#assassination

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balmy condor
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Are you just doing word associations

subtle tundra
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i am during guild meeting

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i CANT focus

plucky dock
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
steep gust
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Is the sin faq updated? like builds, etc.

weak plover
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Oh shit. Arterial precision is kinda close to standard DTB now. Could be good on prog when raid is floor POV and it just 1 rog 1 tank 1 healer finishing the boss

subtle tundra
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🤨

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huh

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wait wtf ap is better than kb on st

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ok i might be misinterpreting

weak plover
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ap takes one more zold + ap.. More execute

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not KB.

subtle tundra
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yea i know i was looking at something else

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only 0.49% loss for no exsang POG

weak plover
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Feelcrafting puts that at a dps gain to not play exsang LOL

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When 50% of the time I use it wrong

grim jay
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even more diff in favor of exsang would still make it worth to not use it if you fail it

idle gorge
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
winter gale
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How much you guys simmed at the end of s1 for DungeonSlice?

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I simmed 106k today while trying to adjust my character for m+

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With 421ilvl

balmy condor
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trrrrrrr55555555555555555555555555555

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;' MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

thorn fjord
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Cat?

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Thatss def a cat

stark geode
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
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that's a cat

winter gale
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How the fuck cat knows to press Enter

winter gale
haughty flicker
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cats are smart as fuck

thorn fjord
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Not sin tho @winter gale

haughty flicker
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especially when it comes to fucking with stuff

thorn fjord
winter gale
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I meant sin spec

thorn fjord
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Yeah figured

winter gale
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Better, where would I find those 10k šŸ˜‚

vestal wren
vapid sierra
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why do we still use onyx ring?

distant peak
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because it's good

vapid sierra
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what about eranog ring?

signal badger
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Believe if it’s a 421 eggnog ring we use it until we get a 450 ring

storm forum
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how do i get a PhD in assassination?

vale lily
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
signal badger
thorn fjord
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They do

storm forum
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dude my rl/gm fucked up this tier

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last tier we had like 4 rogues

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so he asked if anyone wanted to swap

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and we all swapped

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and now we dont have a rogue

thorn fjord
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Losers

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That’s what you get for having no class loyalty

junior aurora
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rogue is cuttable tbh

thorn fjord
junior aurora
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atrophic is good but i dont think its mandatory

signal badger
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Lol same story with our guild, we had 3 now I’m the only one left, and I’m otp sin player

storm forum
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i was planning to keep my rogue up for M+ anyways cause i dont rly like shadow for keys

vestal wren
thorn fjord
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Cmon you’re better than that @vestal wren

storm forum
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can we convince our RLs that we're the best spec for getting every external?

subtle tundra
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why did my gm tell me ill have to play outlaw

storm forum
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dude my gm told me I had to play holy

subtle tundra
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i cant play outlaw

signal badger
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Tell him your fingers can not move that fast

subtle tundra
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like i havent played it once this expac

limber lion
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Enjoy the non-external gaming while you still can

thorn fjord
storm forum
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i havent played holy since legion

limber lion
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Before Blizzard introduces 100 new externals

storm forum
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pog

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do you think hunter or rogue gets the bard spec?

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when they give every spec a new support spec

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who have 80% of the power in their externals

thorn fjord
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Why would rogue want a support spec

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Miss me with that

vestal wren
storm forum
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idk if we want a support spec

thorn fjord
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I don’t lol

storm forum
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but every spec is getting one

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in this mythological 100+ support ability future

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top parses will be 1 dps + 19 supports

nimble tartan
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yooo

weak plover
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Lemme shadowstep the tank and slam crimson vials down their throat

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Toss a quick AOE cloak of shadows

thorn adder
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i been farming

unkempt vault
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
winter gale
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Did my 1st assa key since BFA

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22SBG

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81K total

vivid bone
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Assa is pretty decent, and fun

winter gale
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Some nice moments with Carnage

proper tapir
winter gale
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Yes, fun

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Ill keep going for sure

vivid bone
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I lvld a third rogue in assa spec, was cool

proper tapir
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@balmy condor, with these AP/DTB builds do we shiv in the last 1sec of our first shiv?

storm belfry
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Is that build for some fights in raid?

balmy condor
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It can be

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It’s basically the evolution from single target to aoe

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Through cleave talents

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If that’s of value on some of these fights

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Is a bit challenging to know

cursive pendant
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been hearing rumons assass is the new way to go for raid.

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rumors

balmy condor
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Interesting rumors considering it’s the worst of the three rogue specs in every pve situation currently

cursive pendant
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mmmm

queen pulsar
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worst in the top 3 worst spec

cursive pendant
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even single target?

balmy condor
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Yes

subtle tundra
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i love misinformation

hot blade
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so much dooming lately

balmy condor
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It’s one of the worst single target specs in the game with the info we have

balmy condor
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And that’s not meant to be doom

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That’s just like

subtle tundra
balmy condor
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The data we have

minor gate
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blade?

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doom

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eternal?

balmy condor
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I’m struggling to justify a objective reason to play Assassination given the numbers I’m looking at

minor gate
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i mean

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it has ass

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in the name

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twice

queen pulsar
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xD

minor gate
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i do like ass

coarse bear
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I’m just learning all specs and waiting this week to see what bosses favor which specs tbh

balmy condor
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But like

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I don’t wanna play gloomblade simulator

cursive pendant
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I hate sub. Might just ride it out till outlaw gets fixed

coarse bear
gusty mirage
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what's broken about outlaw

cursive pendant
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mediocre

balmy condor
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It’s doing more single target than the other specs

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That’s what’s wrong

coarse bear
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XD

gusty mirage
cursive pendant
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And it cant catch sub in M+

spice surge
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Its not far behind

coarse bear
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at least sin is the only rogue spec now that isn’t the affected by downtime sub and outlaw both seem as affected as ever

subtle tundra
spice surge
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People act like sub is massively ahead of outlaw, and not like its just slightly better on big pulls OMEGAKEKW

subtle tundra
cursive pendant
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Yeah when doing 25's / 26s it makes a difference

subtle tundra
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well sin might be bad

spice surge
coarse bear
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Oh wait is that misinformation?

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Oh no

spice surge
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It was true in bfa Surebud

balmy condor
cunning nest
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Can we hope for a buff after 1. Week or WFR ending?

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Gimme hope

subtle tundra
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perchance

balmy condor
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You can always hope for buffs

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Ain’t nothing stopping you

subtle tundra
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my 99% buff chance forecast is still going

cunning nest
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This is anti-dooming

subtle tundra
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well

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i NEED

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buffs

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cause outlaw is looming

cunning nest
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We wait together for the buffs ā¤ļø

subtle tundra
swift moss
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
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Not allowed to do damage as a spec

subtle tundra
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šŸ‡Ø šŸ‡“ šŸ‡Ø šŸ‡°

thorn fjord
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hot

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Im just gonna play sin tomorrow and swap when need be

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Not too worried

balmy condor
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I’m just gonna play sin

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And then blame the spec when I’m bad

fossil garnet
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sin is my life cant swap Sinscheme

thorn fjord
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Meta play is to learn all 3 specs to really get the full realization to how bad it is šŸ˜›

storm belfry
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Sin is the way

storm ridge
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
thorn fjord
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Rogue is the way Sin is just preferred

storm belfry
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We are A tier dont you know

fossil garnet
thorn fjord
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Is it tho?

fossil garnet
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sin is the way rogue is preferred

thorn fjord
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Cooked take but bring back S4 fated OL plz

fossil garnet
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my takes will always be cooked af Sinscheme

proper tapir
balmy condor
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Shiv does physical damage

proper tapir
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Playing it for 3 years... Never realized that, it has a green icon ffs

balmy condor
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Happens

cold spoke
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wasnt toxic blade nature

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no clue LULW

split cipher
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
gusty mirage
storm belfry
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I miss it

fossil garnet
gusty mirage
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I miss being excited to play wow

fossil garnet
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true and based

thorn fjord
thorn fjord
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And OL slowed down a little bit

burnt latch
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im so hyped to go into a new tier with this many single target bosses. i couldnt play assasiner this tier bcz all bosses have add/aoe but now its all single target i can go back to best spec šŸ˜„

cold spoke
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samee

fossil garnet
burnt latch
gusty mirage
fossil garnet
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and sin was turbo at start (KB was playable)

gusty mirage
cold spoke
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i wish kingsbane was real

burnt latch
gusty mirage
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I wish I could be as hot as @earnest remnant

burnt latch
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got me feeling some type of way

cold spoke
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wish i could play kingsbane like i did in legion

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without 20 random buttons around it

cursive dagger
# gusty mirage unholy dk?

wouldn't say unholy dk around here. people seem to think its perfectly balanced and not the best melee

burnt latch
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is most player here raider or mythic plus? i liek mystical raid best with guild or pug, but also sometiem been m+ push for high key. is depend on player or?

thorn fjord
cold spoke
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idk playing exsang and kb at the same time makes me feel like i couldnt pick one so i picked both LULW

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and hate sbs

grim jay
grim jay
thorn adder
grim jay
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ah

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I'll just buy it

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never really cared for farming tbf

thorn fjord
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We love UH out here whatchu mean?

thorn adder
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im just doing it to make gold for the tier

grim jay
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would probably rather buy tokens than farm smth

midnight narwhal
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HIII, why my crit on add sucks but on putch they aren't bugged ?

grim jay
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might be me, but I dont really get your question

midnight narwhal
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on razsa

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on poutch

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look at crit damage

gusty mirage
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I mean

midnight narwhal
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i don't get why it do that, is it me or ?

gusty mirage
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you have 83 more hits on the boss

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so lets say you have a 50% chance to crit, there's a chance that you fail that 50/50 every hit

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which on 14 hits

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could skew one way or another

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vs 100 hits where you'll likely even out to 50% crit

grim jay
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@gusty mirage I thought he meant that on one his lowest crit hit was 880

midnight narwhal
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ye ye, but why my crit max damage or lower than normal ? that's weird no ?

gusty mirage
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oh

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raszageth has stormsurge during shield

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you get a huge damage amp

grim jay
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it was literally 880

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tho

storm belfry
grim jay
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on one cast

gusty mirage
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coulda been a 1cp envenom

noble leaf
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guys hear me out, imma roll into raid first day rocking KB to sandbag for buffs

midnight narwhal
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na na i know how to pay ^^

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but this think is triggering me

fleet pagoda
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rasz takes reduced damage when transitioning phases I think

gusty mirage
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yes that as well

midnight narwhal
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i did pull were we don't down razsa (and no shield phase) and that was the same

gusty mirage
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when she's phasing she takes 99% reduced damage

grim jay
storm belfry
storm belfry
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Don’t do that to yourself big homie

gusty mirage
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it's fine

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he can just say he's getting used to the new patch

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it's actually a 5000 iq play

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no one reads up on other classes

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no one knows if something changed or not

noble leaf
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^spot on

storm belfry
thorn fjord
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Evil

gusty mirage
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and he's a doctor

storm belfry
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I mean tbh they seem close enough so TE_Shrug

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Yeah well I’m Cyon

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And I’m a sinner

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Okay that was cringe I will see myself out. Someone meet me out back

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My head hurts

noble leaf
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my RL still thinks he needs atropic

storm belfry
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You know I never used that talent

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Just doesn’t exist in my eyes

gusty mirage
peak bobcat
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Assasination over sub

grim jay
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stahp

peak bobcat
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man I can't get enough of the dratnos content

grim jay
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if I see that list one more time I'll suffer irreversible damage

balmy condor
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He’s a streamer he must know

ebon notch
grim jay
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but no doctor

thorn fjord
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That’s the kicker

balmy condor
# ebon notch you're a streamer too!!

Yeah but I don’t make a tier list and claim to know how good ele shaman is in comparison to frost mage when I don’t play either of those specs

thorn fjord
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Got get your doctorate @balmy condor then you can mold the meta as you see fit

peak bobcat
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Holy shit there’s going to be so many fotm sin rerollers

ebon notch
balmy condor
thorn fjord
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Lmao

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Yeah you will

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Whispyrs gotta eat

grim jay
balmy condor
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Love dunking on idiot misguided meta slave cucks

ebon notch
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good times

thorn fjord
storm onyx
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He used to play Assa, guess he is positively biased.... a bit

silk bane
# balmy condor Love dunking on idiot misguided meta slave cucks

I actually did a 25 AA last season as sin. on first pull they realized im sin and they were legit crying and saying i ruined their key. I just said play it out, we timed with like 40 seconds left, and I beat a boomkin getting PI in overall... then boomkin and dh insta left and tank and healer appologized for them and said they didnt know sin was so strong.

sick aspen
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he gave the ol "if there's downtime you wanna be sin" argument, clearly not a whispyr guide reader

silk bane
vapid sierra
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so in exsang opener

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it says vanish garrote when exsang runs out

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when it runs out on garrote?

storm onyx
sick aspen
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you heard the man, shiv got a 20% buff, it's insane

fossil garnet
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gotta be a 🤔 to ever come to that conclusion

storm onyx
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its absurd, all raid tier i listened how my spec is op in guild chat while i am 4-7th on details depending on fight

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that 1 heroic week left a mark

grim jay
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ok guys stop shitting on him, he is just trying to get some money in

fossil garnet
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that kingsbane build the first month left a fucking crater in their brains idk

sick aspen
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getting ganked in blasted lands that one time 15 yrs ago left one

earnest remnant
storm belfry
random drum
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
vale shore
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do we not like flaming cowl with fire ring anymore?

fossil garnet
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maybe its time to learn how to read so I can understand the spreadsheet xd

fringe prairie
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
sullen island
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I'm kind of a lurker but u guys (or the numbers rather) are depressing me lately with this patch 10.1 but I stay focused on the path of sin and i'll continue being happy becuase i know we'll get buffed and we'll rule. Everyone will reroll because fotm and we'll laugh on their faces believe

near valley
frozen jasper
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Are the percentage buffs live already or next reset?

dull cloak
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I prog Raz as sub for 300 pulls. The moment I switched to Sin my guild 1 shots, clearly Sin is just OP

dreamy plover
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
clever sapphire
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we did it boys, assa better than sub in M+

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confirmed

vale shore
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
dull cloak
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I'm curious why they put BM that low

near valley
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cause it's bad in M+

proven jasper
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p sure it sucks now

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ya

spice surge
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There are a lot of curious things about that list

gusty mirage
clever sapphire
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i think bm does even lower dmg than assa

near valley
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the tier list isn't the worst thing

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i mean sub in C ain't it ofc

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would have to see the video for the reasoning tbh

spice surge
near valley
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just for everything they put i meant

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should have specified

hollow river
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It’s almost like they troll these lists on purpose nowadays

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Just to stir the pot

clever sapphire
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"sin recently got buffed, so i would generally put sin in B because of the rogue utility"

upbeat niche
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I believe in the Sin dream

clever sapphire
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ah yes, the argument for sin

frigid kestrel
# clever sapphire

If I remember correctly they said the value of Sins AOE silence is underrated and that was a major reason for putting it here.

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But like

near valley
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they trying to help get Sin into keys

spice surge
near valley
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public service

frigid kestrel
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What?

gusty mirage
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sub didn't get 20% to shiv

clever sapphire
near valley
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trueing

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AP value has skyrocketed

clever sapphire
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and sub is "its buggy and undertuned and got nerfed, and nightstalker still not fixed"

gusty mirage
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how do you win a fight in prison?

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with a shiv.

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rogue is in bad dps prison

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so assassination wins

civic trellis
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Lol

gusty mirage
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because shivs are most effective in prison

prisma carbon
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AOE GARROTE SILENCE GUYS

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as if the spec didnt have that in s1

storm forum
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did they talk about AoE soothe for the first area in underrot?

royal lantern
gusty mirage
near valley
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i'm pretty sure AP isn't even taken in M+

vapid sierra
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what is our first craft?

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boots or weapon?

gusty mirage
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dagger

near valley
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weapon

winged veldt
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assa def high dps cuz the 20% shiv man!

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come on guys

vapid sierra
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boots are simming better tho

storm forum
gusty mirage
winged veldt
clever sapphire
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dude assa is BiS in prison, AP shiv, you just multikill

gusty mirage
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see

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you get it

near valley
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wtf u mean?

gusty mirage
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at this point

near valley
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OL got a pistol shot

gusty mirage
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that is true

near valley
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wtf is a shiv going to do

gusty mirage
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where does outlaw even get the pistol from

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y'all smuggling in pistols with your butt?

storm forum
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yeah but you ever think how you get the pistol in prison?

clever sapphire
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a good sin knows how to los

gusty mirage
storm forum
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its not worth it

near valley
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pulls it outta it's ass like usual

hollow river
storm forum
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you hemorrhage out in 6 seconds

gusty mirage
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notrickz wtf do I play man

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I'm bored

hollow river
royal lantern
hollow river
gusty mirage
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games

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you think I'm logging into wow?

upbeat niche
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If my wep is maxed from season 1 using the spark on it just makes it upgradeable for season 2 right? The recraft menu keeps the ilvl the same

gusty mirage
hollow river
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Hmmmmmm

near valley
gusty mirage
storm forum
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how do you feel about fighting games?

hollow river
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Bored of PoE?

near valley
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PoE more like PoS amirite?

gusty mirage
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I just gave this guy a jewel for free

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because he was haggling with me

storm forum
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and weeb shit

gusty mirage
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he needs it more than I do apparently

hollow river
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Lmfao

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Idk bro I’m bored as well

near valley
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tbf @gusty mirage if u haven't played mass effect b4 u could give that a go

gusty mirage
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bro LOVE mass effect games

hollow river
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Just been grinding since promotion

gusty mirage
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I even liked andromeda

near valley
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not sure if that was you or some other orange name though

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same

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it had something about it that made me not wanna hate it

gusty mirage
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I think its the fact that everyone hated it

near valley
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plus i liked the combat better

gusty mirage
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because of bad face animations or some shit

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yeah the combat in andromeda was top notch

drifting cloud
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im here because of the tier list

gusty mirage
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good

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welcome

near valley
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welcome

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wtf

gusty mirage
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ryler in the spec channels is never a troll guys

royal lantern
gusty mirage
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I agree

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story was kinda meh

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but so was 3's

royal lantern
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ryder>>>>>>shepard

gusty mirage
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facts

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shepard a bitch

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maybe I should redownload cyberpunk

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and play that

near valley
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cyberpunk was good

gusty mirage
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try a dif job or whatever the fuck the classification was

near valley
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but my version wasnt bugged

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so it was a nice experience

gusty mirage
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yeah mine has a graphics bug

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it was rendering trees bright as fuck through walls

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10/10 experience

royal lantern
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i take "young person that has to fill way to big shoes and needs to save everyone, and is extremely insecure about it and has a actual character arc" over "generic military man" any day lol

gusty mirage
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oh and one mission my car was in the ground

near valley
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bruh wdym? Shepard was goated in 1 and 2

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in 3 though it was whatever

gusty mirage
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yeah if we just pretend 3 never happened

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shepard was a goat

near valley
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also the whole morality part of the games were pretty bad

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it's either do the right thing

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or be a complete psychopath

gusty mirage
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just like irl wdym

near valley
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true

drifting cloud
gusty mirage
vapid sierra
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so if i wanna outlaw sin multispec, the best first craft would be a oh/mh dagger wouldnt it? or is that something to sim

near valley
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like you could literally let a planet die because u just wanted to

drifting cloud
near valley
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no actual reason

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not even because you couldn't be asked

gusty mirage
vapid sierra
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for oh? it could main hand it

near valley
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if ur multispeccing just make the dagger tbh

gusty mirage
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ya you'd play double fist weapon ideally

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but yeah dagger in OH until then

near valley
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u can't MH daggers as OL

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unless u don't like pressing dispatch

vapid sierra
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lmao ik

fluid glade
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dagger

vapid sierra
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my issue is i dont know what fucking spec i wanna main'

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thats why im trying to convein to both

near valley
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try all of them?

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who says u have to main one kek

vapid sierra
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i did

fluid glade
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just make the dagger if you wanna multispec

vapid sierra
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i need to pick one for prog

drifting cloud
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youre not gonna get a good answer for craft if otl/sin are your options

near valley
#

what?

royal lantern
drifting cloud
#

it really just depends in what ratios youd play the specs

near valley
gusty mirage
drifting cloud
#

crafting dagger would be slight grief as outlaw

near valley
#

what kinda prog wants you to only play one

gusty mirage
#

don't make fun of my german friend

drifting cloud
#

not like it matters in a month but yeah

royal lantern
near valley
#

wtf is this

#

i feel oppressed

gusty mirage
#

pls direct all fun poking at @spice spire

near valley
#

@spice spire

spice spire
# near valley <@226508540746006528>

Who are you talking to right now? Who is it that you think you see? Do you know how high my parses are in vaults? I mean, even if I tell you, you wouldn’t believe it. Do you know what happens if I suddenly decide to stop meowing? A boss big enough it could be listed on the ASP goes belly-up. Gone. It ceases to exist without me. No, you clearly don’t know who you’re talking to so let me clue you in. I am not in danger of being meowed at. I am the danger. A guy opens his front door and gets meowed at, and you think that of me? No. I am the one who meows.

royal lantern
gusty mirage
near valley
frigid kestrel
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
gusty mirage
#

@drifting cloud what do you play when you're bored of wow

drifting cloud
#

lmao

#

still lost ark

gusty mirage
#

god bless

near valley
gusty mirage
#

new patch soon eh?

vapid sierra
#

what encahnts does sin want? im out of loop lmao

near valley
drifting cloud
#

ive played like 2h of wow a week

vapid sierra
#

for waepons

drifting cloud
#

last 3months

gusty mirage
#

sin will play sophic devotion

vapid sierra
#

again?

gusty mirage
#

yep

vapid sierra
#

is there a higher level version?

#

or same as last tier

gusty mirage
#

can drop them for the new shadowflame if you get a helm upgrade

#

same as last tier p sure

drifting cloud
vapid sierra
gusty mirage
near valley
vapid sierra
#

so wouldnt it be good to drop cowl and grab shadowflame?

fluid glade
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
gusty mirage
#

you can yeah, if you have an ilvl piece higher than 421

sweet dawn
#

Me rn with Puzzle box, 421 icon, 421 eranog ring and cowl knowing I won't be switching from them for a while

gusty mirage
#

real feelsbad moment lol

near valley
#

what's a puzzle box?

gusty mirage
#

like I see people hard farming crests and shit

#

and I'm like kek

vapid sierra
#

oxi you lebanese?

gusty mirage
#

yessir

near valley
#

farming the most useless crests as well

vapid sierra
#

same lmao, saw the pfp banner

near valley
gusty mirage
civic root
#

curious about the opener and bone spike, should I use all 3 stacks of bone spike or just 1 and then keep it from capping back to 3 stacks?

vapid sierra
#

going to visit this summer, gonna have fun progging at 3am on 150 ping

near valley
#

as much as I know where oxi's pfp is from, the only way I can picture him is as Charlie

gusty mirage
#

besides that, blast away

gusty mirage
royal lantern
gusty mirage
royal lantern
#

nvmd oxi allready said the same

#

1am, should get some sleep

gusty mirage
near valley
#

future man

gusty mirage
#

is tuesday as shitty as monday was

#

asking for a friend

royal lantern
#

yes

near valley
royal lantern
#

work is still a thing

spice spire
gusty mirage
near valley
#

what song?

gusty mirage
#

I'll have to google it

#

but we make due

#

do?

#

due?

#

idk anymore

near valley
vapid sierra
#

dude me and my friends watched this vid yesterday

fluid glade
#

im assuming outlaws st sim of 132k is not correct on fuus sheet?

spice spire
gusty mirage
gusty mirage
near valley
#

trust

gusty mirage
#

done

spice spire
#

That’s like one of her more tolerable songs tho

near valley
#

it's a good song ngl

near valley
spice spire
#

You’re missing critical lore friend ICANT

near valley
#

you strike me as a Shake it Off kinda guy

spice spire
#

My fiancĆ©e is a hardcore swiftie and I’m very not

#

And she was in town this past weekend when we didn’t have tickets

near valley
#

you will learn to embrace it

fluid glade
gusty mirage
#

they reverted it

ornate aspen
#

How many CPs are we finishing on?

gusty mirage
#

vers affects embellishments again

gusty mirage
ornate aspen
#

Thank ya

fluid glade
#

i looked at the actual sim and see thorn footwraps and patch on belt

#

i assume based off the findings probably slimy boots instead, just a typo possibly on the embellishments

spice spire
#

Correct

mortal tusk
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
dawn kelp
#

slimy + dagger still the play over lariat right?

#

then throw patch on an already crafted piece of gear eh

weak horizon
#

dratnos and tettles dont know shit about sin rogue huh

spice spire
#

Omw

weak horizon
#

sin in B and sub in C tier?

spice spire
weak horizon
#

lmfao

blazing jewel
#

It’s the shiv buffs

#

Fatty crits now

weak horizon
#

lmfao

gusty mirage
flint tusk
#

anyone who uses a tier list based on their feelings just shows how clueless they are imo

#

he just does it for clicks though and that's all people want

spice surge
#

And even tierlists based on data can be kinda scuffed (see subcreation)

drifting cloud
#

I mean they still try to do it to somehow of their best ability

#

they just always use the meme disclaiomer

#

as an easy copout

#

yeah max is different because well people do it for him lol

#

its just double-dip content because they can just revisit them in 2-3months for even more content!

flint tusk
#

yeh and people who actually play the classes xD

radiant dirge
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
crisp lagoon
#

Hello - new here, but I've been reading all day - been playing assassination since Legion, so know the spec quite well, but I feel like the single target build for me is not performing - early wipe, I was doing 60k+ dmg on single targets, now only doing 30kish on single target while in the AoE/Mythic+ build, I can do AoE dmg hovering around 80k but still 30k on single target in that build...what changed or what am I missing?

echo heath
crisp lagoon
#

Yeah, just trying to get the conversation started - what would you like

near valley
#

logs?

crisp lagoon
#

I only use Details in game

echo heath
#

Without logs you'll just be referred to the FAQ

near valley
#

well unless ur details shows something glaringly obvious

echo heath
#

There's no other way to know if you're pushing buttons correctly and at the right time

crisp lagoon
#

well, to my knowledge I'm not doing anything different than early wipe as far as dps is concerned for button mashing, but the dps is halved, which is why I was curious if anything changed

somber hill
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
somber sparrow
flint tusk
#

what does your sim say you should be doing?

crisp lagoon
#

applying all 4 since I'm using that ability

near valley
#

what does the scouter say about your power level?

crisp lagoon
#

don't have a sim or scouter? more of a casual player tbh, sitting at 407 ilvl atm

near valley
#

bruh if you had a scouter that would be dope ngl

crisp lagoon
#

where do I get that

near valley
#

scouter is a DBZ reference

crisp lagoon
#

didn't watch it lol

flint tusk
#

I mean a sim as in

#

you've gotta know where you're shooting for to know if you're even doing good or bad for your gear

proper tapir
crisp lagoon
#

k, that said 45k I guess - so that still begs the question of how did the spec lose 20k dps from early season 1 mythics with 370 ilvl to 407 ilvl and doing half lol

proper tapir
crisp lagoon
#

sure, had to relog real quick, so blizz had an update >.>

magic bone
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
crisp lagoon
#

actually went up on the 2nd sim...

clear thorn
#

Can’t find this info in any of the pins. Do we have sim tier set % upgrade for 2 and 4 piece yet?

main blaze
#

Roughly 8%

clear thorn
#

For the 4 piece I’m guessing?

proper tapir
crisp lagoon
#

ok, I know that all changes starting next week - just felt odd losing that much dps on a single target by getting more gear

vapid sierra
#

so let me get this right to play exsang
A) refresh both rupture and garrote before using it, and use vanish for gar if you have it
B) send on cooldown with ER that way it lines up
C) DONT USE DURING DM

#

is that about it?

#

anything missing?

proper tapir
drifting cloud
#

catalyst is offline

crisp lagoon
lean fossil
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
vapid sierra
#

what is the sin talent that gives us energy based on dots out?

woeful meteor
#

venomous wounds

merry cradle
vapid sierra
#

you shiv before dm in opener

#

idk if thats bad

half hedge
#

Oi ! I've been a sub main since sanctum, and casually playing outlaw, but i'm interested in playing assa next tier. Last time I checked the spec was at legion, quite a long time, but is the spec as hard to play/master as far back in Legion ?

vapid sierra
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
vapid sierra
#

@balmy condor tiny error in wowhead

#

spell-3120

#

or wtv it says

near valley
#

my money is on feint

flint tusk
merry cradle
gray crest
#

you could also move sbs over

#

right after you apply second rupture

vapid sierra
#

on the otherhand outlaw i can do starege

balmy condor
#

run it through wowanalyzer

vapid sierra
#

im pretty sure wow analyzer is good for sin

#

^

#

what whispyr said

#

he beat me to it

thorn fjord
#

It is

vapid sierra
#

wait do we not reapply garrote for exsang?

#

only rupture thru ER?

balmy condor
#

in opener, out of opener?

vapid sierra
#

out of opener

balmy condor
#

you vanish gar before exsang

vapid sierra
#

what if ion have vanish

balmy condor
#

you fucked up

vapid sierra
#

gotcha

balmy condor
#

you always hold exsang for dm

vapid sierra
#

ah you hold it?!?

balmy condor
#

and you always vanish and dm every 2 min

#

so you'll always have it

vapid sierra
#

thought you sent it on cd and waited for it to line up

balmy condor
#

yeah exsang is useless dogshit on its own

vapid sierra
#

so it would go er>rupture>vanish>garrote>exsang>dm

merry cradle
balmy condor
#

you're just compressing empty space

balmy condor
#

4 min kill with 2 deathmarks

#

is super rip

vapid sierra
#

whisp is my order right?>

balmy condor
#

yeah that's fine

vapid sierra
#

ty

balmy condor
#

there isn't really a set order

#

it's just conceptually you want to finish->er->rup, because that guarantees you land on an animacharge to max pandemic the rupture

winged veldt
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
#

and you want to vanish->gar to max pandemic the garrote

#

but which way you do it doesn't matter

#

you can vanish->gar to get you to 6cp, envenom, er, rup exsang dm

#

that's fine

#

or maybe you just envenom'd and you er rup and then vanish gar

#

that's fine too

wooden trellis
balmy condor
#

no

#

I mean it's not the worst thing

#

but not really

#

you're already getting max pandemic from the garrote that's already up

thorn fjord
#

See a decent amount of players doing that here and there on lorgz

balmy condor
#

so you're gaining at most like 1.2 seconds

#

which is just a wasted gcd

wooden trellis
#

good

vapid sierra
#

er isnt lining up with my second dm

#

sent it on cd

#

what did i fuck up

balmy condor
#

that's fine

vapid sierra
#

could it be delayed vanish?

balmy condor
#

no

vapid sierra
#

during opener

balmy condor
#

it's just not supposed to

thorn fjord
#

It won’t line up with the second dm

balmy condor
#

it might not ever line up

thorn fjord
#

It’ll be like 30ish seconds behind

balmy condor
#

and that's perfectly fine

thorn fjord
#

Yeah

vapid sierra
#

i dont hold

thorn fjord
#

I like the new icon btw

#

It’s qoot

vapid sierra
#

right?>

balmy condor
#

yep

#

just send er

balmy condor
vapid sierra
#

two things, would i want a 7cp rupture before exang? or is 6 ok? and during opener it says that i should vanish garrote after exsang ends. exsang ends for garrote or all dots?

balmy condor
#

if you don't have ER, use a 6

vapid sierra
#

i would never have er, it doesnt line up naturally

#

sucks ass

balmy condor
merry cradle
balmy condor
#

you exsang'd at 3:20

#

ain't a deathmark in sight

vapid sierra
#

so why do people hate on exsang? Whats the issue with it? is it a design issue? it seems functionally fine to me in terms of when to press it

merry cradle
#

Okay ye tbh I didn't expect 2 exsang in this fight šŸ˜„

balmy condor
#

snapshotting, clunky, unintuitive

vapid sierra
#

snapshoppting?

balmy condor
#

it snapshots haste

vapid sierra
#

what dat mean

balmy condor
#

yeh see

thorn fjord
balmy condor
#

let me find my twitlonger

vapid sierra
#

lmao i think i read it

#

is it from when they changed the nodes

#

and made dtb and kb share one

balmy condor
vapid sierra
#

so why hasnt blizzed fix? do we know

balmy condor
#

I mean

#

they haven't fixed it

#

cause they haven't

#

idk

vapid sierra
#

idk if you shadowblades and some cf's know the spec designers

balmy condor
#

just because we know designers doesn't mean we know why things happen at blizzard

vapid sierra
#

wait in 4. you say you have to hold deathmark. isnt it the other way around?

eager sorrel
#

What I'm hearing is the buff whispyr wants is 1min exsang :)

vapid sierra
#

fuck exsang

#

remove exang and give us blade flurry

balmy condor
vapid sierra
#

huh?

#

during just normal prog you hold exssang for dm

#

right?

#

you confused my ass

balmy condor
#

give me a number

#

how long is the boss alive

vapid sierra
#

4/5 minutes

#

and then liek 5/6

#

and then 6/7

balmy condor
#

aight

#

4 minutes you don't get a 3rd dm, but you do get a second exsang

#

your last dm is 2 min, your last exsang is 3 min

#

you hold dm for the 3 min

#

5 minutes you do get a 3rd dm, but you don't get a 3rd exsang

vapid sierra
#

ah i see its all about getting the most pairs

balmy condor
#

yes

#

exsang

#

dead fucking useless on its own

#

if you don't pair it with something

#

it's actually a 0 dps button

#

(its more than that, but you can think of it like it is)

merry cradle
#

So the key is to know how long the boss is gonna be alive. So I should rather avoid using Exsang on its own if I don't get another DM

wooden trellis
#

so for 5 min fights you hold the 2nd exsang for the 3rd dm isnt it?

merry cradle
balmy condor
#

but generally yeah

#

you always hold whatever the last cast is

#

and sync

merry cradle
#

I really hate Exsang. Never played with it in m+. But it's too much of a dps loss in raid I guess

vapid sierra
#

ight ty whisp for putting up with my slow ass

vapid sierra
#

1% better to try and line it up perfectly during itermissions and bullshit

wheat tiger
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
merry cradle
balmy condor
#

in m+ it's basically equal

thorn fjord
#

You’re a real masochist if you run it in m+ tho

#

But I didn’t run a single sin key s1 so my opinion is moot

spice spire
#

So true bestie

#

I got io today ICANT

thorn fjord
#

I got 10 io off a 23 sbg lol

#

Earlier

vapid sierra
#

sub?

ornate aspen
#

If not exsang, what talent do you pick up with that point?

vapid sierra
#

ip

#

improved poisions

ornate aspen
#

oh, right on

#

raids and m+ or just in m+?

vapid sierra
#

we dont exsang in m+

#

unless you hate urself

ornate aspen
#

bless

thorn fjord
#

But I progged most of vault as sin

vapid sierra
#

how did you find multispeccing?

#

!whispyer

#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
thorn fjord
#

Wasn’t bad really with crafting being a thing

vapid sierra
#

can i change my onyx ring anywhere?

thorn fjord
#

Yeah you can remove the gems at the hub in FR

vapid sierra
#

only there tho?

thorn fjord
#

But the same gems are bis for all 3 specs

#

Yeah

vapid sierra
#

also my ice stone disappeared so rip

thorn fjord
#

You probably accidentally deleted it

vapid sierra
#

fuck me

thorn fjord
#

I did that early on too

#

They’re mad easy to get tho

vapid sierra
#

but leveling now that rares

#

aint there

thorn fjord
#

They’re up now iirc

vapid sierra
#

people arent there tho

thorn fjord
#

Just do it today should take like 30 min maybe an hour

vapid sierra
#

not many

thorn fjord
#

Just look for a custom grp

vapid sierra
#

fair point ty

gloomy lake
#

128k ST seems a little low to other classes is there a reason why it seems so low???

#

compared to*

gusty mirage
#

every other spec got buffed, our buffs just barely reverted the nerfs we ate the first month of last tier

jagged yoke
#

do you ever use ambush if you dont spec blindside?

jagged yoke
#

if i didnt want exanguinate for the m+ build would i just get master assassin so i can get ironwire or would there be a better nodes?

gusty mirage
#

yep

#

you'd go MA into iron wire

idle gorge
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
vapid sierra
#

theyll prolly buff sin

#

i hope...

balmy condor
#

I think you ran into it right before the season 2 updates

#

so might've been scuffed as it got rolled over to new pages

vapid sierra
#

ill check

strange python
vapid sierra
#

the whole section is gone

strange python
#

But the community is angry when rogue gets buffed and outlaw looks somewhat okay

vapid sierra
#

wait nvm

#

no its still there

balmy condor
jagged yoke
#

man outlaw just doesnt really feel like rogue to me, wish i liked it more

vapid sierra
#

i love it

#

i wanna try a season on sin tho

#

so thats what im doin

balmy condor
vapid sierra
#

typo

#

its under key talents for dtb

#

raid builds

#

its fixed for m+ tho

balmy condor
#

ah

#

got it

#

ty

vapid sierra
#

np

#

is fixed now

#

no wait not yet

#

should take a few misn to update

balmy condor
#

yeh

#

depends when it gets pulled

#

and when your cache refreshes

#

so

#

could be seconds, or hours

vapid sierra
#

makes sense

#

at bottom of m+ page

#

it says next page voti raid tips

#

not abberus

balmy condor
#

yeah

#

that's a template issue

#

they're still updating

#

will sort itself out

#

I can't fix that

gray hazel
#

Do we know how much ST the 2pce and 4pce give us?

vapid sierra
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
vapid sierra
#

its in there

#

at bottom

#

in st 4.9% and 10.4% for 2pc and 4pc together

gray hazel
#

Thanks!

#

I dont see anything aside the sime dumps and a lot of grey space

vapid sierra
gray hazel
#

tyvm!

vapid sierra
#

np

main vessel
#

so guys

#

VDH is dead

#

is assassination taking applicants?

spice spire
oak sky