blazing jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/meow-cat-gif-27161697

[indigo mulch]

Oh yeah, we need pitchforks

[shrewd night]

[indigo mulch]

and torches

[runic hinge]

Without the garrote spam are we still rupturing in subturfuge?

[cunning basin]

Wait who are we angry mobbing at? Is it whispyr or someone else?

[blazing jewel]

sheinar

[cunning basin]

I just want to carry a pitchfork it sounds fun

[blazing jewel]

because he plays feral

[balmy condor]

jokes on realz, I'll just talent into carnage and then gar -> env spam anyways because now it cleaves

he can take my bug

[cunning basin]

Based

[balmy condor]

but he will never take my rotation

[haughty flicker]

based af

[indigo mulch]

[oak tangle]

"IC removed from the game"

[cunning basin]

LMAO

[shrewd night]

Youll never catch me meow as loudly as I do here

[sharp falcon]

IC... sigh

[indigo mulch]

[blazing jewel]

spatter now a choice node with deathmark

[indigo mulch]

lmao

[cunning basin]

Holy fuck

[true rapids]

IC renamed to Random Violence

[blazing jewel]

that will show whispyr