#assassination

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runic hinge
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Avoiding FH for this reason

slim hamlet
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monka on swirly or frontal packs tho

keen spruce
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I think that LOSING acro feels better once you realize it's costing you IC garrotes for half of the dungeon

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cuz you're standing too far away

runic hinge
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Just pay attention to where you're standing

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DUH

static glacier
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xd

slim hamlet
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Losing acro on sin is such a non issue

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spatter and ic doesn't work with it anyways

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90% of our aoe

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(not actually 90% but u know)

keen spruce
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actually feels better w/o

static glacier
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jokes aside I do agree

runic hinge
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I always do that on 5 packs

keen spruce
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no that's my 3head method

runic hinge
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even if It would save me a gcd to not

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Guess I'm lazy

keen spruce
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not even a method just extreme laziness

slim hamlet
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5 and 7 packs it's fine right

keen spruce
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4/5/7 it's fine

humble ginkgo
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when do you press tea in opener?

slim hamlet
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oh yea 4 too

static glacier
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that, hiding behind rock and the stun circle ice dragon packs in halls of infusion were the main points I felt loss of acro

slim hamlet
keen spruce
slim hamlet
keen spruce
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don't do that person who asked btw

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plz don't do that

slim hamlet
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I mean if the 30 sec sim tells me to

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surely thats the best opener possible

static glacier
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dmg breakdown, KB woulda been higher if it wasn't a low key where every 3rd/4th KB doesn't get to finish cus mob blows up

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also I mighta just forgotten to CT on a pack or two starege

slim hamlet
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Feel like KB did a loooooot for a m+

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spatter did nuffing tho

static glacier
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was 147 overall

slim hamlet
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oh yea and ct i guess

static glacier
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17 calls smh

slim hamlet
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What key level?

static glacier
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halls*

slim hamlet
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oh

static glacier
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veeeery low

slim hamlet
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Suprised demise didn't do more

runic hinge
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Halls was so hard to kb in

tame cloak
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are u utilizing 4set still?

runic hinge
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everything just dies

static glacier
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I just decided to send

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like f it, i wanna dance for bleeds, so mightaswell dance kb

slim hamlet
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Bro I was thinking about halls of valor

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for a good 15 seconds before I remembered thats a year ago

runic hinge
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Here's the key, tell your group you're gonna mark a target to kb so don't touch, then KB someting else while they focus down that one

static glacier
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oh my god

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he's figured it out

runic hinge
slim hamlet
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Nah I will unironically do that

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when playing with my guildies

static glacier
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on the plus side, sin is unironically fantastic as blowing up a prio target now

slim hamlet
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If I ever say "dont attack that, it will gain me dmg" they will all INSTANTLY attack that

runic hinge
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Yeah, same, gonna fool the guildies

static glacier
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I was all depressed

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thinking i'd put in 1m into crit phials

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at 315 buy price and they dropped to like 270

slim hamlet
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Surely no panic selling

static glacier
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then I checked the mail and realised I got them at 215

slim hamlet
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oh

static glacier
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legit spent a week hallucinating that i'd just burned money

slim hamlet
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2ez planned

static glacier
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still woulda been a smaller loss than losing 4m gold in 2 raidnights

runic hinge
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gamba?

slim hamlet
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I got a good 16k on me right now

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token angle

runic hinge
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I'm back over a million

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Scopes and the new engi toy

static glacier
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ye gamba

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managed to win 1.6m the next raid

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now im just sitting on that for a while

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promised myself i'd never gamba to 0 again

runic hinge
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kekdog until next time

slim hamlet
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Until farm becomes a bit too boring

static glacier
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feelscryman we're all addicted

runic hinge
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I wonder if Shmeeps passed out from eating all that bread

empty tangle
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is it deadly or instant poison for m+ assa

static glacier
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one guy kept double or nothing'd until he got into 26m debt

slim hamlet
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deadly is just instant poison but better

static glacier
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from 1.2m

runic hinge
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Deadly, never instant

slim hamlet
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also deadly is needed for spatter

static glacier
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might have to retest internal vs caustic

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in veeeery early pbe internal was better imo

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now idk since caustic got buffed 7 million times

slim hamlet
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Then spatter got 25% buff

static glacier
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and internal got nerfed

slim hamlet
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0% chance IB is better

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aint no way

static glacier
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ye thats how i feel

slim hamlet
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I will doubt it even with sure proof

static glacier
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the kb dmg is too big with caustic

keen spruce
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okay i took to long

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and the convo has moved

static glacier
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excellent graph

slim hamlet
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so

keen spruce
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but if you garrote the left minion with default range

slim hamlet
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what does this mean

keen spruce
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you can IC like 6 minions

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but if you scooted back to max range and garroted it with max range acro

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you might only get like 2-3

slim hamlet
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ah

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yea idk why ic isn't buffed by acro

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seems weird

static glacier
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idk if this is better or having ic having 40y range

keen spruce
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its better

static glacier
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it was funny when it pulled random shit from miles away

keen spruce
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so you don't IC every pack in the room

slim hamlet
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it only works for in combat mobs now

keen spruce
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it don't

runic hinge
slim hamlet
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it definitely does

keen spruce
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it definitely dont

slim hamlet
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Realz even confirmed it

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huh

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Try going out to 2 neutral mobs and hit one

keen spruce
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do i have to go murder more duck in onhara

slim hamlet
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see if it hits the other right besides it

keen spruce
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i tested this like yesterday

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or a couple of days ago

slim hamlet
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I tested this like 2 days ago

keen spruce
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when i was measuring IC range

slim hamlet
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there aint no way

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my sub ran out

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so u gotta test it

runic hinge
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I was hitting multiple neutral mobs yesterday in that green thing in the dream

keen spruce
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okay standby sitmadge

slim hamlet
keen spruce
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testin shit i already know the answer to

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smh

slim hamlet
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imma need a clip before I believe it sitmadge

near osprey
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RIP ducks 😦

slim hamlet
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I remember being furstrated it didn't pull more automatically when killing neutral deers for a wq like 2 days ago

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sitting right besides each other

keen spruce
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yellow mob

slim hamlet
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I said clip sitmadge

keen spruce
slim hamlet
keen spruce
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i won't have a fish head for an hour

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unless somethin walks near this one

slim hamlet
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Just go to a random deer

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with its kids

keen spruce
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then you're gonna say

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"they socialed when you hit the main one cuz they're linked"

slim hamlet
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No

keen spruce
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"so they were in combat"

slim hamlet
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No not if clip

keen spruce
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where does obs save recordings to

slim hamlet
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whereever you put it to save in settings

keen spruce
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why tf is it mkv

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one sec

rain mortar
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what addon do you fellas use for progression ability timers?

slim hamlet
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bigwigs if that's what u asking

rain mortar
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ahhh

slim hamlet
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  • a timeline wa for it
keen spruce
slim hamlet
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I swear it didn't ok

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I am not schizo

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I was frustrated with it being legit right besides it and not working

runic hinge
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Why didn't you put posions on

keen spruce
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because that was not in the scope of this test

slim hamlet
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Still don't believe it

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Doctored clip

keen spruce
royal lantern
slim hamlet
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They all synchronized

strange python
wide ferry
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Are we saving shiv for our cd's? So no shiv in between?

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or just making sure its available

royal lantern
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shiv is 2charges 30sec

kb+dance is 1min

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they line up perfectly

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so ofc we line them up

grand trail
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you will use shiv between cds only if you forget to use one in cds 😄

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happen soemtimes to me

slim hamlet
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Ehm acthutually if the boss is gonna die before u get KB up u can use it too 🤓

royal lantern
grand trail
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or that 😛

keen spruce
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outside of CDs is for vibee

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not shiving

silk bane
brazen oasis
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what exactly am i missing that the sim is havin 4 cps there after KB?

strange python
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If it's the pack right before the boss, and i'm saving KB for the boss. You can bet I'm shiv'ing out of habit.

keen spruce
silk bane
brazen oasis
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i know, but im only getting to two cps

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and not 4

keen spruce
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oh

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it's missin a garrote

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after KB

slim hamlet
cerulean nest
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how would you open on the council fight theoretically? (with spatter I imagine too)

keen spruce
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yeah probably seal fate silliness

silk bane
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aint no shot u take spatter that fight

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like no shot

cerulean nest
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fr?

slim hamlet
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Why not

silk bane
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theyre all in narnia

brazen oasis
cerulean nest
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because theyre too spread out?

silk bane
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no way it reaches them

slim hamlet
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U perma stack 2?

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wat

strange python
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There's gotta be some ST build with a little spatter thrown in rigth?

keen spruce
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you definitely spatter angle

silk bane
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its hard to perma stack 2

slim hamlet
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Nah

silk bane
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but maybe if ur tanks are good

slim hamlet
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Perma stack 2

silk bane
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maybe u can yeah

slim hamlet
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maybe like right when they use ultmates

keen spruce
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you're definitely stacking 2 and you're definitely takin spatter

slim hamlet
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u cant

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other than that

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dogshit fight no matter what

strange python
keen spruce
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no just ST with spatter

cerulean nest
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either way, would you just trip garrote then normal opener on one of them? and then just try and keep env buff up while also trying to dot three of them lmao?

strange python
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what do you drop for it?

keen spruce
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it's a choice node

slim hamlet
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huh

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IB

strange python
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ahh ok

slim hamlet
keen spruce
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but the two you're hitting ye

slim hamlet
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One will be in narnia

strange python
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good call

keen spruce
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i mean if they randomly jump to where you can bleed them very conveniently

slim hamlet
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i don't think I will play sin on council tbh

keen spruce
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maybe

slim hamlet
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cba cringe fight

wicked zodiac
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guys what stats i can use on my ominous on dungeon ?

keen spruce
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but basically never

keen spruce
cerulean nest
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guess it wont matter on N/H

wicked zodiac
slim hamlet
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idk depends on how cringe it actually is on live

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if cringe I outlaw

cerulean nest
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we raid a few hours after patch launch so I wont have much data to go on

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gonna wing it mostly I guess

slate crown
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I wish you all the best tomorrow.

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I'll be cheering from the sidelines

slim hamlet
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28 hours

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hype

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I think my brother is coming tomorrow and staying for a bit

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So no grind

indigo mulch
slim hamlet
indigo mulch
slim hamlet
grand trail
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my wife having visit on day 1

past forum
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I feel like it’s a meme fight and you can just blast Urc-toes, bleed the other target, and maybe spatter

grand trail
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fucking shit

slim hamlet
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Might aswell not sub until 11.0

strange python
slim hamlet
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Nuffing

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Just dogshit news sites

strange python
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oh

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i was bout to not sleep and call out of work tomorrow

dark token
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!whispyr

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Damn this sheet is gone huh

dark token
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I need the best 2-3t build and don't wanna spend 30 mins combination simming

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Zzzz

strange python
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It's probably either ST with spatter - or hybrid build

proper tapir
strange python
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your intuition

slim hamlet
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What if my heart says no capstone build

dark token
worthy siren
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should i just play m+ build for mage tower? the wowhead guide doesnt have an updated build with the changes

lucid rain
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spatter did 5% of my damage on captains in freehold

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I probably could've played better but yeah, not insignificant

keen spruce
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5% a lot for 1 talent that far up the tree

raw raft
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Complained about not getting PI over a bm hunter and my gm said “almost like you should be playing outlaw or sub” ??????sub aintnoway

strange python
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jeez

raw raft
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This guy must’ve forgot if I have to play sub in raid I uninstall

slim hamlet
raw raft
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Said well why is sub simming higher

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Idk and idc

lucid rain
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honk 👟

keen spruce
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i mean to be fair

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why would they optimize externals if you're not gonna optimize spec

slim hamlet
lucid rain
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bring the player not the spec? idk how relevant that is these days

raw raft
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Well if I was gonna optimize spec I’d just play outlaw

dark token
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Sub doesn't even get PI despite higher opener burst

strange python
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For my character, 2 targets (5 min):
ST with spatter is in the lead by 9.4% over ST spec. Hybrid build is 1.0% behind ST build.
For my character, 3 targets (5 min):
Hybrid build is in the lead by 46% over ST build. ST Spatter is 16.2% ahead of ST.

keen spruce
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that's not my point at all

lucid rain
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haste effects should reduce sub's gcd monkahmm

strange python
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I haven't played sub in a raid since I got cucked during a flag window (probable skill issue) and did crap for dps.

keen spruce
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more value from IC

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on 3t

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or full value *

keen spruce
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could probably modify the hybrid build out of demise and grab a point in zoldyks or somethin

strange python
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Yeah I can't help but think - based on feel - that the hybrid build is just sitting a lot waiting for energy there on 2t

earnest remnant
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haste can hold my nuts

lucid rain
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I really like the blindside build

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very fun

slim hamlet
slim hamlet
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How can I help

raw raft
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So all the sub channel is talking about playing sin on every boss and the sin channel says to optimally play sub and who knows the outlaw gamers are talking about

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Interesting

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🤔

void pecan
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outlaw talking about themselves like gigachads

slim hamlet
gusty mirage
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I'll take care of it

keen spruce
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outlaw is arguing about what flavor of glue is best

raw raft
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I thought that was the warriors

lavish wing
gusty mirage
earnest remnant
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as the true advocate for whats right in this world

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i declare

strange python
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they're probably not arguing about grilled cheese sandwiches though

slim hamlet
earnest remnant
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play sub

slim hamlet
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Sure

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I will definitely do that

earnest remnant
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and if you dont

grim tangle
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I'm playing sub this tier on every boss for sure

keen spruce
raw raft
earnest remnant
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im gonna go cry to oxi and get you in trouble

gusty mirage
slim hamlet
gusty mirage
slim hamlet
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Just yellow

gusty mirage
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IS IT SHMEEPS?

keen spruce
gusty mirage
earnest remnant
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they are making fun of sub

gusty mirage
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sass stealthi one more time and you'll experience slow mode

keen spruce
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none of us sassed stealthi

earnest remnant
keen spruce
slim hamlet
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ofc every single sub player has an icon that shows they dislike their build

earnest remnant
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me on u

raw raft
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I think we all know what we’re gonna do, is reroll havoc

gusty mirage
slim hamlet
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aintnoway I got dabbed on by grandpa PogO

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(pleaser dont mutw me)

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pelasde

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please

gusty mirage
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I prefer pelasde tbh

strange python
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Are people randomly getting out of stealth while shrouding in m+ atm??

slim hamlet
gusty mirage
gusty mirage
normal mist
slim hamlet
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Apparently it is something about showing pleasure

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kinda sus

strange python
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Yea I got sark clock

gusty mirage
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could be that then

normal mist
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That might be the reason

strange python
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But Sark doesn't do dmg to yourself tho?

gusty mirage
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I wish we had a logical answer for you

keen spruce
gusty mirage
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BUT

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you can mount without breaking stealth

keen spruce
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yeah but it won't give you subterfuge if you do

gusty mirage
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that's what we call in the business, WORTH

earnest remnant
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true

gusty mirage
strange python
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Ahh okay nice to know xD

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Cheers for the help

balmy condor
keen spruce
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i noticed taht when i dropped sark cloak and rage phials

balmy condor
keen spruce
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it wasn't an issue anymore

gusty mirage
keen spruce
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I haven't updated stream elements in like

balmy condor
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OBS got more versions than I got years alive

keen spruce
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multiple years

balmy condor
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still less bitches tho

worthy siren
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is 0 less than 0 though? aMonkaHmm

earnest remnant
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didn't you refer to yourself as a dog to me last week whispyr

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wouldnt that make you the bitch in question?

keen spruce
steel spire
earnest remnant
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your honor i rest my case

balmy condor
old halo
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lets go boys!!!!

ripe blaze
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did the ashes buffs change sin bis trinkets at all or no ?

balmy condor
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no

grand trail
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still branch gamers

drifting cloud
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dont trust the raccoon, he lies

fossil talon
keen spruce
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it is a bug

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the solution is taking off sark cloak

fossil talon
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ty

frank gale
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just wanna confirm, is main stat food always bis over crit/mast?

slim hamlet
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no

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apparently not with more gear

frank gale
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word, so just learning the recipe wasnt a waste then. Comfy

blazing jewel
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its time

spare flame
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
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recording opener video and fucking up the opener so you have to re-record

keen spruce
blazing jewel
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We full dump during kb right

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Not just chain env

keen spruce
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ye

blazing jewel
wicked vapor
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
open rapids
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Is phial of glacial fury not good in keys anymore for us?

wicked vapor
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is there a separate weak aura that shows caustic splatter?

dusky blade
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Is it right to wrong to keep up crimson tempest in ST?

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Obv it's an m+ talent, but in a bleed heavy build it seems like it's probably worth for bosses?

keen spruce
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@blazing jewel
here u go

gar-snd-bush-rup-mut-mut-env-DM-shiv-dance/kb-gar-env-bush-bush-rup-bush-shiv-env-bush/tea- bush-bush-vanish/env-gar-rupture ---- vibee ---- env-shiv-dance/kb-gar-env-bush-bush-rup-bush-shiv-env-bush/tea-bush-bush-env-bush-bush-env ---- vibee --- repeat (-snd)

blazing jewel
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Repeat this buddy

blazing jewel
keen spruce
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now stop asking questions smile_dog

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goddamint

blazing jewel
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RIPBOZO

keen spruce
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i have no idea but if by gain you mean like +50dps sure let's say it is

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do w/e u want

blazing jewel
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50 total dps

drifting cloud
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could even be 60

blazing jewel
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I lost a r1 to nibren by like 60dps

dim pendant
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Does acro increase the range of your IC?

blazing jewel
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It’s worth it alright

keen spruce
drifting cloud
keen spruce
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except that you can stand further from the mob, and IC goes off of you

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so if something is behind you

blazing jewel
dim pendant
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Thought so.

keen spruce
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you could technically IC it from further away

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but the range of the spell isn't increased

dim pendant
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Thanks for the clarification.

keen spruce
balmy condor
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perhaps

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it's possible

balmy condor
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it's like 0.3% better

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what can you do

blazing jewel
gusty mirage
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@keen spruce

keen spruce
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DinkDonk1 looks like about 495 more seeds DinkDonk1

spice surge
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Why do you do this to yourself oxi pepehands

slim hamlet
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At least 1k

gusty mirage
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cause I literally have nothing else to play

slate crown
gusty mirage
shell lodge
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does casting mutilate during subterfuge automatically cast ambush instead? or do we need to have a macro for it ?

slate crown
keen spruce
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then you don't need to change anything

shell lodge
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i see thank you

drifting cloud
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unless youre farming mounts, then carry on

balmy condor
# keen spruce https://tenor.com/view/i-cant-believe-youve-done-this-gif-25427235
  • gar amb rupture
  • mut slice
  • mut mut env

prep done, cooldown time

  • deathmark + trinket + pi + potion + whatever else
  • shiv
  • dance + kb
  • gar (unless your shiv+kb double crit in which case 4cp bang the env)
  • env
  • gar
  • env
  • gar
  • env
  • shiv

gg cooldowns done, time for the misc stuff and the vanish

  • tea last 6 of kingsbane master
  • vanish last 3 of kingsbane for master assassin
    now typically after the shiv from the cds that'll look something like
  • shiv
  • mut
  • env + tea
  • mut
  • vanish + ambush
  • rupture
  • garrote
lucid rain
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what a nice guy

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formatting it like that

drifting cloud
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wowhead guide is wrong? im reporting this

gusty mirage
gusty mirage
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without doing zereth mortis

balmy condor
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do not remind me

gusty mirage
balmy condor
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I was up till almost 6am speedrunning sim updates any%

slate crown
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HELL yeah garrote as a builder

balmy condor
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sorry I mean sandbagging sim updates any%

slate crown
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I knew one day it would happen

balmy condor
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5cp garrotes

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it's fucking cringe

keen spruce
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oh ffs

slate crown
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It's not cringe it's beautiful

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I knew my practicing would pay off

balmy condor
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the good thing is that it automatically works for carnage

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so

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gg I guess

keen spruce
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yeah but now i have to go punch a target dummy and refuck my brain again

keen spruce
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wait @balmy condor on the 1m KBs without DM

slate crown
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I like it more tho, it means your dance window is basically the same everydeathmark, no seal fate rng

keen spruce
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it's the old way right?

balmy condor
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yes

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you would ambush

keen spruce
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PES_Bored okay

balmy condor
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wait fuck I didn't explicitly say that in the video

drifting cloud
balmy condor
keen spruce
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just add a note in post

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put a duck with a speech bubble

blazing jewel
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what happened that made it worth to garrote amb rupture on pull

balmy condor
balmy condor
blazing jewel
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dont we just overwrite the rupture in dm with dance

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or is that gone

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im reading hold

keen spruce
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it gets refreshed in the vanish

blazing jewel
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dont flame yet

keen spruce
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at the end

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not the dance

blazing jewel
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okay okay I see

keen spruce
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we're just gar-env spamming like s2 sub rogues

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2 button spec DinkDonk1

drifting cloud
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😐

blazing jewel
#

I forget

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wasnt it fine to finish on 4cp

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I thought I saw that somewhere

keen spruce
#

yes

balmy condor
#

yes

keen spruce
#

4-5-6 all fine

blazing jewel
#

does that have any conditions or is it at all times

drifting cloud
#

its even fine on 2cp but those sims are patreon only

balmy condor
#

all times

slate crown
#

So vanish is our place to re-snap rupture

drifting cloud
#

(for legal reason this is a joke)

balmy condor
slate crown
#

nice nice

inner swift
#

is energy pulling still a thing in ST?

balmy condor
#

yes

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pooling

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but yes

drifting cloud
#

again, not still!

inner swift
#

same shit

keen spruce
#

back to the target dummy salt mines

drifting cloud
#

@balmy condor how many different builds are you planning to "test" in keys tomorrow

silk bane
#

nah aint no way

inner swift
#

there was other thing as well , how much are we losing on dps from switching to our new tier sets?

balmy condor
balmy condor
#

because new tier is banging

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old tier bad

inner swift
#

really?

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i mean 4set yeah i feel you but

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that 2 piece was good tho

drifting cloud
#

probably only a loss because of the bug that might not be there tomorrow

blazing jewel
#

this actually feels a lot easier to chain envs with 4cp finishers

blazing jewel
inner swift
blazing jewel
#

time to sit at the training dummy until I hit max sim

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cya in 5 hours

inner swift
#

i mean cant we like drop 1 talent to get twist the knife in m+?

blazing jewel
#

@balmy condor if you change the rotation again ill mail you a package of sugar and caffeine free red bulls

balmy condor
#

change like 3 gcds in the opener and people lose their shit

keen spruce
#

okay actually new rotation kinda goes hard

blazing jewel
balmy condor
keen spruce
#

i'm okay with this thumbsup

wraith cosmos
#

i cant thoughtlessly smash my buttons anymore i have to do my cd rotation properly, cringe changes, sin ruined

stiff kernel
#

toxic or slimy boots for sweaty m+

balmy condor
#

for the easy peasy build

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then yeh

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twist banging

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but it's not great for damage

balmy condor
#

never ever

keen spruce
#

how many bags of sand in the new opener? HMM

balmy condor
#

losing haste PU_PepeKekThis

wraith cosmos
#

yea i was gonna ask

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figured haste loss is reason why its not good

stiff kernel
wraith cosmos
#

does toxic still eat up dmg procs?

stiff kernel
drifting light
balmy condor
balmy condor
wraith cosmos
#

rip

stiff kernel
drifting cloud
#

.. :?

balmy condor
drifting cloud
#

and we played slimy at start because of some sim shenanigans

balmy condor
ornate panther
#

is anyone else feeling energy starved as assa rn?

strange python
#

When do I exsanginuate

balmy condor
#

intentional gameplay

ornate panther
tardy blade
drifting light
cold pulsar
#

hey all, may i know our ST opener without dance? thanky you in advance

tardy blade
#

just learn dance tbh

keen spruce
#

last time i typed out an opener whispyr changed the whole goddamn thing

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i refuse

cold pulsar
#

haha pweeeeze?

inner swift
keen spruce
#

it's basically the same as the one with dance except that you don't need to refresh gar and rupture (unless they're falling off)

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because they won't get night stalker

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wait actually no that's wrong

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because the opener changed smile_dog

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you still refresh garrote and rupture when you vanish at the end of KB

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but you don't refresh them at the start like we WERE doing

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because no nightstalker

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but otherwise basically the same as what's on wow head

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until whispyr updates it

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to the new one

cold pulsar
keen spruce
#

probably woulda taken less words to just type it out ngl

inner swift
#

the 100 to 0 of our ST in m+ is really bad man

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you can feel it

runic hinge
#

I think it feels fine

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but maybe I'm too used to pooling

inner swift
#

im using the hybrid build on dummy now, it starts really strong but seconds after the vanish it falls below 100k

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maybe im doing something wrong=/

rotund wagon
#

if you are hitting a dummy and vanish and havent played with your logs at all it resets your combat in details be default

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idk if theres a way to stop it because i dont really care, but i know it resets your combat as far as details cares by default

inner swift
#

might be that

runic hinge
#

You can do dynamic overall in details and it won't reset after vanish

haughty flicker
keen spruce
#

I think my highest was 2.5m

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on PTR with irideus fragment and many other cringe things smile_dog

slim hamlet
#

Before nerf starege

plucky cargo
#

any weakauras that track buffed garrotes?

marble hemlock
haughty flicker
slim hamlet
#

U made it starege

stiff kernel
#

im not sure, tbh i didnt even notice just scrolled down lol

haughty flicker
#

i mean i still am but at least not bc of that

marble hemlock
slate crown
marble hemlock
#

(and its not showing s2 stuff for me)

slate crown
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
slate crown
#

Or I have a standalone if you don't want a pack

candid geyser
#

@balmy condor How did the endless sim that continued on whilst bowling end up coming out?

haughty flicker
marble hemlock
balmy condor
arctic current
#

can anyone make one with just a countdown timer? dont want any icons or anything

keen spruce
#

@marble hemlock i haven't looked at icy-veins in like months and when i just opened it all looks good

marble hemlock
#

its really weird

keen spruce
violet moat
#

is sin the word?

keen spruce
#

probably a cache issue

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or somethin

marble hemlock
#

but hes not the first person to have this issue

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so im trying to figure out whats causing it

haughty flicker
#

smh

keen spruce
#

i don't need guides i have this discord smile_dog

subtle kiln
slate crown
arctic current
#

Like i want these white timers to be gold when empowered

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instead im using a shitty green box

potent dawn
#

@balmy condor opener video when… want to give you the views XD

subtle kiln
balmy condor
#

uploading

candid geyser
slate crown
#

nvm

drifting cloud
#

@marble hemlock even doing ctrl + f5 doesnt fix it for me (im on firefox)

obsidian walrus
#

!ea

#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
marble hemlock
#

ctrl+f5 should hard reload the page

chilly viper
#

@balmy condor Safe to craft boots u think?

marble hemlock
#

without cache

keen spruce
#

o

marble hemlock
#

but its still fucked (was for me too)

#

incognito worked

chilly viper
#

ctrl + shift + f5 is cache reset

keen spruce
#

region thing?

dark token
chilly viper
#

yea?

keen spruce
subtle kiln
#

I did boots. it’s was a 1500 dps upgrade higher to do weapon

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i’ll get a dungeon weapon

slate crown
# arctic current Like i want these white timers to be gold when empowered

Whatever Conditions you are using to show the proc glow on the icon can be changed to update the text color with very little difficulty. If you're already using something with the rest of your UI you can just use that. You can also turn the icon Alpha down to 0 and hide the icon completely as well whiel the text willremain

dark token
#

If ur not doing week 1 mythic your only chance is to rng one from vault which is very unlikely

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And even if you do you can dual weild em

drifting cloud
#

its not that unlikely

dark token
#

So it's the max power week 1 craft

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And you get a spark week 2

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So u just make boots week 2

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And enjoy ur mythic weap for week 1

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(should only do this if not mythic raiding)

keen spruce
#

or farm hero track daggies, craft boots, then craft patch

dark token
#

Crafting patch big waste

drifting cloud
#

ok shmeeps

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farming hero track daggies

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thats a little bit of cope

keen spruce
#

I mean yeah if you're not even going into mythic

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for the first like 3 weeks

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then shrugFreg

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do w/e u want

marble hemlock
#

@stiff kernel but yeah, that bislist is still s2, toxic are the better boots in s3. im gonna reach out to our devs to see why the hell its still showing a cached version of the bislist for you, when the guide was updated over a week ago already. until then, highly recommend checking out the wowhead guide for s3 bislist stuff

dark token
#

Only way I would craft patch week 2 is if

  1. I found a good weapon already
  2. I have the renown 20 free infusion to spend on toxic patch

That way I can spend aspect crests on my mythic gear

drifting cloud
#

yeah enchanted crest on patch is prob not gonna be the play early

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its too much of your weekly cap

keen spruce
#

you're gonna get a free one from some campaign quest as usual

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wyrms*

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so you can use that to fill in

drifting cloud
#

oh right fyrakk quest, is that next week? prob not huh

spice surge
keen spruce
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hmm

dark token
#

Nah I mean the renown 20 one

keen spruce
#

well that one too

dark token
#

That campaign is locked like week 4

surreal nova
#

dont you get one from renown 20?

drifting cloud
#

I mean you do, but that assumes youve spent time farming renown20

keen spruce
#

if you're gonna be 20 renown next week then you're probably doing deep mythic early

drifting cloud
#

thats the same as saying just do alot of keys

spice surge
#

Assuming you dont have the renown 20 you def want to craft with it

surreal nova
#

i... may have... spent some time... seeding

keen spruce
#

yeah if you have a free wyrms it's -10ilvls under an aspects
but you get +14ilvl from upgrading gear with aspects instead

spice surge
#

Even if you do, its only slightly worse. Those 4 crests would be 12-14 ilvls on whatever item you want, whereas the aspect crafted item is +10 ilvls on the crafted piece

keen spruce
#

so in that case

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it's technically better

drowsy aspen
#

do we prefer the dance or the no dance ST build

spice surge
dark token
#

Viable craft paths imo:

  1. non mythic raider: mythic dagger -> mythic boots
  2. mythic raider (found good weapon): mythic boots -> heroic patch
  3. mythic raider (unlucky with weapon): mythic boots -> mythic weapon
  4. rwf raider: heroic boots, spend all crests on upgrades
spice surge
#

Its just there as an option for people that randomly despise playing with dance

marble hemlock
#

there is a no-dance st build? :x

drifting cloud
#

this eleem guy spending sus alot of time in assa channel

keen spruce
#

in current gear it's ~1.5% but that gap gets wider with more gear and new tier

simple ore
#

pretty big loss

keen spruce
velvet ridge
#

Am i reading this right, there is a new opening rotation?

untold igloo
#

with so many bouts of adds in the raid, has anyone been talking about how much value nelf's shodowmeld might have for sin?

surreal nova
#

whats the big fuzz about dance anyway. just one more button for more juicy pewpew, no?

keen spruce
#

it's not about dance

keen spruce
#

it's about acro

marble hemlock
simple ore
dark token
#

Macro it to kingsbane

wide ferry
#

does the new tier set help w energy...cuz by the tiome im done w just the opener i feel like im starved and burnin through teas. Guyess i gotta pool more

dark token
drifting cloud
untold igloo
dark token
#

It doesn't extend half of ur important abilities

surreal nova
#

yeah but, thats what. a 5-6 global sequence?

drifting cloud
surreal nova
#

doesnt sound that bad to me

simple ore
dark token
#

It's so scripted

velvet ridge
balmy condor
#

I love rewriting the wowhead opener I love rewriting the wowhead opener I love rewriting the wowhead opener I love rewriting the wowhead opener I love rewriting the wowhead opener I love rewriting the wowhead opener I love rewriting the wowhead opener I love rewriting the wowhead opener I love rewriting the wowhead opener I love rewriting the wowhead opener I love rewriting the wowhead opener I love rewriting the wowhead opener I love rewriting the wowhead opener I love rewriting the wowhead opener I love rewriting the wowhead opener I love rewriting the wowhead opener I love rewriting the wowhead opener I love rewriting the wowhead opener I love rewriting the wowhead opener

spice surge
surreal nova
#

i see

untold igloo
simple ore
#

no

keen spruce
#

but it will get updated soon

surreal nova
#

stop rewriting that page and upload faster please

#

i need that opener window. just in case.

simple ore
velvet ridge
dark token
#

Better graphic anyway

chilly viper
chilly viper
#

mfer got renown 20 too

#

476

dark token
#

This might be his split char

chilly viper
#

maybe too

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but most of em are assa

ripe blaze
#

should I follow the sim gear for bis or the wowhead guide bis list ? seems they don't have the same pieces

dark token
#

Week 0 heroic craft makes sense for that

keen spruce
#

inc flashbang

simple ore
#

jpc will probably spend a lot more of his time doing splits instead of m+ though, so the dagger is probably more worth in that case

keen spruce
#

here

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until whispyr is done in the salt mines

candid geyser
dark token
#

Spoiler it

keen spruce
#

idk how

balmy condor
keen spruce
fallow acorn
#

didn't even know you could do 476 now

chilly viper
#

renown 20 dream faction

simple ore
#

renown 20 gives a crest

fallow acorn
#

gotcha

dark token
#

They are doing heroic dag like that for splits chars

#

Doesn't make sense for their mythic chars

chilly viper
#

right

dark token
#

I guess they could always recraft with mythic crests next week

#

If the char gets lucky

#

Mythic weapon still good week 1 if ur rwfer

drifting cloud
#

question is with renown 20, are they getting more alts to 20 aswell

dark token
#

Can you put silk lining on it?

simple ore
drifting cloud
#

because yeah then it can just be for faster splits

simple ore
#

it's super easy to get 20 once you have one character there though

dark token
#

Renown 20 if you just collect all the tokens on the map you can get 20 on another char in 2-3 hours

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Because of the 100% bonus the whole time

lucid rain
#

that's wild

simple ore
#

200% below 10 too

balmy condor
stiff kernel
drifting cloud
#

oh right its 200% below 10

#

forgot about that part

fallen forge
dark token
# balmy condor

Oh that guys nightstalker optimization on the first rupture turned out to be a gain?

balmy condor
#

because it was wrong

red bloom
#

what did I miss

dark token
#

I remember it simming worse

drifting cloud
marble hemlock
upbeat magnet
#

wrong?! i finally drilled that opener into my head 😂

keen spruce
#

@balmy condor

surreal nova
#

did you do a switcheroo with snd and rupture? or whats new there

balmy condor
marble hemlock
surreal nova
#

oh yeah no i see

balmy condor
surreal nova
#

thats a lot of garrotes

drifting cloud
#

oh shit wasnt even aware its pip gaming now

dark token
marble hemlock
# stiff kernel Just let ChatGPT fix it 😛

its a caching issue, normally we purge the cache from our end so everybody gets a fresh reload, but apparently smth didnt work properly so you still get the old page (im gonna assume your changelog also shows an old update date still)

elfin forge
balmy condor
#

5cp is good

simple ore
#

just garrote -- envenom once your CDs are all up

#

instead of building with mutilate

keen spruce
#

just keep track of dance and don't throw a random mutilate after it ends

slate crown
#

Consistency is nice too, your dance windows in DM are just build - spend -build - spend alternating

stiff kernel
eternal heath
#

Think I am in trouble

dark token
#

I'm assuming during normal dances we do shiv dance/kingsbane garrote envenom garrote rupture

#

Or remove 1 envenom dance might run out actually

lucid rain
#

I thought the garrote spam was only during deathmark

dark token
#

Ambush sucks

#

Ah true it doesn't get 5 cp anymore

#

Just 3

feral crest
#

hold up is the KB window different now? whats happening in here?

drowsy aspen
#

what M+ build are you all liking?

dark token
#

I don't play anything else

slate crown
dark token
#

I pick the highest sim m+ build

slate crown
#

(If that's what you meant by "normal dances")

keen spruce
marble hemlock
# stiff kernel caching on client or server side?

both. basically, youre still loading the old cached version of the page (im gonna take a hard guess and say that if you click on talents, itll still show 10.1.7 talent trees for you as well?).

however, we shouldve purged the cache on our end, so youre forced to hard-reload the page. but that didnt happen, so youre currently stuck with the old cached version until you either clear cache or the problem "fixes itself"

dark token
#

Did he try incognito mode

#

Or cookies wipe

elfin forge
marble hemlock
#

im assuming its an issue with the embeds

stiff kernel
#

I cleared my entire chrome cache, tried incog, and even tried edge but i still see the same thing so not sure

lucid rain
#

blindside arterial build is pretty satisfying to play but idk if it's griefing dracthyr_kek

marble hemlock
#

(but im no web-dev). either way, i forwarded what you wrote to our team so we can fix this, cause its really fucking annoying

#

yeah that makes no sense

dark token
#

Blindside in keys??

#

Why

marble hemlock
dark token
#

Are you even spending the blindside procs in aoe

lucid rain
#

sacrifices a little bit of aoe to make bosses less buns

dark token
#

My st is fine with AP build

#

Idk

stiff kernel
merry raven
stiff kernel
#

This is what i see

balmy condor
dark token
slate crown
#

It's not that complicated

marble hemlock
stiff kernel
#

the landing page

balmy condor
#

I know it's terrifying

marble hemlock
#

ohhhhh

stiff kernel
dark token
#

I'm not complaining about it lol

#

It makes sense so I'm doing jt

#

I already was garroting

#

Just didn't do the rupture last

marble hemlock
#

so if you go to the bis/gear page, it works?

balmy condor
#

that's great man

stiff kernel
stiff kernel
#

that looks normal

#

Gear page

marble hemlock
#

but its something else entirely

stiff kernel
#

The landing page forgot to get some loving?

balmy condor
#

also wowhead is updated

#

for the opener thing

#

if you refresh

velvet ridge
#

honey, wake up

marble hemlock
stiff kernel
#

Gotcha

keen spruce
marble hemlock
#

so idk why it does

keen spruce
#

how was bowling @balmy condor

#

did u win

stiff kernel
balmy condor
#

no I sucked shit last night it was awful

stiff kernel
#

checks tomorrow icy-veins 404's

keen spruce
balmy condor
#

my last game I had to full blast a 230 to salvage my 180 average

#

was horrid

keen spruce
#

I fancy myself fairly coordinated and athletic. but I am truely hot dog shit at bowling

bronze marsh
#

I just huck a 6lb ball down the lane and see what happens

keen spruce
#

like probably should be using bumpers bad squishykek

bronze marsh
#

you can put all kinds of spin on one of those fuckers

balmy condor
#

maybe today I actually send video

#

but last night I was so pissed

bronze marsh
#

has no weight behind it so you gotta hit shit just right

obsidian walrus
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
eternal heath
#

Raid is tomorrow and I have no motivation to play shit

red bloom
#

opener doesnt change in aoe right and we still slice second?

dark token
#

Garret1 garret2 Garret3 snd

#

Fok rupture 2x

#

Mut envenom

#

Then do ur deathmark

elfin forge
#

Garret 🤣

lucid rain
red bloom
#

so no snd? XD

lucid rain
still creek
#

Specsavers?

dark token
red bloom