Let’s take it to #recruitment
#assassination
strange python
strange python
And then it dies for like 5 minutes and I don’t know what to do with my life
I would sleep but my mind is on the roach now
deft flicker
Happens
royal lantern
I would sleep but my mind is on the roach now
just sleep and it cralws in your mouth
and the problem is solved
strange python
You’re obsess with me eating the roach
strange python
My new diet does not include roach
Should I leave my copy of the divine comedy in my bathroom
Is that a good time to read
royal lantern
see, im not alone
strange python
Please no
royal lantern
limber lion
Look what you've done to Assassination, Connor.
strange python
It should be renamed to roach obviously
It’s not like this channel is being used for assassination rogues or anything
deft flicker
Well, it is sometimes
strange python
What? We’re in the rogue server? Huh?
deft flicker
Always have been
strange python
Do you think the fellows at trueshot lodge are as cool as us
blazing jewel
Well, it is sometimes
deft flicker
Everyone is cool in their own unique way
deft flicker
<:Susge:1106364907772989601>
Every time new pins appear this channel is used for assassination stuff
┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)
blazing jewel
Or the occasional min max question that doesn’t matter 
strange python
Just like how I’m cool and super funny and everyone loves me right guys right
I’m so cool
so relatable and my jokes are entertaining
strange python
Roach roach
deft flicker
Just like how I’m cool and super funny and everyone loves me right guys right
That’s not how cool works
deft flicker
What do you think drunk whispyr is dreaming of right now
Kingsbane and AP swap in spec tree
ebon notch
@limber lion what's going on here
strange python
subtle tundra
That’s what whispyr is dreaming about
I don't have dreams when I'm drunk, I just wake up sweaty and hot
5 times
strange python
deft flicker
so relatable and my jokes are entertaining
Sometimes they are. Sometimes it feels like you’re trying too hard to be someone that you’re not which is sort of like sand on teeth
strange python
it’s kind of hard to who I am
because, uh, I really can’t put it into words honestly
We’re on a funny journey of self discovery
When my life has been full of being manipulated and being constantly beaten down and berated for various reasons
Also btw Reddit is fucking awful now
deft flicker
We’re on a funny journey of self discovery
It will get easier over time, all you need is some practice in a friendly and supportive environment
Not really sure how one goes about finding such a place, it usually happens randomly
strange python
I wonder what the “humans” outside of my home would think if I cross dressed
I want to. When I’m a deep enough into the exercise and diet and my body is where I want it to be
Men wearing female clothing is kind of 🥺😍
deft flicker
Most would probably be too busy with their own thoughts to give a second thought
strange python
You said before that I’m trying to be someone I’m not and that’s who I actually want to be for real
but that’s like going to take a lot of work and even more struggles
But I think it’s worth it to join the femboy club
deft flicker
But I think it’s worth it to join the femboy club
Hataro would like to know your location
strange python
rogue subreddit is full of femboys probably
Rubreddit
I meant the discord
Rub rob raggy
I think I’m having a stroke
balmy condor
i ssuporrt you no mattter what
strange python
if I make all of the fishies homeless 🥰
balmy condor
everyoane is jsut so prety
deft flicker
but that’s like going to take a lot of work and even more struggles
It’s like buying a house vs renting one. At some point renting will cost you more than buying. But buying is very frontloaded in payment
You either get to struggle a lot but be happy later or struggle a little for the rest of yourvlide
deft flicker
if I make all of the fishies homeless 🥰
Wouldn’t you as a salmon be homeless then??
strange python
😔
strange python
Roach dancing to heartache by the number
deft flicker
Roach dancing to татарстан супер гуд is probably the best one I’ve seen
strange python
Heartaches by the numbers
Troubles by the score
Each day you love me less and each day I love you more
deft flicker
But IMO polish cow memes and spinning toolet memesxare even more viral
strange python
The polish cow is the best that’s like a song about cocaine or something isn’t it
A very depressing one too
But it slaps
It’s funny how the depressing music is always the best
deft flicker
More like depression dead end, yeah
strange python
nine inch nails 🥰
ebon notch
@balmy condor you ok?
strange python
They’re eepy
And runk
Totally because I know what they’re doing at every moment of the day
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> you ok?
thhis boss tanking forevevr bro
deft flicker
Like you find thisbanger of a song and then it turns out it’s about a car crash
strange python
My summer car my beloved
ebon notch
thhis boss tanking forevevr bro
sark or maplestory
deft flicker
Never watched that ahow but the sing is a babger
strange python
badger badger badger badger badger
strange python
WERE RICH!
ROCK AND STONE LADS!
IF YOU DONT ROCK AND STONE YOU AINT COMING HOME!
deft flicker
Makes me wobder how did I manage to scramble a lot of obscure as fuck references and memes yet have no clue about seemingly viral stuff tgat evetyone was into
deft flicker
IF YOU DONT ROCK AND STONE YOU AINT COMING HOME!
Rock and Stone you beautiful dwarf!!
strange python
You can reference the dwarves but if I mention omori or pizza tower everyone is like “the fuck?”
deft flicker
Yep, exactly
strange python
I tend not to mention things I enjoy unless they are brought up
90% of kids these days don’t know what a yume Nikki is
and god it hurts
They won’t ever know what it feels like to wander through endless hallways and flat pictures of strange statues and colorful objects
deft flicker
Tbh neither do I
balmy condor
sark or maplestory
maplestory
balmy condor
itsta okay thhou, wwe kiiilled boss
strange python
I have not experience maple story
deft flicker
I have played a lot of a certain game based on Maplestory
strange python
I can’t do more than one mmo I’m sorry
deft flicker
At least the dev says he took a lot of inspiration drin thwre
deft flicker
I can’t do more than one mmo I’m sorry
Same. That’s why I dropped that one
subtle tundra
I think I'd love being with drunk whisp, too bad there's like 10k km between us
strange python
Drunk whisp go brrrr
deft flicker
Not drunk enough to like the non-daggery rogue tho
strange python
I’m officially in that “I’ve stayed up so far past my normal sleep time I’m not tired anymore” zone
deft flicker
I’m officially in that “I’ve stayed up so far past my normal sleep time I’m not ...
Congrats on making it through
strange python
We’re vibing out on music so much my iPhone has to warn me about the volume being too high
I don’t know who told it to tell me to lower the volume but I hope their toast is forever burnt
deft flicker
In like 2 hours you’ll have a great idea: to lie in bed for a couple minutes because nothing can go wrong about that
strange python
I am lying in bed
I read like three pages of the divine comedy and still didn’t fall asleep
I comp stomp and roached too much
deft flicker
but if you close your eyes
strange python
I wonder if the roach is eeping
deft flicker
DOES IT ALMOST FEEL LIKE NOTHING CHANGED AT ALL
ebon notch
I think the toiler
toilet?
subtle tundra
Yes toiler
deft flicker
I wonder if the roach is eeping
I think he already woke up
strange python
Well he didn’t attack me while I’m laying in bed despite that being the general area he ran away to
I think he’s eeping
subtle tundra
ESTOY LOCO
strange python
Papa roach
deft flicker
muffled cutting life into pieces sound
strange python
muffled last resorting sound
deft flicker
muffled suffocation that doesn’t even sound muffled because no breathing anyways
subtle tundra
BABY DON'T HURT ME
deft flicker
strange python
So called “gym music”
I’m not pumping iron with that shit I’m pumping fucking led
deft flicker
The screen?? Yea
strange python
We have to sandwich it in our doors
To prevent X-rays from getting through
Because x ray nasty
Or sumn
subtle tundra
I eat LEDs
strange python
Potato potato
deft flicker
I might’ve had a mild fuck up
strange python
Mild? We extreme in this bitch. All day every day extreme fuck ups for me
subtle tundra
Ah ah ah ah staying alive staying alive
subtle tundra
My tricep hurty
deft flicker
And stop I will
subtle tundra
Osha is not real in my country
Some girl is doing hip thrusts in front of me get me out
strange python
Sounds like an above average experience
gaunt moat
who else got baited for a sec 
minor gate
barren fiber
does anyone happen to have the tricks of trade macro that doesn't require me to target or focus the tank when i cast it
i had it on my old rogue but i deleted him and forgot to copy it
deft flicker
/cast [@party1] Tricks of the Trade
barren fiber
thank you!
sturdy valve
!whispyr
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storm belfry
Happy Father’s Day cuz @thorn fjord
urban mantle
Morning everyone! If can someone clarify for me something about stats. If critical = mastery, why is everyone stacking much more critical? Can't I stack mastery and still do good dmg on Mythic plus and/or Raids? The tier set give me more dmg for poisons, its not better stacking mastery?
subtle tundra
gusty mirage
Crit > mastery; unsure of where you got crit = mastery or where you’re seeing people stacking more mastery than crit
cunning nest
I have a theory. Because crit > mast we all go hard crit ofc. At some point it's gettin weaker, mast became even (as a gain) with a certain gs in s1. I even had to socket / enchant mast at the end of the season
Maybe someone just said "I need both equaly"
subtle tundra
yes, thats how stats work. the more you have of one type, the better others become
cunning nest
Aye
Mast also lost value in the annulet periode, that's way it wasnt too bad to drop some in st
At some point it was low enough, it was even with crit in my sims
gusty mirage
Why would annulet have any effect on mastery’s value
cerulean walrus
icy haven
if im just now gearing up my rogue again, should i still get annulet? or just pray for big rings from vault=
gusty mirage
if im just now gearing up my rogue again, should i still get annulet? or just pr...
I would recommend getting it, you won’t replace it until you get really good gear + good rings
icy haven
oraidi, gotta go do some questing then, never got the ring on my mains 😄
gusty mirage
After you do all the intro stuff, hop on your other characters and do the skip + 2-3 quests to get the 6 starter keys then send them to your rogue
If you have 1-2 other max level characters should be able to knock it all out in like an hour or two max
tall atlas
!whispyr
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amber stream
!fuu
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cunning nest
Why would annulet have any effect on mastery’s value
Annulet gave us about 8% (6% at s2 gs) dps from non-spec sources.
These did not scale with mast (and agi), but with all other sec stats, which lead to a small shift
gusty mirage
blazing jewel
<:starege:923197272064426075>
Yea eat our ass Oxi time to put on haste gems
cunning nest
Glad to got rid of annulet now 
small rover
Can't seem to find an answer on any info page... Does anyone know the soft caps for assa stats?
cunning nest
There are none
blazing jewel
Whatever the sims say they are
cunning nest
You start search vor crit & mast until Sims tell you otherwise
thorn fjord
Happy Father’s Day cuz <@97773487619334144>
Thank you breh 
final sky
can someone explain sepsis to me, im trying to understand but im too stupid
so far i know that your next spell after sepsis gains the benefits of stealth, which is why we use garrote, but i dont get how the secondary stealth skill works, is it the same as our first stealth skill or is it just any
and how does vanish come into this, pins say dont vanish on pull so i have it for sepsis but why would i want it for sepsis when im already getting empowered garrote from the skill itself
blazing jewel
Are you talking about the buff we gain from when sepsis runs out
final sky
(sorry if this is a noob question, im still exploring sin since the new talent tree, only my second day playing sin since the full talent tree change)
blazing jewel
You hold vanish for the 2 min deathmark
So after opener
You sepsis when it comes off cd around 1:35ish
Improved garrote
And then when you gain the second sepsis buff
You hold it for as long as you can to refresh the improved garrote
final sky
You sepsis when it comes off cd around 1:35ish
deathmark cd around 1:35?
blazing jewel
That should last into your second deathmark for a few seconds
When you dm at 2 mins
And then when that garrote is in pandemic you send the vanish
blazing jewel
deathmark cd around 1:35?
Deathmark in opener on pull and then again on cd
Sorry meant to say garrote with sepsis not rupture
final sky
so deathmark on pull with the inital stealth garrote, when deathmark cd is around 1:35 cd i pop sepsis for that garrote, then as buff is about to end for the second garrote i use the second garrote, and then vanish for second deathmark to keep the improved garrote up?
blazing jewel
Yea
final sky
ok thank you
blazing jewel
That second sepsis garrote
Will last a bit into dm
So as long as garrote is in pandemic you can send the vanish garrote
final sky
will 1 garrote last until 1:35 left on cd?
blazing jewel
Preferably when you have no cp because it will give you a lot
So sepsis dm in opener
final sky
ah ok sepsis on pull
blazing jewel
Sepsis when it comes off cd at 130ish
final sky
then that end of sepsis garrote comes to the garrote
blazing jewel
Imp garrote with first buff
final sky
at 1:35
final sky
whats imp?
blazing jewel
Vanish once that sepsis garrote is in pandemic
Improved/stealth whatever you want to call it
final sky
ah ok
blazing jewel
Once you do it on the dummies a few times it makes sense
For how the garrotes clip into the dm
final sky
mind if i pester u in dms? im gonna try on dummies and can guarantee i will mess something up
blazing jewel
Sure
midnight carbon
Can someone explain why we want to craft bracers w/ toxic patch rather than crit/mast helm? Is it just to get 4 set asap?
spice spire
Can someone explain why we want to craft bracers w/ toxic patch rather than crit...
Yes
spice spire
If you’re trying to omega min max, you can do helm.
You can also do belt, but bracers are a pretty easy one to do
spice spire
<a:MeowShake:1118932301859000431>
blazing jewel
Craft every slot ggez
spice spire
dim tide
hi, got quick question - its best to macro Bomb Dispenser to mutilate?
dim tide
i mean macro with use 14 - for second trinket - something like that
#showtooltip Mutilate
/startattack
/use 14
/cast Mutilate
blazing jewel
sharp viper
You’re likely to run double on use
just dont press mutilate for 10 seconds
blazing jewel
200iq strat
deft flicker
hi, got quick question - its best to macro Bomb Dispenser to mutilate?
Find a button that you press every 15-20 seconds or smth (so you spend charges faster than you gain them) and will never press on an almost dead target. Garrote maybe??
halcyon silo
How much haste do I want for raid and for M+?
idle inlet
How much haste do I want for raid and for M+?
spice spire
How much haste do I want for raid and for M+?
more than 0
idle inlet
Ideally you you would have infinite haste
thin gate
do we macro Zskarn bomb trinket into envenom?
gray crest
I did
keen spruce
then you can macro it into every ability on your bar if you want 
thin gate
cause i saw subs doin eviscerate + bomb and outlaw dispatch
oh ok
i thought it has a reason behind it, why other specs bind it to the finisher
aight, ty to put macro on every ability i have xD
keen spruce
nah it's just so you don't have to go update 100 macros lol
thin gate
blind+bomb inc
keen spruce
i mean if you put it on like env, mutilate
thin gate
should be enought i guess
keen spruce
then that's pretty much good
thin gate
so the trinket is just about proc it as often as u can
keen spruce
yeah since it's just doin its own damage it doesn't have any other synergies
you just want it on CD as much as possible
keen spruce
in 99% of cases
strange python
You guys turned it back into a rogue related channel? Literally 1984 smh my head
agile oriole
I don't want to screw it up, I'm reading that Thorns boots are better than expulsion? This wasn't the case at the start, were sims wrong at the start on 10.1?
Haven't made either on my rogue, just don't want to make a mistake and its hard to tell on subcreation because if expulsion were nerfed or simmed wrong most made them at the start and are now forced to wear them
autumn raven
I don't want to screw it up, I'm reading that Thorns boots are better than expul...
Toxic Boots are better than slimy in all situations. This is simming properly as well now.
First point on latest pinned message
so yeah its correct
agile oriole
Ah my bad, read the ordering of spark usage at the bottom and missed that. Thank you!
clever sapphire
but also consider which spec you are lookng at as your main
if you multispec slimy is better for the other 2
normal mist
Is there a way to sim with the upcoming annulet ring nerf?
was intrigued to know if imma craft a ring or not this week
normal mist
I'll be honest, i know the bare minimun of simming so i have no idea how to insert modifications to it
woeful meteor
dropped 1,2k dps when I just tried so seems to be in
at the bottom above run sim
normal mist
aight ill try it
Thanks my man
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dSS7L5JCGjpSBH4NemBDBx i believe my dps in the ptr dropped from 121k to 118k due to ring nerf, but with the adjustments on my gear i go back to exactly... where i am!
strange python
121 to 118 isn’t so bad
balmy condor
Ring isn’t bis for Assassination now either to be fair
A lot of people should be seeing very similar numbers from 441 rings and stuff
normal mist
It is for me rn, ofc, due to gear
besides annulet, i got a 441 Mast/crit and a 437 Crit/haste, no sockets on both
I simmed the crafted ring with the haste option aswell since my sims keep asking for more haste
woeful meteor
what I wonder more is why do you drop 3k while I dropped 1k on sub which is the bigger ring abuser
balmy condor
Sub gets 4% aura buff
woeful meteor
nvm sub has the compensation buff
idle inlet
what I wonder more is why do you drop 3k while I dropped 1k on sub which is the ...
Are you factoring in the buff
idle inlet
Sub gets 4% aura buff
Beat me to it
woeful meteor
normal mist
normal mist
I’m trying to rizz the sin players
I was rizzed enough some hours earlier for sure
gray crest
we all know it was oxi
gusty mirage
what did I do now
balmy condor
good morning !
cinder bone
pure moth
Sub gets 4% aura buff
Any hint to assassination getting the compensation buff? ^.^
subtle tundra
hi love
balmy condor
Any hint to assassination getting the compensation buff? ^.^
Nah, cause it’s not bud for sin, no compensation required
keen spruce
pure moth
That's fair i guess
keen spruce
the 5% we got before already brought annulet in line with other rings ish
so we kinda got pre-compensated
brazen zodiac
💃
deft flicker
Hello sweetie
balmy condor
hi hi
pure moth
the 5% we got before already brought annulet in line with other rings ish
Thats true
gaunt moat
Zskarn is the worst fight i've ever seen in all of WoW's history.
I'm actually not having fun.
It's so bad.
steel spire
Having rashok into zskarn is 
best fight into jail
spiral pasture
Zskarn is the worst fight i've ever seen in all of WoW's history.
I'm actually n...
big agree
so happy we are done with it finally
balmy condor
How you feeling this afternoon?
fine
cerulean nest
anyone still running eranog ring
gaunt moat
so happy we are done with it finally
I'm jelous cause this is the kinda shit that makes people not want to sign up for raid
spiral pasture
yh
150 wipes 💀
and then we kill it and get like rank 7 execution, was such a good pull
besides me being 80% done on castin beacon and boss dies
gaunt moat
They should just nerf this boss to the ground and move on from it and pretend it didn't exist
spiral pasture
imo just remove 1 rng trap and boss is actually decent
keen spruce
Zskarn is the worst fight i've ever seen in all of WoW's history.
I'm actually n...
we started today
gaunt moat
having fun?
keen spruce
i'm already disassociating
we have reached 3rd tactical destruction
golems are a hot mess
ranged terrorists murdering people with beams
everyone on fire
pure moth
I had sub 2% wipes on rashok . Zskarn soon
keen spruce
these golems are the worst thing ive seen in a while
gaunt moat
There's just too many high profile abilities coming out in this fight and they are in random order
keen spruce
random traps
random bombs
cc immune golems if they get a random dot on them
golems walking in random directions
ye yesterday 
gaunt moat
ye yesterday <:GWvertiPeepoCheer:405951688885665792>
Did you get rank 1? 
keen spruce
Did you get rank 1? <:kekw:610125925413289985>
i got first leap during my opener
then another leap coming out of intermission 1 in my 2nd deathmark
and my beacon went 0/3 on crits
fkin 75 parse 
gaunt moat
Shouldn't lose uptime if you get first leap
keen spruce
we had a lot of those p2 wipes as well
just pray you get everyone through 2nd intermission
and that enough people survive last leap
ebon notch
Looks like healer mental boom
keen spruce
most of the time it's lava waves and people not having buttons for slams in p3
you ain't gonna be topped in p3
you gotta save yourself
basically all healer triage is on hunters and boomkins 
woeful meteor
Everyone just mental booms and decides surfing is their new main hobby
keen spruce
most of our prog looked like that
just called wipes when 2 people get lava waved in p2
but maybe idk
if u dyin in intermissions it's probably a bit of healing issues
but also peopel should be usin buttons too
steel spire
Dust helps dodge lava waves 
gaunt moat
keen spruce
yee fuckin haw
gaunt moat
I'm never the guy that hopes for nerfs
But seriously this boss is just garbage,
i just wanna move on from it
spiral pasture
hopefully you guys dont take 150 pulls like we did xd
keen spruce
we pull very fast and call wipes very early
lol
we had like 130 on rashok
but time on prog was just over average
spiral pasture
i was missing rashok the whole time doing zskarn
keen spruce
rash was so fun
our tanks are in shambles
our UH is playing grip bitch blood
and he's fuming
blazing jewel
Did you soak the bomb
keen spruce
that's one of the tanks pov
blazing jewel
So he did not soak the bomb
keen spruce
i have no fuckin idea
spiral pasture
one of our warriors went bdk alt for zskarn, feel so bad for him
ebon notch
Zskarn requires your whole raid to coordinate with each other
In order to make sure you kick the golems and defuse the traps properly
When everyone gets in sync the fight becomes so easy
spiral pasture
btw do you do double garrote when you vanish?
keen spruce
yes
balmy condor
btw do you do double garrote when you vanish?
no
spiral pasture
why you stealing range jobs tho?
spiral pasture
we pretty much golem pickers assigned
keen spruce
and we had like 5 people out for father's day, weddings n shit
spiral pasture
chasing after golems killing them etc.
keen spruce
you guys just have a ranged hit squad for golems im assuming?
keen spruce
lines are kind of okay atm
the ones during 2nd tactical destruction are a little annoying
spiral pasture
and most cringe part of the boss is you learn what to do and then just wait until pull with decent trap rng
gaunt moat
did you have any beams strategy?
clever sapphire
The fact that in pugs its legit "yo can we get 3 tanks and 4 paladins so they do the traps?" And thats already a shitshow, i dont want to imagine what that boss is on mythic
keen spruce
did you have any beams strategy?
basically jsut 2 left 2 right for now
middle safe
gonna have to refine it at some point tho
gaunt moat
I tried to tell them to do that, but they refused
woeful meteor
Hard assigning the positions is bad imo
rare heron
hi 40% crit in assa its ok? or its so much?
woeful meteor
turbid gust
install True Stat Values
woeful meteor
gusty mirage
just use top gear/droptimizer like a normal human
but how will I know if I've hit the DR of 5400 of any stat?
or 6150 vers?
balmy condor
gusty mirage
tall atlas
Yeah I have true stat values from the naowh ui and it’s a massive bait
tall atlas
I have 40% crit in my current gear it tells me it’s too much
tall atlas
Are you Lebanese oxi
balmy condor
Yeah I have true stat values from the naowh ui and it’s a massive bait
I love all the videos in 2023 about pawn and true stat values like
" YOU ARE LOSING DAMAGE! THE ONE THING YOU HAVE TO KNOW ABOUT STATS "
and then it's like a 15 minute video where the guy stares at his character window
and he goes "this addon gives me a bar and you shouldn't go past the bar"
tall atlas
Yea it’s bad
balmy condor
tall atlas
There are no good rogue content creators now
blazing jewel
!secondbraincells whispyr I have 73% vers and my RL said I need to pump the big meters how much haste do I need for my dots to snapshot
tall atlas
Infexious and the red rogue went away
balmy condor
3 more
tall atlas
I might make one and get the boiz to verify it
balmy condor
Infexious and the red rogue went away
red rogue is still around just less active
infexious has had his share of controversies in his videos too
idk
balmy condor
nah just questionable info sometimes
he got better about it in shadowlands
and then irl hit
and he moved on
tall atlas
Hope he’s okay
balmy condor
yeah he's doing good
idle inlet
But I don’t go outside so
Relatable
severe oyster
Does rank matter for armor patches damage wise? Or does it just make things easier for the crafter?
gusty mirage
just recipe difficulty
arctic current
Still using infexious weakauras and struggle with anything else lol
raw plover
!whispyr
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raw plover
!fuu
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tepid lichen
!fuu
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rotund wagon
does mind numbing poison stack with similar effects
balmy condor
yes
tepid lichen
do we need haste to play sin or can i swap from sub gear? (i have 0 haste crit/vers and 0 haste crit/mast sets for sub)
tepid lichen
cuz i notice the bis list on spreadsheet has a lot of haste on it
tepid lichen
because of the ilvl and agility granted or because haste has a breakpoint or..?
balmy condor
because haste is a good stat
vapid sierra
haste just good auto attack and energy regen no?
balmy condor
tepid lichen
ok
balmy condor
dot tick rate
vapid sierra
ah
tepid lichen
my set has 584 haste without any gem swaps
balmy condor
perfect
tepid lichen
should i just sim my crit/mast sub set w/ other gems
balmy condor
you can if you'd like
vapid sierra
how much haste do you run? :)
run whatever the sim tells you
balmy condor
irrelevant information
vapid sierra
if it wants more haste it wants more haste
if it wants more crit it wants more crit
it wont prevent you from playing the spec tho
you just wotn have that extra tiny %
tepid lichen
roger
balmy condor
yeh
tepid lichen
figured but i knew in past tiers when i played sin, haste was a major stat and typically top 1/2, weird seeing it not being a stacked stat in my mind i guess
balmy condor
secondaries in general matter very little
the only time where you actually had issues performing on sin without a stat was during nya'lotha
and even then it was mostly whatever
cause crit corruptions were within like 2%
drifting cloud
false I have issues performing on sin every tier
tepid lichen
should run this for most raid bosses then? (next 3 bosses in raid for me are ST)
balmy condor
yes
tepid lichen
balmy condor
false I have issues performing on sin every tier
probably because you have 3.5% haste when you should've had 5.15239%
unlucky
drifting cloud
ill work on that
woeful meteor
HUH
runic hinge
ain't no way
tepid lichen
runic hinge
link sims
woeful meteor
unless you play sub with sword offhand that isnt possible
also 130k sub how juiced is your char
tepid lichen
i mean i literally just equipped my sub sets and simmed normal patchwerk 5min very basic stuff but with no-exsang sin build
and thats the result
woeful meteor
unless there is a missinput in your sim that doesnt happen tho
blazing jewel
actually impossible
runic hinge
mine are within 3k
tepid lichen
unless i imported the wrong talents or something
blazing jewel
I simmed higher as sin when I was 442 in all sub gear
tepid lichen
which i took from the sin channelk
ill run them again after raid
and see
i dont see what error could've been made its just standard quick sim
runic hinge
there's just no way it can be that different lol, i mean i have barely any haste as sin and my sims are 3k apart with sin being higher
lament aurora
186k overall in 20 brackenhide, sin pretty gud 👍
runic hinge
dtb+ic?
lament aurora
yeah
prisma monolithBOT
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tepid lichen
?
keen spruce
where did 129k come from 
keen spruce
no i just ran it
tepid lichen
with me in M+ gear
yeah
u ran me
in M+ gear
and M+ talents probably
cuz it has nelth equipped
and full mastery set
keen spruce
hmm
tacit otter
like i said after raid ill redo sims
if you really wanted an answer, why didnt you just post the initial sims?^^
runic hinge
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tacit otter
i mean he already did those, just copy pasting isnt that much more time consuming than making a screenshot? no?
tepid lichen
i was doing quick sims on my break
keen spruce
you probably did dungeon slice in the wrong talents or something
woeful meteor
you are on rasok how do you sim 130k that borderlines rquires sark dagger and beacon on 450
keen spruce
cuz that 115 sim is in ST talents
but m+ gear
apparently
you probably ran ST talents in dungeon slice
keen spruce
i just ran you again in d-slice and it was like 126k or something. which isn't super accurate cuz i'm just lookin up your toon
keen spruce
i mean regardless, they can't resim it rn
i think there was just a goof in the settings
tacit otter
i think there was just a goof in the settings
ye same but i dont see the reason not to post the 2 initial sims from browser history or sim history if hes logged in
keen spruce
dude idk i'm not a geologist
tacit otter
wondering why his sin was 106, seems crazy for that ilvl
keen spruce
cuz he ran ST builds in dungeon slice
i'm pretty sure
which is why sin looks so dogshit
tepid lichen
ok yea the 129 was a dslice sim and
my sub ST sim is like 122k iirc
that's still like
16k diff from the sin ST sim
which is still impossible no
keen spruce
yeah the assas sim was probably also in dungeon slice
keen spruce
cuz with your gear you should be like 126k ish
tepid lichen
afk til after raid
keen spruce
or more
earnest remnant
runic hinge
I'm at 119 with 439 and bad trinkets
woeful meteor
reclear 3rd alt doing rashok jpc on burner 😄
tepid lichen
oh
why the fuck are they turned off randomly
??
im not sure how that can happen i literally always just leave it on optimal buffs or whatever
but that's the issue i guess then ill resim w/ all buffs
keen spruce
did you open someone else's sim maybe and it had goofy settings or somethin? idk just spitballin
weird tho, never had that happen
tepid lichen
no idea
stiff geode
Have the annulet ring nerfs made it into raidbots yet?
woeful meteor
enable expert mode put ptr=1 into header
stiff geode
does it matter which sim option version I pick up above in the normal field then?
woeful meteor
idk I always sim latest unless pins told me otherwise
stiff geode
alrighty I appreciate the infos
oof, it broke things, said im doing 29k dps 😄 maybe it isn't up to date for ret pallies yet or something, ill try to remember this tidbit of infos tho
final sky
why would we
ionic fox
we have improved garrote on
final sky
alrdy have the imp garrote from initial one
ionic fox
and shrouded suffocation
final sky
wait wdym not garroting twice what do you do for your opener?
ionic fox
i guess why not garrote snd garrote beacon sepsit deathmark shiv envonom echo envonom
woeful meteor
1 you missed rupture in your opener
final sky
yeah no rupture
woeful meteor
2 double gar was good necessary because of exsang which is no longer playable
polar fiber
The others take priority?
somber sparrow
do we not garrote after snd
without exsang taking half of it away, the sepsis will be enough to refresh an improved garrote to the max time
polar fiber
Yup ^——-
ionic fox
ahh kk
final sky
alrdy have the imp garrote from initial one
that's what I was trying to say here, probably could have worded it better though
ionic fox
still not worth the 3 combo points
final sky
sorry
woeful meteor
Mutilate gives 3 cp most of the time aswell and deals more dmg
You can also just echo after the smd
final sky
plus for raid we run the mut deals +20% bleed dmg right? so we get that extra dmg too
(not on wow rn so can't check)
woeful meteor
And do rupture sepsis mark etc from there
runic hinge
also sepsis is gonna extend your imp garrote regardless so no need for the extra
distant hinge
Oh i had a question about this i might have missed, it says shiv when first shiv fades, but i dont see a shiv in opener until that shiv with the 1
final sky
I think it just means shiv again after that shiv
because it's the first shiv
so instad of making the picture longer and more intimidating for new players, just just put that saying to shiv again when it fades
distant hinge
ohhh i get it
final sky
(I could be wrong)
remote oak
Don’t cap on shiv charges and place shiv together with tea if you can
Think that’s pretty much it
And hold one shiv for DM
Did I miss anything
bitter aurora
Sepsis shiv
normal otter
Good day, I sometimes have the problem in a longer Single Target (using mutilate as builder) that I run out of energy. Because of that I’m getting a little bit downtime sometimes so I’m waiting globals to press a new mutilate or envenom. As soon as I see that a cooldown for example deathmark comes up I try to pool a little bit and safe a tea use for extra mastery. Are these energy starving situations normal? Played shadow before because of that the downtime feels a little bit weird because you never had that as shadow in a optimal case.
gaunt moat
Yes it's normal.
And no, you shouldn't try to play around thistle tea and energy pooling
using DM will give you a lot of energy as it is
keen spruce
the only time i "pool" is like maybe a global or two before a sepsis if i'm completely dry
so i can garrote out of sepsis right away
but i doubt it's even a gain
normal otter
Okay noted. Thanks a lot Guys
keen spruce
actually even typing that out it would be a wash anyways
balmy condor
actually even typing that out it would be a wash anyways
It’s good to wash
You’re stinky
keen spruce
blazing jewel
Sin rogues have a certain stink that stinks
oak sky
Sin rogues have a certain stink that stinks
🐟 🗣️ 🔥
blazing jewel
Fish stink smell?
oak sky
i am a sturgeon
blazing jewel
Lemme rip you open so I can be rich
keen spruce
duckfart
unborn hatch
Hej! Is the Diurna Ring with fire hat still good? Or better replace now? 🙂
balmy condor
diurna ring can be okay with bomb dispenser
which is a trinket
but the hat sucks
there's better embelishments
and usually when you craft off of the hat, the ring drops too
unborn hatch
Okay thanks (:
runic hinge
Hat
balmy condor
🎩
brazen zodiac
👒
grim jay
If you imagine the spinny thingy dealing damage, that picture is an accurate representation of how I felt about cowl the entire s1
royal lantern
i now want a cool spinning hat tmog in wow
royal lantern
give me a dragon transmog thats a spinning hat
a spinning hat for the dragon mount
and it spins faster when you speed up
clever sapphire
it wouldnt even be hard, and they could make it have different tops
different colours, spinning parts
deft flicker
Giovanni Giorgio would be proud of you
grim tree
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clever sapphire
i have come to the realisation that people look on fuus sheet more often then whispyrs sheet, because its easier to spell and shorter
seeing how often people misspell whispyr
probably scared of him now and they dont wanna spell it
royal lantern
wdym, whispry is easy to spell
clever sapphire
ik, i never spelled whyspir wrong
deft flicker
Did someone say !whypsir??
clever sapphire
(im pretty sure i also missspelled his name the first time i wanted to look at his sheet xD)
forest chasm
Just do what I do, wait for someone else to spell it or scroll up in the chat
clever sapphire
i just copy his name, put it in the search bar and click on the link
balmy condor
fuu's also compares all the specs together
which people are interested in a lot of the time
winter gale
Any tips&tricks for Zskarn for rogues?
balmy condor
cause they'll do shit like "OMG ASSASSINATION IS 3k HIGHER IN SINGLE TARGET THAN SUB I NEED TO SWAP"
and then go bonkers
clever sapphire
which people are interested in a lot of the time
im only interested in the one and only rogue spec and if it plays exsang
deft flicker
cause they'll do shit like "OMG ASSASSINATION IS 3k HIGHER IN SINGLE TARGET THAN...
I don’t think I’ll ever understand this flavour of bonkering
balmy condor
a lot of people enjoy sim number up idk
clever sapphire
i looked at that once, copied the top simming outlaw/sub build. Realised im fully built for assa and the sub build was 5k less dmg, the outlaw 15k less
and went back to the best rogue spec
winter gale
We will down it tonight for sure but still I dont know exactly what’s best to use defensives for etc
I have my 2nd sepsis on 1st TD
I guess I should delay it as I cannot use 2nd garrote on boss
balmy condor
which I could help but I killed it with the cheese before it got hotfixed and refuse to play that dogshit boss ever again
vestal wren
cause they'll do shit like "OMG ASSASSINATION IS 3k HIGHER IN SINGLE TARGET THAN...
need to switch immidiatly
balmy condor
the bis list simulation with perfect play with no mechanics says +0.5%
I am heroic raider, must take advantage right away
grim jay
cause they'll do shit like "OMG ASSASSINATION IS 3k HIGHER IN SINGLE TARGET THAN...
Maybe they need to compare to get another reason to not deal with rotten 
vestal wren
heroic raider with 410 item level
vestal wren
"what spec should i play to get purple logs"
deft flicker
"what spec should i play to get purple logs"
Demonology. Stuff hits like a log and is purple af
balmy condor
"I want to play assassination but the sims have 3000 haste at 446 item level and I only have 200, so I can't"
vestal wren
damn this reminds me of bfa
can't play assassination if you don't have bis azerite traits
grim jay
"what spec should i play to get purple logs"
Havoc because you are already above 80 if you dont drool on your keyboard
balmy condor
can't play assassination if you don't have bis azerite traits
correct, need them for the scaling
vestal wren
if we trust in the dev team
the new evoker spec will do 80% of the damage if you afk
clever sapphire
"I want to play assassination but the sims have 3000 haste at 446 item level and...
damn whipsyr so toxic since he became purple, can we get orangespyr back?
grim jay
damn whipsyr so toxic since he became purple, can we get orangespyr back?
You didnt experience orangespyr with all his might
balmy condor
damn whipsyr so toxic since he became purple, can we get orangespyr back?
it's not toxic if it's a quote
vestal wren
i am sure this will lead to peopl trying to get 100% out of the spec and not watch animes on a 2nd screen afking
deft flicker
Sudden realization
balmy condor
yes sir
that's my egirl
back off
every discord mod needs an egirl don't you know
deft flicker
I know
balmy condor
I'm just doing my job
grim jay
(Kinda surprised I found it that quick)
grim jay
that's my egirl
I thougt I'm your e-girl
grim jay
Big rizz energy
deft flicker
that's my egirl
Just this thing kinda startled me. No idea why. Wanted to ping you to say thank you for lightening up my mood (was feeling sad) and saw someone wear another part of your pfp as their pfp and then it clicked
clever sapphire
I thougt I'm your e-girl
told ya, its the purple, he has been consumed by sarkareth
balmy condor
Just this thing kinda startled me. No idea why. Wanted to ping you to say thank ...
the full image was an anniversary gift
I had it commissioned
deft flicker
Yeah, you sent it here a while ago, cute af
balmy condor
now she's got it hanging on her wall
very sick
my grandparents asking me when I'm getting married is whack tho
don't like that
deft flicker
my grandparents asking me when I'm getting married is whack tho
Yeah, that’s weird
deft flicker
Glad my family knows nothing about my gf
balmy condor
and now they're like "you're 23, can't you just get married already you're not getting younger"
clever sapphire
and now they're like "you're 23, can't you just get married already you're not g...
can relate so hard, they are like "i was already thinking about my second kid at your age"
grim jay
Told mine that if I get married it wont be before I'm like 31+ yo
Same with kids
Got my life to live
deft flicker
and now they're like "you're 23, can't you just get married already you're not g...
They always seem to be in a rush for something, be it family, job, house, etc, but so far no one has the faintest clue why
balmy condor
can relate so hard, they are like "i was already thinking about my second kid at...
I could feel the hair on the back of my neck stand up
royal lantern
Where he got cat ears
thats just the irl reference pic
balmy condor
my favorite is the "why aren't you guys moving into your own place" and me having to explain that an apartment here is 2500-3000 a month and I only make maybe 1500-2000 a month
grim jay
thats just the irl reference pic
Imagine working there and someone shows you a cute couple-pic, but suddenly you realize he wears cat ears
royal lantern
and now they're like "you're 23, can't you just get married already you're not g...
man, im 26 and constantly get "most people in your age have a girl allready" thrown at me
clever sapphire
they still live in the age where buying a house was normal and you could afford it
deft flicker
“Dude you ain’t getting younger go get a job/a wife” - “Are you in a rush or smth??” - “Well why aren’t you in a rush what’s wrong with you??”
balmy condor
"just spend 75% of your combined income on an apartment 5head"
grim jay
my favorite is the "why aren't you guys moving into your own place" and me havin...
Wait is that renting or buying
clever sapphire
now i go to a restaurant and pay 100€ for 2 people
balmy condor
Wait is that renting or buying
renting
clever sapphire
like da hell
royal lantern
BUYING A HOUSE IN 2023 
balmy condor
we were looking at one that's 2980 a month for 55 square meters
clever sapphire
whispyr living in some rich guy neighbourhood
clever sapphire
california prices are insane, in Vienna if i rent one in the middle of the city it still "only" costs like 2.5k a month
grim jay
idk like 50-60?
Differences like that are always baffling. I paid off the debt for the 160m² annex with like 780€ monthly
deft flicker
actually so tired of this shit jfc
balmy condor
it aint even in san francisco
if we wanted an apartment in san francisco near where we go to school
I mean
forget it lmao
grim jay
forget it lmao
What are the prices for a medium sized house around your area? Like 160m²+
royal lantern
forget it lmao
did you try to stop slacking, work harder, and be the son of a guy that owns a slave driven emerald mine?
grim jay
Like 1.5m ?
balmy condor
What are the prices for a medium sized house around your area? Like 160m²+
uhhhhhhh
like a purchase?
grim jay
Ye
balmy condor
depends a lot on the area
clever sapphire
did you try to stop slacking, work harder, and be the son of a guy that owns a s...
wdym just stream on kick, get a 100 million yearly deal and done
balmy condor
but like
if you're wanting to get closer to san francisco
you're looking at like
1.5, 1.6
2 mil
upper san francisco near the bay is closer to 2.5, 3
clever sapphire
your grandkids grandkids are still gonna pay for that
balmy condor
my dads house is 180m2
he bought it in 1997 for 450,000
it's now worth 2.7 mil
and that's like, the appraisal value for it
that's not what it would sell for
which means it'll sell for probably 3mil
easily
silicon valley baby
grim jay
I'm living in a bigger city and a higher class area, someone in the same street sold his house with ~170m² and 800m² property for like 400k
balmy condor
it's like a 10 minute drive to apple headquarters
grim jay
Interior wasnt up to standard tho
balmy condor
20 minute drive to google
clever sapphire
have you thought about selling the house and buying one in san francisco for yourself
now nobody can complain that you dont own a house
balmy condor
and then like
you see those numbers
and you're like wow that's insane
minimum wage here is 17.50 an hour
clever sapphire
but ye prices are like insane in certain places, im not sure how people are supposed to afford appartments
balmy condor
if you work 40 hours a week, 4 weeks a month
that's 2800 a month
so
that covers rent
grim jay
minimum wage here is 17.50 an hour
12 euro
balmy condor
they did a study in my area
and found that if your household is making under 112k a year
you're considered in poverty
grim jay
In germany overall poverty line is like 1.2k net income a month for a single person
balmy condor
lmao
grim jay
Now prolly like 1.4
balmy condor
I make 1.5-1.6