#assassination

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oak sky
spice spire
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I got bad news buddy

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Hope u like havoc

oak sky
drifting cloud
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I mean atleast dh has 1 raid spot

spice spire
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Oh I haven’t checked in a week

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Let’s see

drifting cloud
spice spire
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Iirc topple’s guild already has 2 hdh

marble hemlock
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I'd rather take a dh refugee than an outlaw or sub one, idk about you guys

jagged yoke
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i can go sub but no way outlaw

near valley
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what is with catching strays cause i play OL

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smh

spice spire
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Mf meows at me 25/8 NotALOO

viscid spear
spice spire
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Also havoc seems fine unless their sheet is out of date

marble hemlock
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Playing outlaw is a choice. Choices have consequences.

spice spire
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Checkmate

marble hemlock
near valley
spice spire
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That’s actually so cute tho wtf

near valley
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on god

viscid spear
crystal tartan
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so how should my opener look exactly as sin im getting conflicting answers online and am newer to this end of spec with like bnonesdust and such

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bone spike*

spice spire
spice spire
vapid sierra
crystal tartan
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thanks vex didnt see at first appreciate it

vapid sierra
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all good

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make sure you pick the right one for exsang or without'

viscid spear
near valley
weak horizon
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does this embellishment change affect us at all?

crystal tartan
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@vapid sierra is there any instance i wouldnt want to take exsang?

spice spire
near valley
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it's not that much of a loss if u dont take it

dense jolt
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sepsis time

near valley
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wait is that sin bug fix pretty good?

spice spire
weak horizon
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Is this a new bugfix or something they already announced?

Fixed an issue that caused some skills to be unaffected by Assassination's Mastery: Potent Assassin, including Kingsbane's initial damage, Sepsis, and Mutilate's damage from Vicious Venoms.

spice spire
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I don’t remember this change

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Don’t think it was announced previously

near valley
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it wasnr

restive falcon
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this is new

near valley
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why i asked the question

weak horizon
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just wanted to double check before someone flew in and slammed me for thinking it was new lol

near valley
weak horizon
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also they still put this under sin lol

Fixed a bug that prevented Lethality's critical damage bonus from affecting Subtlety's Shadowstrike attacks.

dense jolt
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sepsis after 4pc deathmark coming to a rotation near you

spice spire
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I think it was meant for something else

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Specifically they just copy pasted the full text

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But yeah

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11th hour changes

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Banger

weak horizon
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@balmy condor how significant is this bug fix?

drifting cloud
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kb now only 3 buffs away from viable

spice spire
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Real

near valley
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one day KB will return

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11.0 trust

drifting cloud
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inb4 whispyr says sims assumed mastery worked

balmy condor
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might make sepsis good

spice spire
balmy condor
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and by good I mean like

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within 0.5%

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not good as in playable

spice spire
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Ok we’re saved

balmy condor
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kingsbane probably gains another 0.2% or whatever

spice spire
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Bless up

balmy condor
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vicious venoms is kinda kekw

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since 2 points of it, in single target, is 1.2%

spice spire
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Trinket buffs too

balmy condor
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well

spice spire
balmy condor
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2% technically

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since ambush

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but like

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these are puny

balmy condor
viscid spear
balmy condor
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didn't work in game, didn't work in sims

near valley
spark scaffold
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Stepsis gaming

viscid spear
silk bane
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class trinket buffed by 5%. still worthless tho after rppm nerf right?

balmy condor
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yes

silk bane
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yeah thought so

near valley
balmy condor
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also they just nerfed it by 12% as well

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so like

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kinda fucking funny

silk bane
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12%?

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the rppm?

viscid spear
silk bane
viscid spear
balmy condor
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yeah

silk bane
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throw back to realz saying : have you tried using a stack stick trinket instead? good times

balmy condor
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actually might be more

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I guess

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if you have more haste

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but it's still weaker than it was before

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which is just kinda hilarious

silk bane
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litearlly some of the dumbest designs the human mind can think of

spark scaffold
silk bane
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truly remarkable

balmy condor
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wasn't a clear winner before, nerf it significantly

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and then increase it back slightly

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very cool

silk bane
spark scaffold
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He just implied rogues have other talent options than we are using and peaced out

gilded oasis
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
silk bane
# balmy condor wasn't a clear winner before, nerf it significantly

its not just that, its designed basically the same for classes with significantly different damage profiles, so by design its gonna be shit for some and really good for others. but they fucked up tuning that it wasnt good for anyone outside of the 2 dudes that would always proc it with their main cd. its like who actully designed this?

gloomy knoll
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There’s been cool stat stick trinkets many times

spark scaffold
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Idk maybe blizzard has some hidden tech we will discover in next expansion

gloomy knoll
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The rogue one ain’t it unfortunately

silk bane
gloomy knoll
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Wait when was this

spark scaffold
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He also said

gloomy knoll
silk bane
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the day sub got their amps removed

spark scaffold
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The changes are a buff to every build other than bis profile

gloomy knoll
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I mean that’s a good thing but kinda tone deaf yea

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Lmao

whole mason
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@balmy condor is the latest fix not already fixed in sim?

silk bane
spark scaffold
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I don't see how its relevant to tuning though

balmy condor
whole mason
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ty

spark scaffold
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Even if they were fine gameplay wise, would you ever tune a spec around builds not simming well?

whole mason
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So it is a lot of reading and no influence. great morning!

gloomy knoll
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Build diversity is a good thing

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Our talents / builds just have fundamental flaws like sin aoe for example

balmy condor
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patch day re-sims

gloomy knoll
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8 hour sim time

near valley
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no sleep for TC

whole mason
gloomy knoll
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Nah fuck that get sleep

spark scaffold
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Ok if they buffed a build without cttc, with exsang and you have to CT on ST but its still 2% lower than just your standard talents, would you play that?

balmy condor
gloomy knoll
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We already know we suck no use sucking and being tired Notok

silk bane
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out of curiosity, if we put KB as a choice node with exsanguinate, would we reach 140k?

whole mason
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there was a last minute change on 10.0 as well iirc

balmy condor
silk bane
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like we gain a fuck ton, but we also lose exsang

near valley
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win-win

silk bane
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yeah but is that actually enough to put u at 140k

balmy condor
pallid bough
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[With weekly restarts] Algeth'ar Puzzle Box shared cooldown increased to 30 seconds, effect decreased by 30% for Unholy specialization.

whole mason
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was working on ptr

balmy condor
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it hasn't worked all expansion

pallid bough
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my memory is a bit faded but have they ever nerfed a specific spec trinket nerf?

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in the past

whole mason
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it was working partially on ptr before 10.0 release iirc

drifting cloud
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cof

pallid bough
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Oh really?

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for what class/spec?

spark scaffold
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Ye but blizz said they wont fix ns because they are scared it will make sub unbalanced

whole mason
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then it was fixed to not working at all

drifting cloud
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warrior and rogue I think?

spark scaffold
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And they kept it as a tuning tool

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That was their argument regarding ns

drifting cloud
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but I guess its different because didnt that trinket have different ppms depending on spec

still epoch
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is there any hope for sin currently or is sub the move

near valley
still epoch
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new to rogue

whole mason
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i really need to make the story whole

gloomy knoll
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Warrior made it proc like a billion times

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Oh wait that was draught

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Didn’t they also tune down draught for warrior

balmy condor
still epoch
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im swapping from playing demo for 5 years lmao

balmy condor
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why the fuck would you do that

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looking to downgrade?

near valley
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Swapped from good to bad

still epoch
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i like playing shit when its not busted

near valley
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Absolute mad lad

balmy condor
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yeh

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the anti-fotm chaser

still epoch
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yup

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to be more concise

spark scaffold
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Someone stole the pi

still epoch
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tired of pi and rng factors being tied to optimal play

balmy condor
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oh

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oh no

whole mason
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sepsis any good now?

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btw, is sepsis still double dipping AP?

balmy condor
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what do you mean by double dipping

still epoch
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also please feel free to flame me but does anyone actually enjoy using bone spear or echoing anima ?

whole mason
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it was double dipping T28?

balmy condor
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lament I need you to finish a thought

whole mason
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was it poison and nature and bleeding or something?

balmy condor
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sepsis is not a bleed

silk bane
whole mason
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so it was buffed by nature dmg and poison dmg then?

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right, not related to AP

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my bad

boreal valley
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
boreal valley
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@balmy condor On your sheet the build you recommend playing has 3 points in Zoldyck Recipe and 0 in Shrouded Suffocation on the sim, but the talent tree you link to on the sheet has 2 in Zoldyck and 1 in Shrouded Suffocation I doubt it matters a ton, but any reason for the difference?

balmy condor
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which sim

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there's about 40 links

boreal valley
balmy condor
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oh weird

boreal valley
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The quick sim linked there uses 3 Zoldyck 0 Shrouded, the talent tree you link is 2 Zoldyck 1 Shrouded

balmy condor
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the quick sim is off yeh

boreal valley
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so 2/1 better/intended?

balmy condor
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wait

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no

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that's correct

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cause you'd drop cttc otherwise

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the top gear includes all the builds

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the quick sim is for the recommended with cttc

boreal valley
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ah ok

balmy condor
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if you want to take shrouded, you'd have to drop cttc since that's the best combo with it

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and that's pretty cringe

boreal valley
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The quick sim links to this with CTTC and 3 Zoldyck, the talent tree you give the export code for is this, both have cttc

image.png image.png
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It's just 1 in Shrouded or not, that's the only difference

balmy condor
boreal valley
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I'm prolly being stupid and misunderstanding your explanation, sorry 😅

woeful cipher
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
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oh nah you're right, the import copy paste was weird

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yeh okay

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so the sim is fine

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the import just is fucked

boreal valley
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so 3 Zoldyck is correct then?

balmy condor
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yes

boreal valley
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kk

cerulean walrus
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@balmy condor Ayo SEPSIS!?

balmy condor
near valley
cerulean walrus
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Which one?

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You gotta specify

balmy condor
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my bad

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the long one

cerulean walrus
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Yeah but like which one of those?

balmy condor
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the longest

cerulean walrus
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We’ve got a clean up crew rearing to go

gusty mirage
cerulean walrus
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Hell yeah habibi

still epoch
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if you are not running kingsbane

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do you shiv after enven?

carmine dawn
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i saw fer in here so i had to follow

balmy condor
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if shiv available, me hit shiv

near valley
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20% buffed shiv

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Hard carrying

balmy condor
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calm down tettles

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lets get you back to bed grandpa

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you have a race to shoutcast tomorrow

drifting cloud
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splits*

near valley
balmy condor
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go in and slam boys

drifting cloud
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get ready for 20 neltharion kills

still epoch
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in the event i have 3 combo points 1 is regular last 2 are anima charged. I mutilate to 6 and envenom and I get the full benefit of the anima charged points correct ?

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talent reads kinda odd

carmine dawn
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regardless of which points are charged, when you finish on that exact point it acts as 7

drifting cloud
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234 are the ones that get anima charged

carmine dawn
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so if 2nd is charged, when you finish 2/6, it acts as 7/6

still epoch
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ahhhh

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thats dope

carmine dawn
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and its very obvious to see which points are charged, but if you're having trouble still then there are Weak Auras to help (if you use them)

drifting cloud
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
carmine dawn
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its not something you play around though, contrary to first impressions

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but as you get better at rogue, you start learning how to naturally end up on that point so its smooth

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every spec is different in that regard.

oak tangle
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You do kinda play around it in the opener for exsang reasons but yeah it naturally lines up

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And if you stick to the cast order you don’t gotta think

sick aspen
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the mastery hotfix new or just wowhead catching up?

drifting cloud
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new

sick aspen
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nice

runic basin
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
misty holly
# balmy condor calm down tettles

I bet tettles thought the shiv effect was buffed by 20%. Would be an easy mistake to make if you don't play rogue normally or just misread it.

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That would be at least a something buff worth talking about.

main vessel
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I’m sorry boys

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I know this is gonna break your heart

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But I am withdrawing my ass rogue application

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I hope u understand

rancid lance
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
gusty mirage
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or is that still on the menu?

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asking for a friend

ornate aspen
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Damn rogue may be down bad but no need to call it ass

rancid lance
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
main vessel
gusty mirage
cunning nest
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Wait Sepsis wasnt scaling with Mast?

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That's a big buff to the ability, I am sitting at almost 50% mast

ember mural
white bone
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Goodmorning fellow assasins! I need an subjective/objective reply. I am super torn between rogue or feral for 10.1. My guild wants me to go either one of those but I just can’t decide 😅

serene fossil
# white bone Goodmorning fellow assasins! I need an subjective/objective reply. I am super to...

Im not an assassin player but the other two, id say rogue all day every day. It has 3 melee specs you can choose playstile wise and if one of them is better by a BIG number you can go to that spec bc of that too. Im not too sure about ferals look rn but if they not the greatest you either go boomie (idk if thats an option or if that is good either lol) or reroll so 3x melee dps is the safer pick than 1x melee 🙂

upbeat mirage
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!whyspyr

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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
dark token
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morning doomers

cold spoke
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morning

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morning doomer shift starting soon

dark token
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its amazing how optimistic you feel about the tier when you have warrior and dk alts

cold spoke
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they ll get nerfed for sure

royal lantern
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dk is DEAD allright

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2%

brazen lantern
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Didnt they destroy box

royal lantern
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and they have 0other trinkets avaible right

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🙂

brazen lantern
royal lantern
grave depot
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
remote oak
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I will always personally be a big proponent of rogue though.

peak bobcat
winged veldt
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Yea cheat death, cloak for soak mechanics, feint for free 40% DR on low cd. All make it more worth to me but I have always loved rogue so your experience may not be the same. @white bone

royal lantern
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calling feint a free dr when it costs resources and is on the GCD is bold monkahmm

remote oak
royal lantern
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just cus druid has it bad in that regard, doesnt mean that feint is a "free dr" allright dracthyr_kek

winged veldt
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Eh I’ll buy that response and it’s deserved tbh lol

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He isn’t wrong at all.

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Better wording is needed lol.

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Won’t change it cuz I deserve the shame for it lol

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Going to bed!

balmy condor
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!ts

prisma monolithBOT
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<t:1683614899:f>

drifting cloud
cedar silo
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
jagged yoke
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anyone got a decent poison weak aura or addon?

winged veldt
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Like to tell you that you have missing poisons?

jagged yoke
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yeh exactly

winged veldt
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There’s a few WA for it. I don’t use them but have seen some streams with them.

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Yea just googled rogue poisons weak aura dragon flight and there’s a ton to choose from. This isn’t a “google it” post. I just don’t wanna link a bunch here lol @jagged yoke

jagged yoke
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yeh i tried a few and half dont even work, thats mostly why i was asking in here

scenic jetty
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only all 3 rogues specs and ret pala

static coral
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hows le sin looking?

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or is feral this seasons sin

cold spoke
carmine dawn
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lee sin is in league of legends

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jungler i believe

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blind dude

carmine dawn
jagged yoke
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yeh i disable so much stuff from those packs though,. think i removed it

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i found a decent one on wago though

royal lantern
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@carmine dawn you became a based assa player or what

balmy condor
serene fossil
balmy condor
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Spreadsheet that says how good tier bonuses are and then does the same thing bloodmallet does but worse

nova verge
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Is Vers or Chaos Phial new BiS for us now? wowhead has conflicting information between Overview S2 page and Consumables page.

balmy condor
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Should be vers everywhere

nova verge
serene fossil
carmine dawn
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We just snacking

fleet pagoda
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did anybody else find tjs wildly overtuned this past week, while everything else was a joke?

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meant for the general channel, my b, illiterate casual

steel ridge
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Sepsis working with mastery is new?

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Surely that will make it viable riiiiiiiiight

sweet dawn
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Yeye 100% and KB too

lament raptor
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
static glacier
drifting cosmos
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copium chance of patch day buffs?

steel ridge
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zero

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dont think there will be more buffs to rogues this week if any

royal lantern
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shit doesnt matter this week anyway

steel ridge
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BiS Profiles are not what you should worry about now

royal lantern
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reminder that the sims are full 4set+best trinkets, all max lvl

steel ridge
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i´d say we are pumping in 420 gear rn

royal lantern
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and we are all still using old tier sets lol

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rogue will probably be 1of the better classes in the first 1-2 weeks

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and THEN drop

steel ridge
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this

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curious if those mastery fixes are anything substantial

royal lantern
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ofc not

median root
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
tiny ember
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
tiny ember
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
novel moss
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
royal lantern
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
fossil garnet
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I think we need more of the same links

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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
fossil garnet
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
flint tusk
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Yeh scrolling up or looking at the last post is clearly too hard

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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
royal lantern
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
grim jay
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
strange niche
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
deft flicker
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
deft flicker
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!guide

prisma monolithBOT
deft flicker
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
deft flicker
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This is a lot more fun than dooming

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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
midnight mist
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!zac

flint tusk
royal lantern
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our best outlaw guy

midnight mist
royal lantern
analog glade
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!zac

grim jay
analog glade
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!zac

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Hmm

royal lantern
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guy is guy

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special, and we all love him

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but guy

grim jay
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I mean

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at the end of the day

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they both are outlaw players

analog glade
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@midnight mist pref ass and sub imo

royal lantern
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yeha, but guy would delete assassination and sub without a 2nd thought from the game if it results in a 1% gain for outlaw

grim jay
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relatable

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just not for outlaw

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we actually never had really unlikeable greens or oranges in here iirc

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I remember someone being grumpy sometimes

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but I dont remember the name

royal lantern
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i mean, you wont turn into a community figure if you are an asshat

midnight mist
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Instead of these boring specs for grandpa's

analog glade
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Sub > Ass > Outlaw to me

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Oo

midnight mist
grim jay
royal lantern
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if you look at the order of the spec channels here

and only take the first 3letters of each spec

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it says Ass Out Sub

analog glade
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xD

royal lantern
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hidden message achieved

burnt latch
analog glade
burnt latch
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People are only happy to outlaw game when it cranks

slow needle
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Literally unplayable spec.

image.png
burnt latch
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Nobody tryna brake their wrists for bad damage kekdog

slow needle
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I want to hear the complaints.

burnt latch
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Id be down

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It wasnt easy to play optimally

slow needle
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Same.

burnt latch
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Should be rewarded

slow needle
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I loved that build.

burnt latch
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I fucking hated it

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But i mean

slow needle
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But it also hurt to play for more than a couple of hours at a time.

burnt latch
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If its hard it should reward too

hidden dirge
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How much does the mastery hotfix do for KB?

royal lantern
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its the first hit

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lol

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lmao even

burnt latch
vapid sierra
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It’s fine to drop it in raid

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It’s a minimal damage loss@for a much easier play style

midnight mist
vapid sierra
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No

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It goes ass>outlaw>>>>>>sub

spice surge
midnight mist
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🤔

vapid sierra
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Fr fr

grim jay
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so they put it at the bottom so the others could feel better

cunning nest
vapid sierra
royal lantern
vapid sierra
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Ass = mega cool bleed killer assasination

royal lantern
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not allowed to speak until your master allows it

vapid sierra
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Ayo

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But real talk I can’t wait for rtwf

analog glade
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A not delusional rogue would say that a real rogue will always say that Sub is the best spec Kappa

vapid sierra
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Best at giving carpal tunnel? I agree ez

grim jay
vapid sierra
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Smart man

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You pick ur words carefully

static glacier
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historically it's been sin best in raids, ol best in keys

grim jay
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historically if you didnt play as long

static glacier
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?

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sub was good in like 3-4 tiers from what I remember

grim jay
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OL doesnt exist half of the "history"

static glacier
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OL = combat

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cmon

grim jay
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thats just a lie

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combat >>>>>>>>>> OL

static glacier
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thing is combat didn't exist when keys were a thing

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it's the same shit

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mop combat was ss > keep up snd and evisc

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rupture was like a 0.00001% gain or smth

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and people didn't bother

grim jay
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the mastery was interesting

static glacier
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can't remember wod combat, and legion introduced OL

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iirc wasn't it the same mastery

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main gauche

analog glade
cunning nest
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Combat was sick in raid slot of Times back then

static glacier
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interestingly sub was blasting end of wod

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huge burst with the ring

cunning nest
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The Moment OL was created was the Moment I became a sin player

cunning nest
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Sub was SO strong, it hot nerfed for the entire xpac for that 😅

rough osprey
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
static glacier
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zul's the famous example

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killed old sub tbh

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having all ur aoe power into funnel was unique design

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rip shuriken combo

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if pre-zul sub still existed it would be s++++++ tier for keys

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unironically

flint tusk
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Outlaw killed the OG sword rogue for me.

#

so now i just use daggers

grim jay
#

since you worked towards that

#

and had your big killing spree

static glacier
#

bandit's guile iirc

#

was pretty cool

flint tusk
#

bro kiling spree used to be so good

grim jay
#

I think they just went too deep on that pirate theme. a bandit theme wouldve been better imo

flint tusk
#

loved playing top gun rogue with people in wrath.

#

yeh was always a bandit sorta thing for me not pirate but there we go

static glacier
#

I guess now it's just a bandit kinda theme

#

gambling with dice is a thug thing

flint tusk
#

i mean even the defias are bandits! not priates

grim jay
#

they lost me on that "ship shoots cannon barrage at area" stuff

flint tusk
#

it's the gun for me

#

just feels so out of place

#

IF we could still equip a ranged weapon

static glacier
#

I think a gun is fine

flint tusk
#

then i'd sorta agree with it

grim jay
#

a gun is still kinda bandit-ish and it works well in guildwars aswell

static glacier
#

cannon barrage was a bit too piratey tbh ye

#

gangplank from league territory

flint tusk
#

but i mean it's like hunters can't melee anymore that they don't have a melee weapon to equip

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i don't know it just feels weird to me

cunning nest
#

I miss Red killing spree

flint tusk
#

i'd probably actually like the spec if it was slightly slower and less reactive also.

royal lantern
flint tusk
#

yeh which i also don't get xD

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i will say i did like the talent that if we used shuriken toss we got 10seconds of ranged auto attacks that was pretty cool

gusty mirage
eager junco
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
eager junco
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
winged veldt
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
raven knoll
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
slow tulip
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
royal lantern
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
winged veldt
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
scenic sky
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
royal lantern
#

!guide

prisma monolithBOT
raven knoll
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
cursive frost
#

So should boots be the first craft or weapon?

winged veldt
#

Depends on you but most will prolly make the weapon for the pure damage it gives over boots.

cursive frost
#

That’s what I figured but just a whole fire hose of information to consume atm

winged veldt
#

True.

storm onyx
#

Weapon makes the rogue

cursive frost
#

I thought the man made the blade, the blade doesn’t make the man?

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Lol

storm onyx
#

Another man makes the blade to make you man

winged veldt
#

Not in blizzards case or the case of your details lol

slim hamlet
#

cba doing math, when does NA get game

winged veldt
#

7hrs 30 mins ish

chilly viper
cursive frost
#

Supposed to be done around 11;00pst

winged veldt
#

6hr maintenance last I checked

cursive frost
#

But it’s patch day, total crap shoot

#

Could be by 15:00 est or could be 20:00est

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But odds are servers will be shaking as shit

gaunt moat
#

When DD2 releases a day before new season 🥲

#

gonna be too tired to do m+

burnt latch
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
earnest citrus
gaunt moat
#

darkest dungeon 2

earnest citrus
#

was that released somewhere else earlier?

slim hamlet
#

DD2 is forever, WoW patch is temporary

earnest citrus
#

or is that like Early Access -> Release?

slim hamlet
#

But full release

earnest citrus
#

Was a fan of the first one, maybe I will look into this one too.

slim hamlet
#

This one is much more appealing graphically than the first one

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Only thing I didn't like about first one

earnest citrus
#

Really? The art style and the atmosphere of the first one was what got me hooked.

slim hamlet
#

39 euros tho

slim hamlet
earnest citrus
#

I mean the game is from 2015, DD2 looks very similar in my opinion. New engine and a little bit more 3dish I guess.

slim hamlet
#

DD2 has the whole 3D stuff and things

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I didn't play long DD1 so might have missed if they had that?

earnest citrus
#

No 3D stuff if you are referring to the "driving the horse carriage" part

#

And overall also 2D style, the new battles look more 3D even though it is still a 2D fight scene.

gentle osprey
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
empty lily
#

is gearset similar for assassin and sub

#

thinking of learning it this season

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for raid

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and play m+ sub

royal lantern
#

crit mastery is good then yeha

marble hemlock
royal lantern
gaunt moat
bitter compass
#

Atrophic poison does NOT stack, correct?

gaunt moat
#

correct

#

but could have been intresting to bring 20 rogues for 72% damage reduction 😂

grim jay
#

everything becomes a healer mechanic with stacking atrophic

unborn sierra
#

!guides

prisma monolithBOT
broken basalt
#

!Whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
unborn sierra
#

So have we decided if the bug fix makes KB or Sepsis usable?

#

or is it still negligible

thorn fjord
#

I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say nah

jagged yoke
#

any plater profiles you guys suggest?

thorn fjord
#

@limber lion has a really nice Plater profile

#

Should be on wago

#

Thats really lack luster imo.... Beacon is such a smoll upgrade for sin compared to the 4% sub is getting

lucid birch
#

Good morning

#

Good luck this tier assassination players

thorn fjord
peak bobcat
#

You can play assassination and be completely fine

lethal forge
#

Guys if i play sub sin will be an option too without hacing to change stats like in 10.0?

#

I switched to sin in some bosses

peak bobcat
spice spire
#

Is this a snow baby angle?

jagged yoke
#

is sub looking better?

lethal forge
peak bobcat
#

They all look bad

#

So play whatever one you like the most

grim jay
lethal forge
#

Jajajaja

grim jay
#

but its not gamebreaking

lethal forge
#

So the option will be outlaw?

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The Best option i mean

peak bobcat
#

Vers is fine on sin

#

The best option will be whatever you’re the best at since they are so close

lethal forge
#

Outlaw is the easiest one

lucid birch
#

Epic parses inc

spice spire
#

God bless amen

peak bobcat
#

They are literally a % or 2 away from each other

lethal forge
#

Outlaw is just pump the keyboard

peak bobcat
#

So if you play sin 2% better than outlaw you will see no gain

rocky ruin
lethal forge
#

So outlaw>subt >sin

peak bobcat
#

For raid ?

jagged yoke
#

whats best for m+?

lethal forge
#

Rqid

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For raid

peak bobcat
#

Raid outlaw=sub=sin

lethal forge
#

If im m+ and raider player the Best option will be outlaw?

peak bobcat
#

Probably yes

lethal forge
#

That sucks

jagged yoke
#

whats better with m+ with sub or sin...i hate outlaw

rocky ruin
#

play sub

peak bobcat
#

Sin in m+OMEGAKEKW

cursive frost
#

Or you can play assa in raid and sub in M+

thorn fjord
#

Pretty sure Sub will be just as good

rocky ruin
#

or sin

cursive frost
#

They use same stats

peak bobcat
#

Playing sin and sub is a perfectly good combo

grim jay
cursive frost
#

Outlaw just feels clunky atm to some

grim jay
#

let them channel their inner pirate

lethal forge
#

Saw that subt is D tier this m+ season 😦

grim jay
#

and farm the same dungeon for hours

peak bobcat
#

They’re trolling

grim jay
cursive frost
#

All 3 specs are viable in all content

vestal wren
#

copium execute best niche in game

lethal forge
#

Nah bro assassination is not viable in m+

grim jay
lethal forge
#

At least in high keys

#

CDs are not properly timed

peak bobcat
#

Do you do 26s?

cursive frost
#

Assa 100% viable in keys up to like top 2%

peak bobcat
#

If not then you’re fine

cursive frost
#

Just a lot more work in rotation

lethal forge
#

Nope if i do soloq but will do this tier, max 24

vestal wren
grim jay
#

look at zerocool. if you really want to you will do just fine

#

dslice sims arent what determines m+ viability

lethal forge
#

Sry if i do srupid questions, im only playing wow for 5 months i come from csgo competitive

thorn fjord
#

Nice no worries

#

Cs2 gonna slap

vestal wren
#

viable just means you can spec into something and play it

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i can spec into assassination and do a key

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so its viable

royal lantern
#

what have CD's to do with that

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like

hollow dirge
#

Not viable ? What are we talking about there ? Not viable for what? It’s certainly worse than other options, but it’s still doing decent dmg . I find it to be quite fun too

royal lantern
#

bro, the 2 "good rogue m+ specs" dont even HAVE CD's lol

vestal wren
#

but assassination seems fine on most keys, only in very high ones falls behind a bit

steel spire
#

Play sub at low lvls 2 button aoe spec

rocky ruin
royal lantern
#

like, yeha, assa is worse than sub/outlaw, but man, its not unplayable bad lol

hollow dirge
lethal forge
steel spire
#

Tru

cursive frost
#

I think they all can be fun

grim jay
cursive frost
#

Outlaw used to feel better but they are still all fun

royal lantern
grim jay
rocky ruin
#

every spec can reach 3k Score just play what you like

steel spire
#

"Holding blades for next pack" rogue coms

peak bobcat
#

Bring back flagellation vendetta rogue!

thorn fjord
#

Nah bring back dreadblades flag degeneracy

somber fractal
grim jay
peak bobcat
#

Bring back sanctum of domination, we need all 3 rogue specs at the top

strange trail
gusty mirage
#

Open up assassination

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See dreadblades

#

Weird

royal lantern
gusty mirage
royal lantern
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
gusty mirage
#

Ty for doing your part

grim jay
gusty mirage
#

Also don’t worry EU friends, the beta test for 10.1 starts when servers are up

gusty mirage
grim jay
jaunty phoenix
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
craggy needle
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
frigid pilot
#

Sin rogues, if fury takes your spots Salute it’s been real

thorn fjord
#

Nah fury doesnt have Atro

nocturne lagoon
#

rip

storm belfry
#

They have rally tho

atomic forge
#

Sorry if this is the wrong place for this, new here. Been wanting to pick up Sin Rogue again as I always liked it in the past, but moved to Outlaw. I want to try to pick it up again, but I feel I'm either playing it wrong or missing key parts during rotations and stuff. Been following rotation guide here and other places, but I feel 1 part of my issue is there is a lot of ability's or buttons to hit. I know people of course have different layouts, mods, etc, but anyone have any tips tricks or anything? Again sorry if this wrong location.

quasi osprey
#

Got logs?

atomic forge
#

I don't at the moment, but I can try to get some

minor gate
#

Todays the day boys

#

Time to show how mid we can truly be

slow tulip
#

!sheet

prisma monolithBOT
slow tulip
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
steel spire
#

Nah we gona be top of the meters even with no helpLETSGOO

flint tusk
#

Make us EU guys proud so we get buffs 🙂

flint tusk
#

we pumped in heroic then got gigastomped

steel spire
#

And we still manage to top

#

Nerf us harder

slow tulip
#

how strong was the class trinket for assa ?

ripe saddle
#

why does it list toxic boots as another choice if slimy is #1?

shut owl
#

Why wouldn't it? It's a list of the best things to craft right away, not a list of the best combinations

earnest citrus
#

Anybody knows if castsequence macros have any queuing issues? Or is a /castsequence a, b literally the same as pressing a button and then b?

tawny pike
#

good morning peeps, are we still swo bad that it's funny?

sick sail
#

So we crafting weapon or boots with our new spark

flint tusk
#

if you know you're going sub or assa weapon

still willow
#

Hey guys , possible Dumb question, but new to Rogue enjoyers this Season. Do we go for Deadly and Amplifying Poison or other Combos?

boreal valley
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
manic haven
#

How do I edit details settings so they won't wipe when I vanish again? Trying to test against training dummies.

gusty mirage
thorn fjord
unreal coyote
#

after watching the fights it honestly seems really assa friendly

#

silver lining?

winged quail
#

I'll be playing Sin for early prog at least, swapping once I get 4 set I guess

unreal coyote
#

thats my plan

#

unless they buff us

thorn adder
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
vestal wren
pale plank
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
pale plank
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
royal lantern
#

!guide

prisma monolithBOT
slim hamlet
#

Who is tagging me

#

How do I see

#

What is happening

royal lantern
#

@slim hamlet nobody did

thorn fjord
#

@slim hamlet

IMG_3004.png
storm belfry
#

trinket buffs Pog

spice spire
thorn fjord
#

5% aint gonna change nuffin

storm belfry
#

let me cope

gusty mirage
#

We don’t use any of those

spice spire
storm belfry
#

just trying to lose M boon for M+ man

gusty mirage
#

You won’t

#

Unlucky

thorn fjord
#

Boon gonna stay all tier in M+

storm belfry
#

well

spice spire
#

I only got a normal boon last tier

storm belfry
#

at least i hvae it i guess

spice spire
storm belfry
#

what're we pairing it with?

slim hamlet
gusty mirage
#

Icon, fragment, one of the raid trinkets, Harlan’s dice

#

Go nuts

thorn fjord
#

Really sucks that beacon drops off the last boss

storm belfry
#

mythic icon deadge

#

or wait

thorn fjord
#

But it doesnt have as much value for sin unfortunately

storm belfry
#

HUH another icon?

thorn fjord
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
gusty mirage
#

Good amount of primary stat

#
  • crit
#

Crit gud for m+

storm belfry
#

damn

#

so i have bis already

gusty mirage
#

For now yeah

storm belfry
#

in this bis m+ dslice

gusty mirage
#

Once you get dice or fragment

storm belfry
#

shows beacon

gusty mirage
#

It’s bye bye icon

storm belfry
#
  • frag
gusty mirage
#

Idk I don’t look at dslice sims

#

I feel craft much way to a score before I get bored

spice spire
#

Pretty sure there’s also a note

gusty mirage
#

And then I do bare minimum

spice spire
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
thorn fjord
#

Fragment isnt even that good tho

#

You'd be better off with Dispenser

storm belfry
#

these

gusty mirage
thorn fjord
#

On use

storm belfry
#

reading beacon it doesnt seem like it would be too bad in keys

gusty mirage
#

I mean not like you’re getting a mythic bomb dispenser this week or next

thorn fjord
#

yeah for sure

gusty mirage
#

So if you get fragment you use it

thorn fjord
#

Is it a super rare drop?

#

Fragment i mean

gusty mirage
#

Even if it “sucks” (which I agree very underwhelming trinket)

#

Not really

#

Drops for everyone

storm belfry
#

i just realized

#

exsang is taken on this slice

#

and no flying daggers

spice spire
storm belfry
gusty mirage
#

Ya

storm belfry
spice spire
#

Wouldn’t be surprised

storm belfry
#

also MP isnt taken

#

but atroph is

gusty mirage
#

Anything that isn’t damage is dealers choice

#

You do what you want as long as you continue down the tree

spice spire
#

And Exsang is a pretty easy flex off imo

storm belfry
#

yeah

spice spire
#

Cba keeping up with Exsang in dungeons

#

Personally

storm belfry
#

i would take a point out of IP

#

to put into FD

spice spire
#

But I’m also bad Okay

storm belfry
#

and then rock MA for IW

gusty mirage
storm belfry
#

and not run exang

spice spire
#

Stfu oxi you rank climbing bastard

gusty mirage
#

Wdym

spice spire
#

Ur good even when you don’t give a fuck. I actually have to actively try to not suck

gusty mirage
#

I didn’t even get 3k IO

spice spire
#

WR check

thorn fjord
gusty mirage
#

436 I think when I killed rasz

spice spire
#

Yeah

#

That’s not shabby buckaroo

gusty mirage
#

Not great either

#

Might’ve been 486

#

I remember the first number, I take no blame for getting the next 2 wrong

spice spire
#

In the 400s? Mad deece

gusty mirage
#

Well I’m raiding top 200 now

#

Whaddup

spice spire
#

And that was with omega burnout too.
That’s what I’m saying tho

#

Wr climbing mf

gusty mirage
#

Not even trying to though

#

If my current guild didn’t reach out to me I would’ve been donezo

thorn fjord
#

How did they find you

storm belfry
#

reach for this

spice spire
#

I know.
Good guilds don’t reach out to bad players

gusty mirage
#

WCL

gusty mirage
storm belfry
gray crest
#

Oxi just built different

thorn fjord
spice spire
spice spire
#

They just don’t see the grustle homie

late surge
gusty mirage
#

Anvil and nexus never tried poaching me

#

I guess I wasn’t good enough for them

spice spire
#

Same man

thorn fjord
#

Damn you would have gone pro if Anvil picked you up

storm belfry
#

i was successfully poached in end of CN tier

gusty mirage
#

ghost | oxi coulda been a thing

#

Unlucky

gray crest
#

Me either, I felt kinda left out seeing everyone in our guild get messages from them

spice spire
#

Roujin I haven’t even asked where you ended up

storm belfry
spice spire
#

They didn’t want a rogue!!

gray crest
#

Sds-thrall

#

Isn't that right @dawn kelp

storm belfry
#

I am on thrall too

#

oh you play w snoop?

thorn fjord
#

One of my old guilds moved to Thrall

storm belfry
#

snoop da homie

thorn fjord
#

but i think they broke up

spice spire
#

How you like it so far?

gray crest
#

I don't remember applying to them tbh. They are goofy as fuck

thorn fjord
#

They any good tho?

gray crest
#

Yeah they are good

storm belfry
#

if they are like snoop id imagine its a good time

spice spire
#

WR 413 can’t be too bad

#

I mean

#

They can have bad players but collectively

gray crest
#

Our enhance shaman often uses a dueling toy thing and duels other people right in front of the boss

#

I don't have it but it shoots spheres and stuns people who get hit by it

storm belfry
#

that sounds like it would be funny to watch

gray crest
#

It is, he's a goober

ebon notch
#

so it must be true

spice spire
gray crest
ebon notch
spice spire
#

I got the plug

#

Fotmsham and sparkcieft forever on blast

#

@burnt latch

gusty mirage
#

put respect on don herbo's name

subtle tundra
#

where buffs

#

MAN they need to fix assa st in m+ AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

gusty mirage
#

they buffed dungeon trinkets

#

unlucky

spice spire
gusty mirage
spice spire
#

Oh that’s true

#

Outside of wow he’s a disaster

gusty mirage
#

that's kinda toxic my dude

#

and I'm the one getting called out on reddit

storm belfry
#

ill make a post to boost your morale

spice spire