assassination

[balmy condor]

is like

50dps

[clever perch]

wasnt like 700-800 dps?

[keen spruce]

unless the trinket gets directly buffed. the question about simming is kind of silly cuz we know it's not good. so if the sims were fixed it would just show that it's as not good as we already know it is

[clever perch]

btw guys, how do you check the "stats" of a sim?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3CY3NLZK8dnxUQi95cUspo for example

any way to check how much %haste that sim has?

[keen spruce]

scroll to the bottom

[runic hinge]

@keen spruce you’re so wise

[clever perch]

ty my friend ❤️

[balmy condor]

its within margin of error for my character

[tired night]

Essence and nelth trinket are like the same DPS but nelth has the potential to highroll right? It always sims a couple hundred lower for me but every top log is using it so I'm guessing thats why

[blazing jewel]

yea nelth trinket is rng

[tired night]

So we lust on nelth at start of P2 and I still have like 30-40s left on pot. Better to stack deathmark with pot or with lust?

Our timing is lining up where I cant have both

[keen spruce]

lusting p2

you mean p3 surely

[spice spire]

Surely

[tired night]

Yeah P3 my bad. Like right when it starts

[gaunt moat]

I love this new set you get from time rifts

That's like how i imagine a warcraft rogue

[runic hinge]

Which one is this exactly?

[gaunt moat]

Warmonger's Battlegear. horde only.

[runic hinge]

Oh rip

[gaunt moat]

but i think it was also a BfA set from what i hear? not sure

There's a similar set in red called "Honorbound" something.
I guess it was a pvp set in the past

[runic hinge]

Been alli since BFA I think so I won't see it

[rotund oak]

not bad actually 5 for being a male blood elf

[static glacier]

we've hit rock bottom

im trying to negotiate some cooked boost run in dawn to maximise my chances of nick of time

[light warren]

yo is night elf shadow meld good for garrote resets? or should i play Blood elf for energy

i know racials arent super important. it just seems rogue has some extra stuff with racials then others

[static glacier]

it doesn't work in raid afaik

[storm forum]

NElf shadow meld restealth doesn't work in boss combat, and is inconsistent in dungeons

But when it does work in dungeons, oh man is it juicy

[balmy condor]

Nelf meld just requires that you afk for 3ish seconds

So you can go into true stealth

[gaunt moat]

good synergy with exsang

[frozen iris]

Trying to decide if I want to go human/night elf or stay Tauren

[solemn oracle]

How much better is 447 Chromatic essence compared to 450 beacon? I can't seem so sim chromatic essence correctly (Unless I'm doing something wrong)

[light warren]

ok so also with with ehcoing repremiand changing to 3/4 will having the 1 extra combo point from belf be good

[keen spruce]

actual rogue mog

[frozen iris]

Human female hairstyles leave a lot to be desired.

[storm forum]

I'm a NElf simp

So I vote for that

[gaunt moat]

too bad you can never have it

[storm forum]

Wait does belf racial give combo points?

[keen spruce]

why

[light warren]

i was told that idk for sure

[gaunt moat]

cause you're alliance

[keen spruce]

oh yeah

the ally one has a weird pp

[light warren]

i know it gives monk a combo point

[frozen iris]

Same. Nelf female best looking race as far as I’m concerned

[storm forum]

Hold up now I'm interested

[storm forum]

That's just a normal belt buckle

[keen spruce]

bird beak pp

[gaunt moat]

Alliance are peggers confirmed

[storm forum]

I should use the pirate regalia tmog again

[storm forum]

My fav part of being alliance

[light warren]

idk i kinda like the set

[frozen iris]

Give me nelf female with meld/diplomacy and war stomp

[gaunt moat]

doesn't look anything like a rogue imo

[keen spruce]

yeah looks like a SW guard

[light warren]

its a good guy rogue

[keen spruce]

in a gimp mask

[storm forum]

I like the mogs that don't look rogue-ish. Cause it feels like a disguise or something. I'm a big fan of wearing druid-looking robe mogs because of that.

This one feels too mixed though

[keen spruce]

i have a couple of skirt mogs

[storm forum]

Like it's not quite a rogue, not quite a guard

[keen spruce]

i just want rogue sets

to look like they're made of leather

i don't feel like this is an unreasonable request

[storm forum]

There are some good old pvp sets for that

[keen spruce]

old is the operant word here

[storm forum]

If you wanna farm the currency for them

[keen spruce]

i have all of them

[storm forum]

Pog

[keen spruce]

i'm just griping about the new sets

[storm forum]

That's fair

Do any of the sets have like a utility belt? That's something I feel is often overlooked. I wanna see where the rogue is keeping the lock picks, even if its completely impractical and shouts "hey, I'm here to steal your shit"

[keen spruce]

this is the most leather set we've gotten since the season 2 darkshore warfronts

uhm nathria set

has kind of a utility belt

some pouches at least

[runic hinge]

Definitely the antorus set

[keen spruce]

ye antrous does

[storm forum]

Pog

[keen spruce]

also mostly puches tho

[runic hinge]

Fancy hat too

[keen spruce]

and some throwing knives

[runic hinge]

Gotta win trial of style for boots tho

[storm forum]

Wait was antorous dashing scoundrel set?

[keen spruce]

ye

[runic hinge]

Yes

[storm forum]

Ok, yeah I've used that one

[runic hinge]

One of the Wod sets is decent too

[storm forum]

Maybe I'll go back and try to farm the mythic color

[frozen iris]

Ewww

[runic hinge]

I just meant it has pouches

[light warren]

anyone in here leather worker for toxic thorn footwraps

[storm forum]

Sorry, we're all herb/alc roleplayers who craft our own poisons here

[keen spruce]

facts

[storm forum]

You're going to wanna ask in the hunter discord

They're all skn/lw roleplayers who don't let a single hair from their hunt go to waste

[slow needle]

!oce

Does anyone have the simc input for each of the OCE stats?

[balmy condor]

pinned in research

[earnest remnant]

#tc-research message

think the ilvl i set to 441 tho

[slow needle]

Thank you folks.

I can change that easily enough.

[halcyon arch]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[lament aurora]

meanwhile my magmorax last night

https://tenor.com/view/punch-punching-laptop-rage-smashing-screen-gif-17930159

[grim tangle]

skill issue

[blazing jewel]

Have to swap it to the lucky slot

[true flume]

Do our bleed snap shot ?

[spice surge]

No

[true flume]

for example from the master assasin talent.

[true flume]

ty

[gusty mirage]

[past bobcat]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kGFLTExh29TZSS9yZnGk8T almost bis?

[quiet oar]

I wish i had Trinkets

[gusty mirage]

tier helm sims higher than crafted for assa for whatever reason, but besides that ye you're chilling

no 450 belt or gloves

smh my head

or shoulders

[quiet oar]

Trinkets boosting dps

wtf

and Nick of time

[quiet oar]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/m9JxcZ3uHRfksocpto2YxD Im like this

and you are 1800 ahead

[gusty mirage]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uMp3E2tAe48YQxjzETev92

teehee

[quiet oar]

oh wait tanner is dwarf

Its so weird to socket crit vers

[blazing jewel]

And simming with 90% rage

Illegal activity

[past bobcat]

Yeah I got all my trinkets and offhand hehehe

[peak bobcat]

No oce?

Are you even trying?

[true flume]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sTcD13WAjLj3VVJEFJsvR9

hold me back

im coming for that rank 1

[gusty mirage]

doesn't sim higher

so

[peak bobcat]

[blazing jewel]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/srWinqGqD9QDH2WSrmLxnx

We’re crying

We need the nick of time

Almost 800 dps without fixing stats for it

[past bobcat]

Thank god I got that shit the 2nd week of the dungeon

[quiet oar]

Flexana

[blazing jewel]

Those daggers

Are going to be the biggest pain to farm out early

[quiet oar]

I mean you only need one

[fallen forge]

Hide yo kids, hide yo wife
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xm7ypHpyQcB83UQVSC2CM6

[quiet oar]

Because Raid one is probably good enough

[quiet oar]

Oh shit

[grim tangle]

I'm going to have bis gear once I kill sark tonight and get the cloak :)

[past bobcat]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1cqk5GY37oSCtRpSbJUjdR redid

[gusty mirage]

how do you sim for 142

wtf

[blazing jewel]

That was droptomizer with the timestrike dagger

Have you played ptr yet Oxi

[gusty mirage]

first day I did

[blazing jewel]

Thoughts

[gusty mirage]

I'm going to let the PTR shit settle down

sub tier set really cool

love the sub tree

assassination tier set absolute dogshit

new changes can be interesting, need to see how things settle

[blazing jewel]

Sin tier set feels like hidden value imo

[gusty mirage]

outlaw decided to come straight outta compton with their new capstone + dance

the sin tier is trash

[blazing jewel]

Doubt the 4p will be worth playing around

[gusty mirage]

garbanzo

doo doo kaka

poo poo

[blazing jewel]

Just a play the same exact way with a bit more dam

[solar tangle]

small question reagarding vanish garrot .. i created a macro for qol but it does somehow not work often. i have the feeling it applies the weak garrot 😄 do you have any experience for this? or its fail to macro this?

[blazing jewel]

Outlaw feels kinda fun to play

[blazing jewel]

Does your garrote have a cd after you press the macro

Can also paste the macro here and we can check

[solar tangle]

#showtooltip Vanish
/cast Vanish
/stopattack
/cast Garrote

[blazing jewel]

Don’t really need the stop attack in there tbh

[solar tangle]

i mean i can press the two buttons seperatly, but i always wanted a QOL for this xD

[blazing jewel]

So out of stealth your garrote has a cd

[solar tangle]

do you expert assa rogues use a macro for this?

[blazing jewel]

And in stealth it doesn’t

Should be a pretty easy way to check if your ui doesn’t track the different garrotes

[gusty mirage]

no, because if you're mid GCD you're not applying the garrote because of the GCD

you're better off just pushing them separately

[solar tangle]

ya thought so, ty

[deft patio]

So how is Assassin looking after todays PTR nerfs? Is sub alot better?

[solar tangle]

there is no number tuning on ptr yet

its just gameplay and look & feel

[deft patio]

But There was

[sly wren]

The numbers you saw being tuned is fake tuning

No actual content it's being tested against

[deft patio]

Okei, but what you guys think? What spec looks best atm? Sub or sin?

[sly wren]

Far too early to tell

We're not even a week into PTR

And we have m+ testing this weekend on ptr

Dungeon tuning can also affect a lot of things

Routing as well

[solar tangle]

another season without rogue

[deft patio]

Yeah true, we will just have to wait and see then ^^

[solar tangle]

😄

[deft patio]

Well sub has been dominating in dragonflight

[gusty mirage]

sectech losing the double dips is actually bigger than people think it is

as of right now though, numbers don't mean anything on PTR because there will be additional tuning up and down for pretty much all 3 specs

[deft patio]

Yeah the burst is going down abit i assume

[gusty mirage]

but the changes so far are great

all 3 specs have a much improved class tree

the spec trees are looking good

the new stuff is cool, and brings variety into the mix

first time in rogue history all 3 specs are happy, and now we're back to complaining about slice and dice

if snd is the biggest concern, rogue's in a good spot

[solar tangle]

no oxi, im not happy

biggest concern is Acro Placement for Outlaw xD

[gusty mirage]

I mean

it's a choice you have to make

that's what these trees are about

everyone was super excited for the return of talent trees

well, that's the consequence you don't get all the fun utility and all the damage

[past bobcat]

Sub looking kinda lack lustre for me. Spec slowed down considerably with all the energy changes

[gusty mirage]

unfortunate

[earnest remnant]

thats good lol

[gusty mirage]

because the sub changes are amazing

the new tree is great

dance windows matter

double dance back on the table

essentially 2 steps baseline

which is insanely good

you get 1 min sprint back

[sly wren]

I'm personally down for slightly slower specs

But I'm a boomer

[gusty mirage]

nah you're not a boomer

you're a rogue

🙂

[past bobcat]

Kinda liked how sub felt like just press everything when it’s up idk

[gusty mirage]

sub used to be about building and maximizing a dance window

rather than the 60+ apm mess it became

[blazing jewel]

The super sprint talent is so fun

[past bobcat]

Been really enjoying sin rogue this reclear though

[gusty mirage]

sometimes more apm doesn't not equal good/fun

[blazing jewel]

^ fury warrior

Dog spec

[gusty mirage]

assassination and sub slowing down

and outlaw remaining high apm is healthy for the class

you get 3 distinct flavors of rogue

[solar tangle]

im exited to try assa out, currently its just my single target hobby (farm gear for it, rekill log progress etc..)

[gusty mirage]

vs all of us swimming in energy and being 239847298349238492 apm

[past bobcat]

I personally like the apm. I don’t even find sub rn in its current state to be that high of apm

Sin feels giga slow in comparison

[earnest remnant]

Sub is like 60-64 apm on live

[gusty mirage]

sooo

[earnest remnant]

It cant be much faster man

[gusty mirage]

granted that also includes bomb dispenser

which is off of GCD

and CB

[vestal wren]

i think sub apm is fairly high

[earnest remnant]

And if you play dust on the ptr it pretty much still is that High apm

[vestal wren]

dust has 72 apm

not significantly faster

[earnest remnant]

im talking ptr dust

think the difference between non dust ptr vs dust

is okayish high

[main vessel]

👀

[fallen forge]

is there a weakaura that shows empowered garrote different from regular garrote?

im using afenar rn but i cant tell sometimes if im using it correctly during sepsis

[tired night]

Hey random curiosity question but how does haste effect dots? I thought it isn't like old days where a certain amount gives another tick

[spice spire]

Luxthos does

A lot of rogues either use it or rip that module

[fallen forge]

ahh gotcha ty!

[spice spire]

It still is

But it also has added benefit due to VW.

[light warren]

how much haste should i have

[void mesa]

As much as the robot wants you to have

[spice spire]

More than 0

[blazing jewel]

But not more than 9000

[gusty mirage]

whatcha lookin at bud

[earnest remnant]

if i were him

id be you

[gusty mirage]

:3

[rotund oak]

tis something like 70-72,pretty standar for a couple off gcd abilities

[main vessel]

I saw Vengeance

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/the-batman-gif-18213363

[gusty mirage]

I'd like to see you

[light warren]

how do i know what gear i need to replace?

yes raidbots i know for simming

but i dont know what items i need

[void mesa]

Im always shocked as to how topple pops up every single time Vengeance is mentionned in RH

[spice spire]

It has a droptomizer

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/droptimizer

Good indication

[light warren]

yea i dont have pro so i cant do all of them and then the ones i did were all like 0.6% so then how do i know which is the best 0.6% lol

[main vessel]

[main vessel]

[main vessel]

I’m everywhere

Also I like to pop in and say hi to Oxi and Quake :3

[void mesa]

...everywhere?

[main vessel]

[blazing jewel]

Dh smells

[void mesa]

did we get VDH news or not yet btw? Still unsure if im gearing BDK or VDH in 10.2 xd

[main vessel]

No news

[main vessel]

Very badly

[void mesa]

[blazing jewel]

Especially hawwk

[main vessel]

I have yet to smell Hawwk but based on the pfp

I’m inclined to agree

The big stoner penguin from Surf’s Up, I think

[rotund oak]

whats the deal with ominous chromatic essence

bloodmallet sims are pretty high

[void mesa]

I mean

Its pretty good

[rotund oak]

.. hello

nice to meet u

ofc it is

[void mesa]

But idk, dont think theres been changes? Its just a great stack stick when you have the bonuses from others

More reliable than proc-based nelth and crit-based beacon also 🙃

[rotund oak]

yeah

so in order to work all must use it

i mean to reach that high

hmm

maybe for raids

yeah

thx anyway

[void mesa]

Bloodmallet usually has the variants for less buffs

[rotund oak]

ye ik

trying to take everything into account 😛

[split veldt]

swapped over to Sin, are my stats looking decent?

sim says to use haste runes, so maybe i sim using haste gems/enchants too?

[void mesa]

Sims would know best, but huh,
At a glance it seems like high vers/low haste yeah

Robot knows best as they say 🙂

[spice spire]

Robot angle indeed

[split veldt]

is there a faster way to sim gems. ive been using gear compare and putting in each piece of gear

[spice spire]

Top gear

And you can select a “replace gems” option

[void mesa]

Top gear - replace all gems
Check everything that doesnt have vers cuz sin x d

[split veldt]

ah

ty

[void mesa]

can also check recrafts directly in Top Gear

[vestal wren]

think its high for rogue standards, the class is usually energy constrained

[thin gate]

has any1 tested the new t sets here?

envenom + poison bombs looks interesting on da paper

(aoe wise)

[eager sorrel]

https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/1014354006270808144

[split veldt]

the robot is indeed preferring haste/mastery gems instead of crit/mastery

[analog mica]

Whispyr posted a vid

[thin gate]

tyvm

[frozen iris]

207 dps isn’t really worth it to change all your gems imo

[split veldt]

eh, was only 2.5k

plus more energy feels better imo

im not sure how my vers went down to 9% from 13% after i switched my gems tho, i wasnt using any vers gems

what am i missing here lol

[rancid nimbus]

maybe you had flask expire?

[split veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-seriously-omg-really-embarrassed-embarrassing-gif-21528014

you right, i had one still on

[flint tusk]

Pog Bomb dispenser on first zskarn kill

[true flume]

you should pin this, fastest way to get everyone to hate you.

[flint tusk]

everyone hates me anyway

my guild actually passed on it for me which is very weird

[split veldt]

i lost mythic dispenser to a DH that got benched 2 weeks later

[past bobcat]

Does the sin channel do log review

[balmy condor]

nop

wowanalyzer

[true flume]

i feel bad now ... i asked like 2 times already 😛

[past bobcat]

Oh is it updated

[balmy condor]

yes

[past bobcat]

Should the sepsis buff be at 100%? What are we aiming for?

[balmy condor]

that looks fine

sepsis buff physically can't be 100%

that would mean you get a minute and a half of improved garrote from every sepsis

which.... obviously can't happen

[past bobcat]

Yeah poor choice of words. What should the sepsis empowered garrotte be at % wise?

[balmy condor]

30% is fine

[past bobcat]

Do we have a weak aura for tracking when sepsis is about to expire to refresh garrote

[balmy condor]

https://wago.io/Lgy47ma7G

people use this one a lot

[hushed fable]

Or you can be hipster like me, use TMW and do just plain icon or bar trackers with literally 2 clicks.

[void mesa]

Just be me and count in your head

and slip 1 buff out of 10

(would not recommend, dont do that)

[clever sapphire]

im not the only one with the cursed tech

[balmy condor]

why

[clever sapphire]

dunno, random assa rogue pulled this out for trash clearing in raid

[balmy condor]

[clever sapphire]

but it looks like the normal m+ build

but without iw

i love normal raids

[rotund oak]

outside outlaw which goes higher ye

[clever sapphire]

there is always a wipe on amalg chamber trash

[rotund oak]

❤️

[clever sapphire]

i just realised i need to get into a CE guild for next season

i want that owl

[grim tangle]

or just get like 10 million gold

[clever sapphire]

all i can offer is 50k

[rotund oak]

ye that owl gonna cost like 200mil

[void mesa]

use 50k gold to get into a CE guild

[clever sapphire]

im gonna sell my booty for that mount

[void mesa]

raid CE and get owl

[gusty mirage]

maybe, but I love you

so that supercedes everyone else hating you

because I'm special, my mom even says I am

[void mesa]

Oxi, is there anyone you dont love in this discord? You seem to be sending loving words to everyone around

[lucid birch]

@gusty mirage i need a mythic full clear hook me up homeboy

he has me on ignore these days its been real

[spice spire]

Damn

[gusty mirage]

lmao

yeah man for sure

[lucid birch]

sweet

cant wait

[gusty mirage]

there's people here that I hate

and that's why they're blocked 🙂

[void mesa]

If you answered me, that means im not blocked...
so im not on the hate list

[shy pecan]

You can still be blocked and still get responded to

But the true test of love… can you respond his stuff via emojis/reactions? 🙂

[gusty mirage]

of course you aren't

[void mesa]

[idle gorge]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[loud gull]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[pearl gorge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/LuxthosRogueDragonflight (Luxthos's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)

[merry raven]

Anyone know offhand how to differentiate between a base and an empowered garrote in weakauras? i know i could just download one but i prefer to make my own

[void mesa]

from what I remember, its script to know when you have the buff that will apply imp garrote and tracking that new garrote differently

cuz the garrote vs imp garrote debuff itself is the same outside dmg

[indigo epoch]

I'd assume they have separate spell ids.

[merry raven]

they do not. 703 for any garrote

[void mesa]

same spell id yeah, thats why its hard

[merry raven]

if its a script thing i guess i'll just grab someone else's though

im stubborn but also lazy so i guess i won't reinvent that wheel

[slate crown]

I literally spent all morning working on one

Almost done with it

But others have made them, there is no basic way to do it, you have to watch all of your buffs and use your buff status at cast time of garrote to say "Do the buffs that are active on me mean this garrote that was just cast is empowered?" and flag that cast (per target, if you hit multiple) as empowered

And it involves a non trivial amount of custom code

I just like making them myself as a coding / WA exercise, I enjoy it

[frigid pilot]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

@gusty mirage jelly?

[gusty mirage]

nah I'm bing chilling

[frigid pilot]

dont lie to me

[quiet oar]

Woah, may i get an Autograph?

[gusty mirage]

no

I only give kisses on the forehead

[quiet oar]

May i get one of These?

[frigid pilot]

some1 explain why timestrike is good for sin but not sub

[void mesa]

(idk, robot says it)

[frigid pilot]

i know it sims more, but the logic behind it

[void mesa]

I honestly dont fully understand the timestrike thing, like halfway memeing)

[spice surge]

What do you mean

The dagger is bis in offhand for both sub and assa?

[earnest remnant]

the effect roughly does the same dmg on both

one spec just likes the stats more

[quiet oar]

Especially the haste

[frigid pilot]

i guess the sims i saw didnt have it, i just checked fuu now ur right

[quiet oar]

Like sin can use it, sub its whatever

[frigid pilot]

ye cus sub loses alot from having haste right

[spice surge]

On aoe yes

Singletarget its fine

[earnest remnant]

was like 480 dps or smth like that for me as sub

on st

last i checked

[quiet oar]

Yeah for sin its like 700?

[frigid pilot]

from my 441 offhand its 1200

for sin

[quiet oar]

Huge

[bold temple]

got my nick of time

🥺

[frigid pilot]

same ❤️

[bold temple]

❤️ 😄

didnt get to run last week cause on vacation too 😮

[slate crown]

https://wago.io/zxhRObQLf

If you want to see how I did it feel free to look, I'm not good at media manipulation so I'm still working on getting a gif for it >.< but if you look feel free to let me know if there are any issues you run into, I've only tested on dummies

(By let me know I mean post a comment on the site, not here)

[indigo epoch]

did you fine folks say Irideus Fragment is oversimming? Dunno which M+ trinks i should be using

[void mesa]

Irideus bad yeah

Dice is good, 2nd from M+...... huhhh, Mark of Dargrul? Spear Fragment?

[indigo epoch]

Got dice, raid horn, Mark of Dargrul and Signoll flare.

dice and dargrul it is.

thanks

[void mesa]

Mark better on AoE yeah

For raid, huh, Signoll is better (raid horn is technically more dmg but has drawback)

[indigo epoch]

yeah, sorry I should preface I only do M+, appreciate the info

[void mesa]

All good 🙂

omg, bloodmallet still puts Boon at like Top 4 AoE trinket

Delete it from the game already

[balmy condor]

all the aoe trinkets were shit this patch

just how it goes

[void mesa]

Yeah, its all stats trinkets and last season stuff

But god damn

I remember hating boon initially

Then loving it

Then absolutely despising it

But cheesing Sennarth's mech using it was funny, it was my budget Death's Advance 🙂

[balmy condor]

my raid did not see a boon drop

all patch

[void mesa]

oof

wait, I just had a dumb thought
Could you skip the intermission of HoI's last boss with Boon??

Some mages found a weird timing with alter time, so maybe..?

[balmy condor]

no

its a root

you can shadowstep with boon

the HoI intermission will pull you

[void mesa]

that I was not aware of, thats weird. You can step while rooted?

[balmy condor]

yes

[void mesa]

cuz I know on Sennarth the push mech could be dodged with it, same for Rasz (unless my memory is messed up)

[earnest remnant]

you can actually skip it with boon

you dont get yoinked to the gauntlet

[balmy condor]

They fixed that early in the season

Did they not

[earnest remnant]

possibly i dont recall it being fixed, but my memory when it comes to m+ stuff is awful

[muted stirrup]

so, i'm being shoehorned into rogue this tier since i'm the only one who will swap. I've been enjoying outlaw, but i know i'm probably going to want assassination as an option. how different is the spec? i know buttons are going to be different, but is it more pre-emptive gameplay like sub? or is it also reactive like outlaw

[spice surge]

Its more similar to sub than to outlaw

[muted stirrup]

in what way? i tried sub on live and it just seemed...boring?

[spice surge]

In a way that youre not pressing anything literally every global at 80 apm and you need to think a bit about your cooldown (last point not applying to 10.1 sub, but to 10.2)

[muted stirrup]

mm, downtime.

[inner temple]

ahem, SS > BP > SS > BP > SS > BP would like a word lol

[cunning basin]

quick q, is there ever a point on live where you go hissing rune over buzzing?

for ST

[spice surge]

Yes if literally everything you did in this game was fighting packs of 6+ mobs

[inner temple]

super doubt it

its not O.o?!?!

def a meme, my b

[light warren]

what do u guys sim at? or even do in dungeons/ raids

[inner temple]

"it depends"

[light warren]

yea i know

i just feel like my dmg is low

[inner temple]

in like what scenario, at what ilvl, etc etc.

oh i guess this is sin channel lol

[light warren]

im 437 right now

[inner temple]

whats your character name?

[light warren]

Whyrogue

[inner temple]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/rL6bC21RywGQHFhm/GAHvWZpdTg8JBxPf#fight=32,23&source=9,Suplazin&type=summary

there's a decent comparison for you

thats comparing you vs the top guy in your ilvl bracket

[light warren]

he did 12k more

[inner temple]

you trying to compare against someone thats like 447 is irrelevant

yep

[light warren]

how do i figure out why

he has triple my haste

and 500 more crit

probably why

would that be it?

[inner temple]

its going to be a giant pile of things

[light warren]

oh 2 more raid buffs

[inner temple]

so like sure poor itemization will contribute, but youre close enough together that its not going to add up to 12k on its own. yep raid buffs will change, maybe a vantus rune, etc. and thats just on the gear side

[light warren]

wouldnt having 2k more haste make it so hes casting way more then me?

[inner temple]

if you go to the damage done tab, you can see which abilities are doing how much damage, and how often they get used, so like he's hitting more envenoms for less damage, averaging out higher than yours, but his garrotes are doing more damage with fewer GCD's than yours are too

im also not the right person to walk you through rotation issues either, i think if you do like !log or something in chat will will create a thread for someone to review your logs for you

!log

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[inner temple]

yeah that one

oh even better its automated now 🙂

[light warren]

oh

nvm

got them confused

[inner temple]

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/rL6bC21RywGQHFhm/32-Heroic+Rashok,+the+Elder+-+Kill+(4:24)/Whyrogue/standard

there you go, got some tips in there for you to optimize

and it looks like youre not rocking like any enchants at all 😄

[light warren]

now i am

was waiting for some new gear

i didnt have embelish either for raid

[inner temple]

potions help a bunch too

[light warren]

i have phial of glacial fury

[inner temple]

thats a flask

[light warren]

oh u mean the 5 min cd ones

[inner temple]

combat potions are like one time use that lasts 20 seconds or so

yeah

[light warren]

i dont have gold for that lol

i have 10k split between 3 characters

[inner temple]

welcome to raiding life 😄

doing world quests / world bosses is a great way to farm up repair / consumable funds while youre getting started

can also look for a guild that pays for repairs to ease that burden some

[light warren]

sorry i dont understand this website much

[inner temple]

it goes through and reads your logs to see what you did during the fight and will make recommendations based on set criteria

is saying that one of your tea's essentially "got wasted"

mouse over the different color blocks and they'll give different explainations

[light warren]

from this it seems like i only fucked up a couple things

[inner temple]

yep, rotationally your doing alright but your "prep" is poor, no enchants no consumables, etc etc

[light warren]

does this website work for dungeons?

[inner temple]

not sure, worth a shot

[light warren]

Yea idk if its the best i could be wrong. It says i wasted 10k energy which i think is downtime running around but idk

[inner temple]

that would make sense

[light warren]

also that i didnt use IC during boss fight times when its single

[inner temple]

yeah prob not worth for dungeons then

[light warren]

also for rotation wise should i pop a tea at 3 stacks to get it on cd?

or do i jsut hold them

do u have somone 447 log or something

I want to see what their haste is and if i need more

i have 1.6k

[main vessel]

realistically you're better off simming gear upgrades than checking logs

[inner temple]

would recommend checking out the droptimizer sims on raidbots

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/droptimizer

[storm osprey]

does anyone have a plater profile i could try out that has rupture/garrote nameplate color change? ive been trying to import some off wago but a bunch of them are invalid

[light warren]

you dont want weak aura?

[storm osprey]

isnt weakaura separate from plater though? you can still add a nameplate color change through weakauras?

[light warren]

well like i just use a weak aura that shows if my target has my bleeds on them and timer

[storm osprey]

could you DM the string for what your using

[light warren]

https://wago.io/157wjiEJO

i just use this weak aura

might not be what u want tho

[storm osprey]

never hurts to test it

[light warren]

so like normally i jsut have it on the weak aura. some people have it like that on the plater but i dont.

but u jsut want the plater to be different color

[inner temple]

check out ramfams stream @light warren i think his profile has what your looking for

[light warren]

not me

katcakes

[inner temple]

noone said i was smurt

@storm osprey lol

[storm osprey]

lmao

[light warren]

where do i find the aura id's of spells

[storm osprey]

in the spells name, i also think there is an option to turn them on

[inner temple]

are you looking for spellID's?

is the easiest ive found for just casual use

thats ruptures

[light warren]

do you know garrote?

[inner temple]

would have to just search it up on wowhead

[light warren]

nvm

got it

[light warren]

Yo i got what u want

[storm osprey]

oh reallllyyyy

[slate crown]

Is that in default UI? I thought those were elvui

[light warren]

yellow default. pink with garrote and rupture

garrote by itself is blue

rupture by itself is orange

[storm osprey]

HMMMMMMM

[storm osprey]

i like ittt

how you do datttt

[light warren]

modding in plater

[shy pecan]

There's a plater mod I think that's called Druid Dots that does the same thing for Moonfire and Sunfire. Can easily mod it to be Garrote and Rupture

[light warren]

i litterally just did that

lmao

@storm osprey https://wago.io/398Lv0cuq Copy import string
open plater
Modding tab
Import mod
Paste.
go to the auras = {164812,16815}
change to 1943,703.

[storm osprey]

okay thats awesome thank you!!!

[gaunt moat]

Yo that's really cool

is it possible to achieve something like that with Elvui?
i'm not using platter

[light warren]

ive never used elvui so no idea

[gaunt moat]

I'll fiddle with the settings to see if there's anything that can be done

but the idea is great

[shy pecan]

#222356141785612288 message
#222356141785612288 message
Those are some leads from the Tukui community discord

[light warren]

do rogues just not get into keys?

[gaunt moat]

Nope

[light warren]

im the highest ilvl i can be without crests

[shy pecan]

What ilvl is that?

[light warren]

437

[shy pecan]

Oh. Aspect crests.

So here's the thing. It's not likely because you're a rogue. It's likely because you don't have score and/or ilvl.

[light warren]

im 2200 on rogue 2650 on main

[shy pecan]

Because the group leader has like 100 applicants and all of them somewhere around 2600+ with like 445 ilvl.

[light warren]

yea idk how to even get into keys lol

[shy pecan]

The old "just run your own key" angle

[granite grail]

Bro I wish those people applied to my keys. Nobody applying to my keys bc my rogue is 2k at 434 trying to start a 21 lmao

Dropped it to an 18, got some goons it, then cranked it back to a 21. Its rough out here

[light warren]

how the hell u do 21 at 434

u need at least 130 srt

[granite grail]

I cant even attempt it, bc nobody will join

[light warren]

what i mean is how do u have the dmg for that

[shy pecan]

People were doing 20s at like 431 ilvl or something like that at the beginning of the patch

[light warren]

im 437 and even with raid spec i am like 110k st with all buffs

on mythic + set im like 70k

[granite grail]

Idk, ive been consistently top of the meters in the keys ive ran in the 18s ive ran have always either 2 or 3 starred them. Im sure I could do 21s

[light warren]

i need to see ur sim

[inner temple]

alot of it comes down to execution too, your overall damage for a key isnt necassarily relevant

[grim tangle]

I mean we easily did 20s at the start of the patch with like 425 ilvl

[inner temple]

you might have 200k dps overalls, but tank took 20min between pulls so you failed kinda wonky stuffs

[grim tangle]

you can definitely do 21s at 434

[granite grail]

My gear isnt even optimized correctly.

[inner temple]

https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/season-df-2/9347713-20-neltharus

there's a timed 20 at 429

[granite grail]

Tanks have it easiest

Ive been running witha 424 tank and theres no problem

[inner temple]

depending on which tank, but yeah

[granite grail]

We been timing 17s and 18s without a problem.

[granite grail]

Brew

[light warren]

ok but whats the dmg

i dotn see how u time 20's if all 3 are doing 60 to 80k

[inner temple]

ah not to much difference but i was meaning 20+ my brew was getting beat up 😄

[granite grail]

?????????

[inner temple]

no idea, those keys where months ago

[inner temple]

you prob dont these days

[gaunt moat]

@shy pecanCool, i got it to work

[inner temple]

tbh, 60k is like what a dps does without using a CD the whole dungeon

[granite grail]

Yeah, the 18 ur we 3 starred I think I was only 119k overall which isnt high

[light warren]

119 at 434?

[granite grail]

Overall 119k, yeah

[shy pecan]

Pretty easy to set up?

[gaunt moat]

extremly easy

I'll show you the resuls, i went with your color system

I still need to make the color prettier, but i worked on fuctionallity first

[light warren]

i need to see ur log or sim or something

[storm forum]

what is this?

[gaunt moat]

Red: Enemy
Blue: Garrote only
Orange: Rupture Only
Pink: Garrote + Rupture

on elvui

[storm forum]

Wowee

[shy pecan]

I was curious of there was a way to do it for Elvui. I've only been using plater but that's because I use it for other things like a M+ profile for like key mobs to CC and stuff

Looks good though

[inner temple]

so for context and to disuade you from worrying to much about sim dps / what someone did in a random dungeon, this is my tanks overall damage at like 436ish in a BH 20,

its going to change per dungeon, per run, you'll get a feel for "whats good" over time

[light warren]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/o4KErNGFVEdG8qaADdF9yt

[inner temple]

2min of dslice is not what you want to be simming

also need to remember that you'll work 10x harder than anyone else to do damage as sin in dungeons

[drifting cloud]

thats just a visual, its a normal ds sim

[inner temple]

thanks

[drifting cloud]

I think atleast

[inner temple]

lol

it is, opened sim and its at 6min

[gaunt moat]

@shy pecan All I had to do was create 3 style filter
Each one I set in the debuff the relative debuffs (rupture / garrote / rupture and garrote), for the one that requires both i set "require all"
Then I gave rupture + garrote style higher priority so it will override the other two

[light warren]

its simmed at 6 min by default

cant change it

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hCZzQ9eiVxjwZk7wunB8EZ

82k is my single target

[inner temple]

nono, 6min is good, just the link/picture in discord showed up as 2min as a bug

[light warren]

and this is 437 but with 447 weapon

which this is not enough dmg for 20+

[shy pecan]

Makes sense

[light warren]

and like most of the time my cds are not up for the bosses so its more like 60k

[inner temple]

grind out them 17s :), will feed you crests and stones for upgrades so that you can get the ilvl for 20's.

[drifting cloud]

youre playing 1 embelishment and no sockets in neck?

[light warren]

well i dont care about the 20's

[shy pecan]

Easier to create than Plater for sure, but a little more clunky because you have to create three of them versus Plater just using a few lines of lua

[light warren]

im just saying i have no idea at 434 how u get even more then that

unless its just a carry

[inner temple]

how to get more damage, or more than 20's?

and there are plenty of sin rogues that push 20+, def not a class issue 🙂

[light warren]

no im saying like for 20's in my key at least i expect around 110/120k after opener

and if ur 434 idk how u get that

[inner temple]

we'll need someone that plays sin in keys to give you a better frame of reference than i can tbh, i dont know what sin damage even looks like :/

are dungeons your main focus or are you interested in raiding as well?

[light warren]

i just did a 17 underrot and this 441 survial did 79k overall which like i would never invite them again lol

Dungeons is what i spend 80% of my time in

[inner temple]

are you interested in sub or outlaw at all?

[light warren]

no i hate sub

[inner temple]

XD

[granite grail]

Sub is crungo

[light warren]

Actually the worst feeling to play

i would just go back to monk

[granite grail]

Id play outlaw but holy moly does it feel bad if there are ever more than 8 targets

[light warren]

outlaw i leveled to 53 and then i couldnt keep going and quit

[inner temple]

how often you hit more than 8? lol

also there's like 3 specs that scale past that

[light warren]

very often i find

[granite grail]

Pretty often with the right tanks

[light warren]

if i am playing my brew its almost always 8+ if i can help it

on tyr weeks at least

82 rating lmao

[inner temple]

out here wondering why your damage is low chillin in discord instead of pumpin lol

[light warren]

im waiting to find a key

it takes me half hour plus

my dmg isnt even low considering my sim tho

[inner temple]

def gotta find a guild and some friends to run with 🙂

[gaunt moat]

@shy pecanI've also added that it only works on "non targeted" cause i only care about it for m+ where i have to spread dots. i know what my current target has.

[light warren]

like i do close to my sim usually

[drifting cloud]

now get a 2nd embelishment and the 4 sockets youre missing and youll do even more dmg

[shy pecan]

Personally, I'd probably just add it on the target for consistency sake

[light warren]

i need a new neck first and i need money and aspects for that

[drifting cloud]

should be enough gold for the sockets in the neck

[light warren]

i need new neck first

this one is literally oth wrong stats

its 900+ vers

[shy pecan]

Can't really get a new neck if you can't get into keys though...

Catch-22 there

So might as well just invest a bit of gold for when you do get in

[light warren]

i cant waste gold

[shy pecan]

[light warren]

Right now i am getting crests to recraft my wrists to 447 and add toxic patch

[granite grail]

My gear is all sorts of fucked

Im running tier chest and engi helm lmao

[drifting cloud]

it really doesnt matter as much as you think it does

ilvl is king just dont rund around with 8k vers and youre good

[gaunt moat]

@shy pecan yeah you're right it's better when it's consistent.
I wonder if we should also add crimson tempest on top of it.

[inner temple]

https://tenor.com/view/umm-um-ummm-ummok-puppet-gif-17038634

[light warren]

yo in all this time i got one application to my key

[shy pecan]

I figure that one you don't need to worry about. That's like another three filters or something. Also, applies a lot easier than garrote/rupture so I figure it's just a fire and forget kinda deal?

[shy pecan]

There's like eight Dragonriding WQs up right now. Each give like 500g, so that can fund your three sockets and gems

[light warren]

i did them already unless they reset today

[inner temple]

might be doing this wrong 😄 ryler lol

[gaunt moat]

they reset on wendsday and saturday

[light warren]

so yea ive done them

its the only way ive been making gold in df

doing the riding

i have 3 toons i do it on when im bored

but this stupid new event makes it so any riding in the zone doesnt give the bags and instead some essense shit

this isntead of bag

[deft flicker]

Outlaw gear moment

[inner temple]

fax

[simple rivet]

can somebody smarter than me tell me why yellow uses sepsis like 15second into the fight instead of using it in the opener and deathmark right after? and why he vanishes at ~50 sec every fight?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/za1MTf7r6tnwKNAm#fight=13&type=casts&view=timeline&source=10

[balmy condor]

Deranged

[gaunt moat]

I'm guessing he's going for maximum imp garrote uptime

[balmy condor]

But yeh probably

He’s missing the sepsis stuff in shiv

Which is a bigger loss

So idk what he’s doing

Feelcrafting I guess

[brazen zodiac]

hi whisp cx

[balmy condor]

Hewwo

[granite grail]

😦

[oak sky]

Its almost like theres a robot that can make rotation decisions for us

[balmy condor]

Imlaozisible

Imposisuble

Whatever

Clloose enoyg

[oak sky]

You sauced bro

?

That vodka redbull hit or what

[balmy condor]

Broo the artender

Couunts slow

[deft flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/vodka-trago-two-shots-sandra-lee-drinks-gif-17311494

[frozen iris]

@balmy condor what do you do for work that makes you stay up so late?

Besides wow stuff

[balmy condor]

Mmmechanic at bowling alley

[frozen iris]

In a 1000 years I would have never guessed that

[woeful wagon]

can someone tell me the spell id's for the individual echoing reprimand buffs? i cant seem to find that anywhere

[shrewd night]

Can download reprimand wa and see it there, or scour through wowhead I guess

[granite grail]

I also stay up all night 🙂

I work 11pm to 7am 🙂

[lucid birch]

@balmy condor baby boy wyd

[quiet oar]

He is drunk

[light warren]

does vicious venoms or doomblade give more dmg

[balmy condor]

oommmw to chigcago

[lucid birch]

let’s fucking go

[lucid birch]

[balmy condor]

me 11 nannnosecond pofff the zaza

ooongod

I realllate to that frrog

heee juuust liieieaike me

[glacial crypt]

fr fr

[quiet oar]

Whisp irl

Rn

[glacial crypt]

i don't have the emote but it seems this is him irl

[lucid birch]

[willow barn]

Do we vanish in opener bevor deathmark? Nuee to Assa sry for basic. Asking. 😭

[blazing jewel]

Nope

Hold it for second dm

[woeful wagon]

its 323558 for for combo point 2, 323559 for combo point 3, and 323560 for combo point 4

[floral shoal]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/idtip

Use some video capture program so you can pause and write IDs down later.

[woeful wagon]

tyty

[flint tusk]

Sharex is pretty good for keeping it light weight.
Can snip to screen regions also so can just cover tooltips etc.

[woeful wagon]

it shows spell id's on the details tooltips too so you can go back and check your auras

this is sick

[floral shoal]

I made my sister gift me Bandicam over ten years ago, I don't think there were free alternatives back then.

[dawn haven]

I love doing bombs

On sark

[quick idol]

Is elusiveness any good on rashok over cheat death since we can pretty much feint everything ?

[scarlet orbit]

just go with cheat its better

[quick idol]

kk

ty

[floral shoal]

Someone should make an addon that saves a screenshot every time cheat death procs. Probably hilarious. Cheat and being dwarf saved me so many times 🤠

[split veldt]

when do you guys use beacon in the opener?

[void mesa]

After rupture, before DM

oooor

you can be a degen, use it on pull and then vanish right after. If you do it 0.5s early you reset boss

(dont recommend)

[split veldt]

lolol

[frigid pilot]

what do the cool kids/parselords use as a weakaura pack rn?

im using modified afenar but dont think it shows empowered garrote buff duration

[gaunt moat]

I'm using Luxthos with some personal modifications.

[frigid pilot]

what do you like about it better than others?

[gaunt moat]

I haven't tried others so I can't compare

[slate crown]

Many are good, I started with Afenar though so that's generally what I use, though I also heavily modify it, I think it shows WAY too much information than needed

Afenar's garrote doesn't show empowered, so I took theirs and made it show empowered: https://wago.io/zxhRObQLf

[clever sapphire]

using zacs and notters sepsis wa

[limber lion]

I use modified Afenar, I just took the Garrote/Sepsis weakauras from Luxthos, they work flawlessly.

Not a fan of how most packs look, I much prefer Afenar's look wise but Luxthos Gar/Sepsis functionality is too good to pass up. I pretty much took the logic and just make the icons look and work similarly to Afenar's.

[frigid pilot]

ah, good idea

[split veldt]

https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m

i like this one

[slate crown]

I'm also a fan of "I know what utility / defensive CDs I have, only show them if they're on CD" which reduces noise when things are not on CD, but that's personal preference. Afenar by default has a huge block down at the bottom of semi transparent icons that I rearrange to other locations and only show them if they're on CD at full opacity

[gaunt moat]

That's how I set up mine with Luxthos's

[slate crown]

Yeah like that

[split veldt]

i would love to move DM next to sepis on the right so it doesnt look all lopsided, but im too dumb to figure out how lol

[gaunt moat]

if it's set up as groups in the WA
you just need to drag the DM WA to the other group

otherwise, you can just litteraly drag it out as its own WA, and just position it wherever you want

[sage igloo]

Does ass need 2 daggers?

[slate crown]

Yes

[sage igloo]

Cool so I need another one

[slate crown]

Correct.

[split veldt]

@gaunt moat well shit, that was easier than i thought

[gaunt moat]

https://tenor.com/view/themoreyouknow-more-know-gif-4483207

[limber lion]

or just place the Sepsis inside of the dynamic group. Probs called "core" or something

The order of abilities inside the group dedicates the order

But if that works for you, good stuff

[split veldt]

the gaps in the bars are kinda annoying, how would i add arcane torrent there since i just realized im not tracking it, so it fill the gaps again

[limber lion]

Just add any ability inside the group

If it's Arcane Torrent, which is only tracked when it's off cd, you have to change the condition

So it's visible at all times

[split veldt]

aite

[gaunt moat]

which gaps specifically are you talking about?
But in anycase, under the "display" tab (i think) in a group there's the setting for "spacing" which dictates the gap between elements in the group

[split veldt]

the ones ont he main bar after i moved DM

[slate crown]

These gaps

[limber lion]

Yeh just do what I said

[gaunt moat]

Ah, well it's a dynamic group, so the sizing will change with amount of elements. but you can increase the spacing like i suggested.

[limber lion]

The energy/CP bars are made for 6 weak auras

[slate crown]

I think they just want to have another ability in that set so it makes it fill up, just adding torrent as a new icon to the group will make it work like cev said

Also yes, increasing spacing will also work

[limber lion]

Do not do what Notter said or it'll make it worse

just add the at there and it's fine

[gaunt moat]

I'm under the assumption he only wants 5 icons there

[limber lion]

reading helps

[gaunt moat]

oh he wants arcane torrent

[limber lion]

You didn't even know what gaps he was talking about

and now you're suddenly assuming he wants 5 icons

but yeh

it's fine

man's rocking a sick ui now

[gaunt moat]

easiest way to do that:
right click on any of the WA in that group > duplicate
then under triggers tab, change the spell to Arcane Torrent

[limber lion]

bruh

that is not

how you do it

You think the Slice and Dice conditions or Rupture conditions are good for AT?

No

Also

AT is already being tracked

Like I said

I already told him everything he has to do

Just chill

[gaunt moat]

I don't see arcane anywhere on his WAs

[limber lion]

reading helps

again

[limber lion]

.

[slate crown]

It may not be tracked as Arcane Torrent specifically, I don't use that pack so idn. Afenar has a generic Racials icon which is all of them, if you can't find the torrent one in your list

The aura title, at least

[limber lion]

Yeh

[gaunt moat]

The floor is yours.

[slate crown]

But the duplicate and change trigger is still a good method honestly if it isn't already tracked, you just have to pick your source carefully

[split veldt]

AT was tracked as rogue racial, only showed up when pressed

[slate crown]

As opposed to creating one from scratch

Because many packs use consistent themes / display styles which you'll want to carry over, if you create from scratch those won't be present

[limber lion]

Yeah you would not create it from scratch

Because it's already tracked

And you don't need to

It's literally in the pack already

You would be tracking AT twice

[split veldt]

i dragged it to the main auras, but it was all wonky and i couldnt figure out how to setup the conditions right, because i is dumb, so i just duplicated kick and changed it to AT

[limber lion]

Have to make new conditions after duplicating Garrote or something

[slate crown]

I'm giving generic weakaura advice for future icons and said "If it isn't already tracked" 😛

[limber lion]

Good good

[split veldt]

so now im gucci

[limber lion]

Yeh looks good

I'm personally not a big fan of the small icons at the bottom being transparent so I made them 100% visiblity at all times

Hard to track them if there's stuff on the floor and shit happening around ya

and you have to quickly glimpse if you have cloak or steps or not

[gaunt moat]

I moved mine above the core icons, cause when they were down there my eyes couldn't see them
took me away from the center of the screen

[quick idol]

Are they not full visible in fight ?

[limber lion]

They are

I don't see the reason for them to not be fully visible outside of combat though

[quick idol]

true

[limber lion]

Like in mythic+

You go in and out of combat all the time

[quick idol]

Dont know why afenar does them like that

[slate crown]

For those I don't like glancing at a big dynamic group, I like A) separating them into smaller clusters (Mobility, defensives, etc), B) placing them in locations consistent across all characters so I know "This is where I look for defensives" and C) hiding them if off CD and only showing on CD. I know what buttons I have, I know what's available on my character, I don't need to see them constantly if they're available and they aren't meant to be used on CD

[limber lion]

It was a new thing in Dragonflight, not sure why either

Maybe he thinks they look better like that

[quick idol]

pretty sure it was this way back in SL as well

[limber lion]

Could be

I've been using Afenar since BFA and ever since just modified it to my needs

[quick idol]

This is the best to do

[gaunt moat]

I'm dreading the day 10.2 hits for my WAs
i know there's gonna be an update, and that it's gonna destroy everything and i'll have to remake it from scratch

[split veldt]

do i just delete this to make them visible?

[limber lion]

No, that's for desaturation and border color

Sec, just logged in

[quick idol]

Tbf, they are nothing real new with the new talents

except splatter

which to me doesnt need a WA but more an icon on plater

[gaunt moat]

I dunno, he might do something with Exsang
like some indication when you're below 150 energy or whatever

[quick idol]

Ah

[limber lion]

This is what mine looks like. I have potions/trinkets/healthstones below, under that all the important utility/defensive cooldowns and under those the useless shit ones that I rarely ever press.

[quick idol]

Yeah but then you just upload the update with new exsang

and you drag and drop it to your former group

[limber lion]

My utility stuff looks to be at 90% opacity or something, didn't crank to 100 either

[quick idol]

Then the new exsang will be on the former WA