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ye fuck exang
Besides using IC, is dumping combo points into CT the right move in 4+ targets?
You want the short answer?
Give me the essay
As long as you’re maintaining snd through envenom and the CT bleed
It doesn’t matter either way
Envenom, CT
Legit the same
Lmao
Could high roll poison bomb procs
So could fish for those ig
So basically get your bleeds up and get spinning the plates
Yeppers
As long as your bleeds are rolling you’re free to envenom or CT
😭
Don’t let quake read this
That’s what most ppl do
You’ll hurt his feelings

no but like legit there is no chance assa worth anything there, other classes just giga burst the shit out of packs
It’s nice in some niche cases where you’re short on interrupts
maybe if we had an aoe exang or something but otherwise its dog
But yeah the damage is kinda poo poo
Plus FOKing in mass aoe and getting 1-2cp is not very fun
Just checked it vs an Icon and the damage increase was disappointing to say the least.
Are you simming icon with full buffs?
Because icon with full buffs is kinda giga
My icon in the dumps
That could def be correct
I'll check
Ye i was lol
I assume we always use Irideus Fragment with Deathmark?
Yes
wait what did whispyr cook that we now take exsang with sepsis
u can just not use it like ill do cuz i dont care about 1% 
comes down to the playstyle
I even think that if you play better without Exsang you'd actually do more DPS than with it.
That ability requires somekind of micro-managing to reach it's full potential.
i mean the opener for a lot of classes/specs are like a puzzle ngl
Nothing better than hitting puzzle -> exsang -> dm in execute
im so used to exsang opener by now, that if its even remotely close to the exsang playstyle with sbs im down
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an epic item
gettin dog items like i did 
you sometimes see a yellow bar appear for 2-3 seconds in details, really cool
if my only tier option is hands im gonna cry
Is there a straightforward answer to what embellishments we should be running? Or is it still being evaluated?
might have to wait out this one
i know as a fact though that if i dont choose fragment now ill never see it again
I mean its not at max ilvl and you can just farm that out
slime boots+toxic patch
lets just say this happened with putrification vial and leave it at that
I mean true, first round of legion tw I was the chump who ran VotW 200 times without getting faulty countermeasure
My thing is. If the pack isn’t moving I will envenom. If they are moving I ct
fragment won out
Ofc it did
How is the opener with exsang and sepsis? same as before just swap sbs for sepsis or?
Legit no idea, im just waiting for a new pin
Until than im not using exsang with sepsis
did he do it with exsang already too?
You don’t run Exsang with it
im pretty sure he mentioned in that post that he wont go into the exsang part
I mean you can
yes you do
he did some weird shittery magic and now exsang sepsis sims highest
with cttc
It looks like it’s a similar opener just sepsis instead, and not using vanish on opener
dunno, im not raiding for a while now anyways
so i have time until the new post arrives
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so with the new sepsis tech and reading the writeup, do we not have an empowered garrote to cover the third DM?
you keep vanish for dm
for the second half of the second DM correct?
Yes, Sepsis covers the first part and Vanish hits it towards the end. This will come down to fight time, if you can hold 3rd DM for a few seconds to get Vanish and you'd get the whole 16secs then do that
am I missing something or is sepsis and sepsis empowered garrote not tracked in wowanalyzer? Is there a way to see total uptime on empowered garrotes in wowlogs?
Would you guys pick 3/5 Hero gloves now and wait for catalyst or take a 0.7% upgrade from a 2/5 Hero cloak? 🤔
Yeeeah, that'll be future me problem, screw that guy.
Is sepsis and shrouded suff bugged or does using garrote with them should give 1 cp instead of 3?
sepsis garrote does not give the bonus cp from shrouded
Slimy Expulsion Boots and the toxified patch are what we use both our embellishment slots on, right? Or have I misunderstood how they work.
correct
Cool. At least that's only one major craft this patch I guess!
but sepsis garrote is empowered by improved garrote ya? so its +50% damage but no extra cps
A /cast Mutilate macro should stop my mutilate turning into ambush when I have sepsis right?
So I don't waste the stealth usage
fixing your stealth bars would do that aswell
Just like the devs, abandoned Exsang
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It was 5 weeks 2 weeks ago. I thought
june 13th p sure
What the fuck
can i macro the bomb dispenser trinket to like mutilate? how does the "extra assembly" work? does it just give you automatically +1 charge when you crit 60 times or do you have channel to make one or something?
Sure, put it in the top trinket slot and make this macro:
#showtooltip Mutilate
/cast Mutilate
/use 13
/script UIErrorsFrame:Hide()
It's all instant and the extra charge stacks are tracked on a buff, I can tell you've been traumatized by box / torch but bomb won't hurt you... You can open your heart again. ❤️
got finally rid of puzzle box with this one
I should call her


All of them if you want
Hmm
Bomb dispenser is our friend, friendship with puzzlebox ended or whatever
hold on
lemme cook
Same
[Bomb/drogbar crit] trinket combo was within margin of my [puzzle box / torch]. Going to passive Trinkets was such an amazing switch.

Hear me out though
Puzzlebox channel gives me just enough time to start blasting my raid playlist for when I do giga execute damage
Puzzlebox ended on raz cuz we needed grieftorches on adds. Its been a long while. Ive retired it to my bank to hold onto for memories.
it feels so weird playing with eranog ring without the shadowflame enchant. it does 300k damage across a whole dungeon but sim says sophic is better. that ring in m+ sucks so ass
I wish
I vendored the shit out of it
first chance I got
how does dragonfire bomb perform at m+?
what ilvl do u get from token tier sets?
i find it really underwhelming
Please could you suggest me what i should do, so basically i want that bis neck but head tier dropped, (i alrdy have legs tier) so i was wondering if i should take the neck and then buy 2nd tier set with tokens????
or should i just grab the helm right away and hope for neck drop in the next clears
Heroic ilvl
🥓 beacon > 💣 bomb
You’ll eventually do harder and harder content, tbh the team role would be to take the helm and help close the zenith out
Roger
Also regarding tokens, how many can you get totally?
Since there is 3 ways to earn it , do u get 3? Or 1 limit max
The Omni token? 1
Meh i dont raid mythic this tier homie
Yea
Im just gonna clear hcs and push high keys
Aight thnx
once you get aotc or 2k m+ rating you get a free heroic tier piece
So basically its just ”3” ways of getting 1 omni token
Ye
also last boss drops separate omni tokens as well
Gotcha guys thnx

Oh lol
so in theory you could kill heroic sark and get the one from the achieve + loot one from the boss
Nice
yeah it's super nice this time around
Btw is zerocool in this discord?
Hey mates i've lost the sepsis opener/rotation, someone help ?
Check pinned
was in a link yay ty !
+1
So u mean i get 2 from it? Damn, I guess he only gives extra token 1st kill right?
Sorry i fell asleep.
I did added that functionallity in the last update, try reimporting and check it out 🙂
yeah once you get the aotc achievement or hit 2k you get 1 heroic omni token
and the boss itself drops an omni token as well
so in theory you can get 2 tier pieces from 1 kill
I believe sark drops 1 omni token for every 10 people in the raid on heroic
so if you're in a 30 man group, he'll drop 3 omni tokens
Ahaa okey
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Both our priests got one last night
Bout to off myself sitting at 3p

Was N optional night so not really prio on those. It’s H into M tonight so surely I get my last piece
If warlock and Druid tokens don’t keep dropping that is
For normal it’s free roll idk I don’t make the rules


Anyone not a huge fan of double on use? what is your ideal passive trinket for this tier? Nels call?
guys
if i got only 2 tier sets, should i split those to with the season 1 tier sets?
so i have (2) active on both
or keep (4) on s1?
ok nice ty
depends on the ilvl gain entirely
so the sim would give you the correct answer in that regard
essentially you'd need enough of an ilvl gain to offset losing the 4pc from last season
im only 423 😦 but will do that
i think theres a pi input for raidbots? anyone has that?
external_buffs.power_infusion=0/120/240/360
You can adjust timings however
do i put that in the custom apl right?
yap
tyy

!
if you ever want to see what PI does for assassination by default whispyr put in the backstop
so bloodmallet's PI chart will have the 0/120/240/360 timing on it
probably not talking much to gain if i swap them few seconds back right?
yeah
esp if you're playing exsang
having PI timed right before you exsang is kinda huge
When you can maximize it with your CDs instead of free balling the first 5ksh seconds
iirc if its 6/126... its better no?
6/126 is what I always got the best bang on
last time I simmed PI I believe the 7/127 profile was best for me
but when you're competing against this:

ye but im a medium guild so im getting pi while doing nm/hc lol
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Is there a way of easily telling in a weakaura whether a garrote was applied with the stealth buff or not?
So when is it correct to drop cowl for shadowflame weapon enchant?
I think you also need the trinket from zskarn (and slimy boots to replace the embellishment)
Ah gotcha, I dropped neck for boots so I’m guessing bomb dispenser then swap for patch
If you press a blindside proc ambush w/ the sepsis use stealth ability buff, does it consume the sepsis buff or just blindside?
Blindside
Sepsis stays if both are up, the blindside proc takes prio
Got it, thanks! Was worried I was accidentally using the sepsis buff in my opener when blindside proc and overwriting with an unbuffed garrote.
you gotta put in the new apl whispyr put together for it to show real stonks
Sespsis no exsang is actually simming higher than the sepsis with exsang/cttc in whispyr's sheet somehow
idk how to do this lol
slap it at the bottom in this field
What are you doing stepsis
@gusty mirage anvil is bugged btw
sometimes you have to relog when you enter raid in order for it to do any passive damage
otherwise it only does active damage
idk if thats worth pinning
yeah idk
anvil wouldn't really go to rogue anyway
its better for strength users it seems
Got 2 daggers from raid cause I’m the only one who can use agi daggers, I’m about to go sin just for stepsis
I think we gave it to dh and rogue yeaterday
in this Sepsis build, we swap Exsanguinate for an additional Shiv charge?
stepsis rotation is much smoother
Stepsis always gets stuck somewhere though
well i have better openings atm with stepsis but i lack of experience in the end
holy frick sin is UPP
exsanguinate appears so slow pace and one button centric when you tried sepsis imo^^
I’m here
I was gonna ask where
came from

I wanted to steal it
the cttc sepsis exsang feels nice!!



Do I press blindside procs even if I'm overcapping on energy?
Does Sepsis make your next Garrote a stealth Garrote?
Quick question; I have hands, legs, head tier. and I have a token. I should get chest, aye?
Bigger main stat. Similar direct upgrade ilvl wise (shoulder vs chest)
Yes, if the other option is Mut. Holding blindside for a sec to burn energy if you already need to cast Gar or shiv or something isn't a problem
It gives imp Gar effect if you take that talent, but not 3 sec worth. Just on that single Gar
Thank you so much!
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are these good?
Jesus
lmfao
De bait Damn
any talent changes wrom 2/2 piece to 4p
how would playing around sepsis change my itemization? it's simming a lot lower for me than the sbs/exsang build. im also 4/4 of the old set, should i assume that's what's getting my stepsis stuck under the sbs build?
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so with exsang sepsis we just press exsang after sepsis, everything else is the same?
you dont play exsang sepsis
or i will release you from this suffering
anvil good single target?
It’s ok
sepsis so nice
time to put in practice the TECH
but when is kb back?
Envenoms during dm/shiv are good
yea but you can put in on cd faster
if you do er mut you get 5cp guaranteed
or nvm
I CANT COUNT
!!!
but still
probably within margin of error...
my neurons activate when putting things on cd
One two three four five
random question, is wafting devotion the go to for our OH? (saw it on the sim in the whisp sheet)
It’s very minor
I honestly doubt anyone will see a gain simming it
I had to crank up the accuracy on the sim because it was just within margin constantly
I see, thank you for the answer. I'll keep using sophic anyway and use that as a copium for my underperformances
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Is assa better than sub for M+ this patch?
No
Yes, unless you considered damage... Then it is not.
Did they fix the sophic stacking?
What was broken about it
Uhhh I may be dreaming this but I remember there being an issue where having two enchanted sophics would proc individual buffs, so instead of extending an active it would overlay it
How is my rotation with 4p now? Sepsis before or after DM?
aww man the raid horn dropped last night and the tooltip looked so bad i gave it away
and it's actually a 1.5% upgrade over the whetstone so i could have finally put something on this season
i'm like +5 ilvl in bags but everything i've picked up is minus dps because of it breaking the set or being in a... "curious" slot
Have 2 sophic enchants doubles the proc’s effect, has nothing to do with proc rate
how much is 2pc+2pc around 8%? (cant read the sims well sorry)
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1V4nQ8ESTeb3R3tgPXkiAW
probably shit comparison since my gear kinda sucks, but its around 200dps for me
1200 dps for me. LOGIN
Good stuff
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why doesnt ct add to ct damage like starfall does 😠
I ALONE
Because then it would be the only button we press in aoe and our rotation would end up being identical to subtlety
hey we might have to fok twice in between if we don't crit 
enven in aoe is just a lil sad
i'm using ruby whelp shell and whispering incarnate icon both 421. 😄
sameee
no bacon for me yet
have the crit/mast ring from neltharus though, so swapped out eggnog/cowl for slimy at least
got fat logs today though thanks to @balmy condor (im right next to him sleeping rn)
oh he is not sleeping
fuck!
Tis
seems perfect sleeper time

🛌
yeah, today new rotation worked for me. got a few 99% in heroic.
still 0 tier pieces 
lariat replacement 
lfg
Factually incorrect actually
I skipped a day every week for the last 3 weeks
You sleep most days
But I won’t tell you which
youre so stupid
I know one of the days
And that’s it
ever!
That’s the point yeah

how do you rate assa vs sub in the raid ? which is easier / which is more reliable ? does sub wins on last 2 bosses cuz the adds
🤔
for overall dps, yea
Idk how hard neltharion is on mythic in the last phase, but sarkareth execute seems pretty good
i doubt aoe is gonna be something you need
depends if you need dps in p1 and p2 for pushing aswell
to skip mechanics
or you mean hc?!
usually if you are not in a super top guild you are so geared at that point that the boss dps / execute feels more important imo
i mean mythic only ye
the adds on sarkareth dont do much and can be stopped
so the dmg on them isnt very important
cuz ive tried both and so far cant decide in which to invest more "items" in
feels close esp on ST Bosses
mell. a. tonin. 🙂
Pog
can anyone here flame my logs constructively ?
i know i'm doing something (or alot of them) wrong but I can't pinpoint a starting point to check.
So, I'm still sitting on a zero-piece set. should I just be doing my neck-head-flame ring embelishments or should I switch to boots/toxic now?
you reapplied first garrote slightly too fast(opener isnt perfect).
you do envenom ambush envenom which makes no sense
didnt reapply 3rd garrote from sepsis
and thats just the first ~35 seconds
embellishments are not connected to tier at all
used tea randomly and not in shiv
i see a cheapshot in there
your grieftorch is 32 seconds in
oh nvm thats cause you play double on use
tea + shiv!!!
always tea + shiv ?
Is the forbidden reach ring no longer bis?
Looking at whispyrs sims he doesnt have it on
but else, thanks for the wonderfull checklist, i'll see about that !
can probably find more but im not good at reading logs
still a good starting point, so i'll make do with that.
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Is there a place where the sepsis build is shown? Wanted to try and sim it to my profile but cant get a build anywhere
(i might be blind)
nevermind just answered my own question opening the link above
personally i prefer my dargrul drip 
got insanely lucky, the week that i'd want to replace lariat with boots, boom 447 crit mast neck in the vault
chef's kiss
stepsis transition was very chill
hobo talents no more
no tier no bomba. as long as a couple people die so i get grieftorch resets numbers still gud
he said "i see a cheapshot in there"
i honestly have no clue which of my macros fucked up to press a cheap shot

maybe 1 or 2 for energy then just pump boss
Brother I skimmed
or just ignore them they should all die so fast that there's no real point
but i use all my 3 sbs charges on them atleast?
and FoK to cleave
i mean you could
if they're all alive, fanning is probably a better builder
if you still have 3 sbs charges sitting around you could throw them out
I just ignore them tbh
i usually 2-3 sbs then rupture on that cps gain, then garrote another and 1cp rupture, then i just fok and pump boss
is it good decision
Depends on add death speed too. If they’re getting clapped and you force one in - it could munch a charge if it never connects
yeah i mean they should pretty much die instantly in a decent group
if i had extra sbs i'd toss them out
otherwise i'd just tunnel the boss
especially the first set
your 2m CDs should be coming up
so you should just full ignore the adds and just blast the boss
make sure you get your burst correct
2nd set if you have sbs to spare toss em out i guess
or throw a rupture when they spawn if you have cp for it
but i wouldn't try to min/max adds that much
if they're all alive, fan as a builder is probably good
i just run the same shit as last season man
nothing wrong w it
still blasting
i tried ap in few low keys, but when its a 20 you just need to keep up on adds. especially the 5-6 packs after 3rd boss are really awkward with ap
i only play IC on VP now
is not doing VP one of your options?
I just switch to sub for aoe...
That’s my shadowblade
All my homies hate vp
I love being perma zoned off of the first 3 pulls

Somebody told me to put toxic patch in wrist, it doesn't really matter where it goes right? Helm or wrist?
helm gonna suck longterm because you want tset helm
If you multispec prob wrist
I’d say belt or wrist
gotcha thanks guys
lol
@balmy condor is the custom apl for sepsis in already or where do I even find it
can yoink from the sim
That dungeon gonna get nerfs for sure. it's a dead key
Int? 🤔Translate for the old folks pls 🤣
I think he/she meant intentionally feeding/inting/int. Meaning that your re trolling by doing keys at start of the week.
I might be inting tho 😛
VP is kinda fine now though?
Only thing thats a bit rough is the pack right before the last boss with two executors
Good lord sin sims went up a lot
Sepsis exsang Jesus fuck
What is this cursed shit y'all been cooking
it was all me

whispyr has delivered us to the promised land
yeah the only wonky thing that'll throw you off
is you hold vanish
until 2nd deathmark
Guessingots of value from deep farm stuff
Prob a sub angle till farn
Farm holy I can English
can prolly bust it out on a heroic reclear
to get used to it
won't take more than a boss or two I think
it's significantly less brain power than sbs exsang shit we had to deal with before
I mean moreso that the build seems like lots of value from cloak and vault fragment
the sepsis gameplay feels so smooth imo

it beats sbs handedly for me and I don't have the cloak
exsang damaged us so hard
Relative to sub I mean
is stepsis really easier
Weird that the sim sends mut after sepsis before garrote?
shucks, I was looking for the sepsis rotation will that be updated soon?
love my little picture rotation thingies
nvm big blind
Is there a way to show the additional deathmark bleeds as stacks on Plater?
Instead of separate debuffs.
does it really? I've gotten SBS down like clockwork and i dont like change i've been nervous to swap lol
ye, same here
So regarding all 5 tier slots
but took like 7-8 pulls and now im gucci
and replace it with just a regular raid/m+ head gear?
or is there any crafting stuff again xD
oki ty
beat you @storm belfry https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/u2ch8sXmJHVJd86rh2E4jh
man
Cant get 4p to sim higher lmao
its so crazy how strong borrowed power is right now
based and poison pilled
but they said they remove it
🙂

you see
tier sets are no borrowed power
You'll do fine
torghast was borrowed power
why? cus im the average wow player that says words without any meanings
🙂
LOL
You see the exploit chinese players have been doing with torgh?
i STILL dont understand where that "omg borrowed power RUINS the game!!!" take came from during fucking SHADOWLANDS
like
WHERE????
hot damn
Its been fun so far though.... fights are fun and we're performing relatively well
even though my vault was okey-ish, the bracers are not good but better what the rest was
but been a pretty lucky reset
@tacit otter i gotta wait the 2 weeks to get my toxic patch
big sad
hoping for mythic dagger tomorrow
And some M+ stuff
same
i wanted to craft on bracers but bracers in vault so sadge, even tho i gotta 437 waist with avoidance
I do feel like i'll be playing sin at some point so i dont want to craft on helm
But i dunno
Wrist are what im leaning towards too
some guy few days ago talked about chest with toxified and thats an angle i will approach aswell in 2 weeks
sounds great having 447 chest bis stats
ye i only play sin so not that difficult for me to decide^^
Heard that
Im an equal opportunity rogue
so i play w/e
wonder how bad tier helm is for OL
when do i exang w this sepsis tech
you dont
You un talent it
but its in the sim
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i played exsang sepsis today and it went quite well on the first few hc
Double shiv
i nabbed the one from the top
hm
let me sim that
it may not be good cause no 4p
Check the sim i sent you
Ohhh
Prob still it should be
Was simming higher for me before even 2p
Whats wrong with sepsis and exsang 
it has exsang
but its 1k ahead in sims so easy decision
Aint that the truth
for me atleast
allright, serious answer: im 100%convinced that exsang is almost simbait for most players, simply because its an ability that is not easy to actually play perfectly(espacily when a fight goes on for longer) and then it just crumbles HARD
and when you get a short brainfart or fatfinger and use it at a bad time, its fucking you hard
I mean u could make the argument about any cd that has a specific time to use it
except that exsang has more then "use at specific time"
If u send deathmark when u have no bleeds up it aint gon do much
its actually quite nice having something for 3 min exsang when the killtime is shorter, the linup feels good. idk if its numerical relevant
its "use at specific time, and have your dots at the max duration before you use it, but dont overwrite the good dots you had early to fast, and let the dots then run out"
@royal lantern man of the people
if 1 of those things is slightly missed? allready going into the negative
TLDR exsang is a shit button and you'll prob perform higher not taking it than taking it even if it sims 1% higher
Most people playing outlaw would do more damage if they just stacked mastery and vers as they award u damage passively without having to work for it
But the people dont wanna hear it
hello habibicieft
mate, 99% of outlawbrains still think mastery is a ussules stat for them lol
Hello darling
Dude ngl stacking mastery as outlaw is a fucking genius move if youre average/bad
Its literally free damage from just hitting the boss
Hardly drs with bad play
Like every other stat
Only stat in the game that just gives u damage for staying in a mobs hitbox
@vestal wren just to let you stupid nickpick but for sin's sim sheet you put silent star drops from vortex
Haste. Crit. Agi. Vers.
All do that
U have to work for those stats tho
U need to press abilities for them to be able to crit
And scale off vers
U need to spend energy to get more value out of haste

Mastery u just chill
huh
you also need to apply bleeds to get value out of haste
And damage happens
rules?
serious question, who would win
Sub funnel, mastery bad for outlaw, assa does damage without uptime
outlaw or assa
The legends remain
windfury?
Some Outlaw player is gonna turn up post key with a 20min SnD and body everyone else.
sub or assassination
Sin probably does way more auto dmg
Nah im telling u
With double poison it's not close
Full mastery outlaw fucks on assa
don herbo is overloading
Main gauche hitting for 70k
its simming 3k less for me
Fucking right lets get it on

RIP
My dearest sir, this seem to be a somewhat cursed emoticon
and also
Who you fuckin on him tho?
Cutie
Does sepsis build devalue irideus frag since you don't get the huge exsang dmark? It must
Assuming you drop exsang ofc
Frag still pretty big with sepsis
Yeah? Alright. Still sync with dmarks though?
Exsang is still a slight increase but fuck that noise

you have to pay extra for that
does evasion work if your backs turned?
He hates me
no
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Where can I find a link on slime boots/thorns oversimming? At work and on mobile, asking for the other leather folks in my team
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I can say the same
Also to you and also quake

Soon bb
im taking an alcohol break today
Cleared H and all that fucking drops is priest tier
Like triple
On almost every boss
unfortunate
That’s good. I have beer in my fridge for almost 3 weeks I haven’t finished lmao. Like 14 cans
But I got it for free so no loss really
Bro wow Lmao
Isnt it tho?
2.5min
Yo what a based details name. Yung Tuna
my details name is C Tier
RIP Sin was before C Tier
Fuck yeah
People love to talk shit during raid nights and i just respond... Cant hear you from this high on the meters bub
Had a ret pali talking shit and i made a comment yesterday and now he wants to play War LMAOOOOOO


sorry to bother you but how is the builde spesis played please? @gusty mirage
little late
mine is dollarstore jpc
My assassination dps is so low man. Dead last. Is there a new rotation people are using now? I’m 420 with 2 set. Just following wowheads rotation for ST raiding
Please don’t tell me try Sub
Do we have a opener breakdown for sepsis without puzzle box? It feels weird not using it anymore
@gusty mirageevery fight i see you top 10.
What happened on echo of neltharion 
!fuu
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which difficulty
nah we did normal reclear for trinkets
thats why I asked
I was getting obliterated by ranged
while I was trying to break out the add

I even got CC'd at one point
I swear other players are actively trying to kill me
i just run out of group in advance when add about to come out, so i can shadowstep before CCs
since realz left both here and felhammer, you guys think he left blizzard or just were told to leave servers or something?
Whats a good set slot to leave open? Head again?
Another rank 1 boyssss, holding it down for The Sin, Amalg✔️
I think he escaped to a tax haven in the Bahamas
Yes
psst
It’s my fault. I accidentally doxxed him on jpcs stream
I’m joking. James had their bench group showing and realz was like omg they’re hacking 23 people in the raid, someone tell blizzard. And I said, don’t you work at blizzard? And then oxi told me to stop doxxing
Oh right you were
I blame myself
I blame myself for thinking I’m funny when I’m not
Think we need someone to make a nice solid assa guide on YouTube
while that would be a good resource, it'd also be a giant pain in the ass to make and then repeatedly update
you'll get tens of views 
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what we binding dragon bomb to, envenom?
yes
cool ty
i got it on envenom. but i still sometimes smash it and put grieftorch on CD 😦
where do I find the new sepsis+exsang opener?

Finally got my 2 piece!
I got my two piece in theory
💃
True
if I know that im only gonna get 2 deathmarks in a fight is it a good idea to wait for neltharions call to proc before using it?
You guys getting tier pieces? 😮
Did u find it cause I did not lol
yeah i have 4p and the trinket
lol its dropped both weeks on heroic for our guilld
rather be lucky than good
No sepsis + exsang opener
Because I ain’t gonna waste my time optimizing it
Just copy sims and it’s good enough
whispyr pissed that he found new stepsis tech
everyone throw dungeon parses at him with sepsis next 
I’m not pissed
It’s just
An assfuckton of time
Optimizing exsang
And eliminating all the edge cases
optimize it out of the game please blizz
And the rotation itself is already sorta ridiculous
Plus I can only assume exsang changes in 10.1.5

So the payoff is
Do I spend 10ish hours optimizing exsang
For the next 2 months
And then they change exsang
And all the exsang logic gets dumpstered
That’s not worth it in my head
my head hurts just trying to get my UI to not hate sepsis atm. I wouldn't wish that upon you whispyr 😛
I’m already way behind on guide updates 
god im sure you have a million questions a day about
"why is this part of the guide not exactly how its supposed to be based on something you found out yesterday"
It’s actually worse than that, I still recommend the embellished shoulders and there’s 0 mention of sepsis anywhere 
And I mean it’s fine for the average heroic raider
lol had to tell someone the other day that the shoulders are not what you want anymore
"but the assa guide says they're bis"
Yeah….
I keep coping that the core demographic won’t care
Because they don’t sim
But there’s a large portion of even mythic raiders
That read the guide looking for the most min-max info
And it’s just… idk
I understand it
But I have to reach a balance
lol yeah when you're at a certain level with a spec you should know whats in the guides already
so the guides should be written for normal/heroic raiders tbh
And that’s usually what I do
anything past that you can usually glean for yourself or ask someone about the fringe scenarios
But then people get upset on the other side when it’s not suggesting the top 0.2% build
And I’m like
Idk man
I’m not gonna tell a normal raider to play no cttc exsang sepsis
It’s just not happening
esp when if the top 0.2% is no cttc exsang sepsis lol
you will do more damage running a normal build i promise you
and all it takes is you forgetting about snd for a little bit or doing an exsang window slightly wrong to now just be worse than usual
is it important to keep elaborate planning up for deathmark?
just thinking about how awful specs would be if you had to play around every passive buff like that
is there any other tools like wow analyzer that can help me figure out what I can improve on?
So you admit to mislead normal raiders to preserve your ranking 
wowanalyzer is working for assassination, but besides that best bet is just to log a fight or two and bring it in here and people can help you out
Yeah you got me red handed
I know I can’t compete with normal raiders
So I have to sandbag the guides
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KZBRmGWJfApLTX4D#fight=20&type=damage-done please explain what wrong with me cuz wow analyzer seems to say i good... I think
Well for starters, that kill time is very long. almost double than my kill time.
next, you're 420ilvl
how tf do you kill zaqali assault in 50 seconds
man, don't trigger whispyr, let the poor lad be :<
BIG NUMBERS, thats how
Lust on pull
Crank hard
doesnt the boss hard phase when hes like half hp
I see a bunch of sub-30 second pulls on normal XD
He phases on 25 seconds
And if you get him to 25%, he heals
Or something like that
You can look at our kill
just zerg harder than his heal cast-time
Also don’t play the build I played
Just
Don’t do it
Don’t ask
Don’t speak of it
immediately looks at this build
😂 "we don't talk about this"
aha! we knew you were holding out on us!!!
just curious, why do you think your damage is bad
its almost like your sims say that exsang sepsis is slightly bigger numbers but bigger headache too
Yeah
yooooo
Normal was the cursed one
btw, as far as openers go, I'm just sticking berserking racial where puzzlebox would be, and exsang before deathmark and geegee
@normal olive would appreciate that opener
pool vanish for DM + vanish combo, be done with it, remove exsang build next patch, whispyr happy
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ive feelycrafted a new opener it feels epic 
Nice
mostly cuz its much lower than it simms on a similar length fight with the same buffs and items











