assassination

[balmy condor]

Yeh

You’ll always have 6 max

[quartz kraken]

im lvl 22

[balmy condor]

Oh

[quartz kraken]

im reading the guide as i go

[balmy condor]

Yeah no point in asking anything then

[quartz kraken]

no harm in getting the basics correct before max level

[balmy condor]

The game legit does not make sense before max level

[keen spruce]

surley rashok dies today

lost like 2 days of prog to server / internet issues

now like 3 people are out this weekend for various weddings / father's day stuff

[clever sapphire]

i found out that i have a special power. Every guild i have joined so far disbanded 🤣 , this time i only joined as a friend and not even a raider, guild still disbanded

[royal lantern]

yooooo

are we the same person?

4th guild that i joined so far in DF that disbanded

[clever sapphire]

well i remember when i first started interacting in this discord some1 said if im the new you

i guess thats just how it is

[keen spruce]

you can get hired by liquid or echo

[clever sapphire]

im gonna contact liquid and ask if they want any guild gone

ye

[keen spruce]

next level rogue rp

[royal lantern]

that somone was shiennar

[gusty mirage]

[clever sapphire]

im not good with names so i will trust you on that one

[oak sky]

Meownar

[grim jay]

thought @shrewd night is meownar now

[oak sky]

Yeah

[gaunt moat]

Already? 😮

[normal otter]

hey guys, someone here who could take a look at a log of chamber and let me know if i do something wrong?

[grim jay]

try wowanalyzer

its already pretty good for the basics

[normal otter]

oh okay thansk a lot

[viral aurora]

how do you guys go about with the bomb trinket, just send it on cd?!

[normal otter]

wowanalyzer says that everything looks fine i guess. BUt its still only 76 ilvl log. I mean my itemlevel is not that great and i dont really have good gear yet

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-toby-the-cat-nod-yes-yes-yes-hooman-gif-17105827

rashok died

rl+officers have a wow burnout and stop

🙂

[clever sapphire]

items pretty much sum it up, otherwise its gonna be about kill timing, if you actually sent your cooldowns on cooldown, minmaxing emopwered garrote duration and whatnot

but gear is probably gonna be the biggest factor in that case

[clever sapphire]

burnout is what i always hear, but hey rashok dead, time to apply to echo or liquid and become the best assa rogue

[grim jay]

ilvl logs are beyond useless

and bad

dont care for those

[white bone]

!whyspyr

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[grim jay]

the good old whyspyr

[clever sapphire]

i see whyspir more often

[vapid sierra]

!wshipyr

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[quartz kraken]

i just noticed you're the dude who wrote the wowhead guide

[main vessel]

where's the Whispyr copypasta

[grim jay]

thats actually the best version yet

[shrewd night]

Which of them

[proper tapir]

That's why we all prefer the icy-veins guides, you're catching on pretty quickly.....

[grim jay]

[main vessel]

fair point

I found one that works

Hello, I am the Assassination Rogue theorycrafter and guide writer for wowhead, method, head moderator in the rogue discord, and I microwave my chicken nuggets by choice, even though I own both an oven and an air fryer. I do this because I prefer to eat them that way. Thank you for your time

[balmy condor]

I WILL NOT BACK DOWN ON THAT

[subtle tundra]

get this guy a brain

[balmy condor]

I am a man who knows his preferences

And my preference is a soggy nugget

[subtle tundra]

youre a weird boy

[balmy condor]

You can’t change me

[subtle tundra]

oh i can change you

[proper tapir]

Honestly Chamber is a bad one to go off of too. In normal and heroic you can stack the bosses in P1 if your healers can handle it, that skews the metrics. But yeah, ilevel parse is garbage and you probably won't be parsing 90th if you're like 435.

[normal otter]

Okay thanks for your answers! will try to get some more gear and look at logs later again

[clever sapphire]

i like how the only thing that took whispyr out of his slumbering was a mention of his soggy nuggies

[vapid sierra]

oi

mine was a typing mistake

[vapid sierra]

bro what?

you microwave them

ur giving me ptsd with all due respect

[balmy condor]

I’ve been awake all day, im with my girl today, 8 year anniversary

[clever sapphire]

ah didnt mean it like that, but enjoy your anniversary tho

[grim jay]

I have some for you 😏

[grim jay]

same

we do have one specific brand of nuggets that are great if you make them in the micro tho

[keen spruce]

it's dead

ofc the pull that i get 700 mechanics

and 0/3 beacon crits

[thin scroll]

Skill issue

[gusty mirage]

have you tried being better

[gusty mirage]

better players crit their beacon

[keen spruce]

[gusty mirage]

just saying

[keen spruce]

i lost to our surv hunter

[gusty mirage]

how

[keen spruce]

well he was first

[earnest remnant]

u calling me bad

[gusty mirage]

no, how did you think anyone here asked?

https://tenor.com/view/deez-ha-got-heem-got-em-got-him-gif-4824899

[gusty mirage]

yes

[earnest remnant]

[brazen zodiac]

oh shit bro

you too? 💃

[gusty mirage]

push would crit all his beacons

[earnest remnant]

wouldnt know

he never had one

[main vessel]

you just joined DOMS

[keen spruce]

[gusty mirage]

ily

[keen spruce]

i was pullin amalgam so i bet u thought u were so clever with me not responding

[earnest remnant]

why pullin it

why no dead already?

[keen spruce]

idk we went to go finish rashok

before doin the rest of the reclear lol

[keen spruce]

[austere fulcrum]

% 4 buff bring so much love on this channel, imagine if they rework our assa. 🫣

[gusty mirage]

all the 4% buff did was make shmeeps make me sim a bunch of dumb shit

if that's love

I hope I die alone

[austere fulcrum]

Hahaha

[clever sapphire]

we all know it was the loss of exsang that made you sim so much

and not the buff

[austere fulcrum]

Yes and no

[austere fulcrum]

Let me know next i ll do your sims 🤗

[gusty mirage]

he never played exsang

even when it wasn't broken

[brazen zodiac]

just for a few days ;p

need the hearth cd perk for science purposes 💃

[keen spruce]

but did i hate exang because of puzzle box

or did i hate puzzle box because of exang

[clever sapphire]

i will give you the answer:
Did you hate puzzle box? yes
Did you hate exsang? yes
Did it make it worse that you had to play both? yes

[keen spruce]

maybe it was the unholy union of the two that was worse than the sum of its parts

[idle gorge]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-por-que-no-gif-23322568

[quartz kraken]

icy veins

[gusty mirage]

damn

[runic hinge]

This is too far

[gusty mirage]

gonna insult seli to his face huh

[upper timber]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[sinful temple]

hey guys does anyone know in m+ do we hold our exsanguinates for deathmark or do we unalign them?

can't find the answer anywhere

[gusty mirage]

we don't play exsanguinate anymore

it's bugged

[sinful temple]

really? whats bugged about it

[gusty mirage]

when you deathmark the exsanguinated bleeds it doesn't copy the tickrate

[sinful temple]

tf?

[gusty mirage]

yep

[sinful temple]

It didn't always work like that right

[gusty mirage]

no, it happened around the 10.0.5 patch

we just recently noticed it

[thick sail]

Probably a dumb question incoming:

Do I need to actually play Crimson Tempest in M+? There seems to be significant tension between wanting to maintain the CT debuff and wanting to keep the Envenom debuff up, as well as between wanting to spam CT on groups, compared to wanting to spam Envenom hoping to proc Poison Bomb on groups.

Assuming I'm using CT, should I be spamming that on groups, or should I only refresh it to maintain the bleed uptime?

Thanks in advance for advice

[balmy condor]

Not playing CT would be tragic

[proper tapir]

I mean yeah, you can just fish for PB procs... But that would be a huge loss over just maintaining CT in multi target. Usually the contentious point is "CT Spam" not CT bleed upkeep

[thick sail]

That's a fair point

I found that on large multitarget pulls, spamming CT produced pretty nice damage, but there's also tension between that and keeping enough bleeds up to be able to spam

The spec doesn't feel very good to play in M+ right now, not gonna lie

It felt pretty great in Shadowlands by comparison

[misty comet]

Unfortunately, it was uncompetitive as shit in shadowlands.

[thick sail]

Compared to the other two specs, I agree, it was behind, but it felt cohesive to play

It feels like too many spinning plates currently, I can't put my finger on what changed

(And I played and loved Crimson Tempest in SL)

[keen spruce]

too many spinning plates is the core class definition of assas

[proper tapir]

That's part of the gameplay tho, keeping rupture out for energy/damage. If it doesn't feel right then just do sub/outlaw in m+, play what you like; we'll love you either way.

[soft shale]

feral used to be the same but they got blizz attention

pray that assa gets the same treatment

a talent for split rupture/garrote would be heavenly

GCD economy is already so krangled

[proper tapir]

Idk, Hacha, we're not really the hopeful types here... We're like a bunch of emo doomers.

[soft shale]

well shadow and boomkins have gotten like 4 reworks cant assa get 1

[dark token]

This is why sin aoe is poorly designed

This + spending on rupture

No proper finisher

[woeful meteor]

Personally would rather keep being useless in aoe than turn into Aff/Feral/Spriest, where dots are a afterthought in aoe now

[dark token]

Isn't sin already there

With 45 sec IC

[oak sky]

Yes

[woeful meteor]

Yes, but IC is nothing compared to 20 sec shadowcrag

[oak sky]

And feral dots arent really an afterthought

You have to multidot rake and maintain thrash

[past forum]

While I like the playstyle of “dot in aoe and cleave by pumping st damage” but it’s been done enough that it would be an inelegant solution i think

[oak sky]

And even though primal wrath is your spam rip does a lot of your damage

[woeful meteor]

The dot in aoe part and cleave st part, would be fine if they dont give the spec perfect aoe dot coverage

imagine 18 sec IC so you have 100% gar and rupture uptime

[oak sky]

Even with 45s ic you barely think about your dots

You just apply if energy starts getting bad

[woeful meteor]

True, dont rly care what happens to our aoe as long as it doesnt delete the spec from ST viability

[thick sail]

Realistically speaking, would it actually be OP if IC was just passive, and just maybe have the damage be split amongst however many targets you put your Rupture and Garrote on?

If that were the case, it would swap us from an "every 45 seconds this class feels great in M+ for one single pull" to "okay now our DOTs suck for AOE damage but we can just spam our builders for damage and have infinite energy on AOE pulls which is fun so who cares"

[past forum]

Would something similar to the OL tier set be fun for people? Like, having a finisher consume some dot duration to deal instant damage?

[thick sail]

Dashing Scoundrel also feels super non-impactful, 1 energy regen per crit on a poison tick is miserable at low gear levels

The added poison application feels nice, but then that just sort of invalidates another of our 2/2 talents, the +10% poison application one

Like, pls get your shit together Blizzard

[balmy condor]

the damage split would kill the talent instantly

no one would ever play it

[balmy condor]

we've kinda been asking for a mechanic like that for the last 5 years lowkey

[thick sail]

Right, I'm just kind of spitballing, but given how sad our M+ damage is, would it just straight up being passive even be unfair? I feel like on many pulls where I activate IC, I'm still not always #1 DPS on the meter.

Maybe like, keep IC as an active Ability with a 45 second CD, but make it always passively apply from stealth? Or JUST make it passively apply from stealth?

[balmy condor]

yeh but it would kinda warp the power of IC

[thick sail]

That would add additional synergy with restealthing using Vanish, Shadowmeld for night elves, and also Shadow Dance, which is currently never used

[balmy condor]

you can't keep buffing one ability over and over and over and over without just making it so overbearing to the spec

similar thing to like echoing blades in nyalotha

now you're just spamming fok

the design of the spec breaks down at some point

IC being a passive means you never multidot again ever

and the spec isn't designed for storm->powder gameplay like subtlety

which is the problem in the first place

[thick sail]

Oh, I'm in agreement, fully. IC isn't the only Ability that needs reworking. Doomblade is pretty awful too, the main reason I see validity in taking it is 1) purely for single target raid DPS, and 2) for a small buff to that one talent that buffs your poisons/bleeds for each poison/bleed on the target

[balmy condor]

IC is plenty powerful on its own, its just that actually making use of it doesn't really do anything

if you're doing 100k without IC

and IC adds 80k

you press IC

and now you're just doing 100k + the 80k

still pathetic

the problem is that bleeds themselves don't do jack shit

[thick sail]

Right, it's both brainless and unexciting

[balmy condor]

so there's no real scaling to begin with

which they added as a sort of fail-safe to make sure dot classes can't just dot everything for infinity damage

but they went a bit overboard with it on assassination

and now it just doesn't do anything in aoe

[thick sail]

Ultimates in the tree, I feel, should change gameplay in a somewhat tangible manner. Sepsis being 1.5 mins is a massive bummer. Bone Spike having such a low cooldown allowing you to weave it into your regular rotation frequently feels good. But again, it's in a miserable spot in the tree

The bottom of our tree has too much bloat, why is the +agi talent 3 points? Why is the execute talent 3 points? These aren't super fun talents to begin with, making them cost 3 points just gatekeeps us from using interesting build variations

[balmy condor]

sepsis probably one of the most impactful gameplay changes we have

now that I think about it, I think it just is the most impactful

straight up

[thick sail]

Don't get me wrong, a lot of the talents in the tree are really well done, but again, another example. Blindside is probably my favorite talent in our tree, so fun to use, appreciably changes the rotation and feels good to use. Yet, you can't get it in most different builds. You need to go almost STRAIGHT down the left side of the tree to get to it

[balmy condor]

idk about that

[thick sail]

So it's really hard to make a viable, cohesive build with Blindside and IC. But like, why

[balmy condor]

you can grab it from vicious venoms a lot

[thick sail]

That's 2 points

[balmy condor]

and you're gonna path to deathmark regardless

[thick sail]

Which is another bizarre gatekeep

Absolutely, Deathmark is a given. Which, again

Bad design

"here's your talent choices! But you MUST take this one!"

[quasi osprey]

Fuck it festering wounds for sin

[tall atlas]

Well it is a choice you could choose not to take it

And take another talent

[thick sail]

Another great example: Venomous Wounds. Why is this not the FIRST talent in the tree? The tree literally does not function without this.

[balmy condor]

Idk if I really agree with that being bad design

[tall atlas]

Fair enough your damage will be mostly non competitive

[thick sail]

You can play the spec without Deadly Poison, which is the mandatory talent in the tree

But the spec is UNPLAYABLE without Venomous Wounds

Literally

[tall atlas]

Well

If you drive from one side of your town to another there will always be a best path

[woeful meteor]

ofc you can change the tree just make it 20 instead of 30 points and remove the must picks but thats equally cringe

[tall atlas]

You can take other paths if you want that will take longer or might be more fun for you nl

[thick sail]

I'm absolutely not saying remove points, I'm saying make everything a 1 point node, put in more paths and node options, and make things more interconnected

[tall atlas]

But when you implement multiple options with the same outcome there is usually an”best path”

[thick sail]

When paths are really isolated, it makes it really clear what the ideal builds are

[tall atlas]

So what you want PoE?

[thick sail]

I just like having viable choices!

[tall atlas]

But you do

[sonic zinc]

so lets go back to the old talent system but replace talents

[tall atlas]

You have 2 other rogue specs to also play

[balmy condor]

I think that having "required" talents like that actually adds meaningful choice in how you get to it, if you made things like deathmark baseline you would just be aimlessly meandering through the tree picking up the best % gains along the way, rather than actually pathing towards something. You take the actual end of your path out of the equation that way, and make it more daunting for casual players at the same time because they don't have a guide marker to folllow at all

not sure I really like that

[quasi osprey]

Idk if I'm missing a point perhaps but part of having mandatory picks in the tree is that blizz cares about the leveling experience drip feeding you abilities so some stuff is just gonna kinda be there

[tall atlas]

It’s always been like that

[balmy condor]

even in PoE you have your skill and there's "required" points

[thick sail]

Do you think a random 50 year old dad who plays on the weekends knows that Venomous Wounds is mandatory?

[balmy condor]

yes

[cerulean walrus]

Yeah

[tall atlas]

That’s kind of discriminatory bro

Why would a 50 year old be any less likely to read a guide

[cerulean walrus]

Cause what kind of 50 year old dad would look at a talent named Venomous Wounds and not be like “HELL YEAH BROTHER FUCK EM UP!”

[balmy condor]

it ain't even about guide or no guide

[cerulean walrus]

[tall atlas]

And even if he doesn’t why would he care

[balmy condor]

it's just

any amount of spec knowledge and gameplay feel will dictate it to whoever

it's a teachable lesson that the game gives you

without venomous wounds, the spec slows to an absolute snail pace

you're tasked with "how do I fix this"

and you see venomous wounds, you try it

it fixes the problem

now you have a ton of energy

that's not something you need to play a lot for

that's part of the process of learning your spec and the game

everyone goes through that

[oak sky]

Wound attack 🗣

[thick sail]

That's terrible design, man. I can give you a hard and fast example

[sonic zinc]

u know what they should do

[thick sail]

My friend is a surgeon, 67 years old

[balmy condor]

what

[sonic zinc]

get rid of cold blood

fixes everything

[thick sail]

Does not have a lot of time to play the game or research the game

He plays a frost mage

Has like 420 ilev gear and was doing like 20k dps

Because he specced horribly

There are plenty of people out there that legitimately do not know they're breaking their specs by not taking key talents

[balmy condor]

you think having to play a game to learn your spec is bad design? and your solution to that is making the talent tree even more confusing by taking out the guide marker talents that people need to path to?

hows that make any sense

[crisp burrow]

He can go to wowhead an copy/paste the build lol

Takes 10 seconds

[sonic zinc]

ur argument sounds more in favor of the old system

heres 3 choices every 10 levels

thats it

[tall atlas]

Literal poetry

[thick sail]

I think having functional classes baseline, and having the talent trees be interesting choices from a bunch of interesting choices is a lot more engaging than "we've filled the talent tree with trash, and sprinkled like 4 mandatory talents in there, and the spec literally does not function if you skip these"

[balmy condor]

if anything, the solution to your friends issue would be to make the tree even less complicated

and remove all choice entirely

so he isn't capable of making bad ones

[cerulean walrus]

Your solution is the old shit we had lmao

[thick sail]

Or just like

[cerulean walrus]

[thick sail]

Make the choices good

[balmy condor]

??????????????????

[sonic zinc]

im confused

[thick sail]

Do damage this way, or this way, different play styles, different ways to do damage, but both viable

[crisp burrow]

Lmao that's like saying. We found that 5 years olds were having too much difficulty kicking the ball into the goals, so we put goals all around the field, so they could always score.

[oak sky]

If you cba to check what the optimal build is on your own you definitely arent doing content where you need an optimal build lol

[tall atlas]

If you want a different way to do damage respec?

[crisp burrow]

You have to put some effort into learning the game/spec

[cerulean walrus]

No matter what there will always still be a best choice

[balmy condor]

you just told me he didn't pick the big required talents, which shows a lack of game knowledge. And that's okay, he doesn't play a lot so he doesn't have that knowledge and doesn't read a guide. That's okay, people can play like that. But I don't understand how you go from "this person doesn't have the knowledge to pick deathmark up", to "the solution should be to make more complex choices". That's where you're losing me

they already can't make the easy choices

why would you make it even harder

[balmy condor]

also do you have any idea how difficult it is to make this work

"just make all the builds viable"

[cerulean walrus]

The amount of balancing work lmao

[balmy condor]

"but also make all the talents viable"

is just

[thick sail]

I mean like

[cerulean walrus]

Yo Whispyr I’m gonna bring the FoK ST build tonight to raid you good with that?

[balmy condor]

such an astromonically large task

[thick sail]

People are paid to do this

[kind talon]

out of any time to check this discord im glad i chose right now

[balmy condor]

no, they aren't

they're paid to design a fun gameplay experience

[tall atlas]

Like my car story

[thick sail]

That's a hot take

[kind talon]

no it isnt

[balmy condor]

WHAT

[woeful meteor]

You dont balance games

[cerulean walrus]

Is it really?

What on earth

[woeful meteor]

you make 1 build op and make another one op next month

[cerulean walrus]

[sonic zinc]

???????????

[balmy condor]

"game designers are paid to design a fun game" is a hot take?

bro

what

I cant

[cerulean walrus]

[woeful meteor]

Balanced Games arent fun btw

[sonic zinc]

[cerulean walrus]

Game designers are paid to suck the soul out of you like I get paid to suc-

[balmy condor]

do you know how many permutations of talents you can make using our current tree?

millions

[woeful meteor]

Trying to balance and homogenize games makes them less fun long term

[sonic zinc]

just bring this back 4head

[tall atlas]

DICKS

[cerulean walrus]

Golf ball through a garden hose

[thick sail]

You're moving goalposts.

Let's backtrack. I cannot imagine how you can defend not having Venomous Wounds at the top of the Assassination tree in favor of Deadly Poison.

[balmy condor]

right

I'm the one moving goal posts

[cerulean walrus]

[tall atlas]

Because it feels better when you’re levelling

[kind talon]

doesnt matter if you brought that back 67 year old surgeon will choose master poisoner nightstalker mfd exsanguinate hidden blades kyrian

[thick sail]

I mean your actual defense was, "it's fun gameplay that you learn that you completely fucked up your spec"

[balmy condor]

it's a powerful talent that changes the gameplay of the spec when you learn it. You progress and level your character to unlock the power

yeah

you can take more up front damage if you want to

if you're running around in open world

you probably don't need it

but then you encounter a boss mob

and oh shit you're starved

can't do that

oh look

venomous wounds

lets try that

holy energy

I killed the boss

[thick sail]

More up front damage?

[balmy condor]

I feel a sense of accomplishment

I learned my spec

[thick sail]

Deadly Poison?

[cerulean walrus]

[balmy condor]

I'm talking about venomous wounds

you take the point out

[thick sail]

Up front? It's a dot that does the same exact damage as instant, but then puts a DOT on the target

[balmy condor]

you put it into something not venomous wounds

bro

what

[thick sail]

Look at the tree

[balmy condor]

I'm not talking about deadly poison my guy

[cerulean walrus]

[balmy condor]

you told me to talk about venomous wounds

[thick sail]

If not in Venomous Wounds, where is the point going that's giving up front damage

[cerulean walrus]

[balmy condor]

I

I'm actually stunlocked

[sonic zinc]

oof

[thick sail]

LOL

[woeful meteor]

you are aware that venomous wounds doesnt work with instant poison

[sonic zinc]

whipsyr got classic rogued

[cerulean walrus]

This man

[sonic zinc]

stunlocked to oblivion

[balmy condor]

I don't know how to explain this anymore

I'm trying to explain the mere concept of a knowledge check and overcoming obstacles

and it's failing

how am I supposed to do this

help

[kind talon]

what is even the point of the argument

[cerulean walrus]

Whispyr it’s ok

We have a neutron star here

[kind talon]

changing the place of 2 insanely good talents at the top of the tree

does nothing

[cerulean walrus]

Dense as fuck

[thick sail]

I think it would help new players

[kind talon]

black hole

infinitely dense

[thick sail]

But

[balmy condor]

how

[kind talon]

in every situation you always take both

[balmy condor]

you haven't explained how adding more complicated choices

would help new players

[cerulean walrus]

Yeah but the deadly poison though

But the poison

[balmy condor]

the only way it would help, is if you balanced everything to be equivalent in every situation, which as we already mentioned is:

1. a completely unrealistic work load for any game studio
2. really boring cause your choice doesn't matter

so

I don't get it

[thick sail]

Because the spec essentially does not function without it. Like imagine Venomous Wounds is the first talent in the tree, and Deadly is just baseline. That frees up a node (without having to remap the entire tree) for them to put something that's an actual choice node. Versus

"here is a node you must get or you cannot play your class"

[balmy condor]

okay

lets say you get rid of the node

and you add a new one in

now you have 3 choices instead of 1

[thick sail]

Yes

[quasi osprey]

be me
new sin rogue
damn im energy starved all the time
lets try venomous wounds
pog i have energy now
good talent👍

[balmy condor]

that's more confusing for a new player

is it not

3 > 1

[thick sail]

It IS, and also is not. Hear me out

[cerulean walrus]

Brother

[kind talon]

this argument is also straight up ignoring the fact that deadly poison is literally assassination rogue class identity

[cerulean walrus]

IT IS AND IT ISNT

[kind talon]

u dont take that away

ever

[cerulean walrus]

BUT IT ALSO IS

AND ISNT

[thick sail]

LOL

[balmy condor]

let him cook let him cook

I'm invested now

[cerulean walrus]

Ok ok

chef’s hat is on

[balmy condor]

I have to wait out a timer in maplestory but I finished all my dailies

[keen spruce]

moving venomous wounds just feels like such a miniscule part of why assas is in a weirdge spot. why are gettin so lost in the sauce on this

[balmy condor]

you got 12 minutes and 37 seconds left

[keen spruce]

[kind talon]

if what you're getting at is illusion of choice in skill trees then i agree with that

[sonic zinc]

are u a ninja on maplestory whispyr

[woeful meteor]

While hes, cooking in bfa with echoing blades at how many targets did you start using only fok

[keen spruce]

that's all the talent trees ahve ever been for people that care about their performance

[tall atlas]

Pin this

[woeful meteor]

this is not ot

[sonic zinc]

i feel like it was 5 targets with echoing

or 8

[woeful meteor]

ok so to early

[drifting cloud]

are you at work whispyr

[thick sail]

I'm gonna do a M+

[cerulean walrus]

BROTHER

[thick sail]

But

I love you guys

[cerulean walrus]

YOU CANT JUST

[kind talon]

u cant drop a it is it isnt up down left right

and then go do an m+

after saying "hear me out"

[cerulean walrus]

HEAR ME OUT

[keen spruce]

no hear ME out

[cerulean walrus]

More like see me walk out

[kind talon]

whispyr

[tall atlas]

This was a journey

Are you guys ok

[kind talon]

on the rogue class tree

THEY NEED to change cloak of shadows and sap

[balmy condor]

maplestory inherently by design is meant to be played with an army of alts, so I play all sorts of things. My main is a warrior that harnesses the sun and moon, my second main is a pirate with sea serpents and shit, and then I play uhhh... kind of a generic warrior, a bowmaster, a crossbow marksman, a dual wielding dagger thief, a dagger/shield thief........ I'm forgetting something hold on, oh a paladin, and a fire/poison mage, and then 2 throwing star thieves but they're not geared yet kinda unlucky

[kind talon]

u dont understand

[balmy condor]

chef in the kitchen

okay

lets hear it

[kind talon]

how many times do you have a use case of sap versus cloak of shadows in actual content

boom

[cerulean walrus]

@thick sail really out here giving everyone blue balls

[thick sail]

I promise

I shall continue my wild rant soon

[cerulean walrus]

Fake

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-you-know-it-i-know-it-everybody-knows-it-its-true-gif-24093466

[earnest remnant]

personally i turn on warmode and go to leveling zones just to sap people that are questing

[tall atlas]

Wtf is maple story

[cerulean walrus]

What key are you doing?

[oak sky]

Sap should just be baseline its a utility button

[kind talon]

personally i turn on warmode in real life

[balmy condor]

korean 2D hack and slash mmo

[thick sail]

Gonna try a +3

[tall atlas]

Gl

[oak sky]

Rogue class tree ground up redo please

[tall atlas]

It looks cute af

[kind talon]

you should do a +3 with venemous wounds and without venemous wounds

[keen spruce]

make CT a builder, make an AoE finisher that consumes the CT dot as upfront damage and extends the duration of existing gar/rupture on targets it hits. promoting a balance of multidotting and harder hitting finishers

[oak sky]

No extending please

[keen spruce]

smol extension

not perma maintenence

[earnest remnant]

extend this

[keen spruce]

[kind talon]

[keen spruce]

yes chef

[oak sky]

Me

[sonic zinc]

hear me out

[oak sky]

Needs more

[balmy condor]

yuh, it's a marathon of a game though, super grindy. Kinda weird in that regard. A lot of the progression is account-wide or like "now your character is X strong and you can funnel the resources into your next character so it progresses faster" type stuff, and you build your snowball rolling down the hill. More characters = more resources to improve your characters = stronger characters that get more resources, cycle repeats etc etc. But it also means that you don't get instantly invalidated when a patch comes out like in wow. In wow a new patch comes out, new raid, new ilvl, GG noob your character is worthless now. In maple you don't play a character for 3 years, you log back in, same progression as before, you just pick it up from there and go. Really different feeling that I super enjoy honestly. Doesn't feel like it's forcing you to play on the cutting edge constantly, you just kinda do whatever you want to do, and you always feel like you're moving forward, never back. You could just do 10 minutes of dailies, but that brought you that one step forward on that character, and you log out and you're like yeah that character improved compared to yesterday, good shit

[oak sky]

Fw gone, maybe dance gone, all damage nodes confined to one section

[steel spire]

Full send a kanna at the start

[sonic zinc]

shiv feels weird at start of tree, when the other 2 are ccs

blind should be the sin cc
sap is the sub cc
and gouge is clearly the law cc, so that should be at the beginning

[balmy condor]

spawn boosters dead, kanna farmers in shambles

[steel spire]

[sonic zinc]

think my highest char is like a 120 claw thief

or 175 or something

[steel spire]

Back to bishop

[balmy condor]

a baby :3

[balmy condor]

bishop kinda cracked

[sonic zinc]

i havent played in YEARS

and i dont stick around for long when i have

maybe get a hankering for like a month

[urban mantle]

Hey guys. What is the best two trinkets for Mythic plus/AoE?

[balmy condor]

if I were playing on my own, I wouldn't play it

but I have friends to play with so it's not that bad

[balmy condor]

beacon/nelths

raid horn is good too

but it damages you so be aware of that

super janky to use

oh chromatic essence is good too if your whole party is stacking it

but that needs some coordination

honorable mention to my boy harlan dice as well

[keen spruce]

ya'll were dice haters

everyone out here rewritin history

[balmy condor]

nah

not dice haters

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/abe-simpson-abe-simpson-cloud-yelling-cloud-angry-gif-12558964

[balmy condor]

just not dice BiS

but now that fragment sucks we need a new consistent trinket to stan

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/alright-carry-on-continue-resume-keep-going-gif-16771637

[urban mantle]

Both of them come from Raid. From DG only Harlan's Dice is good for AoE?

[balmy condor]

Raid horn I guess

Fragment is okay too in aoe if you’re out of options

[gusty mirage]

no one hated dice

[balmy condor]

But the cooldown on it makes it pretty rough

[gusty mirage]

the dice were just okay

aura buffs do weird things

[keen spruce]

you're just okay

[spice spire]

I did

[gusty mirage]

bump okay trinkets up to good

[keen spruce]

[spice spire]

I’m a hater

[gusty mirage]

I'm actually dogshit

[spice spire]

[urban mantle]

Got it. For single target I supose is DBD and Irideus.Right?

[gusty mirage]

no

fragment is bad

it's oversimming

get dice or class trinket or beacon

[main vessel]

you're great in my book ❤️

[main vessel]

why does this hurt my brain

[spice spire]

Because

[woeful meteor]

[runic gorge]

hey guys. does the guide mean that i hold my second sepsis to line it up with deathmark at 2 min?

[proper tapir]

Nah, you don't hold the sepsis; rather, you use sepsis on CD but you get imp gar that last into the 2min DM

[runic gorge]

Thank you for the clarification 🙂

[light goblet]

we use deadly and not instant right? lol

[brazen zodiac]

i was gonna hyperburn one ;p

[idle inlet]

Never use instant ever

[balmy condor]

[idle inlet]

Instant turbo bad

[brazen zodiac]

i like the idea of a support

[balmy condor]

bishop honestly probably the most broken class in the game as long as you have a party for your bosses

it's like easily a 40% buff to each player

shit is insane

[brazen zodiac]

yeah it looks super strong c:

[sonic zinc]

what if, after this expac, they turn a bunch of other classes to support specs like aug
and sin gets chosen

wwyd

[balmy condor]

idk if it's fun to play then it's fun

[idle inlet]

Wrong videogames aren't fun unless your numbers are better than other people's numbers

[balmy condor]

understandable

I forgot that number = game

rookie mistake

[idle inlet]

It's why I cry everytime I open details

[sonic zinc]

just go in the details lua and make it inflate ur numbers for u

[idle inlet]

It's not the same

Can't we get a rework like paladin and become ultra busted

[deft flicker]

Reworks are weird. You can get one and it’ll be the best thing ever OR you can be a shadow priest with identity crisis

[ripe basin]

I had to wait until it was "night" for oce servers (day time for australia) to test this because I was pretty sure that "always day" in dungeons/raids is old news. Picture of my haste inside an heroic aberrus group.

Nightelf racial (haste) compared to dwarf racial is 1.3k dps.

for me at least

[runic hinge]

Assa is goated. Best spec in the game

[balmy condor]

yeah, it's the top spec alphabetically

[runic hinge]

Damn. Top of the meters by sort

I’m so glad I rerolled here.

[royal lantern]

then you killed the playerbase of many specs and probably made many people quit the game

+egirlvoker will be a normal dps with only small buffs in 11.0 anyway cus blizz cant handle it

[keen spruce]

i mean the main candidate would be DH

but like thematically

what demon hunter would be a support

[royal lantern]

if they go on with that absolute clusterfuck of an idea that makes the game worse in all waya

ita with news specs

[obtuse ruin]

Main candidate should be enhancement. I mean the name itself states that.

[royal lantern]

and not by changing old ones

[royal lantern]

mate

honest question

what are ypu talking about

are you guys ever thinking for 4seconds before talking?

[keen spruce]

well yeah i mean DH cuz they only have 2 specs

so it would be a new one

but yeah if they were gonna ret-con one enh would probably be on the table

[obtuse ruin]

I thought we talking about what class could become another support style class

[keen spruce]

maybe they make it a tank/support hybrid as a call back to classic

[royal lantern]

new specs

[keen spruce]

you guys were i kinda hijacked the conversation lol

[royal lantern]

if at all

they wont change old specs ever

they did that once

and the result was a disaster

[obtuse ruin]

Survival is fun what you mean

[keen spruce]

i don't think he's saying they will or that it would be a good idea

[obtuse ruin]

Yeah

[royal lantern]

(and the support spec concept will get scrapped anyway, idk why you guys think they will do more)

[keen spruce]

just like "hey wouldn't that be super cringe"

[keen spruce]

we don't

i do think augemtation will be a balancing nightmare

[still epoch]

what illimtied diamond od we run

do

[balmy condor]

whats your favorite color

[runic hinge]

Orange

[balmy condor]

guess you're equipping crit

that ones almost orange

[blazing jewel]

why is trying to optomize my rat sub gear for sin so difficult

its actually hurting my smooth brain

[gusty mirage]

imagine trying to optimize your gear for 2% dps

wild

[blazing jewel]

fear me

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cpmaf7ueSoV8X6kCFNSG25

the neck out of uld is almost 400 dps

and it wants my current gear to have all haste/mast gems

[gusty mirage]

or hear me out

just keep everything the same

and do 1% less damage

and be okay with it

[blazing jewel]

no

impossible

[gusty mirage]

nice rings btw

[royal lantern]

why does everyone sim so much higher when the gear is almost equal

[gusty mirage]

lmao didn't realize I woke in up February

[blazing jewel]

you love my rings dont play

[gusty mirage]

crit phial

[royal lantern]

rats

[blazing jewel]

aint no way

[royal lantern]

all of them

[blazing jewel]

people are playing vers phial

on rogue

[gusty mirage]

he also has a 450 dagger

[balmy condor]

[rocky sluice]

how do you want to use beacon and bomb dispenser trinket in the opener, sepsis build?

[blazing jewel]

im looking at your vod right now

[balmy condor]

do not

[blazing jewel]

you better have crit on

[gusty mirage]

gar > snd > er > rupture > beacon > rest of rotation

then everything on cd

[blazing jewel]

is that actually the play

Ive been sending it atfter snd is that cursed

[gusty mirage]

does it matter

it's 2 globals

lol

[balmy condor]

less than that technically since it's hasted and off gcd

[rocky sluice]

thanks

[blazing jewel]

[royal lantern]

a puppy died because you did that

i hope you are happy

[balmy condor]

probably missed 1 gcd if you lust on pull

[gusty mirage]

maybe that's why consequence struggled

[blazing jewel]

was it a cute one

[gusty mirage]

their rogue is OCD about gems and secondaries

[royal lantern]

ofc

[gusty mirage]

and 2 globals in the opener

[blazing jewel]

yea

where is the problem

[balmy condor]

he's a trial bro chill he needs the extra 7 dps

[gusty mirage]

he passed tho

[blazing jewel]

I PASSED TRIAL

[gusty mirage]

[blazing jewel]

RAT NO LONGER

[rocky sluice]

fogive me, what's er? i feel silly for asking

[gusty mirage]

echoing reprimand

don't feel silly for asking

[rocky sluice]

word! thanks lol

[gusty mirage]

there's like 84223894392848932 acronyms

[rocky sluice]

lolololo

❤️

[royal lantern]

shity SL ability

[balmy condor]

I always feel silly

I'm a silly boy

[rocky sluice]

MAPLESTORY

❤️

[gusty mirage]

do you also suffer from mental illinois?

[balmy condor]

YES SIR

[blazing jewel]

sillington silly

[rocky sluice]

HELL YEAH

shadower > nightlord though

wink

[balmy condor]

brother I've been doing dailies on 7 characters

every day

for the last week

[gusty mirage]

okay but thats in a good game

[blazing jewel]

wait hold on

[gusty mirage]

what's the problem

[blazing jewel]

oxi said we struggled

hows sark buddy guy

[balmy condor]

I'm ill

[gusty mirage]

good

[balmy condor]

I'm at a payphone

[gusty mirage]

I'm playing my favorite spec in the whole wide world

[blazing jewel]

how close is the toaster to meeting the bathtub

[gusty mirage]

buddy

lmao

lemme tell you

[blazing jewel]

p1/p2 does get like that after a while

[balmy condor]

no argument from me, you're just based

[royal lantern]

depressed 30y old?

[gusty mirage]

check DMs

[gusty mirage]

I sure love the subtlety spec

for it's superb funnel damage niche

that way I can press less buttons and still do 70k less than the demo locks getting PI

down phase doesn't matter because haste does absolutely fuck all

you're just chilling

waiting for the call to come up

1 stack

[winter gale]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[gusty mirage]

10 stacks

3 stacks

who gives a fuck

[rocky sluice]

😛

damn sin rogue actually feels fun as fuck in raid

been playing a lot of sub

I want to play sin for Zkarn

[gusty mirage]

I want them to delete zskarn

[rocky sluice]

might just start playing sin for the rest of the raid

[gusty mirage]

and just put a box with the loot in there

[balmy condor]

I don’t want to play zskarn in general

[gusty mirage]

you walk up, give bobby $5

[shut owl]

That's why I hate playing sub on sark. I know my guild won't make it there for mythic, but I fear the idea that I might need to play sub for prog again.

[gusty mirage]

and loot whatever you want

[balmy condor]

I’m hoping to be in Germany by the time we get to zskarn

So my guild can do it

And I can mooch it when I get back

[gusty mirage]

I'm perfectly content never killing that boss on mythic

maybe in 12.0

[royal lantern]

where

[spice spire]

Do I need to preemptively call the FBI

[gusty mirage]

for going to germany?

????

what the fuck is the FBI gonna do in germany

they don't have jurisdiction idiot

[spice spire]

For his dad going to Germany

[gusty mirage]

I'm going to call the FBI to arrest you for pretending to be a dog on the internet

how about that

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

Böblingen

[blazing jewel]

it looks very fun and well optimized

[tacit otter]

stop being scary

[royal lantern]

thats like, 1hour away from me

[balmy condor]

My bad bro

[gusty mirage]

You trying to get some whispyr in your life?

[blazing jewel]

is sin the cutest rogue spec

[gusty mirage]

What spec do you play

That’s the cutest

[royal lantern]

small downtimes for little hugs during gameplay

[balmy condor]

Yeh hmu

Can try to set something up

[steel ridge]

Bei stuttgart

[balmy condor]

Yep

[blazing jewel]

okay real talk

anyone else get slightly bricked at the sepsis sound

[blissful forge]

dude

whispyr ist auch deutsch

fml

halb rogue dc is deutsch wtf

[royal lantern]

german parents, born in america

[blissful forge]

little do you know brother little do you know...

german is infiltrated by us gov and secret service

we have less democracy here in germany then a 3rd world country like kenia has

[royal lantern]

[steel ridge]

Hot take

[blissful forge]

another funny thing @gusty mirage is that all the americans that are stationed here in germany are not getting judged by german jurisdiction if the commit crimes or so

its not a hot take

its sadly the truth

[royal lantern]

why is that "sadly" the truth

thats how it works worldwide

[steel ridge]

Military is different

[royal lantern]

thats why embassy's exist lol

[blissful forge]

cause germany is the little whore of usa

like all western countries

[steel ridge]

well newsflash, the USA are the only global super power

[blissful forge]

hahahaha

wait till brics is official

[royal lantern]

yeha mate, take that tinfoil hat thing off and dont bring stuff like that up in spec channels, espacily if you dont know what you are talking about

[blissful forge]

america wouldve already been fucked from ghaddafi and sadam husein if they wouldnt have executed them

not that i study history and politics dude

[steel ridge]

[blissful forge]

so stfu if you dont known shit

lol

[royal lantern]

@balmy condor things are getting heated in the assassination fandom

[blazing jewel]

spec channels are pseudo OT channels but that is a little too OT

[blissful forge]

true

[steel ridge]

That means you are likely between 18-22 years old.

[blissful forge]

21 to be exactly

[balmy condor]

Leider

[blissful forge]

haha

sry for offending you tyran

[steel ridge]

Mit so wenig Lebenserfahrung wäre ich still.

[balmy condor]

Also please don’t do some cringe politics shit in here

I ain’t really in the mood

[blissful forge]

bist du dumm?

[balmy condor]

Also this isn’t how you spell Kenya

Anyway

Keep it on topic

Thanks

[blissful forge]

german spelling

[balmy condor]

:)

[blissful forge]

soz

yeah will do

[steel ridge]

What makes you think i am?

[blazing jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/post-this-cat-with-considerable-gif-25994702

[steel ridge]

I just guessed your age, that already puts me 2 steps ahead of you

[blazing jewel]

why does that thing look like hes older than both of us combined

[royal lantern]

so 9?

[blazing jewel]

[bronze pike]

https://tenor.com/view/post-this-cat-with-considerable-gif-25994702

[balmy condor]

y'akll the homeboys

don'yopu ever fgoet that

forgettt

II love ou

[royal lantern]

drunk whisp?

[balmy condor]

nnnnoo LLLLLL#

:)))**

[keen spruce]

not drunk someone just spilled a white claw on his desk and this is the result of the fumes hitting his nose

[balmy condor]

@soft shale mi aaaamigo por quuuuuuue te guast rottttttten no lloo entiennnndo

[blazing jewel]

no laws when youre drinking claws

[balmy condor]

se sieenot tan mal

explicaamelo

como es possiiiiilble que te geuuste rotren

rotten

[thin scroll]

Glad I checked this channel after waking up briefly

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/que-confusion-what-huh-confused-gif-4708966

[blazing jewel]

tfw drunk whispyr can speak better spanish than me trying to learn it for 4 years

[balmy condor]

miierda jjjjjjuega ttan mal

[keen spruce]

what is worse spanish than that

[blazing jewel]

not knowing spanish at all

[balmy condor]

eees inccrediblllllle que la g-eeeeente lo juegue

[keen spruce]

so speakin russian is just bad spanish

[blazing jewel]

[balmy condor]

mmmi =nmovia es meexicanna

[subtle tundra]

estoy loco

[balmy condor]

pero mi eeeeeeeeeepsanol es malo

[subtle tundra]

paracetamol

[balmy condor]

en relection

[blazing jewel]

google translating that was mildly difficult but pog

[balmy condor]

con ellos

[balmy condor]

noenntiendo

[subtle tundra]

amo los hombres

[balmy condor]

yo tambien mrrrrrrrrr vararsd

hombrees son tan bbbboonitos

[thin scroll]

Donde está la biblioteca rogue changes in 10.1.5

[balmy condor]

taalll zveez 100.2

tttttenemos pacieinencia

paceincea

pacieeeencia

fuuuuuukck it

[oak sky]

Real

[thin scroll]

Damn, that's a century from now at least haha

[shy pecan]

Hi Whispyr

[subtle tundra]

did whispar drink again?

[balmy condor]

hhhhhhelo mist er :3

[oak sky]

Obviously

[subtle tundra]

mad respect

[shy pecan]

:3

[oak sky]

:3c

[balmy condor]

cuuuute dog

[subtle tundra]

everyone should have an alcoholic arc in their life, it opens you up

[balmy condor]

Ii don't lkike opneing iup

I alwywas goot bullieeed foor bbbbeing emmotiional

so now I aaaajust ama a sashole

soo I ffeeeeeel touuugh

yyyyya know

[normal mist]

Whispyr you feelin ok?

[balmy condor]

I caant even stpo it somettttttimeees

maaaaayeb I'm jjjjjstu like that now

unfrotuaaatne

[subtle tundra]

shhhhhhh its part of the process

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/medic-trainer-injury-starship-troopers-clancy-brown-gif-18834406

[balmy condor]

likea I don'tttttttttt evne noicte aosmetimes anymore

Iam just rudeeee

and I dnot teven seeee it

[subtle tundra]

dab me up, im also rude and then i start shaking my ass and people forgive me

[balmy condor]

tttttttttthat scrayyyy

[subtle tundra]

i can shake it well

[cinder grotto]

Does anyone know if Sepsis improved garrote show up correctly on Luxthos? I believe I have the latest version but it just shows up as a regular (non-green) garrote for me.

[balmy condor]

iitishoulf be updatttttttted

onnnnnnne minute

mafke srue you'reaa on 3.1..1..81

jesssssus fuck

[shy pecan]

[balmy condor]

3.l1.1-81

whahtevr

[subtle tundra]

we get it

[cinder grotto]

Ohhh I missed that thanks I have 3.1.0

[subtle tundra]

i wish i was drunk(i was on friday)

[balmy condor]

nnnoproblem mannnn goodluckm

[blazing jewel]

inhale alcohol vapor from a white claw like whisypr

[subtle tundra]

if there was a way to become drunk without drinking i dont think id ever be sober

[blazing jewel]

you actually can inhale alcohol vapors to get drunk but its pretty dangerous

[subtle tundra]

NO. I dont have a problem

[deft flicker]

Same. Feels very sad tbh

[strange python]

someone needs an eep

[deft flicker]

Especially if then it’s paired with overawareness, so every time you’re about to say something there’s this bell of “does me saying I like pineapples sound rude?? No?? But what if it actually does?? How do I make it less rude??”

[oak sky]

Being emotional is for chads 💯

[strange python]

but but but men aren’t supposed to have emotions

we’re supposed to just work and exist or something

[deft flicker]

Too bad some people find it fine to bully for expressing emotions and then bully for being a literal flesh brick

[strange python]

I am John flesh brick

My mission: uh, uhhmm, uhh

[deft flicker]

Like now I’m supposed to feel stuff?? And know how to express that stuff?? And, idk, I’m expected to want things??

[subtle tundra]

i wish i had feelings anymore

[oak sky]

I got my feelings back

[strange python]

Emotions kind of suck sometimes

[oak sky]

Things sucking is human

[subtle tundra]

only person that can get me to get emotions is kevin. y'all dont know kevin though

[oak sky]

Kevin

[strange python]

I know Kevin he works at the circle k down the block

[subtle tundra]

he is in romania rn

[deft flicker]

You never taught me how I’m supposed to communicate with that skull noodle of mine and then proceed to slap me with a fucking C2 noodle language test because that’s what I was supposed to be doing this whole time??

[subtle tundra]

getting drunk with him is an experience

[deft flicker]

Hope it’s a pleasant one

[subtle tundra]

he's a funny lad

[strange python]

what would we do without Kevin

[subtle tundra]

the most gentle 120kg 2m tall person i know

[oak sky]

does kevin FUCK

[strange python]

Perish, I say

[subtle tundra]

fuck his life up? yea

[oak sky]

raw

[balmy condor]

yaallll not allowed to be sad rn dude

[strange python]

I live in America

I’m allowed to be sad

[subtle tundra]

NOT SAD. JUST GLAD I KNOW KEVIN.

[strange python]

born amongst the greatest rednecks you ever did saw

My uncle was a redneck a pure fucking redneck that bitch made me pick up empty beer and soda cans in his back yard in freezing weather

he had a side section in his backyard, along the side of his house absolutely FULL of beer cans like towering piles of them im not even exaggerating

[deft flicker]

Well, guess what, laws don’t work on me and I’ll be dsas whenever my skull noodle tells me to

[balmy condor]

Yoiiuu tallkk hella

[tall atlas]

But really we need more meaningful choice

[strange python]

what kind of choice

[tall atlas]

In the spec tree

[strange python]

oh

[subtle tundra]

yea just gotta figure out what game to play

[strange python]

Assassination is now off topic

[subtle tundra]

has been

for some years

[deft flicker]

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