#assassination
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I’m just gonna press KB and be top dmg

i'm picking up sin after like 2 patches of playing other stuff, but i sent a 900k kb that felt good
Just you wait
U can probably get one tick to do around that
Oh yeah
yeah, im only 433 atm, and still relearning the rotation
It's gonna be fucking insane
We the new uhdk
My record rn is 2.1M at 442. But with raid buffs like wft and PI you will see it skyrocket
i mean there was a reason they made us choose kb or dtb. glad they let us take both now
You might hit max KB stacks without DTB even right now tbh
or don't it doesn't matter 
Like with PI you hit max stacks at 2nd last tick
KB without DTB is like a Girl without her cock 
Yes but I am not gonna say that to someone asking about it

wdym "it doesn't matter" is like my most common response to questions in here

Same

⬜
Did any of you guys remake ur tier helm at 450
Can you can still use s2 sockets on it
The smart guy that works the robit told me it doesn't matter so I'm passing on his teachings like a good noodle
i made it then realized i don't have a spare socket laying around
If you can, it's a bug. The stuff from the dream isn't s2 gear unless it says that and I'm dumb
then realized the vendor doesn't sell them anymore
The vendor does sell sockets
then realized that it doesn't say season 2 on it

He did yesterday
he only sold gold baggies

i see them now weird
he didnt have them on wednesday
either way @dark token the 450 converted tier doesn't say season 2 on it so i doubt it would work

see i'm not crazy
didnt check after but took some garbage instead of socket because the vendor had no option to sell it

But you can use s2 catalyst on it
very
moment
Doesn't this mean it's s2 gear
Nah
It will have S2 tag if it is
This whole convert stuff is likely not meant to be a thing
well you can only convert s2 gear so its something buggy in between kinda thing 
i took 2 tokens and traded them for 2 gold baggies 
someone told me it was already hotfixed for s2 tier
Quick question, as a new assa: is it normal to feel a bit energy starved in between burst windows?
might miss sth... not sure
Yea but if u convert without upgrading first it can't be upgraded
Like it's 100% a bug
very yes
, i took shoulders for transmog
Ok making legs asap
Remember to buy legs enchant then
you could have stopped that question after the word starved, and you'd still be normal
Ye
Wtf
U can but I forgor I had to do it
yes you can enchant
u can't just ask 2 questions in a row that have opposite answers that you want to hear 
Nooooooooooooooooooooo

isn't that only 100
shoulda been "Seed Stallion"
Seed sower
I don't wanna
The achievement is only for contributing seeds
And its bugged
or at least was
I have done way more 

is tracking SD redundant with how on the rails it is?
kinda yeah
i wouldn't say redundant
but not super important
There are very few scenarios where u might use shadow dance without KB in m+
I feel like I'm tracking a lot of things and it's having a negative impact on where my attention is lol
yeah that's fair
Generally prolly just dont track it if its overstimulating
I assumed demise
thought sudden demise
Ya
then converted to IC
LOL
i need to go to bed
it's 8am 
L hemisphere
L fake timezone user
what hemisphere is it 5pm in atm
i thought it was 2am then i noticed the sun coming up
but it is
Ya man it aint even noon yet
its 4pm lads, there is only 1 time and the rest are government propaganda
east coast has florida AND new york 
roughest timezone fr
although we have seattle and SF
i forgot about that video, i do not exist

Most goated time zone you mean
i am paid actor
Most people in here are
Every person disagreeing with me is a paid actor
Factual information

Pennsylvania is EST and we’re the home of the Amish and Will Smith. Debate over, we won.
How many time zones in murica?
the only thing i know of penssylvania and it probably exists elsewhere, is that you have a sports store called dicks
3 if you don't count hawaii
thought that was a clothing store
Oh yeah i was close
central
Yes we do 😂
then hawaii is technically in it's own time zone cuz they don't do daylight savings
but it's the same as alaska half of the year
Do we break 4 piece for 2 set in new raid?
Yes
Ty
Go 2p+2p
Like canada having 2 random states in the middle of the coutnry not using summer and winter time
wtf is even that
technically 6 time zones
since when Canada has states
hawaii, alaksa, pacific, mountain, central, eastern
One country with so many
L
Just be a tiny pookie bear like denmark and only have one
my favourite part about the 'united' states, is how all your states have different laws
idfk what they're called if not states
provinces
provinces
nice try north dakota
Couple of sin rotational questions:
- Do you finish at 4CP (for envenom) even pre-T31 set?
- For your "mini-burst" windows (i.e. kingsbane is up but no deathmark or vanish), do you want to go into it with envenom + shiv already up then shadow dance + KB? So sequence like Envenom -> Shiv -> Shadow Dance -> Kingsbane?
- Also could you use a shadow dance + KB macro or will I not get the effect of nightstalker by doing that?
yes to all the above
You can finish above 4 also though its not like a set in stone rule
- only if not using deeper strat tho
1: 4+ and 5+ is the same no difference, and yes also before
2: yes
3: Yes just make sure to place dance first in macro ofc
no no we can finish on 4 now
wot
yea
this breaks laws
Dope. That macro will save me a button. Thanks.
Because energy and saving cp is more important now
but its same difference to do 4+ and 5+
hurt me deep in my loins
and, you know, deeper still gives more finisher dmg regardless
is this just for envenom?
finishing on 4cp is the new exsang
any finisher
it's more about saving CP from seal fate
brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrruh
that is honestly going to be the hardest thing to adjust to
it's not like
it's more optional than optimal i think
a gain or anything
^
One of the cases where it really is just "it dont matter"
i mean it is nice that a crit mut can lead to a finisher now
you can just ignore
U are not hitting 4cp very often anyways
U need to be unlucky to hit 4cp
2 muts no crit with this much crit
no blindside proc
i'm only a 30% crit haver
oh yea this too
denmark math



But yea even 30% it is more likely than not to happen
ye
does this seem like the right damage profile for a 21BH?
if u wanna do 4+cp u can just make wa light cp up when at that to get used to it
spatter quite low
with 30% crit it's a 24% chance to get no crits on 2 mutilates
for BH ye cus the gauntlet will put CT above everything else
Most have spatter at least top 3
but yeha, seems normal
its BH gauntlet
you use CT once, all the 30000small adds get CT and die 4seconds later
and spatter has hardcap
get a spatter weakaura if u struggle with that
it dont have hardcap
hardcap at 1
wait, wasnt it 5 targets only
or did my brain made that up
spatter is like CT and everythign else
stupid brain
spatter should be a bit higher, garrote should be way higher
i guess im running into confusion on what the prio is on bigger pulls
Most breakdowns I see is Spatter-CT-Garrote top dmg
Garrote seems fine to me there idk
yeah ig my garrote in bracken was a lot higher but my CT was lower so it's kind of a wash
yo i wanna hit the tree boss in algethar with spatter
Same
spatter seems low tho
cant wait for fated season 
gotta get those spatties up
so on a bigger pull if i have a few ruptures out, garrotes, and CT up, the next prio is mutilating to spread spatter? by swapping to different targets?
right which is why its early in the opener
you wanna get bleeds out, spatter the prio/high health mob
then CT
or ct then find a spatter
subterfuge bugged for anyone else on sin?
no
well it is for me :(
you just want spatter up as early as possible
got it
how so
how is Assa looking copared to outlaw on m+?
It is bugged but u gotta know the bug to see it basically
but also bleeds as soon as possible 
Its quite literally not wowrking
lol yes
Hey
i need more info
Gotta make sure
Idk works for me
in specific conditions

in all conditions
do you have any macros
because i dont have the buff
make clip
Yeah send vid
idk how
do you have a bomb dispenser macrod
!bomb
to any of your abilities
hm
wasn't there an issue on ptr with it in regards to certain trinkets?
there's always been an issue with many things
i have bomb dispenser but not macrod
did this man just switch discord accounts?
not abilities
I am concussion too
Yes this is a known bug
or are 2 people having the same problem
lol no
Or, may not be a bug but it’s a known thing
idk who that guy is
How are assasination rogues looking in 10.2 in M+ and raid ? Do Outlaws outshine us ?
We haven't seen them both in the same room 
i'm looking with my eyes

neither are out yet, hard to tell. all 3 specs look pretty gud
Never had this happen
same, i'm not getting my subterfuge window after breaking stealth
If you literally unstealth without taking actions. You do not gain subt. It’s been that way on ptr for a while
I’m in bed
no they're talkin about hitting a dummy
Oh
are you confusing the glowing icons for garrote / rupture as being subterfuge window and not IC?
Sorry I’m sleepy
I mean unstealthing =/= breaking stealth I guess. Nvm imp gar has same wording
Manually leaving stealth, mounting, bomb dispenser and other on-use non-damage trinkets, sark cloak, corrupting rage
sleepy head c:
will all break stealth and/or cancel subterfuge
Yah
@light goblet take off your trinkets and try gar-snd-ambush on a dummy for me plz
It was my bomb dispenser cancelling subterfuge
and remove buffs/sark cloak etc
its normal now
yeah it's normally bomb dispenser
cuz that one behaves the most unexpectedly
but like irideus fragment will do the same
Yeah I reported on ptr about it, same wording and stuff to imp garrote but works different. Not really important cause why are you right clicking off stealth instead of attacking
just weird
yo boys, any1 proficient with plater to help me out? I am trying to make the mob health appear in front of its cast bar by playing with strata levels, but it only works for my non-target as you can see in the image
just unbind all stuns / interrupts and hide the cast bar
Guessing your prio targets castbar has a higher strata
is there a column on the right hand side that is for text options
not sure I understand, dont want to hide the cast bar, but to put it 'behind' mob health like it happens with the ones I have not targetted
sorry, that was a joke, dw
no trinkets worked
just delay the bomb dispenser until you're out of stealth and you should be good
Is it bad if I drop envenom while I'm reapplying rupture? Sometimes I have a 4p envenom and I don't have enough time to build and finish 2x under it, so it falls off. Do I need to make sure I only reapply rupture in a 6p envenom so I have enough time to continue the chain?
no, that's normal, no
if you drop envenom just pool back to 80% energy and start a new chain 
Yeah I know old tier is whack but I'm trying to build good habits now
just more time to
while we poolin

Need a WA with the vibger. Vibe with me when it’s time for vibes
idk how to put gifs in WAs
but i wanna
i'd just have that little vibe guy hangin out at all times
IDN either but I know you can do something
wft proc = 8 catjams in 1 sec
but like those oldschool scam internet malwares
poggies
i don't think i could be trusted with that technology
my whole screen would just be peepos and ducks
dancing around
I have seen worse UI's

that
i need some scuffed audio queue for the last few seconds of KB
vanish dik kb is ending 
i made a weak aura for my friend where whenever someone in his m+ party died, it played the wasted sound from gta
There is a voice queue with a very loud man screaming "I'm going to barbeque your ass" somewhere.
I updated the timeline aura with a sound option for vanish for scana, though just adding the sound to any kb tracker is p ez
yo my buddy got a WA made for deep breath on dev
that did the "ENEMY AC 130 ABOVE" yell from CoD
then on top of that
for each hit that it did on an enemy it would play the hitmarker sound
hahaha
shit was hilarious but very cursed
that's great
i replaced my dbm count down timer with random clips of my friend saying the numbers
that was scuffed
and i replaced my GTFO alarm noise with him saying "what are you doing c**t"
Yea might have to yoink some of it
I don't like timeline auras but can probably totally steal everything else in it

Apparently there is a build aoe build doing more than outlaw in M+?
Yes
is there a WA that has DBM timer-style bars for bleeds?
Do you have the build?
Oh okay
tier and gear will change things, as will bug fixes and other stuffs
At least from what I've seen our aoe is quite a lot better than outlaw even
Im just glad we are finally strong on low target counts again lol
Anyone knows what target count the packs in dungeon slice even is?
It is quite likely favouring outlaws target count
all i know is that sudden demise is a godsend
it's variable pack size
Specially right now when it just procs for no reason
and makes me not despair to do keys as sin
blas0n UI
idk what that means
Can go look at a sample sequence, p sure it labels and numbers each mob per pack
fuu did a long clarification on it yesterday i dunno the specifics
like it has different number of mobs dying off and dfiferent speeds
Oh
pull to pull
Yah
I thought it was just combined sims
is it based off of any particular dungeon? or just someone threw some pack numbers in there
so sometimes 5 then 3 then 0 in one pull
idk the specifics tho
memz you can customize it to a specific dungeon route
with advanced tools
that i know nothing about
I think the writers really have to optimize a spec for the specific dungeon slice if they really want to get far into it.
but default i think starts with a boss then just kinda does a mix and match of stuff
yeah far too much variance in most peoples gameplay to have that feature even worth
probably others
i mean that's not really what the tool is for on a surface level
It's just to see which gear is better
and anyone is free to do that if they want that specific informatino
Most people are quite content running like a 1 ST - a 5 Target - and like maybe a 10 Target (or whatever) - then choosing which to optimize for, etc.
yeah i mean that gives you another data point
Dslcie is useful for comparing a single spec’s variable options (gear, trinkets, talents) to each other in a variety of situations.
I would only run a multi target sim for a council boss
but you're basically never going to fight 5 mobs for 5 minutes straight
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
like all of the sims are only as good as the information you give them and they all have limitations
pugs who don't interrupt the healer casts 
you could setup specific fight timers and damage stops in a patchwerk too so you get a better number for a certain boss
but at some point the value gained from that is kind of lost
Healers got interrupts now so healer issue
Sims are probably better at comparing differences in a spec itself - as opposed to comparing unlike specs.
Yes
that's what we're saying yes
This is quite literally
In dungeon slikce dont look at number, look at %
Why whispyr nuked the sheet
I played disc last season. it was the source of my trauma 
fake sims? thought i was in hunter discord for a sec
About the only thing I won't min/max (assuming I care that season) is my race. But I have in the past switched races for that little extra dps.

I would never switch spec for dmg, but for their util racial I would
(prolly switching to dwarf)
this is how i pick gear, i sim 2 specs, and pick the best average between the 2
yeah that i would (if i loved the util racial) - but I kinda hate the look of some races.
Like I cannot STAND the way orcs walk
Bro
I can't fucking wait to be an earthern
Dwarfs are gigachads
BIG DWARFS
holy
permanent stone form 
Are they large dworfs or normal size …?
What are the chances it will not be a better version of stoneform
There gonna be a big questline to do to get it - or do we know anything about that?
finish the story
Oh let’s fucking go
get horde dworfs
The TWW story right?
dwerfs 
I don't think they specifically said anything about it, thought it would just be like dracthyr
oh they did?
they said they unlock after finishing the story
should be fast anyways
Any time I unlock an allied race or something - i get a race change, then end up hating it anyway
Black iron dworf and earthern are sick af tho
is deadly poison the one we always use?

Zandalari Troll - look cool when you're looking at them - but I didn't like being one lol
fun fact about trolls, they have a toe on the back of their feet
in a situation where u for some reason dont spec caustic and DTB but do spec amp poison in ST u would not use it, otherwise always 
I mean trolls kinda bend in the middle right - and zandalari don't? I kinda like that I guess.
If we had size sliders, I'd consider a regular troll
yeah that toenail on their heel gives me the jeebies
If I could be dark iron dworf but horde I would've changed insta
I think humans should just be horde and alliance, honestly (not a lore follower)
i mean technically no more reason to be a horde
They just need to let us pick a race and pick faction now like they do with pandas
Yeah we seem to be doing fairly bad in bgs (from my experience so far)
what would you do if they made playable ducks tho
for the horde tho
Also, in world pvp - the alliance seem much more responsive or something.
that's likely server based
i haven't even considered doing world pvp since BFA s1
but that shit was fun as hell on launch
lol yeah even the bloody coin farm was just 70 people aoeing eachother at the graveyard repeatedly for hours on end
world pvp is only for quests or achievements or god forbid essences
Ah nazjatar world pvp
I dunno, I'm a fan of the "end game zone" or whatever - being A) no flying and B) perm flagged for pvp
U are alone on that one
Maybe in the minority, but certainly not alone hah
that would be an endgame zone i didn't enter
I think it would be very hard to find someone else that would have both
I could see one or the other
We had xpacs with that though for the endgame zone but
that was back when PVP server was actually a pvp server
i mean it kinda was war mode on maw
allright, non-flying for some time is allright, makes you actually see stuff
but forced pvp? lmao fuck no lol, keep that minigame nobody cares about away from normal people
and there was just a graveyard outside the safe zone
quin69 viewer right there
lol i dont watch that rager
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
In every shadow dance, you're always looking to refresh rupture and garrote no matter what their durations are? Thinking more for the non-deathmark/vanish windows.
Yes. Always refresh them in dance, every dance
What makes assa have good execute damage?
Zoldyck talent.
can you live log a training dummy?
Should be able to
Hey Whispyr, quick question, in your modified wa pack, what is the blue glow around garrote, rupture, can't figure it out
empowered dots
imrpoved garrote/nightstalker etc.......
aka dots you let run out
ah so basically ones cast from stealth/during dance
also, anyone know how to address this error when tryna delete a log via warcraftlogs ui? "EBUSY: resource busy or locked, unlink '--filename--'
probably u are actively combat logging in that
close the game
@timber meadow someone mentioned issues with live logging dummies a couple of days ago. probably less headache to just manually upload
not sure if that was isolated or a general issue 
Our best 2 minute on-use trinkets are witherbark's and ashes? Are the ashes' buff already in play or still TBD?
yeah ill just upload thanks
ye didn't realize i needed to exit game thx - fixed it
Been busy and haven’t checked if the trinket buffs went in but ashes should be okay
It won’t be better than branch
Cause that shit is crazy
K, that was my next Q.
using ashes + branch seems weird
But its not bad
do you use one on kingsbanes and one on DM
pls no double active again
yeah thats what i figured

Branch on pull and kite it around until the second trinket comes up
It would be so fucked

Can’t even do that the orbs despawn
Thank god
Hello, this dagger doesn't sim correctly on raidbot
whats the english name or item id
i have 437 dagger on when i sim her in 450 is not better of my 437
during kingsbane, do you use the second shiv even at full cp? same for vanish?
You should be making sure you spend before you need to shiv and vanish
Try to avoid that conflict all together
so even at below 4cp
That’s what I do yeah
me looking at Assassin sims:
if u are below 4cp then using shiv should be fine
But if I’m not at 4cp, shiv puts me at 5 so
Fystia's Fiery Kris
i mean, if im below 4cp before the shiv cast, i would use mutilate/ambush, putting me at 4+cp
and then shiv would need to be reset
Dude, I have to say that new sin feels so insane to play on ST. I love the 2 minute heavy burst and 1 minute mini-burst windows. It's dope.
No, you’d use shiv to put you at 4+
please do not point out the potential hypocrisy that sims being a bit low could have something to do with bugs i might be responsible for
@radiant quail GTFOOBBG
on raidbot he sim not high, i think is bugged but this dagger look good
The effect isn't in sims
I think
Iırc dont skip shiv if you’re capped
but 437 dagger vs Fystia dagger 450 normally the ilvl win by far, but in not right
?
your avatar/profile icon
Damn @balmy condor dodging this one.
i see 
Realz is on one early af today 
i have awoken to many a text from a friend telling me, "GTFOOBBG"
I help the people stuck in hurricane areas
hey i saw max's twitch clip, twitch chatters dont lie buddy
stop sandbaggin
its a classic
Do we want to deny the people of the American south their hard earned sand?
We’re only A, everything is fine
I don't think the dagger is in sims correctly. Just wear it
"capped AoE, obviously swamp ass"
Yes i think, personnaly, just in the paper, he look fat
no nned sim 😄
with the DTB change to your 2nd lethal/non-lethal poision being applied less is there an optimal order to apply (i.e. deadly first or amplifying first)?
let me introduce you to the warlock class discord and our lord and savior 
no difference
I though sin wasn’t capped
I was replyin to stealthi
whispyr do be 
i feel value in raid is better than sim due to externals and burst dmg profiles being good
@sharp falcon what’s your favorite non-rogue spec?
Ooof
in BFA i played priest too but mostly heal specs
too busy fixing whispyr's bags of sand
what games you been playin?
in legion i played a lot of spriest, holy priest, frost dk, blood dk - that was the last time i raided mythic progression
gonna play the DH again?
is there anyone on the team that pushes mythic hard?
I could never go back to playing "casual" after mythic progression
bfa i mostly tanked and healed, pally dk priest, but also pvp'd on rogue a bit
It would just not feel right, the minmaxing is a part of me
min/max pet battles
I did that in BFA
I was born into the sand
was good
bfa outlaw the goat
How much dmg should i do with KB right now? (442)
7
more than 12
More than 69
♾️
sim it with buffs turned off
compare to your own gameplay
Dragging us into the sand of bags
SL did a lot of pvp on priest, pally, rogue all specs - pally tank mostly for heroic raid - and didn't do a ton of M+ but usually tanking on pally when i did
Rogue pvp in SL was also sick
When do you swap to new talents? Now, after 2piece or 4 piece?
hard to play if you dont change talents when loging in
since legion was last time i spent much time dps'ing, esp on melee, esp in dungeons - that's my plan for 10.2, dps in M+ and occasionally tank if i feel like it
yo is this real?
Ty
smh not taking the quick photoshop meme seriously
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
I actually just ran out of my inventory of sandbags
It’s better when they’re not flipped. The complete lack of fine details is what makes it great.
What tank do you plan on playing?
If you feel like it.
dh and rogue to start and when i have time probably will get ret pal and dk up to speed, MAYBE try one new melee if i feel up to it (never played surv hunter for example)
Realz out here like
I needed that gif
just whatever dps im playing that also has a tank spec, so dh and maybe pal/dk when i get to it
and I didn't even know it
Surv is hella fun, I would highly recommend replacing something with it if you want to give it a go.
Yo leaking DM’s ain’t cool man smh
this was 100% realz with nightstalker during the DF beta cycle 
Only thing fun is what deals the most dmg 
Oops, das my bad
yeah i want to learn more about hunter generally. I've made a few pvp talents for them but that's it and i want to get up to speed about their talents and gameplay more recently... no reason
realz confirmed new hunter dev
oh god too true
it should be called uncertain demise
We are losing Realz to the hunter confirmed
sometimes it kills things and sometimes it doesnt
Wait, @earnest remnant has a name which doesn't obfuscate who he is?
cool words smart man
im gonna pretend i have any idea what that word is
if you ever figure out the 'why' when it doesn't 1-shot, i'd be interested
"obfuscate" is surely a word I believe you
It’s a good word
It seems to basically always just trigger when under 35%
at least in open world stuff
How I feel when ever I saw your screen names until I learnt to just associate rando green name with a racoon.
Whispyr likes to obfuscate the true output of assassination sims.
Until we both joined the Boots fan club.
the word obfuscate bewilders me
well they have low hp, i could imagine that being true if u put a lot of dots on shit that still have a lot of time left
Someone hypothesized that it was due to open world scaling, as it seems to work fine in dungeons
ive definitely not executed stuff in dungeons
that could be, yeah, i'll ask about that
i should shadowplay/log
Yeah and no one can seem to tell me how I’m doing it, I’m that good
so is this
speciallægepraksisplanlægningsstabiliseringsperiode
Yea it just seems very random, the same mob could be brung to 5% hp with a demise and another to 10% when we tested, gl lol
Being able to post up sims publicly for everyone and no one can point to what’s wrong with them
That’s my real talent
Really? Dam hypothesis shot down, it worked fine for me but I've only run one dungeon
Agreed
Like in open world it basically always just insta triggers at 35% even if no kill yea
Not sure I agree with languages claiming "longest word" stuff when they're just removing the spaces from a sentence.
^
oh i thought this was some bugged skin because its all grey lmao
That means it's a cooked take
asked from ignorance: is execute time (<35%hp) incorporated into sims, and how?
didnt realize lfr tier was like that
Damn, I've been bamboozled.
Indeed
the enemy linearly decreases in hp over the course of the encounter time iirc
It is incorporated to sims on a target level, any target actor in a simulation will have a 100-0 health curve depending on the length of the iteration. That curve is pretty much linear across the sim
There are ways to make mobs with flat health values but there’s some obvious issues with that approach
So everything is time based
Whats the usual api for a sin rogue? Idk how to look for it , and i cant record it myself bcs im a bad sin
so regardless of 'damage dealt', the presumed mob hp fades equally from 100-0 on smth like a 5min patchwerk sim
Dungeonslice mobs for example spawn in a wave of 5, and they last 20 seconds or whatever, with a variance causing them to die staggered
Yes
so anything in the last 35% of time in the patchwerk sim is in execute :)
if anything, that would cause execute classes to sim higher than they would do in the real world lol
If you go into the full html on a sim and then profile the apl is there, or you can see it line for line under action priority list
"usual api"?
oh he answered
Wouldn't a linear scaling of health be favourable for execute classes since they are in the execute more than they usually would yea?
is it linear ?
Unless I misunderstood this
i always tought it was supposed to kinda simulate how it was doing in real scenario
going down more at the start with lust and shit
!fuu
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I think there’s some estimates for that yeah
Hard to estimate tbf
But it’s pretty much linear
Entirely depends on your other classes
19 warriors well then the execute aint gonna be long
I also feel like maybe sin sim is accurate and outlaw/sub are much harder to play so their raid performance doesn't match their 10-15k sim gap to assa
Or it could just be external diff
sub living off WFT again 🙈
Would rather live off wft than PI
Realz was talking about "sandbag" sims presumably because assa is doing much better than it's sim would indicate this week in raid
Well he said sims favour sin
not other way around
Which makes sense if it was fully linear
im mostly joking because it's been going around and i think its funny
People been calling Whispyr a sandbagger a lot yea
or well not directly whispyr but "sin sims are sandbagging so hard"
Fair enough, we had a lot of people complain here about low assa sims this week compared to last
is common
“no way assa sims that low after a rework”
But as far as I can tell performance is better in raid and m+
but yes, there's at least a couple bugs, that are incorporated into sims, and that make sin sims look worse than what reality should be if fixed
wasn’t that the 2pc bug that dropped them?
We don't even have that 2pc yet
Like t31 2p? 🙂
We are talking current live
So current sims don't have that bug if ur simming with t30 tier
ptr sims
yeah 4pc is uncomfortably good aoe tbh, in any circumstance where bomb and caustic can hit all targets (mostly m+)
What if sin is meta in m+
Can't wait for sin m+ god comp

what if
LOL!
what if indeed
come on, spit another joke
It feels so good for sin to actually be doing great AoE for once
when simming for m+, we use Dungeon slice?
the odds are probably low, but what if
what if mages and priests didn’t exist.
Its not just low, there is no way sin will be meta in m+ 😄
you mean if sub and outlaw didnt exist, cause if there's a rogue spec meta its one of them
ST still a bit rough but much better than before
I'm very happy with the spot sin is in currently, I think if 2pc bug is not fixed we will drop a bit but when fixed we will keep up
Confirmed Realz is giving us 50% aura buff if sin is not m+ meta
heard it here first
just wait for james to play assa in keys. 
I cannot believe real Realz is coping with us
and get flamed by every single one of his teammates
It's actually way better in keys than I thought
wat
is bro looking at dungeon slice sim numbers?
im looking at past 2 expansions of maining assa in m+ 😉
Oh
why would you do that tho, thats on you
sure bud, cope with assa being meta when outlaw and sub lose 5% st dps by going full aoe
I mean.. even if sims are high/low in dslice. It does not mean that your class is great in m+ D:
We had last had a sin meta in 8.0 and sub was also run in half the keys in that tier anyway
So I wouldn't mind if assa got a turn
why is he edging us like this
It's been a while
Anyone knows how much lethal dose bug is in dungeon slice
Guessing it is heavier in m+ than st
I remember when he was trying to run ass in plaguefall and Nerf was flaming him so hard XD
I don't know why people wants to be "meta" so bad o_O Why is that a thing? The "meta-god-comp" only matters if you really push super duper high keys. :S
assa will be meta if dratnos and tettles can say funnel every 30 seconds on a cast
Hush now, hide, all you little ones
Rush now, into the middle of nowhere
Singing and laughter will die
i was the one who made assa work in pf smh
without thinking about math almost at all, i'd guess 1% or less
Don’t forget how we’re “great with forced downtime”
oh
it’s easier to pug keys as meta
Would expect it to be more considering CT does a lot
Its about 1% whispyr said the same.
I know it's only like 1400dps in st
Should we expect bugs to be fixed with Tuesday? Sorry if asked and answered
They be working the best they can, we just know it will be fixed eventually
U can make it work again now
I believe
Which is all we can ask for lol
you should have no expectation besides that we know they exist and would prefer they're fixed... but there's no timeline on that unfortunately. Big game, things get fixed and verified when possible
Yeah just wondering if we're looking at Tuesday or in 10.2.5 like outlaw tier last patch
who knows
Its a music from a cartoon, i just couldn't resist after seeing the meme going "hush now"
THAT MEANS SUB RAID LETS GO( i was going to raid as sub anyways)
Good thing we got multiple good specs to play
must have misplaced it
Just use demon hunter detect or whatever its called
Isent the 2p even bigger though? the 2p bug is like 5% ish or something
Than the lethal dose one
I just hope we didn't get jebaited by the leeching poison possible fix 
doggos ate it while playing.
I'm getting jebaited by literally anything
That scared me
What adorable little murder machines
^
Here's the play, aura buff sin week 1 by 5% then revert when bugfix
i was under the impression that realz had a big staples button on his desk and he just refused to press it out of spite
maybe 10% seems completely reasonable
puppy velociraptor and 2year old happy to oblige
Why sin undersimming so hard
Here we go
Or 20%, outlaw sooo much higher
No fucc that
Thats the easy option
its right next too the "create perfect balance" button
but nothing in life is easy


No dooming needed tho 😄
ah no wonder... traded that one for a new couch a decade ago
The ghost of
is haunting blizzard hq and is causing bugs for their transgressions
That explains a lot







