#assassination

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royal lantern
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why is it a thing

gusty mirage
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smh

void mesa
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Im kinda sad I missed council cuz AP conceptually sounds fine but only good on dumb contexts

vapid sierra
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i played outlaw on council like a sane person

balmy condor
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AP is a banger talent

royal lantern
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the fight where i said "yeha bench me" after 3 kills?

gusty mirage
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you played outlaw last tier

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and you called yourself sane

balmy condor
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Wish it were good

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Love AP

vapid sierra
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outlaw on council was life

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funnest thing ever

royal lantern
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thats it

void mesa
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Nah

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I played sub

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šŸ™ƒ

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tornado sec tech dumb shit idk

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was quite a scrub back in s1 tho

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now im just bad but I know im bad

gusty mirage
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I'm still a scrub

balmy condor
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I canā€™t wait for 10.2 streams

void mesa
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I just pretend to be decent once in a while cuz I top my group meters on H

royal lantern
balmy condor
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ā€œWhy do thisā€
Cause itā€™s better
ā€œNo actually kekdnelaldbriwoā€

gusty mirage
vapid sierra
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break

gusty mirage
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too late

vapid sierra
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let the chat brun and riot

gusty mirage
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I already saw you typed brake

balmy condor
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Canā€™t let the chat burn

void mesa
balmy condor
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Wowhead pays me money

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I donā€™t wanna get fired

gusty mirage
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yeah to write guides

void mesa
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Do they pay you to keep the discord up?

gusty mirage
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not answer questions on stream

royal lantern
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its wowhead, just make some shit up

balmy condor
gusty mirage
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which I should do

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because it makes you mad

vapid sierra
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im mid valorant game

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typing quickl betyween rounds is hard

balmy condor
royal lantern
void mesa
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welldamn

gusty mirage
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the man''s been unhinged since augvoker dropped

void mesa
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what have you done tryan

royal lantern
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was more about the 2000wowhead clickbait posts, not about your guides

vapid sierra
rocky ruin
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garrote cd remove

gusty mirage
vapid sierra
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the guides arent upated enoiugh

gusty mirage
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that's like hating an entire restaurant because you hate part of their menu

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they're not?

tulip shore
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What if envenom did extra damage after rupture

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Money

void mesa
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Mage Wowhead has been fine?

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At least Frost, thats the only one I actually use

vapid sierra
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bnecauise the discord is the best thing int he world

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but the mage one

gusty mirage
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weird to make a blanket statement then

vapid sierra
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should of been more precise

frozen iris
vapid sierra
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the mage wowhead when i tried learning it wasnt up to date and it was mid tier

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and there was no faq like the ropgue one in the discord

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so i had to ask

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and then they redirected me to magehub

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but that still had missing things irrc

gusty mirage
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which mage spec

vapid sierra
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fire irrc

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and frost

gusty mirage
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weird

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seems updated to me

vapid sierra
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before

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like last tier

gusty mirage
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lmao

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nothing changed

balmy condor
gusty mirage
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I'll see it wasn't updated at all in 10.0-10.0.7?

vapid sierra
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im not saying it wasnt updated

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but im saying it had like a simplified rotation

gusty mirage
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yes you were

vapid sierra
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like it didnt have everything

silk bane
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me watching oxi and Whipsyr double team Vex with mah popcorn over here like

gusty mirage
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cause like I can check the changelogs for the wow guides too if you'd like

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and I'm petty enough to do that

silk bane
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do it oxi

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destroy him

vapid sierra
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i could be remembering wrong

vapid sierra
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i do make alot of stupid claims

gusty mirage
vapid sierra
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well then i am wrong

silk bane
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im just here for this shit posting until 10.2 tbh. just vibing

vapid sierra
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the sad part is half the time im not shit posting

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half the time im not thinking things thru starege

gusty mirage
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like if you're trying to pick something up and be in the top 1% of that spec

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wowhead guides aren't intended to be that

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I think wowhead guides get a lot of undeserved shit

vapid sierra
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i think it might of been because one of my friends was telling me about double lust and prio lists during it and all that stuff

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and when i went it wasnt there

silk bane
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wowhead guides are perfect for what theyre trying to do

gusty mirage
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yep

vapid sierra
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degen was super helpful in the mage discord tho, they're really chill

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they answered it

gusty mirage
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a solid baseline for general understanding with specifics if you wish to find them, but it's not gonna prep you to rank 1 parse on a spec

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there's only so much that can be done with a guide

vapid sierra
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fair enough

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and fire is one of those specs with like alot of not secret but very small min maxes

gusty mirage
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also as someone who got introduced to the backend for wowhead

burnt latch
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Getting rank 1s is usually about a lot more than knowing your rotation

gusty mirage
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it's absolute trash to use

vapid sierra
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and alot of player input with pooling

gusty mirage
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and I can't imagine writing a guide with the rotation togglers that the wow guides have

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I'd lose my fucking mind

vapid sierra
vapid sierra
burnt latch
frozen iris
vestal wren
balmy condor
vestal wren
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so they are at elast somewhat better to use

gusty mirage
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d4 team stole me

balmy condor
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I donā€™t either

gusty mirage
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you guys have fun tho

balmy condor
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Guess theyā€™re not getting updated then

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Cause Iā€™d rather kill myself

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Those things made me suicidal

gusty mirage
vapid sierra
gusty mirage
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so you like copy and paste the guide into a new guide

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and then you suddenly have 2

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it's pretty cool

burnt latch
vestal wren
royal lantern
vestal wren
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you should be happy you are not on bad hardware

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if i keep a bigger wowhead page open, it makes my browser lag

gusty mirage
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me too dw

vestal wren
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(in the editor)

gusty mirage
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and I have good hardware

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so I make sure I edit everything in sublime first

balmy condor
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Thatā€™s not hardware Lmao

vestal wren
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i mean i need to assume its hardware

gusty mirage
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the backend is actually so bad

vestal wren
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because i run on my dual core laptop

balmy condor
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Itā€™s just bad

frozen iris
gusty mirage
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knowing when to be greedy with globals, etc

vapid sierra
gusty mirage
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and a weee bit of luck

vapid sierra
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i thoughht we were talking about 100 parces

gusty mirage
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@burnt latch am I getting a sark dagger in my vault

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cause 4 kills and I've seen 2 beacons, 3 cloaks, and 0 daggers

royal lantern
gusty mirage
frozen iris
burnt latch
vapid sierra
burnt latch
gusty mirage
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yea knowing when you can get away with greeding a global or two is big

balmy condor
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Parsing 100 is a r1

burnt latch
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3 more weeks

gusty mirage
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šŸ˜¦

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for why don herbo

vapid sierra
burnt latch
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Thsts why i got mine straight away

gusty mirage
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but you're hot

burnt latch
vapid sierra
frozen iris
balmy condor
burnt latch
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I finished my rogue

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0 upgrades left

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Gearing this patch is wild

gusty mirage
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I need echo trinket sark dagger and dagger from megadungo

burnt latch
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My like 6th? Week of farm ish

gusty mirage
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gotta be more, no?

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unless you also took a break after killing sark

burnt latch
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I took a break after sark like 3 weeks

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Swapped guilds and what not

gusty mirage
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okay yeah that makes more sense

vapid sierra
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but you also need to be greedy

gusty mirage
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cause I'm on week 6ish of farm, and we took 2 weeks off

vapid sierra
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like really greedy

gusty mirage
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and I'm p sure you killed sark like 3 weeks before me

vapid sierra
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and thats why knowing the mehcanics is important

burnt latch
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Lets see i think i killed sark first farm week back

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Logs will know

gusty mirage
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yeah we didn't kill even kill echo our 2nd reclear pepela

keen spruce
gusty mirage
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first two weeks after the break were ROUGH

burnt latch
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Realised i havent been on sark last few weeks so we use forgotten exp instead

IMG_1223.png
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8 weeks of farm

gusty mirage
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god you're so hot

burnt latch
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Still pretty mad to be fully decked out in 8 weeks

vapid sierra
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oxi no simping before marriage

gusty mirage
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go play valorant

frozen iris
gusty mirage
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with your smelly ass

vapid sierra
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i told you this morning its to rid the women

gusty mirage
vapid sierra
keen spruce
burnt latch
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I hated, but also loved sanctum when it felt like it took half a year to get everything i wanted

gusty mirage
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I hope you never kill echo

keen spruce
gusty mirage
keen spruce
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surely it dies today

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i don't even know if we have 20 people kekDeadinside

gusty mirage
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best I can offer is my 444 prot pally

burnt latch
vestal wren
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@gusty mirage i like how i infected everyone to use sublime ^^

gusty mirage
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that felt good until I stopped critting it

vapid sierra
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i hope bomb dispenser drops when we kill zskarn

gusty mirage
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so I gave in an redownloaded sublime

balmy condor
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Thatā€™s what happened to me too

vestal wren
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ā¤ļø now i just need to read into the plugin api

vapid sierra
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what for?

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notepad++?

gusty mirage
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I love not having to save in sublime tbh

vapid sierra
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i wanna say apl stuff

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but idk

gusty mirage
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it just auto saves it until I close the tab

vestal wren
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apl stuff, wowhead guides, coding

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ye sublime is great

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most ppl i know switched to vscode tho

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i just insist on using it ^^

gusty mirage
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I don't do any coding besides occasional edits to like wordpress plugins and stuff

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so I'm happy with sublime

vestal wren
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you should try the tabnine plugin

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it ads a quie good autocomplete functionality

gusty mirage
royal lantern
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tech words

balmy condor
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@gusty mirage you should try the dn plugin

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It adds quite good dn to your mouf

gusty mirage
royal lantern
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šŸ„œ poggers

vestal wren
balmy condor
vestal wren
balmy condor
silk bane
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sure whipsyr.

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sure....

brazen zodiac
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Absolutely Whispyr

keen spruce
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nelth deadge HYPERS

void mesa
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Duck is doing it peepohappy

balmy condor
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Anything higher than 30% and Iā€™m banning you on the spot

keen spruce
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i didn't proc taht well i don't think

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only 27.8%

void mesa
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Sophic > 30% is a bannable offense?? Hidegers

keen spruce
balmy condor
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Go fuck yourself holy shit

limber lion
balmy condor
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Shmeeps actually cheating

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Impossible for the man to have a normal sophic proc

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Just canā€™t be done

void mesa
balmy condor
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Dudes hacking

void mesa
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Wtf

balmy condor
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No other explanation

void mesa
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I dont even know the mean/average, but 45% just sounds gross... and dreamlike

balmy condor
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Average is around 18% I think

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Something like that

void mesa
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Oof

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But do Shmeeps procs line with DM???

balmy condor
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Of course

keen spruce
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i didn't get one during lust and execute

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so unlucky

balmy condor
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At 40% it would be hard not to

keen spruce
balmy condor
keen spruce
balmy condor
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You donā€™t get to complain about shit

keen spruce
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but all of the important bits

burnt latch
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My proudest moment

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void mesa
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Can any of you two huhhh teach me??

burnt latch
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Just proc

balmy condor
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Yeah just proc

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Just proc your nelth and your sophic

void mesa
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That sounds like me explaining how to survive on rogue

Just cloak

balmy condor
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Make sure itā€™s during cooldowns

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And then gg

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You parsed

drifting cloud
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hes suffering on prog dont bully him whispyr

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let the man proc

balmy condor
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Iā€™m gonna bully the fuck out of him

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He deserves the suffering

void mesa
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The parsing method
Crit on beacon
Proc on cds

balmy condor
pure moth
balmy condor
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Yeh 30% is a good time

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Iā€™d be happy with 30%

pure moth
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I generally hover 20 to 30

burnt latch
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This was also decent

IMG_1226.png
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Could be better tbh

keen spruce
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i don't wanna post my other screenshots

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cuz whispyr will ban me

gusty mirage
frozen iris
earnest remnant
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Mans might proc sophic. But legends has it, that even that isnt enough for him to kill neltharion

balmy condor
earnest remnant
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Doesent count for me, been traveling all day

blazing jewel
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Very late to respond but I ignored first besides garrote rupture and then focused on big adds the rest of the time. I donā€™t normally think I wolf have to do that but our comp for that night was very mid at killing those if I remember right

balmy condor
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having to focus the adds as sin

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I just gar/rup the first one

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and then envenom funneled 2/3 for like 10 pulls

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checked the damage on them, was well below the average

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and then swapped to boss for the rest of prog

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always hit the big ones with gar/rup though

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energy

blazing jewel
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Not horrible damage to them for ignoring first

IMG_2565.png
gaunt moat
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Sark day 7 report:
Will to live is dwindling.
17% best attempt.

signal badger
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Ur close yā€™all got it ā¤ļø

frozen iris
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I need to get on that mythic raiding train

keen spruce
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cuz you were cursing us

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p1 sark not that bad tho

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except that i haven't made it through without my cheat proccing OMEGAKEKW

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i mean we had p1 tank deaths today

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that shit gonna happen all the way to the end lol

gusty mirage
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wild to think we still have 2-3 months more of 10.1

burnt latch
gusty mirage
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have cat

burnt latch
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Thank you, already feel better

gusty mirage
burnt latch
gaunt moat
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@keen spruce nelth dead??
šŸŽ‰ šŸ„³ šŸ‘Æ

keen spruce
gaunt moat
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i guess that speech helped

winged veldt
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Fuck yea grats mang!

keen spruce
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I gave our boomkin the class trinket

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and have immediate regret

gusty mirage
tall atlas
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I also have cat

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And she sure here while I do keys obesely

thin portal
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ok guys and gals, its official. I finally chose my race after almost a year lol.

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Undead.

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I was happy with Orc but something still didnt feel right. I tried Blood elf, but I felt like a loser. I tried troll but can't stand the hunching. I tried Tauren but they feel fat, like pandas.

NOW I AM UNDEAD, i dont feel any regrets so far.

vapid sierra
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goblin

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stealth animation

thin portal
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goblin stealth animation is clever yes. It wasnt for me though haha

balmy condor
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monumental news

thin portal
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Whispyr i know you remember me talking about it last year too lol

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you tried to convert to be a furry.

balmy condor
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I'm gonna be honest

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I have no clue who you are

thin portal
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hahaha

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its cool

balmy condor
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lot of people to keep track of

thin portal
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I know you are the assassination celebrity.

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no worries

balmy condor
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all 25 of the assassination players

thin portal
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well u kno what i mean

balmy condor
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but I'm glad you found a race you enjoy

thin portal
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im testing the new assassin for DF

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hows AOE compared to Outlaw now? seems like I need to learn rotation but outlaw might be better still.

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single target seems to be top with assassin

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i saw some boss kill videos and sin is on top in single target.

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I can almost play regularly again.

balmy condor
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10.2 fixes it

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probably

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hopefully

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maybe

thin portal
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i c

drifting cloud
vapid sierra
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zskarn

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whats the average kill timer?

sweet dawn
vapid sierra
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ā¤ļø

vapid sierra
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is it bad to hold 2nd dm for potion?

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assuming i only get 2 on zskarn

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or is it risky since the fight might push 6 minutes?

gusty mirage
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there's like 26 kills that are less than 4 minutes and 20s

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you sure you wanna delay your deathmark bud?

vapid sierra
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i dont think ours is

gusty mirage
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holding 2nd DM for a potion is holding DM for DM for 3 minutes

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so idk what that exactly accomplishes

vapid sierra
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getting it for potion

gusty mirage
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okay

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it's a 2min cd

vapid sierra
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16% wipe at 5:44

gusty mirage
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why would you hold it for 3 minutes

vapid sierra
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so it lines with potion

gusty mirage
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bro

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you use it on open

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2nd use is at 2 minutes

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you're gonna hold it for THREE MINUTES?

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that's an entire fucking cast

vapid sierra
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wait shit third dm

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wait no

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im confusing myself

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3rd dm

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fuck not second

gusty mirage
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why would you have to delay 3rd DM

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CD on potion is 5 minutes

vapid sierra
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3rd dm comes at 4 minute mkar

gusty mirage
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yeah

vapid sierra
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potion at 5

gusty mirage
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but why would you hold it

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if you hada 17% wipe

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at 5:40

vapid sierra
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because alot of people died and we pushed

gusty mirage
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you think you're gonna kill it within 30s?

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lol

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6-6:20 is typical kill timer

vapid sierra
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if more people were up it wouild die at around early 5's

vapid sierra
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i wont hold

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so do i hold potion for dm then?

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or do i wait and see how it goes

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and if boss dies before dm i just potion

gusty mirage
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look at that

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make the decision

vapid sierra
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wait you can check kill timers

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thank you oxi

gusty mirage
drifting cloud
gusty mirage
vapid sierra
blazing jewel
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quick everyone keep confusing him

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give him cognitive overload

vapid sierra
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so like what do you guys do to optimize fps in raid

slim hamlet
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Kick the fire mages

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and reduce useless stuff in raid only graphics

vapid sierra
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the second we're down to 7/8 people

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my fps is a smooth 144

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anytyhing else bro it feels like shit in comparison

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getting rid of elvui and reducing wa's/addons wont help

slim hamlet
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im a 70 fps gamer

vapid sierra
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ive tried

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its hard coming from tac fps gmaes where your always at like 300 fps

vapid sierra
slim hamlet
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Never have fps issues besides m+ with fire mage tbh

vapid sierra
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i would play 4;3 streched res if i could

slim hamlet
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and flying into valdrakken

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and i guess council s1 boss

vapid sierra
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idk maybe im more sensitive to fps ig

slim hamlet
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Probably

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im used to shit pc so I probably wont notice a few drops

vapid sierra
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fair enough

slim hamlet
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But still weird, I dont have issues in raid unless it's like a shit 40 man normal pug or a council fight

vapid sierra
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hmm

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i find t his shit choppy

vapid sierra
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KILLED SKARN kekdog

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3rd on the meters behind the locks

runic hinge
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the human eye can't see more than 30 fps

vapid sierra
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bullshit

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my buttery smooth 400 fps on csgo feels diferent than the piece of shit 70 on wow during raid

gaunt moat
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Congrats!

vapid sierra
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ty

quiet oar
royal lantern
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because you cant?

quiet oar
keen spruce
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tiramil let them live in the past

quiet oar
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The change from 60-144 changed my whole gaming experience

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Everything is so smooth

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Ngl 144 to 240 wasnt that much

keen spruce
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pretty sure someone in like 2008 just said you can't tell the difference and it's been recycled forever

royal lantern
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my job is done

keen spruce
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same with like "the human eye can't tell the difference past 720p"

agile osprey
quiet oar
keen spruce
quiet oar
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Yes this

royal lantern
frozen iris
agile osprey
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Meanwhile my gtx 1070 could cook an egg on raid nights

quiet oar
agile osprey
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Might be time to upgradeā€¦.

keen spruce
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thinking that human eyes operate with frame rate classic

quiet oar
quiet oar
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No way

frozen iris
quiet oar
keen spruce
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I mean at some point the roi is becomes more marginal

quiet oar
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They are probably expensive af

keen spruce
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like gameplay performance wise

quiet oar
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Like 140-240 fps you can get in Most games

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But 500 is like a cs go thing

frozen iris
quiet oar
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My 2k 240 hz Was already expensive

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Dont want to imagine 500hz monkahmm

keen spruce
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I think most cs players picked up 240 very early

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so i'd imagine that 500 will only be a budget restriction lol

frozen iris
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Alienware 500hz 24.5 inch is 830 usd

keen spruce
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that's a lot cheaper than i expected tbh

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but ig you also need a pc

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that can get you that kind of fps lol

frozen iris
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Not very many games could reach the fps to utilize that even with a 4090.

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Cs go maybe?

keen spruce
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yeah but think about how good roblox would look

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yeah csgo on low settings at like old school aspect ratio

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would hit it pretty easily

drifting cloud
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on 1080p pretty easy

keen spruce
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a lot of pros still play on 4:3 lol

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I don't think i'd go back down below 1440p now that i have it

frozen iris
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Yeah 1080p. Not sure what games can hit that as I donā€™t play them. I heard siege has high fps as well

keen spruce
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siege is fairly performant

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on 1080 you can get a lotta fps tho

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in a lotta games

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but like in an mmo a lot of it processor load

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iirc

subtle tundra
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Fuck r6

keen spruce
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i mean it's plagued with hackers

subtle tundra
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Makes me angy

keen spruce
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and has a dogshit meta

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for the last like 2 years

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but it's had its moments

subtle tundra
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Haven't played it in 3 years

keen spruce
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once all of the little pixel holes in walls started becoming the norm

subtle tundra
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Only reason I did was cause friends did

keen spruce
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the game became way less fun

subtle tundra
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I thrive along them

keen spruce
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i haven't played tarkov since the momentum changes

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a couple of years ago

subtle tundra
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That's when I started

keen spruce
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but that shit was like heroin to me

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like deadass

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16 hours days

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for weeks

subtle tundra
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Wipe should be on thursday

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So uh back to addiction

vapid sierra
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i play hunt

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instead of tarkov

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more laid back and chill

royal lantern
quiet oar
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Idk

quiet oar
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Ngl

peak lake
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
brittle jungle
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Hello, I come to report a bug (already done for some time) concerning our 2pAssa Aberrus bonus. The bug is the following when our Rupture/CrimsonTempest inflicts their damage we go into combat and come out of Stealth. Will have to settle this quickly because in PvP it's just infamous. Thanks.

hot tendon
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If you apply max stacks of wound poison (3 believe), and reduce boss healing by 24%. Does that mean that if I apply Deathmark, it goes up to 6 stacks and the healing reduction reaches 48%?

spice surge
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It used to (but multiplicatively) but they changed it to not work like that

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Or well, atleast they did for pvp but im fairly sure it wasnt a pvp specific change

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Also if you spec both points into wound it goes up to 48% with 5 stacks

hot tendon
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Oh nice, maybe that's better than

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Thanks!

glad vapor
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c

clever sapphire
spare cave
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the bug is hardly an issue

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play around it

brittle jungle
# spare cave play around it

If there is a problem because it takes us out of stealth and puts us in combat, from the moment we go back into combat, it is impossible to be able to stealth again.

spare cave
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not impossible

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youā€™re just slow

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try again

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track combat drops and youā€™ll notice more windows to restealth

brittle jungle
balmy condor
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be like that

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doesn't really affect PvE ever

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so its pretty low priority

spare cave
balmy condor
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yeh wouldn't know much tbh

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pvp in 2023 seems less than ideal

spare cave
#

ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

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I do it all

balmy condor
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yeh I mean I respect is as a mini game

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but it's clear that it doesn't really get attention

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both from blizzard as well as the community

keen spruce
royal lantern
brittle jungle
spare cave
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just think outside the box

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if itā€™s pulling you out of stealth and refreshing combat

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what would it do to enemy player?

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hope this helps

keen spruce
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nothing because they're still in combat with your teammate PES_Think

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and if they're not and trying to eat/stealth your rupture is gonna knock them out of it anyways

spare cave
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healer tries to drink with 41s of rupture on him

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what happens

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rdruid tries to meld rake with 41s of rupture on him

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what happens

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dot ticks donā€™t passively refresh combat

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but the tier is coded as a direct dmg effect

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instead of a dot

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which also probably enabled a lot of on-hit proc interactions as well

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they wonā€™t change it unless people abuse it in tournament play

brittle jungle
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Well, if it was really coded like this, the person clearly screwed up and voluntarily nerfed our spec.

keen spruce
#

but rupture would interrupt both of those examples whether or not they're in combat

spare cave
spare cave
keen spruce
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they interrupt drinking/eating

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and stealth

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even when the target is out of combat

spare cave
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correct

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thatā€™s the interaction with the tier

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now take off tier and try again

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try with garrote, even

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garrote 1 target dummy and walk away to restealth

keen spruce
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i'm saying that before this tier, dots would break your target's restealth anyways

spare cave
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but it would not refresh combat

keen spruce
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and unless i'm greatly misremembering, dots would interrupt drinks too

spare cave
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or apply combat, even

spare cave
#

tl;dr assa 2p is direct damage and applies combat (does not refresh)

keen spruce
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we know what the bug is

spare cave
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ok šŸ™‚

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was just explaining it from a pvp standpoint

keen spruce
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I don't see a world where an assas rogue not being to restealth when they want

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in pvp

spare cave
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where combat frequently drops

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bc the code is bad

keen spruce
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would not outweigh the chance of a healer drinking

spare cave
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agree to disagree

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just rupture more selectively

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play around it šŸ™‚

spice surge
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"Just dont do damage"

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YEP

keen spruce
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i'm not much of a pvper these days so i'd defer to someone that knows better

spare cave
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yeah thatā€™s me

keen spruce
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but that doesn't make any goddamn sense to me KEKWaddle

spare cave
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ye

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pvp coding is just people abusing combat system loopholes

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(me)

balmy condor
spare cave
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yeah sorry abt that

keen spruce
#

and i'm fuckin terrible at pvp

spare cave
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yeah i just one trick rogue

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period

keen spruce
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only got 2100 once in RBGs in SL because we had to

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for gear

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and that's rbgs

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so it doesn't really count

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just take naps on flags and sap druids then scream for help

balmy condor
gusty mirage
keen spruce
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outlaw has a higher rated solo shuffle player than assas anyways, deadge spec

spare cave
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could fix that if u want

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assa is better in shuffle i just havenā€™t qd

keen spruce
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our whole spec is getting rinsed by bootyguwu

spare cave
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on NA at least

keen spruce
#

your latest stream highlight was 4 years ago bonk_frog

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get back to work

spare cave
#

streaming annoys me

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canā€™t do it (mentally) for extended periods

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i stream when i play and donā€™t upload vids

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rogue player on tv is target of much hate

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cba

keen spruce
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the only purpose of my stream is to let the mods in here make fun of our dogshit raid prog and pepelaugh at my mistakes

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4 viewers and feels like 3 of them are oxi callin me a hooker

gusty mirage
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I have never called you a hooker on twitch wtf

keen spruce
#

i'm combining lore

gusty mirage
#

Yeah fair enough

keen spruce
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for narrataive effect

gusty mirage
keen spruce
spare cave
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and canā€™t stream pve because of performance issues

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šŸ˜ž

keen spruce
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my pc performance just goes from barely functional to slightly less functional but still playable

spare cave
#

yeah more of a raid issue for me

keen spruce
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i'm still rockin a solid 5fps coming out of intermission on first boss of HoI

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stream or not

spare cave
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lmao

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psure thatā€™s details related

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or like details conflicting with something else

keen spruce
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i turned details refesh rate way down but it tends to be the culprit of most stuff

spare cave
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turning off details storage netted me like 30 fps

keen spruce
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but i'll also never turn it off

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must watch number

spare cave
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ofc

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donā€™t gota tell me

blazing jewel
balmy condor
#

dooker

keen spruce
spice spire
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Gonna ook em in the dooker Monke_Mad

blazing jewel
gusty mirage
main vessel
#

hi, I apologize for doing this so late, but WoWA should no longer tell you that assassination isn't supported anymore

gusty mirage
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the only thing you should apologize for is not being around more

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we love you and you abandoned us šŸ˜¢

spice spire
main vessel
gusty mirage
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I miss when quake cared about my weeks

main vessel
#

I haven't abandon, I just lurk

gusty mirage
main vessel
#

I'm in stealth like a real rogue

spice spire
gusty mirage
main vessel
gusty mirage
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so feel free to come in and make fun of quake more often

main vessel
gusty mirage
spice spire
frozen iris
#

What is WoWa?

deft flicker
#

WoWAnalyzer

frozen iris
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Ah I forgot about that site

spice spire
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Of the three rogue specs

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Weā€™re best supported

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Because topple is handsome

main vessel
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only one supported KEKW

spice spire
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Listen man

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Iā€™m not here to take out kneecaps

main vessel
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Subtlety hasn't been updated since BoD

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Outlaw got updated some for VotI

balmy condor
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they showed up in shadowlands and wanted to support all 3 rogue specs

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took a google doc

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and then left

main vessel
balmy condor
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unlucky

main vessel
#

what happened to Sepsis

balmy condor
#

relatable

main vessel
balmy condor
#

idk man it's all returning null

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I haven't found the issue yet

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and we're doing final rounds with family people atm

main vessel
#

offer still stands that I'm happy to poke at it if you push it up

balmy condor
#

ofc ā¤ļø

rocky hamlet
#

Does anyone know if the the Assasination rework will remove the painful stealth requirement AKA improved garotte ?

pseudo hamlet
#

We know nothing yet

balmy condor
#

^

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might be more might be less

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might be the same

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right now the "requirement" is pretty lax

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the most you lose is iron wire

spice surge
#

I would guess no seeing as it has been a great part of assa's identity since atleast BFA

balmy condor
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the damage component isn't really all that impressive over the course of a dungeon

rocky hamlet
#

the stealth requirement for assa really need to go for PVE

balmy condor
#

if you lose a couple restealths it's no big deal

spice surge
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But like whispyr said for m+ its actually better to chain pull than getting resteatlh

balmy condor
pseudo hamlet
gusty mirage
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having energy saturation from bleeds > the damage amp that you'll eventually get anyway with vanish

rocky hamlet
#

the difference bewteen 8 x improved garotte v 8 normal is huge - how is this insignificant

spice surge
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Because having ruptures and energy rolling already

balmy condor
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vanish exists

spice surge
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Is more impactful, its not like just not stealthing if you drop combat is worth it

rocky hamlet
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but 2 min cd

balmy condor
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having the energy rolling from the chain pull in general with the lack of downtime will provide more benefits than downsides

rocky hamlet
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with stealth bugs and spiteful its really painful / annoying sometimes

balmy condor
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spiteful is the highest dps week

gusty mirage
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you slap some low cp rupturess on spiteful

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and you're swimming in energgy

balmy condor
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yup

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abusing spitefuls for energy into the next pull is pretty smooth

spice surge
#

Improved garrote is only 50% nowadays, not super massive

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Compared to the like 300% of bfa OMEGAKEKW

balmy condor
#

yeh OmegaLUL

gusty mirage
#

energy regen is the biggest barrier for dps for assassination

rocky hamlet
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but its 800% v 1200%

balmy condor
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correct

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and the lack of downtime is worth 400%

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so

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GG

rocky hamlet
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when IC is ready and for 1 GCD spreading in that momemt 1200% of garottes

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how many ruptures are up or whatever is rolling is unimportant

spice surge
#

Yes IC with stealthed garrote does more damage than not stealth garrote

woeful meteor
balmy condor
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well if IC is ready and you know it's ready and you know you're not getting a restealth then you just hold vanish

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no big deal

rocky hamlet
#

well if vanish had same cd as IC that would indeed be a solution

balmy condor
#

I'm going to be honest with you, this isn't really debatable at all. We've gone through this song and dance for years now

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it's been shown and proven many many many MANY times over

rocky hamlet
#

true but the so called rework has never happened before

balmy condor
#

I mean we have no clue what's in the rework

rocky hamlet
#

not an the same level as other specs have already recieved

balmy condor
#

maybe improved garrote going to 500% in the rework

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and then yeah probably matters

rocky hamlet
#

well thats the prob - if you can barely restealth then it could be 100000%

balmy condor
#

but the fact remains that with every iteration of assassination from 9.0 to now

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it just isn't impactful

rocky hamlet
#

and it doesdnt give any benefit

balmy condor
#

I mean okay

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what's the point

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if you get no stealths, then your garrotes do less

rocky hamlet
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same reason i dont take the silence talent

balmy condor
#

no one is arguing that

woeful meteor
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not taking wire

rocky hamlet
#

ive no idea if it can be used

balmy condor
#

then you need to play more

woeful meteor
#

that's even more trolling than sin in m+ to begin with

rocky hamlet
#

speaking from a pug standpoint

balmy condor
#

so you become comfortable enough to know when it can and can't be used

rocky hamlet
#

ive always played assa

balmy condor
#

I'm sure you have

rocky hamlet
#

ill even go as far to say assa has the worst RNG of any spec

balmy condor
#

doesn't change the fact that iron wire is a massive boon to your m+ performance

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and whats your evidence for that

rocky hamlet
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coz we dont know if the tank is gonna chain pull / pull mobs into boss's etc

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its RNG on a whole new level

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from a pug standpoint

subtle imp
#

Iā€™d be down to bring back degen fok spam for a week again fok

balmy condor
#

ever heard of a fire mage

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the damage they lose when a tank pulls mobs out of their ground aoes is insane

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assassination is a speck of dust in comparison

silk bane
#

not really? they only lose like 50% of their damage. so still doing 800k dps not too bad kekman

balmy condor
#

I'm not saying you're lying about your perception of the spec losing a massive amount of its damage from not getting a restealth. It might well feel like that to you while you're playing. But the math doesn't add up to reflect that

rocky hamlet
#

well this week is extra sucky with spiteful

pseudo hamlet
#

How do we play with the bomber trinket? I just got it... was using 447 Dice and... 441 Neltharion (starege )

balmy condor
#

you're more than welcome to have your opinion on how "bad it feels" to not get a restealth or whatever. Your experience playing assassination in m+ is as valid as mine

pseudo hamlet
#

Can I macro it to something or just use it on CD?

balmy condor
#

numerically though there's no leg to stand on though

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it's that simple

rocky hamlet
#

from ~55-60k overall garotte damage down to 40 ish

balmy condor
gusty mirage
#

what the purple man said

balmy condor
#

but we'll see what 10.2 brings for m+ I guess

silk bane
#

whispyrs daily schedule while in yermany:
wake up at 6 am. go pick out appales for gram gram
7:00 - 8:00 : go search for redbull to regain some will to live
8:00 - 10:00 flirt with the homies
10:00 am - 11pm: talk about why not restealthing doesnt mean ur damage goes to 0, or why stats dont matter that much, and that rework is comign at 10.2 stop dooming

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did i miss anything

balmy condor
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maybe improved garrote is completely gone idk (it won't be)

balmy condor
gusty mirage
rocky hamlet
#

im new here - do any blizz devs read these discord chats?

gusty mirage
#

or is that part of the flirt portion

frozen iris
balmy condor
silk bane
pseudo hamlet
balmy condor
#

could be a month between them reading it

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could be them reading it before they go to bed at night for daily entertainment of people dooming

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while they point and laugh

spice spire
#

Real

gusty mirage
#

TIL blizz devs and I have the same nightly routine

rocky hamlet
#

with popcorn probably

spice spire
#

I knew Realz was a real(z) one

gusty mirage
#

I'm banning you

spice spire
#

?

balmy condor
#

I'm banning myself

gusty mirage
#

what confused you about my sentence

balmy condor
#

again

gusty mirage
spice spire
#

Iā€™m scared to send the banana

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Even as a meme

balmy condor
#

I think fuu manually unbanned me and gave me roles through moroes

gusty mirage
#

also why did we promote this whispyr guy to purple

#

he's only been here less than a year?

balmy condor
#

real

deft flicker
gusty mirage
#

why'd we give this oxi guy orange

#

he's only been here since november of last year

balmy condor
#

sorry I'm new guys

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we play exsang?

spice spire
#

Same

#

Actually all of us only here in 2022

balmy condor
#

the great exodus of 2022

gusty mirage
#

2022 was a fun year

#

did shiennar get banana'd by zine in 2022

deft flicker
gusty mirage
#

or was it earlier this year

balmy condor
#

kinda upset that my original join date isn't here

deft flicker
#

But thatā€™s just my experience

spice spire
#

Mine isnā€™t here because of some stinky (then) orange name

gusty mirage
frozen iris
#

Is bomb dispenser off gcd?

gusty mirage
#

yep

balmy condor
spice spire
balmy condor
#

Starege january 2017

#

it's been almost 7 years

gusty mirage
balmy condor
#

help

spice spire
#

Youā€™re beyond help sir

balmy condor
#

*HELP

gusty mirage
#

no

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you did this to yourself

balmy condor
#

Fine Iā€™ll just eat my pork roast and be happy then

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A brief fleeting moment of bliss

#

Before the unchanging reality of the universe crushes me in its weight

deft flicker
storm belfry
gusty mirage
storm belfry
#

pugging is lame

gusty mirage
#

playing the game is lame

storm belfry
#

also true

gusty mirage
#

I wanted to try to get 2 m+ boxes this week

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I pugged 2 keys

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and wanted to uninstall

storm belfry
#

yeah i did two today and was kinda done

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but w friends its better

gusty mirage
#

it really isn't

storm belfry
#

I had fun with you

gusty mirage
#

cool game

storm belfry
gaunt moat
#

cba to even do m+ this week.
What am i even trying to get?
A 447 dice? Slim chance

storm belfry
#

i got that

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and i only raid log on my rogue

gusty mirage
#

maybe rngesus my way to 447 dice

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I'm sure as fuck not doing 8 keys for that very slight chance I might get the dice

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@frozen iris pugging to 2500, especially now is actually legit pain

storm belfry
#

hopefully we kill sark this week or next

gusty mirage
#

I'm sorry friend

spice surge
#

Just loot a 457 trinket from vault oxi

#

I believe in you

gusty mirage
#

lmao

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I've seen 1 call to suffering all tier

#

and it went to our holy priest

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and it was a heroic one

storm belfry
#

i hated using that thing on my rogue

gusty mirage
#

better than beacon

storm belfry
#

just kept me out of stealth in keys

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im sure its good in raid

#

but i hated it in keys

gusty mirage
#

that's your first mistake

#

doing keys

storm belfry
#

well this was on tourney realm

#

so i just was testing highest ilvl triunks

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and after two keys i stopped using it

silk bane
#

u guys are trolling or what. who even plays the game at this point

#

im already diamond 1 in TFT. the real game

gusty mirage
storm belfry
#

I have just been back to healing again unless friends want the lock juice

#

yeah i raid log for sark prison

spice surge
storm belfry
#

ready to be out

#

its all good eleem i dont do keys on my rogue and i also dont have it

#

i looted it on my rdruid and sold it to a DK tho

silk bane
frozen iris
storm belfry
silk bane
#

lowkey banger

gusty mirage
silk bane
#

although mages and boomies make me wanna double backflip off a bridge

gusty mirage
#

I always invite the assassination rogues when I'm tanking

#

I don't invite pirates though

#

I discriminate against them

#

specifically

storm belfry
#

I don't invite any PEEK

gusty mirage
#

if I find him on here

#

I'm going to clown him

storm belfry
#

lmao

frozen iris