They mentioned that rogue is getting some huge changes when they announced mage and hpala rework, yet i've never seen anything rogue-related yet. Is it postponed for 10.2 then?
#assassination
true basalt
true basalt
or they're just gonna announce the changes 1 week before 10.2, and all rogue specs will be broken asf and then they'll nerf them to the ground
marble hemlock
But it's very unlikely we'll be seeing any major changes happen with 10.1.5 at this point
thin scroll
guys, bomb dispenser and irideus fragment trigger each others 30s cd?
gaunt moat
Or they might have just have a miscommuincation when they wrote rogue.
gaunt moat
guys, bomb dispenser and irideus fragment trigger each others 30s cd?
bomb dispenser triggers a 5s CD (afaik, might be 10s?)
gaunt moat
yeah kinda annoying. fragmenmt sucks anyways, try farming dice in freehold
shut owl
it popped a 10s cd when I was testing it this morning
at long last I have gotten a second s2 trinket
beacon + wildfire gamer now
thin scroll
yeah kinda annoying. fragmenmt sucks anyways, try farming dice in freehold
dice better? I already have a 437 dice but got irideus 441 in the vault
shut owl
dice probably better. isn't irideus still oversimming?
thin scroll
it popped a 10s cd when I was testing it this morning
would have to remove dispenser from macros haha guess thats a no
shut owl
I don't macro dispenser so I don't have to do anything XD
thin scroll
I only have 2 brain cells, none to spare for trinkets
shut owl
likelihood of me getting a second on-use trinket was greater than the likelihood of me getting a passive... so I just prepped myself for the suffering
I did. I wasn't the one checking for vault options
thin scroll
guess its the trash bin with irideus then
marble ruin
what are people making this week with the spark? I don't need advise one what better just interested to see if people who made slimey are making toxic this week
still leaf
second dagger for me
marble ruin
you made slimey right oxi?
shut owl
I'm trying to achieve negative haste
gaunt moat
Gonna make wrist because it has my alchemical flavor pocket on it.
shut owl
so when cloak steals my haste its even more of a meme
marble ruin
I think I'm going to make the brez bracer, even though it leads to a lot of "look how old riptack is, he can't find you"
marble ruin
if you upgrade brez braces does it keep the socket?
gaunt moat
Crafted items don't keep sockets when upgraded.
marble ruin
gusty mirage
Crafted items don't keep sockets when upgraded.
they should
they did last tier
did they actually make it if you recraft with a new spark you lose the socket?
because that's actually toxic
gaunt moat
yes
gusty mirage
brez bracer comes with with a socket by default no?
they come with a tinker socket by default
dif socket
gaunt moat
ah that's right
gaunt moat
Friend of the Niffen
thin scroll
repair guy in aberrus wants me around
dark crag
You guys smell like assa
subtle stream
Some day this Melandrus ring will sim worse… Today is still not that day.
limber lion
Some day this Melandrus ring will sim worse… Today is still not that day.
What are the other options
My ring was dropped the second I got annulet
spice spire
did they actually make it if you recraft with a new spark you lose the socket?
Yes they did
subtle stream
What are the other options
Mine is socketed, which definitely helps it. The alternates are literally any 424, though, I should run it against unsocketed 437s
dense stirrup
Hey dudes, assassin have a haste cap?
limber lion
Mine is socketed, which definitely helps it. The alternates are literally any 42...
Mine was too
This combo still sims a lot more
gusty mirage
Yes they did
subtle stream
I’m letting my raid team gobble up rings from heroic raid based on their priority stats.
Is that mythic Diurna’s?
somber fractal
feels weird sending crit/mast still when im at 6% haste
spice spire
Top gear 
keen spruce
feels weird sending crit/mast still when im at 6% haste
this covers like half of the page when you click on stat weights
subtle stream
With a socket yes
I think my choices are heroic raid and M+
gaunt moat
socket angle
keen spruce
i've got 444s
gaunt moat
sockets are like 500dps, they're really good
keen spruce
woeful meteor
Still feels bad picking them
gaunt moat
it does, but logically, they're better than most gear
@keen spruce also check what i tagged you in an hour ago. the reasoning for how i use vanish
limber lion
I'll take those gloves off of you
ty
I have 8k dps waiting for me, just need one more tier piece.
keen spruce
<@119274470241206273> also check what i tagged you in an hour ago. the reasoning...
ye i saw 
vestal wren
I have 8k dps waiting for me, just need one more tier piece.
good luck
gaunt moat
if it weren't for execute, it would be a wash. but with execute, it's way better to have vanish for 3rd DM
winter gale
Whats bis 4set combo?
strange python
Whats bis 4set combo?
No chest.
winter gale
Great, I have 447 head to recraft into tier so I can use Zaqali chest
keen spruce
droptimizer thinks that crafting legs over my crit/mast tier is as good as switching to toxic boots
gilded burrow
when should i be using fragment?
gaunt moat
how much of a dps gain are toxic comapred to slimy for you
gaunt moat
when should i be using fragment?
when you're not playing sin.
but otherwise, with DM.
keen spruce
~4-500
spice spire
when should i be using fragment?
Overlaps with dm
gusty mirage
droptimizer thinks that crafting legs over my crit/mast tier is as good as switc...
do you have 5 tier pieces equipped?
gilded burrow
when you're not playing sin.
but otherwise, with DM.
but i like sin 
gusty mirage
then off to freehold jail you go
gaunt moat
so get a better trinket 
gusty mirage
I've done 15 freeholds and seen the ring drop like 10 times
you too?
I've seen dice once
and it dropped for me with speed
limber lion
I'm so tired of this shit
gilded burrow
is the dice better than fragment?
spice spire
Yes
limber lion
and it dropped for me with speed
spice spire
Check pins
spice spire
I'm so tired of this shit
Bruh. 3-4 weeks of that
strange niche
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earnest remnant
think ive seen dice drop 6-7 times
gusty mirage
At least the 424 guzzler is insane-o
p sure I vendored mine
woeful meteor
p sure I vendored mine
The Guzzler went to the bank chillinh next to my sylv dagger
limber lion
I mean I've done the raid on lfr, normal and heroic 3 times now
and still haven't seen any tier or trinkets
keen spruce
do you have 5 tier pieces equipped?
gusty mirage
<a:nodders:946562715126734898>
well... yeah
6 ilvl to pants is a lot of primary stat
spice spire
I mean I've done the raid on lfr, normal and heroic 3 times now
We’ve ran raid on N+H weekly. And we’ve seen 2 bomb dispensers. Both of which are normal, both of which I was tanking the fight instead of rogueing
limber lion
We’ve ran raid on N+H weekly. And we’ve seen 2 bomb dispensers. Both of which ar...
Ouch
spice spire
Also none from vaults 
gusty mirage
more just weird that it likes that slot so much more
you have 80 million mastery
spice spire
At least doz got one of them
gusty mirage
how is that remotely weird
helm & shoulders have haste
pants are crit mastery
you have 800 billion mastery
strange niche
tried out assassination last week and really enjoyed it, was wondering why my dmg seemed slightly off. Didn't macro bomb disp to anything and didn't have a keybind just for the trinket
gusty mirage
????
spice spire
tried out assassination last week and really enjoyed it, was wondering why my dm...
That’ll do it
gusty mirage
but chest is big versa
your mastery is probably more DR'd than the dominican republic
spice spire
Bruh
keen spruce
your mastery is probably more DR'd than the dominican republic
u rite
ye socket big
but i have to put it on my 447 belt that I crafted like a dum dum
gusty mirage
I mean
keen spruce
although we're not killin sark for a long time
keen spruce
I expect to have all of the 450
gusty mirage
did you kill rashok yet
gusty mirage
subtle tundra
improbable
it would require atleast 7000 weeks
which would be more than 134 years
keen spruce
it still wants me to socket crit/mast 
strange niche
I have broken 120k, I feel succesful
flat kiln
What do i need to put in bomb disp macro to make it not spam the "not ready yet" voice line
keen spruce
turn off error speech
woeful meteor
remove it from the macro and just make a keybind for it 😄
fervent scroll
What do i need to put in bomb disp macro to make it not spam the "not ready yet"...
yoooo how do u play with error speech
flat kiln
remove it from the macro and just make a keybind for it 😄
I'm trying to be a bomb disp macro enjoyer while i'm 1 on use lol
never noticed error speech before but i'll turn it off ty
gusty mirage
I'm trying to be a bomb disp macro enjoyer while i'm 1 on use lol
don't listen to tamaran
who tf puts a trinket that has a random CD because of crits on a separate bind
actual madness
spice surge
There are those very rare times where using a bomb would delay your beacon by a bit where you wouldnt want it macroed
gusty mirage
just beacon on CD
stop whatever you're doing
mid DM?
fuck it
I will not succumb to the european efficiency disease
flat kiln
before i got it i thought i would be sweaty and separate keybind to time with damage amps but i cba
spice surge
But i solved that by binding a regular non-macroed eviscerate to an ultra scuffed bind so i can eviscerate before without proccing the bomba
gusty mirage
But i solved that by binding a regular non-macroed eviscerate to an ultra scuffe...
fair
spice surge
For that once per 5 fights where that happens
gusty mirage
before i got it i thought i would be sweaty and separate keybind to time with da...
yeah man fuck that, that's too much shit to keep track of
I tried the bomb on a 2nd bind thing
and forgot to cast it
for 2 minutes
spice surge
But theres also a lot of fights where itdoesnt matter if you delay beacon by 10s anyway
Like on rashok for example, the fight is at most 6:30 so theres no way to get more than 3 casts of beacon anyway
gusty mirage
for assassination at least
beacon + bomb works out comfy w/ the rotation if you beacon first
spice surge
Imagine having to worry about wanting the beacon to hit during 4p if they didnt change it 
(i know it simmed worse, but still)
keen spruce
and forgot to cast it
have i got a WA for u
never overlap your bomb and bacon again
i could add a sound for u
cinder bone
only one other person sharing tier token with me this raid and ive rolled an 18 and a 4 so far
tall atlas
BACON BOMB
quasi steeple
is it really worth to change the flaring cowl + eranog's ring combo for the toxified + boots?
gusty mirage
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/p2yMqbJ3ZZnXxRwda2yr4x @vestal wren I can't make the annulet go away
gaunt moat
HONESTLY, if it's like 200dps?
maybe worth dropping it.
it's RNG fiesta.
In sims it averages at around 3.5m damage usually.
but in practice its often less than 3m
vestal wren
reality is fairly close to the sim
its surprising rly
you would expect more extremes in logs
gaunt moat
my reality would like to have a talk with yours 
gusty mirage
HONESTLY, if it's like 200dps?
maybe worth dropping it.
it's RNG fiesta.
In sims...
vestal wren
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/p2yMqbJ3ZZnXxRwda2yr4x <@1948044077061898...
see its easy
spice spire
HONESTLY, if it's like 200dps?
maybe worth dropping it.
it's RNG fiesta.
In sims...
Annulet also provides extra hps though 
vestal wren
i just needed to change the item level of rings to 460
gusty mirage
i just needed to change the item level of rings to 460
spice spire
I was in a key where the healer wasn’t doing too hot and I had to swap my 441 ring to my annulet
vestal wren
probably does not need 460
quasi steeple
sigh idk what to do
vestal wren
given that its ahead by 0.4%
quasi steeple
I'm still rocking the flaring + ring combo
spice spire
Yeah I have a 447 with socket and 441 ring and that was enough
gusty mirage
460 w/ a socket uldaman ring is within margin of annulet
quasi steeple
got in vault the tier head with socket, was thinking about crafting either chest or wrist with the toxified and the boots (have decent rings rn) but not so sure about that
gusty mirage
realistically I craft an OH dagger
because it's the most damage
but like we're on sark rn
what if he drops a dagger
thorn isle
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gusty mirage
we will find a way out of this prison @spice spire @vestal wren
spice spire
I believe
gusty mirage
over slimeys?
correct
vestal wren
quasi steeple
Toxic boots or slimy boots?
misty holly
They are close enough I think it depends on which ones sim you trust more
gusty mirage
Toxic boots or slimy boots?
if you don't have one crafted
you make toxic
if you already have slimey, you only make toxic if you literally have nothign else to craft
quasi steeple
I just have the flaring cowl rn, so, no, dont have any of the boots
gusty mirage
I just have the flaring cowl rn, so, no, dont have any of the boots
ye you're safe to just craft toxic boots right away then
misty holly
We figured out, though, that if you don't activate slice and dice or crimson vial and have no leech gear then you can avoid the toxic proccing heal thorns, which makes it much better than slimy in that situation
bleak dove
gusty mirage
assuming you're only playing assassination
if you're going to play sub you'd just make slimey
quasi steeple
With the toxified patch?
gusty mirage
yeppers
quasi steeple
Assa only, is assa or quitting, no option haha
gusty mirage
then yeah full send toxic thorns
spice spire
Soon 
west swallow
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wide ridge
holy
somber sparrow
so going to sim it, but if i already have heroic beacon and a dragonfire bomb dispenser... would you take the class trinket (next patch goes on mythic path to upgrade to 3/3) or the heroic onyx birthright ring? Initial thoughts? But yeah going to sim now
wide ridge
prolly trinket cause you can always craft a ring i guess
sucks that the trinket breaks stealth
blizzard is big dummy
gusty mirage
trinket also giga rare
ring not so much
- you have valiable alternatives you can farm from m+
and upgrade to 441
somber sparrow
yeah initial thoughts that makes the most sense
the rarity alone makes it worth taking
cerulean nest
slimy to toxic is like 750dps increase for me
best craft by a lot
i am lacking a lot of haste rn though since switching from sub
misty holly
Is Toxic still bugged in sims, though?
somber sparrow
Is Toxic still bugged in sims, though?
believe they fixed it in sims a while ago
vestal wren
^ they sim correct
well, the one thing the sim does not consider is you using vial to heal yourself
spice spire
Yes and no.
It’s fixed for the most part, you might occasionally munch but all of our local stuff is taken into account.
Yeah
Leech and recup taken into account tho which was the big initial qualms with it
vestal wren
so overall, they should be good enough to consider it accurate
gilded burrow
what’s the name of one of the pieces from the tier set? trying to sim at work lol
gusty mirage
lurking specter's x
so pants would be
lurking specter's tights
gloves would be handgrips
clever sapphire
well, the one thing the sim does not consider is you using vial to heal yourself
Got it, taking vial off my bar. Not pressing it anymore for more accurate sim
gilded burrow
tyty
quasi steeple
The toxified patch, better on wrist or chest? Or whatever i can afford? haha
vestal wren
The toxified patch, better on wrist or chest? Or whatever i can afford? haha
probably best on wrist or belt
chest or head are good for crafting because they have high stats
vestal wren
but chest is only good on assassination, both sub/outlaw would want head over it
so if you ever want to dive into a other spec and do it on chest you can end up losing dps
also bracers/chest sim within about the same area of output
quasi steeple
gotcha
vestal wren
possible that chest ends up slightly better if you sim with corrupting
quasi steeple
u guys rock
gusty mirage
no u
misty holly
Speaking of rocks, has anyone tested Drogbar Rocks out? I saw a video yesterday that said it was a way underrated trinket.
spice spire
Speaking of rocks, has anyone tested Drogbar Rocks out? I saw a video yesterday...
It’s worse than 415 PB
spice spire
I tested early
brazen zodiac
wat u get in ur vault oxi ;o
spice spire
Unless stealth changes happen, seems doubtful
gusty mirage
wat u get in ur vault oxi ;o
socket 
gusty mirage
no u XINFINITY.
whispyr's mortal enemy
brazen zodiac
isn't that an internet company
gusty mirage
I got a 447 crit vers neck
so I took socket
lol
everything else was hot ass garbagio
brazen zodiac
i got the 447 red pend neck thingy pog
actually 2 weeks ago i got the bis m+ ring, then the bis m+ neck, this week i got becon + 447 tier gloves so
gusty mirage
brazen zodiac
eventually i'll run a sim 💃
gusty mirage
WE"RE ALMOST DONE
brazen zodiac
surely by next season it'll be done
deft flicker
WOOAAAOH SQUIDWARD ON A CHAIR
gusty mirage
I have
spice spire
Wait
gusty mirage
spice spire
What else do you have
spice spire
Toss the dice in
gusty mirage
we covered that one already
spice spire
With rings?
gusty mirage
yes
spice spire
austere fulcrum
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kNHwxxvFHLXHAfN5mzrrWB
How come u sim 108 with 444 ilvl or am ı missing smt
gusty mirage
ye it was without raid buffs
vestal wren
give me a sec, thats easy to fix
austere fulcrum
Okay
spice spire
I am making this my mission
gusty mirage
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6toJDumRcGCAjHz4hV4GJE @vestal wren @spice spire
I'm out of ideas
slim pebble
What are you attempting to do
gusty mirage
replace annulet
keen spruce
y does yours have such a hardone for annulet
gusty mirage
oxi we have almost the same gear
brother
do not say we have almost the same gear
you're at like 70% mastery
brazen zodiac
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6toJDumRcGCAjHz4hV4GJE <@1948044077061898...
;o
u sim for lots :O
gusty mirage
that's the cheating sim
keen spruce
60
gusty mirage
with corrupting rage
brazen zodiac
i should learn how to play with sepsis so im not seeing at 115k at 443 ilvl 💃
the cheating sim? :o
gusty mirage
this is how we deal with people using corrupting rage on prog:
OKAY
@spice spire WE MADE IT HAPPEN
160dps when taking into account margin
deft flicker
Wdym illegal, you reduce healer’s overheal numbers
gusty mirage
Wdym illegal, you reduce healer’s overheal numbers
if play phial on magmorax
or nelth
or sark
you will 100% die
not nelth as a rogue
but on sark you will die if it procs during p1 at all
gusty mirage
if you're playing corrupting rage on sark prog
brazen zodiac
that sounds omega troll
gusty mirage
you're actually throwing
brazen zodiac
like game griefing
grim tangle
then I guess 6 of us are throwing
keen spruce
we've got like 6 people runnin rage on rashock
gusty mirage
so you do you ig
keen spruce
seems ok for now
gusty mirage
at a certain point in p1 sark your raid's taking close to 2 million DPS
"get better healers lul"
I'm sure that 600 dps you're getting by running corrupting rage is worth making your healers' lives miserable
grim tangle
have you tried feinting though
grim tangle
if you say so
gusty mirage
you're assuming everyone is an alchemist?
that's a very weird assumption
so you think every single person running corrupting rage
is an alchemist?
lol
I mean people keep professions for a lot of reasons
some people have been playing the game for more than 2 years an have unobtainable recipes
I can drop 1 to use a phial that's 600 more dps for me
makes sense
not really
spice spire
brazen zodiac
all the professions make gold if you grind them lol.
gusty mirage
no, it really doesn't
spice spire
Or keeping the unobtainable recipes
gusty mirage
your entire premise is based on assumptions
spice spire
It’s the opposite actually?
He’s providing reasons why not
You could also be the guild’s only inscription
spice spire
Or guild’s only x
gusty mirage
"you're assuming only decent players has unobtainable recipes"
some
do you need the fucking definition for the word some?
or do you just wander in here to be contrarian all the time
deft flicker
do you need the fucking definition for the word some?
Yes please
brazen zodiac
wait oxi arent u a lawyer? :o
gusty mirage
Perfect, that's all I needed to read
deft flicker
wait oxi arent u a lawyer? :o
That’s the whole point
spice spire
Eh whatever
gusty mirage
The hilarious thing is, you wander in here to be a contrarian pretty much all the time. You take a hardline approach, when counteracted with a statement that says "SOME" you assume that my statement was based on EVERYONE not having alchemy
spice spire
!mute @marsh forge 24h please read the rules while you’re in timeout. Have a great day!
keen spruce
did it work 
proper tapir
How far we've come, from arguing about exsang to, now, professions for dps gains.
umbral rapids
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gusty mirage
How far we've come, from arguing about exsang to, now, professions for dps gains...
what's funny is he accused me of not being able to read
shrewd night
keen spruce
phail doesn't tick for 11k
gusty mirage
me and quake are the same person apparently
keen spruce
brazen zodiac
lol
vestal wren
i see the timeout icons now too, thats nice
proper tapir
then DM'd me saying I muted him
You're not even the same species, quake is a dog named George
ember mural
gusty mirage
I was enjoying the back and forth
the bravado where all the things he accused me of, he was doing himself
deft flicker
So real
gusty mirage
"people keep professions for a lot of reasons"
brazen zodiac
law is complicated for me :C had to retake my funeral law class twice
keen spruce
i mean the gaps in logic about leech/snd healing offsetting rage is also kind of silly
gusty mirage
"keeping 500/g hr prof lulz"
brazen zodiac
u must be big brain C:
keen spruce
cuz like... that leech and recoup healing was already doing its job
gusty mirage
phail doesn't tick for 11k
are you an alchemist
gusty mirage
wild
keen spruce
with 30/30 decay
vestal wren
i woul go alchemy / engineering
gusty mirage
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bcLy41Mg4vZC2nNy4awfdc
so a crafted ring + another 447/450 is my way out of prison
vestal wren
but i have enchanting with a lot of recipies
gusty mirage
yep
I've had LWing/Engi since classic and have unobtainable recipes
lemme toss that to save some gold and get some "free 600 dps"
deft flicker
I've had LWing/Engi since classic and have unobtainable recipes
That sounds lit
brazen zodiac
I've had LWing/Engi since classic and have unobtainable recipes
yeah that's why it was kind of lame to have to swap professions for mettle if u needed to do that lol
lots of people weren't able to take advantage of selling mettle for certain profs because why would u wanna lose such cool unobtainable recipes lol
deft flicker
Speaking of, what kind of unobtainable recipes do you have??
grim tangle
I run corrupting rage without alchemy btw
gusty mirage
one of them (until recently) was the onyxia scale cloak
deft flicker
Just curious as I started rather late
sour citrus
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spice spire
I run corrupting rage without alchemy btw
Some people simply built diffly
brazen zodiac
one of them (until recently) was the onyxia scale cloak
it was hard to get originally?
keen spruce
I run corrupting rage without alchemy btw
show me log of a high damage taken fight
I wanna see somethin
gusty mirage
it was hard to get originally?
it was a quest
you got it after killing onyxia the first time and turning in the head
slim pebble
I used to love sin but haven't played it since castle Nath. Does losing exsang make the rotation more manageable?
brazen zodiac
ah i see,
gusty mirage
I used to love sin but haven't played it since castle Nath. Does losing exsang m...
yeah, makes it significantly less miserable
brazen zodiac
my friend made a good amount of gold selling those at the start of the patch for the chest lol
did u take advantage of that? ;o
gusty mirage
as did I 😛
brazen zodiac
i was too lazy to go do it, in between spamming trade chat ;p
gusty mirage
worked out perfectly because I have an alt guild for storage and I had a lot of the mats just sitting in the bank
keen spruce
gusty mirage
and I came back to a52 before 10.1
brazen zodiac
that's awesome
misty holly
Speaking of rocks, has anyone tested Drogbar Rocks out? I saw a video yesterday...
Just ran through all of lfr with the rocks. 3.7% of my damage on the low end, 6.5% was the highest (on echo of Neltharian). That seems decent, but maybe not competing with the bis trinkets. Seems like blood mallet has it listed a bit low.
brazen zodiac
oo right ur on area52
lemme craft all ur shit >:)
get certified Badbttch on ur cute gear 💃
spice spire
Inmem is the a52 cartel 
brazen zodiac
im so burnt out from it i just recraft their shit till it procs now with my own mettle and stuff
everyone gets they shit back rank 5 now
out of mettle by thursday. just as god intended.
deft flicker
LWork + Engi sounds like a nice profession combo, but lack of gathering prof scares me a bit
gusty mirage
Just ran through all of lfr with the rocks. 3.7% of my damage on the low end, 6...
ye they're a solid starter trinket, just nowhere near as good as bomb/dice/beacon
keen spruce
out of mettle by thursday. just as god intended.
I wish i could tip crafterse in mettle
brazen zodiac
it'd be cool if they made a new gathering prof
keen spruce
I have like 6k
brazen zodiac
i'd sell my left thumb for mettle
i look at my alt, 3k mettle, i look at my main, 4/5 mettle 💃
also the gathering profs...aren't awful u just need those perception phials/finese if ur herb and just grind lol
keen spruce
i don't even know why i have herb
slim pebble
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Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev
keen spruce
if by open world u mean the zaralek salt mines
slim pebble
yeah, makes it significantly less miserable
Can I make sub gear work
keen spruce
brazen zodiac
yes...............>.<
gusty mirage
Can I make sub gear work
yeppers, won't be the most ideal but it'll work just fine
earnest remnant
you can make it work just fine playing assa in sub gear
brazen zodiac
if by open world u mean the zaralek salt mines
the worst is when the good nodes right next to all the elite mobs in the new dharajin area :c
gaunt moat
I'm extremly versatility pilled as sin, works fine.
earnest remnant
mind you only HC cuz i was testing out assa for the first time
keen spruce
we've got 3 sark cloaks munching all of my vers
slim pebble
Alright. Thank you guys.
earnest remnant
but its just fine with crit vers gear
eager sorrel
I already have BIS sin trinkets 😅
So beacon/bomb like every spec?
slim pebble
Well the spreadsheet says fragment+bomb
I don't have beacon yet
I've lost everyone I've seen and vault luck is atrocious
eager sorrel
Check pins :)
keen spruce
balmy condor
Come help me
spice spire
???
keen spruce
marble hemlock
Come help me
I only push my tongue down peoples throat if they killed Echo, sorry.
hollow helm
!whispyr
prisma monolithBOT
Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev
silk bane
Got mah first technical interview today. Soon I'll infiltrate he system so I can personally get us buffed. Trustge. I'm working on it.
gaunt moat
Good luck 🙂
brazen zodiac
good luck soldier
silk bane
cerulean nest
Got mah first technical interview today. Soon I'll infiltrate he system so I can...
immediately breaking confidentiality policy with the photo
lmao grats king
storm belfry
Got mah first technical interview today. Soon I'll infiltrate he system so I can...
You got this homie
runic hinge
Got mah first technical interview today. Soon I'll infiltrate he system so I can...
Bless up
brazen zodiac
x.x
gaunt moat
You didn't need that anyways
spice spire
Skill issue tbh
half dawn
so, is the Fragment actually BIS for us or is that a bait?
half dawn
Damn thats a HUUUGE oversim
cerulean nest
for fights where we dont lust on pull, you still potting on pull?
since lust wont line up with DM
keen spruce
You didn't need that anyways <:starege:923197272064426075>
1000 dps slippin through my fingers
keen spruce
for fights where we dont lust on pull, you still potting on pull?
if you'll lose a pot usage by delaying
probably just use it on pull
otherwise save it for first dm
i'm assumin you're talking about experiemnts?
keen spruce
oh
i mean those are short fights
experiments you probably won't get use out of full 2 pots
unless you're letting orbs hit
probbaly just save for DM
lusting amalg and not swapping
is bis tho
spice spire
Gotta blast
cerulean nest
probbaly just save for DM
for the 2min DM you mean?
pure ether
Hi all, new to posting here. From what I've read I thought I'd be keeping my mythic Eranog ring longer but sim says a 431 ring is better. Did I do something wrong when running my sim or is it time to move on? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/imdf6dZvbsT8LgSkgRAGCC
spice spire
Hi all, new to posting here. From what I've read I thought I'd be keeping my myt...
Time to move on
storm belfry
Have you made the healer transition mister cyon?
My Druid is now equal level to rogue
But I know I am not allowed to swap
spice spire
storm belfry
But I have made it clear next tier I go back
storm belfry
I still enjoy rogue but you know. Healing is my drug
keen spruce
cuz that's when you're lusting right?
spice spire
I am cursed with some bad trinkets for now
storm belfry
What makes it even funnier is that my Druid has rashoks and scale @spice spire and only one of our main healers has both
spice spire
After that we’re chuckling
storm belfry
And to top it off. I got a 2nd rashoks from weekly quest last week
spice spire
What makes it even funnier is that my Druid has rashoks and scale <@226508540746...
Rashoks doesn’t drop
storm belfry
That I vendored
spice spire
I refuse to believe it
cerulean nest
cuz that's when you're lusting right?
yeah like a little after 1 min
storm belfry
First heroic vault on Druid
keen spruce
yeah like a little after 1 min
i'd just pot on that one
storm belfry
My healers were so mad
keen spruce
since you're only getting one
storm belfry
Lmao
cerulean nest
fsho
pure ether
Time to move on <a:SoCute:1021164936929484820>
keen spruce
if it turns out the fight is long enough for 2
then maybe consider rippin one on pull with sepsis ig
or if it REALLY long enough
you can maybe get 2 anyways
using one at DM
balmy condor
https://tenor.com/view/aladdin-genie-im-free-freedom-free-at-last-gif-18572302
Now you gotta be free of the annulet too
Good luck with that one
I can’t shake it
spice spire
I’ve shaken it master whispyr
storm belfry
Now you gotta be free of the annulet too
Hope you have been sleeping as well as you can mr whispyr
gilded oasis
!fuu
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wise spear
is fragment still oversiming?
limber lion
Yuh
verbal lark
hi how is asssassination rn
proper tapir
hi how is asssassination rn
It's our favorite spec
spice spire
Fine
plush light
anyone say where we want our haste?
blissful forge
sim gives you the answer G
frozen jasper
All this Time i thought dice was an active trinket lol
Completely fucked my opener cause i tried pressing it over and over
verbal lark
sim gives you the answer G
why is WoW so reliant on sim
how come other games dont have this issue
keen spruce
it's not
frozen jasper
Just got it though, its Not like ive been trying for 2 weeks haha
limber lion
anyone say where we want our haste?
Anywhere between 0 and 1000 %
keen spruce
just build crit mast and you'll do fine
limber lion
Actually, add a zero there
verbal lark
lol
keen spruce
yeah i mean you're asking what is BEST
verbal lark
ngl i havent remembered a single answer that wasnt sim when i ask about gear
keen spruce
not what is playable
blissful forge
Anywhere between 0 and 1000 %
plush light
just trying to figure out a baseline for the swap from sub
keen spruce
the answer is "do whatever the hell you want"
limber lion
just trying to figure out a baseline for the swap from sub
There is no such a thing
keen spruce
if you jsut want what's playable
plush light
dont think my current 3% is gonna cut it
keen spruce
dont think my current 3% is gonna cut it
it will
slim pebble
I'm about to try it with 1%.
limber lion
Just press this button, that's all you need to do
verbal lark
yeah i mean you're asking what is BEST
thats what i mean tho, why cant we ever get an answer for best without sim
limber lion
Literally don't need to look at stats or anything
verbal lark
other games dont have that issue
limber lion
Same weapons, same trinkets, same tier, same everything
keen spruce
thats what i mean tho, why cant we ever get an answer for best without sim
becasue the best depends entirely on what other gear you're wearing, what enchants you have, what gems
limber lion
super ideal stats might get you a tiny amount of extra dps but nothing crazy
keen spruce
what's best for you right now is different than what's best for me
blissful forge
thats what i mean tho, why cant we ever get an answer for best without sim
because this aint boomer classic G, ppl wanna min/max the shit out of their char
verbal lark
hmm i see
blissful forge
thats why we use sim
slim pebble
I really need to set my second monitor back up because having the rotation up while I'm playing would be helpful. It's changed while a bit since I played it last
keen spruce
but like... we're simming for like 100-200dps gains sometimes. for 99% of people it really doesn't matter
blissful forge
I really need to set my second monitor back up because having the rotation up wh...
you can actually make a note
verbal lark
but like... we're simming for like 100-200dps gains sometimes. for 99% of people...
wait what 100-200?
blissful forge
in method raid tools
keen spruce
just take the highest ilvl stuff, avoid vers generally and everything is a-okay
verbal lark
lol
slim pebble
in method raid tools
True
verbal lark
100-200 dps is rly meh
keen spruce
verbal lark
thats kinda crazy
slim pebble
I'm sitting at 15% vers in my sub raid gear
keen spruce
that's normally the numbers we're talkin about
slim pebble
pretty sure every dps spec avoids that one
Not true
keen spruce
some dps like vers for a variety of reasons
verbal lark
lol
keen spruce
slim pebble
Imagine having beacon
verbal lark
can you craft voice of the silent star
slim pebble
That's sark drop
verbal lark
ripp
keen spruce
tbh
slim pebble
I got it week 1 somehow
verbal lark
rngg
keen spruce
i wish some of our raiders would take it off on rashock prog
they're stealing like 500 vers from me
and losting 26k hp
losing*
verbal lark
only drops on sarky poo
and then everyone rolls on it
keen spruce
and dying
verbal lark
lmao
slim pebble
If I take off Sark cloak I hit 0% haste
limber lion
Our boys got 2 daggers, cloak and the leather belt from Mythic Sark today
verbal lark
tragic
limber lion
4 rogue bis items
limber lion
he only got the daggers though, would be a bit too much for a trial to yoink them all
lol
slim pebble
Our boys got 2 daggers, cloak and the leather belt from Mythic Sark today
My raid team does heroic and dabbles in mythic I think we got 5/8 last tier. Both Heroic sark kills we has dropped 2 of the plate bracers
spice spire
he only got the daggers though, would be a bit too much for a trial to yoink the...
Doctor herbo PHD?
limber lion
Doctor herbo PHD?
That's the one
spice spire
God he’s so big wtf
slim pebble
We haven't seen heroic beacon or cloak yet
keen spruce
is he cuter than me 
limber lion
don't know if cute is the word I'd use for him
verbal lark
is Voice of a silent star that good
limber lion
he's just like me. a finnish lad who chugs energy drinks and plays vidya games all day long
verbal lark
or is it overrated
keen spruce
is his damage cuter than mine 
spice spire
is his damage cuter than mine <a:bonk_frog:914965812899639296>
Yes
keen spruce
o are you EU
verbal lark
lol it steals ur allies secondary stats
limber lion
is Voice of a silent star that good
"that good" is subjective. But yes, the mythic one is best in slot
spice spire
Yeah Cev is a Finnish lad
limber lion
it's not super duper giga better than anything else
but it's the best item in the game
limber lion
Or rather, best cloak
austere fulcrum
you got a trial on mythic sark
This xd
limber lion
True
spice spire
They also killed mythic sark a couple of weeks ago
limber lion
We were both in Korruptio previously and now both in Nocco
verbal lark
I heard Zskarn is more overtuned than Sark
spice spire
verbal lark
is that true
spice spire
I expect nothing less than perfection from doc herbo
royal lantern
lol it steals ur allies secondary stats
mate
people "lose" less then 1% of their WORST secondary
meanwhile the guy with the cloak gains almost 2k of his BEST secondary on the proc
lol
keen spruce
very worth proc for raid
feels bad to have 4 proc on you when you dn't have one
munches half of my vers phial
2/3rds
strange python
Just run crit phial
keen spruce
Just run crit phial
then it takes 1/3rd of my remaining vers
keen spruce
nah globe is ass
keen spruce
and annoying to play with
verbal lark
I see
is there a level requirement for your char to get catalyst charges
since theyre passively gainedn ow
is it level 70
shadow quiver
Heroic bomb dispenser in the vault! Now I have heroic beacon and bomb dispenser. Big pawg
limber lion
Dank
limber lion
is there a level requirement for your char to get catalyst charges
I mean the gear itself is for level 70 so even if you had charges prior to 70, you couldn't use the gear
eager solstice
how can you sim with a different rune?
gaunt moat
balmy condor
how can you sim with a different rune?
easiest would be to just run two sims and change the setting notter pointed out
eager solstice
easiest would be to just run two sims and change the setting notter pointed out
thanks friend you guys down nelth last night?
balmy condor
nop
gaunt moat
ah right, your loaded die is like 447 right?
gaunt moat
yeah, that's not going anywhere soon
just saw liquid doing echo
they had like at least 10 people above 130k. insane.
subtle stream
Can you manually add gear to sim that’s not in your bags? Askmrrobot is in a weird place
balmy condor
gear compare
or you add it to the bottom of your simc like other bag gear
Askmrrobot is in a weird place cause it's trash btw
has been for years
subtle stream
Aye
balmy condor
Can you manually add gear to sim that’s not in your bags? Askmrrobot is in a wei...
what are you trying to sim out of curiosity?
subtle stream
I haven’t seen my vault yet, so nothing. But, just knowing how is going to be very helpful.
subtle stream
Aye.
Looking at rings. But I think I found the top 3 pretty easily
From Rashok, VP, and NL
balmy condor
think I'm crafting a ring today
subtle stream
Might be in the same boat, need to grind out crests tho b/c that’s the life. Won’t win out for me w/o enchanted Wyrm crest upgrade probably.
gusty mirage
Might be in the same boat, need to grind out crests tho b/c that’s the life. Won...
I believe in you, I just need you to believe in you
subtle stream
Figure it’s just a matter of time with more m+ runs
balmy condor
I think I might have to actually get more aspect crafts for the spark in 2 weeks
a tragic turn of events
balmy condor
isn't that the opposite
gusty mirage
a tragic turn of events
true, 4 keys however will you recover from this financial set back
runic hinge
Thinking about paying some boosters for keys this week so I don’t have to run with my stupid friends. I’ll just buy some
gusty mirage
Thinking about paying some boosters for keys this week so I don’t have to run wi...
me on my alt
lmao
runic hinge
Maybe the boosters will be like hey this guys pretty good let’s be friends with him and not make him pay. 
storm forum
Ur stupid friends
runic hinge
Lmao we haven’t done keys together
storm forum
Rip
gusty mirage
Lmao we haven’t done keys together
yet
runic hinge
You’re playing priest now tho? Carry me this week
storm forum
Ok
gusty mirage
I'll carry you dw
storm forum
I'll grief ur key
gusty mirage
just let me hit 2k rating so I can get 4pc first
@spice spire can attest, oxipal is indeed a gamer
spice spire
True
gusty mirage
tanked a 17 VP like a champ at 420 ilvl
spice spire
Lanille is also a gamer tho 
spice spire
I am disappointed that pfp has changed tho
runic hinge
that's why lanille is carrying me
Carrying all of us*
storm forum
Sry the disc priest server is like a freaking cult
They just make fun of you or ignore you if you try to talk in there without discat
Also discat is the goat
spice spire
storm forum
Just look at the little bud
spice spire
I actually ran with a disc priest that fucked with the lights on
Maybe it’s not so bad
storm forum
Wtf does that even mean
storm forum
Ur right mb
The correct response was damn were you watching me fuck ur mom last night?
gusty mirage
The correct response was damn were you watching me fuck ur mom last night?
His dad*
Leave mama quake out of this
storm forum
Damn everyone was watching huh
spice spire
The correct response was damn were you watching me fuck ur mom last night?
Nah I was too busy giving ur pops back shots
verbal lark
how do we get our passive charge catalyst?
ember mural
It’s provocative
Who was in Paris though
gusty mirage
Who was in Paris though
Fellas
spice spire
(The fellas)
gusty mirage
I’ll be here all week
sweet dawn
Who was in Paris though
Buddies
verbal lark
The quest giver is by the fountain in valdrakken. Iirc
Ok thanks
clever sapphire
I found the weirdest assa rogue today. Playing raszageth S1 assa build with exsang SBS and fan of knives talent of which name i forgor
it was sad but i had to tell him that fragment is oversimming
main vessel
I’ll be here all week
I enjoy when oxi is here all week
spice spire
I enjoy when you’re here
main vessel
I enjoy when you’re here
main vessel
Who was in Paris though
Presumably Parisians
storm forum
No, they had to evacuate
gaunt moat
@gusty mirage Sepsis "infects targets blood", doesn't poison it.
that's how the man keeps us down.
verbal lark
Which rogue spec do u guys recommend
balmy condor
first time?
balmy condor
Which rogue spec do u guys recommend
sub typically the go to atm