assassination

[balmy condor]

I don't really like the extend part

just feels like you would get all your bleeds up

and then play a game of keep it up

but yeh

seems okay

[silk bane]

theres like so many different interactions you can do. like idk if you played league but since CT is spammable you can give it an interaction like Kassadin ult. every CT is significantly stronger than previous one but also significantly cots more energy, so you go in there and try to spam CTs until you burn energy, then you build energy back up while that CT falls then u build agian, idk if its gonna be super degen but could be fun to ramp and then just do very very heavy AOE damge. Ramp into payoff generally feels good... according to my boomie friends lul

[balmy condor]

yeh

could work as well

[uncut echo]

Sin and aoe are taking a break rn

[gaunt moat]

But it's okay, since our ST is fine™

[uncut echo]

It is fine

-ish

Like I want buffs but it isn't gamebreakingly bad

For the majority of content that people play, the performance sin has isn't gamebreakingly bad

[gaunt moat]

I'm mostly memeing.
if anything.. the real "problem" is we just get outshined by hunter. by like.. a lot.
we'll have to see how's it's gonna be next tier with new set bonuses.

[rancid nimbus]

yeah. Got to get in front of dem huntards again!

[uncut echo]

Fuck hunters

[rancid nimbus]

ye. fuck em all 😄

[uncut echo]

My real grudge is warlocks

[gaunt moat]

Warlocks are kinda the same.
TONS of raid utility. good ST, good AoE.
(unless you're destro)

[silk bane]

eyoo? isnt destro kinda giga nuts right now? My friend sends feet pics for PI and hits 200k overall in AA...

[gaunt moat]

I don't know about m+
but in raid, they are bottom spec overall

EVEN below sin.

[silk bane]

ah yeah raids really bad for them they litearlly cant do damage. eggnog? ads die in 2 seconds destro cant ramp. terros? tons of movement cant cast. council? 4 target cleave that moves around litearlly worst case for destro. sennarth? cant cast gotta move. kurog? theyre kinda bis. dathea? LMFAO HAAHHAHAHA mommy lizzy? ads die in 2 seconds then its a 2-4 target cleave, cant ramp bad target setup, razagath? LMFAO

[shy mica]

Is sin even that bad in high keys? I've watched some guy do 24s or something and it looked pretty decent

[formal ore]

way worse than sub but its doable

zerocool is proof

[uncut echo]

What

[ebon notch]

@balmy condor what's the best way to check the number of cheat procs in a log?

[balmy condor]

buff table

[ebon notch]

Is it just looking at healing and seeing how many times you healed or

Ok cheers

[nocturne current]

Haha, true lol

[sudden canyon]

wowhead post on more 10.0.7 class changes... no sin mentions.

me rn

[vestal granite]

actually a great idea, because that would allow to use the massive energy surplus but also ramp even longer

also fake news there is not one boomie on any planet that has friends

[royal lantern]

tbf, the entire thing is just "we tune ret down a bit"

[spare crow]

You chose this

over gigachad rogue community

I would be ashamed

[sudden canyon]

yea but everytime i read the headline is just says "class changes" so i get a lil hit of copium, and then the dissapointment when i dont see rogue on there.

[viscid spear]

Am I though

[wind condor]

So after our opener, when you’re at your second Box/Exsang window, do you vanish double garrote Exsang, or is the double garrote not necessary

[keen spruce]

as long as you max pandemic with your vanish it's not necessary

I don't think the extra 1-2 seconds you get by double garroting makes up for another global? i could be wrong but I'd expect the difference to be pretty marginal

[oblique jackal]

Can someone explain to me why one of the top rogues in raid is using haste gems ?

[hollow river]

Probably just simmed better for them

[oblique jackal]

Ah gotcha gotcha

[hollow river]

Who knows

[oblique jackal]

probz

Make sense

[keen spruce]

running exang and puzzlebox generally makes haste start to sim higher that it otherwise would

in every sim I run, any mix of haste, mastery, crit on gems sims withing a couple hundred dps of eachother

[fervent adder]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[gusty mirage]

funny enough he got banned from a few class discords already for that exact message

[balmy condor]

he's been here too dont worry

:)

[keen spruce]

I knew i'd seen that message somewhere before

[gusty mirage]

I know, I pointed it out

[keen spruce]

he was in here a couple weeks ago

[balmy condor]

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

you wanna play a game of chess @gusty mirage?

[gusty mirage]

no I suck

[balmy condor]

🟩⬜🟩⬜🟩⬜🟩⬜
⬜🟩⬜🟩⬜🟩⬜🟩
🟩⬜⬜🟩⬜🟩⬜
⬜🟩⬜🟩⬜🟩⬜🟩
🟩

your move

[gusty mirage]

[balmy condor]

[gusty mirage]

can we make a bot that does that?

[balmy condor]

I mean

technically yes

[gusty mirage]

I made a cheese quesadilla you want one? @balmy condor

[balmy condor]

yes

[gusty mirage]

I gotchu

[oak sky]

[spice spire]

Didn’t even offer me one

Toxic

[marble hemlock]

http://puu.sh/JBk9x/0e5ed3d141.png

[gusty mirage]

you're not invited bitch

[spice spire]

Fuck you buddy

[gusty mirage]

no one told you to use the IRC version of discord

[balmy condor]

bughouse

[glacial crypt]

That's just his move

It's your turn

[balmy condor]

slides the 8 rank 3 to the right

what a power move

[glacial crypt]

Those words definitely mean something

I think you should make the same move

[gusty mirage]

if this was ancient rome would you be Julius Caesar or would you be a Gaul? @balmy condor

the gauls lose

[balmy condor]

I'd be the communal bath because everyone just teabags me

[gusty mirage]

hot

[glacial crypt]

That doesn't sound pleasant

[gusty mirage]

unless his kink is getting teabagged

[glacial crypt]

Then it's probably very pleasant

[gusty mirage]

ancient rome was a weird time

they shared butthole sponges and shit at public bathrooms

[glacial crypt]

Were you there?

[glacial crypt]

What the fuck

[gusty mirage]

yeah it was a weird fucking place

[glacial crypt]

Next time u go can I come with u

I'd like to try my hand at

Whatever happened in ancient Rome

[gusty mirage]

of course

[glacial crypt]

I'll pack my things

[thorn fjord]

They killed Jesus

[gusty mirage]

depends on who you ask I suppose

[gaunt moat]

Imagine using the butthole sponge after Quintus used it

[gusty mirage]

🧽

[woven ruin]

...what did I walk in on in here...

[gray crest]

Standard assassination chat

[gusty mirage]

sorry I started watching Rome on hbo max

so the butthole sponges came up

[gray crest]

When people aren't asking things that aren't already on the faq

[gusty mirage]

don't listen to @gray crest

he's a fed

[woven ruin]

Rome was great, wish it would've lasted more than 2 yrs

[gray crest]

https://tenor.com/view/fed-technically-im-not-a-fed-federal-officer-gif-17910981

[thorn fjord]

I missed the butthole sponge scene in gladiator unfortunately

[nocturne heath]

heya, so i was here when i first went to sin, and i'm back with some more questions, so i just downed H raz with my guild and noticed i only parsed 9% for my ilvl (i'm 403), i clocked in at 51.1K by the end, i was wondering what i could be doing wrong, i did record a 1 min dummy bit, which i'll show, but i'm doing the opener i see in the faq and wowhead and tryna reserve energy as much as possible, but still am low

[oblique jackal]

!neck

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1055055765980844093/image.png Lariat can proc ANY gem you have equipped, in any slot.

[balmy condor]

okay well I'm 10 seconds in and the opener is already wrong

[nocturne heath]

oh?

am i mistiming my greiftorch?

[balmy condor]

no

it's just gar rup mut snd exsang isn't the opener

[nocturne heath]

oh i thought that's what i had read

[balmy condor]

you're playing exsang

so this would be the exsang opener

[nocturne heath]

oh... yea, that's a tad different lol

[balmy condor]

also no puzzle box hurts

[nocturne heath]

i will be honest i forget to use vanish as a rotation item

i have a 395 CCT and a 411 Grieftorch

[gaunt moat]

As assassination, keep in mind vanish is an offensive spell

[balmy condor]

I also saw a couple of finishers at 4cp, the sbs was really late, tea was really late

you also refreshed your exsang'd dots

I think it would probably help to just talent out of exsang for now, it's much easier that way

and you'd only lose like 2%

[nocturne heath]

what should i do in it's place?

[balmy condor]

a second point in improved poisons

[nocturne heath]

alright

but wouldn't that mess with learning the proper opener?

[gaunt moat]

Once you get the basic down, you can build on that

[nocturne heath]

true

[gaunt moat]

Even this opener has an even more complex version.
it's a gradual process

[nocturne heath]

only issue with tryna learn it is having to wait for cds....

lovely

[balmy condor]

don't wait for cds

shiv on cooldown, echoing reprimand on cooldown

vanish and deathmark on cooldown

[nocturne heath]

no, i mean between attempts in learning the opener

[balmy condor]

GG ez

oh

yeah

thats a pain

[nocturne heath]

yea lol

is there a dude i can talk to to reset em?

[balmy condor]

no

[nocturne heath]

rip

[brazen zodiac]

fun

[nocturne heath]

what's the energy level i should hold and let recharge a min at? i've been tryna not go below like 40-50ish

[balmy condor]

just slam it all

[nocturne heath]

the issue with taht is i'll do that, use all my teas and do nothing for 30 secs

[balmy condor]

yeah

that's fine

you're either waiting for the energy to hit 40

or waiting for the energy to use something

it's the same waiting

you're just delaying the inevitable

slam button

[nocturne heath]

alright, alright, when everything comes off cd, i'll do that again, and see the difference

[balmy condor]

gonna be honest though I think a lot of this is probably a gear issue

403 is pretty gnarly this late into a patch for a boss that mythic raiders are farming every week

especially if you don't have the big stuff like a puzzle box

[nocturne heath]

true, but tbh, i did main a DH til like 4-5 weeks ago, got her to 397, then leveled and geared my rogue, firstly in outlaw, got tired of the randomization, adn then came here lol

and gnarly in a good or bad way? lol

[balmy condor]

bad

[nocturne heath]

figured

[balmy condor]

you're competing with people 15 ilvl higher than you

some even more

[nocturne heath]

yea, that's why i was looking at the ilvl % on my parse vs the total parse %

[gaunt moat]

Just to add to what Whispyr said about late usage of SBS (you used it first after 20 seconds)
You also only used it once.
SBS is 15 energy for 2-3 CPs, you should use it liberally to get to 5-6 CPs

[balmy condor]

yeh but that's gonna be even worse

[nocturne heath]

yea, i have been incorporating it more and more

[balmy condor]

ilvl parses are wildly inconsistent

[nocturne heath]

oh

[balmy condor]

might as well be blindly throwing darts

[nocturne heath]

or at least trying to

oh lovely

[balmy condor]

ilvl is one of the indicators of character performance

but 400 ilvl with a crafted 418 mainhand, 418 lariat, 415 puzzle box, and 4 set

is wildly different from 400 ilvl new character coming out of heroic dungeons

[nocturne heath]

true good point, here's my current setup

[balmy condor]

yeah that's pain

[nocturne heath]

lol

[gaunt moat]

i like that you have the ring but no cowl 😛

[nocturne heath]

cowl?

[patent bison]

rogues want the eranog ring because of cowl

[gaunt moat]

crafted head piece that deals fire damage, which activates the ring

[nocturne heath]

i was never made aware of that... too bad i don't have any sparks

ahhh, makes sense makes sense lol

i'll definitely grab it when i get a spark

[runic hinge]

Start farming AA for a puzzle box too

[gaunt moat]

FAQ does mention it

[nocturne heath]

i didn't read that bit, and would i replace my CCT?

[runic hinge]

Yes

[nocturne heath]

alright

and it's a big mastery buff right? been a min since i've seen it

[runic hinge]

Yes

[nocturne heath]

alright, it's almost 1am for me, so i'll run an AA now and see if i get it, i assume i can get sparks from dungeons too?

[slender sparrow]

they’re pretty hard to come by

[nocturne heath]

yea, i've heard

i've yet to get one outside of the quests

[runic hinge]

You can, I think I’ve heard farming the super rares is your best bet but I’ve gotten one from an m+ before

One from raid as well

[nocturne heath]

if i use the catalyst on the cowl would it remove the effect?

[runic hinge]

Yes

[nocturne heath]

rip, alright

i have 5 piece atm so it's fine

[runic hinge]

You would wanna use the other 4 set pieces with cowl as your non set

[nocturne heath]

yea

[drifting cloud]

you cant catalyst crafted gear

[nocturne heath]

oh, well that makes things simple

[balmy condor]

the quests give 5 sparks right

I don't really know what you would need more for

cowl, lariat, mainhand weapons, boots maybe or a cloak or something, a second dagger?

[oak tangle]

Coulda been like me and spammed some sparks to help an alt level professions

[nocturne heath]

i used them for gear a bit early on

[balmy condor]

[nocturne heath]

ik

[teal iris]

ring with food buff and/or bracer with engi res is pretty nice

[balmy condor]

don't craft ring on assa

that's int

[ocean goblet]

I just went Cowl, Lariat, weapons, delete/sell cowl, cowl for my sparks.

[balmy condor]

[ocean goblet]

It was a stroke of- well perhaps just a stroke.

[teal iris]

couldnt you have restored the cowl?

[ocean goblet]

...

[teal iris]

[ocean goblet]

Ya know.

[balmy condor]

[ocean goblet]

I spent 2 weeks looking for a LW on my realm because no one crafts shit.

I can't deal with good advice right now

Like restoring stuff

[teal iris]

https://eu.battle.net/support/en/restoration/

it's even automated now

[ocean goblet]

I don't need 2 COWLS

I'm saving that page. I'll do this again, I can feel it.

[oak tangle]

Why would you not put the food buff on main hand, and use signet + era of rings

[balmy condor]

why would you not put the food buff on a cloak or something where there isn't a high ilvl version

and then use good items

[teal iris]

assa is my offspec so i'm biased i guess

[oak tangle]

I’m never doing brood mythic so for me crafted weapon is that lol

[balmy condor]

you don't do +20's?

[oak tangle]

Will let you know when fenryrs dagger drops from vault

Or anything other than rings and cloaks for me

[balmy condor]

fenryr ain't the only dagger but yeh

[oak tangle]

I know but I’m order to not use my crafted one I’d need 2 to drop and could honestly take a 3 ilvl hit on offhand for stat prio

[balmy condor]

sure

[oak tangle]

my sad state of affairs

[gaunt moat]

no eranog ring sadge

[oak tangle]

yerp 😦

[balmy condor]

411 grieftorch makes me sad too

[oak tangle]

all things else decently geared for only being able to pug first 2 mythic

but easy 2k more dps on every fight if i can get a dagger upgrade + ring

maybe vault gods will deign to be nice to me again, they gave me 3 mythic tier pieces then nothing

[balmy condor]

mythic icon next week for sure

[sudden canyon]

the struggle puggers setup

no mythic squad feelsgoodman.

i have a Fenryr Fang to pump up to 408 ive just been lazy to farm more valor.

i havent been enjoying the sin keys anymore.

and i dont wanna play another spec tbh

do poisons apply to auto attacks only

its only applies only abilities if it is specified in the tooltips right? Like with FoK

[balmy condor]

no

every ability applies it

[sudden canyon]

even the CT on hit

[balmy condor]

yes

[oak tangle]

to level aff lock or vuplera warrior for 10.1

[jade abyss]

Go for vulpera

[sudden canyon]

theres no way to refresh CDs like u used to with proving grounds right

besides a boss reset. i mean for like target dummy testing purposes

sandbox mode when

[balmy condor]

Correct

[drifting cosmos]

gives you 3mins to think about the rotation more

[sudden canyon]

imagine being a dk wanting to test ur garg opener w/ aotd

[next lion]

it's stupid that you can't just queue into an updated proving grounds with dummies and an npc to reset cooldowns etc :(

[vestal wren]

you can still use the old one

[green juniper]

guys our raid dissolved after clearing the trash we didnt kill eranog, how lockout works can I join any fresh mythic?

[vestal wren]

you can join a new group if you didn't kill a boss on mythic

once you killed one or joined a group that killed one and accepted their id you are locked into it for the week

[green juniper]

cheers

[rugged warren]

if u get a ambush proc, would u send it if u are gonna overcap on energy and ur at 5 cp?

[balmy condor]

you finish on 5

then ambush

[rugged warren]

oh no i meant

if im at like 3 or less cp

.>

[balmy condor]

[rugged warren]

stupid me

[balmy condor]

then you would just ambush yes

if you're at 4 or less, you would ambush

at 5 or more you would finish then ambush

[rugged warren]

so overcapping energy not that big of a deal then?

in that scenario

[balmy condor]

I don't get why you would be overcapping in the first place

you already made a mistake getting to that point

[gaunt moat]

@ebon notch If you don't use ambush, you might waste a blindside proc

if you already have it procced, mutting might proc it again.

[rugged warren]

what if i just drank a tea sip and ill cap

is a scenario where that might happen no?

[balmy condor]

you drink the tea, mut to 3

not capping

if you drink the tea with the ambush proc up

then I guess sure

[rugged warren]

i mut to 3, drink tea durign the gloabl and get a proc

[balmy condor]

but the solution is don't do that

[balmy condor]

yeah I mean just don't do that I guess

wait the 5 microseconds to see if you get a proc, then drink

[gaunt moat]

you want to tea before you waste the energy, not after.

[rugged warren]

oty, not a big ass player so jsut wondering

[balmy condor]

yep yep

you can control when you tea, you can't control when you proc

so you just tea when you know you're not going to overcap

[oak tangle]

my tea is almost exclusively used if i am at like 20 energy, pretty hard to cap on energy if you use it like that

[balmy condor]

ye

[oak tangle]

the only time you need to send tea at any other point is if it'll have it's 3rd charge, which if you are having that outside the opener, then you having apm / cast issues

[gaunt moat]

I use it at 70 sometimes, but its followed by an immidiate mut

New set name got revealed:
Lurking Specter's Shadeweave

Shreder

[oak tangle]

oh shit replicating shadows

for assass?

[glass skiff]

Hello, im new in assa, but is this normal to not see deathmark in details ?

[rugged warren]

deathmark in logs also counts teh dmg done by the duplicated bleeds, not in details

so yes dm will be low

[oak tangle]

deathmark itself is not that high damage compared to the dots it doubles

[balmy condor]

yeh that

[glass skiff]

Ok tu

Ty

[gaunt moat]

2set bonus: New Channeled spell with 2s cast to gain 30% mastery
4set bonus: Exsanguinate cooldown is reduced by 2:15 minutes

[subtle tundra]

ban this guy

[oak tangle]

it'd be a real puzzle if they decided to go that way

[spare crow]

Man i got an aneurysm just reading that

[ebon notch]

Huh

[balmy condor]

If you don’t use ambush, you might waste a blindside proc

[ebon notch]

Yeah but why am I getting tagged

[balmy condor]

To remind you that if you don’t use ambush, you might waste a blindside proc

I guess

Idk

[ebon notch]

Good to know

[balmy condor]

Knowledge is power

[ebon notch]

You sleeping soon?

[balmy condor]

Just got into bed yep

[ebon notch]

Nice

Just waking up

[balmy condor]

Nice

[subtle tundra]

Wth

So late!

[balmy condor]

But just in time for tea time

So he can have some crumpets with his spotted dick

Or whatever England does

[subtle tundra]

Honestly I'd have tea with biscuits

[balmy condor]

Yeah but don’t get the same satisfaction as saying spotted dick

I mean

Cmon

[subtle tundra]

Classic

[ebon notch]

[nocturne current]

You just solved my what do I feel like breakfasting issue

[subtle tundra]

I wish it were that easy for me

It would keep me full for 30 minutes

[shy mica]

been working a bit on my UI, but everytime I get UI errors that block me from doing anything until I /reload

Even after reinstalling the game and having almost no addons

Every error is also a different addon everytime

[subtle tundra]

Mfw 0 protein meal

[shy mica]

Does anyone know how to debug a UI?

[hallow token]

I am very much in an LTP situation, it feels like always, I guess? But what is depressing is that it feels like it doesn't matter? You know in the summer Olympics, in diving or gymnastics or whatver, how the routine has a maximum score? And the athlete is out there, doing their best, and they will make a tiny mistaks, and one of the people calling the event will be like, "Oh, her foot wasn't pointed, that will be a tiny deduction," or, "big dismount but unfortunately he took that tiny extra hop on the landing and that will be a tenth of a point deduction." But then even if you nail everything, no deductions, the max from your routine is capped anyway.

[subtle tundra]

I don't get it

[balmy condor]

Is that a pasta

[subtle tundra]

Whispyr

[uncut echo]

What a wild thing to open my phone to

[subtle tundra]

Why aren't you asleep

Literally u said youre in bed

I'm coming after you

[uncut echo]

I'm whispering eldritch chants through their walls

[mystic gate]

why is this on my pc

[subtle tundra]

It's a classic

Man doing short breaks between sets is exhausting

[serene fossil]

Its a veeeery good one tho

[balmy condor]

A classic

[balmy condor]

I go sleep but then big bong wake so now no asleep

:(

[subtle tundra]

Man I also want a bong

[uncut echo]

Haha weed

[mystic gate]

[shy mica]

I'm still leveling so maybe I'm missing some points, but on the AoE opener:

if I IC -> garrote -> snd/tempest (is this based on if I have snd already running?) do I really just echo into low cp rupture?

[uncut echo]

Yeah

[shy mica]

Oh wait, resounding clarity guarantees the echo'd rupture

[uncut echo]

It applies a 7cp rupture to 8 targets

Ye

[shy mica]

I didn't have resounding clarity

[uncut echo]

Uhh

[shy mica]

Not 70 yet hehe

[uncut echo]

Oh honey

[shy mica]

And the tempest vs snd is just based on if I alrdy have snd running from a prev pack?

[green juniper]

so I am done with the game now?

[thorn fjord]

That’s not cutting edge

[fading wigeon]

Grats!

[dark token]

If this was done with the game I would have quit week 2

Way more stuff to do

[fading wigeon]

Meh CE just one of many achievements of the game. Not be all and end all

[green juniper]

apparently I can pay like 29 mio gold to echo and they get me rasz.. thing is I never seen more gold than 100k

[uncut echo]

29m gold for raz

Kind of wild tbh

[drifting cloud]

echo tax

can prob get rasz only elsewhere for less than half of that

[thorn fjord]

29 mil is insane

[green juniper]

29 mil is i think 8/8 with every item except very rares

each very rare is like 3 mio more

[thorn fjord]

In US that’s a little over 3k in tokens atm lmao

USD

[pure moth]

Has anyone actually paid that?

[thorn fjord]

I wouldn’t be super surprised

But who knows

[green juniper]

I think I saw couple at gingi's stream

[gusty mirage]

daps was saying just rasz is like 9 million

[thorn fjord]

I’d love to see their spread sheets on what’s been paid out lol

[uncut echo]

Is rasz considered to be much harder than recent endbosses

[thorn fjord]

Nah

And now after the nerfs it’s so much easier

We almost got to p2 our first night of prog

[green juniper]

my guild stuck with the terros for 3 weeks now

[neon kindle]

Time to get a new guild

[dark token]

It's not harder than jailer

It's harder than sylv or denathrius

It's weird cause it doesn't feel harder than denathrius but statistically it is idk

Sylv I thought was a joke end boss, p1 only hard part

[thorn fjord]

I’d say jailer post nerfs was easier than sylv post nerfs

[misty olive]

!lariat

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1055055765980844093/image.png Lariat can proc ANY gem you have equipped, in any slot.

[dark token]

I only did fated jailer

Didn't do s3

[thorn fjord]

Oh

[dark token]

But my guild tells me he was hard af in s3

Worse than raz

[thorn fjord]

He was tough yeah we didn’t get ce s3… got him to 4% the night before CE was gone 😦

We did get ce on sylv tho

I wasn’t a fan of site

Sire

[dark token]

Sire was probably my favorite endboss since legion

Everyone else is pretty meh

[thorn fjord]

Jaina was cool@

[dark token]

Didn't do jaina tho, some people like her

Mythrax/Ghuun was so bad I quit all of bfa until nzoth lol

[hallow token]

Question: does the order of activating poisons matter? Used to want instant on main hand, deadly on offhand. IDK why but suddenly I am wondering if that is still a factor. Seems like it isn't? Insights appreciated.

[vague widget]

You run deadly and amp no instant.

[thorn fjord]

Wait what

There’s no way that’s a thing.

[fleet pagoda]

it's not like it used to be where it applies to MH/OH; tooltip specifies it a bit as "coats your weapons"

[thorn fjord]

Yeah

Just use deadly amp mn or atrop and crip

[vague widget]

You no longer individually apply poisons so deadly no longer goes on the faster weapon as it's on both when cast tldr

[near magnet]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[hallow token]

Thanks for sharing the expertise, y'all.

[gusty breach]

100%, nice boss, cool theme

every other boss after that feels like a letdown compared to that boy

[uncut echo]

My only CE was Argus

So Im a pinch biased

But I think that was the best endboss of all time imho

[subtle tundra]

that was my first aotc less go

(thats when i bought the game)

[uncut echo]

That' cool, glad you got to experience Legion

Such a great xpac

[subtle tundra]

yes, on a private server lol

[drifting cloud]

Argus was sick, my guild griefed it a bit tho

[uncut echo]

Lmao oof

I got CE on legion shadow

I

Was so happy

[subtle tundra]

i need to find a range spec i like

😦

[drifting cloud]

bm hunter

[subtle tundra]

lol

played it in 8.3

[drifting cloud]

the assa of ranged!

[subtle tundra]

boring af

[drifting cloud]

8.3 doesnt count fake patch

[subtle tundra]

i'd try shadow but its not leveled at all

[drifting cloud]

might get reworked twice before you level it up

[subtle tundra]

i would've played ret aswell

not leveld

well, tried more like

[brazen zodiac]

:o

[subtle tundra]

and cba leveling from 0

[oak tangle]

same, aotc right before BFA prepatch

[gusty mirage]

[brazen zodiac]

@gusty mirage

dk so fun!

i cant wait for cross faction guilds im lightforged FOR LIFE.

[uncut echo]

I'm excited to go Alliance

[brazen zodiac]

u bouta see lightforged sin rogue bring the damn light down on in these 22s

the racials a feels nice

[slow tulip]

what is a good haste % for assa on single target ? 12-15% or ?

thx in advance guys

[gusty breach]

covid patch

made so many new friends and memories

[uncut echo]

Sim

[storm onyx]

Depends on your gear

[uncut echo]

You go for what the sims tell you

[slow tulip]

doesnt it feel clunky tho if you have too low haste no matter the sims ?

[drifting cloud]

unless you get 50% haste that wont change

if it feels clunky to you it will still feel that with +10%

[uncut echo]

Sin is supposed to have downtime

[drifting cloud]

because thats just how the spec is

[slow tulip]

i miss the bfa corruptions when there wasnt downtime xDDD

[uncut echo]

Yeah

Play outlaw

[slow tulip]

hate law xD

[uncut echo]

That was the worst iteration of assassination

[slow tulip]

need assa for the last boss since we have 2 more sub rogues

so i guess ill stay on execute

[storm onyx]

Thats not the issue, Assa is slow paced. And it has no set stat targets, you want to get as much of 3 stats you can as sims direct you; depending on your gear. You don’t want Vers.

[slow tulip]

ye it sucks there are items with too much verse you need

like the fire ring

:/

[uncut echo]

It doesnt impact playstyle at all

[slow tulip]

big if true mate

[uncut echo]

If they didnt exist you'd wear a crit mastery ring

And you'd lose haste by not using fire hat

[oak tangle]

thistle tea exists, nothing feel clunky

[drifting cloud]

and do less dps

[slow tulip]

[uncut echo]

You can go crit haste if you wanna zoom

But you'll do piss damage

No one's stopping you

[drifting cloud]

I mean thats not true either, unless you got a whole other set of gear it wont change that much

you just wont even notice if you swap 2k mastery for 2k haste for example

on your dps and your general flow of the spec that is

[slow tulip]

do you use elemental chaos phial ?

[storm onyx]

Don’t spam the Tea though, pace it around to prevent getting floored

Tepid Vers

[oak tangle]

i love the oxymoron of that

vers is our worst stat take all but it, btw we use tepid vers flasks

[slow tulip]

big xD

[storm onyx]

Yea lol

[drifting cloud]

because other flasks are just worse not really that hard of a concept, has nothing do with vers

[oak tangle]

yeah it's because you get like 1.2x vers as opposed to a random assortment of the others

[storm onyx]

Other options are all gimmicky

Too much “if” s

[drifting cloud]

and its not like vers is some garbo stat, you just have enough from diurna + whatever is on tier

[oak tangle]

same reason you should take vers in AA

[gaunt moat]

Did I tag wrong person? Sorry 😅

[gusty mirage]

hi @drifting cloud

[thorn fjord]

What’s a fragnance

[green juniper]

wait I was getting crit..

[oak tangle]

damage reduction plus it gives you more stat

just the way that the stats are assigned, i think percentage wise vers is more stat

for same percent

[brazen zodiac]

💃

[green juniper]

random thoughtI feel like if there would be a data rogue would be one of the least played class by females..

[subtle tundra]

Sometimes I feel like an egirl

[sudden canyon]

nah women love playing rogue.

all they do is play games and stab u in da back

[royal lantern]

the amount of ebois and egirls is high on rogue

[gaunt moat]

I have been called that before 👀

[ember mural]

do you prefer egirls or iladies

[gaunt moat]

i meant the eboi part

[uncut echo]

True and real

[formal ore]

how much does race matter in high keys ?

[sudden canyon]

idk im mexican and i dont get into high keys

so do with that what u will\

[formal ore]

lol

scape ragnaros bro

[uncut echo]

BRUH

Lmfaooo

[sudden canyon]

that rag stigma is real

and im on illidank

u know what, some Ragnaros players are really good, its usually the english speaking ones. Ive heard and kinda beleive the theory that alot of Ragnaors players are bad because of a lack of good guides/resources in spanish

[gusty mirage]

Some rag/azralon players that I’ve encountered were some of the best players I’ve ever played with

[dark bridge]

They're usually "bad" cause they have like 500 ms

[formal ore]

bro they dont

i play on azralon and sit on 150 ms

[royal lantern]

150ms is not good

[formal ore]

yeah but doesnt justify how bad some players are

and ragnaros is even worse

and by location they should've better ms

[agile fossil]

does the fenryr dagger even exist

[keen spruce]

in my experience rag/az players know how to hit all of the buttons correctly except their movement keys

like an entire region of arcane mages

[keen spruce]

i've never seen it lol just grab the SBG one

[agile fossil]

nah that would be admiting defeat , im 60 runs deep

cant back out now

[keen spruce]

might as well just go kill mythic broodkeeper, it'd be less time

[agile fossil]

[nocturne heath]

got a puzzle box on my first run lol

now time to farm valor

[fallow canopy]

most rag players play on 130-160 tho

only the ones play on the northern side of latam have better ping, 80-100

[rugged warren]

NA players need to invest in sum better internet man

no wonder yall always lose at videogames

[balmy condor]

NA is fine, rag and azralon are NA Servers mostly populated by SA players

If anything, SA needs servers

[formal ore]

yes please

actually it wouldnt matter

we would be even less considered for grouping

so people would eventually leave our servers i guess

[vague widget]

For context I have 7 Ms because I'm in NA it's assuredly not the server it's the location of the player. 😂

[balmy condor]

I don’t see how

People already put OCE ping into the group finder

And everyone who doesn’t play with rag or azralon already knows that

It would only benefit SA players to have servers

That way at least it isn’t a 200 ping shitfest

[vague widget]

My next full statement redacted, just this. ^

[balmy condor]

Could actually just move azralon’s server to bogota, and ragnaros’s server to buenos aires

And I think it’s nothing but W’s

Re-label them as South American servers

Offer free transfers

Call it a day

[formal ore]

why would u put a brazilian server in colombia ?

azralon has to be in sao paulo if they decide to make the switch

but truth is it sucks to play on azralon , i'm changing as soon as i can

[balmy condor]

I wouldnt, i would spread them out north and south and then let people transfer

Could just as well swap the names

Idc

[formal ore]

yeah best thing to do is if u're one of those 2 just leave

[spare lotus]

!lariat

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1055055765980844093/image.png Lariat can proc ANY gem you have equipped, in any slot.

[echo heath]

Make our tier have envenom cleave two targets and four piece could be, each target can drop a poison bomb

Also make a dagger that looks like a tuna sandwich

[sudden canyon]

fix the spec the before designing the tier

other wise we get duct tape solutions that get ripped off on 10.2

[thorn prism]

Sooo I might be trying to play assassination and I'm a bit confused on how cds line up outside of opener mainly--

Am I right that every 4 minutes I want to use box, exsang, dm, and vanish? and just don't sync ER with those?

And then should my rotation for cds be box > rupture > exsang > vanish > garrote > dm? I'm not sure if any of those are out of order or if I should box somewhere else, stuff like that

I presume for dm all I care about is having garrote up so that I can pandemic it and then vanish garrote

[hollow dirge]

Doesen’t look like they might touch rogues. Not a single note on anything but pvp changes.

With you on that, but dubt it. Don’t think we’re even considered atm

[sudden canyon]

i like to box on the same gcd as exsang.

also you dont want to be casting garrote after you exsang or you will overwrite your exsanged garrote

[thorn prism]

okay, so I don't want to refresh garrote right before dm? so would I like rupture > vanish > garrote > box > exsang > dm?

the reason I was thinking to box earlier is so that I would have full duration on my buffs for exsang and dm

[oak sky]

Moving around your box doesnt change your damage that much

[shy mica]

For peolpe who dont play exsang in their m+ build, what do u change it with?

MA?

[oak sky]

Master assassin

[thorn prism]

alright

everything else look good?

[oak sky]

Definitely make sure you garrote right before exsang

If your vanish wasnt up yet you either wait for it or vanish garrote AFTER the exsang garrote expires

[sudden canyon]

yea thats right. i do ER -> 7cp rupture -> vanish -> garrote x2 -> exsang + box -> dm

[thorn prism]

well but er isn't lined up for everything at 4 minutes, right?

[sudden canyon]

no, just on opener

[thorn prism]

yeah

[sudden canyon]

or if you missed a cast.

Its only really usefull for the max pandemic rupture into exsang

[thorn prism]

i'm just following the opener in faq which is that just with sbs after rupture I think

[orchid spear]

why x2 garrote

[oak sky]

Yeah just follow faq

[thorn prism]

so you get the additional 30% from pandemic with the dot

[sudden canyon]

idk full cp and then i shiv + env

[oak sky]

Thats only for opener

[sudden canyon]

i dont respect the shiv cps

[oak sky]

With vanish you only garrote once

[drifting cloud]

maya say no to exsang

[oak sky]

Rejectsang

[thorn prism]

i am saying yes to exsang

im going full cringe

[drifting cloud]

smh

[sudden canyon]

so the thing is, if you open with garrote, you will only need to garrote once after vanish to get max pandemic on it. but i like to x2 coz it feels like efficient combo points

[thorn prism]

I think both the garrotes in the opener if you garrote snd garrote are in the stealth window, yea?

[sudden canyon]

yea,

u dont need to x2 its just what i do since when i vanish im 0cp

[shut owl]

I did the math on double garrote; its super tiny vs not double garrote

[sudden canyon]

with how i open at least

[thorn prism]

all you really think about with exsang is not overwriting buffs, right? like there's nothing really involving haste to think about

[shut owl]

with regards to difference, not with regards to one vs the other

[oak sky]

[thorn prism]

and then there I just fully wait for exsang'd dots to run out and then use garrote or rupture normally inside the rotation? or do I wanna like try to force having max cp as it runs out so I can up rupture instantly?

[oak sky]

Yeah you pretty much want to instantly refresh

[shut owl]

you don't need the rupture to be maxed, you just want to make sure your gcd is ready to go more than anything

[thorn prism]

okay, thanks

makes sense

and similarly have a gcd ready for garrote when that runs out

[oak sky]

Basically yeah

[thorn prism]

[nocturne mountain]

Hey Guys im playing rogue for quite a bit now, and did manage to get some myhtic kills but im still lacking of class/spec understanding can someone please help me?

[tacit otter]

#assassination-faq 🙂

if you still got questions not mentioned in the faq, feel free to ask

[frail rivet]

is there any macro to apply 4 poisons at once?

[violet talon]

Each application has a cast time, so no

[keen spruce]

there should just a lightweight ui window for poisons where you can drag and drop the ones you want to save them and just have one button to apply them

or just not have a 1h duration on them

[storm onyx]

its easy enough

[violet talon]

Honestly, I guess it's always seemed so easy to just click a few buttons during the downtime before a dungeon or raid pull that I never considered it an issue

[formal ore]

#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=15 Deadly Poison, Numbing Poison, Amplifying Poison gotta click 4 times but makes it a lil easier

[keen spruce]

I mean it's deep in the "extrememly minor inconvenience" bucket

[formal ore]

yeah for sure is the littlest thing

[gaunt moat]

I've got a clickable WA that pops up at 20m left on duration, with available poisons Icons.

[gaunt moat]

highly recommended
https://wago.io/FTHrEDzp_

[thorn prism]

for the opener if desyncing deathmark and vanish, do I still do my first envenom after deathmark? I've been doing the rotation like this, but then i end up envenoming at like 1 cp and I'm trying to make sure that's correct

[keen spruce]

envenoming at 1cp is not correct

[thorn prism]

so should I just shiv out of deathmark and play normally? or is my opener wrong

[fleet pagoda]

what's the context for fight?

[keen spruce]

uh the opener looks good iirc

[thorn prism]

oh wait, with ER I can probably hit a charged cp early right

st

let me see if envenom is landing on a charged cp

[keen spruce]

but i dont' htink the picture in the FAQ accounts for moving your vanish garrote

i would just follow normal rotation after shiv tea i would assume

[fleet pagoda]

is it not worth more just to garrote garrote rupture if you're not using vanish with it?

you lose 6s on your garrote uptime before exsang

i worded that weird but you know what i mean

[keen spruce]

he's moving vanish garrote into his exang window

deathmark window*

the difference is very marginal but delaying vanish garrote is technically better

[gaunt moat]

It should look like this though:

you want your ER into a rupture

and sbs earlier

[keen spruce]

did they change the opener again?

FAQ out of date?

[gaunt moat]

No, that's just the delayed vanish opener

that's what raidbot uses

[thorn prism]

I can move sbs earlier then, I'm still doing rupture > er > rupture > exsang > deathmark

[keen spruce]

the rest is the same yeah

looks like he just scoots his sbs up 3 globals

[thorn prism]

idk if I should put puzzle box all the way after deathmark, or if it matters

[gaunt moat]

correct

[keen spruce]

puzzle timing is kind of flexible

right before exang or on the exang global are fine

[gaunt moat]

I once shown here I used PB after DM and I almost got murdered.

[keen spruce]

i member lol

[thorn prism]

ive been doing right before exsang, ill just keep doing that

[keen spruce]

yeah that's fine, the duration will last for your whole burst either way

I mean even if you do your exact opener but just shiv + tea mutilate instead of envenom you'll be fine too

none of that stuff is super make or break to your overall damage

[gaunt moat]

It's just that using SBS late, leaves him at an awkward CP

[fleet pagoda]

doesn't optimize the exsang use either, no?

i mean it's trivial but

[keen spruce]

yeah i mean everything we're talkin about is very trivial except the one cp envenom

[gaunt moat]

yeah, it loses 1 second on empowered garrote

[keen spruce]

moving sbs earlier gains you a wopping 1880 damage

not dps

[fleet pagoda]

sheeesh that's a whole auto attack

[keen spruce]

we're talkin about saving a tic of rupture or a tic of sbs bleed or whatever. good to know but not gonna blow up your pull

[gaunt moat]

1880 damage in a world where we do none is meaningful 🥲

[keen spruce]

I'm not a doomer

i've joined copium gang

[gusty mirage]

@thorn prism

[thorn prism]

well not really, like whether you sbs or not you're at 0-2 cp after the opener

[thorn prism]

hey baby dont worry

[gaunt moat]

you mean after exsang/DM?

[thorn prism]

I was just sbsing after rupture > er > rupture instead of before

both cases are before exsang/dm

[fleet pagoda]

so you only got one cp out of that sbs?

seems a bit cursed rng

[gaunt moat]

unless it crits, but yeah

it doesn't really matter cause you're using it for rupture, which you will then override with a 7CP rupture

[thorn prism]

well with how im doing it in the opener it's not being overwritten

[fleet pagoda]

aye I meant that one leading to envenom rather than the rupture

[keen spruce]

whether or not you sbs early or when he was you're gonn have to mutilate after shiv tea

[fleet pagoda]

oh that's why, duh it's the first sbs. nvm i'm simple

[thorn prism]

idk if it matters more to envenom early or just sbs > exsang > dm > shiv and then if I'm on an ER cp I just evenom and if not I mutilate/sbs again

[keen spruce]

well yeah

if you hit an empowered then great

i dunno if it's really that awkward though if you don't

cuz if you move SBS earlier you're gonna be mutilating anyways

so it just makes it consistent

[gaunt moat]

The only variance I've got is if i can hit 2 or 3 envenoms before vanish

[thorn prism]

I guess by sbsing after rupture er rupture you get an extra 1-2 cp after opener

I guess you get sbs up 3 gcds earlier compared to rupture 1 gcd earlier

so ill move sbs to 4th gcd

[gaunt moat]

That's how raidbots does it, so I assume it's most optimal

[balmy condor]

you're just wasting the cp if you do sbs beforehand

you don't care about how many cp the first rupture is because it's just there for pandemic

and you don't care about the second because it's an animacharge

so using sbs at any point in time before that second rup is an L for the cp

[thorn prism]

yeah, the reason to sbs earlier is just to get the dot up earlier I think

but you get less cp

[balmy condor]

yeh

[thorn prism]

so I'll go back to using it after the two ruptures >.>

as far as tt usage, should I always stack it on shiv windows where im low on energy? should I hold one charge for 4 minutes for cds then?

[balmy condor]

the #1 thing is to make sure you're getting the max energy out of it

after that it doesn't really matter where you use it

if you can line it up with a shiv, great

but it's not something you should be striving for realisitically

better to just get your energy and bail than it is to try and force it to line up onto something

[thorn prism]

I feel like I've been pretty consistently able to like shiv, be starved on energy, and then get to 50 and mutilate > tt so I'm using it right at 0

and never overcap on tt there

[balmy condor]

great

[drifting cosmos]

Hey guys can you use the engi wrist if you are not eng?

[gaunt moat]

I was trying to look what did the top sin on brood did.
he had 9 casts of grieftorch
3.5m damage from a trinket.

[drifting cosmos]

Oh cool cool

I assume the wrist doesn’t come with socket? By default

Kk cool thanks man

[solemn oracle]

I'm a bit unsure as to what trinkets I'm suppose to run in M+ as Assa, I've been told that 424 Grieftorch and 421 Boon is the way to go if I don't have Icon, but I've also got 421 puzzle box which sims better, but I've been told that running x2 3min cd trinkets isn't recommended (?)

[balmy condor]

puzzle box can be a bit awkward

boon for sure is a go to

the others you can kinda do whatever

[green juniper]

boon seems like a bonkers for m+

[balmy condor]

yeah

uncapped aoe

in a world where all aoe is capped

kinda good

[gaunt moat]

Must be nice to have boon 🥲
I'm still whetstone gang

[stiff geode]

Got to pick your battles with using Boon in M+ with how often stuff is on the ground.

10s is a long time to be standing there with a thumb up your butt.

Some tips are to carefully use your shadowstep charges and cloak of shadows.

[subtle tundra]

and evasion 😤

[stiff geode]

Don't think evasion can save you from ground doo doo or am I mistaken?

[wary jungle]

it can save you in nokhud trash before first boss

[shy mica]

What do I do in the aoe opener if my echoing doenst land on the anima combopoint? FoK - > 6 pnt rupture?

[balmy condor]

What

It always will land on an animacharge

It’s impossible for it not to

[royal lantern]

forbidden multihit crit tech

for instant 6 cp in 1 mut cast

[limber lion]

man plays the super hidden no-rc tech

[uncut echo]

Someone in here did a day or two ago and were infinity confused as to why I said opener was simple

I was just like

[green juniper]

box+grieftorch.. mfw I am fully raid equipped but only doing m+

and hate the fact that sub doing better aoe and better ST.. like comparing with me(average players)

[nocturne heath]

alright, at least for opener and the slight general tips i had gotten, thank you guys lol
this is a parse from like an hr ago, on H Eranog, i used my puzzlebox as a prepull, and then did my opener and used grieftorch right after that opener, was able to peak at around 100k

(got 3rd overall that fight)

[pastel onyx]

but

u dont puzzlebox

prepull

[nocturne heath]

i know i don't, but for me the other way is clunky

[pastel onyx]

thats a massive int

[green juniper]

also isnt early grieftorch griefs your opener with better garrote?

[spice spire]

Clunky and more damage = better tho

[green juniper]

oh opener than grieftorch sorry..

[nocturne heath]

yea, did the full opener (moved puzzle to prepull), and the griefed once it came off cd and the opener was done

[green juniper]

I dont do my torch till starving for energy

[thorny pond]

You can opener and fit GT basically before you reapply rupture after the exsang one expires without losing Rupt uptime

[nocturne heath]

i haven'

t been losing uptime on my dots

[thorny pond]

That wasn’t my point

You can put PB at correct time and use GT before you have to apply your first rupture after the exsang one even, or GT right after that rupture

[green juniper]

let me think my opener probably I am doing wrong;
garrote-snd-garrote-rupture-ER-rupture-vanish-garrote-pb-exsang-DM

now I am looking at PB might be sketchy there

mb after exsang

[thorny pond]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/751133387905040425/1080538244820783214/image.png

Straight from the FAQ

Box after ER

If you are feeling overwhelmed by the opener

[nocturne heath]

ER?

[thorny pond]

Echoing Rep

[nocturne heath]

ahh

[thorny pond]

PBing pre pull is basically a wasted trinket

[nocturne heath]

really?

[thorny pond]

You waste about 10s if not more of it before you even get to exsang and DM

[nocturne heath]

true true, hold up, i'll do a 1 min dummy bit real quick, try to implement it, and y'all can pick apart my terrible gameplay

[thorny pond]

I mean just read our mastery

So we can infer that adding mastery to a window where our bleeds are doubled and ticking faster stands to have more value than windows where you don’t even have them all up

[nocturne heath]

true, yea good point

[polar shale]

between maxing envenom uptime while consuming all amp poison stacks and maxing the number of envenoms in shiv window... which one more important? >_>

[thorny pond]

Don't even look at amp stacks

[copper hazel]

just slam envenom

doesnt matter

[thorny pond]

just hit your finishers at the correct CP rules

[nocturne heath]

nvm, i can't seem to do it right for the thing lmao

[thorny pond]

So break it up. Get your garrotes and SND out, then use SBS

Rupt, ER

pause

then hit PB and continue

just work on the first part until it makes sense then move on

[nocturne heath]

alright, when things come off cd, i'll try one more time before shower

[brazen zodiac]

shower time is a great place to think about your WoW rotations

[nocturne heath]

alright i did kinda flub a few things, but i think i saw like 61k by 1 min

[polar shale]

so.. should i save echoing reprimands for shiv window envenoms? or just... do it whenever amp stacks are above 10? >_>

[thorny pond]

Worrying about dps is dumb. Just do it correctly and the dps will come. Nobody was perfect day 1 you just gotta work at it

[brazen zodiac]

in ur video u kept on not using the anima charge

[nocturne heath]

ik, i'm still tryna perfect things lol, i've only been playing rogue for like a month now? my first log on Warcraft logs from when i brought my rogue into heroic prog for my guild was Feb 10th

[brazen zodiac]

its ok for the first week i ignored it 👍

u will get it ez

[nocturne heath]

yea, i was confused by it at first lol, like "why tf would i wanna use lower cp? aren't i supposed to use the max?"

if you're referring to ER

[brazen zodiac]

yeah

[nocturne heath]

and once i get a spark to make cowl, i should theoretically get a good boost in dps, cause i have Eranog ring

and an infusion to make the cowl 405

[brazen zodiac]

oya

pewpew

[nocturne heath]

lmao, a free dot, ain't gotta do shit

but i'll be back in like 20-30 mins

[thorn fjord]

Morning sinners

[brazen zodiac]

if u have a waterproof phone read the guide again in the shower

truly min max ur time

[thorn fjord]

Daylights savings is trash

[nocturne heath]

no

[brazen zodiac]

did it go back

[thorn fjord]

May you all have a nice day

[nocturne heath]

oh wait it hit?

[thorn fjord]

Yeah

[brazen zodiac]

22 years later i still dont understand daylight savings

[thorn fjord]

Was excited about staying up late to play and lost an hour

😩

[thorn fjord]

It was for the farmers… it’s an antiquated system

[brazen zodiac]

i thought it was so we could work later or something political

[nocturne heath]

i ain’t lost so much self respect that i’ma walk around with one of the big ol brick phone cases

i think it’s both personally

[thorn fjord]

Most phones are waterproof now

[brazen zodiac]

i like it cuz waterproof

i go underwater in my pool and look at memes

but yes big and clunky phone case

[nocturne heath]

lmao

[brazen zodiac]

its a different kind of adventure

[storm belfry]

You too man

[warped pivot]

Hi everyone - first week playing assasination and had a quick question regarding m+. Since we are talented into crimson tempest, do we use it on bosses to keep the bleed up in single target, or is it better to spend combo points on an envenom in single?

[fleet pagoda]

crimson tempest is probably not worth in any st situation. if you mess around with sims at all you could always plug in your build for the situation in context and, although not always perfect, it'll give you a good point to jump from

[gaunt moat]

from FAQ:

[fleet pagoda]

sooo how does this compare to other classes/specs; when I sim ST with my m+(aoe) build compared to the cookie cutter st raid build, i'm losing 17% dps. is that a reasonable middle-of-the-road loss relative to other dps?

[flint tusk]

Can't decide if i should bother learning outlaw for Kurog :/
or just stay sin multi dot add and bust down the boss

[storm belfry]

Nah homie just embrace assa

[gaunt moat]

You're gonna need the ST on boss

[green juniper]

first time doing ulduar

holy shit how cool is tihs

[flint tusk]

Yeh that's what i was thinking i was still doing pretty decent across the raid. top 3 on every pull

[velvet ridge]

why is feral uncapped but IC is?

[pastel onyx]

cuz cat

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-angry-cat-angy-cat-cat-frown-angry-white-cat-gif-24362646

[winter gale]

Are there any tips for Razs progress?

I am about to start it tonight

[royal lantern]

heroic or mythic

[winter gale]

Mythic

[gusty mirage]

play sub, unironically

you need as much damage as you can do in p1 intermission to continue progging the fight

playing assassination should either be something your RL is planning around you doing, or something you do later on when the rest of the fight is learned and you need the boss damage

[winter gale]

I will consider that

/tar boss1
/targetenemy
/focus
/tar player
/tar focus
/tar boss1
/targetlasttarget
/cast [harm,nodead] Axe Toss
/tar boss1

do we use this one with any of our spells ?

[gusty mirage]

kick & blind

[winter gale]

Ty!

[gusty mirage]

[boreal cloud]

the fuck does "when comfortable" mean? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/751133387905040425/1080538244820783214/image.png?width=810&height=284

[gusty mirage]

pick a spot anytime in between the lines and pop it

[storm onyx]

Depends on what you decide to do with Vanish I guess. On the opener here I would use it after SBS to cover everything

And prevent energy capping in Exsan +DM window

[gaunt moat]

As long as it's not after DM or Ceverion will 🗡️ you 👀

[gusty mirage]

I aint scared of cev

I'll kiss him on the mouth if he tries anything

[thorn prism]

I might’ve had my one day of assa o.o next week assuming my hand lets me I’ll probably be on adds for diurna so we have an MD

[gusty mirage]

I bet you had a blast

brood boss group is legit

[thorn prism]

I mean tbh I had fun lol since I was learning a new spec and trying to just focus on my rotation and setting up for deathmark and stuff

[gusty mirage]

ya fair enough

first kill was fine

[thorn prism]

I was a complete terrorist, took so much avoidable damage, procced cheat 5 times while everyone was alive across the whole night, and didn’t die a single time

rogue stuff

[gusty mirage]

after that I wanted to just sleep

[thorn prism]

I can imagine lol

[gusty mirage]

wdym

you're talented into cheat death

you're getting value out of your talents

[thorn prism]

I certainly am

We’re extending from here on I think, so hopefully diurna doesn’t take too long

We’ve had a couple pulls into p2 but haven’t killed adds yet

[gusty mirage]

you got this

[strange python]

Do someone have Pi gain for all classes and specs up to date like shift or something?

[sudden canyon]

its means macro it with exsang

nice n comfy

[gusty mirage]

that is not what it means, but if you want to do that you're free to

[sudden canyon]

thats means what it means to be brother

[gusty mirage]

I like potatoes

[sudden canyon]

cooked how?

them bitches flexible

[gusty mirage]

honestly, any way

I've legit never had a bad potato

[sudden canyon]

raw

[gusty mirage]

french fries, tater tots, hashbrowns, mashed, baked

well that's not cooked