assassination

[gusty mirage]

what the fuck has my life come to

[lucid birch]

Drop everything and start bleach

[spice spire]

Login

[gusty mirage]

I can't see headers anymore

[near valley]

[feral mason]

find realz for us man

[gusty mirage]

idk what happened

[earnest remnant]

i have the attention span of raccoon, OP is way to much to catch up on

[spice spire]

360+ episodes of that dog

[feral mason]

LOGIN

[spice spire]

I finished aizen arc

[gusty mirage]

he was here earlier

[spice spire]

And I can’t

[lucid birch]

[bronze pike]

500 episodes left

At least

[spice spire]

WHAT

[near valley]

2/3 way

[ember mural]

[oak sky]

are there 1500

episodes

in one piece

[bronze pike]

No

[haughty flicker]

there will be

[gusty mirage]

hi andrew

[haughty flicker]

easily

[spice spire]

There’s almost 1100 currently

[oak sky]

hi oxi

[near valley]

bruh one piece is a commitment

[bronze pike]

Just the arcs after wano

[gusty mirage]

hope you're having a wonderful night my friend

[main vessel]

Wait, Quake is back

[feral mason]

That is some degenerate amounts

[bronze pike]

Can easily go past 1500 episodes

[spice spire]

Dog I’ve been here

[near valley]

you'll catch up after your kids graduate fr fr

[main vessel]

[oak sky]

i spent my whole afternoon in normal and heroic pugs

💀

[ember mural]

1059 episodes wtf

[main vessel]

You weren’t here earlier

[gusty mirage]

[oak sky]

my night is gonna be youtube and the gym

[lucid birch]

Sup

[spice spire]

I’m literally just not here when I’m driving

[oak sky]

maybe valorant

[bronze pike]

Egghead arc is still on going and we still have a lot to cover in the manga

[spice spire]

I have a long commute

[main vessel]

[ember mural]

quakeTraffic

[feral mason]

I think the only series that went even a quarter of that long is blacklist

[spice spire]

Bro

[gusty mirage]

I wish you'd topple me

wait what

[feral mason]

Like 220 episodes or some shit

[spice spire]

Why do you have that picture still

[main vessel]

[feral mason]

1100 wtf

[ember mural]

its a sticker

[spice spire]

Also ty for the commit topple

[bronze pike]

It’s a good pic

[lucid birch]

Topples new hair do

[spice spire]

You’re doing gods twerk

[bronze pike]

I saw the big version

[lucid birch]

[bronze pike]

Good image

[bronze pike]

10/10

[spice spire]

Me in traffic?

[main vessel]

My new hair is blue blue

[bronze pike]

Of topple pfp

[spice spire]

Oh no

[gusty mirage]

damn

my new hair is graying

[spice spire]

I was talking to doz

[bronze pike]

Oh

[gusty mirage]

speaking of monkacall

[spice spire]

He has a sticker of a picture I sent that shows me in traffic at like 9pm

[gusty mirage]

we gonna hang out when I'm in illinois?

[bronze pike]

Cringe department is calling u

Pick up

[near valley]

we talking salt and pepper? silver fox? or just plain Jane Grey?

[ember mural]

[lucid birch]

Yea

[gusty mirage]

salt and pepper

[ember mural]

YOURE ALWAYS IN TRAFFIC ITS ALWAYS RELEVANT

[main vessel]

I can’t even remember the omega shit post I came in here to post

[near valley]

[gusty mirage]

[main vessel]

Quake not being here when I came to make it originally made it go away

[lucid birch]

I hope it was rogue leaks

[main vessel]

So I guess I’ll drop good news and leave

[spice spire]

Damn

[gusty mirage]

the only thing rogues leaking are tears

buncha depresso espressos

[spice spire]

I saw the nightly commit

[near valley]

true

[spice spire]

If that’s the news

[gusty mirage]

no

he had a cracked idea

[spice spire]

Oh

[main vessel]

When Raidbots nightly rebuilds, Ass Rogue will be able to report PI rankings appropriately

[gusty mirage]

and you made him forget by not being here

[feral mason]

THE rogue patch notes leak

[main vessel]

That’s my good news

[lucid birch]

I commit nightly frfr

[gusty mirage]

can confirm

[spice spire]

Let mister topple

[main vessel]

I can’t remember my cracked suggestion

[spice spire]

Val was here two days man

[lucid birch]

[main vessel]

🧑‍🍳

But it was cooked

Lemme tell you

Oh

[ember mural]

just dont crack a microwaved frozen egg on your kitchen counter

[spice spire]

lil bros are not allowed to cook

[gusty mirage]

or eat goldfish with milk

[earnest remnant]

my gf is upside down, since ive been working nonstop this entire week both days and nights

[main vessel]

Instead of rerolling to Feral cause it’s a better rogue

Just reroll to Guardian instead

[spice spire]

Oh I saw that too

[gusty mirage]

why is she standing on her head?

[spice spire]

They’re only 10k behind us

[lucid birch]

Only 10k dif

[gusty mirage]

how is that going to make you work less

[ember mural]

oxi loves bear tanks btw

[near valley]

what?

[earnest remnant]

asked her that too

[near valley]

is that true?

[main vessel]

Get fucking arthritis from playing bear

[spice spire]

They have a mega cracked damage build

[bronze pike]

Bear 108k sim

[main vessel]

It’s the ToI build

[lucid birch]

Don’t mention guardian sims

[main vessel]

It’s not new exactly

[near valley]

jesus christ

[gusty mirage]

poor windwalker monk

[near valley]

cocaine bear build

[gusty mirage]

finally a tank out dps's them

[bronze pike]

I have no sympathy

[near valley]

true

[main vessel]

Vengeance can do 70k DPS standing still

[near valley]

aoe touch of death can get bent over

[spice spire]

Bro I’m dooming on rogue

[near valley]

word?

[spice spire]

I’m so fucking glad I’m not a monk

Holy shot

[gusty mirage]

can I also get bent over?

asking for a friend

[near valley]

free of charge

[main vessel]

Somebody hit Oxi with sniffa

[near valley]

will even pay my own travel fee

i'm a real homie fr fr

[main vessel]

I don’t have it handy

[lucid birch]

[brazen zodiac]

o.o

[main vessel]

Close enough

Hey

[near valley]

[main vessel]

It’s one of the Jezartroz

[gusty mirage]

why am I being judged

[near valley]

cause ur a lawyer

[ember mural]

Topple knows Jez monka

[spice spire]

[lucid birch]

Inmem out of Jezartroz cosplay

[spice spire]

He’s trialing doms

[bronze pike]

https://tenor.com/view/rogue-prio-rogue-glaives-wo-w-warcraft-gif-24491328

[spice spire]

And jez is everywhere

[main vessel]

Topple is in Whispyrs guild

[ember mural]

need tree form guardian sims ASAP

[main vessel]

Even if I fail my trial lol

[lucid birch]

Very true and real

[main vessel]

I’m not leaving

[lucid birch]

DOMS has a very stacked roster

[main vessel]

I like them too much

[spice spire]

Bless up

[ember mural]

[brazen zodiac]

💃

[spice spire]

Missing some pumpers tho fr

[lucid birch]

Daylea……

[spice spire]

Imagine doms with oxi

[lucid birch]

I cry

[main vessel]

Daylea

[spice spire]

Daylea now raids with two of my ex raiders

Coincidentally

[lucid birch]

She’s happier so it’s all good I just have uncontrollable fits of depression

[main vessel]

Day was good for helping with that

[earnest remnant]

if sub is the go to next tier, im gonna turn oxi into a freakshow of subtlety player

[near valley]

how much is stealthi coaching?

[lucid birch]

Free 99

[near valley]

i'll venmo fo sho

trust

[earnest remnant]

so much that its unavailable to the public

[main vessel]

Stealthi if I send you my Havoc logs can you tell me how I can Rupture better

[near valley]

damn

[earnest remnant]

i can do havoc as well

press ANNIHILATION

[lucid birch]

Lunchbox your rupture

[near valley]

bruh it's 4:30 am

h

wtf am i doing with my life

[earnest remnant]

5:30

[haughty flicker]

its 11:30 in the real world

[oak tangle]

13:30

[near valley]

sorry future man

[lucid birch]

It is

10:30pm

[near valley]

EU diff i guess

all of you living in the past

[oak tangle]

come to aus it's friday arvo already

[bronze pike]

Lunch ox time

[earnest remnant]

its friday in eu as well

dont wanna go to a country where every thing breathing over there can kill me

no ty

[near valley]

EU the reals one

what do australians even eat?

[earnest remnant]

atleast here i can fight the spiders

down there they fcking fight back dude

i cannot

[spice spire]

Vegemite

[near valley]

fight? what a brave dude

i just move out my house

[oak tangle]

in my 29 years of being here, I have seen approximately 2 snakes at my house. 1 was a dead green tree guy and the other was the 3rd most deadly in the world

you win some you lose some

[near valley]

actual toxic material

[near valley]

did u get bit?

[earnest remnant]

nah mate, you just lose

there is no W there

[near valley]

by the 2nd one

[haughty flicker]

dudes lost a war to a flightless bird

not a good place to be

[oak tangle]

i did not, was a lil babby and he humbly slithered away after the neighbours cat got hissing at it

[earnest remnant]

imagine getting ratio'd by emu's

[near valley]

should have ate it tbh

[oak tangle]

my friend did get bit by a spider though, and he was up for 72 hours cause the antivenom or whatever doesn't let you sleep

[near valley]

does it make you tired still?

cause if it doesn't i could use a hookup

[haughty flicker]

couldnt live somewhere where i take a wrong step and just randomly die

[oak tangle]

i doubt it sadly

[haughty flicker]

worst thing we have here are like

copperheads

and they arent even bad

[spice spire]

I’ve had to deal with 6 snakes in my life

And 5 were cottonmouths man

[haughty flicker]

yeah we have cottonmouths too

forgot about those

[near valley]

technically that can happen anywhere

[oak tangle]

to be fair you guys over play how dangerous it is here, like most of us live our life without even thinking about this stuff. just don't go baefoot through long grass

[earnest remnant]

most dangerous animal where i live

is the Badger

-.-

[near valley]

what eu country has badgers?

[haughty flicker]

i dont go outside anyway so its not an issue

[earnest remnant]

Denmark

[upper breach]

Opossums are pretty awesome

[near valley]

oh yeah that's a place

[haughty flicker]

?

[near valley]

look man i'm from the UK

[spice spire]

Opossums are freaky sometimes man

[distant helm]

most dangerous animal in eu is the warlock in my raid

[near valley]

EU just means whatever is in my vicinity

[lucid birch]

About to be 7

[spice spire]

Amen

[spice spire]

Brother find a Bible ASAP

[upper breach]

I catch snakes with my hands and relocate them so my dogs don't bother them

[spice spire]

Seek god. Etc etc

[near valley]

snakes are cute animals

[lucid birch]

You are my god papi

[spice spire]

Say less

[near valley]

rats though

[lucid birch]

[near valley]

those can die

[haughty flicker]

i dont mind snakes at all

[spice spire]

Bro quakewar is trying

[upper breach]

My most recent find

[haughty flicker]

unless they sneak up on me

fucking tricky bastards

[ember mural]

had one in my backyard the other night

[near valley]

sound like the homeless dudes down my ends

fr fr

[spice spire]

Dog I had one in our old apartment, we set up a bed for the feral cats. This mf fat ass opossum just took over and ate all their food

[earnest remnant]

i used to be scared of tigers, then i learned that tigers have white dots on the back of their ears that looks like eyes to fend of potential predators, then i was not longer afraid of tigers, but now of the animal that would want to attack one

[haughty flicker]

who was it that came into outlaw channel saying they got kicked by a homeless dude

[spice spire]

I live in the city

[haughty flicker]

idr

[near valley]

is this actually true?

[spice spire]

I’ve been punched by a homeless guy

[hollow river]

mmmm... La Chupacabra

a wise decision

[spice spire]

14 years ago? While I was slinging tires at work

[upper breach]

Some dude asked me for money and I declined so he went back to his new dodge challenger

[near valley]

did you win?

[haughty flicker]

sounds like some sergeants i know

[spice spire]

Man walked off, I was 16

I was more flabbergasted

[steel ridge]

Is there an actual animal that attacks a feckin TIGER!?

[near valley]

wait why was he punching a 16 yr old

[spice spire]

Mf was literally walking the train tracks

He didn’t know

[upper breach]

He's got demons to fight let him be

[lucid birch]

Me on a good day

[earnest remnant]

they do

[hollow river]

https://tenor.com/view/ksganti-dog-gif-18396499

[haughty flicker]

crocodiles and shit

[hollow river]

la chupacabra don't mess around

[spice spire]

Like legitimately, I just was slinging tires at work, and I hear a noise, turn around, get punched, and he moves on. No communication

[spice spire]

Me when I see the booty

[hollow river]

eat a tiger for breakfast

[upper breach]

[steel ridge]

Wtf is that, looks straight out of half life

[hollow river]

https://tenor.com/view/dame-cabra-parada-gif-21142856

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-and-the-holy-grail-bunny-come-here-gif-12275682

the thing tigers fear

[upper breach]

God I hate Detroit

[near valley]

pretty cool to know tbf. thnx for the knowledge

[distant helm]

https://gyazo.com/7efa57dc4526f42d5879a088ab1b935d

apparantly

[near valley]

sounds like a GTA interaction ngl

do you live in San Andreas?

also wolverines are not to be messed with

can not stress that enough

[upper breach]

Opossums have a lower than average body temperature making them resistant to disease. They also are resilient against most snake venom except coral snakes I think it was.

[haughty flicker]

yeah the adamantium is pretty tough

[near valley]

[spice spire]

Nah this was legit bfe in my state

[steel ridge]

Honey badger says hello

[near valley]

well damn

[earnest remnant]

honey badger doesent care

[haughty flicker]

i mean wolverines are just badgers with roid rage

[near valley]

true

honey badger a big lie of a name

they dont taste like honey

[upper breach]

[hollow river]

they're as sweet as honey when you get to know them

and by that i mean when you meet their stomach acid

[near valley]

those mofos could come into your backyard back where i used to live

[haughty flicker]

dont have badgers here

[near valley]

wish i could keep one as a pet

[haughty flicker]

biggest mammal i think would be just a coyote

[near valley]

there are a shit ton in Africa

[haughty flicker]

and they're rare here

[hollow river]

panthers can come into my (or quake's) backyards

[near valley]

like basically almost every country has honey badgers

[hollow river]

it's a weird thought

[haughty flicker]

i mean there are badgers in this country just nowhere near me

[near valley]

are they black?

are they of a Wakandan variety?

[haughty flicker]

oh i guess deer are mammals but thats not what i meant

[hollow river]

they are literal panthers.....so....yes.

[earnest remnant]

isnt panthers just the term for a black jaguar or a black leopard

[near valley]

thought they could be spotted

[haughty flicker]

well

[earnest remnant]

if they arent black they arent called panther

[haughty flicker]

they're melanistic leopards

[haughty flicker]

so they have spots but its black spots on black fur

cant see it in most

well also depends on where you are

[hollow river]

used to be all we had to worry about was mountain lions

[haughty flicker]

some people call mountain lions panthers

[hollow river]

now there's apparently actual panthers roaming the states

[haughty flicker]

are there really

lmao

[hollow river]

yeah

it was mostly rumors for a few years

[near valley]

all fun and games till a panther jumps you as you get out your car

[earnest remnant]

if we wanna get scientific, all big cats are panthers

[hollow river]

but iirc some guy caught a picture of one in his front yard with his motion detector light

[haughty flicker]

panthera yeah

although actually

i dont think cougars technically are

/mountain lions

/panthers

[earnest remnant]

not the same family

[haughty flicker]

/pumas

how many names for one cat

[earnest remnant]

iirc its tigers, jaguars, lions, leopards and snow leopards

[distant helm]

assa channel finally evolved to feral druid

[earnest remnant]

they are all called panthera

[near valley]

isn't it strange that one animal keeps another animal as a pet

shower thoughts

[haughty flicker]

apparently catamount is another name for mountain lion

idk where people call them that but til

[oak sky]

theres 50 bazillion names for mountain lion

[earnest remnant]

in my country its just called a Puma

[oak sky]

puma cougar mountain lion

all regional

[gusty mirage]

you own denmark?

[earnest remnant]

yeah

im royalty

[near valley]

king of denmark

[haughty flicker]

can you prove he doesnt?

[gusty mirage]

no

but I'm sure this screenshot will help

is there something

in your rules of professional conduct

that prevents you from lying

[hollow river]

the PM of Denmark is only 5' 5"

so

[earnest remnant]

[gusty mirage]

@earnest remnant
2.1.1 "A lawyer must not compromise his professional standards in order to please his client, the court or third parties."

[earnest remnant]

just dont get caught?

[gusty mirage]

2.2

[hollow river]

is stealthi also a lawman

[gusty mirage]

yes

TECHNICALLY MR. LAWMAN @earnest remnant

I have a duty to report misconduct

everywhere in the world

[hollow river]

[gusty mirage]

also

[haughty flicker]

imagine getting disbarred for saying you own denmark

[gusty mirage]

why does your code of conduct

literally sound exactly like mine

[earnest remnant]

cuz they are pretty much the same

[gusty mirage]

3.9. Professional indemnity insurance
Lawyers have a duty to take out and maintain a professional indemnity insurance in
compliance with Article 44 of the Statutes of the Danish Bar and Law Society.

except this

fucking losers

I sponsored a new proposed rule btw

indirectly

[lucid birch]

But compromising yourself would please me

[gusty mirage]

apparently we now owe a duty of civility toward opposing counsel

[earnest remnant]

lmfao

[gusty mirage]

oh

I never shared that with you

I'll DM it to you

[spice spire]

That’s just code for oxi sending pics

[gusty mirage]

nah sending him the scott chronicles

from 2 years ago

[spice spire]

God BLESS

My bad

Forgot

[gusty mirage]

never forget @spice spire

Clearly your parents failed to raise you on the golden rule that you catch more bees with honey rather than vinegar. There were a few ways you could have approached this matter without coming off as an asshole, but yet you chose the one that came off as an asshole. Do not think that my partner, myself, or our firm will be intimidated by threats of sanctions. Also do not think that I will stand by silently while you try to sully my firm’s name by assuming we’d write a “fraudulent letter.” You began this interaction in bad faith by calling our work fraudulent and threatening sanctions.

[brazen zodiac]

o.o

[spice spire]

God damn

I remember you having to rewrite several letters and emails to this guy

[gusty mirage]

I remember me having to write an explanation to the state bar

[spice spire]

“Give yourself a few to cool off first”

[gusty mirage]

my fav response

to him

was me sending him " 🤣"

[spice spire]

It’s better than “I’m just gonna send him my balls”

[gusty mirage]

and he responds with "what does this emoji mean?"

[spice spire]

Idr the exact phrasing

But I’m busy being a lawyer was the tl;dr of his initial

And brother

I lost it

[earnest remnant]

bruh i cant

[lucid birch]

Brother I am unable

[spice spire]

Twinsies bestie

[gusty mirage]

I believe my exact response

was initially

"I'm just going to send him a picture of my balls"

[spice spire]

Yeah

It sure was

:^)

[gusty mirage]

that was two years ago

man time flies

[lucid birch]

It’s almost Friday

[gusty mirage]

[ember mural]

[obtuse sable]

Sup guys, been away from rogue a while. How does the Onyx annulet go with assa, blasting? 😄

[balmy condor]

it's bis all through next patch

[royal lantern]

reddit is gaslighting people into thinking that rogue got tons of changes

"rogue got many changes, they are just not in this list, check the rogue discord if you want to see them" is an actual comment

jesus christ, thats pure delusion

[indigo mulch]

Holy shit 119k with bis gear? That's actually kinda sad :S

[grim jay]

Like

People on reddit

Are pure delusion

Incarnate

[rocky ruin]

I think most ppl on reddit are smoking 24/7 so they can have this thought about rogue changes

[grim jay]

Wdym

[rocky ruin]

They saw something that we didn't

[grim jay]

UHDK is only at 143

[grim jay]

Maybe someone got some of the data for the next balance Patch

[royal lantern]

oh god

scrolling trought the comments

"assassination is broken as fk, the assassination rogue in my raid is always #1 dps"

mate

your raid sucks

[drifting cosmos]

[royal lantern]

thats all

[rocky ruin]

Oh yeah
assassination damage is increased by 3%

[grim jay]

No they increased separate skills which adds up to 3% overall, because its "many changes"

[rocky ruin]

Buff the nerf from the start

[silk bane]

whatever im just still chilling looking at this sim. pretty based

[tacit otter]

2 people in my raid told me after i joined their guild, that they consider swapping to assa because im always #1 dmg

[rocky ruin]

Sepsis

[tacit otter]

that shit is so sad

[grim jay]

denial

[grim jay]

Only 16k lower than some other melee

Lets gooo

[silk bane]

thats not whats funny

abaout this

its that kb needs a 55% buff to compete with dtb

[grim jay]

I mean we knew its weak in comparison. It isnt a final capstone at all

I font think it should be either

[silk bane]

but did u know its 55% diff?

[grim jay]

Since to me KB always felt like something that should be in sins kit anyways

[silk bane]

kinda hilarious tbh

[grim jay]

I did something wonky a while back with like 50😁 because I like the skill

[royal lantern]

honestly, yeha

and dtb should not exist tbh

[thin ingot]

exsang removed/reworked yet?

[grim jay]

Its a finisher now

With no cd

[vestal wren]

just replace the exsang icon

replace it with a kitty or doggo icon, so you don't feel bad when pressing it

[grim jay]

Honestly I dont mind it, might aswell be tuned lower and baseline aswell

It makes sense theme-wise

But yeah, kinda boring

[subtle tundra]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[subtle tundra]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[subtle tundra]

That 119k sim is full bis

?

[near valley]

Ye

[tacit otter]

afaik is a janky implementation of the tier, nothing final or anything

[near valley]

Give or take

[subtle tundra]

And what does he mean by the leaked buffs

[near valley]

Check the pin

[tacit otter]

the "leak" when you find it, is also afaik already included into that 119k

[drifting cloud]

its not

[near valley]

There is a separate sim for the leak damage

Like 135k or something I believe

[subtle tundra]

Yea but I can't find it in the pin

[near valley]

Nvm it's 125k

Oh Whispyr didn't pin that message kek

[outer lodge]

[tacit otter]

probably was mixing something up, whispyr mentioned something with "can add that in aswell". mb

he was talking about the trinket sim i think. then nvm

[near valley]

Rogue - Assassination
All ability damage increased by 4%
Mutilate - Damage increased by 5%
Envenom - Damage increased by 5%
Shiv - Damage increased by 20%
Kingsbane (Talent) - Damage increased by 12%
Blindside (Talent) - Free Ambush chance increased to 25%, increasing to 50% against low-health targets (was 20%, increasing to 40%)

Rogue - Subtlety
Shadowstrike - Damage increased by 10%
Eviscerate - Damage increased by 6%

Nah someone was just asking about the leak

And whispyr made a funny response

[subtle tundra]

💀

Hope I'm getting trolled

[near valley]

No one knows

Gotta wait till today

[subtle tundra]

It's Friday

Wdym today

[grim jay]

@balmy condor so with the "leaked" buffs...
Big boi CB AP TTB AoE nuke 120% shiv dream returns

[near valley]

What I said

Buffs are apparently coming today as per Blizzard Maximum

[balmy condor]

no :)

[near valley]

I'll correct my statement to avoid saying something wrong

"Tuning" is happening today*

[drifting cosmos]

is there blue post today? last one before patch?

[rocky ruin]

Could be

[flint tusk]

like no one is going to know that lol

[near valley]

🔮

[rocky ruin]

But i think that on tuesday

[drifting cosmos]

nvm, they are still doing raid testing

[near valley]

Lfr

[drifting cosmos]

didnt know lfr needs ptr testing but ok

[royal lantern]

bugs are still a thing my mate

and ptr testing is 90% "will the fight be playable at all, or are there bugs that make it unplayable"

[oak sky]

So why are they buffing blindside

I like the talent and all but its already kinda op

Oh right the leaks are fake

Duh

[limber lion]

I mean every single one of the buffs look weird to me.

[grim jay]

Dont tell me you think a 20% shiv buff looks weird

[limber lion]

Mutilate? Uhm
Shiv? Uhm
Kingsbane, but only so little that it literally doesn't change anything? Uhm
Blindside? Uhm

Like it's all super weird

[grim jay]

Thats what makes me think they might be legit blizz notes

[limber lion]

Aura Buff even though they literally removed all aura buffs not so long ago

[raven knoll]

Thats why it is not fake. Blizzard wouldnt make changes that make sense

[pseudo hamlet]

Where are the "leaked" buffs?

[limber lion]

Yeh idk

[grim jay]

And the fact they arent enough

Kinda is a point for those aswell

[junior aurora]

i wouldnt even bother looking at the leaked notes, they look fake as hell lol

[royal lantern]

how much would KB need to see any play at all lol

50%?

[pseudo hamlet]

Where are they?

[junior aurora]

scroll up

[steel ridge]

did blizzard maximum tease something or what?

[junior aurora]

move it off the choice node with DTB and it might enter the conversation lol

[pseudo hamlet]

So it's just some random thing that doesn't even look like a leak, lmao

[junior aurora]

yeah dude said he got it from his buddy in the DH server earlier

[limber lion]

I don't know what the number needs to be, but quite a bit higher. I don't know if just buffing Kingsbane itself is the best idea either.

[balmy condor]

50-55%

[limber lion]

To make it competitive, it has to do more or as much damage in that small window as DTB does in 60s in single target

[royal lantern]

[balmy condor]

50% would be equality

[pseudo hamlet]

55% buff KB for 0,4% difference

[limber lion]

Of course the ideal situation would be that KB is for ST/Burst and DTB for cleave/sustain

But that's never gonna happen

[junior aurora]

if KB competes with DTB then you'll just always take it prob bc burst > sustain most of the time

[limber lion]

A super giga massive KB would be probs a bit busted in itself

Even if in theory it's similar damage to dtb

[hollow dirge]

and even if it did just as much, it would be much more rng, would require planing, 100% uptime during the kb window, and any mechanic during kb would fuck it over a fuckton. that said, it would be good for exploiting dmg phases

[limber lion]

The tier set is just sad

Could have made KB good with different wording

Oh well

[hollow dirge]

atleast you don't give a shit Cev 😄

[junior aurora]

like 40% more poison damage during deathmark

but that would also make DTB a lot better too so

who knows

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-gif-19075727

[limber lion]

I mean even if I don't have time to play, I still enjoy talking about my favorite spec.

[pseudo hamlet]

Just change 4 set to something like: Increases your KB damage by 60% if the Deathmark is applied.

[junior aurora]

not sure they want to add keystone talents req. for tier sets yet

[hollow dirge]

@limber lion I was not being sarcastic, genuinely meant that you can debate without tears in eyes like the rest of us 😄

[pseudo hamlet]

Kidding, but yeah, DTB is just too good.

[junior aurora]

the problem is that in order to make a tier set that buffs KB it would also inadvertently buff DTB because its the same damage type and shit

and they can't decouple the two talents because if you were able to take them together that would be it for any sort of tree flexibility lol

[limber lion]

Yeah I honestly just don't care at this point. My complaining won't fix the spec or the game.

It is what it is.

[grim jay]

Same

Gonna play rogue anyways

[junior aurora]

yeah not like its gonna be unplayable

if it is itll get buffed

[hidden dirge]

I hope the KB buffs are real - DTB is the most boring thing that ever happened to the spec

[grim jay]

Doesnt change anything if they are

[hidden dirge]

Sad, then they should just revert to before 10.0.5 - KB und Blindside are fun to play.
Double-Capstone for M+ again.

[junior aurora]

we do run double capstone

DTB and IC 🙂

[hidden dirge]

Yeah you're right

i was thinkig left side of the tree

the new talent isn't taken at all

[junior aurora]

you can run IC and AP

you'll just be a target dummy on bosses

[grim jay]

Its 12% in that post, 45% would maybe make it situational, 50% make it equal just different profile

[hollow dirge]

what do you think of this? KB proc from bleeds instead, easier to balance, does not interract with dtb. Move SBS to MA spot of the tree, remove MA, move KB to SBS place in the tree, replace sepsis with buff to SBS that we had at the end of sl, where it gives more combos and hits more targets, so we pick between KB for st and sbs buff for aoe. just some cookin' 🧑🏼‍🍳

[frosty cedar]

let him cook

[grim jay]

Take a step back, its dangerous

[raven knoll]

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/animatemeapp-animateme-patrick-star-patrick-star-meme-spongebob-gif-24502632

[frosty cedar]

just give us duskwalkers cowards

[grim jay]

Should make MA give the amount of crit on DM for its duration so we really are MAs

https://tenor.com/view/desmondpacito-cooking-chef-gif-12378159

Whispyr shaking while watching the food getting burned

[pseudo hamlet]

tbh that would be cool, I mean changing SBS/Sepsis to MA place... and then adding the torghast sepsis buff in its place -> the one that spreads and explodes, would make sepsis nice ability for M+

[steel ridge]

make sepsis great again

[grim jay]

Again ?

[steel ridge]

bring back septik shock

[pseudo hamlet]

Sepsis was awesome

in the first patch and in PvP

[steel ridge]

i played sepsis in season 3

[royal lantern]

so it was bad

gotcha

[pseudo hamlet]

Just change "you gain 1 use of any Stealth ability for 5 sec." to "it spreads to nearby enemies".

[pseudo hamlet]

well, for most of the PvE in SL... yeah

[grim jay]

@spice spire missing all the cooking

[steel ridge]

i still have hopes that sepsis is a thing with 4piece

:>

[balmy condor]

you're gonna be hoping for a while

[steel ridge]

😦

[grim jay]

[steel ridge]

whisp always so brutal

[frosty cedar]

buff sepsister by 100%

[grim jay]

Sepsister

[steel ridge]

i loved sigil+sepsis+vanish

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/adamb-james-charles-make-up-hey-sisters-sisters-gif-17066668

[steel ridge]

that shit would have destroyed rasza shields 😄

[grim jay]

Thats sepsister

If it was a person

[balmy condor]

I mean

sepsis would need

not as much as people think

but just the gameplay

is so brutal

[limber lion]

Desync everything

[steel ridge]

yeah the 90 sec cd is whack

make it 60 and its in the game

[grim jay]

Could introduce whispyrs favorite mechanic

CDR

[steel ridge]

lmao

[grim jay]

While we are at it

[steel ridge]

sepsis has cdr already

but its not applicable

[limber lion]

Sepsis just causes you to hold vanish for an eternity

[grim jay]

I mean for the other cds

[balmy condor]

you don't even lose casts

smile

I mean like

it might work

looking at it

but it's real specific

[grim jay]

What do you think of my MA suggestion tho

[limber lion]

Yuk

[grim jay]

Would be great

[steel ridge]

i am still on the hill of fuse sepsis into carnage

[balmy condor]

aight cev

I have dank

so given a measure is 1 min, each beat being 15 seconds, and:
blue - sepsis
yellow - vanish
green - dm
red - imp gar

so we're missing the vanish on 2

but we're getting it back from sepsis

and then simply dropping the vanish

the sepsis/vanish syncopation is so whack though

it should be 4:3

but because the sepsis starts off beat

and there needs to be something for deathmark

it just never syncs back up again

[steel ridge]

what the hell

are you making that into a beat?

and set it as your ringtone for when realz calls?

[balmy condor]

I'm visualizing how to do cooldowns

[steel ridge]

realz nach hause telefonieren

[balmy condor]

I guess it pseudo repeats at 6 minutes

but the vanish is a minute ealier

I mean

it might play like shit

but if this ends up being good

it's gonna be one hell of a tier

gameplay changes pog

oh it doesn't reset

fuck

[marble hemlock]

Wthell are you cooking

[balmy condor]

OH

IT DOES

WAY

HOLD ON

[marble hemlock]

Can you stop before you do something illegal, like making sepsis meta?

[balmy condor]

aight

so

it repeats every 6 minutes

[balmy condor]

and the repetition, in 30 second increments aight ready

[marble hemlock]

[balmy condor]

sepsis
dm + vanish
nothing
sepsis
nothing
dm + vanish
sepsis
nothing
nothing
dm + sepsis
nothing
nothing

repeat

[marble hemlock]

Where's KB?

And shiv?

[balmy condor]

shiv every 30

KB bad

[grim jay]

Are we witnessing the birth of something great?

[marble hemlock]

Sepsis bad?

[junior aurora]

did u sim kb with ur new sepsis tech

[balmy condor]

sepsis better than kb

[marble hemlock]

Anything that includes sepsis is, by definition, not great

[balmy condor]

not like, head to head

but in terms of gain/loss to the alternative

sepsis has a better shot of being viable

[marble hemlock]

Let's hope not

[balmy condor]

the question is how hard do I have to play into the tier bonus

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/you-gotta-believe-you-have-to-believe-youve-got-to-believe-gotta-believe-have-to-believe-gif-18092680

[junior aurora]

if we all agree to just not wear tier then surely blizzard would notice

[balmy condor]

I mean right now

I'm playing into the imp gar

more than the tier

3/4 of these sepsis casts

miss the tier bonus entirely

[junior aurora]

like first week of parses go up and not a single sin rogue uses the tier set

maybe blizz catches on

[balmy condor]

cause the pattern is after dm, with dm, before dm, off-burst, repeat

[marble hemlock]

Great tier

Tbf it's mostly an issue of the weird sepsis CD

[junior aurora]

and the fact that whoever designed that tier doesn't play sin

[marble hemlock]

80% of the people in this channel don't either

[balmy condor]

[junior aurora]

hey sir i got my break the meta banner

those SBGs were tough

[balmy condor]

how long are the 10.1 fights

if you're 3/4 into the sepsis sequence, syncing to the tier set will be a loss, cause you miss a cast for 2 bonuses of 80%

but I think if you're 4/4 into the sepsis sequence

[pseudo hamlet]

Where's Exang 😮

[balmy condor]

every 4 min

[steel ridge]

what a mess

[balmy condor]

it's.... not too messy actually

its just really really hard

[sick aspen]

for his next trick he's going to work dance into this

[steel ridge]

i wanna press buttons, not solve math puzzles

cast sepsis, explode boss

[hollow dirge]

algethar's rogue sudoku box

[serene fossil]

Rogues davinci code

[royal lantern]

only did 10keys as sub allright

[vestal wren]

can you play the audio for this, would like to hear how assassination gameplay sounds

[balmy condor]

idk bout that

[balmy condor]

yeah sure, let me put it on notes that don't clash as much

[subtle tundra]

Fuck 4pc on god

[vestal wren]

4p is kinda meh for all 3 isn't it

[sick aspen]

Cold blood? what did you even build 😛

[obsidian basin]

do we bench varas or will assa actually get some buffs?

[vestal wren]

i think we discuss this for 2-3 weeks now

[subtle tundra]

I don't get benched

[balmy condor]

I just simmed the class tree

[vestal wren]

nice, but would need something else

[subtle tundra]

Last time I was benched a lot was castle nathria and I still played last 2 bosses

[balmy condor]

I can add exsang in

[subtle tundra]

I suffered slg

[vestal wren]

with a diffrent instrument maybe

[blazing jewel]

Shadow dance or else

[obsidian basin]

sorry that happened to you

[vestal wren]

^ basically, people do give too much value in raid testing damage meter screenshots/logs or early tier lists

it is unlikely that tuning stays as is, with iirc classes/specs that are 20%+ ahead of others

[brazen lantern]

[vestal wren]

people are just unrealistic and expect blizz to give zero fucks about balance

[blazing jewel]

We need to add a counter for every time someone asks if rogues are good in 10.1

[vestal wren]

so tuning is expected at some point either before or with raid release

so "is rogue good" is not a simple question

[gaunt moat]

Whispyr changing sin into Osu?

[vestal wren]

he uses flstudio (daw) iirc to showcase cooldown alignment

[brazen lantern]

[balmy condor]

yeah so here I added exsang

I think it adds a lot of character

[grim jay]

Whispyr making sepsis work while composing symphonies with sin CD usage, what a time to be alive

[vestal wren]

def. better

it is the storm rising

for assassination to dominate the world raid

[blazing jewel]

Is that a desk slam

[brazen lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/vergilsmile-vergil-vergil-dmc-vergil-devil-may-cry-vergil-dmc5-gif-24388059

[gaunt moat]

Now you can play assassination even when blind, just play to the beats

[brazen lantern]

Is puzzlebox still bis for assa after the nerfs?

[balmy condor]

it's a brush tool and me just dragging random notes

[subtle tundra]

No cause you can't get it anymore

[balmy condor]

I'd hope not

[subtle tundra]

Dungeon removed

[balmy condor]

would be whack

to have a 421 trinket

be bis all of season 2

[brazen lantern]

Ye i only have a 415 and didnt get a single 421 in box

[blazing jewel]

Surely nothing like that has ever happened before

[brazen lantern]

So hope not

[vestal wren]

i am fairly certain it isn't

[subtle tundra]

I don't have it at all so would be real crinhe

[vestal wren]

season 2 trinekts look quite strong

[balmy condor]

it wasn't even bis pre-nerf

[grim jay]

Item, not just trinket

[brazen lantern]

Oh

[balmy condor]

why would it be post-nerf

[brazen lantern]

Okay then

I thought it was

[balmy condor]

for season 2?

that's crack

[brazen lantern]

For s1

S1 gearings

[balmy condor]

well yeah but who fucking cares bout s1

[vestal wren]

DK has it as bis still iirc

but we are not DK's

[balmy condor]

s1 done in a week

[brazen lantern]

Early in the tier it matters

[balmy condor]

and the nerf goes live with s2

[marble hemlock]

415 you mean?

[misty holly]

How does dragonfire bomb dispensor work? is it on GCD? Do you have to wait for each bomb to detonate before sticking another one?

[balmy condor]

its off gcd

[misty holly]

Basically can I just macro it to another ability lol

[grim jay]

Its worse than class trinket and equal with vial actually

[blazing jewel]

Probably could unless we play double on use

You can min max it if there are adds that die

[vestal wren]

it is easy to check

Even tho there are probably some optimizations, and gear outside of trinkets is current level:
https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mqzALi5gBuWNDhB8XLtHLE

[misty holly]

Looks like it does less overall if you get the expire effect than the single target effect.

Maybe macro it to garrote would be safe

[vestal wren]

looks like bomb dispenser + beacon

[balmy condor]

yap

[vestal wren]

interessting that fragment is high

[balmy condor]

there's a 10.1 pin

[vestal wren]

it sims completely garbo

[balmy condor]

[vestal wren]

for sub

[balmy condor]

sub burst is also nonexistent

can't really capitalize on it

[vestal wren]

take that back

[balmy condor]

[blazing jewel]

Have you guys seen how fragment can be used on resto

[vestal wren]

we can sahdow damage amp 🥓

big burst

[royal lantern]

just crit with beacon, wdym

there is your burst dmg

[balmy condor]

big burst with symbols of death

it's so big

[vestal wren]

[balmy condor]

it's up 100% of the time

[vestal wren]

just wait

[brazen lantern]

Wtf is beacon

[vestal wren]

the rotten will come for you

[royal lantern]

new trinket

[blazing jewel]

What about the rottens big 4 minute burst

[royal lantern]

the effect: you use it, it does big dmg

[grim jay]

If you classify it as a burst CD and it has 100% uptime, are you always bursting ?

[brazen lantern]

Letsgoo

My jam

[royal lantern]

exciting

[brazen lantern]

Where drops

[royal lantern]

endboss raid

[brazen lantern]

Oki

[balmy condor]

if deathmark is a passive, is it still a major cooldown

[royal lantern]

according to 90% of the wow community, yes

[balmy condor]

idk, this sepsis thing is interesting though

[royal lantern]

stuff like "if something has a high uptime, it becomes the new norm cus you are balanced around it" dont exist

[vestal wren]

sub hasn't had burst since legion

[balmy condor]

man would be nice if I could like

sim that with the tier

which is the crux of the idea

[royal lantern]

what with sepsis

i miss lore

[balmy condor]

just sepsis

like

take current tree

[marble hemlock]

@balmy condor can you redo all of that btw

[balmy condor]

and just sepsis

[marble hemlock]

for a fight with adds where you can get regular sepsis cd reduction procs?

[vestal wren]

sin cant trigger this or?

[balmy condor]

how regular we talkign

[marble hemlock]

idk

[royal lantern]

throwing knife....?

[balmy condor]

I mean we could, sbs triggers it I guess

[marble hemlock]

im just trying to annoy you

[vestal wren]

it sims rly good on sub, but seemingly can't be triggered anymore

[marble hemlock]

you know that

[balmy condor]

"ranged ability" is kinda weird though

[marble hemlock]

sending you on wild goose chases

based on some other trinkets in the past

ranged ability triggers off of dot ticks

[junior aurora]

time to tech poisoned knife into the sub rotation

[vestal wren]

it worked on outlaw before but was already #fundetected

[balmy condor]

I'm gonna level my maplestory paladin to 200 and then go to sleep fuck you

[vestal wren]

it seems at least

[marble hemlock]

fulmination charge worked on ranged attacks only

and it procced from rupture, DP, garrote, CT ticks

[subtle tundra]

I also want to sleep

Cuddle?

[vestal wren]

sepsis with tier could be good for sure

[blazing jewel]

Whispyr can you update the maple story paladin sim before you go to bed thanks in advance

[marble hemlock]

you mean

youre gonna go to sleep but also still type on several discord for 2-8hours after you "go to sleep"

[subtle tundra]

Yea I do that

[brazen lantern]

Cuddling is not disturbing tho

[balmy condor]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aAQV9QGR4UywDGhQq1O3X7blXADPGDMvgDIAKfCmrH8/edit

done

[marble hemlock]

says desktop notifications. means you still get mobile push notifications

[junior aurora]

bro 48 pages

wtf

[blazing jewel]

Why

[junior aurora]

"here's my paladin dissertation"

[balmy condor]

if you put the wowhead guides into a google doc they would be 90-100 pages

48 doesn't seem that insane

[marble hemlock]

ye

arcana guide for lost ark is 93pages

[blazing jewel]

“Beginner friendly”
48 page guide

[balmy condor]

I think people underestimate how long guides really are

[marble hemlock]

nah bro

[junior aurora]

imagine reading more than the easy mode page

[marble hemlock]

also fuck you for accidentally having a reference to a skill or tooltip from last patch

invalidates entire guide

100pages useless because somewhere it still says "shadowlands" instead of "dragonflight"

[junior aurora]

tbf some guides will start referencing azerite powers and then i get wary of the rest of it lol

[marble hemlock]

"lmao it says shiv is 9 seconds but its only 8 now, trash guide lets go to noxxic"

[viscid spear]

I had a Wonder Woman look for my Paladin too

[balmy condor]

you say "vendetta" in paragraph 5 of your macro page, Idk if I can trust your talent page

[marble hemlock]

ye

also fuck you

for making me check

[gaunt moat]

Great summary, thank you.
I'm a bit confused on some of the wording regarding the shoulder, boots and toxic patch.
You write at the start that toxic patch is good, but later that we should embellish the boots or shoulders without the patch.

[marble hemlock]

if it actually says vendetta

but then i realized that assa has no useful macros

cuz everything is on the GCD

[balmy condor]

toxic patch is 100% improvement to the embellishment. The two embellishments are about the same

so there's no point in crafting the second one technically if you can get a giga shoulder week 1 for example