assassination

[thorn fjord]

Around 70

[gusty mirage]

Okay step 1 complete you got sparks figured out

[gray crest]

Are you using hero

[gusty mirage]

Step 2 people do more damage

[gray crest]

Or lust

[silk bane]

idk man our priest has his cds set for winds his 5th wind plan is literally 'brez cuz idfk'

[thorn fjord]

Yeah sparks aren’t the issue

[uncut echo]

[thorn fjord]

People can’t do their rotation properly

[gusty mirage]

Well then you’re fucked idk man

[thorn fjord]

Yep

[gusty mirage]

Wait for the next set of nerfs

[thorn fjord]

Think we’re gonna keep swapping the bads

We had some call outs

Last night

[silk bane]

where in the fight are u guys right now?

[thorn fjord]

Going in to intermission

[silk bane]

first one?

[thorn fjord]

Yeah

[silk bane]

oh fuck yeah gl. our longest prog was first intermission i think cuz these horny fucks couldnt wait 2 seconds to bait the laser.....

[gusty mirage]

They have a loooong ways to go lmao

[silk bane]

yeah he doesnt know whats about to hit them

[gusty mirage]

My fav thing about rasz is when you get to p2 with everyone alive and it seems like it’s gonna be over soon

Then that first shield hits

And you’re like fuck

This is gonna take a while

[silk bane]

[thorn fjord]

Yeah

It’s our fourth day of prog this Sunday

Hoping we can get the damage

We’ve got an arms war struggling too

[spice spire]

[thorn fjord]

And a lock lost all his WAs last night so he was out trying to load a back up of windows

Sunday was a disconnect night… those are fun

[silk bane]

classic

[thorn fjord]

So I think Sunday barring any callouts we should be good to start intermission prog

[uncut echo]

[gray crest]

This gives me PTSD of when we had an arcane mage that wasn't playing with WAs for weeks

[thorn fjord]

I lost all my@weak auras back in Dec

So I feel the pain

[gray crest]

He lost it and didn't bother fixing it

[thorn fjord]

That’s crazy lol

[gusty mirage]

oh you mean the one and only

idcal-illidan?

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

"I can play other specs"

then only plays arcane during his trial?

[gray crest]

Doesn't play them lol

[gusty mirage]

even on fights that are terrible for arcane?

[copper hazel]

everyone lies in their interview, right? right?!

[royal lantern]

me during all trials

[ebon notch]

someone went one step further and reported it to my guild

[royal lantern]

"can play all specs"

1tricks assa

[ebon notch]

i am now neutral at almost all times

[uncut echo]

[thorn fjord]

Ever find out who did it?

[uncut echo]

I know exactly who did it

[gray crest]

Do I need to break some knee caps?

[uncut echo]

No, you're fine

They didnt purposefully

[ebon notch]

did they think it was funny or

[uncut echo]

Happens

Incredibly uncommon Ahri L

[spice spire]

My guild is in here

Lurking

Plotting my downfall

[uncut echo]

As long as Genburst has nothing to say

We vibing

[thorn fjord]

Can always call the leg breakers

[oak sky]

Its me

[thorn fjord]

@gray crest and I got chu

[spice spire]

Gen’s a bitch

[oak sky]

I'm your guild

[spice spire]

I love and hate him. Common feeling

[uncut echo]

Oof

[spice spire]

He’s certifiably on one recently tho

[uncut echo]

Yeah

Lmao

[spice spire]

So I made him gendalf the grey (parse)

[thorn fjord]

Would be nice for someone to try and poach me

It’s never happened

I must be bad

[spice spire]

I was attempted poached before whispyr

It has nothing to do with skill trust me

[thorn fjord]

Bro you’re better than the majority of the player base

[uncut echo]

I'd whoop their ass and feel bad about it

That's how lovely quake is

[spice spire]

I am high key a shitter

[thorn fjord]

Same here

But we’re still better than a lot of the other players lol

Shits crazy

[uncut echo]

I'm terminally based

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/based-uberbased-gigabased-based-on-what-gif-21931268

[strange python]

Poaching mails never come from the guilds you wanna join

[spice spire]

Correct

[strange python]

Like fucking grey.

[oak sky]

Or anvil gaming

[thorn fjord]

I wouldn’t take the offers I just want the ego boost lmao

[spice spire]

Well not always correct.
I’m not one to raid long hours, I’ve other shit to do and work a lot. Elusive reached out but I know they’ll raid 7 days in a row if they need to, and uh.
That ain’t me

[oak sky]

[ebon notch]

@spice spire link logs

[oak sky]

Elusive loves reaching out

[spice spire]

Yeah I know

[strange python]

Elusive is high key atrocious for their time spent raiding.

[gusty mirage]

never been poached by elusive

[spice spire]

I mean it’s no secret my character’s name

[gusty mirage]

[strange python]

Barely getting top 50 by those hours is real bad.

[spice spire]

My logs are awful

[gusty mirage]

same

[spice spire]

I literally walk in from work, and raid. So no reset time we are just sending ‘er

[thorn fjord]

Can’t be worse than mine

[grim tangle]

anvil gaming raids 12 hours a week.

[ebon notch]

grey raids 7 days

cant wait to see them prog next tier

[storm belfry]

That sounds horrible

[spice spire]

You’ve killed 5 more bosses than I have

[thorn fjord]

We’re a 9h guild tho

[storm belfry]

I like 6 hrs and still get CE.

I think 9 would be my max

[strange python]

There's so many guilds in the US 15-50 range that would be dogshit ranks if they didn't raid like it's a part time job

[ebon notch]

you're 2/8?

[spice spire]

Yeah and we’re roster bossing on sennarth so

[ebon notch]

oooo

[spice spire]

4 more

My ass is not paying attention

I thought he killed Raz

[ebon notch]

i actually have not ever talked to you about your prog

[oak sky]

No terros terry?

[spice spire]

Sennarth rough.
Don’t have time to relearn to run because of the stupid fucking ice bug.

[thorn fjord]

Rude

[ebon notch]

wtf

how rude

[thorn fjord]

Lol jk

Got you

[spice spire]

We killed Terros like a month ago

[ebon notch]

lmao jk me too haha

[thorn fjord]

[ebon notch]

wait what bug

[oak sky]

So 3/8?

[spice spire]

If you move your camera while mouse running, your character gets stuck running in circles on the ice

[spice spire]

Yeah

I move camera by default because I’ve had to for like 5 tiers now to figure out others on fights

[grim tangle]

also imperative is terrible and I want that on the record

[ebon notch]

ive literally never seen this

do you have a clip

[spice spire]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ObservantWittyMinkMingLee-S-OEA-SfzeBW4Qf1

Not from me

But literal Reddit thread on it

[ebon notch]

HAHHA

thats fucking gold

[spice spire]

Yeah legit every single pull

This happens to me

[thorn fjord]

That’s awful

I’ve never seen that happen

[spice spire]

It’s

[lusty surge]

We just killed sennarth last night

[royal lantern]

thats a weird week

[royal lantern]

gz mate

[lusty surge]

So many people had that camera bug

It's really frustrating

[uncut echo]

I'm suffering in Dathea purgatory

[lusty surge]

Hard to keep up morale when your only warlock can't place gate cuz hes spinning and the pull is over through no fault lol

[royal lantern]

yOu CaN NoT OuTrUn A CyClOne

"proceeds to outrun it"

[thorn fjord]

We never had that issue

Super weird

[spice spire]

Extremely

[lusty surge]

It used to be intermittent

But thus week it was like 4 people

And at least 1 person per pull

Seems like grip or rescue can fix it tho

[ebon notch]

i dont think she planned for that ngl

[spice spire]

You just have to get off the ice once you get the bug. Any way to get off of it fixed it

[lusty surge]

Ahh

[storm belfry]

Hm I never knew this was a bug

I did it as rdruid so I just would shift to remove it

[spice spire]

[thorny pond]

Just turn your monitor off

no camera bugs then

[spice spire]

True

[sudden canyon]

no sin rogue mention in 10.0.7 patchnotes

just another day

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-dead-beating-gif-9285411

Don’t come in here with that shit @sudden canyon it’s been nice in here today

[brazen zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-chuni-sleep-gif-20108376

[spice spire]

Mood

[sudden canyon]

i wasnt here yesterday to complain tho

[spice spire]

It doesn’t have to be daily. We can just enjoy each other’s company while suffering

[silk bane]

Based. just enjoy what we have here together while it lasts, before everyone leaves and they delete the spec forever

[sudden canyon]

wish i could tansfer valor to an alt

[gusty mirage]

how did I miss this

good luck trying to get me into a good guild

make sure you swap my wcl to boss damage so it looks better

[echo heath]

My wife had her kid at the perfect time after killing sennarth mythic, can't bench the sin rogue if he can't make raid

[thorn fjord]

Its your kid too right?

Rigght???

[echo heath]

Looks like me, we will see if she develops an affinity for making terrible gaming choices

[limber lion]

He is the sin rogue in that story

[thorn fjord]

Gratz lol

[limber lion]

Not the wife

Lol

[limber lion]

Move to EU and join Nocco :------)))

Actually you can probs play with a bit of a ping

I'll come back when PI/externals get removed

[spice spire]

Holy based

[gusty mirage]

absolutely not

[oak sky]

6 days of raid

[pure bridge]

Y

[royal lantern]

dont worry, they just add 6new spec based externals then

cant wait for survival crit dmg buff, arcane mage elemental dmg buff and shadowpriest 5%haste buff

🙂

[nocturne lagoon]

join elusive i heard they are not racist

[royal lantern]

its just banter

and dark humor

[thorn fjord]

Well the opposite of dark if ya catch my drift

https://tenor.com/view/boom-gif-19507576

[oblique geode]

what does this mean ? do we crimson tempest or slice and dice here (marked it in red what im talking about)

[storm belfry]

Assuming it means use snd if not up. If it is up, instead use ct

[oblique geode]

thank you 😄

[spice spire]

That’s exactly what it means

[storm belfry]

[unreal bear]

or dont use snd at all and just look away from your target

[storm belfry]

[unreal bear]

on second thought, intentionally doing bad on aoe is probably why they put CT on tier

fuk

[royal lantern]

no

CT is on the tier because "oh, assa does bad aoe, lets fix it"

aka, yet another temporal bandaid 🙂

(lets ignore that its not even a real aoe increase because the current tier set boosts all bleed dmg)

[unreal bear]

im gonna miss it

[strange python]

I hear they also dont overtime

[autumn frost]

Sigh. Just got invited into a 20 Azure vault. Then I got asked if I was assassination. I said yes. Got kicked.

[royal lantern]

dodged a bullet

like

people that do stuff like that in a 20 keys are shitters

[gusty mirage]

[royal lantern]

[thorn fjord]

bro you gotta lie

Tell em naaah just came from raid

Pretend to change and let em drop the key

[copper hazel]

as if by magic, warlock gets a buff the week before patch

[thorn fjord]

Theyre getting buffs

No magic lol

[gusty mirage]

honestly

demo needs it

it kinda sucks ass

destro and aff tho?

[copper hazel]

aff got a nerf, tbf

so we let that one slide

[gusty mirage]

yeah

cause they're about to break 110k in 10.1

lmao

[copper hazel]

looool dafuq

[gusty mirage]

10.0.7

sorry

my b

yeah those are in addition to the previous buffs they're getting

go look at the patch notes

[thorn fjord]

Didnt see the 1.2 Mil DPS on tree boss trash?

in AA

[oak sky]

unholy dk does that too

[thorn fjord]

https://clips.twitch.tv/CrispyCrispyMeerkatGOWSkull-58esKQValdsR8HB1

1.6 my mistake

Oh thats not a lock

MB

[oak sky]

ive seen unholy crack 1mil for sure

idk how geared it was though

[velvet ridge]

OH boy

[thorn fjord]

Er yeah it is lol

[velvet ridge]

new tuning!

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-fridge-empty-gif-15623425

[oak sky]

destro tho

[frozen tide]

This feels like a basic rogue question but what stats do I need to be focusing on on armor pieces

[gusty mirage]

crit mastery

[limber lion]

item level

[gusty mirage]

but just equip whatever's higher ilvl

once you get to like 415+

then worry about stats

[frozen tide]

I have two pieces that are the same ilvl

[autumn frost]

Make sure to only equip leather pieces!

When I was new i made that mistake

[gusty mirage]

bro?

[frozen tide]

I know that much lol

[gusty mirage]

mathrim out here playing wow classic

[autumn frost]

Also levelled up an int scalpel.

[gusty mirage]

oh no

[autumn frost]

I only started in shadowlands tbf.

And that's when I made the mistake

[limber lion]

I feel like using int daggers happens quite often to many people

[silk bane]

im convinced that theye reading this discord and just trolling rogue players at this point. sub -> pls stop making us GB so much we dont wanna be outlaw. tuning : we removed your ability to dance in pvp. only gb from now

[limber lion]

I think I've faulted to it at some point as well

[oak sky]

i equipped a sword once

[gusty mirage]

ya doesn't help that most items are multi statted

[frozen tide]

This or that

[autumn frost]

Flip a coin.

they basically equivalent but we always like crit.

[gusty mirage]

crit vers

[autumn frost]

although haste/master is higher in the 2nd stats

[gusty mirage]

that way if you wanna play sub or outlaw

you can use that neck

[autumn frost]

goes crit >mast=haste>vers

Blasphemy.

Go to the sub discord.

or outlaw

[storm belfry]

Isn’t there some new ring or something next week we get

It’s just to use until 10.1 yeah?

[gusty mirage]

it's terrible for assassination

if you have a mythic eranog ring & a 421 jeweled signet

it's like

-0.5% dps or some shit

[storm belfry]

Even w the new gems or whatever?

Atm I still don’t have Eranog ring

[gusty mirage]

I mean without the gems all it gives you is stamina

[storm belfry]

Using a crit mastery w socket at 415 and melandrus at 415

Oh there is no stats?

[gusty mirage]

then ya you'd prolly make good use of it

[storm belfry]

I’ll be honest I haven’t looked at it

[gusty mirage]

you can sim the ring w/ gems now btw

if you put ptr=1 at the top of your input

[storm belfry]

Oh I’ll do that when I get home

[balmy condor]

if you got a doggers 415 ring

you'll probablyt find like

half a %

by fully upgrading the bis gems

[autumn frost]

I'll be able to replace my eranog ring at least

[storm belfry]

Doesn’t seem worth

[balmy condor]

you won't though

[autumn frost]

Mine is still normal mode 😦

[storm belfry]

Surely I loot Eranog ring anyway

[balmy condor]

[gusty mirage]

[storm belfry]

My luck in my vault it’ll have both boon and Eranog ring

And I’ll be in shambles

[balmy condor]

I think the comparison was like

[gusty mirage]

what if I told you I had the boon and the cct in my vault

and I took a socket?

[balmy condor]

408 melandrus with socket gets replaced

[storm belfry]

I would not be surprised since it’s your main lmao

[balmy condor]

and lfr eranog gets replaced

[storm belfry]

This is just an alt

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[storm belfry]

But heavily debating maining it again

[gusty mirage]

you're my fav rogue ever

[storm belfry]

I’m just a rdruid main, rogue is my dirty little secret man

But I have been wanting to go back to blasting dps meters

[autumn frost]

I need to save up money so next time the mythic eranog ring drops i have a chance of bribing the person for it

[thorn fjord]

Then play dk not rogue @storm belfry

https://tenor.com/view/reptile-lol-hehehe-gif-5441436

[storm belfry]

Funny enough bro, that’s the only class I do not like

AND was the only class I haven’t had at max

Until end of Slands where I finally decided to level one

[thorn fjord]

I’ve never played a Druid or hunter

Or priest

[storm belfry]

I mained rogue for a couple years then swapped to heals. So it always has a soft spot

I’ve never played spriest, but I’ve played disc and holy. And I’ve come to terms that I hate that class but shadow is based

[thorn fjord]

Only classes ive played at a high level are rogue dk and lock

[spice spire]

Dk at a high level

I’ve seen that mf in keys

That’s like saying I play dk at a high level

[thorn fjord]

I mythic raided DK in Legion

In argus

[uncut echo]

I mythic dk'd as well

On mah BOY RADAHN

[spice spire]

Legion isn’t real

You can’t convince me

It’s made up

[thorn fjord]

😦

[uncut echo]

Ok fake gamer

Only real ones played dk in legion

[spice spire]

Wow didn’t exist between mists and bfa

[thorn fjord]

I got some purple parses in Vault on heroic too with the DK 😛

At like 402 IL

[spice spire]

I played uh on a dummy and got pissed off

Legit 0 button gaming

[thorn fjord]

Damn now i gotta run a high key with you on the DK to prove he's real @spice spire

[spice spire]

We did a 17 tbf

[thorn fjord]

nah nah 20+

[spice spire]

But I was running around like a monkey

[uncut echo]

I need to get my dh up

I'll be doing valor related content this weekend

[storm belfry]

My high levels would be rdruid, hpal, lock and rogue

[uncut echo]

Quake and slow

[storm belfry]

Hpal was prison though

So idk if I can count that. I was just a nice guy being used for ashen hollow

[thorn fjord]

down

[uncut echo]

I've raided high on mage, dh, dk, rogue, shaman, spriest and warrior

[spice spire]

?

[uncut echo]

Ce on only one tho

[spice spire]

Oh dieslow

[gusty mirage]

would you guys believe me if I told you I used to be a raid healer?

[uncut echo]

Yeah

[spice spire]

Yes

[gusty mirage]

[uncut echo]

Bc you mend my soul every mf time you type

[spice spire]

He ends my soul

Every time he types

[gusty mirage]

I played priest from the release of blackwing lair through AQ

[spice spire]

[autumn frost]

I used to be a raid healer... in SWTOR

[gusty mirage]

then leveled my rogue

[sweet dawn]

Do we know if the new ring will be bis for us in .0.7?

[gusty mirage]

it will not be

Oh we prolly need a pin eh

[balmy condor]

I can make one real quick

before it goes into FaQ

[gusty mirage]

I wish you'd just faq me

[sweet dawn]

0_0

[winged quail]

Oh boy saw tuning changes and got baited into being excited

[gusty mirage]

its fine guys, I'll be perma afk like @rigid mango starting monday

[winged quail]

Sin is forgotten I fear

[spice spire]

[rigid mango]

[oak sky]

Rogue is forgotten

[gusty mirage]

nah bro they just nerfed sub in pvp

they're aware it still exists

they just don't care

[velvet ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/what-huh-confused-john-travolta-gif-16946746

[winged quail]

Sub is bing chilling somewhat, thank god for multispec

[gusty mirage]

Y'all about to have a really bad next couple of months if you're waiting for some bombshell of updates

[thorn fjord]

Nah im not

[gusty mirage]

ya cause you swapped to uhdk

[wary ice]

Do you m+ on this spec?

[gusty mirage]

fucking traitor

[thorn fjord]

Nah im not swapping

[velvet ridge]

i M+ on this spec

[thorn fjord]

Im just enjoying it now till next tier

[thorn fjord]

Still maining Rogue

[gusty mirage]

[velvet ridge]

i <3 it 😁

[wary ice]

Gross

[storm belfry]

If I can you can

[wary ice]

We just send dm in pulls on priority right assuming it lasts

[gusty mirage]

ya

super fun cd

you just slap it on something

and forget about it

[spice spire]

Yeah

[gusty mirage]

getting like half value

very insane

[wary ice]

I like dm in st lol

[spice spire]

Literally vendetta 2.0

[storm belfry]

Do I main rogue next tier and leave healing behind is the question

[wary ice]

Yeah

Rogue owns

[gusty mirage]

you said you're a rdruid?

[spice spire]

Do what you enjoy

[storm belfry]

Yes I am

[wary ice]

Doomers just doomin

[spice spire]

Is my answer

[gusty mirage]

yeah

jump ship

[storm belfry]

And the tier is fucking busted

[gusty mirage]

rdruid about to have a VERY bad time from what I hear

[storm belfry]

Nah brother

[gusty mirage]

they're fucking up your talents or something

[storm belfry]

It’s goated atm

Nah

Those ppl are dooming

We play same build

Just diff positions

[gusty mirage]

you see I tried saying that

[storm belfry]

Idk why ppl are being weird. Prob some dumb YouTube guide

[gusty mirage]

I was like can't you just play the same talents?

"ITS RUINED RAH"

[storm belfry]

You do lol

[gusty mirage]

like oh okay my bad for asking dude

[storm belfry]

The only cringe thing done so far

Is them fucking up AOE sunfire

Like if anything m+ is a bit gimped. But not even

Raid is exactly the same

I can already assure you. They will nerf lux soil talent and also the tier set

But we will still own

[gusty mirage]

isn't prevoker getting a nerf on tuesday?

[storm belfry]

Yeah

[gusty mirage]

good

fuck that entire class

[storm belfry]

I think it’s p big in raid

But no BIG.

In m+ it won’t matter

[gusty mirage]

prevoker does like

30k more hps

on rasz

for no reason

[storm belfry]

Idk I have never let a prevoker heal more than me

[storm belfry]

TA is a fucked up ability

[gusty mirage]

it's actually disgusting

how much more healing our prevoker does

and he's mediocre at best

[storm belfry]

Well I’m in a new guild now. And stopped raiding after kurog

From previous guild

But in previous guild the evoker never beat me

But would be very close

On reclears they did cause I was just vibing

[winged quail]

Looks like next raid is gonna be really spread on most of the fights, gonna be harder for evoker I think

[storm belfry]

Just send TA

Dream breath one side

[winged quail]

Rasz is just goated evoker fight

[storm belfry]

Like. It’s actually so funny how easy that spec is

And raz is only@goated for them simply because of rescue

I’m sure. Right?

[winged quail]

also everyone is perma grouped for big dmg events which helps a lot

other than spark overlap ig

[gusty mirage]

every fight is a goated evoker fight

[winged quail]

rewind/time anomaly is definitely an interesting decision

[gusty mirage]

our evoker played priest

[storm belfry]

I put the evoker in the dirt

[gusty mirage]

and tried his hardest to make it work

we had 2 priests

so he said fuck it and rerolled prevoker

[storm belfry]

Id be about 20-30k ahead

[gusty mirage]

Built diffy

[storm belfry]

I mean tbf it wasn’t a great guild. I joined to help a friend. Cause I was lazy to search for a guild

That’s why my parses are so good

In a better guild I would just have purples. Not rank 1s

[storm belfry]

That’s smart tho

If you didn’t have any

Also double evoker is good comp no?

[winged quail]

think it will be necessary for some of the bosses next tier

[storm belfry]

Just as an example

[storm belfry]

Yeah I mean they made it mandatory on raz

“Mandatory”

[gusty mirage]

hot

[storm belfry]

Idk how true that is. Never finished this tier on M

[gusty mirage]

only mandatory if you have a priest or hpal

[storm belfry]

If the guild I joined clears raz before next tier I may get a taste

[gusty mirage]

everyone else can get through it fine

esp now

[storm belfry]

Yeah those nerfs looked great

[winged quail]

rdruid+prevoker feels great to have

[oak sky]

Ret gets pushback resist now i think

[winged quail]

other healers can kinda flex tbh

[storm belfry]

True

Devo is nice to have tho

[gusty mirage]

imagine bringing a ret pally

lmfao

[thorn fjord]

rip

[oak sky]

Fucking true

Double hpal time

[storm belfry]

That ret pal rework will be good

[oak sky]

[storm belfry]

When I was hpal we ran double hpal and boy I tell you. I hated it

[oak sky]

Which paladins you taking double hpal or hpal prot pal

[storm belfry]

Hpal double

Wait. I said double hpal

Read man

[oak sky]

Crazy they thought this would make ret good enough to take lol

[storm belfry]

Playing hpal in raid to me was basically just dps spam. I didn’t heal one bit

[oak sky]

Like blizz is so stupid with raid buffs

They need to make paladin actually bring something useful besides a raid buff if they want ret to be viable ever

Or make it possible to not run hpal ever

Its like feral vs moonkin

How do you compete with the best spread cleave class

You just always need moonkin

[storm belfry]

I always thought they should have ret aura give a stat buff to ppl

Like even if it’s useless mastery or something

Just give it a stat buff

[oak sky]

It just gives flat damage

Thats a stat buff

[storm belfry]

To the paladin

If someone dies

[oak sky]

Nah man

[storm belfry]

So it doesn’t do anything for raid

[oak sky]

That just means you can never take solo ret

Because you would give up dev9

Devo

[storm belfry]

The trick is to go ret aura and have your weakest dps die

[oak sky]

They need to remove ret aura

[storm belfry]

I mean rets, if they have hpal, use ret aura

[oak sky]

Yes

[thorn fjord]

Have a nice weekend sinners...

[storm belfry]

I work every weekend

[thorn fjord]

@uncut echo @spice spire HMU for some shenanigans

[storm belfry]

When are y’all gonna dk tank for my new main

(Rogue)

[spice spire]

Ye will do when I get home

Whenever ur free papi

(I leave work in two hours)

[storm belfry]

[spice spire]

So it’ll be night

[oak sky]

The idea is you need to be able to take ret as a solo paladin without losing damage right

[storm belfry]

I am at work for at least another 2-3 hrs

[oak sky]

So if hpal is dogshit you can actually play it someday

[storm belfry]

I see what you mean

[oak sky]

This rework does accomplish that

But it also like

Requires 2

Which is like ?????

[storm belfry]

I haven’t looked at their rework at all tbh

To prevent myself from gearing up yet another toon

[oak sky]

They made ret aura a damage raid buff

[uncut echo]

Should be on in the evening

[storm belfry]

Oh

Well I apologize for my misinformed comment earlier

[oak sky]

And they also did some mobility stuff so ret and prot should be nicer to play

And then they made ret abilities do some more aoe stuff

And they reworked their cd style a bit

And they gave them infinity holy power

[storm belfry]

Infinite??

[oak sky]

So much that you dont press blade of justice in st

[storm belfry]

What the hell

[balmy condor]

10.0.7 Annulet Ring
Gains everywhere :)

Wowhead/Icyveins/FAQ Guides will Update once these things stop getting 75% buffs :)

Best combos currently are as follows (will update as needed):Single target: Prophetic Twilight/Freezing Ice/Desirous Blood ``````Dungeons: Prophetic Twilight/Desirous Blood/Storm Infused

Echoing may sim higher but the movement required makes it trash, just avoid it.

after buffs the ring is about 1.5%/2.5% in single target/dungeons

[weak isle]

[balmy condor]

[weak isle]

remind me to find the Tweet where Ian said its worth farming for everyone 🙂

[balmy condor]

don't worry

blizzard blue post for 3/26

Upcoming Primordial Gem Tuning:
All gems buffed by 300%

These gems fucking blow but we're forcing them onto everyone anyways because we decided to make borrowed power in a 0.7 patch at the end of a tier for some reason, have fun farming these for 10.1 prog

[weak isle]

[balmy condor]

also don't let this distract you from the fact that the ring is worth on sub and outlaw

it's another assassination nerf in disguise

[storm belfry]

Oh it is?

[balmy condor]

assassination, the only spec in the game that can do nothing and still get worse

[balmy condor]

it's like 0.6% for sub and almost 3% for outlaw

[storm belfry]

Outlaw gets it all

[white orchid]

It’s an upgrade if you don’t have Ernog ring yet 🙃

[balmy condor]

well

it's an upgrade if you don't have an eranog ring yet

and you also don't have a stat ring at max valor either

[white orchid]

I have 415 Cos ring with socket and the AA crit/mast ring at 415

[balmy condor]

so for the small subset of the community that doesn't have 2000 m+ rating and can't upgrade a ring to 411, and hasn't gotten a ring from heroic raids

yes

it's an upgrade

if you're able to upgrade any mythic+ ring to 415, or you have an eranog ring at any item level

it's not an upgrade

[storm belfry]

Yeah I will grab it for outlaw

[white orchid]

Oh shit so it’s not an upgrade for me even without eronog ring haha

[storm belfry]

3%

[storm belfry]

What a joke

[balmy condor]

that's what this means yeh

[white orchid]

So I guess still keeping the 415 academy ring lol

[balmy condor]

yep

[white orchid]

Rip lol

I heard it’s bad for boomy too

[balmy condor]

lucky for them

[white orchid]

Assass really is the ugly step child

[subtle tundra]

imagine having to farm for some minor upgrade in a .7 patch

LOL

glad its bad

[balmy condor]

yeh

I'm glad its bad too

but I'm not glad that it's good for some people

if you look at the numbers for assa, it feels like an alt-catchup mechanic or something

[white orchid]

So some people will be getting free percent damage upgrade and we won’t

[balmy condor]

if you look at outlaw, it's a new giga bis chase item

[storm belfry]

Yeah it’s a weird catch up tho

One item

W some weird gems

Wait

You can use the ring as a source of fire damage?

So would that help proc more of Eranog ring? W cowl or no

[balmy condor]

eranog ring is already maxed with cowl

cowl does damage like every 2 seconds

[sweet dawn]

Yeah but is there a helmet better than cowl stat wise for us?

[silk bane]

nah you'll miss on eggnog ring procs since the new ring's fire proc doesnt have a high enough uptime

[balmy condor]

yeh

[silk bane]

I legit wish I took sockets over 424 helm. its not even good for transmog at this point, this things so ugly smh

[formal ore]

its down horrendous

one of the worst imo

[silk bane]

its okay next tier we're gonna be looking like shredder Yepge

ill legit just roleplay as Zed for the whole tier

[oak eagle]

How good is the ring for Sin?

[balmy condor]

pin

[silk bane]

Whispyr is the Zed cosplay for rogues enough to keep u for 10.1?

[balmy condor]

I'm around for 10.1

[spice spire]

Wait huge?

[balmy condor]

but Idk man

the raid better be good

[oak sky]

Well skip says its all st based purely on heroic testing

[balmy condor]

good thing we have an aoe tier set now that's probably equal or worse in single target to our current tier set

holy I'm already fuming again

I need to fucking breathe

[oak sky]

St is sins niche though i dont get it

[silk bane]

theres litearlly no way this things going live though right??

right?

or am i hard coping

[oak sky]

Are you saying st is tuning and borrowed power dependent??

[silk bane]

sins litearlly gonna be weaker than it is now LMFAO

[oak eagle]

Yeah that tier for sin scares me ngl

[balmy condor]

it's confirmed to not be a placeholder

so

it could change

but this is the intended design

[silk bane]

sin's aoe is gonna be legit deathmark open on one target, maybe spread CT, once DM fades vanish carnage? bro just kill me i cant even

[oak sky]

I mean why would it be lol

They wouldve said placeholder if it was

Were people really coping that hard

[silk bane]

like i understand their 'intention'... They want these super burst reliant classes to have more of their damage spread outside their CD's... like this is the entire theme of rets rework

but man are they going at it the wrong way

[oak sky]

Yeah they want homogenization

Hey want every class to play the same

I hate it

[balmy condor]

because they said it was placeholder in 9.2 when it was increased crit chance on shiv or whatever, and we had to ask and they were like yeah that's placeholder, so we did the same thing now to double check and they were like nah it's not placeholder?

[oak sky]

[dark token]

Here's the plan:

• Get shit tier set that buffs aoe and nothing for st
• sin becomes dogshit
• we get 25% aura buff compensation
• now our st is good again and aoe actually becomes decent due to tier set + 25% aura buff

[balmy condor]

other specs are apparently thought to be placeholders atm

so

[silk bane]

same, i genuinly feel like sub is about to have its worst iteration/design ever. litearlly ignore shadowstrike, only gb, keep 100% uptime on symbols. i litealrly wanna throw up

[oak sky]

Bruh

[balmy condor]

it's not insane to think sin might be as well

[dark token]

The sub tier set is so stupid

Clunky af

[oak sky]

Tuned well-> no class changes

Damage fine class fine

[balmy condor]

sub isn't placeholder either

all the rogue tier bonuses are apparently working as intended

[oak sky]

Sub looks annoying but at least well thought out

[dark token]

How does outlaw do it again every patch

[oak sky]

Sin is fucking confused

[silk bane]

yeah both sub and sin tiers should actually be illegal

[dark token]

They have the least clunky and strongest numerically tier set

[weak plover]

Our sets aren't on the vendor yet are they?

[balmy condor]

dunno if copy pasting planned execution for a 4 piece is well planned out but yeah I guess

[silk bane]

becasuse the people making the tier dont necessarily play the spec, and dont understand it. outlaw is so easy to figure out, has barely any themes other than priate button smasher. sub and sin have different unique identities

thats why any generic bs is fine for outlaw but not for sub/sin

[balmy condor]

correct

[silk bane]

like the numbers are so whack that makes me feel like they dont even know the damage breakdown. like lets say 40% of sins damage is nature, 70% of it is outside dm, we get 40% increase on 30 sec every 2 minutes.. thats 40% damage for 40% of 70% of our damage for 25% of the fight. thats 2.6% who the fucks doing the math

[balmy condor]

in my early sim

I sorta eye-balled and napkin mathed the 4 piece to be about a 5% aura buff

roughly

[dark token]

Yes

[balmy condor]

50-60% nature damage, 40% buff, 25% uptime

sorta comes to about 4-5%

[dark token]

And AFTER our cooldowns you get 2.5% dmg

Lamest tier set in fucking existence

[balmy condor]

dunno how much the "not in deathmark" will pull that down

[silk bane]

not really though, because a decent chunk of our damage comes during deathmark

[dark token]

Who wants to do damage outside of cooldowns

Fucking no one

[balmy condor]

I'm not sure it'll cut it in half though

[silk bane]

with deathmarks garrote, rupture, poisons, deathmark itself

even if its only 15% of our damage

[balmy condor]

I mean I did the numbers on a full 5 min log

the deathmark damage is included

[white orchid]

Imagine if the 4 piece was a buff inside DM

[balmy condor]

it's just averaged out

[silk bane]

then thats 85 * 0.4* 0.6 (if 60% is nature) *0.25 = then yeah its roughly 5%

[balmy condor]

it's not a very scientific estimate

[silk bane]

as for sub 22% of their damage is evis. even if just say 100% uptime on symbols. thats a flat 15% buff to 22% of their damage so like 3% litearlly less than the current 4 pc.

[balmy condor]

but I asumme it;s probably like 4%

[silk bane]

yeah. meanwhile warriors 2 sets = litearlly over 10%.

[balmy condor]

just give sin a 10% aura buff

ship it

[subtle tundra]

still worse than sub in m+

[balmy condor]

ohhhh you don't know the tech

[subtle tundra]

...the secret tech?

[oak sky]

Exsang your deathmark

Duh

[balmy condor]

you play sepsis now

40% nature buff

[subtle tundra]

stepsis meow

[balmy condor]

double garrotes

the cleave

it through the roof

[oak sky]

Stepsis

[balmy condor]

top dps every key guaranteed or I'll cut my fingers off

[weak plover]

Exsang dm for shorter dm to get tier faster pog

[silk bane]

idk dude with this new bomb trinket we are all gonna play outlaw/sub, get bomb resets, bring glory of allah to dragon isles

then maybe ill be able to do enough carries to afford holding a proper funeral for my sin rogue

[weak plover]

Don't we have more damage events -> more crits-> more resets

[silk bane]

not sure, im mostly kidding but it really does depend on the icd. if it has one then its whatever, if it doesnt then subs probably gonna abuse it to infinity maybe even sin idk

[balmy condor]

yeh it's got a cooldown on it

[weak plover]

It will most definitely get nerfed into the ground. I was reading with it today and it felt like I was getting resets very fast

[balmy condor]

you can't just mut, crit both hits, apply poisons with both hits that crit, and get 6 stacks instantly

[silk bane]

meanwhile sub rupturing everything, proccing WM + blades + double hit from evis :)))

someone actually posted this in Outlaw btw

[storm belfry]

Not leaving? yet

[balmy condor]

we'll see

I want to huff the hopium that something is coming eventually

[storm belfry]

Wait were you joking about sepsis

[silk bane]

nah nah hes staying, looks like the raids prtty good for Single target specs next tier

theres hope

[balmy condor]

yes

[storm belfry]

Damn

[oblique jackal]

Buffs to lock

Nothing for rogue

Sigh

[balmy condor]

No no

Not damn

Sepsis needs to rot

1:30 cooldown that doesn’t line up with anything

And you don’t want to use during cooldowns

Because it gives imp garrote

Cancer design

[oblique jackal]

Whispyr, work for blizz already

[balmy condor]

Brother I’m trying to quit

[storm belfry]

😦

[balmy condor]

Imagine telling the meth head to try heroin

[subtle tundra]

Yes would be amusing

I'm 100% sure assa gets nothing cause it tops hc logs

😊

[balmy condor]

Damn didn’t realize you knew the future

[storm belfry]

[subtle tundra]

It's one of my powers

[uncut echo]

is that right varas

[subtle tundra]

I can't spoil any more of my powers

[storm belfry]

Just tell me one more of them

[subtle tundra]

I farted a lot today

[oblique jackal]

What if exsang is gone in 10.1

[storm belfry]

[subtle tundra]

Grrrrr I need to find a job

[storm belfry]

I’m currently at work. You can tell when I’m at work cause I’m active on discord

[oblique jackal]

Lmaoooo

Sin I really toping heroic logs ?

[balmy condor]

Ye

[calm bison]

you mean this patch or in the ptr? because in the ptr all I see are locks and bms

[balmy condor]

This patch

Ptr testing

[storm belfry]

I saw an assa rogue in ptr raid

[balmy condor]

Half the specs can’t buy their tier right now

[storm belfry]

But was watching an rdruid pov

[balmy condor]

Talking about 10.1 balance is worthless

[calm bison]

ye ofc

[royal lantern]

but i thought ptr hc testing is the peak benchmark for the patch balance

aka outlaw will suck, on heroic most fights are st

and that will 300% be the case in mythic aswell

[gaunt moat]

(Just woke up)
Oh. Warlock gets 3% buff.
So that's nice.
They were bottom of dps charts for two weeks.
Can't have that.

We will rise (to the bottom) once again.

And with ring indirectly buffing everyone else.. it's gonna be even a larger margin.

But at least sub got pvp nerfs...

[uncut echo]

Oh no, we're not on patch notes

for a patch that's months away

[brazen zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-noodles-my-honest-reaction-my-honest-reaction-meme-meme-cat-gif-25953937

[uncut echo]

@'d and the comment deleted

[odd heath]

!def

[prisma monolith]

Thanks to DynamicNigel for putting in the work for the book when everyone else abandoned it. View the current version here: https://tinyurl.com/57cnaezn

[gaunt moat]

I deleted cause i thought you replied to me

[uncut echo]

oh I did

100%

I was just napping

Lmao

[gaunt moat]

what are you talking about then

0.7 comes less than a week

[uncut echo]

I meant for 10.1

[gaunt moat]

i'm confused

i'm talking about the changes for 0.7

[storm belfry]

That sounds awesome

I too want to nap

[uncut echo]

I thought we were referring to 10.1

Disregard king

[gaunt moat]

So now that I'm refreshed.
what do I do, keep watching the programming refresher course i've studying. or learn subtlety.

[storm belfry]

Learn sub

[uncut echo]

sub takes an hour

[gaunt moat]

i also only have one hour left in the course

ah, i'll feel better if i do productive stuff for first an hour, and then waste the whole day on garbage.

[drifting cosmos]

the new ring is this bad? 424 only equals 385 fire ring

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/yh-gif-25406060

[formal ore]

is is fine to use the purchasable thistle tea if i'm poor and dont wanna waste gold on low keys ?

[gaunt moat]

the thing about fire ring.. it's really good.
it gives like 1.5-2% extra DPS + stats

[formal ore]

or is there a better option ?

[sudden canyon]

consumables in low keys

[gaunt moat]

uh, the talent called thistle tea?

[formal ore]

cause its too much gold to burn on +20s to buy the primary stat pot

[formal ore]

no

[drifting cosmos]

ok, lets use other rings as examples, surely something new coming out should be better than 400-410 rings

[formal ore]

the dalaran thistle tea

[gaunt moat]

no, i meant, the talent is a better option 😂

[gusty mirage]

just don't use a pot tbh

[gaunt moat]

but i guess you mean classic

[drifting cloud]

arent pots 100g lol

[drifting cosmos]

no I mean you dont pot at 20-21s

[formal ore]

nono

[gusty mirage]

yeah afaik they were pretty pricy

[formal ore]

yeah i know

but thistle is like

nothing

[gusty mirage]

I just wouldn't even bother

[drifting cosmos]

but you only use like what, 3-4 pots per dgn tho

[sudden canyon]

0

[drifting cosmos]

like if you are using them

[gusty mirage]

I mean I use pots, but I also multicrafted 200 r2 ultimate powers

[formal ore]

so expensive

[gusty mirage]

ya I mean if I didn't hit the multicraft

I wouldn't bother

[drifting cosmos]

I think things inflated quite a lot since they increased the gold rewards in wqs

[gaunt moat]

You'd think that. I'd think that too.
but they were conservative with power level cause they don't want it to be better than season 2 items.
so it only gives stamina + gem affects.

[drifting cosmos]

500g to fly the dragon

[gaunt moat]

and they're not better than stats.

[drifting cosmos]

and 600g to take some photos

[drifting cloud]

just use r2 normal pots if you dont wanna craft ultimates?

if those are still too pricy then you better not wipe because sounds like you cant afford repairs

[drifting cosmos]

yea, I was hoping I can use the ring till mid S2 when I start getting max lvl rings, but I guess thats just too good to come true

[formal ore]

i just bought the thistle tea and thats it

its not that i'm that poor

[storm belfry]

Idk why you would buy those

[formal ore]

but its not worth for the keys i'm doing

[formal ore]

honestly mostly to get used to the pot keybind lol

[storm belfry]

Just buy shocking disclosures then

Cheap as hell and more value than dalaran tea or w/e

[gaunt moat]

The best keybind it left mouse button

[formal ore]

psycho

[formal ore]

oh ok

dont know what that is but will do

[gaunt moat]

it does some aoe damage

[storm belfry]

Yeah you use em in AA anyway

Just free pad around your body

[drifting cosmos]

is it uncapped dmg

[storm belfry]

Idr if it is but I do know it scales w some secondaries I’m p sure

[drifting cosmos]

interesting, didnt know about that one neither lol

[formal ore]

i'll go with tier 2 potion of power

almost same price as shocking

and gets me used to it

thanks guys

[drifting cosmos]

but yea, I thought we dont pot till maybe 22-23

[formal ore]

i'm finishing my 20's

[storm belfry]

I mean you can pot in 20s

[formal ore]

so wanna get used to it

[storm belfry]

It’s your money

[formal ore]

cause i'll forget it FOR SURE if i dont get used to it now

[storm belfry]

I am weird and actually have a macro w DM and pot and then DM just by itself

So when I’m gonna DM and pot I use the macro. When I’m just gonna dm I just use dm alone

[oak tangle]

if potting is the difference between timing and not timing, why wouldn't you

[storm belfry]

I think their point is you don’t need that to time in a 20 or 21

But it sure is fun to blast so why not use it

[drifting cosmos]

well usually potting wouldnt impact timing tho

[formal ore]

cause if thats making a difference in a 20 your team sucks

[oak tangle]

you dont need ptos to kill mythic raid, do you still do it?

[drifting cosmos]

it would make you look better in details

[storm belfry]

Looking better in details > more damage > stuff dies faster > dungeon is over faster

[formal ore]

its nice

[storm belfry]

But I do agree you don’t need to pot

But who cares. Do it anyway

[formal ore]

and i really need to get used to the timing of the pots and the bind

thats why i'm doing it in low keys

[oak tangle]

i mean i slap on consumes, but i dont really pot in keys, but there is absolutely no reason you can't shouldn't use them, i'm just a cheap ass

[drifting cosmos]

sorry I mean if a key brick or no brick, usually its more about how ppl play mechanics/interrupts etc

lacking dps but played everything else perfectly is pretty rare

[misty holly]

This seems like a pretty major design oversight if they expected the annulet to be an end-game item farm to tide people over until 10.1

[oak tangle]

get it for transmog

[drifting cosmos]

no it just means if you are currently afk, there is no reason to come back

[oak tangle]

[formal ore]

at least there might be a decent gold farm for it

and non profession gold is always noice

[balmy condor]

it's 3% for outlaw, the gems are fine

they're just not fine for us

[oak tangle]

story of our lives

[formal ore]

cause we too good for them

[drifting cosmos]

3% without stats tho? o.O unless its like 3% each gem which would be too much

[misty holly]

Is it because raw stats are more important for sin than most other specs? Omg do you know what this means? WE SCALE!

[balmy condor]

I think it's mostly just a difference in vers and whitelisting nonsense

• proc rates and shit

like ghostly strikes + vers + the apm from outlaw can quickly cause something to be a lot better

depending on the internal cooldown

like "your abilities have a chance to X" usually counts actually casts

not double hits from mutilate

but outlaw just uses way more spells