assassination

[vestal wren]

will kill it soon

[gaunt moat]

It's actually the lowest wipe % I've ever had ever in wow.
litteraly 1 hit from kill.

[distant helm]

i had a 8k sennarth wipe last tier

better not check who didnt pot

[gentle gyro]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ue2K3sHeDUj7LzFMtJfsiS
does fragment still oversim?

NL Trinket it is then

[tall atlas]

!beacon

when is the best time to bacon atm

i cant seem to find a nice spot for it

[dusk shoal]

I just send it fr

[tall atlas]

but on like the opener

do i just do it after you think

[dusk shoal]

I'd prob do it first

[woeful meteor]

Beacon -> Vanish -> Gar -> Rest of Opener dont tell whispyr about it tho

[balmy condor]

It’s just worse

What do you want

[woeful meteor]

It feels good tho 😄

What is the timing then just at 10 sec

or after mark

[balmy condor]

On like 90% of fights you would want to vanish to extend

You get gar snd rup up

And then beacon -> continue

It’s the same as puzzle box

[tall atlas]

ugh

that felt so bar

[woeful meteor]

so gar -> snd -> ER -> Rup -> Beacon -> Sepsis ->...

[tall atlas]

bad

[balmy condor]

Yep

[gentle gyro]

that's what my quick sim also tells me. I trust the robot.

[balmy condor]

Shouldn’t trust robots for openers

[gentle gyro]

It has more hands than me.

[balmy condor]

We don’t really optimize openers in sims

And trinkets only in edge cases

[tall atlas]

do i hold tea for anything

or just send for energy

[balmy condor]

Energy yep

[tall atlas]

cool cool

hold vanish for the 2m dm

hold a shiv for that too

maybe 2 who knows

[balmy condor]

Depending on kill time you’d want to hold sepsis a bit and vanish after the opener imp gar

[woeful meteor]

hold 1 second comes up during it when played correctly

[balmy condor]

Like on nelth prog that’s what you gotta do sorta

Also on magmorax since you can get an extra vanish

[tall atlas]

ffs

[gentle gyro]

what exactly do you mean? as in, fo which killtimers should you hold sepsis

[tall atlas]

i might just stick to sub man

[gentle gyro]

any that would give you a 2nd / 3rd vanish if you use it early?#

[woeful meteor]

Do you just send sepsis and the imp gar on the add in p2 nelth or how did you play it?

[winter gale]

On mythic rashok last phase

Do I keep cloak for 2 stacks of debuff and then clean both?

[woeful meteor]

yes

[balmy condor]

My nelth cds are opener like normal, vanish after sepsis gar, then hold sepsis like 7-8 seconds for when he gets pulled away for the big aoe, once he’s standing still about to cast it, you sepsis gar shiv, and that’ll cover the entire Deathmark towards the end of p1, you then get sepsis for the first adds, vanish Deathmark for the second add and sepsis for the third add, you refresh garrote on boss going into p3, then it’s just as normal from there

[balmy condor]

I was cloaking on second slam in last phase, so first slam p1, first slam p2, then I would eat first slam p2, and cloak the second

[royal lantern]

wait, vanish after sepsis gar?

did i miss something?

[balmy condor]

Yeah like after it drops?

[royal lantern]

or brainfart

dont you hold vanish for 2nd DM

[balmy condor]

The entire conversation is about how fights can be min-maxed to vanish earlier

[royal lantern]

i should not open spec channels at 11pm and half asleep

[mint kindle]

What's the ST opener with the AoE build please?

[tall atlas]

yoi

sin dam kinda nuts?

[mint kindle]

And what dungeon is Assassination especially good in

[balmy condor]

The same thing as the ST opener with the ST build but without sepsis

[balmy condor]

None

[mint kindle]

I know it's bad, but I want to try it

What would be the best dungeon for that?

[balmy condor]

Uh

Idk

Pick one I guess

I don’t really think about dungeons like that

[woeful meteor]

Probably underot

[pseudo hamlet]

Do we double garrote with M+ build?

[balmy condor]

We don’t play exsang, so we don’t double garrote

[pseudo hamlet]

Damn, I thought that doubling garrotes would be a DPS gain because of the talents.

Good to know!

[balmy condor]

Yeah double garrote was only really a thing because of exsang, or in bfa with the azerite shrouded

Because the azerite shrouded actually gave more damage from stealth

Talent shrouded doesn’t

So bit pointless

[mint kindle]

We don't? Is the build in #assassination-faq wrong?

[balmy condor]

Pins

[mint kindle]

I read that one, but does this mean I don't follow the build in that channel?

What do I get instead?

[mint kindle]

That's raid

I'm talking about M+

[gentle gyro]

charge your phone

[balmy condor]

Oh

Well that’s easy

[mint kindle]

So was the other person

[balmy condor]

You take master assassin

Only other option

Cause you can’t get to iron wire any other way

[mint kindle]

Alright

Thank you

[balmy condor]

Np

[tall atlas]

there is a new mastery rune ye

[balmy condor]

Good luck in your key

[tall atlas]

i have like 0% haste tbh

maybe i should get some haste

[gaunt moat]

Personally for me, it depends if i soak a little swirly or not. if i do, i cloak swirly.
if i don't i cloak 2nd big soak.

[winter gale]

Ty

One more general q

I want to use 1st sepsis garrote asap and 2nd in a very last moment?

I sometimes use 2nd one with 2,3,4 sec left due to being energy starved or being far away from target in moments to come

[balmy condor]

Generally this

[balmy condor]

This is usually not too bad

You’re still holding the majority of the buff and waiting

So it’s fine

As long as you think about why you need to cast early and can justify it

Sounds good to me

[shell osprey]

imo freehold and braken are fun as sin

big pulls on high keys

ulda is fun too

[dusk summit]

Does anyone know if onyx amulet sims properly?

[gaunt moat]

It does

[dusk summit]

oh awesome I just got super luck and got the "ony imposter's birthright" out of the mythic quest.

gutta see if that amulet gets replaced at all.

as i understand it Dungeon slice is the most accurate for M+ and patchwork for raid?

[static glacier]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[dusk summit]

Ive read that, but tbh I dont really get it. But i did get the sim done 🙂

[royal lantern]

more or less yeha

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

kill times look like rashok

[keen spruce]

at least you guys are consistently gettin to p3

[gusty mirage]

[balmy condor]

is it just damage

or what

[keen spruce]

it's the lava coom bukkake

on like 6 people

[balmy condor]

just move

[keen spruce]

o wait that includes wipes

I thought i was gonna be top 5 cuz i was getting hit so much

turns out

everybody pac-manning those things

[woeful meteor]

just filter after like 3 deaths

or when you call wipe

[keen spruce]

that's what that is

i just didn't filter the first time

[woeful meteor]

117

[keen spruce]

idc if tanks get hit

he's immortal

and 100 parses

he's probably collecting them for his healing parse

like we were only about 80-90k short on damage when everyone died to the 3rd slam except like 6 of us

so we have the damage

[woeful meteor]

ye obviously tank hits are pretty irrelevant, but 117 looks like actively trying to get hit

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/pacman-video-game-eating-marshmallow-gif-6008098

[tall atlas]

Is it worth playing sin with 0% haste

Comparative to the other specs

[keen spruce]

0% sin is fine

but sims will probably want you to pick some up

[balmy condor]

it's technically not worth playing sin compared to the other specs regardless of your haste

but like shmeeps said, the haste is generally whatever

[winter gale]

I am feeling good as assa on rashok

My guild killed it but Im now on a rekill/reprogress 😂

We spent 2hrs on it tonight without killing it

[dark token]

  - Both stealth abilities trigger Improved Garrote, and should be used on garrote
    - The first should be used early to empower your garrote
    - The second after sepsis fades should be HELD as long as possible in order to extend the first garrote (refreshing it in pandemic under 5.4 seconds is fine in this case)```

what does holding the second garrote mean

do you literally afk until pandemic

[keen spruce]

you use other abilities

that aren't ambush or garrote

[dark token]

pressing any button exits stealth no?

[keen spruce]

it doesn't put you in stealth

it lets you use a stealth ability

just a buff that lasts like 10s

[dark token]

[keen spruce]

only gets consumed by stealth abilities

[runic hinge]

The warlock in my guild got trinkets this week, I'll never see the top of the meter again

[vapid sierra]

would itb e stupid to hold beacon for 2t on expiremnts?

[spice surge]

If you lose out on a cast its not worth it, if you still get the same amount of casts in the fight its +15% damage on it

[vapid sierra]

dude holy shit 2 target dot mangement is something to adjust two

anyone got like a wa that pops up two frames on screen and jsut shows dots

[shut owl]

I just use plater; cev and whisp have some profiles iirc that are damn near that on your targets

[vapid sierra]

its hard to see the dot in whispyrs tbh

thats what im uising rn

do you have a link to cevs?

[pure moth]

https://wago.io/gf0Dg_Ujr

[teal iris]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/enemy-grid

ah wait it doesn't look like it was updated since SL

[vapid sierra]

doesnt matter

all i need is to be able to see dots lmao

i might try makign a wa that has like target name+hp static on screen with teh dots next to it that way their not on a tiny frame and always in the same spot

[teal iris]

yea thats what that addon did

[runic hinge]

cev's plater is goated

[vapid sierra]

i tried cevs

smalelr than whispyrs

but more clear

if you can make them ibgger

[teal iris]

you could also just add WA tracker for dots on target+focus in your WA cluster for 2 targets

[shut owl]

you can also edit it yourself

[untold dragon]

so guys is assa actually as competitive as sub now? for st

[shut owl]

its just a profile

[teal iris]

competitive with what?

they are equally mid now

[untold dragon]

yea i was wondering if it went from bottom 5 to sub level

[teal iris]

yep

[keen spruce]

Naowh's plater profile has it too and some other nice features

as long as you can get used to green bar means bad

cuz it's a tank profile

[vapid sierra]

what would dots be here?

[teal iris]

debuffs

doesn't atrocity's UI have some custom WA to show dots on boss frames though? I swear it used to at least

yea it does, you just need to add rupture since it's mainly for priest/druid/afflock

@vapid sierra

[vapid sierra]

ty

stupid question

hwo do i add rupture

do i copy one of hte debuffs and change spell i

[teal iris]

either copy and change spell id or just change the spell id and name of an existing one

gotta do it for all 8 though

[limber lion]

It is, the pictures just aint :p

[teal iris]

hmm it says last update jan 2022 though?

or am i misunderstanding the site

[woeful meteor]

The Discord in the description isn't updated

[vapid sierra]

whats that one taslent that gives us energy

based off of dot duration

on mob death

[runic hinge]

venomous wounds

[limber lion]

Literally says Jan 6th 2023 at the top

And it even says "Dragonflight 10.0"

Guess I'll update it to 10.1 tomorrow, even though nothing really changes

[ebon notch]

"update notes: name"

[balmy condor]

[ebon notch]

How's the mental whispyr

[balmy condor]

I haven't had mental since 2017

[ebon notch]

What happened in 2017

[balmy condor]

I lost my mental

[ebon notch]

Oh no

[main vessel]

Whispyr is what you get when you put cat ears on burnout

[balmy condor]

no

they have no effect

I'm like bruce banner

the secret is

I'm always burned out

[main vessel]

yeah

so I'm saying

burnout + cat ears = whispyr

[balmy condor]

sure

that seems reasonable

[main vessel]

quick mafs

[vapid sierra]

will beacon cleave more than one erradict remmenant?

[balmy condor]

more than one what the fuck

[vapid sierra]

yeah

we're having issues with cleaving them down once thad hits 50

[balmy condor]

brother I don't know what you're talking about

what the fuck is an erradict remmenant

those aren't english words

[ebon notch]

He doesn't know about erradict remmenant

[balmy condor]

am I dumb

those aren't words

those letters in that order don't mean things

don't gaslight me

[ebon notch]

Erratic remnant I'm guessing

[balmy condor]

oh on experiments?

[ebon notch]

I'll blow gas up your skirt any time

[balmy condor]

I mean if they're close enough together

I guess beacon could cleave them

but they'd have to be super close

you can see the circle around the target you beacon

it's a very small aoe

[ebon notch]

I think he was asking if it cleaves at all

And yes it does

[balmy condor]

well yeah of course it cleaves

it says as much in the tooltip

[ebon notch]

Buddy

Did you see what he was typing

[balmy condor]

"split between all nearby enemies."

[ebon notch]

I think the tooltip isn't quite where he's at

[balmy condor]

brother I don't know what this convo is I'm just saying things

[vapid sierra]

the thing

half the time with sparks and shit im used to it being where you cant auto like bf cleave them from outlaw or some shit or atleast thats what it feels like

so idk of other cleave shit shit acts teh same

[balmy condor]

what

[ebon notch]

It's in plain English fam

Those are all English words

[balmy condor]

I ain't ever seen those words in that order tho

[ebon notch]

Gotta learn new orders it's the only way

[gusty mirage]

thank god that's how structuring sentences works in english

[vapid sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/joy-roblox-woo-sturdy-noob-gif-26212988

[ebon notch]

Just slop it together

Eventually it'll make sense

[balmy condor]

isn't outlaw blade flurry like

[gusty mirage]

from they two drive orange potatoes report the seventeen apples

[balmy condor]

one of the better cleaves on those sparks

[gusty mirage]

those are all english words too sir

[vapid sierra]

not on those sparks

sparks from other tiers

[ebon notch]

I like this guy tho he should write the pins

[vapid sierra]

i ahvent touched outlaw this tier

[vapid sierra]

i should fr fr

[main vessel]

[spice surge]

has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

[balmy condor]

so

[ebon notch]

No shot

Reported them for what

[balmy condor]

I'm still confused

whats the question

[main vessel]

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo

[vapid sierra]

if beacon will cleave sparks becuase i thought sparks act differently in terms of how they take damage

[balmy condor]

they act like any other target

[gusty mirage]

Whispyr skilled player but that is not normally, This very very insane....They need to check him pc and game.....Maybe he not cheating but maybe he using the game deficit ...and this cant seem on game screen..He needs to check-up....Daps FPL Cheater with Streaming.....I think day0s still cheating...Whispyrusing game deficit on PRO scene ,ON BIG Events.Maybe everyone dont knows him trick.He incredible....I want to ask his where is the comming of your skill's ?

[vapid sierra]

i guess my mind linked them to the explosive affix

[balmy condor]

if beacon hits both

[main vessel]

the question is basically

are sparks totems

[vapid sierra]

im acting like a dumbass rn

[main vessel]

or are they not

[ebon notch]

What

[balmy condor]

I'm irl stunlocked

[vapid sierra]

you cant like cleave them you have to manually target them

[balmy condor]

I'm ngl

[ebon notch]

Which sparks do you mean

Like where

[main vessel]

the sparks on experiments

[ebon notch]

What content

[vapid sierra]

explosives from m+

[ebon notch]

WHAT

[vapid sierra]

my mind like linked them together to sparks in raid

idk why

[main vessel]

Vexero buddy

I translated it

we're gucci

[ebon notch]

Vexero needs a nap

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/asahi-rokka-lock-bang-dream-bandori-anime-gif-20917322

[vapid sierra]

i mean i am hungover on like 3 hours of sleep

[keen spruce]

bomb adds on experiments do not work like M+ explosive

[vapid sierra]

i do need sleep

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/busted-myth-busters-adam-savage-gif-5323191

[ebon notch]

Yes go sleep

[vapid sierra]

i cant for the next hour

[ebon notch]

Whispyr will come tuck you in

[vapid sierra]

then i got fucking school tomorrow

[main vessel]

so to summarize

the adds on experiments are not totems

[keen spruce]

ask your professor if beacon can cleave sparks

[main vessel]

[vapid sierra]

ill ask my science teacher

[main vessel]

that sounds like a crime

[earnest remnant]

i want oxi to tuck me in

[vapid sierra]

uh oh my message got deleted

im in trouble

[balmy condor]

is that surprising to you

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/samuel-jackson-sleep-go-to-sleep-go-the-fuck-to-sleep-gif-5442067

[vapid sierra]

i should stop typing now 💀

[balmy condor]

yeah that sounds like a good idea

[ebon notch]

Oh no whispyr angry

[gusty mirage]

[ebon notch]

Hide

[oak sky]

[gusty mirage]

@earnest remnant I need music for sark prog

150 pulls of payphone might cause me to lose whatever I have left of my sanity

[main vessel]

what kind of music are you looking for, king

[gusty mirage]

BUT NOW I'VE WASTED MY NIGHTS

YOU TURNED OUT THE LIGHTS

NOW I'M PARALYZED

https://tenor.com/view/stable-ronaldo-dance-gif-18658322

[balmy condor]

https://open.spotify.com/track/1khq5gFJaY6ztqQ92tbD3l?si=235f3a1c2dfc45ce

[oak sky]

STILL STUCK IN THAT TIME

WHEN WE WERE IN LOVE

[runic hinge]

https://open.spotify.com/track/01Lr5YepbgjXAWR9iOEyH1?si=97d50097a13b423f

[main vessel]

still need genre limitations, oxi

otherwise I might get you something real weird

[woeful meteor]

Nah we should just send him all our main playlists and see how he reacts

[gusty mirage]

this song fucking SLAPS

[oak sky]

excellent choice

[balmy condor]

[main vessel]

https://open.spotify.com/track/4yR1YTsrs38dHP6fzcXM93?si=773aba0fa62e4938

[vapid sierra]

https://open.spotify.com/track/1QffBm9RUOtW1Swas3p0vb?si=d6f830c1d8b3461a

[keen spruce]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWwE_FFt3D4 slap this shit on repeat at max volume and that boss will be dead in 10 pulls

[vapid sierra]

lmaoo

raid playlist

https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYqE3yhtU698mKyrEyZUj9ckabqY0VQOS

[cerulean walrus]

@gusty mirage my RL is a psychopath that will play Chocolate Rain on repeat for hours at a time during Prog

Might work for you

[gusty mirage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Soa3gO7tL-c me rn

[cerulean walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-krusty-krab-crawling-crawl-fish-gif-23583867

[woeful meteor]

depending on your tolerance for somewhere between mediocre and bad german rap and some absolutely not mixing genres I have a banger playlist for

adding songs to only 1 playlist and cleaning that once per year max has some interresting results

[gusty mirage]

the only german rap I tolerate is @balmy condor wrapped around me while we cuddle

[vapid sierra]

ever heard of dwarf metal/

[woeful meteor]

moment

[gusty mirage]

[balmy condor]

Mein Handy klingelt, unbekannt
Die Schlampe, sie wird neidisch of verliert fast den Verstand
Mein Handy klingelt, ich lehn ab
Denn die Schalmped stehen Schlange, all wollen auf mein Schwanz

you just gotta like

vibe

and not listen to german rap

if you don't think about it, it's a slapper

[woeful meteor]

I know which song that is

or I'm pretty sure which one that is

[balmy condor]

Zensery is a classic

[woeful meteor]

Just checked wasn't thinking of that one, but the lyrics are almost identical

[vapid sierra]

are you german whispyr?

or got german parents

[balmy condor]

first generation american

german/austrian parents

[brazen zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0XcqF7rqHk c:

[gusty mirage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHoT4N43jK8

[brazen zodiac]

:o

[runic hinge]

https://open.spotify.com/track/2LKOHdMsL0K9KwcPRlJK2v?si=59baf614ac7743a7

my most played song of the past month

[cinder bone]

how big a dps loss is not having annulent ring?

[gusty mirage]

it's pretty much your best in slot for almost the entire tier

[runic hinge]

does ap affect SBS?

[fallen raven]

yes, from what i can see

[runic hinge]

time to cook something stupid and bad

[fallen raven]

as far as i can tell this is the list of what ap affects (from https://www.wowhead.com/spell=400789/shiv)

midnight looks like a scrapped sub ability, if you're curious about what that is

[runic hinge]

Well I can't cook because i can't get ap and dtb and SBS so the stove is off

[runic hinge]

I’m stupid and can’t count talent points

[spice spire]

Real

[gilded burrow]

is there any embellishements i should add to a crafted dagger or just make sure its good ilevel with crit/mastery?

[proper tapir]

flavor pocket maybe

[gilded burrow]

but its not a major dps increase i would assume right?

[proper tapir]

0% dps increase, unless you consider death on raid boss or in M+

[gilded burrow]

also should i prio the smily boots or the dagger? i have a good version already for both

[proper tapir]

That's a good question for my old buddy raidbot

[thick sail]

Doomblade vs. Amplifying Poison?

[balmy condor]

what a wild talent comparison

[runic hinge]

My thought as well

[balmy condor]

goes to show how different everyone thinks sometimes ya know

it's fascinating sometimes

[thin portal]

hey guys, im back since shadowlands. Was wondering if I should choose goblin, troll or BE? I switched to tauren but it got real boring to look at. Horde races only. Thanks

[balmy condor]

what's the goal of swapping

[runic hinge]

Vulpera because it flips

[balmy condor]

like what are you trying to get out of it

[runic hinge]

Flips I hope

[thin portal]

well troll hp regen during combat and haste buff or 1% crit chance or 1% haste always with rocket jump hmmmm

[balmy condor]

so

[thin portal]

The tauren is boring to look at also..

[balmy condor]

okay

so I can't actually help you unless you have a goal in mind here

races are super minimal dps/utility increases that won't change your gameplay

[thin portal]

yeah

I made level 1's to see what they all look like lol

I think last i remember, BE was top of the meters with that 1% crit chance lol

BE was favored for dps in PvE

however slight it was

[balmy condor]

if you want a dps ranking that I can help you with

[proper tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-do-that-here-black-panther-tchalla-bruce-gif-16558003

[thin portal]

hahah

damnit tauren is first on Horde

thanks for the list

[balmy condor]

idk if that's really something to be upset about when the bottom to the top is 1.07%

[thin portal]

i saw that lol

[balmy condor]

I've played vulpera for a while and have had like 25 parses in the top 10

just pick what looks cool

[thin portal]

i think ive played orc, troll and BE now

Maybe I should try goblin

oh and tauren currently

oh ow

wow

dwarf has some cool tattoos

too bad orc is the only cool tattoos on horde

how is assassin vs outlaw now? compared to Shadowlands?

I wanted to play sin so bad in shadowlands, but outlaw was way more dps for me.

[balmy condor]

outlaw better m+ worse raid

[thin portal]

interesting

im considering switching to alliance for the dwarf tattoos haha

not many races have many tattooo options

[royal lantern]

mate, like 4000races have 1% crit lol

+racials dont matter in the end anyway

[thin portal]

just off my memory though, BE was at the top of parses usually.

back at the end of Shadowlands

[balmy condor]

[royal lantern]

got my 99's as Vulpera, even if the "racials are giga important omg need to go dwarf now" crowd acts as if thats not possible

[royal lantern]

because 90% of the playerbase plays "generic elf"

thats it

[thin portal]

not saying that it matters what race we are, just stating my memory towards the end of Shadowlands.

[balmy condor]

but like

why

it's like saying "off my memory, green apples are better than red apples"

sure

I gues

if that's how you feel

[thin portal]

I was just wondering if its changed

[balmy condor]

it

what

[thin portal]

nvm

[balmy condor]

it was never like that

[thin portal]

you guys are getting so hostile over racials with me 😛

[balmy condor]

I'm not trying to get hostile

I'm just super confused where this conversation is supposed to go

[thin portal]

ill stop there

[balmy condor]

you're stating opinions as if they're facts

like BE being top of the parses

when BE is just as "top of parses" as every other race

[thin portal]

😮

[balmy condor]

like

you saw the chart

shit is absolutely meaningless

in terms of gameplay, dps

your choice is race is cosmetic

that's why I'm so confused

cause like if you think something looks cool, great

play that then

I can't tell you what you think looks cool to you

because that's not how opinions work

I play vulpera, cause I think it's funny seeing a tiny fox

and they do flips

flips are cool

[deft flicker]

Fox flips are cool. Leaf lover flips aren’t

IMO

[runic hinge]

Racist

[deft flicker]

Yea, might be

[royal lantern]

excuse me, i got the REVERSE racist achievment a week ago

[balmy condor]

also like, vulpera can have some funny mogs

[royal lantern]

[thin portal]

when does vulpera do flips?

[royal lantern]

when they jump

[thin portal]

on finishers?

[hollow vault]

helms on vulpera

[deft flicker]

Also 8 free bag spots for various shit to carry around

[balmy condor]

[hollow vault]

undead female best finishers omg

[royal lantern]

helms on anything that is not human

[deft flicker]

How much DPS is 8 bag slots worth??

[balmy condor]

spell animations are all the same across races

[royal lantern]

8bag slots AND camp

[deft flicker]

Oh true

9 spots

[balmy condor]

bro don't make fun of my hat

my hat is sick

[thin portal]

lol

[runic hinge]

Been using the ulduar set on my Nelf and my ears don’t clip but my fucking eyebrows do

[royal lantern]

eh, finishers are different cus they all use 1 of the 2-3 racial unique "hwavy attack" animations

[hallow sonnet]

Even your character seems to wonder wth its wearing

[deft flicker]

Bdcause you can set up camp near annulet forge and not make a second annulet

[thin portal]

Robin hood

[hollow vault]

how he hat fit on he head

[balmy condor]

it's wearing best tier set in the last 4 expansions

[royal lantern]

you know, seeing that i wonder

how does the hat stay in place

[balmy condor]

wedged between the ears

like glasses

[deft flicker]

Shadows suck it in

[thin portal]

vulpera looking interesting hmmm

[hollow vault]

glue

[thin portal]

hows the vulpera stealth animation?

goblin tip toeing is really anoyying.

[royal lantern]

1of the better ones

[balmy condor]

bit sleuthy I guess

[thin portal]

not going goblin because of the tip toeing.

[hallow sonnet]

I have such a hard time adjusting for small or big models. Both vulpera/goblin and tauren feels odd to dodge stuff with for me

[balmy condor]

glue eater?

[runic hinge]

Goblin stealth animation is objectively hilarious and I won’t see it slandered in this discord

[hollow vault]

😋

[deft flicker]

12/10, stealing two full barrels of Kaja-cola for the bois

[thin portal]

hmmm, im also not going panda because the jumping kick everytime you jump is distracting lol.

[deft flicker]

Speaking of, what do you think of Zandalari animations?? Been thinking of making one of those

[hallow sonnet]

I've been female panda since mop :D

[balmy condor]

I hate how troll feet mangle all my mogs

so insta decline on zandalari

[thin portal]

oh yeah, trolls dont have boots.

[deft flicker]

Yea, that’s a big sad

[royal lantern]

they are also in the upper half of animations tbh

but yeha, no boots and a weird nail at your feet backside

[deft flicker]

The whole Zemlan treasure quest line is such a bop

[balmy condor]

oh my god the reverse toe

[deft flicker]

Trolls are birds

[thin portal]

oh yeah they do have a toe nail on the back of the heel.

[royal lantern]

female panda in Plate looks good, and thats not even a furry opinion

it just looks like plate armor is supposed to be: more massive and sturdy, most other female races look like stickbugs with platearmor lol

[balmy condor]

furry opinion

[royal lantern]

female belf in plate

legit bodypain

[thin portal]

I like samurai mogs and BE has best hair style for that, but no tattoo's.

[deft flicker]

Female dwarfs tho

[hallow sonnet]

I do agree. Though I feel most "bulky" leather fits it well too. And hoods are great on them as well

[royal lantern]

no, furry opinion is "im gonna go dragon rogue the second its avaible, cus im a scalie anyway"

[balmy condor]

I expect nothing less from you mr tryan

[thin portal]

I see human has different race when you choose different faces. Like white and asian face haha.

[royal lantern]

female dwarf is when you know the guy is bringing shit down

female dwarf blood dk tank? that guy is pulling 80% of dungeon trash at once and the hp bar never moves below 100% hp, all interupts solod by them, shit is insane

[hallow sonnet]

I would however want an Ezio transmog like this

Would be rad

[plain flower]

How do we get the 3rd point in zoldyck recipe without dropping good talents?

[thin portal]

i can see that on female panda lol

[hallow sonnet]

So few good white leather options

[deft flicker]

I think the only option is to drop shrouded suffocation

[plain flower]

Damn that doesnt seem worth

[deft flicker]

You can’t drop anything above row 8 because then there’s not enough points to get to row 8

[royal lantern]

hey, if you go into modelviewer, dracthyr actually have a better stealth animation then most others cus it actually looks like trying to be sneaky, and not just "walk slow" that most have

[plain flower]

What about dropping cut to the chase?

O i see

[royal lantern]

cease

[runic hinge]

Desist

[plain flower]

Lmao

[balmy condor]

it's definitely worth on a couple bosses

[plain flower]

Uwu

[deft flicker]

And below row 8 if you try DTB+3/3 zoldyck + sepsis you have no points left

[plain flower]

Assa making my brain hurt

My 2 braincells just want to pump

[deft flicker]

If it hurts - it’s not dead

[plain flower]

I am top damage tho so i guess it doesnt matter

[deft flicker]

You’re experiencing mitosis, watch those 2 brain cells become 4

[plain flower]

Lmao

[thin portal]

at least you are playing, im still thinking what race to play with.

[deft flicker]

Dwarf

[runic hinge]

The warlock in my guild got fragment and class trinket this week so I won’t see the top of the meter for the rest of the patch

[plain flower]

Not with that attitude lol

My warlock got benched cause he missed one raid

[hallow sonnet]

Sounds like a ToT target

[plain flower]

Very happy fuck that guy lol

[thin portal]

im not a beard fan, but it is BiS race and the tattoos are new and refreshing. Horde only have orc tattoos. I don't count the troll tattoos as proper tattoos >_>

Tauren have paint on the fur lol

[deft flicker]

Lightforged Draenei have some nice tattoos, and are an option for rogues since 10.1 I believe

[hallow sonnet]

Rogues can be all races nowdays. Well minus dracthyr

[deft flicker]

I personally don’t perceive dracthyr-evoker combo as part of the class-race combos. Feels more like a standalone thing

Evoker talent tree has nodes that interact with racials + no other class can be dracthyr

[thin portal]

I'd play Orc female but they run unnaturally.

the run animation is so weir

weird

[deft flicker]

Yea

[thin portal]

how do you like Sub now?

back at the end of shadowlands, it was really good for M+ aoe.

[deft flicker]

Not a fan of the Arcane Trickster subclass tbh

[thin portal]

I never figured it out. ended up playing Outlaw the whole time.

[royal lantern]

i mean, we know that we get dracthyr for other classes somewhere down the line aswell

its just the question if it happens during DF or after it

[deft flicker]

I wonder if evokers will ever be available to other races

[royal lantern]

doubt

its like DH, WAY to many unique animations

[hallow sonnet]

I could see the visages being able to be more races though

[royal lantern]

+the entire idea of evoker is "you are a firebreathing dragon"

[thin portal]

does female panda have the jump kick everytime you jump too Rosvall?

[deft flicker]

That’d do

[hallow sonnet]

They do not no

[royal lantern]

ye, probs without the unique things the current visages have, and just any race+dragon eyes

[thin portal]

food bonus and fall damage hmm

[royal lantern]

make a throwaway character trial and check yourself

[deft flicker]

Seeing dragons take on different forms and then only being able to play as a stickfigure is ehh

[thin portal]

yeah ive been making lvl1's to see them.

[hallow sonnet]

Yeah or check wowhead model viewer

[honest path]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[honest path]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[royal lantern]

honestly, the entire "unique visage" thing was imo a waste of resources, should have spend time giving dracthyr transmog from the start instead of saying "yeha, later", and not waste resources and worktime on a playermodle that you cant even use in combat lol

just should have let you take any race you want, cus its a RP only thing anyway lol

[deft flicker]

[loud galleon]

When are we getting rid of our Annulet?

[balmy condor]

when you get a ring that sims higher

[loud galleon]

ok

[robust dune]

Excuse me, I thought that the Sarkareth's dagger was BIS, is this OK?

[balmy condor]

sark dagger is bis because it drops at 450 on mythic, which is higher than any other dagger

it's just as good as any other dagger at equal ilvl

like a 447 crafted will beat your 437 sark dagger very easily

[robust dune]

Okkey ty Whisp ❤️

[verbal fox]

Hi, what do you think about best craft item next? I think it will be good to craft 447 ring or chest to have more agility and better stats or head…. Pls do not say sim yourself🥲

[balmy condor]

but sim yourself is the only right answer

it just be like that

it depends what gear you have

and the only way to know what the best item to craft is, would be to sim

[cunning nest]

Its working on the current shredder Set tough

Darkspeer never die, mon

[remote oak]

Zanda is BiS don't dis the heel nail

[winter gale]

I tried opener with ER for the 1st Rupture, feels a bit better than Muti to 5

[balmy condor]

Glad to hear it

[lavish hazel]

Er withouth shiv looks bad

[molten galleon]

Deathmark/exsang still bugged ?

[balmy condor]

Yap

Next change you’ll see regarding exsang is a complete rework

Quote me on it

[tacit otter]

Last time you said it'll be removed

[clever sapphire]

next expansion*

[balmy condor]

I mean same thing

If it’s a completely different gameplay with the same name and icon, it’s basically removed

If they reworked envenom to be eviscerate

Then envenom would be removed

[drifting cloud]

whispyr yesterday I had a nightmare they bugfixed exsang

[tacit otter]

I expect someone coming in here in few hours going 'i heard envenom gets changed to evisc, real?'

[clever sapphire]

then you woke up and remembered we arent warlocks so bugfixes dont happen

happy times

[molten galleon]

a complete delete into a new cool cooldown

When Improvet garrote runs out without the option to refresh it with another improvet garrote do we let it run out or refresh on last secound with normal garrote ?

[limber lion]

If you have to choose between a normal garrote and an empowered garrote, you always choose the latter

I'm guessing you're talking about the Sepsis proc?

You would use it on Garrote if it's about to drop yes even if Garrote isn't in pandemic

[hollow dirge]

if you're refreshing with another improved, you follow pandemic

[molten galleon]

nah thats not my queston 😄

[limber lion]

"Improved garrote runs out and you can extend it with improved garrote, use improved or normal garrote"

[molten galleon]

I got Improvet garrote up, I dont have vanish/spesis procc, do I refresh last second with a normal garrote, or do I let it run out and then apply a normal garrote.

[limber lion]

You let it run out

[molten galleon]

what?

[molten galleon]

okay

[limber lion]

I see, I guess I read it wrong

[molten galleon]

but then this is false no ?

[limber lion]

Early morning gg's

[limber lion]

No I was just copying your question

but I just read it wrong

[molten galleon]

ah okay 😄

[limber lion]

Let improved garrotes always drop before reapplying normal garrotes

[molten galleon]

same for esxsang garrote / rupture no ?

[limber lion]

You never play Exsanguinate anywhere

So knowing what to do there doesn't matter

You would let Exsanguinated garrotes/ruptures drop as well yes, but legit never play that talent anywhere ever so it's pointless

[molten galleon]

yy I know that its bugged ^^ Just for info I do not play it atm, but I dont mid playing it ^^

[gaunt moat]

@limber lion Tried to implement some of the optimizations you've suggested.
It went better this time. Though I can't be sure of it's just that or because I've dropped fragment for loaded dice.
But I've had overall more damage than before EVEN THOUGH I did not have WF last night.
(sadly we wiped at 0%. also, this 100% is a lie, not sure why it says that)

[gaunt moat]

btw, tip for Rashok (might be obvious to some, but wasn't for me):
If you're targeted for slam, you can shadowstep him (or other raider) while he's mid-air to safely get out and not be hit with the fire he leaves.

[quasi osprey]

I shadowstep rashok mid air for ninja style points

[sharp viper]

that's good to know, started rashok progression yesterday

[limber lion]

Good stuff, congrats!

[limber lion]

I've been trying to get the loaded dice myself, been only getting rings.

[strange python]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ayiiqgVQnVfSZyv1znYA98 y sim so tiny with tepid vers

just too much vers in gear i guess?

[storm forum]

Is it weird that I kinda like not taking ttk?

[royal lantern]

kinda?

cus ttk does nothing lol

[storm forum]

I was playing without it last night and I didn't mind pressing slice and dice. Only issue I had was sometimes trying to use Anima charged cps on it, which didn't work.

[woeful meteor]

thats ctc tho

[storm forum]

Oh

That's what I meant

Oops

[woeful meteor]

and nvm thats ttb

[storm forum]

Too many Ts in these abbreviations

Easy to get confused

[wraith cosmos]

i really dont like the idea of suddenly having to track the buff

its kinda nice its actually a gameplay choice though

[royal lantern]

no

🙂

[thin radish]

Do sims take into account the auto attack increase of Jeweled Signet of Melandrus?

[woeful meteor]

yes

[flat kiln]

Are toxic boots still looking better after slimy sim fix? Still seeing 90%+ top logs on slimy but not sure if that's just because not worth crafting boots again yet

[woeful meteor]

Toxic > Slimy, but the difference isn't worth the craft unless your other gear ist stacked

Like last spark and next week aswell just crafting a good stated armor piece had more value for me

[flat kiln]

Yeah makes sense, thanks

[cursive orchid]

is it worth to use the corrupting rage flask in dungeons if you are not alchemyst?

[primal jolt]

is shafowflame crafted items better than the slime boots?

the ones with the armor patch

[spice spire]

No

[clever sapphire]

according to whispyrs and fuus BiS simsheet its not. If you need further proof,

[vestal wren]

shadowflame is kinda dissapointing for us

but you can always sim it

[primal jolt]

ah alright ty

[vestal wren]

#tc-research has a string that allows you to easy add crafted gear to your sim (pinned)

[primal jolt]

ive been slacking on my rogue this season due to our guild needing a healer

so its still geared from season 1

that's why I'm asking around atm xd

i cba really to sim a 400ilvl rogue

ive also seen the pinned message for deathmark

is that still the case?

[cobalt hemlock]

think they would make another pin if the bug was fixed

[spice spire]

Yeah you won’t be running Exsang. Once it’s fixed, pin removed or updated etc

We try not to leave outdated info there

[primal jolt]

kk ty

[vague widget]

Yeah the pins are very well maintained because otherwise there's little sense redirecting inquiries there.

[keen spruce]

don't say fixed

[gaunt moat]

Shmeeps, did you see the health we wiped on Rashok?

[keen spruce]

no

[stiff geode]

Do y'all go by parse % or ilvl % when looking at logs?
finally killed n sark 😄

[woeful meteor]

parse

ilvl is irrelevant

[stiff geode]

Oh rip lol aight ty

[spice surge]

To clarify, ilvl isnt a good indicator of what damage you should be doing as somebody with 410 ilvl overall but good 441 trinkets and weapon will probably do a lot more damage than somebody with 425 overall but with poor trinkets and not a high lvl weapon

[stiff geode]

That makes sense actually yeah.

dragonfire bomb out here giving me 4.46% damage 0.0

no way to tell in logs how much the firelands crit trink boosted me is there?

[gaunt moat]

Mental damage taken was high.

32k HP
this is literally A HIT.

and then our tanks's internet fucked up and we had to call it.

[thorn fjord]

Thats rough

[keen spruce]

[storm forum]

thats fucked up

[royal lantern]

well

did all your beacons crit?

[gaunt moat]

Our whole 0 beacons cause they never drop 🥲

[royal lantern]

well

skill issue then

(my guild will kill rashok without me tonight pog)

[primal jolt]

why is rashok such a big deal

its like piss easy imo

unless we're talking about mythic raiding

[drifting cloud]

you figured it out

[spice spire]

It’s mythic. Rashok is the first hard wall people run into

[primal jolt]

aye that is true

[gusty mirage]

ddos your tanks

so you can be there for the kill

[drifting cloud]

hi oxi hows banana man

[clever sapphire]

trust me they wont, that atrophic poison dmg reduction is gonna be missed no cap

[woeful meteor]

how did the music work out?

[royal lantern]

allright, story time:

during BoD in BfA, i had really shity internet and was in a really REALLY shity guild with my best friend(healer)

the RL benched me for a raidnight that had a 100% chance to be the jaina kill (and it was obvious that the guild will disband after the kill) cus of internet problems

so my friend just...."forgot" to press healing cd's

the entire night

nobody noticed

no kill, 2days later i was in and we killed it

[teal iris]

[cerulean nest]

I remember reading somewhere once that shadow priest gameplay felt loosely similar to sin rogue. is that still the case?

wanna try an alt

[royal lantern]

you dot stuff and then do st spells

that summs up all dot specs lol

spriest rn for m+ is "what happens when we take assassination, make it ranged, the dots actually do dmg and it also has a better bladeflury then outlaw?"

i like that this is not even a exegeration, but actually the case

[clever sapphire]

you forgot the fact that it can also do big offhealing and MD is broken

[royal lantern]

MD should be heal priest only

change my mind

(you cant, im stubborn)

[cerulean nest]

yeah but can it shadowstep

[clever sapphire]

it can grip

delete MD, make single dispells more important

[gusty mirage]

having a blast

[storm forum]

priest is pretty fun. i've been playing all 3 specs.

[clever sapphire]

i have made the decision to play the easier M+ version of assa rogue, feral (atleast until assa gets the promised changes )

[storm forum]

shadow crash being 20 seconds CD makes me mad IC isn't 20 second CD

[drifting cloud]

is that the one end of p1 or a random one you got

[gusty mirage]

that was the first clear

tried moving cloak to last clear

and yeah

worked out great

[drifting cloud]

disintegrate? inst first clear breath

[gusty mirage]

lemme DM you something

[woeful meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-uh-oh-no-gif-12741203

[craggy oak]

make exsang great again

ic makes for the most boring sin paly in keys

super snooz fest

sub 2.0

[subtle tundra]

Based

[craggy oak]

like the cd its self as a 2 min or sumin would be cool

or let it intereact with other shit on our tree

but in current state its objectivly bad to paly with

good for numbers

[woeful meteor]

IC as a passive that makes mark aoe

Gives a strong aoe every 2 min and still requires you to actually dot targets

[fleet pagoda]

how do you gamers find Heroic Sark with assassination? at least in a prog context. I feel useless just tunneling Sark while people are trying to handle adds, but IC feels supremely bad value for this fight so I'm just kinda spamming mutilate and envenom. any suggestions or should I just endure till they figure it out?

[clever sapphire]

adds should die to passive cleave, as assa most you can do is put up like a 2-3 point rupture if you are feeling energy starved

[fleet pagoda]

half the group is grey-green parsers so leaving adds in their care has me torn

[woeful meteor]

Just tunnel boss adds die to cleave unless you never remove heal buff

[fleet pagoda]

endure it is. bless 🙇‍♂️

[craggy oak]

ye sumin like that would be cool

what i want to see is any sort of ic rework + make the right side of the general tree actually accesable, dance +imp gar in keys would be a nice playstyle

this is all ofc ontop of the huge reowrk they cooking up for us already

[clever sapphire]

if you really wanna help with adds its gonna be sub or outlaw, as assa you are not touching them

[royal lantern]

IC is a bandaid cus they cba actually making a gameplay loop

thats why it feels so weird

it helps

but it doesnt solve anything

[craggy oak]

helps with numebrs sure

[royal lantern]

and at the same time limits heavy

[craggy oak]

actively unhelpful in how it plays

[royal lantern]

cant really make bigger multidot stuff rewarding because it always has "yeha, but IC exist"

OR they go the spriest route and just say "fuck it, instant multi dot with 1 button and spam st then, good gameplay cus number big"

[craggy oak]

ye thats why we need to start a movement to get ic remvoed or changed

[royal lantern]

and people will say its good

cus number big

🙂

[craggy oak]

idk we thought we wanted it

but we dont

[fleet pagoda]

aye, if i had the itemization for it i'd have probably gone sub already. i should probably be keeping a spare set for it

[royal lantern]

itemization doesnt matter

im using full assa st raidgear in m+ as sub

who cares

oh no, 2k less overall dps

[clever sapphire]

yep same

crit mastery stats wise is not bad for sub anyways

outlaw is a different story, but for sub its good enough imo

[gusty mirage]

BUT MY DAMAGE TRYAN

[royal lantern]

crit mastery is the best for sub m+ lol

but like

7% haste

OH NO

THE HORROR

HOW WILL I DO DMG IN M+ AS SUB????

[clever sapphire]

ah thought they were leaning more into versa nowadays

guess thats te rotten build only

[fleet pagoda]

[royal lantern]

crit vers is raid, crit mastery is m+

or

just stop caring about secondarys, they are not nearly as impactfull as everyone think they are

ofc you dont want 40%haste in m+, but man people always act as if having 2 pieces with haste means they cant do m+ in a different spec lol

[fleet pagoda]

well my context was raid.. think you intermingled the two discussions

[gusty mirage]

but I need more crit for my beacon to crit

[clever sapphire]

comes down to the same tho

[royal lantern]

ye

like

all 3 want crit primarly

[fleet pagoda]

but with being rusty on playing around macabre, having sub optimal itemization seems like the cherry on top for producing even less

[royal lantern]

so you are allready 80% done just cus you have crit

[royal lantern]

go worgen, 1%more crit for beacon

[gusty mirage]

I'm night elf though

I get 1% more crit anyway

[dapper heath]

crit being a primary is a lie sold to us by big crit

[royal lantern]

i dont belive in crit and the simbot overlords

[gusty mirage]

also blood elf has 1% crit

why did ya suggest worgen mr. tryan?

[royal lantern]

yeha, but now the big problem: you play a elf

thats -30 by default

[gusty mirage]

calm down team jacob from twilight

[dapper heath]

break the system, hard send that mastery in to overdrive

[royal lantern]

you know, i think its funny how often people say "Belf is the best race cus 1% crit!!!" when 1% crit is the most common racial passive in the game lol

same energy as the entire "do i need to go tauren now for more crit dmg??" when dwarf is a rogue option since vanilla

[woeful meteor]

I just simmed it for fun Rotten sub with Full haste mastery gear outside of tier is "only" -14k dps

meanwhile people act like 50 haste on some bracers is -20k

[royal lantern]

i mean, thats the other extreme man

[gusty mirage]

the only 2 good races in wow are nelf and vulpera

because they flip when they jump

change my mind

[burnt latch]

i love twilight

[gusty mirage]

I love you

[burnt latch]

[gusty mirage]

I'm a don herbo fan since day 1

[clever sapphire]

its undead for sure, you can feel dead on the inside every time a blue post comes and also look dead on the outside

[burnt latch]

real og

[royal lantern]

worgen also flip btw

they even had a BACKFLIP for a long time

but blizz changed it into a frontflip during bfa

[burnt latch]

when i started playing in CN my first rogue was worgen

[woeful meteor]

You started in CN?

[burnt latch]

yeah

[gusty mirage]

yeah but fuck worgen

dirty ass humans

trying to RP as something interesting

• their buggy ass starting zone

that's been lagging since cata

and still lags to this day

[woeful meteor]

Starting to top 40 in 1 expac basically sheesh

[proper tapir]

This type of question comes around every once in a while when a hard boss has cleave adds. The best advice I've seen is to select, "all bosses only" on the logs page; suddenly you'll be less worried. You're helping in a different way.

[burnt latch]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7xWfKGXPB4whNprZ#view=rankings&boss=-2&difficulty=0&wipes=2 warcieft the worgen rogue raid #1

[arctic socket]

KT human master race

[burnt latch]

blasting

[gusty mirage]

unironically true

imagine you get mad at your friend

[burnt latch]

just too much free time

[gusty mirage]

then you /duel them and punch them in the face off a mountain side

[royal lantern]

all races are cool

except elves

[woeful meteor]

Surely I dont get declined I'll do the same next Tier

[gusty mirage]

wtf man

shadowmeld actually goated

get a boss mechanic in a dungeon?

meld it onto the warlock

[burnt latch]

i believe in u king

[stiff geode]

shadowmeld is love

even though it isn't dropping combat on trash pulls anymore I've noticed?

[gusty mirage]

some trash do like an "aura" target with their casts

so it puts everyone in combat for seemingly no reason

and if you don't get picked

it drops combat

it's really really weird

[stiff geode]

I'm sitting there trying to spam garrote and it won't let me since CD an I'm not realizing shadowmeld didn't drop combat for me

[royal lantern]

tbf oxi

[stiff geode]

like a derp 😄

[royal lantern]

darkflight is cool

like

1 of the more underrated racials

its better then subs 2min sprint

[gusty mirage]

true

sub rogues should go worgen so they can cope that they don't need 1min sprint

[fleet pagoda]

just use shadowstep to get the couple seconds of powerwalking. s p e e d

[gusty mirage]

unlucky only get 1 step as sub

[royal lantern]

2min sprint is a warcrime

[fleet pagoda]

oh that's right

[gusty mirage]

vanish strike becomes a movement ability for them

actually tragic

[tall atlas]

is iri frag still oversimming

[limber lion]

Yes

[tall atlas]

also is it inting if i play sin with 0% haste

[limber lion]

No

Haste is a construct

Don't believe the lies of the masses

[midnight atlas]

vanish strike movement for sub is dps loss, so even less mobility

[earnest remnant]

[spice spire]

Someone had awoken the trash panda

[gusty mirage]

hi ur cute

[earnest remnant]

news to me

[gusty mirage]

its okay

I'm apparently also "cute"

I'm also someone's "favorite lawyer"

[earnest remnant]

man fuck this heat

i get some ice for my drink