assassination

[cunning needle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[light knoll]

whispyr is pi damage increase on bloodmallet accurate ?

[balmy condor]

Wait I recognize the name

[cunning needle]

does bloodmallet have tier set comparisons for all classes on one page

[balmy condor]

Isn’t that the fucking sheet

That had all the bullshit ptr sims

[cunning needle]

yes and no

mostly no

[balmy condor]

Aight the sheet was almost good

I’m back on “fuck you”

[cunning needle]

some guy got impatient and made his own version of that sheet with all the PTR stuff

[light knoll]

the Assa rogue sim on that sheet

Seems very wrong

[haughty flicker]

the bullshit sheet had a disclaimer saying it was bullshit and to wait for this guys sheet

[balmy condor]

Does it?

[haughty flicker]

i dont think he was affiliated at all

[storm forum]

its like 1% lower than fuu's

[balmy condor]

I’m on mobile

[light knoll]

It has sporecloak equipped

[balmy condor]

Seems okay to me

[storm forum]

I thought it looked fine

[balmy condor]

Yeah that’s just default profile gear

[cunning needle]

yes, we told him to just release the sheet and put a disclaimer that sporecloak sims exist

[balmy condor]

We submitted our profiles into simulationcraft with sporecloak

So any sims with default profiles will have it

[balmy condor]

No because it’s not usable info

[drifting cloud]

its usable for lazy officer teams in low guilds

[keen spruce]

don't they just use readycheck

[cunning needle]

yeah kinda useful for some "prio" on who gets 4set first

[keen spruce]

[cunning needle]

dunno

i like the sheet

[balmy condor]

It isn’t though cause there’s more to it then just “tier = sim%”

Warrior tier is like a billion %

Because the tier changes their talents

[storm forum]

I'll check back when it has functioning SPriest PI timing sims and see if I still like it

[balmy condor]

Some people have tier at different item levels

And the item levels and stats on the tier

Impact how good it is

[storm forum]

Cause all the things I think I potentially like about it are kind of whatever right now

[balmy condor]

Bloodmallet COULD have these sims

Very easily

But it doesn’t

Because it’s not that simple

[cunning needle]

@raw gale defend your sheet

[balmy condor]

I don’t need him to defend his sheet

I’m not interested in arguing about it

If he thinks it’s worth the effort to present the same info as other established sources that’s his right

I’m just saying that I personally don’t see the point of the sheet and don’t feel the need to recommend it

[storm forum]

Hey, about this. Does our current tier particularly like our talent choices? Like does no tier change our talents? And what kind of tier would make us swap from what we have into potentially like, no AP into sepsis/sbs? Like are our ST capstones just locked until blizz does a balance change?

[runic hinge]

Probably unless the tier revolves around shiv you wouldn’t change capstones. And you’d only pick up ap (for ST) but the other two are too aoe focused

[rotund oak]

Love the new guide,good stuff ❤️

[runic hinge]

If they made imp garrote even better maybe we could take sepsis for even more uptime. And if they did something like giga lethal dose for a tier set and you wanted another bleed sbs could be a thing

Idk

[balmy condor]

Nothing changes with our tier

[storm forum]

:<

well I hope something changers next expac

[slate crown]

Have we found any giga world trinkets that are randomly really good?

[pulsar apex]

silly question time: Do i still finish at 4cp if i know i need to refresh Garrotte next? (knowing it can only give max 2cp)

[rancid bane]

guys we're so fucking back

ass is sick right now

[oak lagoon]

im kinda confused in the priority list it says to keep both charge of shiv ready for Kingbane, but in the opener i do 1 shiv before Kingsbane

[slate crown]

The point is to have the shiv debuff cover the entirety of kingsbane

Shiv lasts 8 seconds and has 2 charges. That's 16 total seconds. Kingsbane lasts 14 seconds. So, you use one charge right before KB, the second charge halfway through

and you get full coverage

[oak lagoon]

i see !

thx toy

you

[slate crown]

np

[split roost]

Holy i love kingsbane so much. Its so satisfying ..

[raw raft]

we just played sepsis MADGE

i hate that spell

[runic hinge]

It was just ideas on what they could do to tier sets in the future to make us change talents

Tbh I just want flag back in the class tree instead of ER and I’d be happy

[pulsar apex]

anyone?

[limber lion]

Just gar first

Then finish

[pulsar apex]

ty

[woeful iris]

Do we apply garrote both at the start of dance and at the end of it?

[restive inlet]

Rupture or envenom at the end

Subterfuge that is

At the end of

[raw raft]

should i rip 463 toxic boots or wait til next week hmm

[limber lion]

No, just once

[near kraken]

Should I always stay above 50% maximum energy for Crimson Blades?

[slate crown]

No

We take the talent to benefit from it passively, but you do not try to stay above 50%

[grim jay]

No reason to rush anything

[plucky canopy]

Honestly just doing the open world content with the rework is soo good, having such a blast and did nothing besides rep grind 😂
Hyped for today raid, echo gotta be sketchy but w/e

[grim jay]

Couldnt be me

Rep stuff always is really annoying to me

[plucky canopy]

I live that stuff

[slate crown]

can't do much of anything rotation wise

shit just falls over

[plucky canopy]

More degen more good

For a short time at least

[slate crown]

like I build up press KB and by the time I kingsbane dance it's dead

Only things that lasted long enough to actually dps was in hordes of people and was lagfest

still, I think the overall world content is ok

[plucky canopy]

It's not the content, it's the class. Pressing KB feels just to good

Snapping also a good one imo

And the passive spread of garrote/rupture is a plus too

Sub is still kinda awkward, need to relearn cd windows, but that's just investing a bit of time to it

But overall a lot of fun too

[grim jay]

It isnt really much to learn if you played the spec before

Guildie of mine loves his OL

Couldnt be me either

[strong sleet]

When i snapshot stuff for my bleed, does the Dmg AMP Go away when i refresh it within the pandemic Window?

[slate crown]

Yes

[raven merlin]

Luxthos WA is not updated yet? I have no spatter and IC in the WA. Have anybody else this problem?

[slate crown]

You want to watch your snapshotted bleeds and let them bleed all the way out before refreshing. Ideally as they fade

[strong sleet]

Ah okay so Just Like garrote, refresh right after the Last tick?

[balmy condor]

Mines updated

[slate crown]

Yup

[rain cairn]

hi quick env question, are we happy with just sending 4 point env's? or are we still doing the ol -1 +1 thing

[indigo mulch]

I yoinked whisyprs. Works just fine.

[balmy condor]

Babe wake up new spelling just dropped

[indigo mulch]

I just woke up T_T

[balmy condor]

We’re happy with sending 4 point anything

[indigo mulch]

pls

[void mesa]

[balmy condor]

It’s fine, me and max have talked in person and he still spells it whyspyr

I’ve seen worse

[rain cairn]

ah sick, 4 pt everything ty homie

[indigo mulch]

lmao

I love max, he seams like such a fluffy dude.

[balmy condor]

Max is giga adhd lmao

But he’s such a nice guy

[indigo mulch]

I mean dosen't he have adhd? lol

makes sense

[balmy condor]

Yes

[indigo mulch]

[balmy condor]

Bro will dm you like “hey you wanna talk rogue?” And I respond “yeah sure when” and he just fucking slams a call

[indigo mulch]

[balmy condor]

One time he pulled that on me and I was half naked in bed

Had to just full sprint it to my pc

Sitting there in front of my pc wearing nothing but boxers

Half asleep

Talking about rogue things in front of 40k people

Wild shit

[indigo mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[balmy condor]

I love him so much

[indigo mulch]

Honestly, i feel stupid but like.. the opener is actually hard to do perfectly.

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-simply-a-difference-in-skill-frog-dancing-skill-gif-21877908

[indigo mulch]

Yes. 😦

[whole mason]

any particular issue?

[stark mirage]

Do you guys use any plater script/mod that changes bordercolor depending what dots you have on them? I find the dot icons maybe clutters the screen a bit

[balmy condor]

Yeah the issue is pebcak

[balmy condor]

Mine changes for Deathmark/caustic/kingsbane

[indigo mulch]

Nah its just getting the muscle memory in.

[balmy condor]

But basically same thing

[stark mirage]

do you have that script on wago whispyr?

[balmy condor]

If you’re savvy enough you can yoink it

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[balmy condor]

I can isolate it out when I get home if you can’t

[stark mirage]

thanks, I'll try find it in there, maybe I like the whole plater profile

[indigo mulch]

I've been using cevs plater for ages i think

[rain cairn]

did they increase the chance of blindside? feel like this shits proccing so much more often

[balmy condor]

No

Same chance

[rain cairn]

strange

me diff ig

[balmy condor]

Brain diff

Gottem

[rain cairn]

fr tho

[balmy condor]

I got that tism too

[indigo mulch]

Ugh... zoom meetings.

anyone want to work instead of me?

[rain cairn]

dibs not

[balmy condor]

If I get the money for it sure

[indigo mulch]

I don't earn that much D:

We get paid nothing over here in germany ;C

[balmy condor]

Can’t be worse than my minimum wage irl job, or the 1.50 an hour or whatever I make streaming/YouTube

[indigo mulch]

Uh i have to calc what i have per hour

[balmy condor]

I actually think I make less than a dollar per hour on my content

Now that I’m looking at the math

[soft shale]

we get paid in hopes and dreams

[indigo mulch]

I have about 35€ per month.

err

per hour

lmao

[balmy condor]

Nice

That’s wowhead money

Well

Depends on what

[indigo mulch]

Would think so. I work in the same industry as them. :p

[balmy condor]

They pay flat rates on stuff

So kinda hard to compare to hourly

[rain cairn]

i get the same just AUD.... so about half that XD

[balmy condor]

Some patches you don’t need to update shit and just take the money

Some patches you have to rewrite half the guide

[indigo mulch]

I've been meaning to ask, how much do you actually earn by writing guides for wowhead?

[balmy condor]

Super depends on the patch and what you’re writing

[indigo mulch]

10.1?

[balmy condor]

Patch updates are flat rated

If your spec has significant changes in that patch you ask for more

If you have updates after that it’s hourly

But it’s super seasonal right

Like I could invoice 2000 or whatever in a month on a big rework like 10.2

And then invoice essentially nothing for the next 6 months

[indigo mulch]

Do you know what the devs over at wowhead makes? 😄

[balmy condor]

Backend? No clue

[indigo mulch]

[balmy condor]

If you ever meet one of them tell them to fix our rotation tool?

Those fucking togglers are so jank

And they recently expanded the functionality

And they’re still fucking awful

[indigo mulch]

? its just a bunch of ifs. lol

how can it be hard to fix 😮

[balmy condor]

So if you open the rotation page

Those toggle switches

Are legit just

Read the list, turn X on/off

Before, we had to reference the index in the list for the togglers

[indigo mulch]

yeh

[balmy condor]

So if you want to insert some new ability in an early index

All the other ones shift down 1

[indigo mulch]

ehh

[balmy condor]

And it breaks

All your togglers

[near kraken]

I feel like I am never above 50% ever unless I am in a dungeon

[indigo mulch]

Yeah i just tried, its breaking on the AoE opener rotation

[balmy condor]

Yeah so funny thing about that

It’s not breaking

That’s intended

[indigo mulch]

....?

[balmy condor]

They recently changed it

So you can reference indices via string

A la hashmap

But the core functionality of the on/off

Is still fucking jank

[balmy condor]

Yep

[indigo mulch]

[balmy condor]

You turned them all off

And because the togglers are set to show=X

and you turned them all off

It reset to show all

[grim jay]

[balmy condor]

The way to “fix” that

Would be to go through

And set the default on each line

To hide default

But then you’d get the same stupid interaction

But in reverse

There’s legit no good way to avoid it

Those togglers make me suicidal

Every time someone pings me and goes “hey I was on the rotation page and I noticed…”

[indigo mulch]

LOL

[balmy condor]

I want to actively tie a rock to my ankles and walk into the ocean

[past forum]

That’s peak rogue performance tho

[balmy condor]

Like just because we changed it from turn on/off array index

To turn on/off hashmap

It’s still fucking dumb

I can reference by string

Yippie

Oh

[indigo mulch]

lmao

[balmy condor]

Even funnier right

If I have a toggle

Say for dance

And I want it to toggle on/off 4 different lines

They each need to have different strings to reference

I can’t say toggle on dance

Because that will only toggle the first string it finds

It won’t toggle all matches

So I have to say show=dance1,dance2,dance3,dance4

[indigo mulch]

lol

why is it built like that

[balmy condor]

And then each line gets it’s unique numbered dance string to reference

[gaunt moat]

If you wouldn't invent a complex rotation that wouldn't be an issue.
so that's on you.

[balmy condor]

Bro don’t ask me

[raven merlin]

The Spatter on your WA didnt work either for me 😦

[balmy condor]

Skill issue idk works great for me

[gaunt moat]

Look at BM, they had a simple opener. you should learn from them

[balmy condor]

I downloaded it from that very link earlier today when I logged in for the patch

But yeah, wowhead rotation togglers

Not even once

[raven merlin]

I will look at home, ty

[balmy condor]

Miss me with that shit

The rest of the wowhead backend is kinda fine

It’s just formatting lists and tables and headers and stuff

Standard practice

But those togglers

Fuck those togglers

[quiet oar]

Fuck Togglers

Thats the spirit

[grim jay]

Yeah fuck toddlers

[grim jay]

Worked fine for me aswell

[quiet oar]

[grim jay]

Uhm

[quiet oar]

Officer its him right there

[balmy condor]

Wait a second

[clever sapphire]

wording

[cunning needle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deVlcKhNLLk

tbh the new wowhead rotation system

looks better

[balmy condor]

Looks better than what

[cunning needle]

the old one

not that the old one was bad

but i dunno, looks cleaner now

[balmy condor]

What

[cunning needle]

isnt it new?

[clever sapphire]

i may have used wowhead a bit too little, but what changed?

[balmy condor]

It should look the same from a user perspective

[cunning needle]

or have i just not been on wowhead in ages

?!?!?!?!

am i being gaslamped

[clever sapphire]

i didnt see a change really

but i may just be blind

[balmy condor]

Those togglers and stuff have been there since dragonflight

[cunning needle]

wait

did i dream this

[balmy condor]

I mean I updated it for 10.2

But like

[cunning needle]

no

[balmy condor]

The layout has been the same

[cunning needle]

im cooked

ignore me

[balmy condor]

All expac

[cunning needle]

i've gaslighted myself

nvm i havent

i was thinking of the sub one

[clever sapphire]

rupture inside shadowdance, sub is copying assa smh

[cunning needle]

all paths lead to shadow dance

[balmy condor]

Oh

Fuu copied wordup’s layout

I was thinking about it

But our opener is so rigid

I can barely find a reason to use togglers tbh

If it weren’t for the ER on the no-dance build

I legit wouldn’t have a reason to use them at all

[clever sapphire]

imagine not playing dance

[balmy condor]

Wordup cooked a fuck ton of layout ideas

For his enhance guide

And I was like this is really pretty

But also

[cunning needle]

it is very pretty

[balmy condor]

Enhance has like 2 distinct builds

[quiet oar]

Fuck Togglers

[balmy condor]

And differences

[cunning needle]

like functionality it's not much different

i think

[balmy condor]

And they can use all sorts of gameplay changing talents

[midnight mist]

you seen the enhance faq whisp btw

[cunning needle]

but it looks cool

[balmy condor]

And like

I can’t

[balmy condor]

Yeah

Enhance faq is less impressive imo

It’s like 3 paragraphs and some fancy icons

Ooooo

So cool

Idk

That’s whatever

[midnight mist]

https://discord.com/channels/91325323542552576/1160032280069292113

this one

[balmy condor]

Yes

[midnight mist]

oh ok

idk thought it was really cool, similar to what I did with outlaw faq but 10 times prettier

I uwued

you know

[balmy condor]

Yeh I mean it’s pretty

But idk

Feels like a lot of work

To just give the same info

But with some icons

[midnight mist]

for having done the same for the last outlaw faq it could be worse

[clever sapphire]

pretty visuals sometimes helps make people wanna read something

[midnight mist]

the inital setup sure, but once you have a global thing

a patern I mean

its fine

[balmy condor]

For sure

But also like

Wanting to improve at something should be reason enough tbh

If you need things to be pretty to want to improve

Feels a bit yikes imo

[clever sapphire]

i mean i read and watch all your shit cause i need every bit of info. But there are just people that are lazy enough and just gonna ask here for everything thats in the guides/pins/faq

[balmy condor]

Or just dm me “any new talent build?”

(I’ve gotten maybe a dozen of those in the last 2 days)

[quiet oar]

Whats crit cap?

[midnight mist]

!whispyr

[subtle tundra]

34

[quiet oar]

What is Kingsbane, pls explain like i was a 5 year old toddler

[clever sapphire]

problem of being too famous

[quiet oar]

and protect me from @grim jay

When im cosplaying a toddler

[surreal citrus]

lel

[plucky canopy]

It is as devasting as if someone steals your shovel in the sandbox

[quiet oar]

Wtf give it back

[balmy condor]

I guess so

[neon tide]

You are a rogue. Take it back.

[plucky canopy]

You wanna hold onto it as long as u can and enjoy every bit of it

[balmy condor]

Yesterday’s patch day was so bad I actually couldn’t respond to all the DM’s

I lost track

Woke up with 174 discord pings

[quiet oar]

[balmy condor]

And I just kinda sighed

[clever sapphire]

meanwhile i got bored after doing the story and started doing the story on all my chars

[balmy condor]

Worked through half

And then fell asleep again and when I woke up the other half was lost

Idk what I did

[quiet oar]

Just pickpocket it ty

[clever sapphire]

sleep walked through all the dms

[subtle tundra]

damn and i thought it was annoying when i got like 3 dms

[plucky canopy]

Kingsbane feels just so good, idk I am happy and smiling all day if that things comes of cooldown

[balmy condor]

I wake up daily with anywhere from like 25-75

Depending on the day

[subtle tundra]

i wouldnt wake up anymore

[plucky canopy]

Jesus

[subtle tundra]

so sorry

[balmy condor]

Not like unique people

[midnight mist]

I have a panic attack everytime I get a dm

[balmy condor]

Just total messages

[runic hinge]

Same

[jade river]

light flex

😄

[balmy condor]

It’s not a flex if it’s something no one wants

[jade river]

jk btw

[midnight mist]

just dont answer tho

[balmy condor]

Spending the first 30 minutes you’re awake just answering DM’s

Is not it

[balmy condor]

That feels so rude though

[midnight mist]

no one called me rude yet

[jade river]

HAHAH

True

[royal lantern]

just answerr

yeha lol

on all of them

[cunning needle]

rude.

[jade river]

You can block dms

[quiet oar]

Better check your DMS

[balmy condor]

That seems rude too

[quiet oar]

[jade river]

I mean if it bothers you that much, you go first

[quiet oar]

Yo whisp Zac is rude

[midnight mist]

?

[slow needle]

Can confirm, Wordup mentioned it took a lot of work.

[midnight mist]

I answered you

[quiet oar]

Called me Bozo

[midnight mist]

how is that rude

[slow needle]

And it breaks on mobile.

[rigid tartan]

Any timerift trinkets value to start of next week‘s dungeon and raid farm? Beacon nerfed right?

[royal lantern]

hi bozo

[peak lake]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[runic hinge]

The truth can’t be rude

[midnight mist]

it doesnt

[steel spire]

Getting called bozo by Zac uwu

[simple gulch]

can I have some haste please

[midnight mist]

based

fuck haste

[slow needle]

By break I mean it doesn't properly resize all the time.

As opposed to functionally bricking.

[cunning needle]

use one of these bad boys now

[midnight mist]

hm idk

[subtle tundra]

i want to find a woman that can beat the shit out of me

[midnight mist]

worked quite well on mobile for me

[simple gulch]

[steel spire]

[slow needle]

Its because they're actually images so they don't always resize properly.

[jade river]

I can dress up

[slow needle]

Especially if you ever go landscape.

[grim jay]

Gimme your log in, ill be your secretary

[balmy condor]

Yeh there’s just a lot of DM’s that I get where people are like either not in a shared discord because they’re dm’ing from YouTube or wowhead/method guides, or people just don’t want to ask something in public because they’re uncomfortable asking in public because they’re too shy etc

[quiet oar]

[simple gulch]

doesn't sin want haste

[midnight mist]

landscape??? on phone???

tf you doing bud

[subtle tundra]

ofc she wouldnt do it seriously, she'd love me but we'd fight and then kiss

[slow needle]

Laying on my side.

And shit rotates.

[royal lantern]

(fight means hugging)

[grim jay]

Thats cute

[midnight mist]

skill issue

[simple gulch]

are you the guy in Love The Way You Lie MV?

[slow needle]

Its more comfortable for me to use as well.

Especially for typing.

[jade river]

I do understand, but at some point if it bothers you, it's absolutely acceptable to just block. It's not really an attack on them.

[subtle tundra]

i am eminem, yes

[simple gulch]

pog

[runic hinge]

Whispyr dm’ed me once and I thought I was getting kicked from the discord

[bronze pike]

its a weird place to be

like im having trouble finding the words

[simple gulch]

nice name

[bronze pike]

ty

[jade river]

I just get dm by people trying to sell me ntf or some crypto

[keen spruce]

the trick is to DM whispyr at like 3am when he's in night owl work mode

[grim jay]

This

[keen spruce]

and the rush hour of dum questions has died down

[clever sapphire]

where yellow duck

[keen spruce]

[bronze pike]

i completely lost my train of thought

[jade river]

3am where ? 😛

[keen spruce]

i'm learnin kick flips @clever sapphire

[balmy condor]

Oh I see, I didn’t want it to seem like I’m complaining about it or it bothers me. If people don’t want to ask publicly I’d rather they dm and ask me. If they don’t ask publicly AND they don’t dm they don’t ask at all, and they don’t learn. That’s not okay to me

My DM’s will always be open because of that

[simple gulch]

Whispyr, how bad is it if I have 0 haste?

[balmy condor]

It’s just

Sometimes it’s a lot

[steel spire]

Why is whispyr cute

[balmy condor]

Not insanely

[slow needle]

Keep calm and drink more Monster 🙂

[clever sapphire]

cool, a kickflipping duck playing assa and topping meters

[balmy condor]

Yo true

[bronze pike]

whispyr is cool and im pretty sure he knows if stuff gets to the point of it bothering measures wil lbe taken for it. its just some people are shy and find it easier to dm people for one on one time. its better then people not dming or typing here and thus not improving

ah

[jade river]

I mean, I wans't trying to convince you, just telling you that there is an acceptable solution. I feel like some people sometimes forget to think about what they want.

[keen spruce]

my brain is not jiving with new sub in keys or new sass in st

[bronze pike]

mf said it first

[simple gulch]

please don't drink monster

[keen spruce]

i think i'm gettin old

and learning is slow

[grim jay]

Turns out to be in his mid twenties

[keen spruce]

i spent too much of ptr auto attacking target dummies testing poison proc rates

and not actually learning what we're supposed to do this tier

[peak lake]

!whispyr

[balmy condor]

You aren’t my real dad

[steel spire]

I hope assas gets some buffs cause my ass is donezo if in applying as a dagger bro

[clever sapphire]

i didnt touch sub yet, assa is fun af tho

[simple gulch]

Real?

[bronze pike]

its kinda funny to me how sometimes people just dm me out of the blue asking for ret help, it makes me feel good to help people :3c

[keen spruce]

it's fun my brain is just takin a hot minute to adjust

[grim jay]

Monster best stuff

[jade river]

I'm just picking up rogue after a few expansions and feel completely lost 😄

[bronze pike]

but sometimes ill legit just ignore dms if im not feeling it and leave it for future remmy to handle

[balmy condor]

The wowhead guide wouldn’t exist without monster

[simple gulch]

send me all the haste gear you get, thanks

[balmy condor]

Be careful what you wish for

[keen spruce]

i wish for all of the haste gear cuz that ups my chances of getting nick of time

[clever sapphire]

i mean, i played 2 keys yesterday. And on every pull i just felt how i fecked up everything, or atleast it felt like it

[slow needle]

Do you have Relentless over there Whispyr?

[balmy condor]

Never heard of it

[keen spruce]

I only did a 15 waycrest last week on ptr

[balmy condor]

Is it like liquid battery acid

Cause I’m so down

[keen spruce]

as assas and it wasn't really my jam. but sass in keys really never has been

[balmy condor]

IV drip into my veins

[simple gulch]

isn't coffee better and more healthy than monster

[keen spruce]

but i know my ass is playing this new dusty sub build wrong

[simple gulch]

why even drink monster

[balmy condor]

Oh it looks like battery acid

[simple gulch]

when u have coffee

[balmy condor]

This is a good start

[simple gulch]

same

[jade river]

@balmy condor Why not just drink coffee? 😛

[simple gulch]

real and true

[balmy condor]

Caffeine is weak shit and doesn’t actually make me any more productive

Also tastes like dirt

[slow needle]

Its kinda great, not as good as Monster though. First energy drink I ever had, got proper wired cause I was like 13. Drank 3 cans of it and ended up feeling rough.

[jade river]

I mean, cheap coffee does

[balmy condor]

The taurine in energy drinks actually gets me going

And coffee has none of it

[subtle tundra]

coffee is placebo

[keen spruce]

caffeine pills and 5 hour energies

[grim jay]

Definitely not for your teeth

[simple gulch]

fuck teeth

[steel spire]

Blend my chicken cause it's faster to consume

Grind time

[viral aurora]

Can confirm, stains your teeth, however not bad in a decay your teeth kind of way.

[grim jay]

Disgusting

[simple gulch]

doesn't brushing them help

[grim jay]

If you brush after drinking the coffee ye

Most people drink coffee at work tho

[clever sapphire]

what if i work from home

[subtle tundra]

what if i dont work?

[grim jay]

[balmy condor]

Are your teeth uncomfortable in your mouth? Pull them out. If you remove them it won’t be uncomfortable anymore. Doesn’t your mouth just… feel crowded?

[simple gulch]

It does actually

[simple gulch]

I hate it

[balmy condor]

Pull them out

[runic hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-looking-at-camera-gif-6865596869770991662

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-face-mouth-pout-gif-12435922

see how much room he has

for emoting

[balmy condor]

Look at your forearm. Do you see the red string and the blue string under your skin? They’re tangled in your body

[keen spruce]

toothers can't bottom lip their nose

[balmy condor]

Pull them out

Untangle the strings

Make them nice and straight

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn-nine-nine-terry-jeffords-why-b99-brooklyn99-gif-21715381

We got from sin to dms to coffee vs energy to self harm

[subtle tundra]

pulling my teeth out isnt self harm

its self liberating

[steel spire]

Just rogue shit nbd

[balmy condor]

It’s not self harm

[clever sapphire]

so just a usual day in this channel

[balmy condor]

It’s organizing

[steel spire]

[grim jay]

Organize deez

[grim jay]

True

[viral aurora]

yeah ofc it does! If you have stains, try getting a toothpaste with higher RDA. ask in a pharmacy, they will guide you.

[clever sapphire]

dont you guys have paintbrushes? Just paint your teeth white, no more stains

[grim jay]

As a german I naturally approve organizing tho

[simple gulch]

if you have a headache, just remove your brain

[clever sapphire]

but i have a headache, shouldnt i remove my head?

i dont have a brainache

[cunning needle]

cant have a headache if you dont have a head

[simple gulch]

brain is in your head

[grim jay]

Ngl pastes with too much abrasion are bad af

[balmy condor]

In Spanish they say “the head hurts me”

[cunning needle]

wat

the head? or my head

[viral aurora]

they are, hence why they should be used carefully and for a short duration only.

[balmy condor]

Like in English you say “my leg hurts” or “my head hurts”

[steel spire]

Mi duele la cabeza

[balmy condor]

In Spanish it’s not MY anything

It’s “X thing is hurting me”

[steel spire]

Source spanish rogue

[safe wigeon]

can someone explain snapshot easily?

[balmy condor]

Me* duele

[grim jay]

Selfcentered!

[balmy condor]

But yeh

[cunning needle]

the brain is hurting me

[grim jay]

Victimization!

[balmy condor]

Cast a 20 second dot during nightstalker. Nightstalker drops, the entire dot stays empowered

[grim jay]

[slate crown]

So you’re saying they’re foreign entities on my body hurting me and I should remove them? They’re just dead weight anyways

[balmy condor]

Now you’re getting it

[safe wigeon]

thanks

[clever sapphire]

do you reaaaaally need your legs for wow? i dont think so

could sell those for extra wow tokens

[keen spruce]

shave your eyebrows

[balmy condor]

Me after walking for more than 15 minutes

The feet are hurting me

[grim jay]

I wonder if you could actually sell them. Dunno who buys legs

[cunning needle]

languages are wild

[keen spruce]

i mean people will by them

just not for medical purposes

[clever sapphire]

if you dont find a buyer, grill them to medium rare, make a few good burgers, profit

[steel spire]

Omw to buy eyebrows

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/personal-space-rickand-morty-gif-11240922

[balmy condor]

Just shave your eyebrows and your head for max aerodynamics

[whole mason]

extra keybindings, do not underestimate legs and feets

[jade river]

Jesus the amount of debuffs on even the default blizzard nameplates is insane on assassin rogue

[balmy condor]

Debuff class

[slate crown]

Ngl having a peddle keybind sounds fun

[clever sapphire]

how much dps gain is that, i need the numbers

[keen spruce]

really you should be pluckin out the fingernails for aero

[balmy condor]

5% speed

[keen spruce]

since we're playin on keyboard

[jade river]

How do you even manage that? Do you just igore weapon poison and other debuffs?

[steel spire]

We use keyboards? Xbox controller goes hard

[clever sapphire]

not sure what the blizzard default nameplate is tracking, but just tracking all the bleeds over an enemy should be more than enough

[jade river]

Everything

Let me do a screenshoot

[clever sapphire]

also consider that deathmark doubles your bleeds on an enemy, so if its not turned off, you will have 6 bleeds instead of 3

[quiet oar]

If you replace the eyebrows with RGB LED Stripes its 50% more

[clever sapphire]

i dont do rgb, i live in the dark

[balmy condor]

Yeah I hide like Deathmark duplicates, amp poison, iron wire

All sorts of shit

Anyways drunkspyr came up with a joke

Why do educators not make money?
||capitalism||

Thanks I’ll be here all week

[quiet oar]

I miss Drunkspyr

[clever sapphire]

drunk raid stream when

[subtle tundra]

i had such a fun raid last week, being drunk to the max

i played ranged on sark for the first time, deep into alcohol

[balmy condor]

Little but drunkspyr atm

[jade river]

And it's not all of them 😄

[balmy condor]

Good enough to type

[clever sapphire]

ye you could take off 90% of those

[cunning needle]

go on, spell my name again

[viral aurora]

for sure remove duplicates at the very least

[jade river]

But you can't with default UI right?

[quiet oar]

Yeha but its not authentic with good typing

[clever sapphire]

its default nameplate so he cant

thats the issue

[balmy condor]

Yeah so mine would show that

[simple gulch]

Nice paint

[balmy condor]

Caustic would be a color change on the bar

Deathmark is a highlight

[simple gulch]

I love default nameplate

am i dumb

[balmy condor]

No but maybe tism

[jade river]

I mean they're clean but don't have enough info

[simple gulch]

aucostic?

[balmy condor]

Artistic

[simple gulch]

[jade river]

Why are you tracking deadly poison?

[balmy condor]

The best thing my tipsy ass can say about the blizzard default nameplates is “it could always just be the visual manifestation of the anti-Christ, so ya know, always grateful for what you have”

[simple gulch]

beautiful

[balmy condor]

In case my poison chance sucks ass and I need to tab over in cleave and apply poisons for energy

[jade river]

You use plater?

[viral aurora]

what´s the highest KB in 1 use you guys get in the opener?! Median to highest?! I feel like mine is slightly low and I can´t figure out why.

[jade river]

I haven't found a single profile that I actually like for plater

[balmy condor]

I do

Oh I have another one for blizzard nameplates

[raven egret]

Sup my Sin friends, after more testing I decided to Sin for the early progression. Sub isn't cutting it for me as it is, so I'll flex to it later 🙂

Will replace threats plates with Plater as I rather like the debuff tracking options on it!

[balmy condor]

At least the blizzard nameplates don’t have a consciousness to realize that they live in a world where their governments don’t reflect the will of the people

[daring sphinx]

Whispyr I noticed that in the wowhead trinket list, the Coiled serpent idol is there 2 times under A+ and A.

[balmy condor]

Yeah

It’s just that good

[daring sphinx]

😂

[simple gulch]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[balmy condor]

Idk I’m probably a fucking idiot

I’ll look at it tomorrow

[subtle tundra]

no, youre not stupid beuatiful

man im listening to a song named "you have legs that are too long" and idk why i like it, it dont even sound that good

[rustic minnow]

did i read somewhere that some of the paracausal trinkets at 450 are better then beacon atm?

[simple gulch]

Is there a luxthos edit

Ignore

[keen spruce]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1149942122414342234/1149953070059499673/image.png?ex=65585840&is=6545e340&hm=b9103875367f3c6b450e7e4269e56172ef1ad7f6ac9ad23b6c5263e22e42286d&=

scana did this one on ptr but i think they found a way to do bigger ones

but this isn't with our current opener or anything

we were just goofin

[flint tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/blow-gif-26505369

[viral aurora]

yeah highest I got yesterday was 1,7mill I think. Just can´t seem to get higher.

[balmy condor]

Idk probably

[keen spruce]

actually come to think of it, our goofin did sort of end up becoming how we're handling it now for the most part

[jade river]

What is the Pooling practice tool?

[balmy condor]

450 paracausal sounds good to me

[keen spruce]

a tool to practice pooling

[flint tusk]

To help you practice pooling

[balmy condor]

God I love this channel

You guys are great

[jade river]

Wow great teaching right here 😄

[flint tusk]

The level if passive aggression is on point 😂

[keen spruce]

this is my new favorite call-response in this discord

[balmy condor]

Also the alcohol is taking over bit by bit if anyone asks I’m never this nice sober

[balmy condor]

Do you know what pooling is

[viral aurora]

so how do you handle it!? you mind dming me your opener?!

[flint tusk]

That’s a lie.

[lucid rain]

It's true, I've seen him verbally dismantle someone before

[keen spruce]

i'd just install it and go smack a dummy. it's pretty intuitive when you look at it

[jade river]

I'm currenlty reading the wow article to know 😄

[simple gulch]

You're always nice, are you an alcoholic?

[balmy condor]

Perfect

[balmy condor]

If you think I’m always nice you need to hang around here more

[keen spruce]

i mean i have no memory of what were doin in ptr. that was super early on. but right now i'd just do the one on wowhead

[raven egret]

I thought drinking was a requirement to even be here

[balmy condor]

Or just follow either of the sap’s around

[flint tusk]

HE’S DOING THE THING!!!!!

[balmy condor]

Or Soviet

Or wildsoul

Wait there’s actually so many people I will scream at

[simple gulch]

Good point

[balmy condor]

That’s not good

[simple gulch]

Will you scream at me

[keen spruce]

I got yelled at by whispyr once in S1 then i became a good duck

[simple gulch]

😳

[balmy condor]

No you haven’t done anything stupid yet

[flint tusk]

Whispyr isn’t normie nice.
He’s gamer based which is far far better

[simple gulch]

btw

i got 9% haste now

[balmy condor]

Nice

[keen spruce]

[flint tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-gif-19329692

[balmy condor]

I’d almost consider you sentient

[lucid rain]

For aoe, I'm reading this:

[balmy condor]

You are indeed reading that

[lucid rain]

that implies I'm casting garrote on cooldown while tabbing yeah?

fuck you whispyr

:)

[clever sapphire]

for all my cursed takes, whispyr didnt scream at me yet, kinda surprised

[balmy condor]

If that’s what you need to do to keep your energy up, sure

[simple gulch]

btw how do you do damage as sin in bracken

mobs die too fast

the non elite ones

[lucid rain]

ty

[simple gulch]

[viral aurora]

let me whispyr you here. "do higher keys"

[simple gulch]

i can't really garrote every mob can i

[raven egret]

Caustic spatter the hell out o em 🤣

[lucid rain]

play poison bomb and kill them first before anyone else gets to them

[balmy condor]

God you’re so real for that

[simple gulch]

this would work if we were in legion

[lucid rain]

good ol' mantle + pb procs

[balmy condor]

The golden answer to “things are dying before I can do X”

“Do harder content where that doesn’t happen”

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[lucid rain]

that's my wolverine picture meme moment

[simple gulch]

Whispyr do you work out

[keen spruce]

there's a Whispyr rage scale that starts at like a sarcastic , goes to like a "i have no idea what i just read", to [insert vague threats of self harm if stupidity continues], to "goddamnit not this shit again", to "please stfu", to then screaming at you

[balmy condor]

I wish

I sweat at the thought of working out

[keen spruce]

what a coincidence i also sweat at the thought of you working out

[simple gulch]

[rare ledge]

[quiet oar]

Whispyr typing long

[balmy condor]

If you want to get a whispyr answer, you can just check if any of the following things answer your question:

1. Stats don’t matter I have no idea what my haste is don’t ask
2. Yeah, I said restealths don’t matter, cry about it idk
3. What? You’re struggling to maintain insert debuff/do an opener rotation properly? Skill issue
4. Think for like 3 seconds and try and imagine the situations where this applies. Yeah, maybe once every 35 keys. Why does anyone care about that
5. You actually have no clue what you’re talking about and the lack of knowledge is so strong that I cannot actually understand what the question even is. Read a guide and come back

[hollow dirge]

a letter for every inch

[balmy condor]

If any of those apply to what you’re about to say

You can just read that to yourself

Same experience

[smoky horizon]

‘But is Sin better then Outlaw’

[keen spruce]

5 is my favorite to

[raven egret]

I like 2, 2 is nice, my tanks love 2

[keen spruce]

when fundamental lack of understanding is so deep that you'd have to teach them things they should have learned in highschool before ever even getting to the rogue stuff

[willow rapids]

Whispyr thinking that anyone asking those questions would read the list before asking them

[kindred carbon]

why does DTB build not take thistle tea?

[simple gulch]

What do you do when you can't resealth in combat and you have to reapply garrotes?

just deal with it

?

[kindred carbon]

Call your tank stinky

[balmy condor]

When you get a dm asking why caustic spatter isn’t working and it’s an image of them autoing a dummy that doesn’t have rupture on it, so you have to breathe in so deeply that you start coughing

[simple gulch]

that's not gonna help my dps

[simple gulch]

💀

there's no way

[solar bramble]

what's the spreadsheet command?

!spreadsheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[quasi geode]

Breaths so deep vacuums start spawning

[lucid rain]

"Whispyr starts casting deep breath"

[solar bramble]

that doesn't seem to show the difference between dance and non dance builds

and my god outlaws AoE lol

[simple gulch]

guys i can't press mutilate

why??

[solar bramble]

do you have 2 daggers equipped?

[balmy condor]

Yep. If your tank isn’t an idiot, chaining is a huge dps gain, and venomous wounds will give you energy back from the ruptures on dying targets right. As those targets die, the energy easily carries you into the next pack. If you know that the tank is chaining, like he starts dragging to the next pack or he has a history of chaining packs close together, or there isn’t a long way to run, whatever it may be, you can hold vanish or dance for it

[snow kindle]

you have 2 swords on

[balmy condor]

It’s like 2-3%

[simple gulch]

I'm memeing btww

I know why i can't

[solar bramble]

no-dance is behidn 2-3%?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[balmy condor]

Yeah but you see how quickly people believed you? We’re all scarred and traumatized at this point

[kindred carbon]

lol

[simple gulch]

Yep that was very telling

[solar bramble]

this is going to take awhiel to get all 3 specs down lol

[crisp pine]

Is that an exsanguinate bind?

[simple gulch]

i just switched now

please forgive me

[plucky canopy]

Keep it

[simple gulch]

it was a passive from last season

[kindred carbon]

Exanguinate is DEAD

[raven egret]

It's a learning experience for some

[plucky canopy]

Exanguinate is bae

[solar bramble]

finally

[simple gulch]

if i remove it i won't ever be able to put it in my bars

it's gonna stay there

until the end of times

[plucky canopy]

[raven egret]

Hey I sorta kinda liked exsang..

[quiet oar]

Have you tried turning it off and on again

[balmy condor]

You can only answer the “what poisons do we use” question so many times before your brain fully rots and you just have to believe that everyone is serious

Because like, we talent into 2 poisons, on our spec tree

So surely we don’t use those right

[kindred carbon]

Guys why doesnt DTB run thistle tea im a bad player and run out of energy and pressing my thistle tea hotkey

[quiet oar]

[balmy condor]

We just put those points into them for fun

[simple gulch]

what the fuck my bar disappeared, I had 3 action bars

nvm

weird stuff

[balmy condor]

If it’s the m+ build that doesn’t run tea it takes acro instead because of the utility

[quiet oar]

I love the questions in Outlaw and here when people aks "Do we really need to skill shadowdance"

[balmy condor]

Running out of energy is normal though that’s the intended design of the spec

[kindred carbon]

ah ok ty

[quiet oar]

Like if the Name was a Different one, 50% of the people wouldnt Complain about sd in class tree

[steel spire]

Dfa button stays on the bars babe

[simple gulch]

I use instant poison

[balmy condor]

Sarkareth adds die in 7-8 seconds, and wound poison does a third of the damage of deadly poison, and wound poison also takes about 12-15 gcds to fully stack.

Yeah I think I’m gonna run wound poison that seems very smart

[simple gulch]

i use poison as per the dangerousness of the names

[quiet oar]

I knew it. Telling the bois its the play thanks whisp

[steel spire]

Haste buff to apply faster 💪

[simple gulch]

Deadly >> anything

[willow rapids]

But what poisons do we really use? I know there's secret ones whispyr keeps to himself

[raven egret]

Just crippling, heard that works well

[balmy condor]

Yeah you always run wound poison, secret pro tip

That way I can filter for the damage source by spell id in logs

And block everyone who comes up

[simple gulch]

There's a secret trick with atrophic poison but no one will tell you what it is

[balmy condor]

Because if you use wound poison in pve on Assassination rogue I want nothing to do with you

Stay back foul beast

[willow rapids]

🤣

[simple gulch]

I use wound poison on assault

[crisp pine]

Idk wounding people sounds pretty good to me

[simple gulch]

[steel spire]

Wound has a sick icon

[simple gulch]

It was on outlaw so that is better

[whole mason]

I once suggested if KB cannot exist with DTB simultaneously, we could have KB instantly apply 3 deadly poisons for 14s so no one feels left out

[balmy condor]

Anyone who uses wound poison on pve Assassination actually should just be unable to spec into Assassination

Blizzard needs to add a lock feature

That just disables that button for them

[scarlet orbit]

what am i reading here?

[crisp pine]

applying wound poison actually just respeccs you to outlaw

[whole mason]

I used it some occasions last tier as healing reduction.

[quiet oar]

Wound poison bis for sin

[steel spire]

I agree make wound baseline

[raven egret]

Think we are revisiting the virtues of Wound poison in pve

[balmy condor]

It’s like a Disneyland ride, you must be this tall to go on the ride

Except it’s “you must be able to run this many braincells together”

[scarlet orbit]

ok i go back to sleep and let you guys cook

[quiet oar]

Im joking

[balmy condor]

I don’t know how to tell you this…

[scarlet orbit]

i know no one would belive that should would make sense

[quiet oar]

As sin?!?

[whole mason]

who was the boss, i cannot remember the name, the one at gate

[steel spire]

F lost rogue pass bro

[quiet oar]

[whole mason]

just for like 10s after the phase change?

[quiet oar]

Wake up

[crisp pine]

Baleroc, the Gatekeeper

[balmy condor]

I actually don’t care what boss it is lmao

You played Assassination

And you used wound poison

[simple gulch]

caustic spatter owns

is this a good KB tick

[balmy condor]

Dumbass

[raven egret]

I think the screenshot above didn't clue people in enough about using wound on any boss XD

[chilly vault]

I mean. If a lot of people are frustrated with their gameplay being decided by another player - it's valid to complain about it. A lot of stuff that "doesn't matter" but "feel bad" to playerbase gets changed. Being mad at that will only reward you with a bald spot from all of the stress.

[steel spire]

They wounded cause team didn't do enough damage

[simple gulch]

whispyr, i was joking btw, I never used wound poison on sin

[balmy condor]

I know you haven’t

Plenty of people asked me about it for sarkareth

[simple gulch]

what's your biggest KB tick?

[scarlet orbit]

got asked by my raid lead once

[balmy condor]

What was your answer

[scarlet orbit]

why the hell he didnt know that sucks when he only play assa rogue

[quiet oar]

I mean as sub or Outlaw its whatever

[balmy condor]

YES

AMEN

YES LORD

YOURE RIGHT

THATS THE RIGHT ANSWER

[steel spire]

Tell them have hunter use mortal strike pet yolo

[raven egret]

If I have to explain to my lead how damage works, I'm out

[steel spire]

Or run warrior

[quiet oar]

Did He win a prize?

[balmy condor]

Or demon hunter

[scarlet orbit]

not in that guild anymore 😄

[balmy condor]

Demon hunters get it for basically free

Windwalker too I think

Half the classes in this game can get it

And it doesn’t need time to stack up for them

And also doesn’t instantly lose them like 3.5% dps

[whole mason]

yea, and they figure 10mins and still we dont have that healing reduction

[balmy condor]

That’s not your problem

[whole mason]

i didnt use it the whole thing; just swapped it before he jumping away

[balmy condor]

Still a dumbass

[quiet oar]

Yeah but ww its st

[simple gulch]

Remember when outlaw and sub couldn't use posions and it was only sin?

[placid snow]

So like looking at priority.. when do we actually use Crimson Tempest?

[simple gulch]

I think it was in legion

right?

[simple gulch]

last in prio

[placid snow]

Seems like 9 x outta 10 there's something higher prio

[balmy condor]

2 targets after you have energy regen from gar/rupt and got your cooldowns out

[simple gulch]

so is last in prio correct?

[balmy condor]

I mean considering every other bleed and all your cooldowns take priority

[tacit oar]

Was wound poison a thing on dreadlords in shadowlands S4 ?

[balmy condor]

It’s gonna be low down on the list

[simple gulch]

honestly, why would you need wound poison on a boss when there's plenty of specs that have better healing reduction like arms

or monk

[balmy condor]

Was wound poison a thing on dreadlords in shadowlands S4 ?

Fixed that for you, and no

[simple gulch]

and it's free

[placid snow]

bruh aoe looks bare complicated

[simple gulch]

it seems complicated

but it's very straightforward

[balmy condor]

It’s a lot of plate spinning

That’s basically all there is to it

[steel spire]

Idk if they fixed but hunter pet was 50% rest are 25 ?

[balmy condor]

You get up all your bleeds

And then just cooldowns

And then your bleeds run out

[simple gulch]

neat

[balmy condor]

So you get up more bleeds

And then you cooldowns again

Which gets up bleeds

And then those bleeds run out

[raven egret]

Caustic is ❤️

[balmy condor]

So you have get more bleeds up

[simple gulch]

Kingsbane is insane prio damage

caustic spatter doesn't damage the target it's on, right?

[indigo mulch]

and it cleaves via caustic 😮

[simple gulch]

yeah, it's poison

[balmy condor]

Do you want the actual answer or the answer of how it should be

[simple gulch]

Both if they're short

[keen spruce]

am I high or id you screen shot you wow client then snipping tool the screen shot?

[simple gulch]

yes, I did

[keen spruce]

instead of just snipping tooling your wow client

[simple gulch]

actually no, i snipping tooled it directly