assassination

[shut owl]

vanish/DM should be aligned in ST scenarios if you follow the opener

only time they can get a bit wacky is a misstep in m+

and then its usually more worth to just rip DM if adds are gonna be up a min rather than waiting for the perfect lineup

[agile osprey]

Mhm accelerating sandglass actually sims pretty good for me

[woeful meteor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1128501175155699812/image.png

[agile osprey]

oh

lmao

[woeful meteor]

maybe it's actually that good maybe it's bad

[agile osprey]

Yeah i'll probably just chill on my dice for the time being

[gentle apex]

any issues with pocket anvil oversim? 447 version beats out 441 beacon which surprised me a little bit

[keen spruce]

sims are a little sus atm

beacon seems to be simming low

[shut owl]

my beacon is simming the same as last week; not sure what is goin on :/

wait

nvm

wtf; gear compared dropped my dps by 20k

[blazing jewel]

my sin rogue brothers

neltharion can suck my nuts

[velvet haven]

yeah im seeing that to to replace my 437 harlem, heroic bomb dispenser is 1600 so I wonder if its actually good, or oversimming (im 444)

[keen spruce]

melee go 5

[blazing jewel]

melee hold dps

[strange python]

Who is kleftisrogue and is he in here

That fucking 457 call to suffering 36% uptime

HUH

[blazing jewel]

on what fight

[strange python]

Others too?

[strange python]

Amalg

That log is JUICED

[keen spruce]

idk i've just seen people complainin about it

unverified reports

[blazing jewel]

did you see my sark log last patch

that was like every good rng possible

[blazing jewel]

on sark

[strange python]

It sims like shit for me. Idk why

[shut owl]

I had a weird sim where I was somehow -20k on it... and then the other 4 times I simmed it was fine

[wind condor]

Now that we’re back from a 2 week break, can confirm reclearing nelth still indeed sucks

[thorn fjord]

Just got the cloak

But it’s not an upgrade in sub

Feels bad

[shut owl]

weird

[severe sparrow]

it's always simmed low for sub for me too

[thorn fjord]

Yeah i dunno

was an upgrade for sin but not much.. its only heroic tho

theres still the disclaimer about certain things not working

Prob something to do with that

[severe sparrow]

i think the heroic one just barely is simming as an upgrade now that it has that extra upgrade

[thorn fjord]

I upgraded it to 447

[keen spruce]

aparenty hard mode is dropping at 447

or myth track at least

for the dungeon

[spice spire]

the last boss is apaprently

[storm belfry]

“Hard mode” is just carrying around 4 time things the whole time without dying

And yah it’s just last boss I think

Ngl a little disappointed w this hard mode

[dusk ingot]

I see the talk of the hourglass, has there been any sims about the mirror trinket off final boss?

[sick aspen]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[gusty mirage]

who said anything about "the sims" being derped

words matter when you're making claims of misinformation

[blazing jewel]

@balmy condor illegal p1

[maiden gust]

do you know if the sandglass is accurately simming?

[gusty mirage]

probably not

the trinkets weren't available on a vendor on ptr

so nothing's tested

[maiden gust]

ah that makes sense ok ty

[gusty mirage]

worth keeping just in case ya know

[maiden gust]

for sure

[somber hill]

has anyone tested the daggers yet?

[terse grove]

do we get loot locked for the week after completing the mega?

[keen spruce]

u gonna make me scroll

[gusty mirage]

all I did

was tag him

and say "he doesn't know"

nowhere did I imply or say the sims are "derped"

as you put it

[keen spruce]

[blazing jewel]

f u oxi

[gusty mirage]

ty

[blazing jewel]

❤️

[gusty mirage]

gonna go back to wiping to zskarn

if that's okay

[blazing jewel]

dude we killed it with the bug today

that was clean

[gusty mirage]

ok?

[keen spruce]

you're culpablle

[gusty mirage]

where did I or stealthi say the 'sims are derped'

[keen spruce]

however you spell that word

he said they were "release yuumi" broken

[gusty mirage]

so quake = stealthi?

[runic hinge]

I’m down for oxi to take all the blame

[keen spruce]

oh that is quake

yall change your names too much

[runic hinge]

I didn’t get a bomb dispenser in vault like he promised

[keen spruce]

and by yall i mean quake

so what were you implying then

[spice spire]

I implied nothing

I ain’t ever played league in my life man

[keen spruce]

not u

[spice spire]

Also names change but like

[keen spruce]

look

i'm not a smart man

i see someone @ a green

then a green types

[spice spire]

It’s fairly obvious the pfp motifs

[keen spruce]

i assume it's the same green

[strange python]

we got shadow nerfed somehow for sure

[gusty mirage]

based on what

[spice spire]

I played like ass tn so we definitely got nerfed

[hoary kernel]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[steel ridge]

I thought it was just me

[spice spire]

They shadow nerfed you, not your class/spec

Dw

[cerulean nest]

omg my guildie rolled a 100 on sark cloak

we finally gamin boys

[cerulean nest]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9uCxh6BXiWRegAfufgHgfG

[solid mica]

Does execute matter a lot on sark?

[blazing jewel]

sorta not really

you dont phase the boss based on %

so all damage on the boss is good damage

but p1 and p3 are the main times youre hitting the boss

[solid mica]

Hmm, so maybe, also haste atleast does something for sin

Patch put sub 6k ahead in st for me 😦

[cerulean nest]

damn 447 dice is 850dps higher than beacon

thats annoying

[slow tulip]

i prefer a passive trinket than cringe stand and cast one everytime :/

[cerulean nest]

are there any 447 anvil enjoyers over beacon?

[slow tulip]

🥂

[cerulean nest]

I just dont know the sim bait-ness aspect of either of them compared to the other

[strange python]

Beacon simming seems off

My beacon sims worse than a 441 echo trinket

[cerulean nest]

yeah I mean its very strong obv. just hard to tell the real difference with crits/non-crits and like, the added agility of another 447 etc.

[strange python]

I mean something seems to have changed overnight in sims.

It was simming +1100 last night and now it's +200. No other changes.

[cerulean nest]

guess i'll wait to see if our orange/green overlords say anything

[solid mica]

Wait so once we sepsis we dont cast garrote again till sepsis ends?

[strange python]

@balmy condor you up

Hmm that's a no. @vestal wren you up?

[blazing jewel]

I think whispyr is on his flight

[strange python]

Slacker

Why did you guys PI Aug on kazzara xd

[blazing jewel]

is beacon only simming less on sub

[vestal wren]

whats the question

[blazing jewel]

or is it sin too

[blazing jewel]

its hawk so we were memeing him

[strange python]

Any idea why beacon dropped so much for sin sims overnight?

Seems to be a case by case, but a few players have talked about it

And have you heard anything about it for other specs too?

[cerulean nest]

these are my sims to replace 441 beacon

anvil surprised me

[strange python]

1230 from 441 beacon to 450 beacon? That sounds normal.

[vestal wren]

simming with the latest raidbots

[strange python]

Anvil is big with upgrades

[vestal wren]

does not show any diffrence in output

so not sure what you mean exactly

[strange python]

But beacon dropped for me from +1100 over Suffering to +200 against it.

[cerulean nest]

so 447 anvil really is just better than 441 beacon straight up

?

[strange python]

Yeah anvil isn't bad

[hoary remnant]

No

Anvil was never bad

Just better trinkets out there

[strange python]

I took a strong edible and I'm on the couch or I'd share my Sims

[supple snow]

It does make sense for sub to some extent. No Idea for assa though

[strange python]

But I've heard a few others talk about it

[cerulean nest]

I mean my sims tell me its 750dps better lol

i just dont know how to read that

[supple snow]

Since the value sub gets from stats is higher than before because of the buff, now flat dmg trinkets have lower value

[strange python]

Your sims show it lower than dice? That wasn't true for most as of last week, either.

[strange python]

Sin channel 🙂

[cerulean nest]

over my 441 beacon currently: 447 anvil is +750, 447 dice is +850

[strange python]

Oh I thought you meant dice over 450

[cerulean nest]

nono

[strange python]

Sign let me get my ass off the couch and run it again.

Beacon simming +300 over 441 suffering just sounds wrong

And is wildly different than it was last week

DMed you the sim, fuu.

[spring bane]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[kindred imp]

Seems like this is the end of Onyx ring. Even a maxed out champion ring outperforms it in today's sims:

[slow tulip]

[celest marlin]

So vault 444 Dice vs Chromatic trinket

[strange python]

The more I stare at these sims the more confused I am

Whyyyyyyy does beacon sim 1000 lower for me than everyone else

[slow tulip]

id be happy if a stand and cast trinket sims lower than a passive one

its same for me

beacon sims 350 lower than a 441 dice

so i play with dice and bomb

[strange python]

It's less that I want to find a reason to use beacon, and more that I want to know what's different about my sim

[keen spruce]

@strange python link sim

I think i know part of the problem if it's the same issue i was havin

[sick radish]

Do i lose my eng helm gem socket if i want to recraft stats?

[brazen zodiac]

nope

[limber lion]

1. Whether or not you use 2 on-use trinkets or one passive one, and the order of them in the sim.
2. Fight length

[strange python]

I've fucked around with all of this.

Changed orders, confirmed fight times are normal (5 min), confirmed it's not a stat weight issue

[limber lion]

Link the sim

[ripe relic]

How do we feel about the mirror? I just got one

[strange python]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2cCkbWG1WpmrG187aCFaPP

[keen spruce]

sim a gear compare with bomb dispenser in trinket slot 2

and beacon in slot 1

should give you more accurate results

[strange python]

I've done that. The difference was marginal and it still sims substantially lower for me than others

[limber lion]

Looks fine to me

This is what the bis sim looks like

Beacon is not even close to being bis

[keen spruce]

i mean yeah it's still worse for me

[limber lion]

You basically want bomb dispenser on always because it's giga bis

[strange python]

That feels...different than what I recall last week?

[keen spruce]

but 500 dps isn't exactly marginal

[limber lion]

And using bomb + beacon is not the best combo

[strange python]

I remember beacon being much closer last week.

[royal lantern]

^

like

bomb+beacon and bomb+nelth was even

[keen spruce]

more myth track gear

[strange python]

I guess I could be wrong, but beacon always felt like it was only off of suffering by ~150

[keen spruce]

more stats

[royal lantern]

legit no difference at all

[keen spruce]

stat trinkets start to get better than raw damage trinkets

would be my guess

[limber lion]

Doesn't matter, the bis sims are done with vault options

And catalyst

So it assumes 447+ on everything already

[keen spruce]

i was talkin about their relative changes from last week

on their gear simes

sims

[limber lion]

Right but I doubt they've changed their gear much at all in a single day

Where it would change by 1k dps

[keen spruce]

mine moved about 700

but my neth trinket also went up 3 ilvls itself

[strange python]

I guess it really doesn't matter in the long run, something just felt off.

[keen spruce]

wait that's not true

[sharp viper]

oh my, i need this trinket

[keen spruce]

i regemmed everything for nelth trinket

[limber lion]

Yeh it looks pretty good

[keen spruce]

so beacon won't sim as well for me

[strange python]

Mega dungeon trinket seems to sim around equal to beacon to me. Much lower than echo

[keen spruce]

mine has big hard on for sandglass

but they said new trinkets aren't finalized

[limber lion]

Sims think that it's bis

Bomb + Sandglass

[keen spruce]

hard mode shares the same lockout as just a normal run right?

[toxic ocean]

yh

[toxic ocean]

how much haste do you have boss

[limber lion]

Idk doesn't matter

[toxic ocean]

https://gyazo.com/d98e1c8f86b3052cc5c07e76e89ac57a ok woah

thats vs 441 nelth trinket tho

[keen spruce]

this banner is still up but looks promising

[woeful wigeon]

irideus fragment fixed on sims ?

[keen spruce]

no

[scenic sapphire]

Nah still oversims

[woeful wigeon]

guess i go for the cloack then it has speed also

[keen spruce]

bump it up to 447 and be happy

then unequip it for mythic rashok and magmorax cuz you're dying to rot

[limber lion]

10.1.5 Stuff:
Latest Update: July 14th
Updated the trinket portion; Accelerating Sandglass sims correctly now, no longer BiS.

• **Timestrike Dagger: **The Nick of Time dagger should sim properly and is best in slot at 441 ilvl in the off-hand. Not worth dropping a 450 ilvl dagger from your main-hand for it. The Time Strike -effect on the dagger is basically just a low chance damage proc with a fancy name, that's it. You cannot play around with it whatsoever and it is not buffed by anything in the spec kit. The effect is similar to multistrike from WoD where it "echoes" the damage that you do sometimes. The effect does around 1% damage by itself. It's cool I guess, but nothing crazy.

• New Best in Slot trinkets?: The Mirror of Fractured Tomorrows looks to be simming correctly and would be BiS for DSlice (Mythic+) only, not single target. Use it together with the Nelth trinket if you do. The Accelerating Sandglass however was oversimming. It should now sim properly and is no longer considered BiS. It's still okay, but loses to the previous Bomb Dispenser + Nelth/Essence/Dice/Beacon combos.

• **Annulet: **The Onyx Annulet is no longer a good choice for any spec and you should actively look to replace it as soon as possible. Rings as low as 421 ilvl (or even lower) can overtake the Annulet so replacing it should be fairly easy. Crafted Rings are very good choices to replace the Annulet.

• **Myth track: **The gear in +16 weekly vaults is on the new Myth track, which means you can just run +16 as your weekly key and then upgrade the item that you get from the vault all the way up to 447 ilvl. The items dropped in mythic raid are also on the Myth track. You still cannot get Myth gear from the end-of-the-dungeon-chest in mythic+, only from the weekly vault.

Other than that everything is still the same rotation and talent wise. You can refer to the pins below this one for up to date information.

[pseudo hamlet]

Any news from 10.1.5?

OHO!

[normal mist]

The timing there

10/10

[pseudo hamlet]

I was just clicking enter when I saw the wall of text appear, nice 😄

[strange python]

Weird. Dungeon trinket sims like poop compared to echo trinket for me, too.

I was simming it at 447 too

Wait nvm was simming the last boss trinket

[limber lion]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1hvhEDT1LQTuHuQ1Px2XoH

Was about to say, Sandglass def sims higher

[keen spruce]

so with aug coming out

the dps slots in lfg are gettin real small for sub rogues

[royal lantern]

dont be a sub

and yeha, nobody saw that comming man

nobody

🙂

[keen spruce]

aug, spriest, aug/priest target, tank, healer

[strange python]

Hunting a once a week drop chance dungeon item OHBOY

[keen spruce]

yeehaw

[royal lantern]

why play a normal dps my man

mandatory raid buffs/debuffs(that you fill with supports ofc)

and then stack supports for the main characters of wow, warlocks and mages

accept the future of raiding 🙂

[strange python]

Who can loot sandglass

Do I need to find a resto druid to funnel it?

[keen spruce]

it's agi/str

so probably lots of people

[strange python]

So pally.

[blazing jewel]

That’s actually pretty insane if it simmed for 600dps over mythic nelth

Different on a bis profile I’m sure but not of us realistically have that

[strange python]

It's ahead on bis profile by a bit too

It probably won't have the chance to highroll as much as nelth, but that's a big gap.

[keen spruce]

it's like 1500 ahead of a 447 nelth for me

also speak of the devl i just got invited to a 24 ulda

my highest timed fort is a 20

I think i'm being pranked

[strange python]

I'm curious if the megadung trinket will get nerfed like bomb bag did

[keen spruce]

there's a 3100 rogue in queue

i'm gettin my ass kicked

okay we filled

[sharp viper]

sick

that normal bomb dispenser though 😦

I also still got one

[limber lion]

Yeah that's his sim, not mine

I don't have any kind of bomb dispenser.

[sharp viper]

[limber lion]

surely

There it is

[supple snow]

Gratz

[sharp viper]

gz!

[uneven summit]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[keen spruce]

the group lead duo died to slam on first boss

we were blastin

[dark token]

was hoping for sin stonks with trink but my sub still sims higher https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oR4nswGb4KVPPMNJmmx4eF

[keen spruce]

i don't think assas can reach that in full bis

[blazing jewel]

My sin was about even with my sub

But post patch it’s not close

[burnt latch]

u got one before me

[limber lion]

Been clearing hc every week and just now got it, it's a tough battle

[burnt latch]

yeah zskarn dead since week 2 on all difficulties but still no sight

trinket doesnt exist

hasnt dropped once

[gaunt moat]

I got from 125,650 dps
to 128,455 dps
with this patch
not bad

Beacon now sims only 170dps higher than ominouse essence. i dunno what to think about that

[royal lantern]

cant even do the dungeon

either get a endless loading screen and have to log into another character so my rogue is not stuck anymore

or get a "instance not found" message

[keen spruce]

the buzzer beater beacon

at 3s

[woeful meteor]

gz

[woeful wigeon]

eu server down XD gotta love blizzard XD

[keen spruce]

it's it reset day?

[vestal wren]

patch day

[gaunt moat]

because enterting zaraleck caverns was buggy

[keen spruce]

the resto druid jumped down to the last boss and splatted

or pulled stars

[sharp viper]

if only druids had a feline form to move faster and take less falling damage

[keen spruce]

he pulled stars

[blazing jewel]

[gloomy dust]

I don't know if it is linked or mentioned somewhere, but is there a weakaura that shows and differentiates improved garrote vs regular garrote?

[keen spruce]

luxthos rogue pack does

[gloomy dust]

https://wago.io/LuxthosRogueDragonflight this one?

[keen spruce]

ye

it puts a little green dot in the corner of garrote when it's empowered

if you use a different rogue pack you can take the garrote module out and replace the one in yours

[gloomy dust]

aaah that's what I wanted to know, cheers!

[gloomy dust]

I use a generic one, i'll just replace it with this then 🙂

[sharp viper]

rather happy with luxthos weakaura packages but the tracking of assa 4p is not consistent over all talent builds

[keen spruce]

luxthos puts in giga work on his stuff. normally best functionality

why u trackin 4p?

[sharp viper]

so I remember to squeeze in a shiv and not slack on it

[gaunt moat]

you can use my WA for tracking 4p, i use it with luxthos

[sharp viper]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/LuxthosRogueDragonflight (Luxthos's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)

[gaunt moat]

https://wago.io/U_ROg96PJ

[keen spruce]

that sounds like too much work

i'll just wait for 40% uptime on nelth

[sharp viper]

nice, can I put that on top of luxthos deathmark WA?

[gaunt moat]

yeah, just plop it in the "core" group.

instead of the regular deathmark WA

[sharp viper]

will give it a try once the EU servers are back up! thanks

[gaunt moat]

oh they are? cool

[sharp viper]

once

[gaunt moat]

YOU LIAR

[sharp viper]

currently still under maintenance

[faint jacinth]

7 min left

[gaunt moat]

oh. once.

i take it back, you're a good boy

[keen spruce]

NA server's were in shambles yesterday

[sharp viper]

[keen spruce]

and you guys got to miss the M+ fiasco

and the zskarn fiasco

[sharp viper]

I had hoped they would have learned from that

[keen spruce]

zskarn just didn't have any mythic mechanics for like 5 hours

many kills

[sharp viper]

no point in having patch testers in NA

[keen spruce]

undeserved

[gaunt moat]

probably half of them already quit since RTO policy

[sharp viper]

what's RTO?

[gaunt moat]

return to office

[sharp viper]

productivity is up by 200% for sure though

[balmy condor]

?

[balmy condor]

Wild

[gaunt moat]

imo was just a way for them to cut costs by letting go of people by making them quit. The boby kotick way.

[sharp viper]

workers are such a loss, they only cost money and provide absolutely nothing to get more money, financial disaster

[blazing jewel]

Did you fly the plane

[balmy condor]

What

[blazing jewel]

Yea

[sharp viper]

is that an euphemism for something?

[gaunt moat]

They changed message, now it doesn't specify time range

[blazing jewel]

Eu frothing at the mouth to loot vaults

[faint jacinth]

yeah just saw that

[gaunt moat]

i just wanna do megadungeon

[faint jacinth]

they realized augvoker buffs are stacking when there are multiple in groups

[gaunt moat]

though pugging it might be hell

[keen spruce]

pugging it is not cash money

[faint jacinth]

ive seen loads of m0 groups with ilvl and high io

[keen spruce]

tanks can solo most of the bosses tho

[faint jacinth]

should be fine

[keen spruce]

they're all pretty fun

[faint jacinth]

ppl told me i needed a quest tho, idk where to pick it up

[keen spruce]

don't need it

[short forge]

what do u guys think, is there any change for assa coming soon?

[faint jacinth]

10.1.7 maybe

or 10.2

[blazing jewel]

0

[short forge]

u think there is something coming or just wild guesses? 😄

[faint jacinth]

its possible rogue dev said there might be class wide changes in future patches

[sharp viper]

no need for the quest, can enter the dungeon (in theory) without the quest. you can get a toy from doing the dungeon quest

[keen spruce]

yeah i just walked in there

[gray crest]

It was supposed to be 10.1.5 but got delayed. Pretty sure he had a family emergency or something l ike that

[keen spruce]

quest has some bread crumb stuff outside and has some reward stuff

but not required

[sharp viper]

next patch for sure

[agile osprey]

The bosses were pretty well balanced, Morchie was moderately tough but other than that the new dungeon is fine

[keen spruce]

most of them are just mechanic checks

[agile osprey]

[keen spruce]

morchie is kind of hectic at then end when your fixates are runnin at like mach 5

[agile osprey]

Yeah, I was on my shadowpriest for that too. Felt terrible

[keen spruce]

2nd boss is kinda lame

i still don't know what it does

our tank just solo'd it from 50% hp lol

cuz we had like a 420 healer that didn't know wtf was going on

[sharp viper]

did you get the trinket?

[agile osprey]

Luckily my key group just knocked it out yesterday since m+ was disabled anyways

[keen spruce]

nah

[agile osprey]

but I got the trinket!

[keen spruce]

i'm gonna recruit a bunch of traders

next week

[swift magnet]

I think the pin should also mention that Hero-track gear only starts dropping at the end of the key on 17, unless i'm making a mistake @limber lion , and people still farming gear might not need the Champion-track gear a 16 drop at the end, just a suggestion

[blazing jewel]

I’m surprised how good that is on sin

[keen spruce]

sims aren't final yet

but it's lookin pretty juiced

[sharp viper]

it's a 2.2k dps increase according to my sims earlier, even if it's just half of that I'll take it

[agile osprey]

I gotchu, just get a lockout up to that boss then ping me

[keen spruce]

are you NA?

[agile osprey]

yep

a52

[keen spruce]

my man

[keen spruce]

yeah showing +1500 over 447 nelth for me

but who knows

i'm gonna farm one anyways just in case

and a daggie at some point

[agile osprey]

Is there a hardmode to unlock for this dungeon too?

[keen spruce]

yeah i haven't looked it up tho

i think it drops myth track tho

[fading mason]

2 addons from now

[keen spruce]

unless i was bamboozled by whoever was tellin me about it

[agile osprey]

Shoot i gotta farm it again then...

But that also means 447 dagger w/timestrike gonna be needed

[keen spruce]

idk how it works, maybe jus the special hardmode drops are 447?

if those are a thing

i have no idea i hsould stop speculating before the green names come in here and yell at me

[agile osprey]

Good point

[sharp viper]

hardmode is just dragging orbs to the last boss without dying and only last boss loot will be on myth track

[limber lion]

But that's been the case for the entire 10.1 patch, that's not new. The only thing that's new is +16 vault being Myth

[sharp viper]

i was honestly hoping for ulduar style optional hardmode on every boss

[swift magnet]

true true I just thought some ppl will make the mistake

[storm belfry]

Not really a “hard mode” but you have to find and Carry these hourglasses the whole dungeon without dying

You can’t mount with it and you can’t double jump

If you drop it someone else has to pick it up within 10 seconds or you fail

And if you carry them the whole time without dying you get some achievement after killing the last boss and he’s the one who can drop myth track

[gaunt moat]

how come some of the europe servers are already up
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/game/status/eu

[balmy condor]

Would assume some of the servers are coming up

[short forge]

Blackhand isnt up

just tried a sec ago

[visual hemlock]

the new singletargte trinket can be upgraded to 447?

[strange python]

No

Just past boss items

Last*

[visual hemlock]

it does drop from last boss

[vestal wren]

last boss drops mirror

sunglass is the trinket you want for single target

[visual hemlock]

and it drops from second to last boss

so not 447

[spice spire]

Correct

[storm belfry]

Correct

[balmy condor]

Correct

[keen spruce]

drops from 2nd boss

[cerulean nest]

Correct

[crisp shard]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[balmy condor]

Correct

[gaunt moat]

@balmy condor I see now what you meant you wouldn't play on patch day either way.
you KNEW in advance about this.

[vestal wren]

Correct

[balmy condor]

I mean I knew I would be traveling well in advance of the patch

So

Yeah?

[gaunt moat]

but you said EVEN if you didn't

you knew

[balmy condor]

Yeah, because I’m not playing this patch

[gaunt moat]

you're probably ddosing them right now

[balmy condor]

Surely

[cerulean nest]

Correct

[austere fulcrum]

sherlock ?

[gaunt moat]

[balmy condor]

Big

[cerulean nest]

sheeshola

thank god theyre both off second boss

[fading mason]

Is Nick Just good cause of the stats or is ith timestrike?

[cerulean nest]

timestrike

[fading mason]

And what does it do

On wow head it is Just like 10%chance to Do smtg

[cerulean nest]

something like this

[fading mason]

Thx sir

[balmy condor]

Generic damage proc

Just hidden as a stat

And not explained anywhere in game

Great stuff honestly

[cerulean nest]

kinda best case scenario for items you have to farm for

second boss, only 3 items on its loot pool. and you want two of them

[woeful wigeon]

Same 1455 also instead for beacon 441 and you?

[cerulean nest]

yup

[keen spruce]

don't get too erect yet

[woeful wigeon]

So nick is beter then 441 of sarkareth? Did not sim yet

[keen spruce]

promising but not guaranteed

[balmy condor]

All the rogue ones are

[keen spruce]

okay get erect then

[normal otter]

servers are up again

EU

[oak tangle]

between d4 and halls of torment idk if i have time to do mega dungeon, how worth it is it for 10.2

any annulet level stuff to farm

[balmy condor]

Combined like 1.5% maybe

[oak tangle]

ty ❤️

[royal lantern]

so its IMPORTANT and i NEED TO DO IT because its the only thing that stops our progress????

[balmy condor]

Exactly

Like playing sepsis without understanding how sepsis works

Because it sims higher

And then macroing ambush/mut together

And wondering why your dps sucks

[royal lantern]

[stiff geode]

missing a garrote under sepsis sucks ass, when there are 600 things happening at once and you're trying not to die

[vestal wren]

i should macro mut und ambush together

[woeful wigeon]

Lovely 27 min timer for 250+peeps

[royal lantern]

i also play outlaw now cus Outlaw sims higher

btw anyone knows if i need to use RtB as outlaw???? dont wanna play that ability

[gaunt moat]

I got them macro'd together

[royal lantern]

[gaunt moat]

(with a modifier)

[cerulean nest]

Correct

[balmy condor]

That’s not really a macro

That’s just two keybinds

[keen spruce]

I'm becoming more and more of a greedy piggy and eating sepsis buffs cuz i'm trying to squeeze in one more global

[gaunt moat]

it's a macro.. TECHNICALLY

[stiff geode]

bomb good to macro, yeah? prob on mut?

[gaunt moat]

so worth it amirite

[keen spruce]

as if refreshing at 7s instead of 6s is somehow gonna change my parse while my nelth trinket is procin at like 9% that pull

i'm gonna modify your WA to make it go red like 2 globals earlier

[storm belfry]

I macro mine to shiv, mut and envenom

[limber lion]

That's a bit much lol

[gusty mirage]

@keen spruceyou never apologized to me or stealthi

you fuck

[storm belfry]

[keen spruce]

you didn't answer my question

[woeful wigeon]

Feel the love boys

[keen spruce]

[gusty mirage]

what was your question

[keen spruce]

what were you implying

[gusty mirage]

and why wasn't it "do you forgive me for putting words in your mouth?"

[keen spruce]

[gaunt moat]

you're the kind of person that sets the alarm clock 30 minutes before he needs to wake up, right?

[gusty mirage]

that sub is shitting on assassination in ST damage

that was very clear

[keen spruce]

i set one 1:30, 1:00, and 0:30 before then i sleep through all of them

[balmy condor]

Could just make a macro to startattack, cast bomb, stopattack

[keen spruce]

it was not to me but i'm sry oxi

[balmy condor]

And then spam that as fast as your little piggies can go

[gusty mirage]

its okay I still love you

[keen spruce]

and stealthi who never got involved in the conversation at all lol

[stiff geode]

Ah yeah, gotta make sure it gets used xD suppose that's feasible

[gusty mirage]

quake the real op

[keen spruce]

quake said the sims were "yuumi release" broken and doesn't even play league

he doesn't even know the mayhem he brings

dogs cant be trusted with keyboards

they don't even have thumbs

[stiff geode]

raidbots keeps yeeting me to the back of the line, bout to have to fork up

raided with annulet last night 😅

[storm belfry]

I cba my macros are made

[vestal wren]

bind it to mousewheel

scroll to infinity

[balmy condor]

Unlock your mousewheel

[vestal wren]

brilliant idea, the infinite scroll wheels

[oak tangle]

any bhoppers in chat

[balmy condor]

What if you set up an auto hot key to mousewheel down when you mousewheel down

Perma trinket

100000% uptime

[stiff geode]

just perma spams it on a middleclick toggle?

[oak tangle]

bind mwheeldown +jump

[stiff geode]

inb4 ban?

[gray crest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dap5lEuS5uM&ab_channel=Mouse

[stiff geode]

hey that's my mouse

[keen spruce]

no that's my mouse

[gray crest]

jokes on you guys, i have 2 of them

[stiff geode]

wait that's the bigger brother to mine I think

[brazen zodiac]

[gray crest]

I have the new g502 x wireless one, and an older g502 elite one

[stiff geode]

Ah yeah, mine be the g402

[spice spire]

And yet here I am

Insert gif of thanos with George head saying I am inevitable

[keen spruce]

u got me in trouble with oxi

how could u

[spice spire]

Bro you don’t need me for that

[gusty mirage]

wdym

I love shmeeps

we have a love-hate relationship

[spice spire]

You didn’t see his s1 builds then

Those were the ideas that only a mother could love

[gusty mirage]

I did

and I love him despite that

[spice spire]

Damn

I must really be a shitter then

[gusty mirage]

@keen spruce

[royal lantern]

thats everyones mouse

[keen spruce]

[wide ridge]

probably an over asked question but what does timestrike do

[balmy condor]

Damage

It procs damage

[wide ridge]

oh

[keen spruce]

fitting pfp

[wide ridge]

ok i guess

[keen spruce]

for timestrike

[wide ridge]

bedge

how hard is the new dungeon

[keen spruce]

kind of a pain with pugs

but tanks can solo most of the bosses

[wide ridge]

huh

[spice spire]

Q3 about to pop off

[keen spruce]

our bear killed the 2nd boss from 50% hp cuz we had no idea what any of the mechanics did and the healer was like 410 ilvl

[balmy condor]

Timestrike on the dagger is a low chance to proc damage, with more time strike doing damage with the same proc rate.

You can’t play around it and it doesn’t get buffed by any spec mechanics.

If you played when multistrike was a thing, it’s basically multistrike, except not explained anywhere and confusing for anyone not reading a class discord actively.

[faint jacinth]

does it work outside of megadungeon ? Can't see any info about it

[spice spire]

[faint jacinth]

does a portion of your damage after 3 seconds

[keen spruce]

your timestrike stat

oh i replied to the wrong message

but yes

[faint jacinth]

ah nice would be pointless if it didnt

[balmy condor]

Yeah of course it works outside of the dungeon

[keen spruce]

timestrike probably jsut a new stat they're fuckin around with that might end up popping up other places

[dusk summit]

As time strike is a stat are there more sources of it or just on the weapon?

[keen spruce]

and somehow more boring than vers

[balmy condor]

There’s more sources but none of them seem worth because of the item level or things like tier

It’s mainly weapons

There’s a 2 hander as well

[faint jacinth]

then its definitely an upgrade bc raidbots doesnt show timestrike in the sims

adding timestrike makes it even more valuable

[balmy condor]

It sims timestrike fine

[faint jacinth]

rly ? it didnt show it for me this morning

[balmy condor]

You gotta be cooky to think a 441 dagger with vers beats a 450 dagger with crit mast

With no other factors

[faint jacinth]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/c9zWNpr3ECGWujKdvcpABh

i have 441 dagger

[balmy condor]

Aight

Let me reword it then

You gotta be cooky to think a 441 dagger with vers beats a 441 dagger with crit mast by 0.6%

With no other factors

Is that better

[faint jacinth]

yeah it obv counts timestrike otherwise it cant be better with 2nd stats alone

i just found it odd that the stat doesnt appear

its just a suffused camp recolor tho

[balmy condor]

Wdym the stat doesn’t appear

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2ftcWEDrBpZXVa4CT6qUDo

It’s right there at the bottom

[balmy condor]

“Timestrike”

Oh the tooltip

Yeah that’s just wowhead tooltip

[faint jacinth]

ahhh makes sense then

[balmy condor]

The base item technically doesn’t have Timestrike

It’s added on top of it

[faint jacinth]

i didnt check below

[balmy condor]

Every tooltip online basically just uses wowheads tooltips

[keen spruce]

what does "divergent mythic" mean

[balmy condor]

And if it’s not set up to be exact

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

You’ll miss things

[balmy condor]

Divergent is the dungeon drop that adds Timestrike

[faint jacinth]

.8% dps not too bad

[balmy condor]

Mythic is the dungeon difficulty

[agile osprey]

Brb capping timestrike

[keen spruce]

wait so can it drop without timestrike?

[faint jacinth]

just m0 ?

[idle inlet]

Is Nick of time part of our bis?

[keen spruce]

or does it always drop as divergent

[faint jacinth]

or will it get added to m+ pool next season like market in SL ?

[balmy condor]

Any drop from the dungeon is divergent

I’m pretty sure

[faint jacinth]

it is

[idle inlet]

Damn lol I checked them pins this morning but new updates happening

[spice spire]

Should we pin the items or just link people to the tc pin?

[keen spruce]

i'm only askin cuz the other items on that boss don't have the divergent tag

[balmy condor]

Just link people to tc

They ain’t gonna click it anyway

But ya know

[spice spire]

Real

[keen spruce]

i just never leave so i see the pins posted in real time

[spice spire]

Kinda weird flex to call urself a nerd like that

But go off king

[keen spruce]

ty

[balmy condor]

I added a counter to a link I put in the pin one time

Like a “more info here”

It got clicked 6 times

Total

Legitimately with how often we have to tell people to read the pins

If it’s not within the first 2 sentences

Forget it

[keen spruce]

you know we can't read

[balmy condor]

Like a second paragraph in a pin?

Never getting read

Just not happening

[faint jacinth]

when you watch webdev lessons you realize how braindead ppl are

if it takes more than 2s and the text is not a certain size

[royal lantern]

@balmy condor apperantly faeline stomp from monk amps timestrike btw

[faint jacinth]

stuff like that

[royal lantern]

[dawn haven]

I'll click it to inflate the usage number

[balmy condor]

Sure

Not Assassination not my problem

[balmy condor]

This is why I mentioned it now 6 months after I did it

[dawn haven]

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[keen spruce]

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/chad-cat-chad-cat-gif-25535198

[sinful island]

are Irideus fragment sims correct now?

[thorn fjord]

Catch 22 over here with the new trinket and dagger… it’s cool that we got gains but now I gotta farm it

Why am I like this

[balmy condor]

No

[sinful island]

how is fragment 441 compared to class trinket 447 then?

[keen spruce]

terrible

[spice spire]

He’s right again

Fuck fuck fuck

[visual hemlock]

I got trinket from second boss in new dungeon

2k dps upgrade

wooo

[vestal wren]

nice, congrats

[buoyant pilot]

Guys, anyone has a tip on how to sim stats (as in gems, enchants) on gear properly in Raidbots? I have all the boxes ticked, but it seems like (for example!) haste is quite big for my current gear setup, I see that back in sims with high haste gear. My gems are full crit/mast, and raidbots doesn't recommend ANY gem changes or any enchant changes towards haste for example. Or even for mast/crit

I did a stat weights sim (I know that it's not the best tool/very accurate but it serves the purpose for my situation) and it shows mast/haste/vers/crit.

Either it's just not doing it or I'm doing something wrong 🥲

[keen spruce]

maybe you guys are rubbin off on me

[indigo ginkgo]

back to eranog ring ! even ith nerf still sims better than same of my rings that are not more than 437 , crap

[keen spruce]

so the gem sims won't do like a jumbled combination of gems to optimize stat weights. what's probably happening is you current gear likes mastery and haste, but regemming / enchanting all of your shit to mastery haste makes it want other stuff more. if it isn't an enormous difference in dps when you sim gem combos then there's no point in getting stuck in the weeds with it.

[gusty mirage]

talk to me more about the weeds

that's stage 3 btw

[keen spruce]

look i'm tellin him what to do

[gusty mirage]

oh I do have an answer

[keen spruce]

not what we gonna do

[gusty mirage]

if you're adding a bunch of stuff

like adding recrafts

the robot gets stubborn with gems

[keen spruce]

I was born in the weeds

[gusty mirage]

simplify the criteria of items, and sim gems separately

and you'll get the answer you're looking for. Also make sure you tick the "always use" button under the primary stat gems

it brings down iterations significantly

[spice spire]

You were born on weed

Cuz ur fried got ‘em

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-exotic-tiger-king-never-recover-financially-broke-gif-16765645

[gusty mirage]

its okay

we're in the weeds together

solidarity brother

[vestal wren]

real hacker, watching at the matrix

[worn badger]

finally leveling my rogue. any one know if any of the the time incursion trinkets are any better than the others while gearing back up ?

[gusty mirage]

ngl I have no idea what the time incursion is

is that the alternate universe thing

[vestal wren]

its the rifts

[gusty mirage]

is this new 10.1.5 content?

[vestal wren]

can collect the new currency by either doing the rifts or dungeon

[worn badger]

yeah its the new public event. 402 veteran gear

[gusty mirage]

explains why I don't know anything about it

[vestal wren]

you should, who will farm all the transmogs and mounts else for you

[gusty mirage]

true

the real end game

[vestal wren]

asmongold know it all along

[worn badger]

trinkets have old effects, valanyr for healing, Windfury aoe effect, shalamayne( king strike on strike etc

[gusty mirage]

prolly decent enough until you get something from raid & the new megadungeon

[dusk summit]

If running crafted dagger with Crit/mastery are they considered BIS(other than the timestrike).

I have one at 437 that I want to upgrade but if it's not worth then I'll look to upgrade make other items. Like a ring though I do have the current bis rings (listed on wowhead)

Or is the sarkareth dagger better? Assuming same Ilvl?

[runic terrace]

!trinket

[balmy condor]

Otherwise

It’s whatever

450 daggers > 447 daggers

447 daggers > 444

Etc

[keen spruce]

u know what really chafes my nipples

when peopel come in here and ask a question

then like 3 people debate the answer

come to an agreement

and the original question asker is never heard from again

[dusk summit]

Yah I saw that about the offhand.
But don't stats come into play. Like it seems 3 ilvls doesn't make up for the loss of stats. But I guess that's what sims are for.

[runic terrace]

Friends, I got Beacon as well as DBD. I guess I use Beacon on opener, right? And if so, when?

[dusk summit]

Is this for me? Did I make zah booboo?

[keen spruce]

after your first rupture

[keen spruce]

no it was earlier lol

[dusk summit]

Ahh ok

[keen spruce]

i just have brain lag

[spice spire]

He just like me

[runic terrace]

great, thank you @keen spruce

[spice spire]

Technically I should just say they there

[runic terrace]

can anyone tell me how to use the mythic track? or where to find/activate it?

[spice spire]

Anything that you got from the vault at 16+ or mythic raid is on the mythic track

It’s nothing to use/activate

You just take it to the upgrade guy and use aspect crest to upgrade

[vestal wren]

tbh i think 10.1.5 has a nice balance

items are not better by a lot, but good enough to still do the new dungeon

you get the item, great

you don't, whatever its only a small upgrade

[frozen gorge]

!Whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[strange python]

Dagger and trinket together sim about 1.2k combined ahead of other options.

Dagger actually seems more impactful than trinket

[vestal wren]

haven't done the dungeon

i hope i get some drops

[idle inlet]

Is there a reason that my crafted dagger sims better than Nick of time?

[spice surge]

Because you didnt sim on latest probably

So the version of simc you are using arent simming the effect

[idle inlet]

Thanks thought I had it set to latest but I was wrong

[strange python]

Finally I got a bomb dispenser but whats the best way to use it like inbuilt in macro or something? Any tips plx ❤️

[royal lantern]

macro to mutilate/envenom/shiv

that way you use it on cd, and if you use beacon it doesnt clash with beacon

if you dont use beacon, just macro to everything tbh

[strange python]

Tbh I half expect nerfs like last season

[limber lion]

Just macro it to mutilate, you don't need to macro it to everything

Super pointless

[royal lantern]

lets not act as if thats a problem in any form lol

[spice surge]

Surely theyll 3% aura nerf assassination

[royal lantern]

just copy paste the macro and change the ability names

[spice surge]

Just like last season

[limber lion]

But legit super pointless and there's no reason to do that whatsoever

You have to remove that shit from every single macro again the next patch

you legit do not gain any dps from macroing it to everything

it's like macroing potion and deathmark together

[gusty mirage]

+800 is a lot

[limber lion]

you press that shit together anyways

[gusty mirage]

the trinket being 1600 dps for me better than beacon

is also a lot

[limber lion]

I agree, the trinkets and the weapon being so good has me intrigued for sure

One way to make the new content interesting

[gusty mirage]

that's on par with a sark cloak + sark dagger for me lol

[limber lion]

Just make op stuff

[royal lantern]

....you mean open your spellbook, and drag the 4 abilitys in your bar again...?

[vestal wren]

fair, probabyl more for assassiantion than for sub/outlaw

[gusty mirage]

it's +813 for me as sub

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fKAqntngKLqYAJUJcS8Syw

[solar tangle]

why the thing is so good? xd

[limber lion]

If you use macros for other stuff, then no

And again that's 4 abilities that you're dragging for absolutely no fucking reason whatsoever

Literally 0 gain from doing that shit

[royal lantern]

if you use important macros that you 100% wanna use again, you just dont delete them?

i legit dont see your problem

making it sound like a big deal

[limber lion]

What, you're literally the crazy one here not me

Give me one singular reason why you would ever do that

That's completely useless, why would you macro it to 10 different things when doing it once is enough?

It's not about being a big deal or not, it's just completely useless and redundant

It's the same as macroing a toy to every single ability

Or startattack

it's all the same, completely useless, does not increase your dps whatsoever

[idle inlet]

Aoe for when you using fok XD

I'm just playing devil's advocate lol

[limber lion]

FOK is fine, you can do Muti and FoK

[royal lantern]

what soft spot did i hit on cev here cus i said "just macro it to some abilitys, doesnt really matter" for you going full balistic and acting as if making/replacing macros in your skillbar is some titanic feat lol

[limber lion]

But adding it to Shiv and Envenom and everything else is just completely useless

[limber lion]

You literally never said "doesn't really matter"

not a single time

What is your problem

You said "macro it to these 3 abilities if you use beacon and macro it to everything if you don't"

"it's not that big of a deal, just do it"

literally pointless and useless

I mean go for it if you want

But it's complely redundant

It's not about being annoying, hard, difficult, time-consuming or whatever to do

It's about being 100% useless

If you want to make every single one of your action bars look like Detect, go for it

completely useless and doesn't do anything

but go for it if you want to

[idle inlet]

I love doing pointless and useless things for even the slightest perceived advantage real or otherwise though.

[royal lantern]

ye idk, got cev on a bad day again i gues

[limber lion]

Come on bruh

Give me one singular reason why you would macro it to Envenom and Shiv @royal lantern

That's what I thought.

[strange python]

I'm conflicted. Highly incentives doing group stacks, so good luck finding people willing to help

[limber lion]

True, but at least it's more content to do in the game regardless. Could have introduced a dungeon without any good loot which gets cleared once and never again.

[strange python]

It's neat that new items are good. But it's frustrating that they're so much better and on a weekly lockout

If farmable I'd be okay with it

Like legion tw

[limber lion]

Not a big fan of the weekly lockout system for bis items myself either, had similar issues with haste rings and trinkets in the past

[strange python]

Taz trinket was similarly strong and got nerfed

I think sands trinket is uniquely good for sin, though. Haven't heard similar from warriors, dh, hunters, or enh.

[gusty mirage]

soleahs?

[strange python]

No

[limber lion]

Yeah Ticking Sack of Terror

[strange python]

Ticking sack

[gusty mirage]

oh

the mail room one

[limber lion]

But that was a special case

because it was procing too much

[gusty mirage]

wasn't that nerf after they converted it to m+?

[limber lion]

So they just fixed the trinket, which made it much worse

[gusty mirage]

or am I misremembering

[idle inlet]

What specs can roll on daggers

[gusty mirage]

rogue

[minor gate]

not outlaw

[gusty mirage]

outlaw and sin

err

sub and sin

exsanguinatehate poisoning my mind with pirate talk

[strange python]

I suspect healer trinket will get a big nerf.

[limber lion]

I was using Ticking Sack until like August 1st, after which I switched to Phial + Amp. No clue what happened back then or if it was nerfed or what

[gusty mirage]

but yeah 2 rogue specs only specs in the game that have daggers on loot table

gl

[strange python]

And that sands/dagger will escape the nerfs.

[gusty mirage]

found it

Fixed an issue where Inv misc bag felclothbag [Ticking Sack of Terror] could trigger more than intended in the presence of multiple trinkets.

july 30th hotfix

[limber lion]

Yeah there we go

[gusty mirage]

wtf does that even mean

"in the presence of multiple trinkets"

lmao

[limber lion]

Worded weirdly but it pretty much meant that the bombs stacked together

[gusty mirage]

oh with other people

[limber lion]

Yeh

It was pretty bonkers

[gusty mirage]

its okay

you sacrificed the trinket

for winds of winter buffs

[limber lion]

Truee

Unironically my fav iteration of Assassination in a while

[gusty mirage]

remember when we cast vanish on CD?

[limber lion]

I hated the damage breakdown and winds doing the majority of the damage, but it felt good to play

[gusty mirage]

remember when assassination wasn't 61/62 apm?

[limber lion]

Adding an extra target felt like you did more dps immediately

[gusty mirage]

[limber lion]

Whreas now it kinda feels like a hassle

Like idk if I even bother multidotting

[woeful meteor]

with vigor or with mfd

[gusty mirage]

with mfd obv

vigor gamers get shamed

[limber lion]

Flag with MFD honestly pretty pog

[woeful meteor]

remember I played Vigor for majority of the patch then the other rogue dropped Mythic Sylv so I swapped to mfd to still beat him and it worked

Yep prefered S3 Version with Set and but flag+ mfd baseline pretty pog

[limber lion]

Dragonflight parsing is super heavy on the RNG and procs, not a big fan of 1rpm stuff

[gusty mirage]

you shut your whore mouth

[limber lion]

Honestly same, but it was undeniably pretty awful in aoe

[storm onyx]

Bind it to Mutilate and Envenoms

[limber lion]

Just Mutilate is enough.

[storm onyx]

aha cool

[runic hinge]

I tried assa for the first time in s3 and I couldn’t get the hang of the mfd flag stuff so I waited for DF

[gusty mirage]

I just realized if I get this trinket I never have to play beacon again @limber lion

I need to get in that dungeon asap

[strange python]

For now bound it to mutil but I guess if you proc back to back Ambush on pull you won't use Mutilate until a fair bit inside your opener

[limber lion]

I got heroic bomba today so I'm free. Using bomba + dice

[storm onyx]

You cant proc it without Mutillate 1st

[gusty mirage]

I lost 447 bomba to a dh

[limber lion]

Good luck on the sandthingy

[gusty mirage]

cause he got 40 more dps than I did

[limber lion]

You can just use it manually as well. Just press the Mutilate button during gcd

Garrote - Slice (immediately muti after to apply bomb) - ER...

Don't need to actually Mutilate to use the bomb that's macro'd to it

just need to press the button

The trinket isn't on the gcd