assassination

[blazing jewel]

so you need vanish at around 2:05

but there is nothing to use vanish on in the first 5 seconds of the fight

[near valley]

Ambush

[blazing jewel]

[quiet oar]

[clever sapphire]

Who else to mention it than an outlaw

Not even surprised

[near valley]

[solid forge]

understandable

so there cause of my first vanish i'm loosing 7sec of improved garrote on deathmark

[blazing jewel]

your second sepsis is slightly delayed

most of the time you will do your 2min dm have time for like 1 maybe 2 finishers

then your garrotes will be in pandemic thats when youd vanish

[solid forge]

thx for the help!

will look at this for a little 3 mm bosses this evening

[tired night]

Is there a weakaura for tracking empowered VS normal garrotes? Dont think I saw one in pins or FAQ

[blazing jewel]

a few of the rogue WA packs have it in them

I know whispyrs does

[sharp viper]

so does luxthos'

[sudden canyon]

do you want just like an icon with a number on it or do u use bars

https://wago.io/Morc3MOxZ heres mine. its just an icon with a number on it that i use as part of my rogue kit.

You can turn it into a bar inside of the Weakaura menus interface, just:
Right Click the aura -> Convert to ... -> Progress Bar.

[clever sapphire]

i just count in my head

[sudden canyon]

its got custom conditions in there if u like to customize ur colors n stuff.

[gaunt moat]

How is more crit giving me less damage

[quiet oar]

Sim error

[gaunt moat]

Also now I'm having an existential breakdown cause i've only been using buzzing runes

[quiet oar]

For Sure its the buffs

For Sure

[blazing jewel]

Is your default set to crit

[gaunt moat]

It should
but in advanced sim you can't set default rune

[blazing jewel]

Probably just low rolled in the margin of error

Funny to look at though

[quiet oar]

What is your % crit

Thats the cap

Everything beyond is a loss

[vestal wren]

thats error range

default is buzzing, so buzzing is equal to "notter"

[gaunt moat]

Me am buzzing?

[ancient rain]

Anybody knows how I can override the sim to use crimson tempest in single target?

[vestal wren]

!sheet

[prisma monolith]

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[ancient rain]

I wanted to compare no venom rush vs no cttc

[vestal wren]

crimson tempest has a single target condition

actions.dot+=/crimson_tempest,if=spell_targets=1&(!debuff.shiv.up&!talent.dashing_scoundrel|(target.health.pct<35&talent.zoldyck_recipe.rank>=2))&effective_combo_points>=4&refreshable&!will_lose_exsanguinate&debuff.amplifying_poison.stack<15&(!talent.kingsbane|!cooldown.kingsbane.up)&target.time_to_die-remains>4&!buff.cold_blood.up

if you want to modify how it is used, i would suggest you to first test it in a comparison like this:

[ancient rain]

My sim didn't use it at all

[tired night]

I got it figured out, I imported Luxthos's and added the trigger/conditions from it that made it turn green when there was an improved garrote and added it to my garrote weakaura

[ancient rain]

Thanks for all the effort!

[vestal wren]

there is no "easy" way to modify how the sim plays sadly

so you will need to change the apl if you want to test how it plays diffrently

only exception is priority_rotation=1 because we did add this variable to the apl to allow for a toggle

[blazing jewel]

This line seems like it needs all the stars to align to get called

[tired night]

Also idr if improved garrote did this before but it's letting me spam it during the buff. I thought it went away after a single use

[vestal wren]

it is fairly specific yes

[tired night]

But I can spam it without CD during the entire 3s buff. So opening from stealth a total of 4 improved garrotes

[blazing jewel]

That’s from the sin tree

Forget the talent name

[tired night]

I thought the talent let you cast it for 3s after leaving stealth but that casting garrote during the buff consumed the buff

Like with exsang last patch where the opener was garrote-->slice->garrote, that 2nd garrote would consume the buff from improved garrote. On dummies I could go garrote->garrote->garrote->garrote and all were buffed. Unsure if that's normal and maybe I'm just remembering wrong

[quiet oar]

Its improved garrote

That lets you cast it

[blazing jewel]

Pretty sure you’re just remembering it wrong

[sullen gyro]

Yeah that's always how it worked

Even when it was subterfuge in the old talents

[tired night]

Okay cool. For some reason I thought the 3s buff got consumed on cast

[quiet oar]

Thats subterfugs

Without improved garrote

[grand trail]

Scana what happened to your name

[blazing jewel]

Things

Quake changed it so I’m returning the favor

[clever sapphire]

Scana likes sark bombs

[blazing jewel]

Bro I picked up my bomb

And immediately had black hole spawn on my head

That was sick

[quiet oar]

You still got it?

Like not dying and getting down

[blazing jewel]

Slight bit of terrorism but got the job done

[quiet oar]

Had to be close

[blazing jewel]

That one gets spell bop

[quiet oar]

Yeah i know

But bomb Timing

[blazing jewel]

So I got bop and then had to stand in a swirl but that didn’t give enough time to get in a good spot

So the circle I dropped was in a kinda bad spot

[quiet oar]

Yeah ok

Thats what it bought

No way you can go down in a good Spot after that

[blazing jewel]

Hindsight I could have played it infinitely better but it was bed time

[quiet oar]

[grand trail]

Stop talking about rogue's doing bombs

Or I will have to do too

[blazing jewel]

In reality it’s not bad for a rogue to do a bomb

Not going to have fun doing it but it’s good to do the second bomb set in p3 and force the black hole on an immune

[grand trail]

Yeah I know about that

They don't want me to kick add either

Idk 🤷

[blazing jewel]

Just ping your raid leader in here like quake did to me

[grand trail]

No pinging

[royal lantern]

what about plinking?

https://tenor.com/view/plink-gif-27475997

[autumn peak]

???

[royal lantern]

?

whats wrong?

[autumn peak]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tmCqZjtHGRgj2pNcek2bjc

I saw that in fuu sims it's that strong ?

[royal lantern]

best offhand ye

offhand is just a statstick

so weapons with any kind of dmg proc tend to be the best option for it

[autumn peak]

ty

[ancient rain]

I'm just asking to clarify, is it normal for a quick sim with crimson tempest talented to not use it a single time during the entire 5 minutes?

[ancient rain]

oh i see, !talent.dashing_scoundrel means ill never cast it

[austere fulcrum]

Why would u cast ct on st fight ?

Not sure but probably minor dmg loss

[ancient rain]

I'm trying to be a pioneer of sarkareth progression

[austere fulcrum]

I see, well i am quite sure it is still dps loss to have it but I understand your point:)

[ancient rain]

apparently CT is truly awful as fk in single target

[clever sapphire]

lucky us

[ancient rain]

any CT gamers know if its better to spam CT in aoe or just apply it once

[clever sapphire]

there was some whispyr take somewhere that goes something like this:

If you have the tierset proc poison bomb will do more dmg, if you dont have tset proc both do the same dmg (assuming they are grouped up and pb will hit them all)

[marble hemlock]

difference will be super minor either way. maintain ct, maintain envenom, then do whatever you like more

[idle inlet]

How much extra damage does getting your second shiv on your deathmarks?

[austere fulcrum]

So in m+ if pack is moving i suggest you to spam ct. if they re stacked not moving much ( poison bomb ) spam envenom after applying CT

It is situational, depends on pack, tank movement etc.

[rare jackal]

We are however one of the best boss damage specs in the game now, right up there with PI specs like unholy, aff/demo, and mages. This is a great position to be in.
real shit?

damn

maybe its time to whip out the ol reliable

[gusty mirage]

Real shit

[burnt latch]

line between real shit and really shit is one 5% aura buff

[vestal wren]

5% is the sweet spot for a change

not big enough to cause problems but big enough to be noticeable by the player

[rare jackal]

do i understand this correctly, its fine to eat the first stealth cast from sepsis in the opener? or am i missing something

[spice surge]

And also the classic case of a spec looking worse than it is because not a lot of players are playing it or not a lot are playing it well

[frozen iris]

Yep

You eat the stealth cast

[spice surge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/751133387905040425/1110297654820360307/03sepsis.png
Can also Echoing Reprimand instead of mutilate before the rupture, which ever you prefer

[rare jackal]

i saw that, i just found the annotations a bit confusing

[spice surge]

The garrote from sepsis is there

[rare jackal]

right, but the one after 10 seconds

not the one immediately after casting sepsis

[spice surge]

As close to the end of the buff as possible

[rare jackal]

👍

[rotund oak]

❤️

[grand trail]

I see people both doing garrote > snd> ER > rupture or garrote >snd > mut to 5> rupture

I started with the one from faq but now I like the one with ER before dm

[rancid nimbus]

what phial are you guys using in m+?

[clever sapphire]

vers

[frozen iris]

I think it depends on the key level but I’d say higher level mythic + you probably want vers

[rancid nimbus]

I have been running vers all the time.. just wondering in lower keys what would be more dps?

[clever sapphire]

could be crit, probably would sim it

only reason im not using crit is because im a cheap ass and vers flasks are cheaper

[rancid nimbus]

I think I use it on my dk and my healer is always mad.. asking me where the damage is coming from 😄

[clever sapphire]

equip echo class trinket too

fuck them

(thats what i do)

[rancid nimbus]

anyways thanks for the feedback. Will run a sim 🙂

[lusty surge]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

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[lusty surge]

!fuu

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[junior fiber]

Assasination rogue become meta in M+ ?

[pseudo hamlet]

Yes

(in my dreams only)

[royal lantern]

buffs

21

[thorn fjord]

Sin simming 4k higher than DB sub now in ST

But it doesnt feel that way on actual pulls lol

Weird

[vestal wren]

its just zero playing sin because he likes it

[thorn fjord]

Anyone else just want this horrid tier to be over with already?

[junior fiber]

Yeah but that impressiv to see assa in 29

[thorn fjord]

Its only been like 3 months but its felt like 3 years and I'm starting to hate the game/guild

[strange python]

i also do plan on taking a break unless some Sub Sepulcher Tier level of bonuses come out for assa next patch

[pseudo hamlet]

Same. But I think that's not that bad compared to the SoO patch in WoD.
At least we can take some break from the game 😄

[clever sapphire]

SL was better than dragonflight

[royal lantern]

ylu realise

in SL we would have been still in the first patch 1month ago

right

wow players and nostalgia, name a more iconic duo

[clever sapphire]

Didnt play it, s2 is where it started for me

My nostalgia is the most based one since i started where SL began to become good

[royal lantern]

its just

when i read that take, im not sure if people didnt play it like you did(which is 100% ok)

or if they have such a shorttime memory and always just go OLD GOOD NEW BAD

cus like

holy shit SL was horrible with Patch circles

[junior fiber]

I start wow in SL, and obviously that was not a good extension. For an exemple, if you want to play all 3 spec of rogue, just good luck with torghast, congregation etc

[royal lantern]

over half a year of launch patch, and then 9.1 was litearlly "a shit raid and "the maw, now with a couple trees" thats it"

[clever sapphire]

Dunno, i liked sanctum, korthia was meh tried farming a few mounts. Sepulcher was really fun, the zone i didnt even really touch

Enjoyed the dungeons too

Its probably just S1 and early S2 that scarred most people too hard

[junior fiber]

Dungeons was very cool for rogue i think

Not massiv pack like DF where sub is king

[royal lantern]

tbf, early SL rogue was the opposite of cool

holy shit, launch rogue was in the worst state ever

[junior fiber]

But i think is just because i pref outlaw 😄

Launch rogue was perfect

Nerf -> Nerf -> Nerf

[royal lantern]

assa litearlly doing less DMG then some tanks

sub beeing 1of the weakest options

[junior fiber]

Haha that so tru

[royal lantern]

outlaw beeing SOMEWHAT ok-ish

[junior fiber]

But in MM+

Outlaw with 100 crit on necrotic

[thorn fjord]

Def not comparing our current situation to the SL patch cycles @royal lantern

Dunno I feel like I started this tier off really strong and now at this point I feel mediocre

And I’m not speaking solely on Sin

Just a lot of different factors coming together making me feel the way I do

[gusty mirage]

21 PIs to do 13k less dps than sub rogue is hardly becoming meta

[junior fiber]

Pi on outlaw or sub is not good enough so is ok 😄

[gusty mirage]

yeah but you play sub, do 13k more dps than a completely giga buffed assassination rogue, PI the bear druid and have them get more DPS than the sin rogue does

if the discussion is meta, assassination will not be meta with the way it currently plays

[junior fiber]

No ! look we are better in assa than drood

[gusty mirage]

no matter how much zerocool wants it to be

[thorn fjord]

Don’t think he cares

[austere fulcrum]

he was playin sub last time i saw

so he is not assa

[gusty mirage]

I mean that key he played assassination

in a 29 UR

[austere fulcrum]

true

[thorn fjord]

Tyrannical?

[gusty mirage]

no

[junior fiber]

i just found that so cool to see assa rogue 😄

[austere fulcrum]

i do 23/24s as assa and my dps is never an issue right now

it is harder to execute as assa than sub rog in my opinion

that is all just painful 🙂

[gusty mirage]

I mean the discussion was about "meta" and sure you could play assassination in 23s-29s

but you could also play sub and do better damage

[austere fulcrum]

do u think it is still way better after buffs ?

even so, it must be really minor i guess/hope 🙂

[junior fiber]

i hope for one day see pushing key with all 3 rogue

[gusty mirage]

the buffs change nothing about assassination having a place in high keys tbh

4.3% damage increase when you're like 10-15% behind the other 2 rogue specs with a worse m+ damage profile

[weak plover]

You could also play sub and do worse damage

[gusty mirage]

kinda fixes nothing

assassination is just a flawed spec in m+

[cerulean nest]

So I'm getting assigned second bomb set in p3. Should be coming up kinda before the ~5:30 sepsis right?

[weak plover]

Sorry to hear that

[austere fulcrum]

yea u right, i just dont wanna accept blizz forcing people to play classes/specs they dont want to 🙂

10.2 we s tier

🥲

[gusty mirage]

yeah I'm not a fan of playing sub in keys either

so I just stopped doing them

is what it is

[solemn fjord]

Hi guys can I bind my Dragonfire Bomb Dispenser on a spell or it's an a bad idea ?

[gusty mirage]

you can, but if you run double on-use it's not the best idea

so like if you're using bomb & beacon you're better off using 2 dif binds, if you got like essence/call to suffering/dice

[solemn fjord]

Ok i only have one for the moment so i'm gonna bind it what's the best spell to couple with ?

[gusty mirage]

macro it and forget about it

something you press often

like mutilate

[austere fulcrum]

i guess that requires u to not press mutilate for 10 sec at some point right ? or i may be wrong

i rmember something like that

[gusty mirage]

that's only if you run double on-use

[austere fulcrum]

ah okay

[gusty mirage]

cause it'll put your other trinket on cd

like if you press your macro it'll toss beacon on the shared on-use CD

which kinda scuffs usage

[austere fulcrum]

question, so if u are out of range to hit mutilate but close enough to send bomb trinket, what happens

do u still send bomb or no

[thorn fjord]

Bomb sends

[austere fulcrum]

niice

[solemn fjord]

Ty guys 🙂

[arctic hare]

is that for Zskarn? if so, does our magic immune work for that?

[austere fulcrum]

where can i find macro for bomb/mutilate ?

[arctic hare]

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[cerulean nest]

nah Sark

[arctic hare]

Ahh, damn

Bring Kingsbane back!

[vestal wren]

you just add /use 13 or /use 14 to your macro

so something like

/cast Mutilate
/use 13```

[arctic hare]

Hmm, I should do that instead of typing the actual name of the trinket out

[vestal wren]

if you use the top item slot for bomb

you can do that too

[arctic hare]

oh, sweet lol

[vestal wren]

just /use trinket name

[arctic hare]

its what I'm doing with Irideus

and deathmark at least

[austere fulcrum]

thank u

[vestal wren]

the /use has the advantage to always work consistently

[arctic hare]

very true

[vestal wren]

so it will always use the trinket in the upper (13) or lower (14) slot

[arctic hare]

Though, need a bit of advice on the usage of irideus fragment. So normally, I just cast it off rip, and since its a 3 minute cd, it doesn't line up with deathmark very well. Should I hold deathmark until its back up? or just hold irideus until deathmark is back up?

OR, just not give a shit and cast irideus off rip whenever

[gusty mirage]

fragment is kinda poop my friend

it oversims by roughly 18%

[sudden canyon]

i like using the item name coz when i swap trinkets to other on uses i dont wanna swap my macro's out or constantly have to be checking what slot my on use is in

[arctic hare]

Well, its better than the windscar whetstone and algethar puzzle box that I had from last season lol

[gusty mirage]

true

I would just hold it to use w/ DM

[arctic hare]

its also a difference of about 20 ilvls, and okay, thanks

[gusty mirage]

it might be doo doo but at least the agility will be more impactful when you have double the bleeds and poisons up

and a ton of energy flowing cause of that

[arctic hare]

indeed

my burst is a beautiful sight to behold, 200k on a good day at 421 ilvl

[gusty mirage]

[arctic hare]

Obviously with the help of evoker

[gusty mirage]

gamer

[arctic hare]

Because they don't know how to focus people properly yet, so.

[gusty mirage]

nah nah those filthy lizards don't deserve any recognition

its your damage now

[arctic hare]

LOL, okay

idk if I get PI either, nor do I care

[thorn fjord]

if you have locks or Dk's you wont

[arctic hare]

Uhhhh, we don't?

I think?

[thorn fjord]

Then maybe lol

[gusty mirage]

did you kill sark yet

[thorn fjord]

No

we're like 70 something pulls in

Getting to P2 consistently though

[arctic hare]

Ahh, yeah, I'm getting 2 pi's

and then the spriest is being stupid and giving an aug evoker pi

which, like, wha?

[gusty mirage]

p1 damage nerfs will help a ton

[thorn fjord]

Yeah they did

[gusty mirage]

and the big add health nerfs will help with p2 prog

soon

[thorn fjord]

God not soon enough bro

[arctic hare]

Is mythic sark that bad?

[gusty mirage]

he what

[arctic hare]

Yeah...

[thorn fjord]

Ton of dmg P1.. But the nerfs Tues helped

[gusty mirage]

you should've seen it before the first set of nerfs

that was fun

[thorn fjord]

yeah i can only imagine

And with less gear at the point

[gusty mirage]

down to 8% health every clear

wahoo

[thorn fjord]

That must have been a doozy

[gusty mirage]

just tell them to PI the tank at that point lol

[arctic hare]

honestly

Best part is, we've got a fucking HUNTER, AND A RET PALADIN LMAO

[gusty mirage]

hunters aren't people tho

[thorn fjord]

Little green men

[arctic hare]

Dmg breakdown on heroic kazzara

[sweet dawn]

Quick question, when you empower garrote from stealth or with sepsis (which is the same but you know what I mean) it's empowered for the whole duration right? because weakauras I see stop showing the garrotes as empowered after a few seconds even though they should still be empowered

[gusty mirage]

ya, unless you overwrite it with another garrote

I would recommend luxthos's pack, or whispyr's modified afenar

they both track the sepsis garrotes too

[thorn fjord]

Notters sepsis WA is nice too

[arctic hare]

Hmm, i need to update my luxthos then, its not showing my sepsis garrote

[gusty mirage]

him choosing to PI the augvoker is something that is internally confusing

there's literally 10 better choices

[arctic hare]

Same here, and its not even consistent either

[gusty mirage]

shit PIing the resto druid would be more helpful

[thorn fjord]

PI the aug so it can get them buffs out quicker

Theyre just big braining it

[gusty mirage]

[arctic hare]

Lol, heres the thing though.

Tri doesn’t, seem to understand how to properly give buffs to people.

[gusty mirage]

it's a process

like me on fire mage

not a great process

but it's something alright

if you ever want to feel good about yourself ask me to play my fire mage with you

I'm absolutely worthless at fire mage

it's pretty impressive

[arctic hare]

LOL, i’ve got a fire mage alt that I suck pretty bad at too.

But I can get by pretty well I’d say.

[gusty mirage]

then you'll get that one combust window when you're cranking

and you feel like you're getting the hang of things

and then you do tank dps the next combust window

[arctic hare]

And then, you drop.

[gusty mirage]

and you realize maybe fire mage isn't for you

[arctic hare]

Yep, happened to me in the beginning 🤣

[gusty mirage]

I make it up to people who carry me through 17s on my 420 mage

[arctic hare]

Once I figured out a little bit of how skb worked, it was better.

[gusty mirage]

I come back for their next key on my rogue

and I'm like I'm so sorry

I promise I'm not an npc

[arctic hare]

Where you absolutely obliterate anything. Best feeling in the world.

[gusty mirage]

we were asked to gear up an alt for week 1 splits next tier

and I might just gear a 2nd rogue

[arctic hare]

Oh god

[gusty mirage]

I feel like I'm a liability on anything else

[arctic hare]

LOL

[thorn fjord]

You can always hit me up @gusty mirage

i'd help carry your mage

need any reason to run a key at this point tbh

[gusty mirage]

my week 1 heroic splits

[arctic hare]

idk what it is, but no matter what I main in a season, I ALWAYS go back to rogue.

[gusty mirage]

needless to say I'm not very good at casters

[arctic hare]

For instance, i mained a fucking holy priest this season….

With altspec shadow, and yet, here I am, gearing up my rogue for next season 😂

[gusty mirage]

that's the play

we're gonna be magical 10.2

TRUST

[arctic hare]

You say that….

[gusty mirage]

I believe in the rework

[arctic hare]

I’m willing to believe, for now.

[gusty mirage]

you should too

and I'm cranky 24/7

if I have hope, everyone should

[subtle kiln]

ret. impossible to die

[gusty mirage]

I didn't die on any boss except nelth

I'm just bad at caster

and I'm not learning ret

stinky class

[thorn fjord]

UHDK still a thing

[subtle kiln]

i mean you have the prot down

[gusty mirage]

it is my most geared alt

[thorn fjord]

@gusty mirage Check your dms

[gusty mirage]

but I'd rather just get a 2nd rogue geared

[subtle kiln]

press what lights up. spend holy power

[arctic hare]

I hope they make sin aoe more, shall we say palatable?

[subtle kiln]

just like rogue. haha

[gusty mirage]

oh so it's exactly like prot pally

neat

[subtle kiln]

yup

don’t cap holy power

spend at 4 or 5

press one of 12 defensives

or 4 speed increases

it’s more brain dead than sub in aoe

[arctic hare]

Oh god, I only have an hour before I should be heading out to class

ew.

[arctic hare]

if only we rogues had those.

though, we do have a FUCKING TELEPORT, so. thats better at least

[subtle kiln]

freedom op quite honestly.

worst part of ret is the aura buff is trash to keep uptime on

at pull

[arctic hare]

aura buff?

you mean, like, devo aura?

[subtle kiln]

retribution aura

[arctic hare]

Ahh, don't people have to die?

[subtle kiln]

no

[arctic hare]

(I know absolutely nothing about ret)

[subtle kiln]

take a chunk of dmg. rogue shrouds. tank sits down. lol

[gusty mirage]

they changed it

you just gotta take big damage now

[arctic hare]

oh, hmm.

[gusty mirage]

but yeah it used to be you get wings if someone dies

[arctic hare]

Ahh, the 40%

[subtle kiln]

still get my wings

[arctic hare]

God, retribution aura must be AMAZING with a DK tank

[subtle kiln]

it was meant to be raid utility. atrophic more useful

[arctic hare]

Truth

Love me some damn atrophic

I just wish it was a switch node with crippling instead of numbing.

[subtle kiln]

it’s enjoyable to play. not sure I’d want to main it again.

[arctic hare]

Ret? or assassination ?

[subtle kiln]

ret. like s3, took time away from rogue this season. didn’t enjoy any of the specs

[arctic hare]

Theres just something unique about rogue that makes it so much more enjoyable

[candid dragon]

Tonight is the first time i raid as assassin

Wish me luck

[arctic hare]

oh BOY! good luck!

[candid dragon]

Mythic experiments bout to get rekted

[arctic hare]

hells yeah

[subtle kiln]

yeah it has 3 disjointed dps specs.

[arctic hare]

Very true

oh hey, I'm bored of sin and sub, lemme be a pirate

[subtle kiln]

I miss playing my rogue but I’d not be happy if I was maining it.

[arctic hare]

why not?

[subtle kiln]

not in current state

[arctic hare]

Ahh, yeah

[thorn fjord]

What are you playing now?

War?

[subtle kiln]

it’s not fun, which is subjective ofc.

[thorn fjord]

I should have just played UHDK this tier

kinda annoyed i didnt

[subtle kiln]

ret for everything but zskarn. was uh there

[spice spire]

UHDK players

Disgusting

[thorn fjord]

Its a simple life

[runic hinge]

I’ve tried like 5 alts this season and nothing feels as good to rogue to me.

Except maybe feral. But I don’t wanna play something so similar

With worse tools

[spice spire]

I’ve somewhat tried 3 this season. Did 5 last season

[arctic hare]

Heh, feral.

[thorn fjord]

BDK still on the menu? @spice spire

[spice spire]

When I play ye

Bdk is 440 chilling

[thorn fjord]

nice

[runic hinge]

I mained feral from bc to the end of SL and am now addicted to rogue

[spice spire]

I haven’t logged on outside of raid in almost a month

The end is soon

[thorn fjord]

yeah I can relate bro

[arctic hare]

I mained feral for half of s1 of shadowlands, switched to rogue, and never looked back.

[spice spire]

Feral is good fun

[arctic hare]

Because, OH WAIT, THEY HAVE ENERGY REGEN!?

[runic hinge]

Feral is in a much better spot than it has been in forever and now I don’t play it lol

[arctic hare]

Ofc, this was when I still had no clue about energy management and pooling LMAO

[thorn fjord]

cause it still sucks

[runic hinge]

My feral is like 424 or something. But gearing another character with crit mastery and the same trinkets and bleeds just isn’t that exciting

[subtle kiln]

feral plays nicely in aoe/m+. idk where tuning is

[spice spire]

Decent

Looking at them on rashok/mag they look good

I never found their build paths flexible

Was my one qualm

That and it’s slowness on st

[subtle kiln]

i actually have to see how my zeronhaste assa feels on a dummy

[spice spire]

Probably not that bad

[gusty mirage]

my one qualm is you won't love me

[spice spire]

Bro?

That’s all I do?

[subtle kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/snl-saturday-night-live-roxbury-jim-carrey-chris-kattan-gif-16659338

[proven jasper]

i sure hope they revive kb in 10.2

miss him

[wary ice]

Kingsbane

[proven jasper]

Why couldn’t we just have dtb and kingsbane

[balmy condor]

Because that shits difficult to tune

[proven jasper]

Yeah but tell me it wouldn’t feel great to play

I just miss my mans

[royal lantern]

how would KB with DtB play any different

[balmy condor]

Delusions in my head say it’s more fun

[grand trail]

no more extra buttons allowed

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-gif-26307682

[balmy condor]

Nerf dtb

[subtle kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/hear-the-angels-voices-matthew-morrison-rockefeller-christmas-singing-hear-them-gif-19417449

[proven jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/thoughts-oops-delusional-pain-gif-21305874

[cerulean nest]

anyone else feel juiced when nelth trinket procs and you have a ghostly squid giving you a hug?

[brave zenith]

hey does anyone know if u should be using hissing runes or sharpening stones in keys im soft crit capped

[clever sapphire]

The higher the number, the more fun im having duh

Thats why i play sbs

So when i play an actual build i have more fun

[balmy condor]

Sharpening stones usually the worst option available

Play legit any rune

[clever sapphire]

Imma play vantus rune

[austere fulcrum]

it is sad that FoK doesnt work with it tho

[balmy condor]

What

[austere fulcrum]

when u hit FoK ghostly squid doesnt make the spin

[balmy condor]

Oh

[cerulean nest]

yeah made me wanna uninstall

[austere fulcrum]

😄 ikr !!

[earnest remnant]

@blazing jewel where you at?

[marble hemlock]

first he takes our parses, soon he'll steal our girls

[vestal wren]

enjoying sin so far?

[blazing jewel]

[earnest remnant]

only guy above me is pi abuser

[earnest remnant]

its okay

[blazing jewel]

2:34 kill timer

How tf are you guys 550k raid dps higher

[spice spire]

No shot he changed it

[blazing jewel]

Just for you bbgirl

[earnest remnant]

new assault scana

took overall rank 1 this time

[clever sapphire]

#assassination-faq message

[blazing jewel]

What kill time are you thinking on sark

[narrow pelican]

I fucked my parse on nelth bc I DMed before lust came out

[quick idol]

It’s still weird that assass’ icone is a spell we don’t have

[vestal wren]

NICUU

[marble hemlock]

and subs icon is a spell all 3 specs have

[royal lantern]

what fight

[earnest remnant]

kazzara

[royal lantern]

im above scana on zskarn

[blazing jewel]

Parsing on zskarn is impossible

[past forum]

what do you choose to make details not cut current segment when you're fighting a dummy and vanish?

[earnest remnant]

welp thats two rank 2s

so far

[blazing jewel]

Wiping on rashok for your parse

[earnest remnant]

i was higher on that one

[royal lantern]

idk

its like parsing all bosses

just be lucky with the 1000 procs

[blazing jewel]

Or a pb proc when a dk grips adds

For a free 500k damage

[royal lantern]

we didnt even had a DK

[spice surge]

Dymanic overall

[royal lantern]

oh lol im #14 on kazzara

[grim tangle]

only beat my prebuff rashok parse by 2k with a better kill time, I'm not impressed.

[rare jackal]

which abilities dont consume the sepsis stealth use charge?

envenom doesnt right?

[frozen iris]

Anyone here who uses Cevs Plater profile?

[night delta]

Abilities that don't have stealth benefits don't consume the sepsis buff

[rare jackal]

does mutilate consume it?

[night delta]

Nope, only garrote, ambush, cheap shot I think

Basically abilities that need stealth or have a specific benefit from it

[balmy condor]

Ye

[night delta]

But beware, the buff is a bit short-lived, it runs out if you sit on it

[balmy condor]

It’s basically anything requiring stealth, with garrote additionally

[past forum]

blindside procs dont consume sepsis, right?

[balmy condor]

Correct

[past forum]

oh wtf, dm is on gcd?

[rare jackal]

so

im pretty sure mutilate consumed sepsis

oh nvm im stupid

[frozen iris]

In a m+ scenario. When improved garrote hits pandemic do we start refreshing early or do we wait for it to drop then slowly reapply ?

[gaunt moat]

Is there a way to run a sim comparing with and without windfury?

[balmy condor]

There like override.windfury or some shit

But it’s easier to just run 2 sims tbh

I don’t know the line

[balmy condor]

You always let improved garrotes tick to the end

[frozen iris]

I assumed but was just making sure in a m+ it wouldn't be any different.

[earnest remnant]

5:52 @blazing jewel not clean tho

[viral spire]

very quick question

does sepsis proc imp garrote?

nvm

it does proc it

should have read the pins

[balmy condor]

Sepsis would be shit if it didn’t

[gaunt moat]

I checked and it's actually "override.windfury_totem=0"
but i'm not sure how to run two sims together one enabled and one not

(just trying to learn, i know i can do it seperatly)

[balmy condor]

It’s a sim-wide setting so you would have to do it via profileset in advanced

So profileset.”windfury”+=override.windfury_totem=1

Would make a new profileset with windfury on

[gaunt moat]

So in advacned, I copy my simc addon output
then add that line at the end?

(just with zero)

[balmy condor]

Ye

[tired night]

My favorite part about swapping is I don't need to pad to parse and I don't have to cry about beacon not critting

[gaunt moat]

cool. thanks, that worked, I never knew about profilesets

Can get a result like that

[balmy condor]

they’re like copies but they don’t inherit settings

Well, they do, but they’re not sim-wide

[gaunt moat]

I disabled the windfury for the default settings, then enabled it for the profleset like you've shown

[balmy condor]

Copies wouldn’t work for this situation cause it would fall back onto the same windfury setting across the whole sim

Issue with profileset is the full html is actually worthless

So there’s that

[keen spruce]

@gaunt moat did u kill sarky

[gaunt moat]

We did
And it was at the last pull of the night. Would be devestating if we wouldn't.
Kinda sucks it was after nerfs, it really takes away from the accomplishment

[keen spruce]

[gaunt moat]

so it just felt more like relief

[gilded oasis]

are you in my guild??

sounds like us

[quiet oar]

Did you kill it

[keen spruce]

idc about the nerfs i just want it dead lol

we pulled with 19 people for 2 hours last sunday

[gilded oasis]

we had the longest kill time and 0% execution. Unfortunately someone took longer about 20 mins later

[keen spruce]

got to like 48% tho

we'll see how this weekend goes

[gaunt moat]

we had like 300 wipes

[gilded oasis]

yeah we had 341 smile

[gaunt moat]

So, good tech i learned for transition:
when you need get stacks by going on the overlap tog et down.
don't run forward like a chicken, just stand.

[keen spruce]

can't do that when 5 people run in early

and leave death puddles right in front of the raid

[gilded oasis]

D:

[gaunt moat]

there's quite a bit of grace period

[keen spruce]

we're still workin out the kinks on the transition

lots of people don't know wth is goin on

[gilded oasis]

it comes with time

people also have to just chill and not jump the gun or people need to adjust and kinda go to the side not where the pack was.

mostly just chillax. we still had people going early towards the end

[static glacier]

We had most success walking forward into overlap and stutter stepping while doing it to group the holes

Miraculously we killed it in about 205 pulls

[gilded oasis]

ya but what hes saying is some people are going first and then dropping in front of the whole group. so then you just kinda have to swerve and keep going. theres a small grace period before the fall

[spice spire]

Kill is a kill always a good thing to be thankful for

[gilded oasis]

oh I didnt show you quake

[gaunt moat]

Don't get me started on how mythic raiders can't follow a simple instruction of "move 2 steps forward when timer runs out"

[gilded oasis]

Bro.. we had RL saying "take durress left" for 10 SECONDS before the person with durress did it... ???

[static glacier]

Hardest thing I’d say is teaching people to judge how high their stacks are relative to group; less = go slightly early, more = go slightly late

[silk bane]

can we talk an little bit on thsi please? isnt the damage entirely predictable though?

[spice spire]

[gilded oasis]

eveyrone has DMs off

[static glacier]

That and holding dps end of p2 to kill big add and not phasing boss

[balmy condor]

Yeah predictable sure but they synergize so powerfully together that you would have to play both all the time

[gaunt moat]

This is omega overthinking it.
it really doesn't matter that much. you just goota go together on overlap, everyone goes down in like 1.5 seconds, and you get grace period.

[earnest remnant]

ive never been more confused in my life, playing assa for the first time on Echo of Neltharion, while also lusting p1

[static glacier]

I mean you litterally have nothing else to think about then, no enemies to hit

[spice spire]

I got a lot of sketch dms I’m sorry

[static glacier]

Might aswell get it perfect

[gilded oasis]

oh Im sure, its ok!

[spice surge]

P1 lust sounds spicy

[gaunt moat]

But it's not somthing that you have to activly worry about.

as long as people run together and not like 2 seconds early

[static glacier]

All ima say is that we had 1-2 wipes with some 6 stack Andy blowing a hole and killing some of the slower movers

He needed to go in like 1-2 secs late

[earnest remnant]

was honestly fine

[gaunt moat]

we had a wipe yesterday that almost mentally broke us

[earnest remnant]

i just had no idea where to put my cds

cuz boss went immune just as 2nd add came up xD

[royal lantern]

just slam

no think, just Press buttons and be happy

[gaunt moat]

boss at 6%. everyone are alive.
We use gate to avoid huge circle.
BOOM EVERYONE DIE.
why? because mage placed hole right where the gate goes through.

[gilded oasis]

LOL

[earnest remnant]

a little boss dmg crank on assa

[keen spruce]

[shrewd night]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/543795442912067589/1144343142930321449/image.png

[gilded oasis]

sweet embrace of nothingness

take me home

[shrewd night]

To the place

[grand trail]

stealthi stealing r1 agian

[strange python]

To the parse, where I beloooong

[earnest remnant]

benched until magmorax

[gaunt moat]

forget about his dps.
5:52 kill?

[earnest remnant]

sitting experiments + zskarn

5:52 is not even our fastest

[gaunt moat]

how

[earnest remnant]

our Echo today xD

our fastest Sark is 1 sec faster

from a few weeks ago

and i MEGA fucked my assa cds in p2

like full monkey

[gaunt moat]

our sark kill was 7:25
how do you shave off 1:30 from it X_X

[earnest remnant]

we dont get 3 adds in p2

we only get 2

we 3 heal

[gaunt moat]

ahhh

insane

[earnest remnant]

thats our kill timers

[silk bane]

that is true, but thats a different problem than not being able to tune it. I feel like this argument of something being mandatory is also not very viable because basically almost all builds became a 'this is mandatory' situation anyways

[drifting cloud]

how the fuck did you kill echo in 5:18

[earnest remnant]

lusted p1

[spice spire]

Do dam

[gilded oasis]

clearly slam dammo

[spice spire]

That’s also been colour’s MO for like ever now

Speed running bosses

[drifting cloud]

yes im aware alot of our kills arent that much slower that echo number is still insane :d

[clever sapphire]

sub rogue logs in my assa channel smh

this shits cursed

sub channel has aug logs

[earnest remnant]

happy?

[clever sapphire]

assa has sub

outlaw is dead

[clever sapphire]

much better

[gaunt moat]

he didn't even kill half the bosses, what a chump.

[clever sapphire]

atleast he killed them

[balmy condor]

How is that a different problem? You would be auto-forced into 10 points in the last section, with it opening up at 20/30

If you can’t see how that’s a problem then idk man

[silk bane]

nono I can see how that is a problem

specially with the tree in its current form

but for example, take sub tree, more than 20/30 are always taken and fixed

[balmy condor]

Okay

[silk bane]

just that it is a common thing with all trees

[balmy condor]

Yes and that’s not something we should strive for

Trees are limited a lot of the time

But the solution to that shouldn’t be “lmao fuck it just force one tree forever”

Can it be done to have both kb and dtb? Obviously yes

There’s plenty of ways to do it

But none of them are particularly easy

That’s the whole point

If you do it lazily, you run into the issue of them being taken together forever, or not being taken at all

And both of those situations run into incredibly locked trees

Which is the opposite goal we’re trying to achieve

Any solution for dtb and kb has to hinge on how do you make kb not explode into a billion damage. You can do that by adding arbitrary limits like stack limits on kingsbane, or adding an internal cooldown to the stacking which would kill the interaction entirely, but both of those kind of fucking suck don’t they

Would it work, yes

[silk bane]

yes that makes sense. my thuoght process was that with the reowork coming up, would it make sense to basically have KB as a choice node with another node (that would for example drastically improve your bleed damage). and make it a central point similar to DM so that it can be easily achieved

[balmy condor]

But they’re not good solutions

[silk bane]

the idea is that, in pure single target situations, u would take kb, and in multi target ones or where u want a flatter damage profile u take heavy b leed damage

[balmy condor]

Kb is not moving up higher in the tree

[silk bane]

it provides an option for different fights for example cleave vs single target. as well as different fight times. if the tiemrs or fight profiles

[balmy condor]

Simply not an option

[silk bane]

do u know why not?

[balmy condor]

Because that’s not how the trees are designed

[silk bane]

i feel like it seems like something everyone kidna loves, why not make it a more central theme of the trees

[balmy condor]

You already have Deathmark being the central cooldown point

Adding kb that high would turn it into an exsang situation where it’s overpowering the other options in that area

You’re inherently arguing against yourself

[earnest remnant]

we winged 2 heal Magmorax

and my healers let me die

im upside down

[grand trail]

is there some build variance with assa (as like with sub) or the talents are set to stone currently?

[royal lantern]

set in stone tbh

[balmy condor]

Depends on what’s acceptable as a variance

[earnest remnant]

atleast it was a 4:13 kill timer

[silk bane]

yes it would! and thats kinda the idae. like DM +1 as the core of the spec. where that +1 is a choice between KB/Bleed.

[grand trail]

i was asking if need to check talents in logs or everyone playing the same:)

[proven jasper]

Idk for me atleast it feels like something is missing during dm and kb fills that void

[balmy condor]

Everyone’s playing the same

[earnest remnant]

you pretty much just play the same shit on every boss

atleast i did today

[balmy condor]

Okay but why are you solving that issue at the top of the tree

If you had a choice between bleed and poison, that’s basically what we have now with dtb or ic

But instead of taking both, you would limit it to 1

Which would just be the old tree

[silk bane]

thats fair, my reason was that (atleast to me) it seems more interesting to start specializaing in the task youre tying to do from the middle to the bottom of the tree. rather than just changing a capstone and all the nodes above it. so like if there was more conenction from the middle which allowed you to micro manage how much aoe vs how much st or how much cleave you want it would further lead to the trees being less 'pick this and do this everytime'

thats why I wanted a powerful node in the middle, that starts the change. and then trickles down, and you can pick and choose going down.

[grand trail]

if you garrote fire and than step garrote shadow boss on chambers, do you get both debuffs? (sorry for my random questions between your talent discussion)

[proven jasper]

pretty sure you get either debuff no matter what once ur in range

[royal lantern]

if you dont cloak yes

[grand trail]

im suppose to cloak it or i just clear with other guys

[royal lantern]

+like

[grand trail]

i see people doing it in logs but rather double check

[royal lantern]

its no gain lol

[earnest remnant]

yeah we did some unholy Amalgamation strat today

i tried to double dot

it did not seem worth it

when we phase in like 23sec

[blazing jewel]

Id check the log because a lot of people will pull the bosses together for 10s then split them

[proven jasper]

Literally unless ur ranged like doubt its worth trying that either way

That too

Some ppl pull them together

[grand trail]

its impyr r1 will check

yeah tjhey keep them stacked 😄

[balmy condor]

You can still build that specialization from the top using weaker, synergistic nodes like for example improved poisons for kingsbane stacks, or bloody mess versus fatal concoction, shrouded or dashing, etc. those then lead to the big points at the bottom, where you would find the active button or the cooldown or whatever big thing like kb/dtb/ic/etc

[silk bane]

thats true, I guess maybe then it was more of a possible connections in the middle rather than this kb thingy being in the middle

[silk bane]

thanks for actually going over this with me btw. I appreciate it. I dont always shit post, sometimes Im actually trying to think a bit more critically about what could improve the spec or make it more interesting

[balmy condor]

I think the point gates having to change is going to shuffle things quite a ways

[balmy condor]

I’m always down for good discussion :P

[silk bane]

eyoo calling mah cooked takes good? im blushing

[bronze pike]

You wanna know who else has good cooked takes

https://tenor.com/view/muscle-man-eating-gif-26161045

[thorny pond]

I can open my fridge and see what shit falls out

[spice spire]

Good and cooked aren’t compatible

[gilded oasis]

what if its about cookies??

[silk bane]

this gonna be me and u when sarky boi is deadge

https://tenor.com/view/snl-saturday-night-live-roxbury-jim-carrey-chris-kattan-gif-16659338

[gilded oasis]

we killed!

get in the car!

[silk bane]

AAAA gz dude! did u get the daggers? :

[gilded oasis]

noo 😦 cloak dropped but didnt win that. nothin else good

hopefully I get vaulted some tho

looking forward to reclear on Tues

[silk bane]

yesss!! imagine the reclear + the reclear vault. oh dude gonna be so good!

[gilded oasis]

look how good we were

Bear solod the last like 20 seconds

[silk bane]

soon ill get in the car and we all go party in whispyrs house. ill bring poutine and vodka

[silk bane]

gamers. boss is dead thats what matters! reclear parses come later!

[bronze pike]

[earnest remnant]

we are the 2 sides of the speed rankings

ying and yang

[gilded oasis]

LOL

bigly true though

Blizz gave extra enrage time?? Ty we use that

[spice spire]

Dough is better pal get woke

[gilded oasis]

actually don't disagree. Half my cookies I make I just eat raw

raw brownie batter is delicious too

[royal lantern]

your guild can maybe be #1, but he is #0

[runic hinge]

Don’t we all

[spice spire]

I ain’t ever had the purple drank in my life

[fossil girder]

is it fine to macro bomb dispenser to mutilate? or should i add some abilities?

[gilded oasis]

no

make a trinket keybind slam that

I GUESS its ok if you have no other 2nd on use but bad habbit to start

[cerulean nest]

I want only passive trinkets next tier

[royal lantern]

if you have no other use trinkets, sure

[cerulean nest]

just stop with the actives

[runic hinge]

Wish they would stop with the cast time actives

[spice spire]

Cast trinkets

[fossil girder]

I do not, thanks, got baited into an old guild too start raiding again, and getting fed from hc

[proven jasper]

Puzzle box

[gilded oasis]

at least some of them you could move and cast

[royal lantern]

2sec channel trinkets

[grand trail]

casting stats feel like shit but casting beacon crit is pog

[bronze pike]

i miss grieftoirch

better than this beacon shit

[runic hinge]

Oh your beacon crits? Haven’t seen mine do that

[gilded oasis]

early sark pulls I put mine on

[bronze pike]

ya ive used torch on mythic first boss

but still

[misty kernel]

NO PRIEST POG

[quiet oar]

You are a mad man for doing it as sin

Ngl

[gilded oasis]

pog

livin the dream

[toxic night]

damn assa in a 29 xd

[gilded oasis]

mad lad

[misty kernel]

world 9th bro

war-rogue-dk-pally-aug no priest

[quiet oar]

Fuck priests

Fr

[misty kernel]

i swear am giga happy

that can time a rly good key as assa

that rquires a priest

[quiet oar]

So the changes were good

[misty kernel]

ya decent tbh

coz we can survive

[quiet oar]

They mad on reset

[misty kernel]

without

being exodia

we never lacked timers

we were dying

[quiet oar]

Just deadge

[misty kernel]

freehold

bite + AOE

dead

does ranage get this ?

no OFC

[quiet oar]

BH

[misty kernel]

ya BH

bites

bites

bites

shots

eta gg

[quiet oar]

Where you get 75% more dmg

Than any range

[misty kernel]

95%

not 75%

[quiet oar]

Just for being melee

And you have to pay attention for whirlwinds and fixates

And fixating whirlwinds

Melee fun

This season

[mighty pine]

legend

[misty kernel]

Imposters KEKW

[river ember]

@misty kernel what build were you using for that key?

[subtle tundra]

the only build

[royal lantern]

the forbidden kingsbane m+ build

[runic hinge]

I wish

[royal lantern]

thats why its forbidden

[gilded oasis]

[royal lantern]

you know

the normal aoe build

[balmy condor]

well zero takes flying daggers over 2/2 ip for the fok range

and his class tree is left heavy for the defensives

but yeh

same shit

different day

[royal lantern]

ofc, its 0:15

different day

[runic hinge]

Interesting no gouge

[balmy condor]

gouge is pretty niche I think

[cerulean nest]

i dont press gouge on any spec, @ me

[runic hinge]

That’s fair. I don’t use it all the time but I do try

[balmy condor]

I think for like shitter keys where people don't kick, gouge is huge

but if you got everyone playing well

then it's kinda whatever

all the important stuff gets stopped

[true blade]

doesn't seem like there are many single target stops required this season

[spice spire]

HOI would like a word

[gilded oasis]

is that word 'cookies'?

[spice spire]

[gilded oasis]

[blazing jewel]

cook this

[gilded oasis]

darn it ate my spaces

[autumn peak]

I see there's a problem with Irideus sim so what do you think better ? (patchwerk 5 min 1 boss)

[blazing jewel]

fragment is bad

[autumn peak]

idk why raidbots sim that high

[blazing jewel]

mutilate drops its stack x2

[autumn peak]

oh i see

[blazing jewel]

you would always play essence if those are your options

[autumn peak]

ok ty

[spice spire]

Nah that things been cooked

[subtle kiln]

tofu?

[royal lantern]

thats deeper lore

[spice spire]

That’s cursed lore

I have a lot of cursed lore

[blazing jewel]

tofu lore

[spice spire]

[royal lantern]

yeha, quake is right

fuck tofu

[gray crest]

what a coincidence, that was my nickname in high school

[earnest remnant]

after looking at logs ive come to the conclusion that Assa is not the play the way we do Echo of Neltharion

[final star]

assa is decent enough since buffs though tbf

[earnest remnant]

not the way we do it

[final star]

kill time isn't favourable either for u I spose

[earnest remnant]

5:13

[final star]

yeah bit stinky holy

[earnest remnant]

3 dms

quite cheeks tbh

and boss goes immune on 2nd add

so

[blazing jewel]

dm timing on that boss is kinda cheeks

[earnest remnant]

and boss dies at 2nd portals in p3

so no pb pad

[subtle tundra]

when is ptrrrrrrrrrr

drop

im bout to be annoyed

[royal lantern]

ah yes, now

because you are not annoyed all the time?

[subtle kiln]

it’s encrypted vendor build now. soonTM

[candid dragon]

do we really need haste as sin?

[runic hinge]

Not really but eventually the sim told me to recraft and regem for more

[subtle kiln]

no. just sim whatever you have and equip the best stuff.

[candid dragon]

well i have 0%

cant do it now

[subtle kiln]

same

[candid dragon]

becuase im in raid

wondering if i should rune it on my weapons

[subtle kiln]

guess you’re not prepared for raid.

[candid dragon]

or just use buzzing runes

[subtle kiln]

you can sim that

[subtle tundra]

In my defense, you're right

Haven't been happy with the game in a while

[vapid sierra]

about to play sin at brack

somethnihg tells me this isnt gonna go good

[brave zenith]

does anyone have an up to date ass build for mplus i want to make sure im using current stuff

[subtle tundra]

#assassination-faq

[long pecan]

Hello. What is off the gcd for assa rogues?

[misty kernel]

tried same build in 28 Halls we had 4 Mins left i would never play assa on tyra tho coz of ST

[runic hinge]

This that was just in reference to the single target stops

[misty kernel]

what my grp needed is mass silence other stops we have them done