assassination

[balmy condor]

fuck leveling

you're so real for that

[thorn fjord]

Or coerce your guildies to power level you

Proposition feet pics

[gilded oasis]

Timewalkin time

[gusty mirage]

????????

[thorn fjord]

For PL's

[keen spruce]

whipsyr the kid that asks if there's homework when the bell rings

smh

[drifting cloud]

just sell the feet pics buy wow tokens and buy all the power leveling

[thorn fjord]

True

Then use the money left over to buy mcchickens

[drifting cloud]

[rare marlin]

what is easyer to raid as a noob rogue like me sin or sub ?

[thorn fjord]

Prob sub

Rotation is pretty simple

[keen spruce]

I think if you're asking the sin channel most of us will say sin but I've heard that a lot of people have a slightly harder time picking up assas

both are fairly easy though

compared to a lot of other specs

[thorn fjord]

Think if you're coming in with no background knowledge sin might be a little overwhelming

[keen spruce]

yeah that's kind of what i've heard

from the masses

but once you get a few core things down, both specs are pretty simple

[thorn fjord]

Yeah

[keen spruce]

like the buttons you press in dance are basically always the same

assas just get used to using sepsis correctly tracking imp garrote then just press everything else roughly on CD

[gusty mirage]

[keen spruce]

[thorn fjord]

shiv management too

[keen spruce]

I'd consider shiv management more of an intermediate step

[gusty mirage]

this is not true

[slate crown]

You don't have to properly learn shiv management right away, you can get into Sin before doing that and do ok

[gusty mirage]

at all actually

[gaunt moat]

@keen spruce Please, i beg you, get the updated sepsis WA, it's better.

[slate crown]

you'll eventually learn it

[thorn fjord]

How long ago did you update it?

[keen spruce]

okay i delete

[gaunt moat]

today

[keen spruce]

i didn't wanna type more about sub so i tossed a throw away line

[gaunt moat]

but he still has the first version

[thorn fjord]

oh nice good to know

[balmy condor]

okay, @gilded oasis @thorn fjord @winged veldt @brazen zodiac which one of you's is dropping me a dagger today

[keen spruce]

I like first version

[thorn fjord]

🤚

[brazen zodiac]

me boss!

[gusty mirage]

doesn't want me to funnel

[balmy condor]

do you have it?

[keen spruce]

oxi are you guys reclearing

and can i come

[gusty mirage]

ofc I have it

[keen spruce]

we're taking a 2 week break

[gusty mirage]

not my call bromigo

[balmy condor]

fuck you "OFC I HAVE IT"

[thorn fjord]

lolol

[gaunt moat]

the timer i added really helps to let you know if you can squeeze another GCD or not before sepsis expires

[thorn fjord]

rubbing it in

[gusty mirage]

fuck you mr. vacation in germany while I was doing that piece of shit dungeon every week

[brazen zodiac]

i should've given you the dagger when i got it whisp >.<

[balmy condor]

nah you need that shit, I'm just suffering from success

[keen spruce]

then let me talk to your manager

[brazen zodiac]

surely sakareth dies tonight whisp :o

we omega phase 3 :D

[thorn fjord]

In game whenever you wanna start this rodeo @balmy condor

[brazen zodiac]

dagger carry cx

[lament aurora]

Dagger is sim bait

[gusty mirage]

judging by the roster

prolly won't do much

[thorn fjord]

@brazen zodiac looks like we're both in the same situation lol... got to 11% sunday... HES GOTTA DIE TONIGHT

[brazen zodiac]

im also logging on now whisp if it's time 💃

like, he has to die right?

[gusty mirage]

I can also tank the dungeon

if needed

[brazen zodiac]

i mean, it's either him or me at this point

[gilded oasis]

I can but looks like you have enough people now

[thorn fjord]

aaannnnnd one of our locks just called out an hour late for today 😦

[gusty mirage]

if we can trust you monkeys to not stand in bad

we can 4 rogue 1 prot pally it

[brazen zodiac]

what if i am the bad oxi?

[balmy condor]

I'm just gonna do this

[gusty mirage]

k logging on the pally

[balmy condor]

cause ally/horde invites

are fucked

as hell

[balmy condor]

you tryna tank?

[gusty mirage]

sure

first 2 only

[balmy condor]

yah

[gilded oasis]

we only do full dungeon hardmode clears actually

[brazen zodiac]

quick and clean fullclears only.

[gaunt moat]

Can you carry my level 1 chracter i just made on US server?

[brazen zodiac]

for a limb or two, perhaps :o

[gaunt moat]

does it have to be mine?

[brazen zodiac]

now we're talking

[balmy condor]

do I have the ability to carry it? sure

do I particularly want to?

not really

[gaunt moat]

Then it's settled! thanks!

[balmy condor]

who's this

is this someone

[gusty mirage]

we doing the 4 rogue tech

or what

[balmy condor]

can your paladin do that

[brazen zodiac]

still waiting on my WoW to open, lul

[gusty mirage]

I mean I got some pretty decent gear

is 444.5 ilvl enough

[balmy condor]

idk you tell me

[gusty mirage]

I think I'll be ok

[balmy condor]

you're the tank and the healer

do you think you can do that

[slate crown]

Still need another rogue?

[balmy condor]

yeh

you have dagger?

[slate crown]

Yeah I already have

[balmy condor]

perf

[winged veldt]

You need me nerd? lol

[balmy condor]

not with lisonna

[winged veldt]

GOODLUCK!

[gaunt moat]

@gusty mirage They're playing sin, they don't have AoE!

[thorn fjord]

i went sub lol

[gaunt moat]

and you're more than all 3 combined

[shy pecan]

Four rogues and Oxi

[gilded oasis]

imagine 4 rogues and the tank gets a belt

[gusty mirage]

[thorn fjord]

Jesus man

[shy pecan]

That's what happened to me and llmch on Sunday xddd

[slate crown]

Yeah I just went sub for trash then sin for boss

[slate crown]

I had my shit all fucked up from testing, I forgot I didn't have ER

[gusty mirage]

whoever decided

to make wog cost mana

I hope their mom calls them and tells them that they're not loved anymore

[shy pecan]

[thorn fjord]

Hey you still pulled it off @gusty mirage

[gusty mirage]

bro

[thorn fjord]

No heals master

[gusty mirage]

I have to carry water now

what the fuck

never playing prot pally again

ggs only

[thorn fjord]

No clue why you'd play it to begin with tbh

[shy pecan]

[thorn fjord]

See if you were bear you could have rolled as feral and gotten the dagger for him

[gusty mirage]

cause I like prot pally

[thorn fjord]

but noooooo

[gusty mirage]

does it even drop for feral

[shy pecan]

It doesn't

[thorn fjord]

oh lmao

[gusty mirage]

ferals can't use daggers

idk why people keep thinking they can

legion was like 18 years ago old man

get back inside

[thorn fjord]

Ive never played a druid

ever in my life

[gusty mirage]

this is my honest reaction:

[thorn fjord]

lol

[shy pecan]

[thorn fjord]

Rejection is a tool we use to calibrate our hearts

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gif-6815166390687140758

[hallow token]

Was looking at the blue comments with the assassination changes. I'm glad they observed our damage doesn't scale up to higher difficulty levels. In LFR, in certain pulls, with the DTB/IC build, I can be top 4 on DPS, and am usually in the top 6 on bosses with it, but I would see the weekly ratings based on mythic, and we're sort of capped. So, here's hoping the upcoming changes they are going to make will do what they say they will.

[gaunt moat]

https://tenor.com/view/apple-dog-sword-cute-adorable-gif-14904592

[waxen pagoda]

Hey guys I need help, I was wondering if Atrophic Poison reduction damage stacks with Devotion Aura

Im not sure how to know about that

[last glen]

What poisons should i use in m+ currently? new player

[gusty mirage]

they do

[gusty mirage]

amp & deadly

[waxen pagoda]

Thank you very much

[gusty mirage]

[waxen pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/bayonetta-gif-18929486

[sonic zinc]

are faq builds up to date?

might run some sin today in keys for fun

lol

[gaunt moat]

yes. but you're not going to have fun.

[sonic zinc]

i know

i tried at the beginning of 10.1 and havent touched sin much since

but shrug

needa get some level of muscle memory back for the spec

[lucid birch]

Love deep dish big fan

[bold temple]

I have dagger if you any of you need for 2nd boss

[pure moth]

@agile osprey @keen spruce we still running again?

[keen spruce]

[pure moth]

im on early. so whenever you guys want

[keen spruce]

just finished a tft game. loggin in

[pure moth]

ok

[balmy condor]

@thorn fjord

Reseated my gpu, my ram, the back fan on my cpu cooler wasn’t spinning, so I had to reinstall the fan

Everything back together

I posted

1 of my 2 ram sticks isn’t showing

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

Time to reseat the ram again

[keen spruce]

but did u get daggie today

[balmy condor]

No

[bold temple]

Download some new ram

[keen spruce]

:f

[balmy condor]

I ran my boss, oxi on his Paladin and 4 rogues

And the boss dropped plate belt

[keen spruce]

mook, kriz and I have been running it for many weeks

[earnest remnant]

im also still dagger less

[keen spruce]

but for the first like

4 weeks mook and I were in OL loot spec

[balmy condor]

And then I opened maplestory and my pc hard crashed, no blue screen just straight dump

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

I restart

Insta freeze

Crash

So now I’ve been rebuilding my pc for the last 2 hours

[ember mural]

[balmy condor]

Oh hey my other ram stick lit up

Time to restart

:)

[keen spruce]

@agile osprey

[earnest remnant]

sounds like you have had a fun day whispyr

[candid geyser]

Time to spin up that OF whispyr and get that new PC. Then your chat command can actually have a link!

[agile osprey]

oh almost forgor

coming

[keen spruce]

[pure moth]

tbh i forgot it was tuesday. looked at clock and said oh crap

[keen spruce]

@gusty mirage wanna tank first 2 of mega dungeon again

[agile osprey]

Yeah same. I took a weekend vacation and had yesterday off so i thought today was monday

[thorn fjord]

Atleast it posted

Try pulling the cmos battery out too for about a minute

[balmy condor]

I don’t think I’m gonna be breaking the thing apart again any time soon

[thorn fjord]

Just rolling with half the amount of ram?

[balmy condor]

nah I got the ram to work

[sonic zinc]

is it worth it running ap build for raging weeks lol

[strange trail]

Is the irideus fragment trinket still over simming?

[shut owl]

worth going bonespike for M zskarn or nah?

[balmy condor]

nah

rdps mechanic

[shut owl]

was more just wondering if the reset cp bonus justified

[keen spruce]

it is. but it's simming is not going to change the fact that it's bad

if the sims were fixed then it would show it's bad. so if it's showing as good then you can be confident that the sims are not fixed

[strange trail]

okay, thank you!

[spice spire]

You can

It ain’t worth

[pure moth]

35% prog

[storm belfry]

[kind veldt]

Do you hold your first vanish on opener

to line up with Deathmark again

[frigid kestrel]

Soooo... Anything i should know about Sarc? We finally got on Mythic Sarc, not sure if we have time for a kill but ill take some tips

[spice spire]

You got six weeks

[spice spire]

Yes

[brazen zodiac]

ur cute

[spice spire]

No u

[gaunt moat]

@blazing jewel you weren't joking 😂

adds damage

[blazing jewel]

its true

[gaunt moat]

i did like 4.5m on adds last kill

otherwise they just don't die

[minor aurora]

is wowanalyzer updated for sin rogue? to see what we can do better?

[balmy condor]

yes

[minor aurora]

okay thank you! im switching to sin rogue for next tier so was doing some practice in heroic today and just wanted to make sure im doing things somewhat right

i do think my haste was way too low lol

[spice spire]

Did you update sepsis? Or is it perfect outside that whole bit? (Actual question not trolling)

[minor aurora]

okay so my biggest issue im seeing is im wasting or not using vanish enough

[balmy condor]

Topple fixed sepsis

[spice spire]

My goat

[light warren]

im very confused. how the hell is this 39 parse lmao

rashok

[balmy condor]

because it's an ilvl parse

and those are weird af

[spice spire]

That’s a 79

[balmy condor]

yeh

that's a 79

[light warren]

but isnt the 79 count like 380 ilvl dudes who are just throwing up logs?

maybe im wrong about reading logs

[oak sky]

usually bad players also have bad gear and good players have good gear so it sort of doesnt matter

[balmy condor]

ilvl parses have the opposite issues, you got the bros with 457 trinket and cloak but shit other gear, and you got the bad trinket havers but great rest of their gear

ilvl parses in that regard are even more volatile

cause there's usually a really small amount of people in the band

especially if it's not a common range

so you end up with like people that should be 448, but they have a heroic sark cloak and a mega dungeon dagger and a heroic bomb dispenser dragging down their ilvl

[minor aurora]

i have a question, im misusing my vanish but unsure on when to use it to have it sync up with deathmark

[balmy condor]

with sepsis there's kinda 2 mentalities for vanish

the first is "sepsis makes my brain hurt, I hold vanish for deathmark every 2 minutes and pretend the voices don't exist"

[runic hinge]

[balmy condor]

the second is "I'm the gigachad 0.1% min-maxer, I'm gonna vanish after the opener sepsis garrotes fade to get more imp gar uptime, and then I'm gonna hold the 1:30 sepsis until 1:40 to make sure the imp gar from that covers the deathmark at 2:00, and then I'm gonna think about the kill time and hold my 3:10 sepsis or my 2:30 vanish to sync up with the 4:00 deathmark. By doing so I have gotten +1 vanish casts and that's a full 18 seconds more imp gar uptime and I'm better"

so

pick your evil

[light warren]

wait if i have 2 second imp garrot and deathmark does it extend it?

[minor aurora]

i feel like i should do the latter of the two but i am imo not at that level of sin rogue, i love the spec but i was looking at wow analyzer and most of my problems are holding vanish and sometimes casting envenom during pandemic of rupture which i shouldn't, im parsing purple/orange parses for the most part with 1 pink but i want to strive to do better

[balmy condor]

if you have 2 seconds left on your gar and you deathmark, it duplicates the 2 second gar

[minor aurora]

but also dont think my brain thinks of that timing stuff as easily as others can lol

[light warren]

wow analyzer will always say holding vanish bad but the main consensus i see is just hold it till 2 min deathmark

[balmy condor]

If you're parsing orange and a pink, you're already playing great

just proc more bozo

[minor aurora]

true i think i need to focus on not casting envenom during pandemic and that should increase my dmg

[balmy condor]

sophic? proc more
class trinket? proc more

[minor aurora]

also during reclear because ive been playing rogue as alt but mainly sub i did reclear with 1% haste lol

but i did reclear as sin

sims tell me i need a bit more haste lol

and also plan to switch boots from slimy to toxic cause well i plan to 1 trick sin in 10.2

[brazen zodiac]

proc deez nuts

[sonic zinc]

EVERY TIME I RUN DOTI, I GET LOOT OFF FIRST BOSS BUT NEVER NICK OF TIME

I HATE THIS

my group decided to sit me for first boss next week to try and increase my chances lol

[minor aurora]

bro, on my dh they have two weapons from first boss and it took me forever to get the one i needed

[pure moth]

when i ran it with mook and shmeeps, they both got boots off first boss. luck lost

[granite grail]

What im starting to learn is if you dont have literally every raid buff including windfury, you can forget about parsing

[storm heath]

is call to suffering more or less rng than beacon?

[velvet bridge]

!guides

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[balmy condor]

Probably more

[storm heath]

what about fights like sark where you can multidot 1-3 adds

[hushed fable]

Why would that change anything?

[magic meadow]

Will it happen in the future patch that the Assa in M+ and raids can possibly stand better than now in this current season?

[static glacier]

it will deffo stand better than this season in m+

[hushed fable]

No? Yes? Maybe? It may happen but at the same time it also may not. Maybe you will be able to see it with your own eyes but then again there is also a possibility that you will lose your sight till then. So who knows what future holds?

[static glacier]

ptr sin is out of the dark ages, DtB + IC

[hushed fable]

Tuning can still change everything. Just sayin.

[magic meadow]

okay?? With you everything in order? I just wanted to ask about the current status in the PTR about the spec wtf. Relax once.

[hushed fable]

If you wanted to ask that, then there is a ptr section of assa rogue and there are pins where you can find answers to your questions. Cuz they are super common.

[viral meadow]

are there any bosses in aberus that prefer numbing over atrophic?

[drifting cloud]

no

[wooden radish]

Kinda learning assassination, I was wondering if its worth overwriting a normal garrote with improved garrote using vanish during deathmark asap, even when the normal garrote duration is still higher than the pandemic threshold? Additionally is it worth pooling energy before using Envenom, and how much energy would be ideal if recommended?

[keen spruce]

yes, not really

pooling is extremely marginal and generally considered not worth the headache on live right now

but you'd basically just be pooling until envenom is about to run out as long as you're not capping on energy

[wooden radish]

Ah ok, I was just wondering as I can make a weakaura for myself to help me manage this easily under certain conditions (tracking envenom buff duration, energy ofc, and also amp poison stacks).

[keen spruce]

luxthos or afenar both track all of those things

[wooden radish]

aye, currently using Afenar, but was wanting to improve the current envenom one to show energy inside it, as well as the duration and amp stacks it currently has

[keen spruce]

but you don't play around amp poison at all. and I really wouldn't worry about tracking the rest. your envenom uptime is gonna be well over 90% anyways

[wooden radish]

its probably overkill

[wooden radish]

ah thats good to know, thank you for answering my questions 😄

I'll just stick to the baseline afenars then

[keen spruce]

you may wanna check out whispyr's edit

same layout but some nice functionality like improved garrote tracking and sepsis stuff

[wooden radish]

in the FAQ?

ah the sepsis stuff would be nice, currently the basic afenars doesn't really indicate sepsis stealth ability buffs etc

[keen spruce]

lemmy grab it

[wooden radish]

would be nice to see the one we get after sepsis runs off, i had to make my own for that aura

[keen spruce]

https://wago.io/a4RNXiGN8

[wooden radish]

cheers

[wooden radish]

Sorry last question out of curiosity, can the envenom buff be extended via pandemic when you use envenom again when the duration is 30% or less?

nvm I smacked a dummy to check ingame, yup it does

[keen spruce]

[granite grail]

Isnt it also technically sorta kinda worth pooling for elaborate planning

[slim estuary]

Is wow analyzer a reasonable first place to check my rotation? it was good in legion but I didn't like it in bfa

[midnight mist]

its good for sin rn ye

not for other specs tho

[keen spruce]

it's updated and nice for assas. very good tool

[keen spruce]

technically

[slim estuary]

cool ty

[gaunt moat]

@balmy condor testing new microsoft ai assistant:

[warm void]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[gaunt moat]

The funny part is how it says its from wowhead in 2023.

while it's actually from gameFAQs from like 2004

[granite grail]

I forgot vendetta was a thing

[tall rose]

At what point do we change our stats? I see a lot of rogues using stats that are different than our crit/mastery. also using a lot of vers and vers skillful diamonds.

[limber lion]

When the robot tells you to

You should not look at stats whatsoever

You sim top gear and use whatever gems/enchants the robot suggests

[tall rose]

k, so just click all gems to run or just do the top gear and go from that point @limber lion

[limber lion]

Yes

There is no best stat to go for anymore

Every character is different

Some want vers, some want haste, some want crit, some want mastery

[half gull]

Does anyone have the copypasta for simming all the different runes on wep?

[tall rose]

Awesome, thanks @limber lion. Much appreicated.

[lament aurora]

@blazing jewel another week, another failed attempt to rank 1 zskarn because I get 10% sophic and trinket procs

[vestal wren]

next week for sure

[leaden timber]

quick question, do we macro Dragonfire bomb with our spells so it gets used as soon as its up?

[gaunt moat]

I do

[sweet dawn]

I do because i don't want an extra button

[scenic nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/gamba-gif-25945486

[lucid rune]

Trying to get my ass rogue ready for 10.2, ilvl 414. Any recommendations to gear optimally as a solo player?

[split cipher]

!sims

[prisma monolith]

Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html

[timid coral]

!oce

was there a string to sim all 4 essence buffs?

[bleak sun]

@lucid rune take a boost 9/9 hc for 160k then tag in nhc then lfr

[wooden radish]

is it that much of a big deal (sophic procs + trinket procs)?

currently playing bomb/omnious (hc ilvl ones, cos no vault luck for mythic)

[keen spruce]

yes

ominous is less variance ofc

compared to beacon crits or class tirnket procs

but sophic still a big mother fuk

[wooden radish]

most kills i happen to get 10-15% uptime on sophic

and always procs outside of any cds

Been praying to get echo trinket every week but no drops or vaults 😦

[lament aurora]

yeah theres tons of variance atm

[wooden radish]

Was hoping it couldn't get worse than Outlaw Beacon gamba 😦

[keen spruce]

I completely unscientific wild ass guess / observation is like +/- 5-10k dps based on sophic and class trinket

on like a 6 minute prog kill or somethin idk

[peak wasp]

thristle tea be macros to anything?

[keen spruce]

no

you only use one charge in your opener to get it on CD

then it's just used based on energy

[peak wasp]

k thanks

[lucid rune]

Any assassination purists heading into 10.2? Or do you all dabble with all 3 specs based on situation?

[storm forum]

I'm an assa purist, but I might be in healer jail again idk

[slate crown]

I dabble in Sub/Sin, particularly with 10.1's balancing

[spice spire]

Return of disc-cat

[lament aurora]

i like to dabble with a preference towards outlaw

[worn sorrel]

I am

I might try outlaw but on a diff chata

[storm forum]

bro i swapped back to the dogs are good cause i thought i was out and back to sin, but apparently one of our healers needs to swap to tank and i would rather just heal than watch a cycle of trials pretend they can play disc cause it's a button they can technically press on their talent tree window

[spice spire]

[worn sorrel]

Respect trials u dummy

[storm forum]

no

im being toxic

you cannot stop me

[lucid rune]

Story of my life. Getting peer pressured to go mist for another tier lol

[worn sorrel]

I wanna play assa but always end up as tank (i only do m+)

Sad life

[still laurel]

during a shiv window, is it better to sacrifice the 3rd envenom if it would result in rupture falling off briefly while you build cp back

[drifting turret]

can you get nick of time on mythic track currently?

not sure what the hard mode drops

[storm forum]

i dont think so, i think its only loot from the last boss on hardmode

[scarlet orbit]

nick of time is currently only on 441 but that beats other daggers

[bold drum]

highest version you can get currently is 441

[worn sorrel]

Yeah rn you can only get that dagger in 437 which you can upgrade to 441

[balmy condor]

Close enough

[static glacier]

anyone got a shiv WA that glows when dm is on the boss, shiv is off cd and shiv is not on the boss

I keep forgetting 2nd shiv during dm like a clown

[worn sorrel]

Just get better

[static glacier]

im a man

mechanic happens = shiv timings go out the window xd

[lament aurora]

me when I look down and realize I'm sitting on 2 shiv charges

[sweet dawn]

https://wago.io/r8rwbrOYT

Fresh out the oven

[static glacier]

what's it do Chef Loon

[sweet dawn]

Does what you asked

[static glacier]

just checked, many thanks chief

[sweet dawn]

shows a glowing shiv icon when the boss has DM, but no shiv and shiv is usable

[static glacier]

many thanks

[sweet dawn]

np chief

[spring socket]

hey toxic or slimy boots for assasin ?

[sweet dawn]

Toxic thorn

[winter gale]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[winter gale]

Whats atm bis ring combo for raiding?

[slate crown]

Stats are stats whereever they come from, I just use double crafted

[winter gale]

I have 2x crafted ones but I have Onyx impostor to choose from the Vault

[slate crown]

450 onyx imposter?

[winter gale]

Yes

Ill delay, we will rekill the boss tonight and then I will choose

[balmy condor]

Double crafted rings beat imposter usually

But just sim it

[glass junco]

just killed echo, onto sark we go

[balmy condor]

Gz

Almost there

[fading mason]

is it just for me that leeching poison randomly drops?

[scarlet orbit]

no its a bug mostly when you have a loading screen somewhere

[fading mason]

ah i see

[slate crown]

I'm sure there's an aura in lots of packs and not hard to make, but here's mine I made https://wago.io/R5_enkAe5

Nothing special really

[fading mason]

ty sir

[glass junco]

which is harder, echo or sark, what do u think

[storm forum]

Sark

[keen spruce]

sark for sure

especially as a melee

echo is pretty payphone

[glass junco]

oh my god, yeah, we are not killing this

[storm forum]

80% of echoes difficulty is figuring out how to get the WAs to work

[keen spruce]

yeah i mean they're challenging for different reasons

[glass junco]

there is absolutely no way my guild will kill this in time

[storm forum]

Or in my case, just figuring out what to do without them entirely

[glass junco]

even if we have 2 months ahead of us, we are not killing this 😛

[keen spruce]

how many pulls did it take you guys to kill echo?

[glass junco]

somewhere in the early two hundreds

230?

something like that

[keen spruce]

eh you might have time

[glass junco]

kept dying to enrage

[keen spruce]

we had 230 on echo

[glass junco]

cause people were doing 80k dps

[keen spruce]

killed sark in about 370

and roughly 7.5 weeks

[storm forum]

Sark is a dance boss, so sometimes groups just click with it, sometimes it's an even worse slog

[keen spruce]

but lots of 19 man pulls

and half days

[balmy condor]

[glass junco]

yeah idk, we are on a 2 day schedule

[balmy condor]

Nearly 400 pulls on sark

[glass junco]

i dont see us killing it

[balmy condor]

My mental would be so obliterated

[keen spruce]

about 70 of those were 19 manned

[keen spruce]

ye we're a 6 hour guild

I mean it'll be close

but if your attendance is good you might have time

[glass junco]

honestly, i cant find the motivation to progress this boss 😛

[keen spruce]

sark feels pretty hopeless when you first start too

[storm forum]

race to world last contenders

[keen spruce]

cuz you're getting hard farmed

by p1

breaths goin everywhere, people droppin like flies

[storm forum]

man my guild just passed 300 pulls

looking like a twice as many pulls as echo

[keen spruce]

are you in civil disobedience?

[storm forum]

yeah

wait

[keen spruce]

your wcl is goofed

[storm forum]

oh

[keen spruce]

[storm forum]

im playing priest this tier anyways

[glass junco]

and ofc we killed echo on my worst pull

[keen spruce]

[storm forum]

so i can play KB in heroic guilt free

[keen spruce]

u guys are basically done with sark

[storm forum]

yeah, we just gotta get the last downstairs transition clean

[keen spruce]

literally any random pull

[gilded oasis]

We took like 320 pulls you're almost there

[storm forum]

our best pulls we went down too early so we all came up and died to shit the tank was supposed to solo soak

[gilded oasis]

Of course we spend like 4 hours refilling everytime. Smile

[keen spruce]

yeah gotta wait for the duress to goo out

[frigid kestrel]

We just started on Sarc yesterday. The damage in P1 has people dropping left and right.

[gilded oasis]

We just stay up. It's super messy but going down in a swirly was too hard for us I guess. And the double duress hurts

[keen spruce]

we're gonna stay up on reclears

https://www.twitch.tv/shmeeps_phd/clip/YawningStormyEagleYee-qe4yBM0TriELriPR?featured=false&filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time

this was our first successful go downstairs

it just worked out that we all came up right as the 3 adds finished casting

[gilded oasis]

Ouch

[keen spruce]

and it one deag'd half of our raid

[spice spire]

Wow players can’t go down

This is a known rule

Sorry king ur fucked

[storm forum]

wowee

[keen spruce]

but we killed it

on sunday

[spice spire]

Fake news

Doesn’t fit my narrative

Sorry

[keen spruce]

[storm forum]

you'll high roll next time for sure

[keen spruce]

I was doin 2nd bombs in p2

right as execute started

[gilded oasis]

I was on those for a minute

[keen spruce]

like one one hand

[gilded oasis]

Then I weaseled my way off

[keen spruce]

I was happy to do them with our ret

cuz we can be trusted

I think in total we fucked up our bombs like 2-3 times for all of prog

but on the other hand

[gilded oasis]

I do have to solo soak first black hole and sometimes they put those out in Africa and I just watch my sepsis buff drain down

[keen spruce]

my damage just got hard dicked

solo soak?

like you + the target?

what does that accomplish

[storm forum]

i thought it was baiting it to go on you

by going down earlier and having 0 stacks

[keen spruce]

if you do a bomb yeah

but zar said he's not doin that

[gilded oasis]

Sorry work call
Because we don't go down at all we want lowest possible stacks for low raid damage right?

So first black hole I cloak and the target gets sac/GS.
2nd black hole we all soak together then each black hole after that should either be baited on immune class since they are running bombs or we sacrifice

Instead of raid soaking first 2 and getting 2 stacks plus duress dispell stacks etc. Would put us at more over all damage by the time most guilds go down and clear

I guess. Idk I'm not raid leading I just show up half awake and mess up my rotation on kills

[keen spruce]

oh i see

I thought u were using like a spell warding or immunity

then you were just goin over there and soakin it for no reason

but if it's just sac then yeah that makes sense

[storm forum]

wait does sac/GS work with 1 immune soaker?

[gilded oasis]

Yeah

If we don't have GS then the other rogue also cloak soaks or the off tank gets in

We always have sac up there

Need both

[keen spruce]

imma yoink that for reclears

fk goin downstairs

[gilded oasis]

Yeah it would be ideal if we kill before the double duress but we don't... so we just let those go off naturally and almost everyone is dead then 2-3 people finish the fight

Better people have it dead by then

We have 2 immune classes do first bomb then they don't soak 2nd hole (or 1 doesnt) so they guarantee get 3rd black hole (unless we rez someone or they go down etc - in which case we sacrifice them to the dps gods) then every black hole after gets sacrificed unless it ends up on someone with immunity

[blazing jewel]

shmeeps are you going down the same time as a ret

or are you different sets

[gilded oasis]

He's actually dual boxing the ret

[keen spruce]

same time

me and ret are set 2

[blazing jewel]

you should swap that up

you only need 1 immune per set

[keen spruce]

so whoever it picks we have immunity coverage

[blazing jewel]

the non immunity person just stands in bad for 1 stack and does the first bomb

[keen spruce]

oh true

I was taking a swirly early to make sure he got the black hole

cuz i was lazy and didn't wanna do it

but sometimes it didn't work out that way

[gilded oasis]

Lol

[blazing jewel]

[keen spruce]

i mean we had a few suboptimal choices for p3

but at that point we were so close to a kill we didn't wanna change anything

we're gonna fix some stuff up on reclears

and yknow

trial like 4 new people

and gear alts

and reprog the whole fight

[gilded oasis]

Yuck

It's ok we're reprogging but with the same 20 we killed it with twice

So uh

[keen spruce]

I'm just excited to go back and kill mid raid bosses

we only killed rashok once then locked out until now

[blazing jewel]

holy

[gilded oasis]

Yeah that's what we had done also

[keen spruce]

I'd have more kills

if scana brought me to his reclear this week

they just out here throwin sark daggers to the transmog bin

[blazing jewel]

bro I wasnt even in for sark this week on my feral

im the alt raid carry

[keen spruce]

just tell them you're levelling a backup rogue on a new account

and send my info

[blazing jewel]

but I already have scanatwo and scanathree

[keen spruce]

yeah but what if something happened to them

and you need a scanafour

aka shmeepy

[blazing jewel]

shmeepytwo

when

[keen spruce]

i left my harem of rogues in BFA

[light warren]

is that normal?

[keen spruce]

no

I was just a degenrate

we didn't even do split raids

[gilded oasis]

I've mained a rogue for always. I have more druid and shaman alts than I do rogues (I have exactly 1 rogue)

[light warren]

mythic? im confused

[keen spruce]

that was specifically to be covenant proof at the launch of SL

[gilded oasis]

Can't catch me ever leveling another rogue

[keen spruce]

but then i realized the time commitment and gave up

[light warren]

how do u have orange parse when i have higher but not orange?

[keen spruce]

cuz i got them many weeks/months ago

it snapshots your parse at the time you got it

[light warren]

oh its old?

[keen spruce]

on that page

[blazing jewel]

it keeps the parse at time of lock in

[gilded oasis]

It's like overall highest. If you click the actual one it shows all the parses for that boss and you can see the changes or progression

[keen spruce]

yeah on your main wcl page it just shows the parse/rank you got at the time you got it

[blazing jewel]

how do I parse on amalg

I need to beat stealthis r1

[lament aurora]

someone took it from stealthi

[blazing jewel]

[lament aurora]

but here is how

[blazing jewel]

never r1

[lament aurora]

all the parses are about to be destroyed by the dreamsurge bug anyway

[blazing jewel]

the what

[lament aurora]

so u can get this buff from the dreamsurge event https://www.wowhead.com/spell=418813/self-sufficient

if you get summoned into the raid

you keep it

[balmy condor]

the world content stuff buff gets dragged into the raid presumably

[lament aurora]

I just lost my r1 magmorax to it

[blazing jewel]

that is so cringe

[balmy condor]

the logs will get invalidated in like a day

[lament aurora]

its funny that the event has been live for weeks now but nobody actually did it so they never thought until now

has anyone here even done a dreamsurge

[balmy condor]

I just like flying through the funny green orbs

[flint tusk]

I honestly still don't have a clue how people do so much damage anyway xD

[gilded oasis]

Luck

[runic hinge]

Press their buttons real hard

[keen spruce]

like dis

[gilded oasis]

Sheeesh

I bet it's that ret. aura

[gilded oasis]

I've done a lot of them. I complete the weekly quest on like 9 alts a week

Then farm on my rogue for a few hours a week

[spice spire]

Seek help

[gilded oasis]

Plz help

[spice spire]

[gilded oasis]

I need an adult

[spice spire]

Homie ur an adult. Ur ancient even

[gilded oasis]

I need an adultier adult

Just wait till I tell you how I'm gonna do TW quest on 9 alts and then keep leveling my warrior when done

[spice spire]

Does it bring you happiness?

[gilded oasis]

No

People don't know how to do cata dungeons

[spice spire]

Then why are you doing it

[gilded oasis]

Because I hate myself

[spice spire]

Don’t do that, ur great

[gilded oasis]

Nah it's ok. I just throw on TV and chill

But I do hate when tanks don't know what they're doing

[spice spire]

Quakethree is him

[grand quarry]

I went into cata dungeons completely blind as a tank but you can just faceroll most things lol

[gaunt moat]

I need some mental support.
Clearing raid up to including magmarox today, and every log I had was shit or i died
I didn't have windfury but i dunno, Not even coming close to some of the higher logs

[keen spruce]

sometimes you're the windshield

sometimes you're the bug

[gaunt moat]

That's deep.

[gaunt moat]

wanna trade?

[blazing jewel]

[keen spruce]

I'm scared to reclear

cuz everyone's got these juiced

ass

speed kill parses

and all of my good parses were relatively early in prog when my gear could carry a bit

[blazing jewel]

you can still get 95+ in bad kill times

[earnest remnant]

[gaunt moat]

After Rashok it all went downhill

[gaunt moat]

I honestly don't know what i'm doing wrong.
i'm looking at CDs usages, i'm doing what other are doing (which is honestly almost always just use on CD)

[keen spruce]

what happened on magmo

actually magmo is really just prayge for procs and no mechanics

not much you can do there

[gaunt moat]

Technically i could have delayed vanish/DM for pot.
but I thought boss would die a bit quicker. or that i would die.

[lament aurora]

you can "forget" to soak when you're supposed to if you are getting no procs and want a redo

[gaunt moat]

boss still lived 20s after pot used.

But i'm looking at better logs, they literally used it the same way. fuck. I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT

[earnest remnant]

its cuz you arent a raccoon

facts

[gaunt moat]

oh wait i compared it to myself lol

[spice spire]

That’s true

[gaunt moat]

i dunno man, comparing to Endwyr's log, we almost did everything the same. she delayed DM a bit to use with Sepsis and vanished later
i used DM with vanish earlier.
i don't think it mattered cause we were both without pot. and I actually had slightly higher garrote damage even.

and yet he has like 11k more dps than me.
her DM dealt 400k more.
her bomb dispenser was 400k more.
she has nick of time, which did 500k more.
And most confusing for me - her amp poison dealt 400k more. with 77 more hits.

Ah ofcourse, he had winfury, that's why he had more melee hits so more poison.

[spice spire]

Also like we’re going into weird gear things at this point

[gaunt moat]

thanks, corrected

[keen spruce]

isn't endwyr a girl?

oh u switched it up halfway through

nvm

yeah no WF is a pretty big hit off the top

did you compare sophic and trinkets?

[gaunt moat]

i'll look at it now.

In terms of gear, she does have an advantage

and 6% more sophic uptime for her

[limber lion]

It all stacks up

WFT alone is over 5k dps

[gaunt moat]

let's see what the sim says if i had that gear

So with all that gear, I get +2800dps
(tested with windfury)

if we give it another 5k for WF, that's around 9k difference.
than 6% sophic gets it to 11k?

[lament aurora]

[hollow pewter]

Is the dps difference between slime boots and toxic boots in the faq?

[blazing jewel]

You can just sim the difference on your character

[glacial shuttle]

Just need to double check something: does indiscriminate carnage spread improved garrotes or normal garrotes?

[slate crown]

Both, you spread all garrotes cast in the duration, both improved and normal

[balmy condor]

Yeh

Carnage doesn’t care what garrote it is

If it’s the 3 seconds after breaking stealth, they’re improved

If they’re not, then they’re not

[glacial shuttle]

Okay. Idk if it's just a visual bug with luxthos' pack then. Cause the thing that tells me if a target has improved garrote on it doesn't show up for most targets unless I've specifically tab targeted to it. I should probably check the damage per tick manually but

[slate crown]

Oh when I said "in the duration" I meant with the 10.2 changes. If you're talking about live servers, answer is the same just only one garrote, whether it's normal or not

Does Luxthos' pack show auras for all mobs like on nameplates?

[glacial shuttle]

ah nah it's a little green dot on the garrote spell itself haha

indicating improved or not

[slate crown]

I mean if it shows up when you are targetting a mob, then I think that's what it intends to do

[glacial shuttle]

yeah it is

The issue I was having was that if I used indiscriminate carnage and then garroted from stealth, only the mobs I specifically garroted on would have the green dot, and the others wouldn't. Hence the question I asked omw to the target dummies.

But turns out all of them got the improved garrote when testing it on the dummies regardless

so it looks to be a coding issue

[slate crown]

Can test the same thing with my version instead https://wago.io/zxhRObQLf. I tested with IC on PTR and it remembered everyone who was cleaved to and correctly showed

If I recall correctly, though I haven't looked in awhile, Luxtho's pack should also remember, it is recording units that you apply Garrote to when you have the buffs up (as does mine)

[glacial shuttle]

the fucking dreamsurge is messing up dummy testing x.x

[gilded oasis]

Yeah Luxthos was tracking IC improved on off targets but it broke some time ago, not sure what changed (I never updated mine it just stopped working)

[violet karma]

Does sin care about the nick of time like sub does?

[gilded oasis]

yes

[glacial shuttle]

what does Timestrike even do?

[balmy condor]

Small damage proc

[glacial shuttle]

What ilvl weapon would we need to have to not want it atm?

[balmy condor]

Like 465 or something

[glacial shuttle]

christ

okay

so definitely BIS for next season lmao

[balmy condor]

Yeh

Only offhand though

It loses to ilvl in mainhand pretty fast

[glacial shuttle]

how come?

[balmy condor]

Mainhand damage is what’s used for ability damage calculations

[glacial shuttle]

but it doesn't have a lower coefficient than other weapons right?

than equal* ilvl weapons

[balmy condor]

Yeah

At equal ilvl it would win

That’s not possible right now, dagger only goes to 441

So 450 dagger crushes it in mainhand

But since offhand damage isn’t used in my calculations, you can drop the 450 in your offhand for the 441 timestrike dagger

[drifting cloud]

im guessing the -3 nerf on vault isnt enough for next tier for mh

atleast for prog highroll? probably a mh dagger on some late bosses ig

[balmy condor]

Ye

Next tier timestrike stay winning

[vivid kiln]

How is stealth used in assassination? since there is no stealth abilites

atleast in my build

Just use the non-stealth abilites in stealth for dmg buff?

[vivid kiln]

Only?

Also which abilites should be my combo spenders

using envenom and crimson tempest atm

And ofc keeping up rupture

[light warren]

yo wtf do i do on NL dungeon. i cant get above like 100k overall.

[balmy condor]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[balmy condor]

Any of these

Would help a lot

[light warren]

no i mean way more specific for the dungeon

23/24 +

[spice spire]

He wasn’t responding to you

[light warren]

o

[spice spire]

There’s really nothing different you do

In lair

You just do dam

Okay aggressively on boss enjoy the 120 burger you drop while ur mage drops 160

[light warren]

yea mage was 180k and i was like 120 until energy issues and would drop to like 90k

[spice spire]

Shouldn’t have energy issues. Maintain ur bleeds and ur chuckling

[light warren]

st?

[spice spire]

Well until boss ofc

[light warren]

yea i mean on boss

[spice spire]

I’ve been known to throw an ic on second boss’s down phase. I love a good int

[light warren]

what about first boss? any trick for uptime? i get like 70k

mage was 140. i felt like i was being carried

[vivid kiln]

Assassination feels soooo good the only problem i have is the indiscriminate carnage being on cd when rupture and garrote is off

Isnt that being changed .2

?

[light warren]

#tww-assassination

[spice spire]

Bit harder for me because I’m bad. My positioning is pretty shit but iirc you can step safely on that boss during the crystal phase

Maintain uptime is all I got. I know, Sage words

[vivid kiln]

?

[light warren]

to ask about changes

[spice spire]

It is changing

And there’s a lot changing in like

6 weeks

[vivid kiln]

i just asked if its being changed not really anything i wanted to discuss

[gilded oasis]

@spice spire good news, 1 TW is counting as 2 its like a DREAM IM ZOOMIN

[spice spire]

I worry for you, Zar

[gilded oasis]

Look at me go

[spice spire]

You have a spreadsheet

[gusty mirage]

Yes, indiscriminate carnage is becoming a passive which will cleave garrotes and ruptures to 2 additional targets when you're stealthed and for 10s after

vs the 8 targets w/ a CD one we use now

[spice spire]

[gilded oasis]

gotta stay organized

[spice spire]

This is some level of commital to a psych ward

It had to be

[gilded oasis]

mayhaps

[brazen zodiac]

ooo this gives me a good idea thanks zar!

[idle inlet]

how much of a dps gain is it to plan your shivs out so you have high resources and dont need to re up your bleeds?

[balmy condor]

As long as you have your shiv for Deathmark and sepsis the test doesn’t matter hardly at all

[arctic tusk]

what is the core gameplay of sin rogue (ive only played sub ever) and im newish

[balmy condor]

lots of debuff/buff maintainence, cooldowns every 1-2min

[serene basin]

Boy, I've slept too much, and missed when this spec changed the main stats to crit mast

And I'm coming back

[balmy condor]

aight 3am bedtime

I can't wait to wake up to 75 pings about how they still don't believe me

and then the video is too long

xdkekwlmao

also wrong channel whispyr

thanks whispyr

[balmy condor]

yeah crit good for seal fate and a ton of our damage is just bleed/poison

[latent copper]

is it a big DPS-Waste if i use Rupture with anima? Should i use it only with Evenom?

[thorn fjord]

Not a waste

i prefer the ER -> Rupture opener also

[gilded oasis]

@balmy condor I don't believe you and the video isn't long enough

[spice spire]

Mfs have 50 hours a week to grind Alts ofc 33 minutes ain’t enough

[gilded oasis]

Not even that long and I only do it when I have nothing better to do in game

Also I don't even know what video he's talking about so there

[thorn fjord]

🤣

[spice spire]

Was I just played?

[gilded oasis]

Yesh

[spice spire]

Punching the air rn

[gilded oasis]

[spice spire]

He’s right

[gilded oasis]

I can still be grumpy about it

[spice spire]

Stealth mfs when you remind them they have vanish

[gilded oasis]

I need that for other things

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

[gilded oasis]

I just woke up you have to be nice to me

[spice spire]

You know what

I hope you have a wonderful day and I hope you get blessed with many cute animal pictures

[gilded oasis]

you too

[spice spire]

Don’t tell me what to do

[gilded oasis]

[shy pecan]

[thorn fjord]

Bless us with some George pics

[woeful cipher]

Read FAQ to try to catch up on sin, sepsis looks complicated.. YouTube too see if anybody has videos.. there's the legend whispyr.. love it

[blazing jacinth]

I really only play sub rogue but looking to delve into Sin a bit for raid. Right now I have 0 haste. From what I learned crit and mastery are better for sin in general but what about haste for ST fights.

[gilded oasis]

Sim it.. Some people here play haste ST some still stack crit/mast with little haste.

[earnest remnant]

@blazing jewel lmfao

[blazing jewel]

you beat a PI abuser too

[violet jackal]

show ebon might uptime

[spice surge]

Why would it matter

Afaik assa has nothing that benefits from ebon on logs

[void mesa]

Wait, does this guy not run RC? where did he put that point o.o

He's playing Nightstalker????? woah

[gilded oasis]

he also kills the boss ver quickly so he does what he wants

[lament aurora]

32% nelth trinket 25% sophic sheeeesh

my man won big

[spice surge]

Fwiw nightstalker and the extra point in lethality can sim higher (as seen in fuus spreadsheet)

[earnest remnant]

About to crank zskarn and my net goes out

Im upside down

[spice spire]

I’ll crank ur zskarn if you sass me again

[lament aurora]

ion ddosing you rn

he don't want to see u win

[spice spire]

Idk what I’m saying anymore man I’m gonna be real

[lament aurora]

quake is down bad for some love

[spice spire]

Nah I got @ebon notch mom

[earnest remnant]

okay its back on

saved

[lament aurora]

did they wait for u tho

[earnest remnant]

no they are on magmorax now

[lament aurora]

the real question is what boss did u vantus rune this week

[earnest remnant]

not used one yet

so probs Sark

[ebon notch]

she doesnt have much to give

[spice spire]

Nah she has plenty trust

[ebon notch]

cope

[spice spire]

Call me your step father first

[median flicker]

General logs question, is there a way to see how many WF procs u get per fight?

[spice spire]

You can check for windfury uptime in buffs

That’s about the extent

[median flicker]

Gotcha so just the uptime not the individual procs.

[gaunt moat]

When boss parries garrote at the last second of sepsis
HECCIN' LOVE PARRY

[obsidian cedar]

Im pretty used to assassin now getting back into rogue i see that sub is best in M+ is it much of a difference between them to learn the sub spec or is assasin Mythic build ok?

[keen spruce]

in raid all 3 specs are pretty competitive

rn at least

in m+ sub is quite a bit ahead of assas for most people

[limber lion]

All are seeing pretty major reworks in a month or so, don't worry about it. Try all specs out and see what you like the best. They will all change quite a bit with 10.2 anyways, but should give you a solid idea what to look for

[glacial shuttle]

[You disliked this]

[strange trail]

can I macro the bomb trinket to rupture or something?

[gilded oasis]

can? yeah
Should? probably not

if you have 2 on use and you have one bound to abilities, you can and will screw your timings sometimes. if you dont then its ok but sorta bad habbit to start. Its better to have a keybind (or two) for trinkets and get used to them cause you never know when you might have 2 on use or what if you want to hold trinket for something coming up but you rupture and there goes your trinket

[thorn fjord]

I macro mine cause I’m lazy as fuck and also dumb af and it’s just 1 less thing to keep track of lol

Macro to mutilate

[lament aurora]

ye i macro mine too yolo

[spice spire]

Same

She’s right

But I’m a bastard

[gilded oasis]

I thought about macroing it but Ive had 2 on use pretty much most the tier so idk might as well keep my muscle memory

you do you tho. Macro that shit to mutilate

throw dem bombs

[spice spire]

I’m an envenom enjoyer

You’re right tho. At some point it’s going to be a massive loss to have a passive trinket. At that point sucks to suck (people who macro to abilities) (me)

[gilded oasis]

yeah env prob better

ive always had 2 trinket keybinds from my old pvp days so it works out

[spice spire]

When I played pvp let’s just say

I’d cause a riot on my setup

[gilded oasis]

oh I wasnt good but I used trink at least

[spice spire]

I used a trackpad

I had some wizardry, no mouse wow heroic raiding in cata/mop era

[gilded oasis]

hahaha nice

[shy pecan]

Hey, nothing wrong with trackpad gaming

I use to do that on my MBP back in the day

[spice spire]

Yeah school Toshiba laptop. Raided at 25 fps, no mouse, no bitches

As god intended

[shy pecan]

[thorn fjord]

I can’t even imagine track pad gaming

[thorn fjord]

25 is tough but not impossible… it’s when you get in to the 10 territory that it gets sketchy

[frozen iris]

Has whispyr put out his new article yet?

Or am I blind

[gilded oasis]

its supposed to be out soon ™️

[gaunt moat]

Doesn't mention removing SnD, useless article

[gusty mirage]

crying about snd, useless comment

see how that works

[gaunt moat]

well i wrote it as a joke
so that means you did too

[gusty mirage]

I hope they turn every button into snd

so I can laugh like a crazy person

[gaunt moat]

you see what SnD does to people?

no end to its evils

[gusty mirage]

I sure don't

[gaunt moat]

what channel do you not have on mute

[gilded oasis]

all mine are on mute

ez

[frozen iris]

Damn I only have outlaw muted

Never going in that cesspool

[gilded oasis]

I lied, the cat and dog thread is not muted

[gusty mirage]

none of the spec channels

made the cut

the only thing in this god forsaken channel that is unmuted

is the only important thing

@ember mural stop prayging my screenshots and go prayge for your dogshit team

getting stomped by the LIONS

[ember mural]

BRO

UNCALLED FOR

[gusty mirage]

27-3 AT HALFTIME

[ember mural]

[slate crown]

Notter we are allies in our efforts to make intensive and questionably useful auras. But on this road, we depart.

Hey can I have an SnD icon to react to to add it to my discord name?

[gusty mirage]

say less

[gaunt moat]

This is betrayel on levels yet unheard of

[gusty mirage]

@slate crown hold this real quick

[gilded oasis]

[gaunt moat]

[slate crown]

Holding

[gusty mirage]