#assassination

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balmy condor
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oxi are you like michael jackson

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(I have like 15 punchlines and I'm only allowed to say maybe 2)

gilded oasis
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(dont make me post you on twitter)

spice spire
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Technically

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You can say it all

gusty mirage
spice spire
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But you shouldn’t

balmy condor
gusty mirage
balmy condor
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gottem

gusty mirage
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don't ask why I have that saved

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because I don't know

spice spire
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Why do you have that saved

gusty mirage
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damn the education quality in tennessee is hardly a ten

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mfers can't read

gilded oasis
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goodbye oxi

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dont let the bed bugs bite

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or do

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idk

gusty mirage
balmy condor
spice spire
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Zar about to unleash a twitlonger from heck

spice spire
gusty mirage
balmy condor
spice spire
gusty mirage
spice spire
balmy condor
spice spire
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You told zine “league is a disease get well soon” more or less

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That was an absolute banger

gusty mirage
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Is he wrong though

spice spire
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No he’s not ICANT

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Can’t wait for the next drunk whispyr overnight message

balmy condor
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is one of the drunk whispyr quotes of all time

spice spire
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Context

balmy condor
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that's it

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that's the context

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I was drunk

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and I said that sentence

gilded oasis
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he looked down

spice spire
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I think my favorite bit of the whole thing was first message: “you’re so nice you’re an inspiration.”
Second person;
“Holy fuck you’re a ****.”
Third person:
“You’re dumb as fuck, but me too.”

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Truly a blessing

balmy condor
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I would never say something that needed bleeping

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I'm not that guy

spice spire
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You’re him

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Himothy buckets

misty holly
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I read that some loot from the new dungeon can drop on the myth track if you kill it on hardmode. Does that mean we can get a 447 timestrike dagger?

balmy condor
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no

spice spire
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Only final boss

misty holly
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ahh dang.

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I wonder if 10.2 is going to have more timestrike loot. Seems like coming up with a whole keyword just for a couple weapons is weird

balmy condor
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would be on brand for blizzard

gilded oasis
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tell that to my annulet

balmy condor
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spend a billion dev hours on something with potential, scrap it the next patch/tier/expansion for fun and re-introduce a watered down version, players don't like the watered down version because it's worse, "we hear feedback", add some needed QoL, phase it out completely, repeat from the top

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that's basically been the blizzard standard operating procedure since legion

spice spire
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You’re right we should have had soulbinds forever

balmy condor
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artifacts? sick, but then watered down at the end of the expac, and reintroduced as azerite armor, not sick. Reintroduced again as generics with soulbinds, all of them were un-inspired and didn't really matter and the conduits were jank the entire time, phased out completely
artifact power? kinda fine, can grind at your own pace, but then you're behind, water down with catch up systems and infinite grind nodes, then reintroduce as heart of azeroth levels with island farming
warfronts? islands? decent starting point for new content, made easy and boring, people complained, phased out completely
torghast? sounds cool, decent first ideas, added some new powers, built on it a little, but then took the side game into the main game and oops all choreghast, phased out

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covenant systems for players to associate with a faction? rip

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legendaries? rip, and then back, and then rip, and then maybe back, but probably rip

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tier sets? cool, then removed, then came back (they're really boring now)

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blizzard actually makes it a point to roll out first-pass interesting concepts for systems

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and then refuse to build on them ever again

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every fucking expac like clockwork

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they just altf4 all the progress they made on a given system in the last 3 years

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and just start from scratch

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I will never understand it

blazing jewel
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catching strays smh

balmy condor
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it's insane to me that you can design an mmo, a game genre with a foundation of being a live-service game for over a decade, someties multi-decade

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and you just make it a point to delete your work every couple years for fun

golden ravine
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It's probably a way to keep development "fresh" as well for player retention, game industry has changed a lot since it came out. Look at other games that have released multiple sequels for longer.

balmy condor
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path of exile releases 4 expansions a year and a vast majority of them go into the core game, maplestory has been around 18 years and the basically the entire game is based off horizontal progression

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both of them have strong growing playerbases over the last 5 years

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I get the freshness

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but would it be so bad to just take like

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1 good thing of an expansion forward

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instead of milling it into sand at the end of an expac and building a shitty sand castle v2 every time

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the promotional stuff for islands and warfronts in bfa were especially meme-worthy because they were marketing their new super-ai pvp characters

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and what happened to that

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just poofed

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into thin air

drifting cloud
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chatgpt was made form that tech fr

runic hinge
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like sands in an hourglass

balmy condor
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they're like we want to make more interesting pve encounters, so we made an entire new thing for enemies. They have personalities now, some are aggressive, some are passive, some will go gank you, others will play the objectives. It's different every time and we can control the difficulty and it's super cool

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uses it once in side-content 5 years ago

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I mean even if it's just "keeping the game fresh"

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they showed off new tech for the engine

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and then just didn't ever use it again

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that doesn't scream "well planned and executed use of resources to me"

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if anything, islands and warfronts are what they should be looking back at if they want to keep the game fresh, it was very different content from what we've ever had, enjoyable for most everyone

golden ravine
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That's blizzard, i don't think they go for well-planned.

balmy condor
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and they made islands into a crazy RNG generated thing

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was it fun grinding it for level 128 of my neck?

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no

gilded oasis
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yes

golden ravine
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Yea, I didn't like bfa, stopped playing it, and barely touched those features

balmy condor
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but the novelty and the randomness of islands themselves

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are actually crazy

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add islands back with dragon-racing scouting missions where you have to survey an island

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idfk

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do something

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but you can have systems that interact and build off each other

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they don't even need to be the main progression of gear or power

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you could add a version of torghast back in using the bronze dragonflight, have it drop some crests or whatever

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would it be the main source of crests or rep or whatever? no of course not

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but it's something that you develop once, and then you just tweak it to fit whatever the current reward structure is so it's not completely irrelevant, and you're good to go

cerulean nest
golden ravine
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With the bronze dragonflight they could do all sorts of playing with time stuff, bringing back systems in an interesting way

balmy condor
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yeh

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I just

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don't have faith that blizzard is able to see that far ahead

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it feels like they're just going patch to patch

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and throwing everything at the wall

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to see what sticks

golden ravine
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their name describes their development style pretty well.

royal lantern
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yeha, blizzard and really bizzare choices, name a more iconic duo

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like

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allied races? just forgoten after BfA, when it was 1of the most sucessfull things from that expansion

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like, just nothing at all

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or the entire "no transmog for dracthyr" thing, who thinks that was a good idea?

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"yeha, they will clip kinda bad, lets just disable it" when everything in the game clips very bad anyway, and people just either ignore it or dont use those things...........?

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thorghast beeing fully ignored when it had quiet a few interesting things, like, after 9.1 throghsat was just gone

thorn fjord
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Bfa had way too much to live up to with legion being it’s predecessor

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I hated bfa tho tbh

rocky ruin
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Thorghast was good in some way, but you needed to run for the legendary shit and then it was a additional weekly

strange python
strange python
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Players also play wow and FF for different reasons.

royal lantern
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"i do 95% dmg of a normal dps, and buff the other guy by 5%"

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thats dancer

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not what ever that clusterfuck that augmenation is

strange python
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I honestly hate every single thing about Aug and I don't know if I'll keep playing the game

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It just screams 'we hate people who try to minmax damage, take this shit bucko'

royal lantern
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its the death of multiple classes/specs

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why even THINK ablut Hunters anymore

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just bring a support and let the anime Protagonist, aka warlock/mage do more dmg

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the amount of comp minmaxing that will happen?

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yeha, say goodbye if you are not a class/spec with a mandatory buff/debuff

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if we get more "supports" it will legit just turn into "bring all mandatory buffs(with "supports" if possible ofc) and them stack "supports" so that the REAL dps, aka warlock/mage do dmg, sucks to be the rest"

strange python
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It's wild to me that no one at blizzard stopped and thought "is this actually fun for anyone who isn't the evoker or the class they're buffing"

royal lantern
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they are always skewed with that

balmy condor
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if they just spread it out a little

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and you could get them like crests

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where you don't feel forced to do it

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torg would've been miles better already

strange python
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I mean. Sure, it's theoretically fun to have a support juice the fuck out of a warlock who pops off. But uhh, what about everyone else

balmy condor
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when its designed to be a chore, it's gonna suck

royal lantern
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in blizzards eyes, Pi is a great ability because "omg i buff a warlock and he does INSANE dmg!!!!! its such a cool team effort"

players meanwhile stand there like "allright, that warlock gets pi, he is always top dps cus of it, no contest at all, and the other warlock can suck it up because he doesnt get it, why is that a thing?"

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same with their great new "supports"

strange python
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Or: you run 2-4 priests for more PIs.

royal lantern
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ita not even a "support" cus many classes/specs wont ever get any buffs from them

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it litearlly just translates into " 4people are heroes, the rest suck it up losers"

scarlet orbit
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that i really dont get why not give the stuff to everyone and lower the numbers from it

stiff geode
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Warrior shout at me daddy support class when

rocky ruin
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i always thought shaman would be support with drums etc.

royal lantern
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i legit cant understand how they thought it is a good idea in any form

Pi alone is 1of the biggest sources of drama i ever saw in a videogame, nobody likes Pi, not even the classes that get it cus they are somewhat balanced around Pi, priests themself hate it cus of how annoying all the Pi talk is and getting spammed about it

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and then?

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"suck it up, we double down"

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like, i really wonder how the casual playerbase will react to it, simply cus their beloved Hunters are the first to go by default peeposhrug

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and i absolutely HATE how it double downs on raid teamcomps beeing extremely narrow with 0 room for other options if they decide to expand their "supports" instead of realising how much of an mistake they are

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raidteam will litearlly be 100% set in stone at that point

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not Like as if raiding is allready struggeling with players cus of time comitment+class/spec blocks kekman

scarlet orbit
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how does stacking augmentation evokers work ?

royal lantern
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wdym?

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they stack, simple as that lol

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no diminishing returns or anything like that, if you mean that

scarlet orbit
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i hoped there is some issues with stacking them so there is not 2 or 3 augmentations evoker per raid

balmy condor
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which you want to try and avoid

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as well as like healers/tanks

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but aside from that

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no reason not to stack

strange python
visual hemlock
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i hate going to bed thinking i gained 2k dps with new trinket just so i wake up and lose it again 😄

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Will not be surprised if new dagger oversimms too

strange python
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We confirmed dagger sims right.

balmy condor
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yes

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dagger is good

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hourglass is fixed now

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mirror I'm not sold on

visual hemlock
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at least we dont need to do whole dungeon, just 2 bosses

balmy condor
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just the second boss actually

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dagger seems like the only thing worth a damn from what it looks like

royal lantern
strange python
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Unless you have a group with you, don't be the guy who leaves after your boss is dead

balmy condor
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oh I'm gonna be that guy pal

visual hemlock
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same

royal lantern
balmy condor
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I don't play a rogue because of my strong moral compass and unbreakable mental fortitude

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I go in, I kill second boss

sharp viper
balmy condor
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it doesn't drop dagger

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I alt+f4

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smash a monster

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and then punch a hole through my door

balmy condor
sharp viper
balmy condor
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idk, is there a bug with it in game?

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it should sim accurate to the game now

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but if there's an issue that we don't know of

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then idk

sharp viper
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ah okay, so it was overperforming in the sim

visual hemlock
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all these caster classes get augment buff from evokers, mages blasting, warlocks blasting everything blasting

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and here we have us rogues

sharp viper
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we get some benefit from windfurries!

visual hemlock
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if you are in windfury group

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yes

royal lantern
visual hemlock
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5 man group windfury and the rest of melee would just rather be benched

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no need to bring more

sharp viper
balmy condor
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what did you sim with

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weekly?

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nightly?

sharp viper
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oh was still on weekly

balmy condor
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guess who gets to run the sim again

blazing jewel
balmy condor
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you lucky dog

sharp viper
blazing jewel
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get back in the queue buddy

sharp viper
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I'm stupid

balmy condor
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hi stupid

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I'm dad

deft flicker
sharp viper
balmy condor
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I would need money for that

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I don't make money brother

drifting cloud
royal lantern
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wdym money, he asked for sugar

blazing jewel
balmy condor
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sugar is a good that can be exchanged for money

quiet oar
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I mean if you are assa Main

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And He wants you as daddy

deft flicker
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Moments like this I wanna go to Kharanos, buy some Thunder Ale, sit on a pier in stealth and reflect on my life choices, while warlocks get to vibe over a new class quest chain

quiet oar
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Will. This make you

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Daddy ass

royal lantern
balmy condor
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what the fuck are you on about

drifting cloud
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dwarf rp

sharp viper
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awww, dagger is an upgrade though

deft flicker
balmy condor
# royal lantern elaborate

well you see, money can be used to purchase, as well as sell various things in todays society. It could be a service, such as me sucking your toes, or a good, in this case a physical commodity such as sugar

stiff geode
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Yall mfs need go sleep

deft flicker
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Now it’s almost 10am, I had some more sleep but still it feels sour

balmy condor
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I ain't going anywhere

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it's only gonna get worse

stiff geode
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Well in that case I go sleep >:D

blazing jewel
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no sleep

balmy condor
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kinda rude lowkey

deft flicker
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Gnight

stiff geode
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I'm sorries

keen spruce
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+23s with aug evokers feel like +17s

balmy condor
keen spruce
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the healers just triage and no one takes any damage

deft flicker
blazing jewel
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which ball

balmy condor
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the bigger one

deft flicker
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||you’re probably right, this feels like an outlaw moment||

deft flicker
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They’re round

blazing jewel
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nice

royal lantern
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they want me to say degenerate stuff

sharp viper
stiff geode
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I'd say the balls are more like a bean

gaunt moat
royal lantern
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yeha, because it isnt....?

gaunt moat
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@blazing jewel
So like... any reason you're not taking 3 points in zoldyck for echo?

royal lantern
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classes are balanced around having the normal mandatory buffs notter, i know that lol

gaunt moat
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I'm not sure what to do

blazing jewel
gaunt moat
blazing jewel
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is 3pt zold better

royal lantern
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idk, i played the normal assa build lol

blazing jewel
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I have no idea

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I was pressing buttons

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and hoping some of them did damage

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idk if I would recommend my log for a study session lol

deft flicker
royal lantern
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juat like me fr

gaunt moat
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yeah, because phase 1 and 2 damage don't matter, i'm thinking zolydic is better

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but none of the sins took that

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so i don't know what i should do

blazing jewel
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for a prog kill

deft flicker
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I’d say take it

blazing jewel
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idk if you will make the boss go damage immune in p2

gaunt moat
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like, how do i even compare one extra point in zoldyck to shourded suffocation

royal lantern
blazing jewel
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3pt zold probably better for prog then

gaunt moat
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it was immune for a few seconds

blazing jewel
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I think at that point

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you would just run an execute sim for the average p3 fight length duration

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and compare them

sharp viper
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is echo progress fun as sin?

quiet oar
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I mean with zodyck you can execute your mates even fastee

blazing jewel
quiet oar
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Weakaura and macro

blazing jewel
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you will prog it exactly as quick as your ranged learn their spots and people learn P3 spots

gaunt moat
royal lantern
blazing jewel
gaunt moat
quiet oar
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How many tries after the 1.5 yesterday?

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Where i told you you will have another 40

blazing jewel
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standard

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3pt zold

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kinda weird to pull data from

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because you wont go into p3 with everything up

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I think I normally send sepsis on the 3rd add

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and vanish dm I think

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I forgot

gaunt moat
blazing jewel
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also 3m is a bit over

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its like 2:15 2:30 for most kills

gaunt moat
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i can tell you exactly how long it took us to get to 1.5, let's see

quiet oar
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Becauss people cant read a fucking map

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Or press a macro

gaunt moat
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yeah it should abe about 2:30 minutes that he's under 35%

royal lantern
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WA NOT WORKING IDK WHY

quiet oar
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Its so annoyinf

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To progress an outside mechanic

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I mean if people could fucking read. Wa not working wouldnt be a Problem

blazing jewel
gaunt moat
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no

quiet oar
blazing jewel
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the fade away resto shaman meatball

gaunt moat
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i fully expect to have something similar with the way my raid handles portals.
like, after 3rd blast, half or more are dead.

blazing jewel
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maybe save cloak for something like that then idk

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I normall just send mine during my dm in p3 now

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and skip the boom that happens during it

gaunt moat
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yes, i use cloak on 2nd blast

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no reason not to, i'm not gonna do more damage if i cloak to survive a 5th blast and then die immidiatly to melee attack by boss

sharp viper
blazing jewel
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I thought he was going to melee me but he never did lol

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he just started casting again

sharp viper
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better evasion than dead to boss/add melee attacks

blazing jewel
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he just gave me a big look

gaunt moat
blazing jewel
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are you dying in p2 ever

gaunt moat
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that defently is not gonna help do more damage than standing on boss and hitting him with all CD + pot

blazing jewel
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can send a cloak during any of the slightly bad overlaps in early-mid p2

gaunt moat
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i used cloak at 6:26, so earliest i can use is 4:20~
let's see what happens there

quiet oar
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Thats the Gate overlap

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Which is pretty deadly

gaunt moat
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nah, that

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that's still on 2nd add

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there's no real risk there

quiet oar
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We had so many death

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At the 2nd add

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Its crazy

blazing jewel
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that was a prog point for us when we were on nelth

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the gate to second add overlap

gaunt moat
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yes, when moving to him we had many wipes.
usually because friendly fire

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even yesterday, frost makge NUKED me for 250k with a single hit.

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with glacial spike i think?

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something that cleaves

blazing jewel
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bro lol

quiet oar
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Have they considered

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Not pressing buttons

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For 5 secs

royal lantern
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its not even 5seconds

sharp viper
royal lantern
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thats the fun part

sharp viper
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the answer to everything

gaunt moat
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"why did you hit me"
"why didn't you cloak? kekw "

quiet oar
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on Prog

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WITH DMG STOPS

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Are the worst

royal lantern
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but MY PARSES

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fuck off, parses are a joke anyway

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Pi made it worse

quiet oar
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Thats why our first kills are private

royal lantern
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sUpPoRt sPeCs made them worthless

gaunt moat
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tbh I could never play aug
not seeing myself on damage meters would be demotivating

sharp viper
grim tree
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
deft flicker
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Or make a separate bar of “this is how much an Auggie is contributing by buffing”

gaunt moat
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they stated they don't plan to

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they like it that it looks like he's not doing dps cause he's a support

royal lantern
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EVERYTHING about that spec is a gigantic L

gaunt moat
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they said "he makes other's number big"

royal lantern
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like

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legit EVRRYTHING

deft flicker
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I’ve seen people already get blamed for auggie’s low personal DPS on Reddit

gaunt moat
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yeah lol, i ran into that last night OMEGAKEKW

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joined a megadungeon group

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we wiped

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tank asks evoker "why are you doing zero dps and healing"

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evoker says: "I'm augmentor"

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tank says "okay so? why are you doing zero dps and healing?"

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i told him he is clueless and left

deft flicker
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Humans taking another L against reading comprehension

gaunt moat
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it's a new spec type, so i understrand the confusion.
but i want to play with people that do a minimum of research about the game

deft flicker
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Same

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Which becomes even more hilarious if you think about how good an auggie can be in MDI-style pulls

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And suddenly it’s on everyone’s screens. And everyone wants one. But nobody really understands why because auggie doesn’t blast on its own

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The chaos

normal mist
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The fact details do not show their actual dps (personal + given) doesn't help

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People can't understand what a "support" is

deft flicker
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Yep

sharp viper
deft flicker
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No need to attribute it to auggie, make given DPS a separate bar, like Kyrian Weapons or Sanguine Ichor has

sharp viper
gaunt moat
sharp viper
royal lantern
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It will be stacked

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togheter with firemage

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and spriest

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absolute suprise

sharp viper
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whoa

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mind = blown

royal lantern
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delete augvoker

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just straight up delete

quiet oar
royal lantern
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failed concept

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go again

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dont try out shit you cant handle blizz

sharp viper
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maybe some other dps and a disc priest healer to spice things up

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which is probably also gonna lose

scarlet orbit
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its kinda funny they struggle to balance PI but decided to make a whole class wich buffs stuff

deft flicker
sharp viper
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wouldn't PI giving haste value based on the class/spec it's on be a way to balance it? just tune the individual haste values then - like demo lock gets 14% while others get 20%

blazing jewel
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that would be borderline impossible

royal lantern
quiet oar
balmy condor
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Doing it in real time like details does is terribly difficult for details and any dps meter

royal lantern
sharp viper
gaunt moat
deft flicker
scarlet orbit
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just delete the talent who gives pi to you and another and shadow is already alot more balanced then it is

blazing jewel
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yea that

quiet oar
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I mean everyone could get a use of that than

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So that its not a by default UH or WL buff

blazing jewel
balmy condor
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Make PI give a fraction of all your stats combined

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Instead of 10% haste

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It’s 25% of your haste converted back

quiet oar
balmy condor
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Super not convoluted

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And very easy to understand

deft flicker
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PI ME IM ABOUT TO CALL IN THE HOMIE I NEED THAT CRIT BRO PI ME

sharp viper
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so give PI to the person with the highest ilvl?

balmy condor
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And then it scales off trinkets

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So you give it to the person with the most procs at any given time

quiet oar
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OR

balmy condor
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Poooogggggg

blazing jewel
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dude a person in my guild said why did someone pi scana and I said I didnt even know I had it. Response was "how dont you know you have pi"

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he doesnt know the rogue struggle

sharp viper
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and with the highest amount of single stat

quiet oar
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You cant Pi anyone except yourself

balmy condor
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Idiot check

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Imagine stats doing anything

blazing jewel
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he doesnt know about the fixed gcd kekw

sharp viper
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now the gcd was 1s instead of 1s

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very noticeable

balmy condor
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Yeah and it’s during my cooldowns where I’m at 400000 energy

#

So now instead of overcapping 300 energy during Deathmark

#

I’m overcapping 400

#

Super noticeable

spice surge
#

You are truly being infused with power

royal lantern
#

dont oversell 25% haste pls

deft flicker
#

Autoattacks though

balmy condor
#

Wish they could infuse me with the power of noticing a difference when I make large changes to my gear

deft flicker
balmy condor
#

The biggest thing I notice about my gear is channeling a dumb box for 2 seconds

sharp viper
deft flicker
royal lantern
#

i wish they could infuse me with the power to keep going

blazing jewel
blazing jewel
#

why did you cut him in half

bronze pike
#

He’s to powerful to be completed

cobalt hemlock
#

lost 447 bomba to brewmaster monk.

royal lantern
#

good

#

he will do more dmg with it anyway

misty holly
royal lantern
#

nah, brm just has more things that interact with trinkets to boost them iirc

scarlet orbit
#

didnt they also lose most of that stuff what interacted with trinkets the same patch rogue lost some?

blissful forge
celest ruin
#

i got simbaited by the new trinket rip

#

no wonder i was doing less than before

#

cant even go past 220k on assault

balmy condor
#

yeah surely that's why

#

it's that damned 1500 dps my trinket was oversimming

#

that's why I'm parsing blue

#

damned sims

#

am I right

quiet prairie
#

Ironically we didn’t get anything this patch, and those classes got buffed

blazing jewel
#

Rogue is fine

#

Wait until mini rework Okay

balmy condor
quiet prairie
blazing jewel
balmy condor
#

idk

woeful meteor
balmy condor
#

what if

#

you tell me

quiet prairie
#

What if the tank is hyper active hahaha

balmy condor
#

yeah

#

what if the tank is hyper active

blazing jewel
#

plink tank plink help plink my plink poison plink bomb plink is plink ticking plink for plink 300dps plink

balmy condor
#

does your character instantly explode into a puff of smoke and all your damage is gone

#

mine doesn't do that idk

quiet prairie
#

Listen.. the only reason we sin one tricks keep up, is cuz we played the spec for so long, some just have it easier 😌 giv buf

balmy condor
#

that's just not how that works

blazing jewel
#

I have literally never specced sin in raid until 2 days before the small aura buff we got

quiet prairie
#

Ahh, I only play sin regardless of our situation

balmy condor
#

if you're going to be delusional at least recognize it

#

the voices in my head get real loud sometimes too

#

it's okay

#

happens

quiet prairie
#

Whispyr invent us a new talent tree route for ST i enjoy your guides 🫶🏼

balmy condor
#

I did

#

I gave you sepsis

quiet prairie
spice surge
#

I showed you my sepsis pls respond

woeful meteor
#

Jetlag increasing the volume of the voices

blazing jewel
balmy condor
#

and then ate breakfast

#

and took a nap

#

and now I ate lunch

#

and I'm sleepy

#

I'm so giga fucked

blazing jewel
#

Beer gardens tonight hmmNod

woeful meteor
#

I wope up at 10 am today to watch apex lan and then it was delayed by 90 min starege

#

could have slept 30% more

blazing jewel
#

30% more monkahmm

#

Too much math

woeful meteor
#

slept 3 from 7 to 10

#

actually 50%

#

studying comp sci btw dead

blazing jewel
#

For the sole purpose of making weakauras and apls right

woeful meteor
#

thought it was fun when I started completely lost when it comes to both aside from simple things

peak lake
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
gusty mirage
blazing jewel
gusty mirage
#

Some of us have real jobs to get to

#

We don’t all get to play matchbox cars into our adult lives

blazing jewel
slow tulip
#

jobs in 2023 :^)

slim hamlet
#

couldn't be me

keen spruce
#

I'm in a Agile certification course all day Nerdge

slim hamlet
#

wtf is that

keen spruce
#

IT stuff

slow tulip
#

sounded like a sensitivity training to me

#

xD

slim hamlet
#

oh

#

in danish it's an athletic thing, so i was confused about the nerdge

storm belfry
keen spruce
#

yeah it's the name of the of development methodology

#

8 hours today on a zoom call and 8 hours tomrrow PES_HahaDead

#

based

#

but i need the course to allow for a CSM certification

woeful meteor
#

Chainsaw Man certification noted

spice spire
#

Weeb

main vessel
spice spire
marble hemlock
blazing jewel
ashen rover
#

2 mirrors dropped and the shaman gave it to the prot warrior starege

storm belfry
pure moth
#

2 dropped in my run and i convinced someone to trade it. It doesnt do as much damage as beacon/bomb though. So baffled at how it should be better in dslice

spice surge
#

It gives you stats

storm belfry
pure moth
#

True

blissful forge
#

eeeeeeasy

faint jacinth
#

zoom calls dead

spice spire
#

Only 2 hours on call today then patient rooms all day yeah

keen spruce
storm belfry
#

Only 2 hrs of work a day then I sit in the office watching twitch or playing mobile games for 6 hrs

keen spruce
#

and i'm doin keys

storm belfry
#

Holy based

spice spire
storm belfry
#

It’s very slow at my job currently

#

Only busy on weekends

dusk summit
#

Oh ok. That makes sense.

storm belfry
#

I mean I take calls sometimes during those 6 hrs but not a lot. Or respond to emails. But I don’t consider that work when it’s like 3 or 4 maybe out of 6 hrs

#

Lmao

#

It’s okay once it hits like September I’ll be busy til January

dusk summit
#

To bad you can't just go home after those 2hrs

storm belfry
#

Yeah if only I could work from home

#

Debated on buying a laptop to game at work but Shrugeg

dusk summit
#

Yah me too

storm belfry
#

My wife works from home. Lucky

pseudo hamlet
#

I'd rather kill myself than work from home

strange python
#

I love work from home.

#

Don't have to get dressed in anything but sweatpants. Go for walks whenever I want. Hang out with my dog

odd notch
#

!sims

prisma monolithBOT
odd notch
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
pseudo hamlet
strange python
#

Friends and activities

#

Pickleball league, volunteer work, bars with friends

#

I hear u tho

dusk summit
sweet dawn
#

When bomb dispenser + anvil sims best for you but you don't want to drop bacon

dusk summit
#

I want bomb dispenser so bad 😦
I'm running a 441 anvil and a 437 Iridius fragment.

gaunt moat
agile osprey
keen spruce
#

I'll have my CSM within the week hopefully Nerdge

agile osprey
keen spruce
#

i'll be the master of your scrum bby

agile osprey
#

I need a PM... period. I'm effectively a 1 man department for a medium sized sf org and hate talking to end users

#

So plz apply

keen spruce
#

send me details i've been out of work for like 8 months KEK

#

and by out of work i mean i quit my job in novemeber and have been playing wow like a degenerate

agile osprey
#

Atta boy

#

and on second thought, none of my bosses know what I actually do. So when I say "That'll be 2 weeks", there are no questions asked

faint jacinth
#

They don't have to ask questions either it's private

keen spruce
#

and get paid like twice as much as you

#

and you could go about your business

#

win win

agile osprey
keen spruce
#

i'll give you kickbacks off my salary Dabgers

agile osprey
#

I accept payment in the form of subway

keen spruce
#

oh u want that $5 dollar footlong?

agile osprey
#

More like $15 footlong now

keen spruce
cerulean nest
#

so my 447 anvil outsims my 441 beacon by like 500

#

should I still be taking beacon

#

what's the logic there

subtle tundra
keen spruce
#

anvil pretty gud

subtle tundra
#

I hate reading

keen spruce
#

at high ilvl

agile osprey
#

Yeah but them bacon crits

keen spruce
#

true and real

#

and you can't kill your friends on nelth

cerulean nest
#

that's what I'm asking

keen spruce
#

with an anvil

cerulean nest
#

sims don't count for beacon crits? or like

keen spruce
#

it factors them in

#

the sim dps is like an average

#

of many thousands of iterations

#

but it's not gonna show you like the highest highroll of crits

cerulean nest
#

so the reason everyone chooses beacon over anvil is because of the potential for full crits

keen spruce
#

no they choose it cuz it's better

#

but your anvil is 447

agile osprey
#

Oh btw shmeeps my guild likes your bomb wa so much that I got our hunters and boomies using those other ones you made

keen spruce
#

oh the moonkin form and where's your fren?

agile osprey
#

indeed

keen spruce
#

the moonkin one is so fuckin obnoxious if you install the sound file

#

it just spams a fart noise over and over

agile osprey
#

LOL

keen spruce
#

until you go back into form

#

at all times

#

I didn't add any load in combat stuff to it

dusk summit
#

Is the Iridius fragment simming correctly now? I thought I saw somewhere it was high by like 18%

keen spruce
#

no

#

it's still wrong

#

just get good trinkets and forget fragment exists

runic hinge
agile osprey
#

So the heroic nelth's trinket drops on myth path?

#

Cause if so I really shouldnt have passed

keen spruce
#

delete your message before whispyr sees it and blows a blood vessel in his head

misty holly
#

If you were going to pass on the 444 version I'm not sure 3 more ilevel would change anything

keen spruce
#

well he shouldn't have passed on the 444 anyway smadge

runic hinge
agile osprey
#

But not as a pirate

keen spruce
#

dice gud

#

probably most consistent

#

i only have 441 dice tho

#

my vault had 3 447 cloaks this week KEK

dusk summit
agile osprey
#

I mean just look at this juicy dice proc during my opener for R1 normal Kazz

dusk summit
#

Hey now that's not part of the assassin. Get that hate outa here

🙂

slow tulip
#

does this mirror trinket from last boss on hard mode sim bis for you too ? xD

agile osprey
#

No, it simmed worse than every other competitive trinket at 441 for me

#

But I still want it

#

for reasons

reef crow
#

Fragment still over simming yes?

keen spruce
#

@dusk summit you could check the blootmallet trinket list for assas, take 18% off of fragment there and see how it lines up with other stuff you ahve at that ilvl

keen spruce
reef crow
#

thx

boreal valley
#

i hate opening logs and everyone has mythic class trinket or mythic beacon

#

and im crying with this shit

keen spruce
#

why u cryin mad

agile osprey
#

FR

boreal valley
#

because everyone in this screenshot has better trinkets than me

keen spruce
#

DAMN HARD LIFE WITH YOUR MYTHIC BOMB DISPENSER

boreal valley
#

they have mythic bomb dispenser and mythic beacon/class trinket pain

#

I am greedy

agile osprey
#

This fucking guy

#

Eat the rich

keen spruce
#

just get a heroic class trinket pat_smile

boreal valley
keen spruce
#

skill issue

boreal valley
#

I choose to blame my trinkets

agile osprey
#

Blame this

boreal valley
dusk summit
#

Why do we call the neltherion trinket "class trinket"

boreal valley
#

cause there's 3 versions of it and which one you can use is based on your class

keen spruce
#

we should just call it suffering

boreal valley
keen spruce
#

cuz it has like 12% uptime on every kill pull

#

and 40% uptime on every wipe

boreal valley
#

man if only i had a trinket to see that for myself

brazen zodiac
#

lol

agile osprey
#

Our 2nd warlock FINALLY got his on normal yesterday

dusk summit
#

Ohhhhhh gotcha

keen spruce
#

I got it in my first vault on my rat warlock

agile osprey
#

Took me 3 runs to get spoils for my rat priest

dusk summit
#

Well you can stop playing as you won the video game.

agile osprey
#

our spriest still dont have it

boreal valley
#

this is illegal

#

calling me the rich when nocni exists

ripe relic
#

That's the highest possible currently right?

keen spruce
#

looks like it

limber lion
#

Ilvl wise sure, dps wise nah

ripe relic
#

Ah. I myself made it to 441. I need to bump my bracers to 447(toxic patch) I've been running lariat because I have like 8 or 9 slots currently

idle inlet
dusk summit
#

Hey do we have caps for stats or things we wanna aim for. I've been siming pretty much anything new and things seem to change randomly.

Like if I sim ST mastery seems higher and multiple targets Crit goes higher.

I'd rather not change everything between m+ and raid so I tend to favor Crit. But I'm sitting around 38% Crit and 52% mastery.

strange python
winter gale
#

Wafting loses it’s value as soon as fight is not purely ST?

#

I should go 2xSophic for Sark prog?

limber lion
#

Honestly doesn't matter

#

As long as you have some kind of enchant on

burnt latch
#

My personal favorite is the shadowlands enchants

#

They have best flare to them

keen spruce
#

crit / mast will be fine for all content

#

sims like some haste for ST

#

vers can pull ahead of some of those if you have very high crit

spice spire
#

Nocco rogues really on one

sour elm
#

thinkin about giving sin another go in the next few weeks, working on getting another dagger.

Question though - do you all play sin in m+ content too or do you off spec sub/law?

spice spire
#

I play sin in all content but I’m the exception more than the rule

sour elm
#

hmm my main concern is stat distribution - im geared for law right now.

I don't really like playing sub so play sin/law is an option but Im concerned about stat weights

keen spruce
#

crit good for both

#

i played outlaw in full sin stats all of s1 and it was fine

#

robot might want you to grab some haste for sin

#

but it's not that big of a deal

sour elm
#

ahh ok - when I get that dagger ill swap and see how it plays out

keen spruce
#

starting to move out of high vers might be the only change that could be big gains

sour elm
#

yea Im sitting on a ton of vers right now

keen spruce
#

but sin stats run kinda close

#

it's nbd

#

at very high crit/mast robot starts to like vers again

agile osprey
#

I like playing sub in m+ because my heavy crit/mast build for ass translates well. Just need to drop a bit of haste for the gearset

sour elm
#

yea im also considering just biting the bullet and learning how to play sub

#

ive mained outlaw for so long it feels nice and home but im getting bored so I wanna take some time to actually learn the other specs

sour elm
#

i ❤️ rogues of all specs except those awful KiR builds

vestal wren
sour elm
#

KiR wants to karate chop me in half

#

I think

#

Idk KiR is hard to read

stiff geode
#

I wonder if theorycrafters get unlimited iterations on raidbots? 🤔

vestal wren
#

most have a account thats equal to the highest premium tier

#

so not unlimited, but a very generous limit

sharp viper
#

feelycrafters don't even need iterations or raidbots

vestal wren
#

it does not

strange python
#

@gusty mirage I'm sad.

#

Still.

#

About the trinket.

vestal wren
#

i think kingsbane is bis, its nature damage and we have amps for that, so must be rly good (feel crafting, its not that great if you look at sims)

spice spire
stiff geode
#

oh really?

is there an easier way to input gear into top gear that you don't own?

spice spire
#

H lucky

strange python
spice spire
#

Yoink the string off of wowhead

strange python
#

Went into raid pumped to blast

spice spire
#

No shot

strange python
#

Yep.

agile osprey
spice spire
#

You got finessed by the sims

strange python
#

BiS weekly lockout trinket?

spice spire
#

Damn theorycrafters at it again

strange python
#

Good chance you don't see it drop again for 10 weeks.

spice spire
#

We’re dagger farming whispyrsalute

strange python
#

Its one of six items on the loot table. Good luck.

spice spire
#

It’s second boss right?

strange python
#

Yep.

spice spire
#

At least there’s that

vestal wren
#

not saying that you should leave after

spice spire
#

Oh I’m 1000000% only killing two bosses a week

stiff geode
strange python
#

Rogues can rip 3 items off that boss. So you've gotta be the one in five who gets loot on the boss, and then it has to be the one in three items that's any good.

#

On a weekly lockout.

#

Cringe

spice spire
#

Shouldn’t

#

Or wait

#

Are you trying to manipulate the ilvl?

stiff geode
#

Well I figured once I get the item in there, raidbots and change the ilvl with the lil dropdown box

spice spire
#

Yeah as long as right track. Then nah ur golden

woeful wigeon
stiff geode
spice spire
#

Simulation craft import string

#

Also below the item, you can adjust ilvl and etc

vestal wren
#

you can else just copy/paste the text file from #tc-research (pin)

stiff geode
#

Oh that's handy, thanks for that info!

I was messing around with the bonus_ids and ended up with a ilvl 802 beacon, oof

vestal wren
#

and you can easily just change item level like i show in the video

#

i don't have the names in the crafted gear list, but you always craft on max ^^

stiff geode
#

I see I see, yee I was close! just needed to add the ilevel string

vestal wren
#

^ make sure to use nightly

#

the dagger will else not sim correct

spice spire
#

Ahh yeah I never use weekly

vestal wren
#

(weekly does not include the implementation of timestrike)

spice spire
#

Unless there’s a massive fuck up

#

Which has happened like one night in almost 4 years

vestal wren
#

weekly is usually fine, but trinekt implementations get updated/added still

#

so nightly is the better option

#

once things are more stable, it does not matter usually

stiff geode
#

thanks again for showing me those top gear text files fuu

is it too risky/busted to always use latest?

woeful wigeon
vestal wren
upbeat tangle
#

!sims

prisma monolithBOT
upbeat tangle
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
gusty mirage
gusty mirage
#

I was like if I get both trinket + dagger I can copium the dps loss from swapping away from sub

#

because 6s dance is miserable

gusty mirage
#

and goes against my entire brain function

vestal wren
gusty mirage
#

I think I just perma afk until 10.2, hope for a good rework, if it doesn't come, swap mains

stiff geode
#

thanks again fuu

also oxi im still waiting on them sims 😄 /s

gusty mirage
#

ngl I forgot what I was supposed to sim

#

I'm old I have bad memory

#

I know I promised to sim something for you

#

if that's any consolation

vestal wren
#

think its fair to complain

stiff geode
#

rofl it was over a month ago im just messin with ya

vestal wren
#

assassination is def. in a weird spot

gusty mirage
#

yeah the weird spot is you can't even use the execute copium anymore

#

when before you could be like "yeah but execute damage gud"

vestal wren
#

when it was never terrible and had some niches but also isn't as good as a generalist spec and never was strong enough in the niches to make it extremely appealing

#

e.g. first raid, execute was nice on raz

strange python
#

With a clunky weird rotation around CD timings that don't line up?

vestal wren
#

but sub was just always good on the fight, and even tho it wouldn't do the same damage during the execute, it was in general the better option

#

sark mythic, assasination possibly the best rogue spec, still rogue in general not that good and sub slightly more dynamic

#

in addition to all the crunch systems that did benefit sub/outlaw more

strange python
#

I think outlaw is sneakily strong now.

#

Just not on sark

#

Except for pad

vestal wren
#

!sheet

prisma monolithBOT
vestal wren
#

sub/outlaw is now so close on st

#

kinda nuts

strange python
#

Yep

vestal wren
#

the problem with outlaw and sub is they both can't utialize the haste buff well

minor gate
#

lets go babyyy

spice spire
#

they don’t know

vestal wren
#

rogue in general would probably fall out of the raid comp if atrophic was valued less by raid leads

#

sandglass is now

#

sandass

#

(it was oversimming, got fixed and is now worse than mirror on all 3)

minor gate
keen spruce
royal lantern
#

was oversimming

gusty mirage
#

homie missed the pins last night

#

we distracted him with our butt touching talk

gusty mirage
#

what

#

no

#

do you not have a warrior

#

or a DH

#

or a monk

royal lantern
#

the DH asked

gusty mirage
#

tell the DH to stop being a pussy

royal lantern
#

ands i was like

gusty mirage
#

and spec into his MS

royal lantern
#

"bruh im assa"

gusty mirage
#

DHs really do be smoking crack

#

idk

spice spire
minor gate
royal lantern
#

OR BUGGED

gusty mirage
#

wait until we tell you about the mirror

royal lantern
spice spire
#

Wait until you guys hear about timestrike

gusty mirage
#

timestrike is fine

#

wdym

spice spire
#

(Nothing is wrong we like to spread misinformation on the internet)

#

Mirror absolutely tho

royal lantern
#

sooo, the mirror is probs not that great aswell?

spice spire
#

We will see

gusty mirage
#

write your congressman about making blizzard put gear vendors on every PTR

#

now it's the fun game of locating logs to substantiate the sims

#

because god forbid I can log into PTR and buy the item and test it

#

that would just make sense

royal lantern
#

can i write to them first to delete augvoker and never think about anything like that again?

#

NOBODY SAW IT COMMING

#

NOBODY

minor gate
#

so is anything good

royal lantern
#

the dagger

storm belfry
gusty mirage
#

dw you'll likely see 1-2 more trinkets before ever seeing the dagger

#

drops off the same boss

#

just like people told me I was crazy for crafting a 447 dagger first