#assassination
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think you would be hard pressed to find someone who says sin is fun and rewarding ins m+ though
Outlaw is more rewarding to play than assa rn and I dont like outlaw
No it's worse now
Because people feel entitled to dev's explaining everything they do in this game
Varas if you made it so IC CT spam made you top every meter in m+
You’d say it was fun
Yeeeeeuh
It did at the start of the patch
I still didn't like it
And ic feels very restrictive to an already restrictive spec
I'd like IC to be up a little more than it already is :c
Playing other dps classes with goof AoE just makes Ass. Feel like more and more of a joke because they still do solid boss dps =/
2 min or whatever
Make our bleeds do dmg
And when we bleed a target we know that bleed is doing something
In aoe

Nah you're not bashing devs hard enough
1 hr 15 mins till i learn if i have to log in to my rogue again this week
True
Yeah I'm gonna make a super op gladiator bleed build in PoE so I can live out the real bleed fantasy
Better than rolling feral
Feral's ST is WACK though
Ferals ST being bad is the biggest letdown
Bring back SL feral over current feral
Like I love feral, but legit the ST feeling weird is the thing stopping me playing it rn ]
Bigbite was much more fun
I quite liked how predictable (ironically) convoke was, like you always tigers fury + convoke every minute
By the end of the expac ofc
Bro gear up w Noyc
New Orleans York City?
It is my name backwards you barbarian

Whatre you torn between?
Deez
weird take lol. So if the other 2 specs were doing bad only than sin would be justified in getting m+ attention?
FeelsBMHunter
FeelsRet for the longest time
Arms, shadow
Enhance was mid as fuck in shadowlands
I'm not saying it's not justifief
I want it as bad as all of you, I predominantly do m+ and sin is my favorite spec.
But it's not a high prio when 2/3 are giga meta.
Enhance was mid in SL ?
Yeah, ele was objectively better if you brought a shaman at all
(You didn't bring a shaman)
Ele fucking blasted
At least the one in my raid did
Iusetotems. The legend himself
It wasnt meta in keys bc it was a power towel
And did like negative boss dam
Again, we're talking about keys
I'm still in "spec doesn't matter in m+ unless you're doing super giga keys" -party personally
🤝
well perception is just hell of a drug, you can get title realistically as every spec every season its just not gonna be nice if you mostly pug
I agree
lets say comparing ele and enh for this season, how many shamans do you think are ele in top100 of shamans
hint: its probably more than you think
I have a question for M+ pushers
I have done some lower mid keys 13-15's and i have noticed that my AoE build works great. However when with players who push 18-20's i tend to stay more ST because stuff dies to quick. Is this normal for assassins to do more boss focus over pack as keys get higher?
Idk I take off meta players more bc they had to try a lot harder to get equal IO
Yep spending an hour looking for a group instead of 5 minutes everytime you do key just because you wanna play assa
A lot of people are too geared rn for 18 to 20s
Staying boss damage focus isnt terrible
Bc you won't do jack as sin in a 20 with competent players
I just stay IC/CT build for every dungeon 🤷♂️ well into the 20+. Your ST will suffer but it really shouldn't matter too much
Most of the time depletes happen because people fuck up a mechanic, a route or something else
I was staying more ST for bosses and focusing down key mobs in packs and seemed to be doing fine... overall suffered because of less AoE but i was competitive on bosses so i just wanted to make sure i wasn't making some mistake in doingthat
Rarely it's because of low dps
Just preference / group comp dependent really but Cev's right, DPS rarely a problem. Play whichever you think is more valuable in the key
I like big number so I stay AOE
its a little unfair to also just reduce it to that
even super high keys have plenty of mistakes in them
this week was Tyranical so i did that... but Fortified on higher keys i would think the AoE build would be preferred over ST for bosses
yeah ofc nothing will save you if you wipe 10% on a tyra boss
but some 25 keys are timable with 10deaths
or well if its court probably even more 
For sure, and like I said which is actually more valuable just depends on your comp. If I'm running with a WW and an ele and it's tyran week, ST is probably more valuable
The only time I hit a low dps deplete was in a 26
Can someone explain to me the strat behind the start of our opener?
I know we are dumping cp on that first rupture, but wouldn't it be better to use a different finisher?
If I'm correct (I might be wrong) the second one extend the one that we "dump"
Yeah, it's extending the first rupture to maximize exsang value
it's just like the garrot, use it twice to maximize the time
Oh I didn't realize it would extend. My thought was always that you extend in the "pandemic" window
Pandemic just indicates how much of an older debuff would be added to new debuff if you refresh
what do you call the pandemic window?
Ye it's max pandemic rupture for exsang to fit the most ticks in dm under puzzlebox as possible
That's where you refresh your dots at the end of their duration and it adds the previous dot's remaining time to the new one. It works differently now it seems.
Window where you can refresh debuffs and have the remaining duration on the old one attached to it (so you don’t lose any ticks you paid for)
Oh ok thx doesnt have the correct terms
It's 30% of the total time of the dot added on as an extended duration.
It works the same.
wouldn't ambush be better opener than garrot if we are just burning CP and then reapplying garrot in less than 2 seconds?... i always thought it was weird
Uh huh?
It was the finisher that was confusing me
2nd rupture
What's confusing
No, sorry
!fuu
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the 1st rupture
Yeyeye ok
Oh, you just want it up as soon as possible
Ye
That’s ez expo
And max pandempic
It’s gain to have it over envenom is the even shorter expo
Next tier that could be CT Tho 
because of energy regen?
Well that’s included, but it’s not the whole picture
For our opener
OK I gotcha
Yeyeyeye
Yeah my CT thing is a joke sorry
Yeah I know haha. It's dope that rupture gets buffed with our 2-piece as well
Pretty excited for 10.1
I'd temper your excitement.
40% nature on rupture is strong
But the 4pc is braindead
It's not super interesting, no, but it does seem like it'll pump pretty well
Ah. tbh I haven't tested it or anything. I've been sub for most of this patch
I guess I'm most excited to change main specs
Sub tier is fine imho
Its just one big flat damage curve
The real pain is ss not applying find weakness
true and that sucks
It's fairly rare for me tho
Flat as 

Quake do I gaslight my RL into playing sin on raz tn
Saying wtf I've always played sin?
No
Surely they don't need my bp spam
Well ye idk if they do
Winnable then
But I'll sub 
with next tier will anything change in our rotations? i notice they are working CT into the 2p
well considering our tier numbers might change in a ptr patch today its best to check again in 4 weeks for that answer
Maybe.
Waiting on final numbers before we do the hard lines on what’s what
What ryler said
Essentially
Does you guys puzzle box 3s before pull and then restealth?
that would be a terrible use of puzzle box
OK so how do you fit it into the opener?
You fit it in any time after you apply the animacharged rupture and bonepsike to as far as the envenom after DM
I like to do it after I reapply the dots but before Exsang
So like after your vanish + garrote if you are playing vanish before exsang
Thanks for this channel I wasn't sure where to start with these questions and I glossed over the channel name when I looked for a place to post
Yes
Cool ty
what do I take when my vault is trash and I have nothing left to socket?
Deez
Oof
Yeah and, bitch? Come get em
Legally white man tryna smoke that makeitquake pack 
nerd
ring for bag ilvl?
im still 418
Mog upgrades?
lol
yeah bro
lemme take the 415 "bis cloak from raid"
over the 418 I have equipped
insane suggestion
Enormous
Those gains are for the grustle
Ring check
Ye i got ring with speed too
Icon check
No icon tho
how many rasz kills?


Mf really just got asked what color their bugatti was 
LMAO
I come at you because I adore you
fuckin NERD
How about I just come at you
🤨
No dagger?
424 421
and 0 rasz kills
And mine is crit mast

about time bro
LMAO
better squeeze that CE in before time runs out
I still haven't gotten a single dagger out of vault all season

Oxi bullies those he adores
Have done 8 dungeons every week except maybe 2?
its okay you can have my 421 haste vers dagger if you want
Nah I've seem him bully people he doesnt like
I'd rather go back to double crafted 418s
This aint it
jelly??
very
LMAO
you still running sophic 2 on that terros dagger?
wtf rude

Spaghett
The duality of ryler’s guild - one fully bis beta vs the GIGA chad sophic 2 415 dagger user
its not sophic 2!!!
So that's why he always shits on me for being a fed
I swapped that shit to 3 before the titan orb nerf
Azortharion
He’s gonna say spaghett because pork is illegal
Yea prolly
Beef Kielbasa
Feed into the meme man
My offhand dagger does

Did reset happen
Ye live
Yes
1h ago wasnt it
is armory working for others... my toons haven't updated correctly in the last week
delince lol, only timed a single 5-9run
HUGE red flag
The rest of his dungeons are behind his Patreon 
(I’m sure this joke has never seen play)
*pay

Patreon-locked jokes smh
next season im putting the book of shadows behind a patreon
just like azor did
for hunters
Jokes on you
it also has booty pics of your dad
Y'all using spreadsheets for this
I legit gagged irl
uh i didnt get that assignment
maybe i misread the syllabus

Why put it in a spreadsheet when you can just big brain it and memorize it
I do
you put it in a spreadsheet so people can sign up for your patreon
right @drifting cloud ?

Ryler will not be CTRL+F’d


Pls no I actually have nightmares
Yeah obviously not
any good assasination rogue guide? For ST raid?
nice! Thank you. I actually main outlaw, but noticed that my stats can apply to try out assasination
assa doesnt care about stats regardless 🙂
Ye
Is it best to let exsang rupture/gar actually fall off or is refreshing with ~1 second left fine
Fall off
kk, thanks
Of course!
why is this the first thing I read on here in a week
Bc u don't come in here anymore
it's reset
so with the new wow week
I have to remind quake that I'm his new step dad
you tell that to my new 421 cloak
So are people still coping for exsang removal in 10.1
large
or are we done with that?

didn't see any hotfix/pins/notes/etc, no stone changes ye? safe to smash all these extra ones?

I swear when I see a message from quake in this discord there's a 50/50 chance it's "
"
The other 50 is just 
!whispyr
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Also true
If we get too doom-tastic at least it'll be closer to diablo 4 release.
Nah that’s my job
bonk me da.....
My job is to watch
Brother why

It is not a good day
oh my day is far from good
5 more hours
I’m still feeling odd cause normally it’s my day off and I’m at work
Yeah my days off are Monday and Tuesday
The two busiest days really
And I take them off 
Tuesday off is cursed on big patch days. But in general it’s nice
Haha employment
A MH enjoyer. Nice
I always viewed it as a more intensive amen (used the actual way, not like me saying amen to everything)
Is it offensive to say Mashallah
If you arent a member of that faith
Pardon my ignorance
both everything and nothing is offensive. the balance lies in how many get offended and whether enough people respect their feelings of offendedness
no it’s literally just a phrase in arabic
Nope not offensive

Needs more attack.
is it feral druid?

Let's hear it gamer 
Let’s hear it
You missed yesterday’s session
"missed" implies that I would have benefitted from experiencing it
make it so that the knife holding animation is like the current animation but upside down
so we look cooler


When ur right ur right
I didn't actually have an idea, you guys pressured me

that's all I could come up with on the spot
Eww
Still no raz kills 🤨
insane
Curious 
She is a bitch (consentually)
I am a bitch (affectionately)
fuck
I was about to say
You're my sub
it was whispyr
go back to sleep
*update, 373 ilvl
gaming
it's 1 in the afternoon
when has that stopped you before?
californian loser
I have things to do bud
ever heard of it
Ur eyes are the size of the moon
CALIFORNIA GIRLS, WE'RE UNFORGETTABLE
is that an insult or a compliment
No maidens


Boomers, am I right
Agreoncismale
stop quoting panic at the disco to a bunch of zoomers
you old crusty fuck
it's actually panic! at the disco
True
yeah but I got a smaller wiener than you
checkmate idiot
I love panic!
Well imagine
pls stop yelling
Same man
Always had high hopes
that's why they nickname me Tic Tac Tony
*closes a goddamn door
I would dap you up fr
343 -> 421 gloves on the warrior
Brethren?

i have done this before
You 2?
ᶦᵐ ˢᵒʳʳʸ ᵈᵃᵈᵈʸ ᴵ ʷᵒⁿᵗ ᵈᵒ ᶦᵗ ᵃᵍᵃᶦⁿ
happens to the best of us
Straightest romanian moment
stealing a girls boyfriend is the straightest thing
Bro?
idk, I have multiple boyfriends in my basement but I don't think I'm entirely straight
Wait thats alpha i usually try to steal a guys girlfriend
thank god you understand
when the song came out they were Panic At The Disco, but then they renamed again
then again, who cares
no changes:) soon dont worry
no changes 🥲
they listened to me ❤️ thank god blizzard has some sense
why change something thats already great
So what’s the main mister warcieft
boosted this guy to max today, going for 8/8 with our alt raid tomorrow
not even joking btw
Sheesh
glad they're not touching rogue, its looking really broken atm and ull probably play multiple in the next raid
sin is looking broken???
what kind of copium do you have my man because i want some
🌿
i dont know the herbie lore so ill take your word for it
im new here, no lore

any nerfs?
im just salty about the complete radio silence. we got a post back when exsang got fucked saying they were reworking it for 10.1 and now they arent even acknowledging the spec
all good nice
We’re smoking on that cope pack
Lowkey im just happy we aren't in slowmode! huge day for sin
It’s character growth boys
10 whole minutes since notes dropped
And no slow mode


that bearclap is sick
better character arc than all of marvel phase 4 tbh
🤨
Ah man. I love these new changes
@spice spire you jinxed this
Chats going so slow they’ll surely notice that they’re a good lad/lass
if we didn't get news on an exsang rework by now then we arent getting one with less than a month until patch. just something they scrapped to rush this out before d4 launch

time to change that?
No
Sin gets no changes and the discord isn't in flames in a whole checks notes 11 minutes!
Well done guys ❤️


honestly tho
I am much happier with everyone meme congratulating each other on not losing their shit
than everyone losing their shit

Yet
when do we add a timer like "0 days since slow mode"
Man have faith
to see how far we get
We do
honestly can we get a channel appreciation and growth pin? we've come a long way! we are mature now... look at me now cassie WHOS NOT MATRURE ENOUGH.... SMH


A whole week?! We’re so grown
I’m so proud of everyone
Even me?
dont make me



what are you hearing
I’m hearing no dooming
am i supposed to be dooming??
CTRL+F hammer of wrath
Wait big changes
It's just the 5 stages of grief - we've finally reached acceptance. No more dooming.
The legendary duskwalkers works on death mark now 
Ong?
Fr

Shadowlands enjoyers rejoice
We irish now
Next week boys, i believe!
I think the An Dooming adds character
Workplace morale is better because of you
I try

it means the dooming in irish
L little german boy hope you like potatoes 
We have potato salad in Germany I’ll be okay
wait, is whisp german or american now
thought it was american with german parents or smth like that
gl to you little non R1 peasents huge changes
According to the German and American governments, I’m both

@balmy condor what does this mean
It means nothing
it means rogue about to be bussin bussin in 400 bracket
based

its just related to that pvp talent modifying cloak afaik
you’ve played this game enough to know that wowhead datamining pulls random shit out of the code sometimes
yes sir sry sir
dude i literally said they could do a talent for cloak to be a physical immune in beta
and now it pops up in pvp

They made duskwalker's patch work on DM.... CHANGING EXSANG FOR DUSKWALKER POG?!
oh wait
am i allowed to doom
or is that illegal
i forget the rules
either way duskwalkers was good before because of flag cdr
we dont rly have that same synergy anymore
outside of 3 min exsang
People talking about the name change but no mention of duskwalker change
if they put duskwalkers in the talent tree
i will never play this spec again
fuck cdr
(on sin, it has its place on like 30 other specs in the game)
the playstyle of sofo sin reminds me of current ret
i was a big fan
shame the tier set was 
cool
the timing was objectively dogshit

I’d prefer it if it were just passive
1 min reduction
Don’t gotta shoehorn an energy cdr thing into it
so 4 set then actually becomes a lot more powerful now if duskwalker cope is real
hehe i rember when we were told there would fixes to talent trees during the expac
hehe
its fine
survival 8% aura buff
year of the spear
ipetmypet isnt getting geared for nothing
it would be a little bit bland i guess?
Would it
L cdr
bro agreon
L not 2 min
at least im discussing the changes
what changes
Because we can go from like 2500 energy to 2550 energy spent or what
i just want kingsbane man
They changed the name of our tier set and updated an old legendary, 10/10 changes Blizz care ❤️
means they remembered us
remembered (and did nothing)
anyone know what stones to put in for bm hunter
Dangerously close to dooming

@sweet dawn get the white board ready
we got 30 min of no dooming. huge prog! see u guys same time next week. we're gonna get to 1 hour mark! make sure to pack enough copium
1hour?
bro, where do you make prog like that
its 2-3 3hour prog days to reach 34min once
Got a 4 month old collie puppy today, no doom allowed
DON'T MAKE ME CHANGE THE BOARD
eat
Bless up
Enjoy them 
pics or didnt happen
this is Meg
wait a minute that should say cooming
green is cooming when our class is mentioned in patch notes
and thats why it's not labeled
im trying to ascend to acceptance
Hi, are we dooming?
So is our tier set fixed now?
Damn, I was ready for a good doom
outlaw tier got nerfed so I guess we can be excited
dont let ahri bonking you scare you. come join us over here with the real doomblade bhoys
they are bringing back duskwalkers confirmed
bonk
the spec works so good and its so perfect - the only change possible is a tier set NAME CHANGE
BIG
🥂


yeah it has a name and everything! looking good to me idk
They should give sin a pet
Like a floating stealth dagger following us around everywhere
Shank command
Is there any synergy between exsanguinate and deathmark? Like is there value in lining then up or can I use them when they're up?
You exsanguinate then deathmark because the deathmark will copy the dots that are now ticking 80% faster
@hexed flicker #assassination-faq message
Oh sad I've been doing that backwards.
Cheers guys.
When exsang comes off CD at 3 minutes, you save it for your 3rd DM at 4minutes instead of sending it straight away
Unless you won't get to that 4 minutes in which case it's better to send it (preferably with an echoing reprimanded rupture)
3rd deathmark? Mine has a 2 minute cd.
you get one on pull, one at 2 minutes and one at 4
1 on open, 1 at 2 mins, 1 at 4
Oh wait no that works out. I can't math.
Too early for brain smart making. I need coffee.
personally I like the name poisoned edge so yeah we looking lit
Yup, really looking forward to it
3 more builds to give you an answer
Dont let doom overcome you
Embrace positivity
If u think next tier is gonna be fun, it will be. Blizzard cant ruin your mood!
Embrace equilibrium
Tanking doesnt = doing tank dps sir
embrace negativity
Its a good tier for assa rogues to become raid leaders
No need to focus on damage, just guide the raid to victory
I personally find that thrilling
seli return as raidlead? 
Its a great tier to do so
Lot of single target focus this next tier it seems, so I'm pretty excited
Quakethree is ready 
idk about you doomers but im legit excited about next tier, its gonna give me some needed time to finally achieve my goal of becoming R1 surv NA
Amen
Go chase that crown, king!
did u gaslight them into letting u play sin?
Why would anyone want to play sin on rasz
all star points, aside from those idk
mostly because theyre addicted to this abusive relationship with the spec atleast in my case idk
Feeling useless for half the fight doesn’t sound fun
At least as sub you can lie to yourself by padding
Idk if they do
Sub does more ST damage now
Unlucky
There goes everyone’s cope of playing assassination
?
am i playing an old build
no i checked faq
?
sin definitely does more boss damage than sub on rasz
I guess if we ignore logs then sure you're right
you edited both those messages and still they don't make any sense
I don’t see dance in that build
Execution buddy
I’m a pro coper
but u have 2 steps
I finally got the assassination heroic eranog ring
Step 1: log in
Step 2: snake loot
@thorn fjord ring dropped in my new guild and i didnt get it
sub will do more, if any sub rogue actually went single target talents, but they dont since intermissions are a thing
but logs ofc wont show this
nah bro
the spec that specs 100% ST because it does less aoe than a prot pally on a fight where there's actual aoe doing more ST than sub
is because sub is oversimming

bro @gusty mirage this new guild is rough
Ye ok thats what I thought
why
crawled through terros
btw I'm using all my emotional willpower
to not say "no, why do you think I asked?"
8 deaths on terros it looks like
big torch resets
Surely the spec that can only singletarget is way ahead of the specs that can do singletarget but also aoe

hey look, the rogue specs are balanced

Facts
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be
@gray crest what guild are you in
sds-thrall
maybe ill see you around
0 dance tho checkmate

2 step (notice no s) is a dance. Was supposed to be a joke 
You love it when I 1, 2 step

im gonna 2 step on ur balls
videos?
on my onlyfans
say less
Fotmballs
btw we phased rasz to p3 at like 31/32%
cause of the nerfs lol
gonna be interesting what we can cook up thursday
did you still lust p1?
ya
you just push before 4th winds now
lmao
p1 intermission
both sides get back before rasz has a chance to land
so you just get giga p2 uptime now
I fully expect colour and nocco to phase it less than 30%
like it'll fall over in p3
you just lust a little later in p3 than normal
def gonna phase under 30%
cause we were at like 31 or 32%
we got it to 31% before these nerfs
We were phasing at 30.5
Pushed at 29% tonight
gotta push to 25% before 3rd shield
recommend some m+ youtubers
I dont think there is any
!fuu
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is freezing ice still the stone to go for ST, cuz i see the thuderig in the sheet ?
or they are close so i need to sim for myself
🤔
what sheet
the rogue speadsheet above
thx a lot


id love to change some stones for 100 dps





















