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(dont make me post you on twitter)
I'm more like mickal jeksun actually
But you shouldn’t
because you've probably considered bleaching your skin
gottem
Why do you have that saved

damn quake are you the only ten-i-see or are you just a six and I can't count
Zar about to unleash a twitlonger from heck
I’m like a 2 and you really can’t count
You’re at least a 5 with your personality
you're probably a 12 after exactly 1.3 mai tai's though
For you, 0.3

You forgot the - king
you tall glass of diet pepsi looking sugary treat

You told zine “league is a disease get well soon” more or less
That was an absolute banger
Is he wrong though
"the only thing I see when I look down is a massive horse cock, if you had two of them you could use them for railroad tracks"
is one of the drunk whispyr quotes of all time
he looked down
I think my favorite bit of the whole thing was first message: “you’re so nice you’re an inspiration.”
Second person;
“Holy fuck you’re a ****.”
Third person:
“You’re dumb as fuck, but me too.”
Truly a blessing
I read that some loot from the new dungeon can drop on the myth track if you kill it on hardmode. Does that mean we can get a 447 timestrike dagger?
no
Only final boss
ahh dang.
I wonder if 10.2 is going to have more timestrike loot. Seems like coming up with a whole keyword just for a couple weapons is weird
would be on brand for blizzard
tell that to my annulet
spend a billion dev hours on something with potential, scrap it the next patch/tier/expansion for fun and re-introduce a watered down version, players don't like the watered down version because it's worse, "we hear feedback", add some needed QoL, phase it out completely, repeat from the top
that's basically been the blizzard standard operating procedure since legion
artifacts? sick, but then watered down at the end of the expac, and reintroduced as azerite armor, not sick. Reintroduced again as generics with soulbinds, all of them were un-inspired and didn't really matter and the conduits were jank the entire time, phased out completely
artifact power? kinda fine, can grind at your own pace, but then you're behind, water down with catch up systems and infinite grind nodes, then reintroduce as heart of azeroth levels with island farming
warfronts? islands? decent starting point for new content, made easy and boring, people complained, phased out completely
torghast? sounds cool, decent first ideas, added some new powers, built on it a little, but then took the side game into the main game and oops all choreghast, phased out
covenant systems for players to associate with a faction? rip
legendaries? rip, and then back, and then rip, and then maybe back, but probably rip
tier sets? cool, then removed, then came back (they're really boring now)
blizzard actually makes it a point to roll out first-pass interesting concepts for systems
and then refuse to build on them ever again
every fucking expac like clockwork
they just altf4 all the progress they made on a given system in the last 3 years
and just start from scratch
I will never understand it
catching strays smh
it's insane to me that you can design an mmo, a game genre with a foundation of being a live-service game for over a decade, someties multi-decade
and you just make it a point to delete your work every couple years for fun
It's probably a way to keep development "fresh" as well for player retention, game industry has changed a lot since it came out. Look at other games that have released multiple sequels for longer.
path of exile releases 4 expansions a year and a vast majority of them go into the core game, maplestory has been around 18 years and the basically the entire game is based off horizontal progression
both of them have strong growing playerbases over the last 5 years
I get the freshness
but would it be so bad to just take like
1 good thing of an expansion forward
instead of milling it into sand at the end of an expac and building a shitty sand castle v2 every time
the promotional stuff for islands and warfronts in bfa were especially meme-worthy because they were marketing their new super-ai pvp characters
and what happened to that
just poofed
into thin air
chatgpt was made form that tech fr
like sands in an hourglass
they're like we want to make more interesting pve encounters, so we made an entire new thing for enemies. They have personalities now, some are aggressive, some are passive, some will go gank you, others will play the objectives. It's different every time and we can control the difficulty and it's super cool
uses it once in side-content 5 years ago
I mean even if it's just "keeping the game fresh"
they showed off new tech for the engine
and then just didn't ever use it again
that doesn't scream "well planned and executed use of resources to me"
if anything, islands and warfronts are what they should be looking back at if they want to keep the game fresh, it was very different content from what we've ever had, enjoyable for most everyone
That's blizzard, i don't think they go for well-planned.
and they made islands into a crazy RNG generated thing
was it fun grinding it for level 128 of my neck?
no
yes
Yea, I didn't like bfa, stopped playing it, and barely touched those features
but the novelty and the randomness of islands themselves
are actually crazy
add islands back with dragon-racing scouting missions where you have to survey an island
idfk
do something
but you can have systems that interact and build off each other
they don't even need to be the main progression of gear or power
you could add a version of torghast back in using the bronze dragonflight, have it drop some crests or whatever
would it be the main source of crests or rep or whatever? no of course not
but it's something that you develop once, and then you just tweak it to fit whatever the current reward structure is so it's not completely irrelevant, and you're good to go
With the bronze dragonflight they could do all sorts of playing with time stuff, bringing back systems in an interesting way
yeh
I just
don't have faith that blizzard is able to see that far ahead
it feels like they're just going patch to patch
and throwing everything at the wall
to see what sticks
their name describes their development style pretty well.
yeha, blizzard and really bizzare choices, name a more iconic duo
like
allied races? just forgoten after BfA, when it was 1of the most sucessfull things from that expansion
like, just nothing at all
or the entire "no transmog for dracthyr" thing, who thinks that was a good idea?
"yeha, they will clip kinda bad, lets just disable it" when everything in the game clips very bad anyway, and people just either ignore it or dont use those things...........?
thorghast beeing fully ignored when it had quiet a few interesting things, like, after 9.1 throghsat was just gone
Bfa had way too much to live up to with legion being it’s predecessor
I hated bfa tho tbh
Thorghast was good in some way, but you needed to run for the legendary shit and then it was a additional weekly
See: 'final fantasy has a support class. We should have a support class. This will work in our game's
except that dancer is like
Players also play wow and FF for different reasons.
"i do 95% dmg of a normal dps, and buff the other guy by 5%"
thats dancer
not what ever that clusterfuck that augmenation is
I honestly hate every single thing about Aug and I don't know if I'll keep playing the game
It just screams 'we hate people who try to minmax damage, take this shit bucko'
nah, its the other way around
its the death of multiple classes/specs
why even THINK ablut Hunters anymore
just bring a support and let the anime Protagonist, aka warlock/mage do more dmg
the amount of comp minmaxing that will happen?
yeha, say goodbye if you are not a class/spec with a mandatory buff/debuff
if we get more "supports" it will legit just turn into "bring all mandatory buffs(with "supports" if possible ofc) and them stack "supports" so that the REAL dps, aka warlock/mage do dmg, sucks to be the rest"
It's wild to me that no one at blizzard stopped and thought "is this actually fun for anyone who isn't the evoker or the class they're buffing"
they are always skewed with that
the issue with torghast really was that it was the ONLY way to get your legendaries crafted
if they just spread it out a little
and you could get them like crests
where you don't feel forced to do it
torg would've been miles better already
I mean. Sure, it's theoretically fun to have a support juice the fuck out of a warlock who pops off. But uhh, what about everyone else
when its designed to be a chore, it's gonna suck
in blizzards eyes, Pi is a great ability because "omg i buff a warlock and he does INSANE dmg!!!!! its such a cool team effort"
players meanwhile stand there like "allright, that warlock gets pi, he is always top dps cus of it, no contest at all, and the other warlock can suck it up because he doesnt get it, why is that a thing?"
same with their great new "supports"
Or: you run 2-4 priests for more PIs.
ita not even a "support" cus many classes/specs wont ever get any buffs from them
it litearlly just translates into " 4people are heroes, the rest suck it up losers"
that i really dont get why not give the stuff to everyone and lower the numbers from it
Warrior shout at me daddy support class when
i always thought shaman would be support with drums etc.
i legit cant understand how they thought it is a good idea in any form
Pi alone is 1of the biggest sources of drama i ever saw in a videogame, nobody likes Pi, not even the classes that get it cus they are somewhat balanced around Pi, priests themself hate it cus of how annoying all the Pi talk is and getting spammed about it
and then?
"suck it up, we double down"
like, i really wonder how the casual playerbase will react to it, simply cus their beloved Hunters are the first to go by default 
and i absolutely HATE how it double downs on raid teamcomps beeing extremely narrow with 0 room for other options if they decide to expand their "supports" instead of realising how much of an mistake they are
raidteam will litearlly be 100% set in stone at that point
not Like as if raiding is allready struggeling with players cus of time comitment+class/spec blocks 
how does stacking augmentation evokers work ?
wdym?
they stack, simple as that lol
no diminishing returns or anything like that, if you mean that
i hoped there is some issues with stacking them so there is not 2 or 3 augmentations evoker per raid
you eventually run into the issue of augmentations buffing other augmentations
which you want to try and avoid
as well as like healers/tanks
but aside from that
no reason not to stack
Casual wow players hate elites.
i hate going to bed thinking i gained 2k dps with new trinket just so i wake up and lose it again 😄
Will not be surprised if new dagger oversimms too
We confirmed dagger sims right.
at least we dont need to do whole dungeon, just 2 bosses
just the second boss actually
dagger seems like the only thing worth a damn from what it looks like
sucks that THEY are the first guys to get hit 
Unless you have a group with you, don't be the guy who leaves after your boss is dead
oh I'm gonna be that guy pal
same
the good timeline(litearlly)
dont have ti farm a shity new trinket 
I don't play a rogue because of my strong moral compass and unbreakable mental fortitude
I go in, I kill second boss
as in fixed in the sims or fixed ingame?
it doesn't drop dagger
I alt+f4
smash a monster
and then punch a hole through my door
yes

idk, is there a bug with it in game?
it should sim accurate to the game now
but if there's an issue that we don't know of
then idk
ah okay, so it was overperforming in the sim
all these caster classes get augment buff from evokers, mages blasting, warlocks blasting everything blasting
and here we have us rogues
we get some benefit from windfurries!
not really, cus melee is balanced around WFT

5 man group windfury and the rest of melee would just rather be benched
no need to bring more
oh boy, still a must have for me then I assume
oh was still on weekly

you lucky dog

get back in the queue buddy
I'm stupid
All these casters and blasters get to socially interact with PI and Seasoning and Auggies havers, live a life of joy and excitement
can you be my sugar daddy please 

wdym money, he asked for sugar
zaddy slayyyy
sugar is a good that can be exchanged for money
Moments like this I wanna go to Kharanos, buy some Thunder Ale, sit on a pier in stealth and reflect on my life choices, while warlocks get to vibe over a new class quest chain
elaborate
is this an outlaw moment?
what the fuck are you on about
dwarf rp
awww, dagger is an upgrade though
Idk I just woke up at 4am with intrusive thoughts of “why did I even choose to be a rogue when other classes are so cool”
well you see, money can be used to purchase, as well as sell various things in todays society. It could be a service, such as me sucking your toes, or a good, in this case a physical commodity such as sugar
Yall mfs need go sleep
Now it’s almost 10am, I had some more sleep but still it feels sour
it's 8:45 in the morning buddy
I ain't going anywhere
it's only gonna get worse
Well in that case I go sleep >:D
no sleep
kinda rude lowkey
Gnight
I'm sorries
+23s with aug evokers feel like +17s
she pea on my nut till I butter
Pea is stored in the balls
which ball
the bigger one
||you’re probably right, this feels like an outlaw moment||
nice
you dont wanna know how hard it is to fight against the voices
they want me to say degenerate stuff
you can be my peanut daddy if sugar is too expensive
I'd say the balls are more like a bean
I do know
That's not even a joke 🤕
yeha, because it isnt....?
@blazing jewel
So like... any reason you're not taking 3 points in zoldyck for echo?
classes are balanced around having the normal mandatory buffs notter, i know that lol
I'm not sure what to do
I have no idea why I took the talents I did o_o
If it wasn't clear, i was AGREEING with you
is 3pt zold better
probs cus p2 dmg is w/e i gues?
idk, i played the normal assa build lol
I have no idea
I was pressing buttons
and hoping some of them did damage
idk if I would recommend my log for a study session lol
Rogue moment
juat like me fr
yeah, because phase 1 and 2 damage don't matter, i'm thinking zolydic is better
but none of the sins took that
so i don't know what i should do
for a prog kill
I’d say take it
idk if you will make the boss go damage immune in p2
like, how do i even compare one extra point in zoldyck to shourded suffocation
we are
Yeah you Do
we did for the last add, but like, that was 10-20seconds lol
3pt zold probably better for prog then
it was immune for a few seconds
I think at that point
you would just run an execute sim for the average p3 fight length duration
and compare them
is echo progress fun as sin?
I mean with zodyck you can execute your mates even fastee
echo is a weakaura fight
Weakaura and macro
you will prog it exactly as quick as your ranged learn their spots and people learn P3 spots
do you know how to do that?
I CLICKED MACRO
give me 5 ill cook
we wiped multiple times, even at 1.5, cause people go to wrong portals 🥲
standard
3pt zold
kinda weird to pull data from
because you wont go into p3 with everything up
I think I normally send sepsis on the 3rd add
and vanish dm I think
I forgot
We had time for 5 more.
we started almost an hour late because our tank just got home from a flight as well.
i can tell you exactly how long it took us to get to 1.5, let's see
Yeah we had like 170 pulls
Becauss people cant read a fucking map
Or press a macro
yeah it should abe about 2:30 minutes that he's under 35%
WA NOT WORKING IDK WHY
Its so annoyinf
To progress an outside mechanic
I mean if people could fucking read. Wa not working wouldnt be a Problem
did you see how we killed killed echo on prog
no
They brought him to 0 hp
i fully expect to have something similar with the way my raid handles portals.
like, after 3rd blast, half or more are dead.
maybe save cloak for something like that then idk
I normall just send mine during my dm in p3 now
and skip the boom that happens during it
yes, i use cloak on 2nd blast
no reason not to, i'm not gonna do more damage if i cloak to survive a 5th blast and then die immidiatly to melee attack by boss
that's why you evasion as you can see scana use in the clip
I thought he was going to melee me but he never did lol
he just started casting again
better evasion than dead to boss/add melee attacks
he just gave me a big look
(my 1.5% attempt)
are you dying in p2 ever
that defently is not gonna help do more damage than standing on boss and hitting him with all CD + pot
can send a cloak during any of the slightly bad overlaps in early-mid p2
i used cloak at 6:26, so earliest i can use is 4:20~
let's see what happens there
yes, when moving to him we had many wipes.
usually because friendly fire
even yesterday, frost makge NUKED me for 250k with a single hit.
with glacial spike i think?
something that cleaves
bro lol
just need to cloak and evasion during corruption 
thats the fun part
the answer to everything
"why did you hit me"
"why didn't you cloak?
"
People who cry about DPS
on Prog
WITH DMG STOPS
Are the worst
can stop there
but MY PARSES
fuck off, parses are a joke anyway
Pi made it worse
Thats why our first kills are private
sUpPoRt sPeCs made them worthless
tbh I could never play aug
not seeing myself on damage meters would be demotivating
to be fair, damage stops are a stupid aspect of the raid design
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz
I hope they make aug show up on Details like it does in logs
Or make a separate bar of “this is how much an Auggie is contributing by buffing”
they stated they don't plan to
they like it that it looks like he's not doing dps cause he's a support
EVERYTHING about that spec is a gigantic L
they said "he makes other's number big"
yeah lol, i ran into that last night 
joined a megadungeon group
we wiped
tank asks evoker "why are you doing zero dps and healing"
evoker says: "I'm augmentor"
tank says "okay so? why are you doing zero dps and healing?"
i told him he is clueless and left
Humans taking another L against reading comprehension
it's a new spec type, so i understrand the confusion.
but i want to play with people that do a minimum of research about the game
Yeah its dumb
Same
Which becomes even more hilarious if you think about how good an auggie can be in MDI-style pulls
And suddenly it’s on everyone’s screens. And everyone wants one. But nobody really understands why because auggie doesn’t blast on its own
The chaos
The fact details do not show their actual dps (personal + given) doesn't help
People can't understand what a "support" is
Yep
that information alone would be very useful
No need to attribute it to auggie, make given DPS a separate bar, like Kyrian Weapons or Sanguine Ichor has
but reading comprehension too hard to learn
at that point, why not make it the evoker's bar?
again, blizz stated: "we want augmenter to make other's bars bigger"
oh yeah, really curious about the next MDI and AWC with augmentation in them
SPOILER
It will be stacked
togheter with firemage
and spriest
absolute suprise
HEY I WANTED TO GET SUPRISED 😦
maybe some other dps and a disc priest healer to spice things up
which is probably also gonna lose
its kinda funny they struggle to balance PI but decided to make a whole class wich buffs stuff
Would be extra funny if Details releases a patch that actually does that
wouldn't PI giving haste value based on the class/spec it's on be a way to balance it? just tune the individual haste values then - like demo lock gets 14% while others get 20%
that would be borderline impossible
probs get a plugin for it
Just make PI give me the highest stat i have
Doing it in real time like details does is terribly difficult for details and any dps meter
you just made pi more broken and mandatory, congratz
that idea is so stupid, it ALMOST beats the idea of a support spec 
what makes you say that?
they would if they could
but the information details receives doesn't provide enough data for that
But would it be broken?
Ah yea, PI as a defensive
just delete the talent who gives pi to you and another and shadow is already alot more balanced then it is
you know how every single person in this disc has different gear and stat weights
yea that
I mean everyone could get a use of that than
So that its not a by default UH or WL buff
no
everyone has 34% crit
0% specifically for beacon 
Make PI give a fraction of all your stats combined
Instead of 10% haste
It’s 25% of your haste converted back
25%
PI ME IM ABOUT TO CALL IN THE HOMIE I NEED THAT CRIT BRO PI ME
so give PI to the person with the highest ilvl?
And then it scales off trinkets
So you give it to the person with the most procs at any given time
OR
Poooogggggg
dude a person in my guild said why did someone pi scana and I said I didnt even know I had it. Response was "how dont you know you have pi"
he doesnt know the rogue struggle
and with the highest amount of single stat
You cant Pi anyone except yourself

Idiot check
Imagine stats doing anything
he doesnt know about the fixed gcd 
Yeah and it’s during my cooldowns where I’m at 400000 energy
So now instead of overcapping 300 energy during Deathmark
I’m overcapping 400
Super noticeable
You are truly being infused with power
Autoattacks though
Wish they could infuse me with the power of noticing a difference when I make large changes to my gear
Go outlaw, we have greentexts

The biggest thing I notice about my gear is channeling a dumb box for 2 seconds
but you are in this channel too
I have no clue why
Same
why did you cut him in half
lost 447 bomba to brewmaster monk.
This makes a lot of sense. Tanks should take the static damage trinkets and give dps the stat proc trinkets since they get more use from those.
nah, brm just has more things that interact with trinkets to boost them iirc
didnt they also lose most of that stuff what interacted with trinkets the same patch rogue lost some?
i got simbaited by the new trinket rip
no wonder i was doing less than before
cant even go past 220k on assault
yeah surely that's why
it's that damned 1500 dps my trinket was oversimming
that's why I'm parsing blue
damned sims
am I right
Honestly thats why we need a buff 💔 we cannot keep up with anyone in any scenario, we only shine execute phase, then get crushed when its burst window for some classes
Ironically we didn’t get anything this patch, and those classes got buffed
weird how we can't keep up with anyone in any scenario and then keep up with plenty of specs in boss damage all the time
Thats very specific though, what if the boss was moving and we lose poison bomb damage

idk

What if the tank is hyper active hahaha
tank
help
my
poison
bomb
is
ticking
for
300dps 
does your character instantly explode into a puff of smoke and all your damage is gone
mine doesn't do that idk
Listen.. the only reason we sin one tricks keep up, is cuz we played the spec for so long, some just have it easier 😌 giv buf
that's just not how that works
I have literally never specced sin in raid until 2 days before the small aura buff we got
Ahh, I only play sin regardless of our situation
if you're going to be delusional at least recognize it
the voices in my head get real loud sometimes too
it's okay
happens
Whispyr invent us a new talent tree route for ST i enjoy your guides 🫶🏼
Hahahahah
I showed you my sepsis pls respond
Jetlag increasing the volume of the voices

I slept a total of 6 hours, in 2 hour increments last night
and then ate breakfast
and took a nap
and now I ate lunch
and I'm sleepy
I'm so giga fucked
Beer gardens tonight 
I wope up at 10 am today to watch apex lan and then it was delayed by 90 min 
could have slept 30% more
For the sole purpose of making weakauras and apls right
thought it was fun when I started completely lost when it comes to both aside from simple things
!whispyr
Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev
Math this 
Go back to bed old man
Some of us have real jobs to get to
We don’t all get to play matchbox cars into our adult lives

jobs in 2023 :^)
couldn't be me
I'm in a Agile certification course all day 
wtf is that
IT stuff
man i wish

yeah it's the name of the of development methodology
8 hours today on a zoom call and 8 hours tomrrow 
based
but i need the course to allow for a CSM certification
Chainsaw Man certification 
Weeb




2 mirrors dropped and the shaman gave it to the prot warrior 

2 dropped in my run and i convinced someone to trade it. It doesnt do as much damage as beacon/bomb though. So baffled at how it should be better in dslice
It gives you stats

True
ai clone yourself
eeeeeeasy
zoom calls 
Only 2 hours on call today then patient rooms all day 
i just told em my mic is acting up
Only 2 hrs of work a day then I sit in the office watching twitch or playing mobile games for 6 hrs
and i'm doin keys
Holy based
You’re an opp holy fuck
How?
Oh ok. That makes sense.
I mean I take calls sometimes during those 6 hrs but not a lot. Or respond to emails. But I don’t consider that work when it’s like 3 or 4 maybe out of 6 hrs
Lmao
It’s okay once it hits like September I’ll be busy til January
To bad you can't just go home after those 2hrs
Yah me too
I'd rather kill myself than work from home
I love work from home.
Don't have to get dressed in anything but sweatpants. Go for walks whenever I want. Hang out with my dog
!sims
Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html
!whispyr
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If I didn't have anyone to take care of dog I'd probably also do that. But I cannot live properly without human interactions and going outside. 
Friends and activities
Pickleball league, volunteer work, bars with friends
I hear u tho
I could definitely do with not seeing most people for an extended period. I like my online group. I move ever 3-5 years so they are the constant.
When bomb dispenser + anvil sims best for you but you don't want to drop bacon
I want bomb dispenser so bad 😦
I'm running a 441 anvil and a 437 Iridius fragment.
@royal lantern very balanced addition to the game
https://www.twitch.tv/notabrasive/clip/FaintTsunderePepperTwitchRaid-4qMubp8VAEsXSIHq?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time
Shmeeps going to be our resident scrum master soon? 
I'll have my CSM within the week hopefully 

I need a PM... period. I'm effectively a 1 man department for a medium sized sf org and hate talking to end users
So plz apply
send me details i've been out of work for like 8 months 
and by out of work i mean i quit my job in novemeber and have been playing wow like a degenerate
Atta boy
and on second thought, none of my bosses know what I actually do. So when I say "That'll be 2 weeks", there are no questions asked
They don't have to ask questions either it's private
yeah but i could just say that instead
and get paid like twice as much as you
and you could go about your business
win win

i'll give you kickbacks off my salary 
I accept payment in the form of subway

so my 447 anvil outsims my 441 beacon by like 500
should I still be taking beacon
what's the logic there

anvil pretty gud
I hate reading
at high ilvl
that's what I'm asking
with an anvil
sims don't count for beacon crits? or like
it factors them in
the sim dps is like an average
of many thousands of iterations
but it's not gonna show you like the highest highroll of crits
so the reason everyone chooses beacon over anvil is because of the potential for full crits
Oh btw shmeeps my guild likes your bomb wa so much that I got our hunters and boomies using those other ones you made
indeed
the moonkin one is so fuckin obnoxious if you install the sound file
it just spams a fart noise over and over
LOL
until you go back into form
at all times
I didn't add any load in combat stuff to it
Is the Iridius fragment simming correctly now? I thought I saw somewhere it was high by like 18%
So the heroic nelth's trinket drops on myth path?
Cause if so I really shouldnt have passed
delete your message before whispyr sees it and blows a blood vessel in his head

it do
It's just a 444->447 upgrade
If you were going to pass on the 444 version I'm not sure 3 more ilevel would change anything
well he shouldn't have passed on the 444 anyway 
Doesn’t matter what they pin, no one reads them regardless
Good sir, I prefer to gamble with my dice 
But not as a pirate
dice gud
probably most consistent
i only have 441 dice tho
my vault had 3 447 cloaks this week 
I don't know if I have anything better. I guess I'll just sim everything then reduced OF by 18% and pick what's left?
Hey now that's not part of the assassin. Get that hate outa here
🙂
does this mirror trinket from last boss on hard mode sim bis for you too ? xD
it's kinda tricky
No, it simmed worse than every other competitive trinket at 441 for me
But I still want it
for reasons
Fragment still over simming yes?
@dusk summit you could check the blootmallet trinket list for assas, take 18% off of fragment there and see how it lines up with other stuff you ahve at that ilvl
yes
thx
i hate opening logs and everyone has mythic class trinket or mythic beacon
and im crying with this shit

Ahh ok.
you have a 447 bomb dispenser
why u cryin 
FR
just get a heroic class trinket 
it has not dropped for me
skill issue

Why do we call the neltherion trinket "class trinket"
cause there's 3 versions of it and which one you can use is based on your class
we should just call it suffering
man if only i had a trinket to see that for myself
lol
Our 2nd warlock FINALLY got his on normal yesterday
Ohhhhhh gotcha
Took me 3 runs to get spoils for my rat priest
Well you can stop playing as you won the video game.
That's the highest possible currently right?
looks like it
Missing the new dagger :)
Ilvl wise sure, dps wise nah
Ah. I myself made it to 441. I need to bump my bracers to 447(toxic patch) I've been running lariat because I have like 8 or 9 slots currently
Bruh just be glad you even have a bomb dispenser I'm sitting on a normal beacon and a heroic oce
Hey do we have caps for stats or things we wanna aim for. I've been siming pretty much anything new and things seem to change randomly.
Like if I sim ST mastery seems higher and multiple targets Crit goes higher.
I'd rather not change everything between m+ and raid so I tend to favor Crit. But I'm sitting around 38% Crit and 52% mastery.
Also bomb over beacon
Wafting loses it’s value as soon as fight is not purely ST?
I should go 2xSophic for Sark prog?
no specific targets, trust the robot
crit / mast will be fine for all content
sims like some haste for ST
vers can pull ahead of some of those if you have very high crit
Nocco rogues really on one
thinkin about giving sin another go in the next few weeks, working on getting another dagger.
Question though - do you all play sin in m+ content too or do you off spec sub/law?
I play sin in all content but I’m the exception more than the rule
hmm my main concern is stat distribution - im geared for law right now.
I don't really like playing sub so play sin/law is an option but Im concerned about stat weights
crit good for both
i played outlaw in full sin stats all of s1 and it was fine
robot might want you to grab some haste for sin
but it's not that big of a deal
ahh ok - when I get that dagger ill swap and see how it plays out
starting to move out of high vers might be the only change that could be big gains
yea Im sitting on a ton of vers right now
but sin stats run kinda close
it's nbd
at very high crit/mast robot starts to like vers again
I like playing sub in m+ because my heavy crit/mast build for ass translates well. Just need to drop a bit of haste for the gearset
yea im also considering just biting the bullet and learning how to play sub
ive mained outlaw for so long it feels nice and home but im getting bored so I wanna take some time to actually learn the other specs
don't join them ..
i ❤️ rogues of all specs except those awful KiR builds
but, does KiR love you?
I wonder if theorycrafters get unlimited iterations on raidbots? 🤔
most have a account thats equal to the highest premium tier
so not unlimited, but a very generous limit
feelycrafters don't even need iterations or raidbots
it does not
i think
is bis, its nature damage and we have amps for that, so must be rly good (feel crafting, its not that great if you look at sims)
Should have gotten the dagger
oh really?
is there an easier way to input gear into top gear that you don't own?
H lucky
Yes
Brother I paid 300k for the trinket
Yoink the string off of wowhead
Went into raid pumped to blast
Yep.

You got finessed by the sims
BiS weekly lockout trinket?
Damn theorycrafters at it again
Good chance you don't see it drop again for 10 weeks.
We’re dagger farming 
Its one of six items on the loot table. Good luck.
It’s second boss right?
Yep.
At least there’s that
only need to kill 2 bosses
not saying that you should leave after
Oh I’m 1000000% only killing two bosses a week
# trinket1=,id=155881,bonus_id=6652/9144/9329/3307/8767```
does anything in bonus_id matter?
Rogues can rip 3 items off that boss. So you've gotta be the one in five who gets loot on the boss, and then it has to be the one in three items that's any good.
On a weekly lockout.
Cringe
Well I figured once I get the item in there, raidbots and change the ilvl with the lil dropdown box
Yeah as long as right track. Then nah ur golden
seems no upgrade for me
Shoot, having just the ID is a no go
Added ```# Beacon
trinket1=,id=203963``` and no upgrade arrow
Mobile so forgive
Simulation craft import string
Also below the item, you can adjust ilvl and etc
you can else just copy/paste the text file from #tc-research (pin)
it has the names in it
Oh that's handy, thanks for that info!
I was messing around with the bonus_ids and ended up with a ilvl 802 beacon, oof
and you can easily just change item level like i show in the video
i don't have the names in the crafted gear list, but you always craft on max ^^
I see I see, yee I was close! just needed to add the ilevel string
Ahh yeah I never use weekly
(weekly does not include the implementation of timestrike)
Unless there’s a massive fuck up
Which has happened like one night in almost 4 years
weekly is usually fine, but trinekt implementations get updated/added still
so nightly is the better option
once things are more stable, it does not matter usually
thanks again for showing me those top gear text files fuu
is it too risky/busted to always use latest?
lol i never simmed nightly XD
its fine usually, discord usually lets you know if there is a problem in nightly
!sims
Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html
!whispyr
Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev
me too man
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/quy6wcYLHALMJyir6jwDu9 @vestal wren idd 1055 dps increase
I was like if I get both trinket + dagger I can copium the dps loss from swapping away from sub
because 6s dance is miserable
nice
and goes against my entire brain function
I think I just perma afk until 10.2, hope for a good rework, if it doesn't come, swap mains
thanks again fuu
also oxi im still waiting on them sims 😄 /s
ngl I forgot what I was supposed to sim
I'm old I have bad memory
I know I promised to sim something for you
if that's any consolation
think its fair to complain
rofl it was over a month ago im just messin with ya
assassination is def. in a weird spot
yeah the weird spot is you can't even use the execute copium anymore
when before you could be like "yeah but execute damage gud"
when it was never terrible and had some niches but also isn't as good as a generalist spec and never was strong enough in the niches to make it extremely appealing
e.g. first raid, execute was nice on raz
You mean less single target than AoE specs and no aoe at all isn't strong?
With a clunky weird rotation around CD timings that don't line up?
but sub was just always good on the fight, and even tho it wouldn't do the same damage during the execute, it was in general the better option
sark mythic, assasination possibly the best rogue spec, still rogue in general not that good and sub slightly more dynamic
in addition to all the crunch systems that did benefit sub/outlaw more
!sheet
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz
Yep
the problem with outlaw and sub is they both can't utialize the haste buff well
lets go babyyy
rogue in general would probably fall out of the raid comp if atrophic was valued less by raid leads
sandglass is now
sandass
(it was oversimming, got fixed and is now worse than mirror on all 3)
what
btw
for sark
is it actually value to take wound poison as outlaw/sub?
tell the DH to stop being a pussy
ands i was like
and spec into his MS
"bruh im assa"
Man is punching the air rn
EVERYDAY I WAKE UP AND SOMETHING IS OVERSIMMING
OR BUGGED
what did i miss there
Wait until you guys hear about timestrike
the pet autos might be oversimming
timestrike is fine
wdym
(Nothing is wrong we like to spread misinformation on the internet)
Mirror absolutely tho
sooo, the mirror is probs not that great aswell?
We will see

write your congressman about making blizzard put gear vendors on every PTR
now it's the fun game of locating logs to substantiate the sims
because god forbid I can log into PTR and buy the item and test it
that would just make sense
can i write to them first to delete augvoker and never think about anything like that again?
NOBODY SAW IT COMMING
NOBODY

so is anything good
the dagger


















