#assassination

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untold mortar
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should have written patchwerk to be more obv

balmy condor
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Idk usually when people clown emoji me it’s cause they think I’m the clown

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(I usually am)

blazing jewel
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What type of clown

untold mortar
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not the funny one

blazing jewel
balmy condor
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Damn

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He had that locked in

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Ice in his veins

blazing jewel
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What about a silly one

untold mortar
balmy condor
blazing jewel
deft flicker
subtle tundra
lusty ermine
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Are there any items from the new megadungeon that become BiS for us?

thorny aurora
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i played sin on terros last raid and hated it

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the first spikes timer was way too early and it always was in the middle of my opener

cunning nest
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Felt the same for me there, but without exhang it shouldnt be that bad anymore

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shadowstep is your friend on that encounter

gusty mirage
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you just drop the pillar at max melee range

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how does it impact your opener at all

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if anything the soak impacted you casting puzzle box

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that's about it

thorny aurora
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I think it was more about how I mapped my CDs keybinds

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Sin opener isn't that natural for me + thinking about where to position + hitting the binds

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But it's defo personal skill

gilded oasis
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@balmy condor ???

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Oh it was broodkeeper

slim hamlet
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Wait

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Is sin like the best rogue spec now?

gaunt moat
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Sorry for late response, only saw the question now.
I'm gonna go with B, and I'll explain why.
I'll just start by saying I'm an old veteran player (actually used to be the mod here) and i took a 6 year break, so i have somewhat fresh eyes while re-learning the spec.

Issues with CT at ST currently:

  • Usability Clearness
  • Directly competes with our other main finisher, Envenom - This has made the usage of CT very unclear, when, how and if it should be used.
    is it good in ST because the tier set buffs it? I don't know.
  • The description makes it sounds like you should only use it to apply the dot. But in actuality that's your main AoE spam finisher. And at ST a loss.
  • Role as an assassination ability
    Sin is about DoT maintenance, so this ability does makes sense.
    But with already maintaining garrote and rupture, do we really need another dot that does nothing but damage to maintain? how does it benefit gameplay?
    It's kinda like if you'd separate mutilated flesh to not be built-in to mutilate.

I believe the consensus of the community is that CT is not a ST ability nor should it be.

CT ideas:

  • I want people to be happy to have an assassination rogue in their party. Add some utility to it that would make it push it in that direction. damage-wise or defensive-wise. Iron-wire is too hard to use (I'm speaking for all levels of play) and the effect is hard to notice.
  • Ever since even before BfA when I relayed the community's idea to Sephuz, people wanted an on-use big burst damage, one idea was "collecting enemies blood just to throw it back at them"
  • Have some combo-style gameplay. Instead of CT doing damage by itself, It could be a setup for other abilities, or enhance your abilities on the bloodied target for a while (This one could make it good in ST).
woeful meteor
slim hamlet
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Was just looking through 10.1.5 notes to see if there was something interesting, and saw the other 2 getting aura buffs

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So just got hyped

gaunt moat
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those are compinsations for annulet nerf

slim hamlet
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Ah

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No idea what that is

spice spire
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Oh the return of the one trick

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Blessed

slim hamlet
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You already know

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Just spent like 4 hours fixing all my UI stuff that got yeeted

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Also finally graduated so i can play this game 23 hours a day too

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kinda hyped

royal lantern
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shity borrowed power ring

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and was a big part of subs/outlaws dmg, cus imagine doing dmg with your own abilitys lmao

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gets nerfed, specs get compensation buffs

slim hamlet
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wtf is this jackshit

gusty mirage
royal lantern
slim hamlet
slim hamlet
royal lantern
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diablo 4

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released

slim hamlet
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ah yeah makes sense

gusty mirage
royal lantern
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people buy it with their gold

royal lantern
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BUT ITS SO GOOD BRO

gusty mirage
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stop my wrists hurt thinking about it

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I'm too old for outlaw

slim hamlet
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I feel like I will die if I start playing wow again with outlaw spec

gaunt moat
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Spend 30 minutes writing essay, no one even react feelscryman

slim hamlet
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I just got done recovering from cubital tunnel syndrome

royal lantern
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could have also just say "B, CT on ST is stupid and should not be a thing" dracthyr_kek

slim hamlet
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Oh man, I still need to remake my plater and all my class weakauras

subtle tundra
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A. If its talented for AOE reasons, i like having to use it
Envenom as the only spender is kinda lackluster and adding a bit more variance in rotation
Don't think it should make or break dps in those situations either, kinda like SL where you COULD use it but some people didnt

slim hamlet
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100% B 🙂 Altough it's not the worst to press if you already chose it because of AOE in a fight.

spice spire
gaunt moat
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if you don't vote, you let the bad guys win

subtle tundra
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who is the bad guys HUH

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i'd hate having CT in pure st though

woeful meteor
subtle tundra
slim hamlet
royal lantern
subtle tundra
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dont warlocks exist

woeful meteor
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Followed by IC lovers

subtle tundra
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has realz said anything about ic

slim hamlet
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Wait

subtle tundra
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why would you like IC

slim hamlet
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Does everyone suddenly dislike it?

subtle tundra
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i've disliked it after the 2nd week of the expansion

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🙂

slim hamlet
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IC is the aoe garrote and rupture thingy

subtle tundra
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got bored of the spec

royal lantern
# subtle tundra dont warlocks exist

warlocks heavy depeens

there are some few good warlocks that dont constantly complain about Pi, those are actually cool and good guys

balance druids have 0redeeming qualitys

woeful meteor
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probably not everyone I dislike it and I know varas does

gaunt moat
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we don't dislike it, it's very strong. but limiting.

subtle tundra
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our bleeds tickle bcs of its existance

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🙂

royal lantern
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i dislike IC cus its a bandaid and limits options heavy

slim hamlet
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Well

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Better to have it than to not have it

subtle tundra
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no

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LOL

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i'd rather play without its existance

slim hamlet
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fair

spice spire
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B. I think that maintaining dots is one of the major things our class is known to do.
Maintaining the spinning plates is a good thing;however, it does add to the button bloat issue that many argue about.
And I’d say that CT plus an Exsang effect kills the love for me almost immediately because then you have 0 time to weave in your envenoms.
The fact that it’s also just a rawdog bleed with no synergy outside of it’s a bleed is also kind of a downer. I’m not talking about VW, but even the sl legendary Doomblade got some synergy with it.
So given how it’s kind of a stand alone thing it’s a pretty generic/bland aoe ability atm.

gaunt moat
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you guys need to work on your formatting game

spice spire
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I’m on mobile and outside of a patient’s room man

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Tf you want from me

gaunt moat
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give me your account details i'll fix it for you

slim hamlet
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Doesn't sound like a scam at all

gaunt moat
spice spire
royal lantern
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doing my later reply aswell then now! timezones rock!

yeha also B, Crimson Tempest on Single Target in generel feels bad because it makes the entire spec feel very "bloated" by giving you another plate to spin that doesnt really do anything except dmg, it doesnt interact with your kit in any way, and it just beginns to feel very stressfull for no reason at all and makes the normaly good gameplay flow assassination has feel very bad

i think in general CT needs some changes, because its litearlly only "aoe dot" with nothing else, it doesnt feel like a good ability to press, and paired with the fact that Assassination can sometimes struggle with CP generation because how FoK functions on the "average" AoE enemy count most situations have, making the spec suddenly very hectic when you try to keep track of garrote/Rupture/CT/Envenom/generating CP for Rupture and CT etc....... for no payoff

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in general i would like if assassination had more "baseline" interactions with multidotting, that somewhat "solve" the "you have no real aoe in raids unless you commit extremely into it and then drop a very high amount of your ST for mediocre aoe" problem it has

like idk, Poison Bomb proc chance is 20% for each active Garrote/Rupture instead of beeing based on CP, wich would make it ~the same proc chance it has rn on ST (aka 40-48%), but gives more aoe/some form of "funnel" when you start having multiple targets (ofc numbers and all that stuff are just quick thoughts without going any deeper into it, was just something i could imagine in some form)

subtle tundra
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me when CT parries on boss but it still uses my CP

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

royal lantern
spice surge
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What boss are you playing CT on this tier? Assault i guess?

royal lantern
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if you play assa on assault ye

gaunt moat
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@royal lantern about poison bomb. Personally I'd rather have using rupture also have a chance to proc PB, reason being that it your idea becomes 100% proc rate with multiple targets.

gilded oasis
royal lantern
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oh no, seli is typing

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i did something wrong

subtle tundra
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my first memories of it is on sire

spice surge
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Ah

gusty mirage
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he has 20 motherfuckers beating on him and he took the time to deflect my ability

gilded oasis
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he hates you personally

gusty mirage
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he just like me fr

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because I also hate me personally

gilded oasis
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twinsies

gusty mirage
gilded oasis
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I play sin in m+ I am never nice to myself

gusty mirage
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god I've never related to a sentence so much

gilded oasis
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peepoHide I've actually been playing mostly sub since I got dropped from my last group hide no one wants to let me sin most the time

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but also why so much IC hate today and yesterday. I like it. Its nice to have my bleeds out and going BEFORRE a pack is deadge. and mass iron wire gets me excited

gusty mirage
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except the dropped part

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I drop myself from anyone asking me to push keys

gilded oasis
gusty mirage
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"We do keys every friday and saturday, and we want a rogue"

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"Damn that's cool, yeah I'll let you know when I'm available"

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🦗

gilded oasis
gaunt moat
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If realz is ever gonna read all this, he's gonna be like "I'm never asking a question here again peepomad "

spice spire
marble hemlock
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D, all of the above, I'll explain what I mean (without using 5000 words, hopefully)

My main issue with CT atm, is that it's our only AoE finisher but it isn't baseline or earlier in the tree. It also has no follow-up talents that alter it in any way. Personally I would like to see different skillbuilds for Assa that are somewhat competitive with one another, similar to HO vs KIR for Outlaw, or the old KB vs DTB build options we used to have.

In that world, CT would be our st finisher of choice for a bleed-centric build, that would interact in a much more complex way with the other bleeds that we have, while the poison build would continue using (and enhancing) envenom.

That could be smth like combining current bleeds into a new one, allowing us to re-cast those bleeds repeatedly (maybe a bit similar to how the crimson dance keystone works in PoE).

Obviously there's a lot more that would go into something like this, but imo with the way the spec has 2 distinct identities between Bleeds and Poisons (and not just generic Damage over Time instead), CT as a finisher in st is great, albeit plagued by a fairly short duration and low damage.

Within the current environment, in a vacuum and without considering that other parts of the spec might change, it competes too heavily with envenom, which we boost in a variety of different ways, while CT is in no way interacting with the way our rotation works, beyond adding another Lethal Dose stack. So in this environment, I'd have to go with B, simply because more maintenance for maintenance's sake is boring.

I heavily dislike the current CT in general, it's a very old ability that tried to solve the problem of Rogue not having any AoE, stemming from a time when CP and resource generation was much much slower, so spamming it basically never was a consideration. It's outlived that time and has plenty of problems as a result. As it stands, its an awful button all around, and if I were in a room with CT in ST and CT in AoE, and I had a gun with one bullet, I'd shoot myself, because neither are fun, engaging or dynamic gameplay.

spice spire
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Tl;dr

gusty mirage
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D wasn't an option

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tf

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this man playing by his own rules

marble hemlock
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well i dont think the question is dumb so C doesnt apply

gusty mirage
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fair

spice spire
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Mf couldn’t stay on task to save his life

gaunt moat
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@marble hemlock 251 words. i counted.

gusty mirage
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imagine not copying into MS Word and using their word counter

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germans are weird

gilded oasis
gilded oasis
spice spire
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I could say the sky is blue and seli would hit me with the “ackshually the sky has no color it’s just water reflecting color that you see”

gusty mirage
random tiger
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!ct

gusty mirage
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play sub rogue

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do damage

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have fun

random tiger
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ok...

gusty mirage
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don't be miserable because he wants to be miserable

random tiger
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what is ct? faq didn't say anything about it

gusty mirage
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crimson tempest

spice spire
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Crimson tempest

gusty mirage
spice spire
gusty mirage
random tiger
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oh...i must've missed it in the abbreviation tree, sorry

spice spire
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Damn you got me there

gilded oasis
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nah Im actually meh on playing sub. Like its nice to do 2 button big dammo but Id rather be playing sin. Sometimes though I just want to turn brain off and BP spam

gusty mirage
marble hemlock
gilded oasis
gusty mirage
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I'm maining writing d4 guides for wowhead

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having just as much fun

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but getting paid

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(so not much fun at all)

gilded oasis
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damn I should hit max level in D4 one day

royal lantern
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like, yeha

gilded oasis
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Im just out here making hydra build work cause I like it

gusty mirage
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procrastinate it long enough where you're rushed to get all the lilith statues and discover the entire the map for the first season

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so you just don't care to hit level 100 because you're gonna have to do it again in 2 weeks anyway

gilded oasis
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tru

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I've almost hit my diablo max for the year. I can only play it so much before I get bored

gusty mirage
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fair

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I think I've hit my wow max for the year too

gilded oasis
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Blasphem-you

gusty mirage
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I'm just trying to get @spice spire carry my rogue through some rat 16s-17s

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because it's still somehow better than pugging

spice spire
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Huh

gilded oasis
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God pugging is the worst

spice spire
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Your rogue?

gusty mirage
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yes

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my rogue

gilded oasis
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I'd rather sit on nails and never play wow again than pug (so what I am doing)

spice spire
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(Actually confused, not bming)

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Tf you need it for

gusty mirage
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because I don't want to pug

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I'm shy

spice spire
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Ur rogue juiced

marble hemlock
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need is a powerful word

spice spire
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More juiced than me man SMH

reef nacelle
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i feel your pain oxi

subtle tundra
gusty mirage
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I don't like meeting new people

subtle tundra
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😔😔😔😔😔

gusty mirage
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new people scare me

gilded oasis
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same

gusty mirage
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stop bullying me for being shy @spice spire

spice spire
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I’m not

gusty mirage
spice spire
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I’ll gladly help whatever toon

gusty mirage
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good i need a heroic clear too

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TIA

spice spire
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But your rogue doesn’t need it for sure kekdog

marble hemlock
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be careful oxi

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hes gonna invite you to a group for keys

spice spire
gusty mirage
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I pugged heroic sark, and I had to run the bombs

marble hemlock
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and then hes gonna say "we need a tank... wait nvm i have someone"

gusty mirage
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think about that for a second

spice spire
marble hemlock
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and then you see "jezartroz was invited to your group"

gusty mirage
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oh god

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my worst nightmare

spice spire
gusty mirage
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jez is a d4 main now

marble hemlock
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and hes gonna link an upper karazhan for some reason

gusty mirage
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she sits on the character select screen for hours while writing wowhead news

spice spire
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I actually do need to do keys with her ICANT

wild lantern
reef nacelle
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i will get the courage to pug normal raid before the next season. at some point.

marble hemlock
spice spire
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I know

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It’s an oxipal/quakethree angle

gusty mirage
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wait

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you're gonna jebait me into tanking for jez?

wild lantern
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it's a "jez gets hard carried because she's bad" angle

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oxi where are your articles

gusty mirage
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what articles

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you didn't assign me any

wild lantern
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you haven't signed up for anything

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I told you three times yesterday

gusty mirage
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listen bro

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I have side quests I need to finish first

wild lantern
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to go look at the cards and pick something

gusty mirage
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I'M AT WORK JEZ

spice spire
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I need oxipal to heal so he and I can be like this

gusty mirage
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I'M DOING LAWYER THINGS

wild lantern
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YOU'RE AT WORK LIKE I'M AT WORK

gusty mirage
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I'M MANAGING MY CLIENT ABOUT TO BLOW UP THIS SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT

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ON A FRIDAY

wild lantern
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PICK AN ARTICLE OR I PICK IT FOR YOU

gusty mirage
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BECAUSE HE FORGOT TO DROP OFF THE CHECK

wild lantern
gusty mirage
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"FORGOT"

gilded oasis
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smh my head

gusty mirage
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he also conveniently forgot to pay me

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CRAZY coincidences there

gilded oasis
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sounds like a dope guy

wild lantern
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man early onset alzheimers is a bitch

gusty mirage
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I'm waiting for mine to kick in

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runs in the family

wild lantern
spice spire
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@wild lantern this is a no business zone catattack

gusty mirage
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so I can forget the entirety of my young adult life

spice spire
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Are you free sometime this weekend jez?

gusty mirage
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and I can shit my pants without being judged

gilded oasis
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have you tried a lobotomy oxi I hear its great

wild lantern
gusty mirage
spice spire
gusty mirage
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it's ran by whispyr and quake

spice spire
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U 2 man wtf

wild lantern
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I am the spark before the flame

gusty mirage
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no not me

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I've actually spent more time in sub and outlaw than sin this tier

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unlucky

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they're nicer to me

spice spire
gilded oasis
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gross

gusty mirage
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plus the outlaw CFs are cuter than you are unlucky

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zaco and solo are bis

gilded oasis
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yah but they play outlaw...

gusty mirage
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yeah everyone has faults

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it's okay

spice spire
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I mean everyone is cuter than me dude. I’m a human troll wtf

gusty mirage
gusty mirage
wild lantern
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I'm slowly stealing oxi out of here and into the news channel

spice spire
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Yeah I say it to her too, about me

gilded oasis
gusty mirage
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that's not fair to him

marble hemlock
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well, used to

gilded oasis
wild lantern
spice spire
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No?

gusty mirage
wild lantern
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no shot you're marrying val and don't know

spice spire
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3 weeks before my birthday?

gusty mirage
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you have a WONDERFUL weekend mr. quake

spice spire
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Oh fuck

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You’re right

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Oh no

wild lantern
gusty mirage
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I broke up with the missus at the right time it seems

spice spire
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I’m invested. Unlucky

gilded oasis
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ok you can go back to outlaw channel now

gusty mirage
wild lantern
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WHO DELETED THAT

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IT WAS GOLD

gilded oasis
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LOL

spice spire
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Damn unsure what happened

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Wild

gusty mirage
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she wasn't talking about val

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you tyrant

gilded oasis
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get censored

spice spire
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Oh true

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@ both

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I forget about Madelyn

wild lantern
marble hemlock
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replace the R with a D

wild lantern
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no that's whispyr

gilded oasis
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Repdessed??

gusty mirage
spice spire
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Who isn’t depressed there

gusty mirage
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will seli and whispyr finally meet?

gilded oasis
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Sin channel gonna be wild for a month

gusty mirage
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find out on the next episode of RH: assassination

spice spire
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Wdym

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I think the bigger question is

marble hemlock
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cant meet if were the same person

spice spire
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After this one will the ever be another podcast

wild lantern
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sin boutta go off the rails when whispyr shows up at 2am drunk off his ass and starts roasting everyone

spice spire
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No one knows

gusty mirage
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seli thought it was still thursday

gusty mirage
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the other 2 provided 0 ideas

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good times

marble hemlock
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not my fault okay

gusty mirage
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so seli essentially did everyone's homework for them

gilded oasis
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sounds like a normal group project

gusty mirage
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the smart one doing all the work

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true

gusty mirage
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dw I'll get that episode uploaded to spotify

marble hemlock
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oh yeah we needed a synopsis

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brb

gilded oasis
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"talk about shit"

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boom

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there

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synopsis done

gusty mirage
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this is your guys' faults

marble hemlock
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yeah i unironically dont remember what we talked about last time

green juniper
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No pinned messages means no change at new patch?

gusty mirage
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thankfully I didn't even listen

gilded oasis
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same

spice spire
marble hemlock
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im sure it was comedic and intellectual gold

gusty mirage
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I answered this same exact question last week for you

gilded oasis
gusty mirage
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Rogue changes aren't happening until 10.2

green juniper
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Guess i’ll keep no playing

green juniper
gilded oasis
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Friends lie, get rid of them

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solo life

gusty mirage
spice spire
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Ig solo is life

gusty mirage
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why would you tag him in here

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what did he do to deserve that

spice spire
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He returned

green juniper
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Solo has beautiful dc profile tho geez

spice spire
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Solo’s just beautiful SoCute

gilded oasis
weak hearth
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Hi, i am a bit confused right now, maybe you guys can help me. Sub and Outlaw get a damage compensation for losing the annulet and Assa dowsnt. Why? It's like 8% of my damage.

thorn fjord
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Rings were out simming annulet before the nerf so guessing the dmg profile for sin didnt need it as much

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The added buff i mean

weak hearth
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i got two 441 rings which sim lower than the annulet. 😦 Guess I need another 447 crafted to break even... meh

thorn fjord
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You can sim to ptr now to plan ahead

crimson snow
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hmm is shadowmeld worth it in m+ against the dwarf racials as an Assa rogue? I feel like the defensive + 2% crit dmg might overall be better than being able to re-apply enhanced garrotes from stealth

gusty mirage
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if you're making the decision today

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dwarf all day

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depending on what happens with the upcoming rework, it could make nelf more valuable but dwarf racials are just giga op

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I was nelf and started to hate how all my mogs looked on the new model so I simmed it for shiggles

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that's just ST too

crimson snow
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Ye.. I'm currently Dwarf, used to be Nelf before but then temporarily switched to Sub for a few months, now came back to Assa so I was thinking if it's worth switching back to Nelf or should stay Dwarf..

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ye for ST dwarf sims better, but for M+ there's no way I can sim the utility of meld on packs especially when pug tanks are chainpulling

slim hamlet
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Highmountain Tauren on top

gusty mirage
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problem with meld is sometimes it won't drop combat

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on trash

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and I would use it to grief ranged in my keys that wouldn't kick

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I'd meld casts on me on them

slim hamlet
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based

crimson snow
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hahaha true, used to do that too

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had to use it defensively more times then I could count just to save myself

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but with how many bleeds,curses and other debuffs are currently, I felt like dwarf saved me more

gusty mirage
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yeah every time I'd die to a bleed or other debuff

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I'd regret not being dwarf

idle inlet
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I don't know why but I thought I heard they were making changes to the class trinkets but I couldn't find it anywhere. Is there any coming?

slim hamlet
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Choosing the coolest looking race pepe_chad

gusty mirage
#

that's why I settled at velf

#

I was about to go back blood elf but torrent is awful

#

it's such an awkward gcd

#

you don't really need the energy anymore

#

it only has a few niche uses in keys these days

gilded oasis
#

yeah but my mogs look good

slim hamlet
#

Was kinda nice sometimes in 10.0 at least

gusty mirage
#

that's why I went velf :3

slim hamlet
#

Also whenever your randoms in dungeons didnt dispell

gilded oasis
#

Yeah but Im horde

gusty mirage
#

yeah belf was more useful last tier for sure

slim hamlet
#

Haven't played this tier at all

gusty mirage
#

but belf/velf aesthetic in mogs

#

is just

slim hamlet
#

Exactly

#

at least for rogue

gusty mirage
#

legit look good in everything for rogue

idle inlet
spice spire
#

Velf is just alliance belf

runic hinge
#

I think the 4 set or annualet keep you in combat and make meld not work

gusty mirage
spice spire
#

True

#

Race change inc bestie

gusty mirage
#

cause it was doing it w/o annulet too for me

#

also anything that is just an "all aoe" cast

runic hinge
#

2 set? Maybe. Idk. Sometimes I die and release and I can’t even mount

gusty mirage
#

like shadowbolt volley in UR

#

just puts everyone in combat

#

regardless

spice spire
#

For me it’s the freaking class trinket

#

🙂

gusty mirage
#

so you go to meld -> stealth -> gar

#

and a cast is going off that keeps you in combat

#

and you just want to scream

runic hinge
#

I cannot tell you how many times the class trinket procs on my last gcd of a pack

spice spire
#

Yeah :^)

gusty mirage
#

imagine having a class trinket

runic hinge
#

I stopped using it in keys now because I have dice and half my guild group has essence

deft flicker
spice spire
#

Bro shut the fuck up.
0 bomb dispensers 0 essences 0 beacons 0 bitches 1 437 dice

#

And a class trinket

#

Legit no variety, no bitches

gusty mirage
#

and one of them is a 421 boon

#

fight me irl

#

I got gifted ONE trinket all tier

#

beacon in first vault

gilded oasis
#

I have 2 trinkets. 1 bomb and 1 anvil

gusty mirage
#

I farmed out the rest of these useless fucking trinkets myself

spice spire
#

One more gift than I’ve been given

gilded oasis
#

oh and 1 fragment but thats booty so it doesnt count

gusty mirage
#

you got to play with blackvneck

#

is that not a gift?

#

HOW DARE YOU

spice spire
#

That’s true

gusty mirage
#

listen his dps may suck

#

but his mog

#

ON POINT

spice spire
#

Then I spit in your face by playing during sanguine

storm belfry
#

I have bomb dispenser and 447 dice

spice spire
#

Nah, sanguine + destro lock bad combo

gusty mirage
#

look at that mog

storm belfry
slim hamlet
#

what in the fuck

#

is even that

idle inlet
gusty mirage
#

that was the only requirement besides looking terrible

spice spire
#

Ain’t on me

storm belfry
#

Oxi was my tank and I was destro

spice spire
#

Also cyon when you healing me

storm belfry
#

Whenever you want

spice spire
#

Now I’m tryna be with the homies

storm belfry
#

I need keys

gusty mirage
#

checklist for my warlock's mog:

  • Black v-neck? check
  • Shitty Tmog check
gusty mirage
#

unlike

#

OTHER

#

PEOPLE

spice spire
#

Bro

#

I pulled legit 15 mobs at a time

#

And shit died

storm belfry
#

I’m also p based and I send my rof off the mobs if my proc is up

spice spire
#

So like

#

I had to move

storm belfry
gusty mirage
#

cyon is a certified gamer

storm belfry
#

But sometimes I failed

gusty mirage
#

he gets the oxi stamp of approval

#

will play with again

storm belfry
#

Oxipal kinda goated

gusty mirage
#

oxipal is big now

spice spire
#

Oxipal is massive now

storm belfry
#

My lock is still so ratty

gusty mirage
spice spire
#

Like dude is a whole ass tank

storm belfry
#

Damn that’s huge

#

My lock still 432 LMAO

spice spire
#

Q3 still lowkey ratty

#

415 whetstone

storm belfry
#

Oh lord lmao

gusty mirage
#

just need wyrms crests

storm belfry
#

I need All the crests

gusty mirage
#

and I can prolly get 443/444?

spice spire
#

I did that grustle on q3 whoof

storm belfry
#

I am busy w TGP shenanigans this weekend tho sadly

#

Doing some bs w some guildies

gusty mirage
#

@spice spire 🥲

storm belfry
#

Can probs be around on Sunday for healage alooj

#

I am starting to feel the No box on my rogue tho in raid

spice spire
#

Yeah was free outside of one or two pulls that oxipal fleeced me on

#

Was a chill key

gusty mirage
#

@storm belfry 🥲

spice spire
#

Enjoyed it

storm belfry
#

I haven’t done a key on my rogue in idk how long

storm belfry
gusty mirage
#

even got whispyr in on the oxipal train

storm belfry
#

Super lazy on the rogue

gilded oasis
#

holy moly

storm belfry
gusty mirage
#

don't blame you

storm belfry
#

Mfs been 441 this whole time

gusty mirage
#

keys on rogue aren't fun

storm belfry
#

Well I hit 441 and I just geared my Druid. Hit 441 as well on that. Then kinda played other games outside of raid. Then starting to gear lock and here we are now

gusty mirage
#

esp if you're alting warlock

spice spire
#

Wait is that the infamous wogmyhog

gusty mirage
#

you ask yourself why you ever play a rogue in keys lol

gusty mirage
spice spire
#

AkA topplethenun

#

Tuck

#

Fuck even

storm belfry
#

It’s wild I do about the same if not more than my rogue who is 10 ilvls higher roughly than my lock

spice spire
#

Is it that wild

storm belfry
#

Not for me. I’m ass

#

Not as in the spec

#

But I am ass at sub idk

gusty mirage
#

just do what I do

#

and bother stealthi

storm belfry
#

AOE is easy. ST shit I just fuck up even tho I know it’s easy

spice spire
#

Bro it’s two buttons and who cares about st ur pumping

storm belfry
#

LMAO

gusty mirage
#

I let stealthi pick my talents for a dungeon once

storm belfry
#

I haven’t done a key w the bomb trinket or my 447 dice

#

Legit rolled it and that was GG

spice spire
#

The st thing is legit just sequence during dance

#

Wait HUH

gusty mirage
#

ST: sectech 2nd global

#

gloomblade if 2nd ss doesn't give you max-1 or max cp for that sec tech

storm belfry
#

What are you saying huh too

gusty mirage
#

then it's just ss > evis

#

keep up rupture

#

sub's ST rotation is chill AF

storm belfry
#

See I ran out of button space so I just ss instead of gloom

#

Is that a dps loss

gusty mirage
#

you can also min max vanish by vanishing striking in that first dance

#

yes

#

but probably not enough for you to care

storm belfry
#

How is it a dps loss

#

How much

gusty mirage
#

depends

#

do you have find weakness up

#

if not

#

a lot

#

the gloomblade almost guarantees FW for the dance

storm belfry
#

I thought it was just for combos

gusty mirage
#

that too

storm belfry
#

Oh can’t I just shuriken storm then

gusty mirage
#

you can yes

storm belfry
#

Or shuriken whatever

#

Naruto that shit

gusty mirage
#

sub is giga chill

#

idk why people are hating on it

storm belfry
#

I just love sin man. I’m a sick man

#

I love that shit in AOE. Ngl idk. I’m fucked

gusty mirage
#

I mean I do too

#

I just love doing damage though

#

as a damage dealer in dungeons

#

I like to partake in the dealing of damage

#

ya know

gilded oasis
#

seems sus

storm belfry
#

I should do a key

#

And pump

spice spire
gilded oasis
#

musta been a different zar that looks just like me

spice spire
#

Oh my apologies

#

Ty fellow assassination gamer

storm belfry
spice spire
#

The battle of our time

storm belfry
#

There is not enough time in the day man

spice spire
#

Stealthi vs WideGeorgeHappy

spice spire
#

New icon battle

storm belfry
deft flicker
#

Why’d they want to fight

main vessel
spice spire
#

God I’d wog your hog man

spice spire
deft flicker
#

Here

earnest remnant
cerulean nest
#

would you guys recommend progging Nelth on sub or sin?

#

starting next week and I'd like to be the most helpful

gusty mirage
gusty mirage
#

cause at the end of p2 you're holding CDs for the start of p3

gusty mirage
#

cause the boss will 100% go immune

storm belfry
#

We are on nelth atm. Just started last night

gusty mirage
storm belfry
#

Got to p2 quite a bit

vapid sierra
#

Guild is on rashok rn

#

We haven’t even entered the tunnel

storm belfry
#

Tell ppl to stop getting hit by lava waves

#

That’s usually the issue lol

gilded oasis
#

we're wiping on doggo cause people cant stop dying 30 seconds in with their 4/5 heroic gear and not 447 crafted gear

storm belfry
#

On magmorax?

gilded oasis
#

yeah

#

I actually thought Rashok wasnt bad. Just wish waves were maybe a different color

gusty mirage
#

a lot of people underestimate magmorax

storm belfry
#

My gear is shit and I never felt like I was dying on that fight til the very end

#

If it’s at the start then something else may be wrong

gilded oasis
#

thats toxic

storm belfry
spice spire
storm belfry
#

Lmao I saw that

gusty mirage
#

saw what

gilded oasis
#

I cant be that mean in public

spice spire
#

Nothing at all

gusty mirage
#

exactly

gilded oasis
#

yea you saw it but its not there forever now

storm belfry
#

Like I haven’t gotten any sparks in a month on my rogue and I’m sitting at 440

gusty mirage
#

Zar is a wonderful individual

spice spire
#

Zar is v wholesome and loves their guild

gusty mirage
#

toxicity is not in their blood

spice spire
gusty mirage
#

and anyone who says otherwise?

storm belfry
#

Tell healers to heal more

storm belfry
spice spire
gusty mirage
#

damn zar hit me with that ion d

#

unlucky

gilded oasis
#

wym thats the best emote

gusty mirage
#

what if I told you

#

I have one better

spice spire
gusty mirage
spice spire
storm belfry
#

Okay I lied. I’m 442 but I’m actually a rat

gusty mirage
storm belfry
gusty mirage
#

I need to find that picture for christmas time

storm belfry
#

A lot

gusty mirage
#

that was me on painsmith prog

#

lol

storm belfry
#

Lmfao

spice spire
#

Yeah :^)

gusty mirage
#

listen man

#

the OG oxi emotes are bangers

#

but the new ones are mint

#

vs

storm belfry
#

My emotes look like your 2nd one

gilded oasis
#

I like the 2nd styles but 1st isnt bad

storm belfry
gusty mirage
#

this was always my fav

storm belfry
#

Yeah both of Oxis look great

storm belfry
gusty mirage
storm belfry
storm belfry
deft flicker
gusty mirage
storm belfry
#

Can get @spice spire in there as well ZOOMEReyes

gusty mirage
#

I like this one

#

george emotes are bis

gilded oasis
#

thats p cute

storm belfry
#

Dog emotes are goated

gusty mirage
#

we all love george

#

the goodest of boys

storm belfry
#

I am even more biased to those cause our dogs look so similar

gusty mirage
#

look at him

#

@spice spire give george a treat from me pls

storm belfry
#

I know. So cute aPES_Love

gusty mirage
#

when you get home

storm belfry
#

We’ve dmd each other to show our dogs lmao

gusty mirage
#

wtf

storm belfry
#

Mine is older though

gusty mirage
#

that's rude

#

imagine withholding the doggo pics

storm belfry
#

Could be his dad or older brother

spice spire
#

Cyon’s dog is v cute

#

And I shall

#

Val’s home with him today

deft flicker
#

Not a dog person myself but George is definitely one of the good ones

gusty mirage
#

also tell him that I love him

#

he may not know who I am

#

but he needs to know I love him

spice spire
#

He does know

idle inlet
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
gilded oasis
#

careful you might summon him

spice spire
#

No shot

#

That’s him rn

storm belfry
#

Can’t find anything recent atm that isn’t a video lol

gilded oasis
storm belfry
#

Then there is Belle. Much younger. she turned 4 this past year iirc

#

@gusty mirage

spice spire
gusty mirage
#

this is me every morning

#

except not as cute

spice spire
#

Real

storm belfry
#

Lmao

#

I had came back home from somewhere and found him on our bed just living his best life

gusty mirage
#

he's giving you the doggo eyes

#

"why did you take so long mfer?"

spice spire
#

George when I get home

storm belfry
thorn fjord
#

I want a dog 😞

gusty mirage
thorn fjord
#

Been having a hard time staying awake during prog @gusty mirage

#

Feelsbad

gusty mirage
#

there you go

#

should tide you over for the rest of prog

thorn fjord
#

Jesus

gusty mirage
#

bro listen to it and try to get mad

#

you can't

thorn fjord
#

You underestimate my powers

gusty mirage
#

bro I'm telling you

thorn fjord
#

Zsakarn is not a fun fight

gusty mirage
#

it's impossible

thorn fjord
#

It’s not even hard it’s just shitty as melee

#

And our range don’t like to kick apparently

storm belfry
#

I was supposed to be in on zskarn

#

But I was sick the whole prog

gusty mirage
#

it's my #1 suggestion for anyone struggling with their mental on prog

thorn fjord
#

You feeling better now @storm belfry

storm belfry
#

I also missed out on rashok. Had a 1% wipe. Then I couldn’t be there the next night for work

#

So I missed out on both bosses why

storm belfry
storm belfry
#

Luckily no bomb dispenser dropped while I was out

thorn fjord
#

Those things drop like hot cakes

#

I have 0 upgrades available through heroic

#

We’re extending now too so no loots for a while

#

Nothing to be excited for

keen spruce
#

we've had 0 essences, 2 bomb dispensers, 0 ass candy

#

in heroic

#

the whole tier

#

lol

thorn fjord
#

That’s crazy

gusty mirage
#

we've had like

#

5 total class trinkets

thorn fjord
#

We had back to back weeks where double essence dropped

gusty mirage
#

and 1 of them was a warlock one

#

our other warlock is on the pain train

#

he's been doing nelth on lfr, normal, and heroic for a while

#

and nada

storm belfry
#

One of our warlocks can’t get the class trinket

thorn fjord
#

Rough

gusty mirage
#

yep

storm belfry
#

I feel bad cause our other locks do

gusty mirage
#

I'm scared to do nelth on my lock

thorn fjord
#

Our evoker has had the worst luck with staff

gusty mirage
#

cause if I loot it

storm belfry
#

I think I’m the only bomb dispenser haver

thorn fjord
#

It’s become a meme

gusty mirage
#

I'll feel SO bad

#

btw

#

the legendary

#

isn't 100% on mythic

#

enjoy that tidbit of info

thorn fjord
#

Lol

storm belfry
gusty mirage
#

we've had ONE legendary drop

#

and it dropped for our prevoker

#

lol

storm belfry
#

And btw. I got rashoks twice on my Druid

#

So I feel you LOL

gusty mirage
#

we got one rashok's I think raw drop

storm belfry
#

But I been trying to get the trinket for my lock. Lowkey inside I hope I don’t get it

gusty mirage
#

the rest came from vault/weeklies

storm belfry
#

So my lock won’t feel bad

gusty mirage
storm belfry
#

I got rashoks from vault. Then I looted it from weekly quest

gusty mirage
#

if I loot it on my lock I'mma feel so bad man

#

I told him on the normal we did last week

#

if it drops I'm gonna roll on it to give it to him

#

and I won't accept no as an answer

storm belfry
#

Yeah I can never join my buddy to help him

#

Our times are diff outside of raid

white orchid
#

I still don’t have beacon or a bomb and I do lfr and normal and heroic every week lol.

thorn fjord
#

One of our benched evokers got three staff and she couldn’t trade it

#

Off heroic

storm belfry
#

I haven’t bothered trying to get bacon

#

Our evoker finally got the legendary from a N pug LOL

#

That shit should be M only man. Idc

#

And guaranteed or something idk

pure moth
#

Yeah we have an alt evoker with leggo but not our main evokers

storm belfry
#

I was gonna try for my evoker to get it just to see my luck. Cause I looted the evoker staff last season the 2nd week of playing and procced leech OMEGAKEKW

#

But I cba cause ours didn’t have it

thorn fjord
#

Our evoker posted this today lol

storm belfry
#

I mean I think it should just be mythic only. So the random attempts stop

thorn fjord
#

Poor guy it always happens to him regardless of the class he plays and he’s one of our better players

storm belfry
#

Also at 457. Why should someone get that from N

thorn fjord
#

He was UHDK last tier and couldn’t get PB for the life of him

storm belfry
#

Damn

thorn fjord
#

So it’s become a meme

storm belfry
#

The game toys w him

thorn fjord
#

Yep

storm belfry
#

The game PLAYS him

thorn fjord
#

Wonder if AA comes back next season

storm belfry
#

I loved that place tbh

thorn fjord
#

It was fun I’ll agree

#

I didn’t hate it

storm belfry
#

I wanna go for 1mil higher than I did previously

thorn fjord
#

Sub is simming higher for me again by like 1.3%

spice spire
#

Traitor

storm belfry
#

Mine is 100 dps diff in ST

#

And it’s 100 dps less actually

#

Than sin

thorn fjord
# spice spire Traitor

Still playing sin… it’s just so much easier maintaining higher dps output outside of pull for me

#

Less work

vestal wren
storm belfry
#

True

thorn fjord
storm belfry
#

Also hello fuu

#

Mega dungeon is likely dieslow

#

To be split

vestal wren
thorn fjord
#

Oh right lol

slim hamlet
#

Will be pog

storm belfry
vestal wren
#

would wait to play them

storm belfry
#

Can’t wait to get cutting edge in .5 for both RAID and Mythic 0

thorn fjord
#

I really hope we finish this tier before the end of august

#

Because I really don’t want to keep progging in to sept

storm belfry
#

I hope I’m done before the 18th of august

#

That’s the due date we got today

thorn fjord
spice spire
#

Congrats homie SoCute

#

That was when I was supposed to be born too

storm belfry
#

Smilegers thanks guys

slim hamlet
#

oh

storm belfry
#

Oh pog

spice spire
#

And I popped out 22 days early

storm belfry
#

It’s a week off my moms birthday

slim hamlet
#

I was like due for what

storm belfry
#

My 2nd child

thorn fjord
#

Bless up bro

gusty mirage
#

the fact that the legendary isn't a 100% drop chance on mythic

#

is fucking wild to me

storm belfry
#

Forming my own gold farmers

thorn fjord
#

We want another one too

storm belfry
#

I’m snipping up after this

slim hamlet
storm belfry
#

I think it’s really dumb that you can get it on N

#

Like I’m happy ours did but

#

That shouldn’t be a thing lmao

gusty mirage
#

I think other avenues of getting it are fine

thorn fjord
#

Guess since it’s not only mythic they couldn’t make it 100% drop

gusty mirage
#

getting it on normal is a SUPER rare chance

#

it should be 100% on mythic

#

reward people for clearing the hardest content

#

idk

storm belfry
#

I had an evoker who had it who was 445 ilvl and I was on my lock and he was so cocky before the key starts. Like wondering why I was invited type shit. And I was only 9k under him at the end

thorn fjord
#

I’ve seen it drop twice on heroic

storm belfry
#

Don’t give a legendary to ppl that don’t deserve it!

gusty mirage
#

I've seen it drop once

#

total

storm belfry
#

I’ve only seen screenshots MeowShake

#

I think the same should be done about the mount

#

But that’s another story

spice spire
#

@deft sluice needs to try more tbh

storm belfry
#

Mount isn’t even rare anymore man

spice spire
#

Man only did every mode every week to do it

storm belfry
#

Got little timmies out here with it

#

For the TGP shenanigans I’m going w class trinket and beacon. Any thoughts on swapping for something else

#

Is essence any good if we all wore it

thorn fjord
#

Once you have beacon and dispenser you don’t switch to anything else tbh

storm belfry
#

I don’t think our evoker wants to wear it

thorn fjord
#

Not even worth looking at the others

#

Pulled a 447 Dice from GV this week and I didnt even take it

#

Was still pretty far behind

storm belfry
#

This is on tourney realm

storm belfry
gusty mirage
#

uh

#

ngl

#

beacon's a 2.5 min CD

#

so its kinda scuffed

#

it's only really giga for bosses with damage amps

#

like harlan

#

last boss in nelth

#

chain boss in nelth

#

and for nuking adds

#

brackenhide totem/skynova in VP

storm belfry
#

The dungeons we have are FH tyran

#

And fort ulda

#

Was thinking beacon on FH for sure

deft sluice
thorn fjord
#

Im still using Boon and Dispenser in M+

#

But im also playing Sub in M+

storm belfry
#

Idk if I can buy boon

#

I didn’t see it on any vendors

thorn fjord
#

If you had it before just restore it

#

Ohh on tourney

#

Derp

storm belfry
#

Bro I’m talking tourney realm lmao

thorn fjord
#

yeah yeah mb

storm belfry
#

I still have boon too

#

Love that shit tbh

thorn fjord
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Im lazy so if im not trying to get sweaty ill just keep beacon/dispenser in keys

gusty mirage
storm belfry
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Yeah man

tacit otter
storm belfry
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We are just memeing for the toy. Nothing serious but our comp is VDH, Hpriest, Devoker, warlock and myself

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I might heal a few as well and the priest will go shadow

tacit otter
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sounds fun, gl on that:)

storm belfry
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Thanks homie

woeful wigeon
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typical blizzard again no reveal for sin

gilded oasis
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I mean theyve already said it was pushed back and coming at a later time at this point. afaik those particular changes are to account for annulet nerfs