#assassination

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exotic hazel
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I'm never touching exang again

gusty mirage
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All the homies hate exsang

eternal vortex
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ye fuck exang

exotic hazel
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Besides using IC, is dumping combo points into CT the right move in 4+ targets?

gusty mirage
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You want the short answer?

exotic hazel
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Give me the essay

gusty mirage
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As long as you’re maintaining snd through envenom and the CT bleed

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It doesn’t matter either way

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Envenom, CT

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Legit the same

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Lmao

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Could high roll poison bomb procs

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So could fish for those ig

exotic hazel
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So basically get your bleeds up and get spinning the plates

gusty mirage
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Yeppers

exotic hazel
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And CT/Envenom doesn't matter either way

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Nice

gusty mirage
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As long as your bleeds are rolling you’re free to envenom or CT

exotic hazel
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😭

gusty mirage
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It’s so depressing tbh

eternal vortex
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i think i havent touched assa in m+ since s1 start

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i only play assa in raid

gusty mirage
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Don’t let quake read this

drifting cosmos
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That’s what most ppl do

gusty mirage
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You’ll hurt his feelings

eternal vortex
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no but like legit there is no chance assa worth anything there, other classes just giga burst the shit out of packs

gusty mirage
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It’s nice in some niche cases where you’re short on interrupts

eternal vortex
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maybe if we had an aoe exang or something but otherwise its dog

gusty mirage
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But yeah the damage is kinda poo poo

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Plus FOKing in mass aoe and getting 1-2cp is not very fun

crimson venture
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Just checked it vs an Icon and the damage increase was disappointing to say the least.

gusty mirage
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Because icon with full buffs is kinda giga

storm belfry
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My icon in the dumps

crimson venture
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I'll check

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Ye i was lol

pseudo hamlet
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I assume we always use Irideus Fragment with Deathmark?

spice spire
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Yes

clever sapphire
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wait what did whispyr cook that we now take exsang with sepsis

eternal vortex
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u can just not use it like ill do cuz i dont care about 1% OkayChamp

clever sapphire
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comes down to the playstyle

pseudo hamlet
eternal vortex
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i mean the opener for a lot of classes/specs are like a puzzle ngl

crimson venture
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Nothing better than hitting puzzle -> exsang -> dm in execute

clever sapphire
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im so used to exsang opener by now, that if its even remotely close to the exsang playstyle with sbs im down

sturdy valve
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
minor gate
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alright people take your bets

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what we getting from vault

drifting cloud
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an epic item

minor gate
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you have too much faith

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hand it over

eternal vortex
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gettin dog items like i did Okayge

royal lantern
minor gate
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if my only tier option is hands im gonna cry

agile osprey
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Is there a straightforward answer to what embellishments we should be running? Or is it still being evaluated?

minor gate
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might have to wait out this one

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i know as a fact though that if i dont choose fragment now ill never see it again

agile osprey
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I mean its not at max ilvl and you can just farm that out

minor gate
agile osprey
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I mean true, first round of legion tw I was the chump who ran VotW 200 times without getting faulty countermeasure

storm belfry
minor gate
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fragment won out

storm belfry
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Ofc it did

modest glen
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How is the opener with exsang and sepsis? same as before just swap sbs for sepsis or?

clever sapphire
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Legit no idea, im just waiting for a new pin

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Until than im not using exsang with sepsis

spice spire
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It’s in the pins tho

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Go to the sepsis post

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And he goes very in depth with it

clever sapphire
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did he do it with exsang already too?

spice spire
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You don’t run Exsang with it

clever sapphire
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im pretty sure he mentioned in that post that he wont go into the exsang part

spice spire
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I mean you can

clever sapphire
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yes you do

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he did some weird shittery magic and now exsang sepsis sims highest

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with cttc

spice spire
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Missed lore ICANT

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Mad lad

clever sapphire
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ye

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so now im waiting for his new magical post

spice spire
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It looks like it’s a similar opener just sepsis instead, and not using vanish on opener

clever sapphire
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dunno, im not raiding for a while now anyways

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so i have time until the new post arrives

autumn frost
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
gilded seal
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so with the new sepsis tech and reading the writeup, do we not have an empowered garrote to cover the third DM?

royal lantern
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you keep vanish for dm

gilded seal
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for the second half of the second DM correct?

proper tapir
heavy vessel
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am I missing something or is sepsis and sepsis empowered garrote not tracked in wowanalyzer? Is there a way to see total uptime on empowered garrotes in wowlogs?

stiff geode
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Would you guys pick 3/5 Hero gloves now and wait for catalyst or take a 0.7% upgrade from a 2/5 Hero cloak? 🤔

subtle tundra
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catalyst is in 5 weeks

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you dont wait for it

stiff geode
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Yeeeah, that'll be future me problem, screw that guy.

subtle tundra
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it wont be a problem

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you will get enough gear by then

orchid hemlock
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Is sepsis and shrouded suff bugged or does using garrote with them should give 1 cp instead of 3?

gusty mirage
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sepsis garrote does not give the bonus cp from shrouded

pine grove
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Slimy Expulsion Boots and the toxified patch are what we use both our embellishment slots on, right? Or have I misunderstood how they work.

gusty mirage
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correct

pine grove
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Cool. At least that's only one major craft this patch I guess!

heavy vessel
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but sepsis garrote is empowered by improved garrote ya? so its +50% damage but no extra cps

sweet dawn
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A /cast Mutilate macro should stop my mutilate turning into ambush when I have sepsis right?

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So I don't waste the stealth usage

woeful meteor
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fixing your stealth bars would do that aswell

steel ridge
rain oyster
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
storm belfry
gusty mirage
storm belfry
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What the fuck

manic quartz
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can i macro the bomb dispenser trinket to like mutilate? how does the "extra assembly" work? does it just give you automatically +1 charge when you crit 60 times or do you have channel to make one or something?

proper tapir
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It's all instant and the extra charge stacks are tracked on a buff, I can tell you've been traumatized by box / torch but bomb won't hurt you... You can open your heart again. ❤️

manic quartz
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got finally rid of puzzle box with this one

storm belfry
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Is macro to mutilate really the play?

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Or is envenom a good option too

storm belfry
spice spire
proper tapir
storm belfry
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Hmm

spice spire
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Bomb dispenser is our friend, friendship with puzzlebox ended or whatever

storm belfry
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I still have box sadly

spice spire
proper tapir
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[Bomb/drogbar crit] trinket combo was within margin of my [puzzle box / torch]. Going to passive Trinkets was such an amazing switch.

spice spire
gusty mirage
agile osprey
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Hear me out though

spice spire
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BANGER

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This is what we needed

agile osprey
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Puzzlebox channel gives me just enough time to start blasting my raid playlist for when I do giga execute damage

pure moth
tacit otter
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it feels so weird playing with eranog ring without the shadowflame enchant. it does 300k damage across a whole dungeon but sim says sophic is better. that ring in m+ sucks so ass

spice spire
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I wish

gusty mirage
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first chance I got

earnest cradle
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how does dragonfire bomb perform at m+?

undone eagle
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what ilvl do u get from token tier sets?

tacit otter
undone eagle
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Please could you suggest me what i should do, so basically i want that bis neck but head tier dropped, (i alrdy have legs tier) so i was wondering if i should take the neck and then buy 2nd tier set with tokens????

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or should i just grab the helm right away and hope for neck drop in the next clears

storm belfry
vestal wren
spice spire
gusty mirage
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dw

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I'm already a bacon believer

undone eagle
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Also regarding tokens, how many can you get totally?

spice spire
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Also assault on mythic is gonna be easy

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So you’ll probably get that soon too

undone eagle
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Since there is 3 ways to earn it , do u get 3? Or 1 limit max

spice spire
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The Omni token? 1

undone eagle
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Meh i dont raid mythic this tier homie

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Yea

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Im just gonna clear hcs and push high keys

undone eagle
gusty mirage
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once you get aotc or 2k m+ rating you get a free heroic tier piece

undone eagle
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So basically its just ”3” ways of getting 1 omni token

spice spire
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Ye

gusty mirage
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also last boss drops separate omni tokens as well

undone eagle
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Gotcha guys thnx

spice spire
undone eagle
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Oh lol

gusty mirage
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so in theory you could kill heroic sark and get the one from the achieve + loot one from the boss

undone eagle
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Nice

gusty mirage
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yeah it's super nice this time around

undone eagle
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Btw is zerocool in this discord?

gusty mirage
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vs previous tiers where it kinda felt meh to get aotc

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he is

brazen lagoon
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Hey mates i've lost the sepsis opener/rotation, someone help ?

brazen lagoon
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was in a link yay ty !

undone eagle
gaunt moat
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Sorry i fell asleep.
I did added that functionallity in the last update, try reimporting and check it out 🙂

gusty mirage
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and the boss itself drops an omni token as well

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so in theory you can get 2 tier pieces from 1 kill

undone eagle
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Is it 100% drop? 😄

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Freaking dope 👌🏻

gusty mirage
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I believe sark drops 1 omni token for every 10 people in the raid on heroic

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so if you're in a 30 man group, he'll drop 3 omni tokens

undone eagle
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Ahaa okey

late surge
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
storm belfry
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Bout to off myself sitting at 3p

gusty mirage
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why didn't they trade it

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so you could finish 4pc

storm belfry
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Was N optional night so not really prio on those. It’s H into M tonight so surely I get my last piece

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If warlock and Druid tokens don’t keep dropping that is

gusty mirage
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wdym not prio

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finishing your 4pc is pretty prio my dude

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lol

storm belfry
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For normal it’s free roll idk I don’t make the rules

gusty mirage
subtle tundra
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tier is always with prio

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HUH

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ilvl dont matter

storm belfry
gray hazel
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Anyone not a huge fan of double on use? what is your ideal passive trinket for this tier? Nels call?

undone eagle
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guys

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if i got only 2 tier sets, should i split those to with the season 1 tier sets?

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so i have (2) active on both

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or keep (4) on s1?

storm belfry
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Yes

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I mean sim yourself

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But it’ll likely be higher. Mine was. I’m 2p + 2p rn

undone eagle
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ok nice ty

gusty mirage
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depends on the ilvl gain entirely

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so the sim would give you the correct answer in that regard

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essentially you'd need enough of an ilvl gain to offset losing the 4pc from last season

undone eagle
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im only 423 😦 but will do that

gusty mirage
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you got this

tacit otter
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i think theres a pi input for raidbots? anyone has that?

spice spire
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You can adjust timings however

tacit otter
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do i put that in the custom apl right?

gusty mirage
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yap

tacit otter
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tyy

gusty mirage
brazen zodiac
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!

gusty mirage
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if you ever want to see what PI does for assassination by default whispyr put in the backstop

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so bloodmallet's PI chart will have the 0/120/240/360 timing on it

tacit otter
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probably not talking much to gain if i swap them few seconds back right?

spice spire
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Uh

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You’d be amazed

gusty mirage
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yeah

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esp if you're playing exsang

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having PI timed right before you exsang is kinda huge

spice spire
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When you can maximize it with your CDs instead of free balling the first 5ksh seconds

tacit otter
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iirc if its 6/126... its better no?

spice spire
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6/126 is what I always got the best bang on

gusty mirage
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last time I simmed PI I believe the 7/127 profile was best for me

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but when you're competing against this:

tacit otter
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ye but im a medium guild so im getting pi while doing nm/hc lol

shrewd plover
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
tardy oak
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Is there a way of easily telling in a weakaura whether a garrote was applied with the stealth buff or not?

signal badger
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So when is it correct to drop cowl for shadowflame weapon enchant?

storm forum
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I think you also need the trinket from zskarn (and slimy boots to replace the embellishment)

signal badger
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Ah gotcha, I dropped neck for boots so I’m guessing bomb dispenser then swap for patch

sullen hollow
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i have 4pc

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and slimy+dagger

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and stepsis build sims

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10 dps over sbs

tulip dawn
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If you press a blindside proc ambush w/ the sepsis use stealth ability buff, does it consume the sepsis buff or just blindside?

frigid kestrel
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Sepsis stays if both are up, the blindside proc takes prio

tulip dawn
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Got it, thanks! Was worried I was accidentally using the sepsis buff in my opener when blindside proc and overwriting with an unbuffed garrote.

gusty mirage
flat kiln
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Sespsis no exsang is actually simming higher than the sepsis with exsang/cttc in whispyr's sheet somehow

gusty mirage
sullen hollow
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oh ok

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ez

weak horizon
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What are you doing stepsis

vapid sierra
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Lmao

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Surprisingly haven’t heard that before

ebon notch
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@gusty mirage anvil is bugged btw

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sometimes you have to relog when you enter raid in order for it to do any passive damage

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otherwise it only does active damage

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idk if thats worth pinning

gusty mirage
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yeah idk

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anvil wouldn't really go to rogue anyway

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its better for strength users it seems

ebon notch
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it really isnt that bad

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oh

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wait it differs?

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fair

gusty mirage
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idk

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sims very meh for me

civic edge
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Got 2 daggers from raid cause I’m the only one who can use agi daggers, I’m about to go sin just for stepsis

oak sky
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I think we gave it to dh and rogue yeaterday

agile heart
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in this Sepsis build, we swap Exsanguinate for an additional Shiv charge?

brazen lagoon
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stepsis rotation is much smoother

civic edge
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Stepsis always gets stuck somewhere though

brazen lagoon
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well i have better openings atm with stepsis but i lack of experience in the end

hollow vault
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holy frick sin is UPP

main vessel
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where's quake

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nvm

brazen lagoon
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exsanguinate appears so slow pace and one button centric when you tried sepsis imo^^

spice spire
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I’m here

main vessel
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I was gonna ask where insanecat came from

spice spire
main vessel
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I wanted to steal it

spice spire
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It’s a betterttv emote

hollow vault
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the cttc sepsis exsang feels nice!!

oak sky
storm belfry
hollow vault
spice spire
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The voices are winning guys

young briar
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stonks

lapis osprey
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Do I press blindside procs even if I'm overcapping on energy?

untold stirrup
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Does Sepsis make your next Garrote a stealth Garrote?

buoyant pilot
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Quick question; I have hands, legs, head tier. and I have a token. I should get chest, aye?

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Bigger main stat. Similar direct upgrade ilvl wise (shoulder vs chest)

proper tapir
proper tapir
pulsar ether
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
subtle tundra
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are these good?

balmy condor
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Jesus

sullen hollow
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lmfao

spice spire
fading mason
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any talent changes wrom 2/2 piece to 4p

fleet pagoda
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how would playing around sepsis change my itemization? it's simming a lot lower for me than the sbs/exsang build. im also 4/4 of the old set, should i assume that's what's getting my stepsis stuck under the sbs build?

clever sapphire
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
clever sapphire
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so with exsang sepsis we just press exsang after sepsis, everything else is the same?

shut owl
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loving the new sepsis lore

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time to tilt more folks by running sepsis in keys kek

royal lantern
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or i will release you from this suffering

shut owl
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wait? theres a new sepsis button?!?

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I gotta update from KB

trail mica
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anvil good single target?

balmy condor
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It’s ok

fading mason
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sepsis so nice

subtle tundra
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time to put in practice the TECH

fading mason
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but when is kb back?

subtle tundra
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i still dont understand why we echoing reprimand so late in the opener

balmy condor
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Envenoms during dm/shiv are good

subtle tundra
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yea but you can put in on cd faster

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if you do er mut you get 5cp guaranteed

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or nvm

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I CANT COUNT

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!!!

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but still

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probably within margin of error...

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my neurons activate when putting things on cd

storm belfry
fallow canopy
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random question, is wafting devotion the go to for our OH? (saw it on the sim in the whisp sheet)

balmy condor
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It’s very minor

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I honestly doubt anyone will see a gain simming it

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I had to crank up the accuracy on the sim because it was just within margin constantly

fallow canopy
vapid sierra
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what enchant do we put on slimy boots?

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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
ebon heath
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Is assa better than sub for M+ this patch?

spice spire
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No

proper tapir
wary ice
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Did they fix the sophic stacking?

balmy condor
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What was broken about it

wary ice
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Uhhh I may be dreaming this but I remember there being an issue where having two enchanted sophics would proc individual buffs, so instead of extending an active it would overlay it

hushed summit
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How is my rotation with 4p now? Sepsis before or after DM?

velvet nacelle
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aww man the raid horn dropped last night and the tooltip looked so bad i gave it away

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and it's actually a 1.5% upgrade over the whetstone so i could have finally put something on this season

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i'm like +5 ilvl in bags but everything i've picked up is minus dps because of it breaking the set or being in a... "curious" slot

balmy condor
pulsar dirge
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how much is 2pc+2pc around 8%? (cant read the sims well sorry)

spice spire
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1200 dps for me. LOGIN

balmy condor
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Good stuff

vapid sierra
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where is shrouded buff in the tree?

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found it

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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
hollow vault
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why doesnt ct add to ct damage like starfall does 😠

minor gate
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I ALONE

balmy condor
subtle tundra
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man can i get GEAR

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FUCK

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i still have torch/icon

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424 offhand

hollow vault
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enven in aoe is just a lil sad

somber sparrow
subtle tundra
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we've dropped 0 bomb dispensers

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so far

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fucking hell

hollow vault
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sameee

subtle tundra
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no bacon for me yet

hollow vault
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have the crit/mast ring from neltharus though, so swapped out eggnog/cowl for slimy at least

subtle tundra
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got fat logs today though thanks to @balmy condor (im right next to him sleeping rn)

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oh he is not sleeping

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fuck!

balmy condor
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When have I ever slept

subtle tundra
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well

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its midnight

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after some quick mathemathics

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its 2 pm for you

balmy condor
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Tis

subtle tundra
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seems perfect sleeper time

balmy condor
hollow vault
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🛌

gaunt moat
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yeah, today new rotation worked for me. got a few 99% in heroic.
still 0 tier pieces starege

royal lantern
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lariat replacement poggers

hollow vault
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lfg

spice spire
balmy condor
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I skipped a day every week for the last 3 weeks

spice spire
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You sleep most days

balmy condor
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But I won’t tell you which

subtle tundra
spice spire
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I know one of the days

subtle tundra
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you wont get back the sleep

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and rest

spice spire
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And that’s it

subtle tundra
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ever!

balmy condor
subtle tundra
slow tulip
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how do you rate assa vs sub in the raid ? which is easier / which is more reliable ? does sub wins on last 2 bosses cuz the adds

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🤔

subtle tundra
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for overall dps, yea
Idk how hard neltharion is on mythic in the last phase, but sarkareth execute seems pretty good

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i doubt aoe is gonna be something you need

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depends if you need dps in p1 and p2 for pushing aswell

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to skip mechanics

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or you mean hc?!

slow tulip
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usually if you are not in a super top guild you are so geared at that point that the boss dps / execute feels more important imo

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i mean mythic only ye

subtle tundra
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the adds on sarkareth dont do much and can be stopped

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so the dmg on them isnt very important

slow tulip
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cuz ive tried both and so far cant decide in which to invest more "items" in

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feels close esp on ST Bosses

somber sparrow
royal lantern
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going from 0 tier items to 3 in 1 raid and still have the omni token avaible

thorn fjord
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Pog

eager junco
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can anyone here flame my logs constructively ?

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i know i'm doing something (or alot of them) wrong but I can't pinpoint a starting point to check.

uncut dragon
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So, I'm still sitting on a zero-piece set. should I just be doing my neck-head-flame ring embelishments or should I switch to boots/toxic now?

subtle tundra
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and thats just the first ~35 seconds

balmy condor
subtle tundra
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used tea randomly and not in shiv
i see a cheapshot in there

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your grieftorch is 32 seconds in

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oh nvm thats cause you play double on use

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tea + shiv!!!

eager junco
maiden sierra
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Is the forbidden reach ring no longer bis?
Looking at whispyrs sims he doesnt have it on

eager junco
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but else, thanks for the wonderfull checklist, i'll see about that !

subtle tundra
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can probably find more but im not good at reading logs

eager junco
maiden sierra
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
rapid prism
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
normal mist
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Is there a place where the sepsis build is shown? Wanted to try and sim it to my profile but cant get a build anywhere

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(i might be blind)

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nevermind just answered my own question opening the link above

night delta
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got insanely lucky, the week that i'd want to replace lariat with boots, boom 447 crit mast neck in the vault

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chef's kiss

keen spruce
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stepsis transition was very chill

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hobo talents no more

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no tier no bomba. as long as a couple people die so i get grieftorch resets numbers still gud

undone eagle
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on Sark HC when hes spawning mobs in p2

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how many of them do i garrote/rupture?

spice spire
keen spruce
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he said "i see a cheapshot in there"

eager junco
keen spruce
undone eagle
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How many mobs in Sark p2 do i rupture/garrote? ^*

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im also playing with sbs

keen spruce
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maybe 1 or 2 for energy then just pump boss

spice spire
keen spruce
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or just ignore them they should all die so fast that there's no real point

spice spire
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That’s on me

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Honestly though, that was fine what varas said

undone eagle
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and FoK to cleave

keen spruce
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i mean you could

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if they're all alive, fanning is probably a better builder

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if you still have 3 sbs charges sitting around you could throw them out

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I just ignore them tbh

undone eagle
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i usually 2-3 sbs then rupture on that cps gain, then garrote another and 1cp rupture, then i just fok and pump boss

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is it good decision

spice spire
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Depends on add death speed too. If they’re getting clapped and you force one in - it could munch a charge if it never connects

keen spruce
#

yeah i mean they should pretty much die instantly in a decent group

undone eagle
#

well i could just use sbs and envnom the boss i guess

#

cuz i get hella cps

keen spruce
#

if i had extra sbs i'd toss them out

#

otherwise i'd just tunnel the boss

#

especially the first set

#

your 2m CDs should be coming up

#

so you should just full ignore the adds and just blast the boss

#

make sure you get your burst correct

#

2nd set if you have sbs to spare toss em out i guess

#

or throw a rupture when they spawn if you have cp for it

#

but i wouldn't try to min/max adds that much

#

if they're all alive, fan as a builder is probably good

gaunt moat
#

what build do you use for vortex pinnacle this week?

#

full cleave IC + AP?

keen spruce
#

sub

storm belfry
#

nothing wrong w it

#

still blasting

tacit otter
#

i only play IC on VP now

gusty mirage
uncut dragon
#

I just switch to sub for aoe...

spice spire
#

All my homies hate vp

#

I love being perma zoned off of the first 3 pulls

hoary kernel
#

Somebody told me to put toxic patch in wrist, it doesn't really matter where it goes right? Helm or wrist?

clever sapphire
#

helm gonna suck longterm because you want tset helm

gloomy knoll
#

If you multispec prob wrist

hoary kernel
#

gotcha thanks guys

dark token
#

If u put it helm it's fine also btw

#

You get enough sparks eventually

random fossil
#

belt bc wrist is engi brez

#

🙂

dark token
#

Engi brez is actually int imo

#

Pretty trash

hoary kernel
#

lol

drifting cloud
#

@balmy condor is the custom apl for sepsis in already or where do I even find it

balmy condor
#

can yoink from the sim

gaunt moat
dark token
#

Doing keys at start of week is int

#

Wait couple days for hotfixes

#

Stick to underrot

indigo totem
#

Int? 🤔Translate for the old folks pls 🤣

austere fulcrum
#

I think he/she meant intentionally feeding/inting/int. Meaning that your re trolling by doing keys at start of the week.

#

I might be inting tho 😛

spice surge
#

VP is kinda fine now though?

#

Only thing thats a bit rough is the pack right before the last boss with two executors

strange python
#

Good lord sin sims went up a lot

#

Sepsis exsang Jesus fuck

#

What is this cursed shit y'all been cooking

grim tangle
#

it was all me

gusty mirage
#

whispyr has delivered us to the promised land

strange python
#

The sim rotation doesn't look heinous

#

But sim rotations are usually not right

gusty mirage
#

yeah the only wonky thing that'll throw you off

#

is you hold vanish

#

until 2nd deathmark

strange python
#

Guessingots of value from deep farm stuff

#

Prob a sub angle till farn

#

Farm holy I can English

gusty mirage
#

can prolly bust it out on a heroic reclear

#

to get used to it

#

won't take more than a boss or two I think

#

it's significantly less brain power than sbs exsang shit we had to deal with before

strange python
#

I mean moreso that the build seems like lots of value from cloak and vault fragment

slow tulip
#

the sepsis gameplay feels so smooth imo

royal lantern
#

thats peak coping

slow tulip
gusty mirage
#

it beats sbs handedly for me and I don't have the cloak

royal lantern
#

exsang damaged us so hard

strange python
weak plover
#

is stepsis really easier

gusty mirage
#

by a lot

strange python
#

Weird that the sim sends mut after sepsis before garrote?

earnest timber
#

shucks, I was looking for the sepsis rotation will that be updated soon?

#

love my little picture rotation thingies

#

nvm big blind

slow needle
#

Is there a way to show the additional deathmark bleeds as stacks on Plater?

#

Instead of separate debuffs.

wind condor
slow tulip
#

ye, same here

undone eagle
#

So regarding all 5 tier slots

slow tulip
#

but took like 7-8 pulls and now im gucci

undone eagle
#

which one do i not wanna use?

#

if i got them all

slow tulip
#

its very straight forward

#

the head

undone eagle
#

and replace it with just a regular raid/m+ head gear?

#

or is there any crafting stuff again xD

slow tulip
#

its a crafting one, but its not prio atm

#

so whatever you can find

undone eagle
#

oki ty

balmy condor
#

Crafting one ain’t better

#

It’s at best marginal

royal lantern
#

why is that sim almost 4k higher than my

#

when the gear is more or less the same

storm belfry
#

bro i dont have 4p

thorn fjord
#

check this stupid shit out

storm belfry
#

man

thorn fjord
#

Cant get 4p to sim higher lmao

storm belfry
#

i wont even sim as sub

#

LMAO

#

thats p sexy tho

thorn fjord
#

its so crazy how strong borrowed power is right now

royal lantern
#

based and poison pilled

royal lantern
#

🙂

storm belfry
royal lantern
#

you see

storm belfry
#

gonna try some sepsis gameplay tongiht

#

hopefully i am not bad

royal lantern
#

tier sets are no borrowed power

thorn fjord
#

You'll do fine

royal lantern
#

torghast was borrowed power

#

why? cus im the average wow player that says words without any meanings

#

🙂

thorn fjord
#

LOL

thorn fjord
#

You see the exploit chinese players have been doing with torgh?

royal lantern
#

i STILL dont understand where that "omg borrowed power RUINS the game!!!" take came from during fucking SHADOWLANDS

#

like

#

WHERE????

thorn fjord
#

Its been fun so far though.... fights are fun and we're performing relatively well

tacit otter
#

but been a pretty lucky reset

thorn fjord
#

@tacit otter i gotta wait the 2 weeks to get my toxic patch

#

big sad

#

hoping for mythic dagger tomorrow

#

And some M+ stuff

tacit otter
thorn fjord
#

I do feel like i'll be playing sin at some point so i dont want to craft on helm

#

But i dunno

#

Wrist are what im leaning towards too

tacit otter
#

some guy few days ago talked about chest with toxified and thats an angle i will approach aswell in 2 weeks

#

sounds great having 447 chest bis stats

thorn fjord
#

Yeah

#

But the tier helm is such hot dog water for sub

tacit otter
#

ye i only play sin so not that difficult for me to decide^^

thorn fjord
#

Heard that

#

Im an equal opportunity rogue

#

so i play w/e

#

wonder how bad tier helm is for OL

storm belfry
#

when do i exang w this sepsis tech

royal lantern
#

you dont

thorn fjord
#

You un talent it

storm belfry
#

but its in the sim

royal lantern
#

because you are a decent human beeing that doesnt play it

#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
tacit otter
#

i played exsang sepsis today and it went quite well on the first few hc

storm belfry
#

what talent do i grab

#

instead

#

ma?

#

or double shiv

thorn fjord
#

Double shiv

storm belfry
#

i nabbed the one from the top

#

hm

#

let me sim that

#

it may not be good cause no 4p

thorn fjord
#

Check the sim i sent you

#

Ohhh

#

Prob still it should be

#

Was simming higher for me before even 2p

burnt latch
#

Whats wrong with sepsis and exsang CloseupCri

royal lantern
#

it has exsang

tacit otter
#

but its 1k ahead in sims so easy decision

burnt latch
tacit otter
#

for me atleast

royal lantern
#

allright, serious answer: im 100%convinced that exsang is almost simbait for most players, simply because its an ability that is not easy to actually play perfectly(espacily when a fight goes on for longer) and then it just crumbles HARD

#

and when you get a short brainfart or fatfinger and use it at a bad time, its fucking you hard

burnt latch
#

I mean u could make the argument about any cd that has a specific time to use it

royal lantern
#

except that exsang has more then "use at specific time"

burnt latch
#

If u send deathmark when u have no bleeds up it aint gon do much

tacit otter
royal lantern
#

its "use at specific time, and have your dots at the max duration before you use it, but dont overwrite the good dots you had early to fast, and let the dots then run out"

thorn fjord
#

@royal lantern man of the people

royal lantern
#

if 1 of those things is slightly missed? allready going into the negative

thorn fjord
#

TLDR exsang is a shit button and you'll prob perform higher not taking it than taking it even if it sims 1% higher

burnt latch
#

Most people playing outlaw would do more damage if they just stacked mastery and vers as they award u damage passively without having to work for it

#

But the people dont wanna hear it

gusty mirage
#

hello habibicieft

royal lantern
burnt latch
#

Dude ngl stacking mastery as outlaw is a fucking genius move if youre average/bad

#

Its literally free damage from just hitting the boss

#

Hardly drs with bad play

#

Like every other stat

#

Only stat in the game that just gives u damage for staying in a mobs hitbox

minor gate
#

@vestal wren just to let you stupid nickpick but for sin's sim sheet you put silent star drops from vortex

onyx linden
#

All do that

burnt latch
#

U need to press abilities for them to be able to crit

#

And scale off vers

#

U need to spend energy to get more value out of haste

royal lantern
burnt latch
#

Mastery u just chill

royal lantern
#

huh

gusty mirage
#

you also need to apply bleeds to get value out of haste

burnt latch
#

And damage happens

gusty mirage
#

hear me out

#

every tier

#

we do a RH tournament

#

who can auto attack the bestest

minor gate
#

rules?

burnt latch
#

Imma bring my full mastery outlaw rogue

#

Aint even going to be a competition

royal lantern
spice surge
royal lantern
#

outlaw or assa

spice surge
#

The legends remain

minor gate
#

windfury?

slow needle
gusty mirage
onyx linden
#

Sin probably does way more auto dmg

gusty mirage
#

apply poisons

#

more poison procs

#

get bent pirates

burnt latch
#

Nah im telling u

onyx linden
#

With double poison it's not close

burnt latch
#

Full mastery outlaw fucks on assa

drifting cloud
#

don herbo is overloading

burnt latch
#

Main gauche hitting for 70k

gusty mirage
#

I'll fly over there and fuck on you

#

how about that

storm belfry
burnt latch
#

Fucking right lets get it on

gusty mirage
thorn fjord
spice surge
#

and also

thorn fjord
spice surge
#

ALOO Cutie

onyx linden
#

Does sepsis build devalue irideus frag since you don't get the huge exsang dmark? It must

#

Assuming you drop exsang ofc

thorn fjord
#

Frag still pretty big with sepsis

onyx linden
#

Yeah? Alright. Still sync with dmarks though?

thorn fjord
#

Exsang is still a slight increase but fuck that noise

gusty mirage
thorn fjord
#

@gusty mirage i still havent played with you bro

#

i wanna be berated in game bro

drifting cloud
#

you have to pay extra for that

half comet
#

does evasion work if your backs turned?

thorn fjord
#

He hates me

thorn fjord
red tinsel
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
maiden sierra
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
indigo totem
#

Where can I find a link on slime boots/thorns oversimming? At work and on mobile, asking for the other leather folks in my team

remote oak
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
storm belfry
#

Also to you and also quake

thorn fjord
#

Soon bb

storm belfry
#

Man

#

I am sad

thorn fjord
#

im taking an alcohol break today

storm belfry
#

Cleared H and all that fucking drops is priest tier

#

Like triple

#

On almost every boss

thorn fjord
#

unfortunate

storm belfry
#

But I got it for free so no loss really

thorn fjord
#

Drinking Macallans tonight

#

Or however you spell it

gusty mirage
#

@thorn fjord

#

lol

#

this trinket's so fucking dumb man

storm belfry
#

Bro wow Lmao

thorn fjord
#

Isnt it tho?

storm belfry
#

Do you just use it on cd?

#

What’s the cooldown on it again

gusty mirage
#

2.5min

storm belfry
#

Yo what a based details name. Yung Tuna

thorn fjord
#

my details name is C Tier

storm belfry
#

Mine is Buff Sin

#

C tier is very fitting

thorn fjord
#

RIP Sin was before C Tier

viscid spear
#

C is for COOL

thorn fjord
#

Fuck yeah

#

People love to talk shit during raid nights and i just respond... Cant hear you from this high on the meters bub

#

Had a ret pali talking shit and i made a comment yesterday and now he wants to play War LMAOOOOOO

viscid spear
gusty mirage
#

boys

#

freest 437 bomba

thorn fjord
#

Hell yeah

#

You gonna macro it to Env?

viscid spear
#

bosses running from oxi when he's about to dispense

gusty mirage
cursive smelt
#

sorry to bother you but how is the builde spesis played please? @gusty mirage

thorn fjord
#

Its legit

#

Sim it

young briar
#

Just got 4 set

#

Super happy

#

now i just need decent trinkets

#

well

#

trinket*

vapid sierra
#

mine is dollarstore jpc

sick sail
#

My assassination dps is so low man. Dead last. Is there a new rotation people are using now? I’m 420 with 2 set. Just following wowheads rotation for ST raiding

#

Please don’t tell me try Sub

shut owl
#

sent a parse through analyzer?

#

sin feels pretty solid for ST

wind condor
#

Do we have a opener breakdown for sepsis without puzzle box? It feels weird not using it anymore

gaunt moat
#

@gusty mirageevery fight i see you top 10.
What happened on echo of neltharion FeelsWeird

ruby rover
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
gaunt moat
#

heroic

#

you've done echo on mythic already?

gusty mirage
#

nah we did normal reclear for trinkets

#

thats why I asked

#

I was getting obliterated by ranged

#

while I was trying to break out the add

#

I even got CC'd at one point

gaunt moat
#

I swear other players are actively trying to kill me

#

i just run out of group in advance when add about to come out, so i can shadowstep before CCs

silk bane
#

since realz left both here and felhammer, you guys think he left blizzard or just were told to leave servers or something?

next dune
#

Whats a good set slot to leave open? Head again?

wind condor
#

Another rank 1 boyssss, holding it down for The Sin, Amalg✔️

gray hazel
#

do we just send bomb on CD?

#

do they stack on the same target?

balmy condor
balmy condor
runic hinge
gusty mirage
#

true

#

I was there

runic hinge
# balmy condor <:starege:923197272064426075>

I’m joking. James had their bench group showing and realz was like omg they’re hacking 23 people in the raid, someone tell blizzard. And I said, don’t you work at blizzard? And then oxi told me to stop doxxing

#

Oh right you were

gusty mirage
#

I blame myself

runic hinge
#

I blame myself for thinking I’m funny when I’m not

sick sail
#

Think we need someone to make a nice solid assa guide on YouTube

gusty mirage
#

while that would be a good resource, it'd also be a giant pain in the ass to make and then repeatedly update

gaunt moat
ebon cloud
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
velvet ridge
#

what we binding dragon bomb to, envenom?

gusty mirage
#

yes

velvet ridge
#

cool ty

gusty mirage
#

literally everything you want

#

I have it on shiv, envenom, and mutilate

gaunt moat
#

i got it on envenom. but i still sometimes smash it and put grieftorch on CD 😦

bitter crow
#

where do I find the new sepsis+exsang opener?

gaunt moat
bitter crow
#

I did, couldn't find opener

#

there's no exsang in that opener

uncut dragon
#

Finally got my 2 piece!

spice spire
#

I got my two piece in theory

brazen zodiac
#

💃

spice spire
#

Have to save Omni token for next week

junior aurora
#

i have 4 p

#

t29

#

but its 4p

spice spire
#

True

idle inlet
#

if I know that im only gonna get 2 deathmarks in a fight is it a good idea to wait for neltharions call to proc before using it?

gaunt moat
#

You guys getting tier pieces? 😮

sick sail
junior aurora
#

apparently this guys getting the class trinket too

#

what a gamer

idle inlet
#

yeah i have 4p and the trinket

#

lol its dropped both weeks on heroic for our guilld

#

rather be lucky than good

balmy condor
#

Because I ain’t gonna waste my time optimizing it

#

Just copy sims and it’s good enough

junior aurora
#

whispyr pissed that he found new stepsis tech

shut owl
#

everyone throw dungeon parses at him with sepsis next kek

balmy condor
#

I’m not pissed

#

It’s just

#

An assfuckton of time

#

Optimizing exsang

#

And eliminating all the edge cases

junior aurora
#

optimize it out of the game please blizz

balmy condor
#

And the rotation itself is already sorta ridiculous

#

Plus I can only assume exsang changes in 10.1.5

hollow vault
balmy condor
#

So the payoff is

#

Do I spend 10ish hours optimizing exsang

#

For the next 2 months

#

And then they change exsang

#

And all the exsang logic gets dumpstered

#

That’s not worth it in my head

shut owl
#

my head hurts just trying to get my UI to not hate sepsis atm. I wouldn't wish that upon you whispyr 😛

balmy condor
#

I’m already way behind on guide updates KEKL

junior aurora
#

god im sure you have a million questions a day about

#

"why is this part of the guide not exactly how its supposed to be based on something you found out yesterday"

balmy condor
#

And I mean it’s fine for the average heroic raider

junior aurora
#

lol had to tell someone the other day that the shoulders are not what you want anymore

#

"but the assa guide says they're bis"

balmy condor
#

Yeah….

#

I keep coping that the core demographic won’t care

#

Because they don’t sim

#

But there’s a large portion of even mythic raiders

#

That read the guide looking for the most min-max info

#

And it’s just… idk

#

I understand it

#

But I have to reach a balance

junior aurora
#

lol yeah when you're at a certain level with a spec you should know whats in the guides already

balmy condor
#

Of having an approachable guide

#

Or having the most accurate info

junior aurora
#

so the guides should be written for normal/heroic raiders tbh

balmy condor
#

And that’s usually what I do

junior aurora
#

anything past that you can usually glean for yourself or ask someone about the fringe scenarios

balmy condor
#

But then people get upset on the other side when it’s not suggesting the top 0.2% build

#

And I’m like

#

Idk man

#

I’m not gonna tell a normal raider to play no cttc exsang sepsis

#

It’s just not happening

junior aurora
#

esp when if the top 0.2% is no cttc exsang sepsis lol

#

you will do more damage running a normal build i promise you

balmy condor
#

Yeah

#

It’s a weird dichotomy

#

Between “robot says number higher”

junior aurora
#

and all it takes is you forgetting about snd for a little bit or doing an exsang window slightly wrong to now just be worse than usual

idle inlet
#

is it important to keep elaborate planning up for deathmark?

gusty mirage
#

we don't play around elaborate planning

#

if its up it's up

#

if it's not it's not

junior aurora
#

just thinking about how awful specs would be if you had to play around every passive buff like that

idle inlet
#

is there any other tools like wow analyzer that can help me figure out what I can improve on?

gaunt moat
gusty mirage
#

wowanalyzer is working for assassination, but besides that best bet is just to log a fight or two and bring it in here and people can help you out

balmy condor
#

I know I can’t compete with normal raiders

#

So I have to sandbag the guides

idle inlet
gaunt moat
#

Well for starters, that kill time is very long. almost double than my kill time.

#

next, you're 420ilvl

nimble tartan
#

hello i am here for the most optimal knowledge of the assassination spec

#

!opener

celest ruin
#

how tf do you kill zaqali assault in 50 seconds

bitter crow
#

man, don't trigger whispyr, let the poor lad be :<

shut owl
#

BIG NUMBERS, thats how

balmy condor
#

Crank hard

celest ruin
#

doesnt the boss hard phase when hes like half hp

shut owl
#

I see a bunch of sub-30 second pulls on normal XD

balmy condor
#

And if you get him to 25%, he heals

#

Or something like that

#

You can look at our kill

shut owl
#

just zerg harder than his heal cast-time

balmy condor
#

Also don’t play the build I played

#

Just

#

Don’t do it

#

Don’t ask

#

Don’t speak of it

shut owl
#

immediately looks at this build

bitter crow
shut owl
#

aha! we knew you were holding out on us!!!

gusty mirage
balmy condor
#

Oh this is the normal one

#

Pfew

#

I think it was normal

#

That was the cursed build

shut owl
#

its almost like your sims say that exsang sepsis is slightly bigger numbers but bigger headache too

balmy condor
#

Yeah

shut owl
#

yooooo

balmy condor
#

Normal was the cursed one

bitter crow
#

btw, as far as openers go, I'm just sticking berserking racial where puzzlebox would be, and exsang before deathmark and geegee

shut owl
#

the normal build kek

#

I love it

balmy condor
#

@normal olive would appreciate that opener

bitter crow
#

pool vanish for DM + vanish combo, be done with it, remove exsang build next patch, whispyr happy

gusty mirage
#

Supertaco465 Log Review

balmy condor
#

I just got flashbacks

#

From that thread opening

#

Like a bad trip

hollow vault
#

ive feelycrafted a new opener it feels epic gangsterSpongebob

balmy condor
#

Nice

junior aurora
#

love feelycrafting new openers

#

mine goes shadow strike flag rupture rn

idle inlet