bro
#assassination
gusty mirage
woeful meteor
storm belfry
The only buff we don’t have is mage buff
half dawn
no shammy for totem
spice spire
No warrior on most pulls?
gusty mirage
no mark
balmy condor
this log hurst my eyes
gusty mirage
spice spire
HUH
storm belfry
That’s crazy
half dawn
warrior came in on last 5
storm belfry
gusty mirage
spice spire
NO BATTLESHOUT?
Me this week
half dawn
🙃
spice spire
storm belfry
Your RL needs to organize better
limber lion
Looks like your guild doesn't even want to kill the boss or progress the raid
Unlucky
half dawn
its a pretty casual guild tbh
storm belfry
Understatement
spice spire
Bodies are important but like.
These are some fairly major things
gusty mirage
warrior is kinda necessary on every boss
half dawn
we only killed 7/8 last patch and that was locking out after dathea
storm belfry
Or maybe wrong word even
gusty mirage
rally is just too good
storm belfry
I mean that’s not terrible but like
gusty mirage
even looking past bshout
storm belfry
Not having those raid buffs
spice spire
Rally + shout is insane value
storm belfry
Is just insane
idle inlet
I'll Trade you a warrior for an enhance
gusty mirage
he doesn't have that either
limber lion
No monk, no warrior, no wft, no druid
half dawn
we dont have enha
gusty mirage
stop trying to kick the man when he's down
half dawn
idle inlet
Lol
half dawn
me when I play sub tbh
but yeah
you should see my logs from assault
lol
required to go full ST
storm belfry
I don’t have beacon either
half dawn
sub full ST banned from touching adds 💀
limber lion
That's fine
half dawn
yeah feels bad, meanwhile SP gets to pad 
half dawn
well u dont even know the worst part
woeful meteor
/gquit can sace anyone
half dawn
40% of the pulls on thi boss
thorn fjord
We're pushing close to 185 pulls on Rashok
thorn fjord
Pain is life life is pain
burnt latch
The fact that someone is actively making decisions in your guild is impressive tho
limber lion
were ninjapulls
My guy, that is not the worst part
burnt latch
Big up that guy
half dawn
i dont think we have comp decisions tbh
gusty mirage
We're pushing close to 185 pulls on Rashok
you what m8?
half dawn
My guy, that is not the worst part
what is the worst part
burnt latch
U think?
thorn fjord
you what m8?
We SUCK
woeful meteor
I pulled rashok this raid without Priest and monk aswell was giga
limber lion
Those don't account for hundreds of thousands of dps
spice spire
Big up that guy
Why are you this way
half dawn
well, the RL is never gonna ask us to reroll specs
thorn fjord
And its so sick not being able to play D4 since the last patch... Blizz broke the fucking game for me
spice spire
thorn fjord
I'm so triggered right now LMAO
half dawn
if anything the melee will get benched even though we dont have buffs 
I already geared my boomie to 440
burnt latch
Theres no shot people in this guild are actively trying too, like gearing characters and sacrificing for bossmans tactics
Bossman must be charming as fuck
U guys eu? Im gonna apply i wanna chill in homies presence
half dawn
no i geared boomie for fun, because M+ is awful
i dont really wanna switch from rogue
might do it for the buffs lmfao
burnt latch
You know how it is, if u get assigned to do it what choice do you have
Id go for it
Makes the bossman happy
half dawn
idk man
ngl but being stuck on this shit for last 5 raid nights is getting tilting
with zero progress
or what feels like zero prog
thorn fjord
Only 5?
half dawn
so many wipes after 1st intermission
burnt latch
How do you guys do 5 nights 90 pulls
half dawn
we raid 2 night a week
gusty mirage
problem with rashok
burnt latch
For 1 hour a night?
half dawn
I think its more than 90 pulls now
thorn fjord
Our problem is people cant avoid the fucking lava waves
thorn fjord
its a joke lol
gusty mirage
Our problem is people cant avoid the fucking lava waves
see?
half dawn
idk how to check total pull count
half dawn
For 1 hour a night?
3h raids
loud light
idk how to check total pull count
I don't know if you'll be happy about this link, but https://progstats.io/details/eu/kazzak/674471-Limited-Edition/all/33-aberrus
thorn fjord
183 pulls in with multiple sub 10% pulls and we keep dying to enrage
gusty mirage
idk how to check total pull count
burnt latch
God the trenches are real ive forgotten about what goes on down there
thorn fjord
because people cant stay out of bad
burnt latch
I wish all my homies stay strong, someones gotta keep the beds warm
thorn fjord
And then after Rash finally dies we get to stay in zsacarn purgotory
burnt latch
15 hours of raiding and 83 pulls, bossman is really making sandwiches inbetween pulls holding the raid hostage
gusty mirage
And then after Rash finally dies we get to stay in zsacarn purgotory
new zskarn is a lot easier
thorn fjord
new zskarn is a lot easier
I fucking hope so lol
woeful meteor
God the trenches are real ive forgotten about what goes on down there
you guys have a specific goal for next tier or just keeping top 30
burnt latch
GOD he is hot i wanna apply even more
cobalt hemlock
<:Starege:933784562167853136>
we are 80 pulls into experiments 
gusty mirage
woeful meteor
Sparkcieft prepping for Rashok prog
loud light
we are 80 pulls into experiments <:starege:923197272064426075>
oh no
eager solstice
How’s zscarn feeling after nerfs?
gusty mirage
bro I remember us taking 44 to kill experiments
and I felt like we were throwing
my god
burnt latch
you guys have a specific goal for next tier or just keeping top 30
No clue bruder wrong guy to ask
Sparkcieft is a real one tbh
half dawn
experiments is such a boring fight and you feel like you ant do anything about it getting wiped
cobalt hemlock
same mistakes same people deprression
half dawn
rashok, 1 person dies and its a wipe
burnt latch
Guy hasnt seen 10.1 yet should log him in and show him the plaves
half dawn
just end me
gusty mirage
to all my homies out there
woeful meteor
also is this accurate dont have many finns to survey
gusty mirage
Sparkcieft is a real one tbh
dear god
thorn fjord
I wish i was free like you @gusty mirage
half dawn
2 days a week raiding is the vibe though
gusty mirage
also is this accurate dont have many finns to survey
ask cev and warcieft
thorn fjord
I dont want to raid anymore this tier 😢
gusty mirage
and ramlu
loud light
experiments felt like absolute pain until dummies started respecting calls to get to the dispel spot on time
gusty mirage
I wish i was free like you <@192059095279337473>
no you don't
half dawn
experiments felt like absolute pain until dummies started respecting calls to ge...
imagine giving the boss like 120m shield several pulls in a row
🤣
woeful meteor
Just walk aways 
half dawn
262 pulls is a lot
thorn fjord
I imagine our sark pull count is going to be insane
half dawn
most i've had was 140 (i think?) on mythic cenarius in legion
gusty mirage
I imagine our sark pull count is going to be insane
I mean spend a few more weeks on rashok
boss should be gut by the time you get there
😛
thorn fjord
raz took us 230
gusty mirage
thorn fjord
ooof
gusty mirage
sure
burnt latch
gusty mirage
we killed it in march
burnt latch
A moment of silence to these champs
gusty mirage
nexus sx?
half dawn
@gusty mirage do you know what the dps gain is for Assa having Warrior + Monk + Druid + Windfurry v.s not having it?
gusty mirage
<@192059095279337473> do you know what the dps gain is for Assa having Warrior +...
I can actually find that out for you, sec
woeful meteor
Imperative-Kazzak, Watchyourfeet-Twisting
burnt latch
3 Spriests?
Their comps fucking cracked too
woeful meteor
there are a lot of bangers like that this Tier I feel
blazing jewel
A moment of silence to these champs
my irl friends
burnt latch
For that bosså#
burnt latch
my irl friends
LOL what
clever sapphire
my irl friends
Your what? What is this "irl"
half dawn
Well, I gues I am not in the final circle of hell it seems
gusty mirage
<@192059095279337473> do you know what the dps gain is for Assa having Warrior +...
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/41HZLYemGR8Zc1rA7KvMQj with all raid buffs
blazing jewel
those are my friends from two guilds back
gusty mirage
without
clever sapphire
My friends have joined the second guild, and this new one still cant kill experiments, they are over 100 pulls in with the old guilds pulls
blazing jewel
irl friends are on heroic sark
keen spruce
keen spruce
burnt latch
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/41HZLYemGR8Zc1rA7KvMQj with all raid buff...
Okay mister big shot no need to flex you sim over here, give the rest of us a chance
blazing jewel
Okay mister big shot no need to flex you sim over here, give the rest of us a ch...
dudes trying to get us excited or something
thorn fjord
We flexing sims?
burnt latch
Just casually dropping the 124k simbomb
thorn fjord
I wanna flex
burnt latch
Sheesh
half dawn
is that even high or normal for our gear idfk
burnt latch
Idk think its hot af
thorn fjord
Fuck yeah
tacit otter
thorn fjord
You’ll get through it
half dawn
and work on finding out how to live with my team through meditation and hard drugs
burnt latch
welp thanks for taking the time to look at my logs
No worries mate try to get your guildies in here too ! I know a thing or two about everything
thorn fjord
and work on finding out how to live with my team through meditation and hard dru...
I haven’t left my guild because a lot of them have become irl friends
Some of leadership have been questioning leaving
thorn fjord
One of our better players was gonna trial for temerity lol
spice spire
No worries mate try to get your guildies in here too ! I know a thing or two abo...
Sir herbo
burnt latch
Yes my kind sir?
thorn fjord
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/41HZLYemGR8Zc1rA7KvMQj with all raid buff...
Gonna suck so bad when the ring nerfs hit
Currently I have no back ups 😬
But I don’t want to run m+
clever sapphire
I still solo pug m+ 💀
This made me quit the game, i cant anymore
Solo pugging is the worst
Unless you are SP
half dawn
i did it last season to 3.1k as outlaw
winter gale
I lost the track, is this week 1/2 spark or 2/2 spark?
I need that ring
half dawn
this season i got to 2.8k and said fuck it
thorn fjord
Solo pugging isn’t that bad
thorn fjord
I lost the track, is this week 1/2 spark or 2/2 spark?
I need that ring
Half week
half dawn
can't deal with 2 weeks when incorp / afflicted are here
can't reliably*
ofc blind works
healer nerfs meaning nobody wants to heal, and the healers you get can't heal
winter gale
Half week
So, I just got spark from killing Magmo Mythic
Will I then not get it from the quest?
thorn fjord
The quest should still give I think but I’m not 100% sure
I’m the wrong person to ask
winter gale
Im not behind on it 100%
clever sapphire
You should only be able to get a spark if you didnt do the quest the week before
As far as i knkw
Know*
clever sapphire
I mean thats how it worked on my main
thorn fjord
well half spark
clever sapphire
I never did the quest
So i was always half a spark behind
But had the quest
Unless they added some 2% drop chance to get a spark randomly or whatnot like in S1
gusty mirage
Currently I have no back ups 😬
craft one?
thorn fjord
Yeah that’s the plan
It’s gonna want crit haste but I think I’m just gonna crit mast it
dense jolt
did this ever happen for 10.1.5? I only ever remember seeing 10% blade flurry damage compared to the essay of changes for mage and hpal
proven jasper
dense jolt
I suppose its right there, next to the SL crimson vial + pickpocket interaction rework
dull cloak
they are slowly reworking our damage from borrowed power into abilities
gaunt moat
I came to a conclusion
You 100% should take Elusivness on Magmarox instead of cheat death
What kills you is if you've got the soak that everyone need to take
i don't think you can feint it either cause you are the target
but with elusivness you could.
gaunt moat
Cooking a tip for everyone that are now gonna get to him 
gusty mirage
i don't think you can feint it either cause you are the target
you can
but still cheat is fucking useless on that fight
elusiveness is 100% the play imo
south burrow
hey so in the talents area of wowhead the sepsis build doesnt run kingsbane or exsang, do we usually run those for ST?
gusty mirage
kingsbane is worse than dragon tempered in every single scenario that lasts longer than like 45s
and exsang is dead
south burrow
ah, thank you new to sin, its super fun but also rough to learn as I've never played a dot class before
gusty mirage
south burrow
apes strong together
pure comet
vapid flicker
do i still not take exsang with 4 piece?
limber lion
Never
onyx crane
and exsang is dead
I see that as a win
wide bolt
we dont fok for funnel on echo mythic right? we just do normal ST shit yea?
balmy condor
we dont fok for funnel on echo mythic right? we just do normal ST shit yea?
in p3 you would fok funnel
wide bolt
in p3 you would fok funnel
ty wasnt sure which did more ST
guess theres enough adds its basically SStorm huh lol
spice surge
Assassination funnels while sub doesnt 
Cursed timeline
wide bolt
do you mean sub does no dam when it funnels or sub doesnt SStorm > evis the boss there?
balmy condor
Assassination funnels while sub doesnt <:notlikethis:867819582256185375> Cursed ...
I mean to be fair, you need like a billion targets to make it remotely worth
spice surge
It does noticeably less than full singletargeting yes, as sub
wide bolt
holy shit ty for telling me
spice surge
I mean to be fair, you need like a billion targets to make it remotely worth
Fair enough
wide bolt
i will tell my other rogue to stop inting now lmao
idle inlet
What enemies aren't counted on wcl for zaqali assault?
balmy condor
they all are
true basalt
so no rogue changes at all, they said the current development notes are the candidate for release, yet they announced that in patch 10.1.5 there will be a holy pala rework, lots of mage and rogue changes
rogues are so stealthy they didnt even see them
balmy condor
its delayed
idle inlet
My power is out rn so I can't show it but my details showed me doing 160k dps and wcl shows 148k
true basalt
its delayed
i very much hoped so
spice surge
Yes wcl is always lower because it counts the entire time in the key
Whereas details only counts in-combat time
idle inlet
Not in key talking about zaqali assault
gusty mirage
wait do you outrange logs on assault
you can yeah
thin scroll
drifting cloud
not atm
versed mica
its delayed
You still talk to realz on occasion right? Is the delay officially confirmed?
runic hinge
Would a purple name ever lie to us
balmy condor
You still talk to realz on occasion right? Is the delay officially confirmed?
if it were officially confirmed it wouldn't come from me now would it
karmic crypt
does anyone have a PI spreadsheet
balmy condor
that would be the definition of unofficially
balmy condor
does anyone have a PI spreadsheet
bloodmallet
karmic crypt
i want to see where assasin falls in priority
balmy condor
too low for you to get it
runic hinge
Not as high as you would hope
versed mica
that would be the definition of unofficially
Okay fine, did realz tell you there's been a delay? Lol
gaunt moat
i want to see where assasin falls in priority
We're not even getting windfury now
balmy condor
Okay fine, did realz tell you there's been a delay? Lol
I'm not gonna say either way dude take a hint lmao
karmic crypt
Not as high as you would hope
omg your right... terrible
versed mica
I'm not gonna say either way dude take a hint lmao
Apologies, I am legit on the autistic spectrum lmao
sharp falcon
versed mica
Based realz thank u
balmy condor
Apologies, I am legit on the autistic spectrum lmao
as you can see
blizz can talk for themselves
anything I say is just speculations and general guesswork
and that stands as like
just a statement into the void
not to you specifically either
had a lot of people asking me about rework when, as if I'm in control of that
and its just
not on me
drifting cloud
12 more days of 20 people asking about it daily because ctrl + f is too hard
gaunt moat
yap, we'll see what's gonna be in 10.1.7 PTR
gilded oasis
wonder when Whispyr is gonna buff rogues finally..
gaunt moat
it's nice that they bring new PTR up as soon as patch comes live
gilded oasis
he keeps acting like he cant
balmy condor
yap, we'll see what's gonna be in 10.1.7 PTR
10.2
gilded oasis
but we all know he is blizzard and controls rogue fate
keen spruce
gilded oasis
maybe 15.2?
keen spruce
just make a "rogue change questions" channel and everyone can mute it
blazing jewel
just a statement into the void
purple name fake smh I thought you were a real one frfr
keen spruce
no no u also mute it 
keen spruce
it'll just be full of questions and phishing links
gusty mirage
p sure that's pvp
gaunt moat
wasn't that just a fake profile?
gaunt moat
balmy condor
in a digital age
shut owl
what if our world is a fake profile
balmy condor
(that's a joke, it's the real one)
gaunt moat
if people start crying around 10.1.7
Don't worry, the patch notes are gonna be there for the PTR
FOR. SURE.
gusty mirage
what if our world is a fake profile
shut owl
just earth poorly sending off some only-celestial-bodies pics. she's doin her best
gusty mirage
Don't worry, the patch notes are gonna be there for the PTR
FOR. SURE.
and I'll for sure send people on a one week vacation
they can cry it about it on reddit like that one dude
shut owl
I cope with these frustrations by chasing small platitudes in a tiny pond of achievement. aka: I'm chasing m+ leaderboard by spec 
I've almost caught up to whispyr ❤️
balmy condor
I've almost caught up to whispyr ❤️
shut owl
and then theres like a 300 io wall between the actual top 5 and the rest of the sane world XD
gilded oasis
ive been big time neglecting keys 😦 sad
shut owl
I mean... I've got 21 - 0 on brackenhide iirc
gusty mirage
that's pretty impressive
shut owl
I've been away from computer every fort week this season lol
gusty mirage
that's the wrong week to be afk for tho
shut owl
IRL is rough timing sometimes
gaunt moat
So 10.2 would be somewhere around September/October 
anyone wanna guess how many 5% buffs we'll get until then?
shut owl
the hilarious shit was seeing a 21 VP apparently being in top100 for sin last week
gilded oasis
So 10.2 would be somewhere around September/October <:ionsadhours:48253679108227...
-1
gusty mirage
So 10.2 would be somewhere around September/October <:ionsadhours:48253679108227...
11 million
that's how they nerf sark
sin rogue walks in
1 poisoned knife
we win
shut owl
unplayable; I don't even see pk on most bars
gusty mirage
blazing jewel
sin rogue walks in
RP walk
gilded oasis
but you gotta spam it when you run away
shut owl
brb, deleting all my echo and sark logs
gusty mirage
slap a rupture first global in p2
shut owl
I like shouting it like Its my hadoken reskin whenever I'm messing around 😛
versed mica
they can cry it about it on reddit like that one dude
Spill the tea, what guy?
gusty mirage
some guy said that me ronkles and shiennar come in here
and fight with people every day
and we're the reason RH sucks
drifting cloud
real and based
gusty mirage
real and based
I will kiss you on the mouth
shut owl
oxi takes me out back and slaps my knuckles with a ruler every night when I start memeing
drifting cloud
I will tell reddit
gusty mirage
pls no
shut owl
does that count?
shut owl
❤️
versed mica
and we're the reason RH sucks
True and real(z)
oak sky
ok cool i can quit until 10.2 safely then
balmy condor
ok cool i can quit until 10.2 safely then
cope
balmy condor
(I'm quitting until 10.2 anyway because I'll be in germany for most of 10.1.5 and it's just reclear until 10.2 )
versed mica
not playing new mega dungeon to try and get the item that gives you a mount you haven't collected fron the past
Do you even like WoW bro damn
gilded oasis
but its so fun, look at how much fun Whispyr is having. he looks like someone kicked his dog
oak sky
Do you even like WoW bro damn
no
shut owl
(I'm quitting until 10.2 anyway because I'll be in germany for most of 10.1.5 an...
toxic. abandoning us in our time of need
gilded oasis
(I'm quitting until 10.2 anyway because I'll be in germany for most of 10.1.5 an...
Do you go yearly? I feel like you were just there.. Or maybe we were just talking about it and by just I mean like 8 months ago
balmy condor
I do go yearly
gilded oasis
gilded oasis
I went to Germany for 6 hours once
versed mica
Basically all of Europe really
gilded oasis
oh not true I went to a con there too ok 3 days and 6 hours
didnt get to see any sites though
gusty mirage
I went to Germany for 6 hours once
I once slept on a bench in the frankfurt airport on a layover
would recommend
10/10 bench
gilded oasis
pog
I once selpt in a train station in France. 0/10 would no recommend
we were locked in a room with like 50 other people and not allowed out until morning
gusty mirage
versed mica
That doesn't sound legal LOL
clever kindle
Whats the best time to use beacon in opener, just use it once we're done extending garrote?
or after deathmark
gusty mirage
Whats the best time to use beacon in opener, just use it once we're done extendi...
gar > snd > er > rupture > beacon > rest of opener
clever kindle
ty
gusty mirage
versed mica
But vendetta damage boost
gusty mirage
prove it
right now
I need pictures, video, and financial projections for the next 10 years
broken down quarterly
ty
versed mica
have a seat at the Germany bench, I will be with you shortly
gusty mirage
pro tip for all my rogue friends progging nelth & sark
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2Ok2I8yWYNNxnGtHi8KW87?si=7068737c3ff648e8 this playlist brought me joy in dark times
woeful meteor
Playlist 1 = 1 song 
gusty mirage
Playlist 1 = 1 song <a:squchaNoted:864811771888795658>
on repeat
the entire time
all 138 pulls of neltharion
spice surge
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2Ok2I8yWYNNxnGtHi8KW87?si=7068737c3ff648e8 thi...
https://youtu.be/wl-HPIu5kcs
This one is great too
gaunt moat
@drifting cloud Didn't you used to have community figure role in the past, or am I just misremembering?
gusty mirage
https://youtu.be/wl-HPIu5kcs
This one is great too
versed mica
I worked at a store that played payphone like 10 times a day, I ain't touching that shit
drifting cloud
<@113078189701513216> Didn't you used to have community figure role in the past,...
not me, Ive been blue for a very long time
gusty mirage
not me, Ive been blue for a very long time
I have a song for that too
gaunt moat
You can change talents in the new dungeon right?
it doesn't have m+ restrictions i assume
(haven't played in bfa so dunno how megadungeons work)
surreal flare
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz
runic hinge
I want to feign outrage all the trinkets haven’t been simmed in there yet
shut owl
all 138 pulls of neltharion
I dig it
but the question is: do you restart it on wipe, or just let it loop freely?
drifting cloud
loop
wind condor
We did it boys, 9/9, US 90. Second ever CE too. Time for a well deserved 2 week break
shut owl
congrats!
gaunt moat
👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻
gusty mirage
We did it boys, 9/9, US 90. Second ever CE too. Time for a well deserved 2 week ...
best feeling btw
knowing you're free to play whatever you want for 2 weeks
gaunt moat
but what if what you want is wow
gusty mirage
alt stuff
wind condor
No one wants wow
gusty mirage
I've been gaming out on my pally
wind condor
Only thing on my mind is D4, and honestly some fucking tv at night, I get home from work and have 15 minutes before raid, shit was ass lol
wind condor
Luckily we got pre fix zkarn so we didn’t have that wall, still shit felt loooooong
Wild raz was almost double the pulls tho
balmy condor
gaunt moat
Having to do Zskarn no cheese strat.. imagine having to do that 
balmy condor
zskarn cheese was the best version of zskarn
gaunt moat
post nerf i think it's probably almost heroic difficulty
i hear elimination protocol doesn't even kill you if it hit you twice
earnest remnant
You Can take 3 if you feint
drifting cloud
its still a boss
but its mostly just killing adds and baiting properly
no rngesus
signal badger
gaunt moat
You Can take 3 if you feint
feint affects even eleminatio protocol?
sheesh
true basalt
how similar is feral compared to assassination? or rogue in general
perhaps the wrong discord to talk about this, but i want to know from rogue pov
spice spire
how similar is feral compared to assassination? or rogue in general
It’s sort of similar
Assassination is closest
You can link some of it together, but CDs are way off
clever kindle
zskarn down
spice spire
Gz
clever kindle
balmy condor
zskarn down
Big
clever kindle
time for magma dog
main blaze
Alright magma dog down
spice spire
Huge
woeful hollow
yo any one yall know what profession i need to put greater crest of honor on my leather leggings?
spice spire
Monstrous
gaunt moat
how similar is feral compared to assassination? or rogue in general
Energy gain is a lot slower
Unlike empowering garrote, with feral you first apply bleeds, and then you use Tiger's fury to empower them (snapshot) and gain energy.
then it has berserk as its major CD to get a lot of CPs and damage
main vessel
Gargantuan
true basalt
Aight, ty for info ! :3
what about their aoe, do they also mass apply dots with something?
spice spire
what about their aoe, do they also mass apply dots with something?
Primal wrath consumes dots placed
It’s pretty massive
gaunt moat
They have an ability called Rip, that's their bleed dot, comparable to garrote (not in damage though)
then you can talent into Primal wrath, which applies Rip to ALL enemies around you.
runic hinge
Rip is more like rupture because it’s their finisher. Rake is like garrote, builder bleed that’s empowered from stealth
gaunt moat
yeah true
And they also have a talent that makes rake be applied to 1 additional target.
runic hinge
Primal wrath applies a short rip to everything and then when you finish again it does a portion of the remaining damage.
Thrash is a small aoe bleed that is just a builder but not a huge dot and is more for their stacks of bloodtalons. Which is a talent when you use 3 different builders in short succession it empowers your next 3 finishers
gaunt moat
I just didn't like playi ng feral because i binded tiger's fury to scrollwheel button, and my middle finger started to hurt from pressing it so much
runic hinge
I played feral from bc until DF. Now I play assa rogue lol
I’ve played a few keys each season as feral but I think I just like rogues kit better
And I really like the dot melee aspect so here I am
true basalt
wish we also had some talent which applies garrote to 1 additional enemy
gaunt moat
I would say feral gameplay is like:
Put a lot of of different bleeds on target > empower bleeds > go berserk meow
Assassination gameplay is like:
Put a very strong bleed on your target > manage your pandemics well > double your strong dot with deathmark
runic hinge
Feral also plays a lot around snapshotting and still kinda pools.
true basalt
ugh i hate that
runic hinge
I like the idea of snapshotting but pooling can feel bad
They don’t really pool in aoe tho
Too much energy for that
true basalt
onto another thing, im having a really hard time multi-dotting because of the frames, its just that they constantly move up an down and i gotta chase them. I use some plater profile, do you guys have any recommendations?
gaunt moat
I just use elvui and tab target
true basalt
if any of you played hero siege, there's a class in there called plague doctor, and it's basicaly an assassination rogue with some caster elements. That's literaly the reason i went into assassination xD
gave me motivation to gear my rogue
bleeds, poison, super cool
versed mica
zskarn down
Congrats homie :)
gaunt moat
zskarn down
congrats 🙂
In case you've missed it, i wrote an advice for magmarox a few hours ago
take elusivness instead of cheat death
balmy condor
Guess I can't post big text
Yeah headers are auto-filtered
cerulean nest
congrats 🙂
In case you've missed it, i wrote an advice for magmarox a few hours...
where do you use evasion and feint
gaunt moat
Magmarox choose 3 people to drop pools
one of those people will have a circle the whole raid has to stand inside, or they take a gazillion damage.
so, when you're in that circle.
especially if it's you who is targetted by it.
royal lantern
gz
clever perch
does assa and subt share stats?
hollow cedar
Not really
clever perch
though both go mastery/crit
wait i'll reformulate the question, does assa (st) and subt (aoe m+) share stats?
or the answer is still no 🥲
cunning nest
Still no
clever perch
f
cunning nest
Idealy you'll need haste for assa. As Fae as I know that is a sin for sub
drifting cloud
you dont need haste for assa
cunning nest
you dont need haste for assa
When you have too much crit, you do
still leaf
haste is a meme
clever perch
this is the ideal stats % for ST assa i guess
cunning nest
haste is a meme
I think the Sims are serious
still leaf
this is the ideal stats % for ST assa i guess
assa st off the top of my head is agi crit=mastery>haste>vers
hollow cedar
But also I think all stats are not that bad even vers
still leaf
and that vers is better than haste slightly in aoe since haste doesnt affect sins aoe much
clever perch
assa st off the top of my head is agi crit=mastery>haste>vers
as far i know
crit > mastery > vers >= haste
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/stormreaver/Zikli or that's what top 1s assas runs in warcraftlogs
runic hinge
I run almost 0 haste in m+ because you’re energy capped in packs anyways
clever perch
in m+ u cant even run assa xD
hollow cedar
If you want to do Sin in raid and sub in m+, I would craft my items crit mastery and keep some different items for both
I have some Haste mastery gear for sin and some vers mastery gear for sub m+
clever perch
If you want to do Sin in raid and sub in m+, I would craft my items crit mastery...
i wanna play outlaw
but here i am
still leaf
nothings stopping you from playing assa in m+ its perfectly fine, just not as good as sub is
clever perch
subt > outlaw in M+ and assa > outlaw in raid
clever perch
nothings stopping you from playing assa in m+ its perfectly fine, just not as go...
lol assa in m+ meme class
literally worst dps spec of the game
still leaf
and yet your in the assa channel
still leaf
not denying that just saying you cant play it in m+ is blatantly wrong, you can still clear keys just fine
runic hinge
Yikes
still leaf
when did i say 20+ keys?
clever perch
well u can aswell play assa for boe farm ofc
i guess u could even play tank dps
in a +5
still worst spec for m+
gaunt moat
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/stormreaver/Zikli or tha...
Yeah well Zikli also has a 450ilvl beacon 😂
keen spruce
crit mast is completely fine for both
there's plenty of pink parsing assas rogues with basicaly 0 haste
but technically no they don't share optimal stat setups
clever perch
but technically no they don't share optimal stat setups
ty ❤️
gaunt moat
I never see zikli write here
keen spruce
almost 128 
gaunt moat
stop cheating with rage flask 
gaunt moat
no way that flask gives more than 800dps, so you're safe
keen spruce
i think 100% does
gaunt moat
let's see
keen spruce
royal lantern
no way that flask gives more than 800dps, so you're safe
did for me
keen spruce
royal lantern
thats why i use it at this point
gaunt moat
gaunt moat
what the hecc
keen spruce
rage stronk
gaunt moat
do you have like no crit?
keen spruce
i gemmed and enchanted out cuz i'm runing nelths
gave me an extra 800 dps or so
i'm a mastery vers gemmer now 
gaunt moat
that cloak is active for you like 6% of the fight, you changed all your gems because of it?
still leaf
you change gems with nelths?
keen spruce
instead of bacon
gaunt moat
ah
keen spruce
I did frapp
i don't think anyone else should/would
but bacon obv likes crit
i just run lots of sims and if the difference is big enough i change enchnats and gems
trust the robit
blazing jewel
Shmeeps gear cookin
still leaf
ah alright, so mostly just a dual beacon nelths thing
keen spruce
i'd imagine
gaunt moat
me with rage:
drifting cloud
did u craft toxic boots already shmeeps?
gaunt moat
with tepid:
still leaf
good to know since im actually aiming for that trinket combo, im using hero bomb dispenser and heros nelths atm
keen spruce
did u craft toxic boots already shmeeps?
ye
still leaf
im hoping my damage will get better when i finally got some more crit, since i barely have like 33% even with buzzings
gaunt moat
notter how <:susGe:901532227538661376>
I have 42% crit... base
keen spruce
i've also got this waiting for a socket in the bags
i have like 39 base i think
o wait i have rage on nvm
one sec
royal lantern
38% rn
need mythic beacon
keen spruce
shitty thing is we still have 2 people waiting on bomb dispensers
gaunt moat
I will never get beacon or nelth trinket.
I'm dice gamer
keen spruce
so if we kill zskarn on saturday
they'll probably get the mythic ones
dice is nice
gaunt moat
Also, my survivability already took a hit with sark cloak
so i don't feel like i can afford rage flask
keen spruce
i don't use rage on proggies
drifting cloud
no reason not to
keen spruce
well i do until my raid lead tells me to stop
idk rage on rashok could get pretty monka
hollow cedar
<a:MeowShake:1118932301859000431> need mythic beacon
Does beacon sim higher than essence for you ?
earnest remnant
playing corrupting rage is free af
blazing jewel
127 
keen spruce
run it again
gaunt moat
I don't trust our healers, they let me die on magmarox
I'm allready at like only 525k HP
blazing jewel
I ran a droptomizer not quick sim earlier that’s where I got 129
blazing jewel
Does beacon sim higher than essence for you ?
Beacon op
earnest remnant
127 <a:AINTNOWAY:1050211099158511626>
why do you sim less than me with optimized assa gear vs me in just sub gear?
blazing jewel
I’m not in optimized sin gear
hollow cedar
Yeah but for sim I don’t like it as much as for sub
blazing jewel
Well fully optimized
keen spruce
how much rage u simming with stealthi 
earnest remnant
well im full crit vers
blazing jewel
I need to swap gems and enchants
royal lantern
idk rage on rashok could get pretty monka
not really
had a 75-80% uptime on rage during rashok
keen spruce
it's not the uptime it's the dying
blazing jewel
Tf how
gaunt moat
wth
blazing jewel
Aren’t we basically the same gear
keen spruce
i had 80% when i was running it
gaunt moat
Stealhi just built different
gaunt moat
@earnest remnant show us your gear
still leaf
my assa sim makes me want to hurt myself, i think it barely pulls like 116k st
earnest remnant
basically just this, just with swapping gems
gaunt moat
thast's because you have exsang by your name
blazing jewel
How tf do I sim crit flask on mobile
keen spruce
hat gamer 
man's sittin here with a 450 wep and 447 tier
talkin about us civilians simming lower than him
drifting cloud
just kill the boss!
blazing jewel
thats my assa sim
Fixed
runic hinge
basically just this, just with swapping gems
It doesn’t tell you to swap off annualet yet?
earnest remnant
dont have anything to swap it with
gaunt moat
basically just this, just with swapping gems
you don't have sark cloak?
keen spruce
runic hinge
Ohhh
earnest remnant
does it look like i have it?
gaunt moat
maybe you choose not to use it
blazing jewel
Think we’re getting trinket diffed
drifting cloud
I have same trinkets and weps
blazing jewel
Weird
drifting cloud
its clearly the 450gloves!
blazing jewel
I’m missing around 500dps from gems
I think I swap next week for parses on sin then go back to crit/vers for sub
keen spruce
he has mythic bomba
blazing jewel
Fairly certain I’m over where my sim wants my crit to be at by a decent amount
drifting cloud
keen spruce
just give me CE and loot funnel ez pz
earnest remnant
thats pretty close to my sub sim
drifting cloud
ill vault cloak on wednesday np
blazing jewel
@earnest remnant stop cheating you raccoon
blazing jewel
<:kekman:1066887760838938676>
Did you guys one bang reclear
keen spruce
imma need to see the log printouts
earnest remnant
Did you guys one bang reclear
ofc
blazing jewel
Smh
earnest remnant
all of our reclears has been 1 day clears
blazing jewel
We’ve got a lot of new people in for end bosses so hopefully we 1 day
blazing jewel
Yea u
earnest remnant
im the only rogue
keen spruce
do u want more 
earnest remnant
its not like specific classes we look for
drifting cloud
wheres push
earnest remnant
but i dont think we are recruiting anything anymore
we are 25 people atm
he quit
earnest remnant
im EU
drifting cloud
he quit
keen spruce
goddamnit
keen spruce
i'd like a few more trials 
earnest remnant
we recruited 2 evokers 1 boomy and 1 hunter
keen spruce
our WF totem is doin tank damage
blazing jewel
I think we have 1 heal 2 ranged 2 melee and a tank
blazing jewel
we recruited 2 evokers 1 boomy and 1 hunter
2 evokers? Your trial officer into scales or something
I told them if they demote me I will reform grey
drifting cloud
isnt that just a public service
blazing jewel
And I’m the only rogue atm even with trials
So the atrophic gas lighting is working
earnest remnant
2 evokers? Your trial officer into scales or something
we need atleast 1 dev evoker
we had 2 people quit after tier is over
blazing jewel
It’s your time
earnest remnant
and 1 quit mid tier
blazing jewel
Stealthiscale
keen spruce
rogue or bench
blazing jewel
We’ve had a few people leave/quit so roster changes are happening 
blazing jewel
rogue or bench <a:NODDERS:878312299415371806>
runic hinge
our WF totem is doin tank damage
I’ll bring atro poison and tank damage
keen spruce
we haven't had any quitters just a few heavy backpacks
royal lantern
im scared of devokers now
we had a devoker using his fully channeled firebreath right at the moment the MC on echo happend
was like 1million friendly fire dmg 
oak sky
<:feelscryman:585734081304592385> he quit
surely push comes back to OT with a beige name
blazing jewel
still leaf
we had a devoker using his fully channeled firebreath right at the moment the MC...
just run ic for the fight and teach em a lesson
oops forgot to change my tallies
hollow cedar
our WF totem is doin tank damage
Played whole tier without wf because of that
versed mica
was like 1million friendly fire dmg <:dracthyr_kek:1002454136706580620>
Can't fault him, he probably doesn't have his legendary yet do no bully
versed mica
I saw one who had it who was a pug
our three evokers in our guild don't have it
SOrry four
celest marlin
do we have next patch numbers on assa?
shell osprey
If you mean this coming patch on the 11th I'm not sure there are any balance changes
steel ridge
do we have next patch numbers on assa?
exactly the same.
celest marlin
damn no buffs ? :S
shell osprey
Just new items from mega dungeon that may or may not be good
Nope, not at the moment
I was told the rogue dev was out for family reasons so no changes this patch
lavish hazel
Yup
steel ridge
Just new items from mega dungeon that may or may not be good
dont think those items can compete on ilvl basis
true basalt
do we use the slime boots?
true basalt
i have toxic boots on my dh tank and they do like 1% of my dmg or less
clever sapphire
toxic as assa, slimy if you multispec
untold mortar
is the healing proc still there? or can we avoid now?
royal lantern
is the healing proc still there? or can we avoid now?
yes
avoiding it means "dont use vial/health potions/healthstones"
aka
USE THEM AND ACCEPT IT
untold mortar
i never use such noob abilities
grim jay
Might end up doing less dps if you dont use them
untold mortar
i blame the healers then
royal lantern
you guys like parses right?
use vial/pots/stones
and swap the log to healing done
and enjoy your 90+
hollow dirge
use vial/pots/stones
imagine if feint dmg reductions showed as healing in meters, boy oh boy, would our monk healer have tough time competing with rogues
woeful wigeon
i dotn get this how is gear upgrading a downgrade ?? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nwyxgyPXiXed5mhwZ7SQKV
gusty mirage
That is a great question that I do not have an answer for
However fragment sucks don’t use it as assassination
It’s oversimming by quite a lot
woeful wigeon
That is a great question that I do not have an answer for
kk will try other trink solo then
still confusses me
gusty mirage
Yeah that’s odd
gusty mirage
Probably something fucky with double on use if I had to guess
Double on use makes raidbots act a little weird sometimes
woeful wigeon
Double on use makes raidbots act a little weird sometimes
dubbel on use ?
gusty mirage
Trinkets that you have to use vs passives
gusty mirage
That’s funny lmao
Man I feel bad for raidbots with all the changes that came in dragonflight lol
woeful wigeon
kk resimming now with the socket on the necks did not pay atention to it wtill funny 439->441 was downgrade XD
arctic venture
grunchy this trinket is kinda bugged
woeful wigeon
grunchy this trinket is kinda bugged
yeah did sim with dice and crit trink
2500+ combi take sometimexd
arctic venture
Dont you have the bomb one?
stiff geode
The past 4 hours have been wild, got the dice and fragment as a drop. Time to do some sims I suppose.
Wasn't the fragment the one that was over simming or under simming? I cannot recall which trink it was.
stiff geode
Still broken on sims?
vapid sierra
Pretty sure there’s a list in pins of trinkets
vapid sierra
Still broken on sims?
I’ve been off wow for a week but I believe so
!trinket
!fragment
No command either
stiff geode
Ahh yeah gah I am blind, I even opened pins a few mins ago 😂
vapid sierra
I remember there being a image with all the trinkets and where fragment is on the list when we found out it oversimmed
It not in pins tho
Fragment is pretty poop tho
stiff geode
Yeee I do remember seeing an image of sorts
vapid sierra
It’ll prolly be call to suffering for st even tho that’s super rng based
And aoe maybe boon? Not to sure
Whatever the sim tells you
@balmy condor sorry for ping but wowhead bis list still lists fragment as A+
stiff geode
S1 trinks are pretty low level tho, I should prob just vendor them, been keeping em for old times sake I suppose 😅
stiff geode
Yeah, doubtful they'd add a way to upgrade them but you never know I guess.
Well shoot, bomb + fireland trink remains king for both dslice and patch sims
pure comet
Quick silly question
For the first time I got the coins in the vault to put a socket gem at one gear
Now I don't know which piece I will put it
Any advices from the experts?
stiff geode
Did you craft toxic boots + patch?
pure comet
So, short answer is no, I fucked up embellishments early in season
I'll try to fix it but I need to farm the higher crest yet
stiff geode
Slap a socket on a piece of gear that you think you'll have for a long while.
Example being I am engi so I made bracers for brez tinker, I will always have those so I socket it first.
Crafted belt for the toxic patch, I know I'll have that belt for the rest of S2 (most likely) so I socketed it next.