assassination

[thorn crater]

not as easy as it sounds

most guilds have 2-3 rogues

plus why did i leave? at least here i have people to do stuff with. starting over woudl be rough

esp for m+

[subtle tundra]

What makes it impossible to play m+ with the same people

You change the people you raid with

[grim jay]

You dont need to stress over it. Just see whats available from time to time, people are bound to stop playing.
You meet new people there aswell and you dont need to stop playing with your old pals just bcs you switch

Ye

[thorn crater]

i mean im essentially carrying the raiding team rn as sin which is sad XD the only hc raz kill we got i did 14k more dps than the second person

if i left i think there would be some grudges ngl

i dno we'll see

[grim jay]

I mean

They are to blame if you carry the raid

[thorn crater]

last week they gave eranog ring to a new trial

i was SO mad

[grim jay]

Thats a good starting point to gquit

[kind forge]

DoS flashback ?

[steel ridge]

Uff... run

Leaving my old guild was the best decision since sending off my ex gf

its the same thing, not pleasant but worth in the end

[echo heath]

You need to use your big dog bark

[normal mist]

You me from another guild

[kind jacinth]

phial of tepid or phial of elemental chaos for raid ?

[steel ridge]

versa

[pseudo blaze]

Whats your guys thoughts on arterial precision on this rage affix week?

Worth or is the dmg loss from dbt too high

[turbid heath]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[royal lantern]

no

lol

its never worth it to lose THAT much dmg over something that is not really needed at all

[steel ridge]

wdym, its fortified and raging. if theres any week you can actually play AP/IC its this week 😄

sure you lose boss damage, but gain alot of AoE potential

[proper tapir]

You're also going to lose some cleave damage if you are holding shiv for soothes. Just play DtB, no body wants us for soothe.

[shrewd night]

Imagine losing so much dps for a talent that dispels enrages, but every mob has to be enraged at the same time for it to work optimally.

[steel ridge]

you also dont need to soothe primal council

[shrewd night]

Yeah, primal council is also a very valid comparison to mythic+, right?

Super smooth my guy

[steel ridge]

if its good on 4 continuous targets, it cannot be that bad on 4-8 targets and smoll bosses

[proper tapir]

Yikes.....

[shrewd night]

You do you, chief.

[gaunt moat]

Imagine playing sin in m+
we're dog water no matter what 😄

[steel ridge]

Winrall asked for thoughts, i gave some.

[spare crow]

not rly

[gaunt moat]

i'm leveling feral 🥲

[steel ridge]

and -1,58% in the simulation that doesnt have huge pulls is not that bad is it?

[agile breach]

Is assassin better for raid than sub?

[oak sky]

Not really

[elfin crystal]

ass is slightly better in sole single target

[empty trench]

hi all, im new here 🙂

[magic vine]

what gets me is its less of a loss than the builds that drop exsang, but they don't get as much flak about that lol

[steel ridge]

i think dropping exsang is very reliant on your gear aswell

[nocturne current]

I don't see a reason why people would ever run AP over Carnage with the exception of tactical raging removals.

[steel ridge]

nobody was talking about AP over Carnage

[nocturne current]

So what's the -1,58 you're talking about?

[steel ridge]

you have seen the screenshot right?

[nocturne current]

Sorry, AP over DTB

DTB's just too good in every scenario.

[steel ridge]

so whats your point?

its right there in whispyrs sheet, dropping DTB for AP is -1,58% in dungeon slice

[nocturne current]

AP's still not worth it, specially considering how the simulation is built. I am not even sure if it's actually blowing the 10 stacks it's building rotating targets.

[steel ridge]

are you rotating targets based on amp poison stacks?

[nocturne current]

So you'ld have to ask Whysp how it's built, because if it's just standard single target without target swap.

Well yeah if your targets are stacking up to 10's you would want to switch target and blow the stacks.

[steel ridge]

are YOU doing that?

[nocturne current]

Ofcourse

Build naturally stacks on other targets with Fans and then blow them all up with envenom

[steel ridge]

whispyr said yesterday he isnt even tracking it

i know i am certainly not

[nocturne current]

Like the thing is tricky because if you take less time to generate 10 stacks before you build up 5+ combo points it doesnt matter to rotate targets because its the same if you keep in single target or not because by the time you envenom the target you are on has 10.

But if you're like in a situation where you're getting 5+ from FOK, and the other targets have 10 amps, I just rotate around them, faster than building stacks

[steel ridge]

sounds complicated

[nocturne current]

Its a bit, basically it's just about, can you build the finisher, faster than you build 10 amps.

And I only do this if it's less worth it than just spamming crimson

[rugged jewel]

Top gear links on Whispyr's simulation sheet are broken 😦

[nocturne current]

If I have like 8+ targets I just spam crimson. With exception if I get blue combo point because that's likely to trigger poison bomb instead.

If I have like 6-5 or so, I let crimson up, and just blow every mob it gets to 10 amps.

If I have fewer like 3-4 or so, just stick to one target with crimson up.

[oak sky]

Pretty sure you can just do whatever and do the exact same damage

[nocturne current]

Yeah I don't think the difference is going to be that huge. Although I find keeping both envenom up all times alternative with Crimson to be the best output.

But going back to the point, it depends on how the Sim is build, but I think it's just a single target only, non-switch applying on cooldowns.

[steel ridge]

my thoughts exactly

its more placebo than anything

[nocturne current]

Hmm I don't think so man also based on one thing.

The higher the mob count in DTB, the higher the output you get.

With AP you're full limited to 4-8 targets.

[vestal wren]

subtlety is better, but you can play all 3 just fine and should decide on your preferences

[nocturne current]

Like, if you're pulling 8+ crimsons splash is limited to 8, so subsequential casts, PB comes ahead specially if you have ER.

[slow marsh]

wait you guys don't blackliist your poisons from plater?

[steel ridge]

you are forgetting about zoldyck tho

[steel ridge]

ofc i do 😄

[nocturne current]

Yeah thats true

[brazen zodiac]

[sudden canyon]

how are you supposed to know when that poisons on your other targets are about to fall and you should FoK to refresh?

if not on plater

[spice spire]

[turbid heath]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[slow marsh]

meow

[spice spire]

Banned

[sudden canyon]

man Arterial Precision is so jank. It gives you bonus bleed dmg for no reason so it makes you wanna go IC for the multigarrote interactions, but you also really wanna gonna down the tree towards DTB to make use of the nature dmg from mod from shiv. The fact that we have 2 capstones focused on aoe in different situations (4 and 8 mobs) and were still mid at both is just sadge.

[cobalt hemlock]

if you go elusiveness should you just spam feint on any dmg window?

[sudden canyon]

still costs a gcd innit?

[slow marsh]

welcome to the conversation that's been ongoing for like over a month now xD

AP is trash never use it

[cobalt hemlock]

i mean by that logic you never press feint ever xD

[fathom hound]

#MakeKingsbaneGreatAgain

[sudden canyon]

but the multi soothe sounds like it should be valuable

[oak sky]

Well dont use it on cd

Just use it when you know theres a big damage event coming with elusiveness

Has the benefit of working on targeted damage and bleeds

Super nice

[sudden canyon]

i wouldnt say spam it, but if healers are strugglings i press it before big dmg like raz sparks

[cobalt hemlock]

doing senarth mostly so i guess the big spider and the pull?

[sudden canyon]

the global is worth pressing when dmg isnt whats previnting you from clearing ur prog kills

[dreamy gull]

https://i.imgur.com/cY8O4d5.png

world quest rewards so good wtf

[storm belfry]

[normal mist]

look at this clean Sim

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8QRSW32VX6xhokC6AS8D8X

[worn geyser]

How do you guys normally sim AoE for raiding purposes? To get a rough overview that is

[normal mist]

if we raid

we do ST

xD

[worn geyser]

Etc Council x)

[fathom hound]

Trueee

[worn geyser]

Patch with 4 targets?

[brazen zodiac]

i think 4 target patchwork

[neat pulsar]

how do you know if you should use haste runes or crit runes on weapons ? I did sim but this buff is never mentionned

[limber lion]

just always use buzzing runes

[ebon notch]

have you tried using this

[storm belfry]

Do people not use putresence? Just shocking disclosure?

[devout prism]

it's annoying to go to the altar of decay to craft em, and in my experience does not do that much damage

[storm belfry]

Isn’t it more damage than shocking disclosure?

[royal lantern]

shocking disclosure is uncapped aoe dmg

putresence, idk what it even is

[limber lion]

it also happens on your person

so you can move freely around with the effect happening

you don't have to aim it at anything

[storm belfry]

Yeah Ik that. Just in an “argument” w someone. I think disclosure is better but was wondering if putresence pulls ahead if mobs could stay in it

[frail geyser]

hey can someone recommend a SIN build to run and learn on broodkeeper mythic if on boss duty, ive checked logs and most of them seem to be hitting adds every now and then, and they dont run exang

[limber lion]

who knows

[empty hinge]

cute @spice spire

[spice spire]

[sudden canyon]

2 dropped and i couldnt win both coz blizz doenst know how to code edge cases

only dagger user in the group too lol

[dawn kelp]

Raz is dead will log in when sin gets a buff

[royal lantern]

See you in 2expacs

[dawn kelp]

[normal mist]

fury warriors having the same issue

[devout prism]

surely the other person traded it to you right?

[limber lion]

Yes.

lol

[sudden canyon]

yea, though it was a pug and i was definately worried theyed hit me with some "nah need it for transmog" shit

[devout prism]

that's some lfr degeneracy for sure

[wind totem]

Sup guys I'm supposed to do soak on Kurog tonight and was wondering how long it takes to do the full soak? Do i need to precloak or should I go in and take a tick?

Not sure how long it takes and how much dmg it does hence why im asking

[storm belfry]

Isnt sin good

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[loud light]

it's right around 5 seconds, should be good to cloak the moment any damage starts happening and start wiggling

[dim cairn]

Can I post a log here for review?

[sour elm]

So I’ve been maining outlaw so far in the xpac but my guild really needs more boss dam for raid. I’m pretty much all into crit/vers at this point but I do have good trinkets.

Will bring heavy crit vers hurt me a lot if I swap sin for raid?

[spice spire]

Shouldn’t too bad

[spice spire]

Analyzer is good for basic things, if it’s not hitting what you need, sure

[wind totem]

so go in and as soon as i start taking damage, I cloak?

[dim cairn]

Thanks 👍

My damage is pretty poor on terros so I feel like there has to be something I'm missing. I think I did things okay mostly but I did exsang my last death mark on accident here lol but it seems low enough that I'm probably making other mistakes also. Does anyone who has time to look notice any glaring issues here ? Thanks in advance

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KDGT7vkJFyazMqQg#fight=2&type=damage-done

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/KDGT7vkJFyazMqQg/2-Mythic+Terros+-+Kill+(5:50)/Borlaxs/standard/overview

[dawn kelp]

Yea on 5 minute target dummy

[spice spire]

You exsanged your deathmark brubby

You also should have for 5m pot at that point

Outside of that, you had some weird envenom casts

But exsanging the dm

[dreamy gull]

tfw outdamaged by a ranged spec that doesnt need to stand still

[valid token]

is there like any rotations guide iam getting destroyed

they even dispell my mark of death smh

[normal mist]

Bosses dispel your DM?

Kinda weird man

Maybe #pvp

[gaunt moat]

Which eggs on diurna were you using cloak?

i'm getting hit hard on like 8th/9th
but it might be too late to use cloak there

[normal mist]

HC or mythic?

[gaunt moat]

mythic

[spice spire]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[formal cliff]

lmao

[storm belfry]

Nice lmao

Same thing happened to my warlock this week. Pugged first 2 M on Monday night. Get Eranog ring Tuesday morning

[thorn crater]

you are a god among men

teach me your ways

[strange python]

Heya i stopped to play for 2 month before nerf outlaw ect

is the assa get nerfed too ?

Sustained raid

[limber lion]

Yeh all specs got nerfed, all specs still fine

[formal cliff]

Do literally nothing other than 2 Mythic bosses in the week

ez

[raven knoll]

Assa is garbo

[strange python]

i see some assa

doing 96k

on terros

so ...

idk

[slow marsh]

one fight that's not even a wall

[raven knoll]

Sorry my bad assa is really good for 1/8th of a raid

[slow marsh]

assa will almost always be "good" for boss damage in raids

that doesn't really change

[pseudo hamlet]

Joined casual SBG +21 for the easy weekly done just in case(don't know if I will have enough time for M+ this week). 3,4k resto druid flamed at me for not choosing Arterial Precision and not dispelling enrage throughout the dungeon.

[ebon notch]

i mean it is raging

kinda gotta help out where you can

[runic hinge]

I was thinking of trying the ap ic build this week.

But I figure if I’m not shiving on cd is taking ap worth it just in case it lines up with raging?

[raven knoll]

Arterial is kinda meh in m+ Iove when other classes tell you what to do

[balmy condor]

It would be so awesome if ap would’ve gotten any tuning at all after it got announced

Instead of like “hey this kinda sucks”

[gusty mirage]

ok?

[balmy condor]

And then 0 buffs

[ebon notch]

ok?

[raven knoll]

ok

[gusty mirage]

so you're insinuating

by your message

that it's acceptable that a healer should expect someone to int their ST damage

to "help with soothes"

[ebon notch]

in a dungeon it is rarely ever a single target situation

[gusty mirage]

oh true

[ebon notch]

where you have to soothe

you are almost always in a pack

[gusty mirage]

you're right

you should play AP

[ebon notch]

and in aoe shiv is a dps loss

[gusty mirage]

good call

[ebon notch]

never said that

but at the end of the day if my tank dies cause i didnt feel like soothing

then thats just is how it is

[gusty mirage]

lol

you're bringing up a situation

that wasn't even the original message you responded to

[ebon notch]

he was in a 21 sbg

[gusty mirage]

he got flamed for not playing AP

[ebon notch]

wdym

fuck ap who cares

[gusty mirage]

????

[ebon notch]

that druid probably doesnt know shit about rogue

[gusty mirage]

obviously the guy who flamed him?

[ebon notch]

the soothing part was more important

[gusty mirage]

3,4k resto druid flamed at me for not choosing Arterial Precision and not dispelling enrage throughout the dungeon.

insane

[ebon notch]

yeah

not dispelling enrage

being the key component

no?

[gusty mirage]

not really

[sudden canyon]

true bet you didnt even run double shiv

[gusty mirage]

because the guy opened the talent tree

and didn't see AP

and flamed him

for not "soothing enough"

[ebon notch]

there's clearly an information gap there imo

did he not soothe at all?

[gusty mirage]

idk

[ebon notch]

or was it just not "enough"

[gusty mirage]

you're assuming he didn't

[ebon notch]

cause no AP

yeah

[gusty mirage]

bold assumption

[ebon notch]

cause is a plausible inference

not rly

but then thats my opinion

so

[gusty mirage]

what's the plausible inference

[raven knoll]

What does AP have to do with sooth

[ebon notch]

it makes your shiv aoe

to 5 targets

[keen spruce]

if you have a druid in your group, even if you don't play double shiv you have enought sooths for a 21 sbg lol

[ebon notch]

so you can soothe multiple targets

[sudden canyon]

im assuming they used shiv for dmg only and only used it to soothe when they got lucky and it was a dps gain

[ebon notch]

with one use of shiv

[ebon notch]

thats what i assumed as well

[sudden canyon]

he just like me fr

[ebon notch]

but there is room for more information

[gusty mirage]

the fact that the guy even mentioned AP makes that a very weird assumption

[ebon notch]

[magic vine]

whats your overall loss in a sbg to run ap?

[gusty mirage]

if the druid mentions AP, he's bothered by not enough soothes

[ebon notch]

i mean

who knows

maybe some rogue told him

[gusty mirage]

3.4k io druid

[ebon notch]

"ap is aoe soothe"

and he ran with it

thinking its mandatory

[gusty mirage]

figured he'd know to use his brain

see how assumptions work?

[ebon notch]

yeah

so?

[gusty mirage]

you have to have some sort of ability for critical thinking if you're able to get above 3k io, no?

[ebon notch]

either one of us could be right

[sudden canyon]

in a fort week just let someone else be the single target pumper of the group. ur never gonna do primo sin single target with IC anyways

[ebon notch]

nope

[balmy condor]

Here’s a picture of my new kitten

[ebon notch]

100% not necessary

[gusty mirage]

why are all your cats so angry at you

[keen spruce]

[ebon notch]

very cute

[balmy condor]

Wdym, he’s got his head on my leg bro

[keen spruce]

angy face

[gusty mirage]

this is an emote waiting to happen

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

That’s just what cats look like

[gusty mirage]

quokkas > cats

[ebon notch]

quokkas are goated

[gusty mirage]

get a quokka

[keen spruce]

"leg not soft enough" -cat probably

[gusty mirage]

look at that happy lil fucker

that'd be me in daps actually loved me

but he doesn't

so I'm this:

[balmy condor]

It’s legit illegal to even attempt to touch one

[gusty mirage]

whatever you say bleach demon

[ebon notch]

wtf

[gusty mirage]

you watched skip over me yesterday

fake ass friend

[ebon notch]

didnt even know you were streaming

[gusty mirage]

yeah yeah yeah

[ebon notch]

i also watched skip for 2 mins then i got 5 ads in a row

and hopped back to youtube

[balmy condor]

Canada pov

[gusty mirage]

excuses excuses

sub to my patreon for more excuses

also has feet pics

just saying

[balmy condor]

[gusty mirage]

you get them for free

[keen spruce]

[dreamy gull]

im so bad at the council fight

trying to keep 8 dots up at once is a bit too manic

[keen spruce]

i gave him the eyebrow treatment

[balmy condor]

Why do you draw eyebrows on everything

[keen spruce]

to make sure there's no mistake

[dreamy gull]

🤨

[keen spruce]

[gusty mirage]

he has an eyebrow fetish

[balmy condor]

Carnage handles it for like 80% of the fight

[deft vault]

is there any weakaura genius in here. trying to do one for ras and cannot figure shit out.

[balmy condor]

Depends what you need

[keen spruce]

not a genius but servicable depending on the request

[balmy condor]

Be aware, if shmeeps makes a wa for you he’ll put eyebrows on it

[gusty mirage]

he'll also make it auto vendor puzzlebox for you

and talent out of exsang

the man can't be stopped

[deft vault]

i need a weakaura that show a big glowing tricks icon when you get near the small adds in the p1 intermission cause our tank cannot get aggro on it and i forget 1/3 pull to tricks

this is what i got and it doesnt work

https://gyazo.com/29d9adb93fd19dc3b0f14ff8753b4157

[keen spruce]

no no weakauras are for frogs

[gusty mirage]

[keen spruce]

i don't have as many on the assas one. still working out what to put where

[raven knoll]

Make the tank shout for tricks like DPS shout for PI

[runic hinge]

Can’t you just Macro tricks into something? Not 100% ideal but better than forgetting entirely

[balmy condor]

I found that Assassination tricks does near nothing for tank aggro other than me not getting slapped in the face, so I don’t run it anymore

[keen spruce]

seems like not the best use case for a WA, but you could just have a big tricks icon when it's off CD if you don't mind having it sitting htere for the whole fight lol

[balmy condor]

[keen spruce]

also yeah tricks ain't gonna save u

just evasion

[deft vault]

oh im not the one grabbing aggro lol

our dh is and our tanks cant hold aggro

[ebon notch]

theyre saying you dont generate enough threat

for it to be worth it

outside of saving your own hide

[deft vault]

im sub

[ebon notch]

[keen spruce]

[deft vault]

sub aoe + tank natural aggro should be enough to out threath our dh

[ebon notch]

how many times have you seen intermission

[deft vault]

idk like 50 maybe?

[ebon notch]

you could honestly make a timer based weakaura that puts TRICKS on your screen when you get there

wait you've been to the intermission

50 times

and you havent remembered to tricks yet?

have you had one death guaranteed per intermission?

[deft vault]

no lmao i never pressed tricks before last night and we didnt have a single death to aggro

and last night we had a ton for the first time

[prime zealot]

do we want to use exsang only together with DM? basically the question is, do I hold every second DM to go together with exsang?

[keen spruce]

you hold exang for DM

not the other way around

just pretend puzzle box and exang are 4min CDs

@prime zealot

[prime zealot]

alright. thanks for the answer!

[keen spruce]

we got platform 1 down well enough that i get to play assas and stay down on dathea tonight

I expect that we're going to immediately wipe to platform 1 and I have to switch back

[dreamy gull]

missed grieftorch off diurna

and the claw

and a set piece

[normal mist]

SMBG + AA 20's done, hypeeee

5 more 20's and i can call it a patch

[sudden canyon]

can you still upgrade valor gear after you use it on catalyst?

[storm onyx]

Yes

[glacial shuttle]

Does Sin have AoE soothe now with Shiv and that other new talent?

[nocturne current]

yea

[outer cairn]

We had a Eranog ring drop last night. Didn't get it.

[balmy condor]

Yep, and all it costs is your damage

[storm forum]

alright this AoE soothe thing owns

[jade wadi]

is it worth taking 2 stacks of shiv this week?

for m+ ofc.

[storm forum]

probably

Im just playing AP this week so im taking it anyways

[jade wadi]

how's that feeling?

[storm forum]

i like it

doing slightly less than the monk in my group

[jade wadi]

does arterial spread the dispell for enrage?

[ebon notch]

Yes

[jade wadi]

sweet

[keen spruce]

well i got to stay down on deathea for like 8 pulls

now i'm going platform 2 but still assas

[drowsy creek]

Do you guys use any plater configuration to track dots?

[keen spruce]

i just use an m+ plater profile that does it

!plater

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[keen spruce]

fk i don't remember

[drowsy creek]

how does this works?

[keen spruce]

https://wago.io/plater/classes/rogue/assassination

just grab one that you like the look of

[balmy condor]

https://wago.io/t6bI_B9wi

[keen spruce]

[sour elm]

I mained outlaw for m+ for quite a bit and my guild needs more boss damage for our prog. Are my stats ok to switch the sin? I have a puzzle box that I can use.

or am I goign to run into energy regen issues with that low haste?

[balmy condor]

You’d run into energy regen issues with 80% haste

That’s a lot of vers but as long as your dagger ilvls are good you should be fine

[sour elm]

ok; im sitting on a 418 and 411 so Ima try it out tomorrow

I tried it on a test dummy and I kinda forgot I cant spam like I do on outlaw

xD

[balmy condor]

You definitely can

You just will run out of energy

And that’s normal

[brazen zodiac]

💃

[sudden canyon]

are u doing IC or DTB with it?

[pastel onyx]

AP + IC

[balmy condor]

run ap ic -> no single target
run ap dtb -> no aoe

Pick your poison

[storm forum]

AP + IC

im running grieftorch to try to buff up my single target a bit

[sudden canyon]

i tried AP IC for a bit too but it feel bad not being able to get poison bomb

specially with aoe shiv being part of the spec

did blizz intentionally remove rupture from poison bomb proc

[storm forum]

i dislike poison bomb so its whatever for me

[balmy condor]

Yes

[brazen zodiac]

deadly, amplifying

[balmy condor]

Thanks

[brazen zodiac]

may u respond to my dm when u get a moment please :o thank u :D

[unreal coyote]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[keen spruce]

3.8% wipe on dathea with no druid or priest buffs

or vantus for some fukin reason

the hubris thinkin we were gonna smack dathea and kill brood in 2 days

[civic knot]

any suggestions for a point to drop for 2nd shiv charge in the dtb build?

[keen spruce]

in what context

if your'e not runnin exang then take a point out of imp poisons

if you are running exang i guess take the other point out of imp poison or take one out of zoldyck

but it depends on why you'd want to

[sudden canyon]

our class tree is kinda cheeks.

feels like were missing some points specially in the survivability section.

[oak sky]

we're kind of invincible

but at the same time the class tree isnt great

sure

[gaunt moat]

already 4% is impressive, isn't it your first day on her?

[keen spruce]

uh 2nd full day

had like a half day last ewek

maybe 3rd

definitely 3rd

we're at like 95 pulls

[sudden canyon]

yea i mean stuff like reduced feint cost, prey. That whole section rows 3-4/5 feels too tight in what you can take.

like you want the util stuff that helps out in m+ but you end up sacrificing to many points because the bottom of the tree is also supper tight

[gaunt moat]

ah, yeah we also got her in around 95~ pulls
it's a shame you guys didn't have the buffs =/

[keen spruce]

yeah druid in jamaica on vacation, priest raids at 3am from europe and i think he just didn't wake up lol

i think it's more like 80ish real pulls

we had a lot of arcane familiars and woopsies

[gaunt moat]

yeah, we had many 1 minute pulls

[keen spruce]

but it's definitely like

you get through plat1 and plat 2

then it's basically gonna be 10-60 more pulls lol

[gaunt moat]

did you go with 3 platform tactic?

[keen spruce]

yeah and i swapped back to assas

now that people have gotten comfy with platforms

they didn't need me up there anymore

definitely have the damage for 3 platforms

we even lived until platform 5 spawned during the burn lol

but too many dead

[limpid moth]

having trouble runnin both grief and OP mastery box, the grief keeps messing up timing on my deathmark, how do u guys handle it? just ignore double on use?

[unreal bear]

i always prioritize box

[keen spruce]

don't use grief 30s before you're gonna need box

or just drop the grief for a CCT or icon or somethin

[gaunt moat]

we had our first day on brood
for me that fight as exact as normal mode

only difference i feint before eggs pop

[royal lantern]

dps lost

smh

[gaunt moat]

don't worry i was on my way to that 😂

wanna know my secret?

[frosty flame]

huge

[gaunt moat]

(that's only to like 50% of the fight)

[balmy condor]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bvkTvaNkSDssS82jo3jpes

Grieftorch bad

Margin of error

Stay mad

[royal lantern]

bad teammate value

[gaunt moat]

Bad? they're 2.3m damage value

[steel ridge]

The secret is that your raid lives to kill the boss

[sour citrus]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[grim jay]

Looks like our sennarth prog back then

[balmy condor]

Sennarth prog

https://tenor.com/view/vietnam-cats-flashback-gif-10819307

[grim jay]

[balmy condor]

Hold cds for spider

My ass doing opener on boss

And then holding Deathmark for 3:30

[grim jay]

Best moment for me was when they started with the safe stairs shit discussing how to do it,
first option rdds:
"Yeah melees cant deal damage for 10s, whats the big deal?"
Second option rdds:
"WE CANT DEAL DMG FOR 3s, HOW IS THAT AN OPTION"

Meanwhile rdds nowhere to be seen on meters

Cant remember what the tactic was as I still moved up late tho

[balmy condor]

This sounds like every guild

My rdps did that too

[grim jay]

Are most of them not performing aswell ? 😁

[vestal wren]

our evokers and warlocks rarely perform well, not sure if its the class or the players

[balmy condor]

our BM hunter cranks super hard

because BM is stupid dumb

[oak sky]

Jokes on you i did most to 2nd spider without holding anything

(Thats a lie)

[grim jay]

Yeah BM was the exception why I used "most of them"

[grim jay]

Our devoker is coinflip, warlocks average

Boomies average aswell, class aint even complex in any stretch of imagination

[vestal wren]

evokers seem to play "melee" a lot more than they need to

[torn atlas]

Our devoker often somehow manages to be 2nd dps after the dk and makes me feel small and weak.

[jade abyss]

How good is dk in general m+ / raid?

[grim jay]

Its pretty good in m+

And good in raids

[flint gulch]

UH DK i guess?

[grim jay]

Frost is good in m+ aswell

Stronger than uh in 10.0.7 if nothing changes

[flint gulch]

I do like my 2h Frost

[brazen zodiac]

a cruel world

[brazen zodiac]

fr lmao

dk so op

[drifting cosmos]

Uh dk mdi spec

[jade abyss]

Always unholy ^^ thanks :) need a new alt DD dh bores me and my warrior is a tank

[drifting cosmos]

[flint gulch]

Unholy DK is freaking button bloat in a nut shell

[jade abyss]

Googles bloat okay but he have diseases and the best pet in tha game

[flint gulch]

and where is the considereation for people that have issues with button bloat?

[balmy condor]

oh boy this again

[jade abyss]

Idk never had problems with buttons bcs i have enough tbh dont understand that people at the beginning from df they say "OmG Assa so many buttons now what have they done???" 🫣

[royal lantern]

the consideration is "play bm/mm hunter/arms or fury warrior/evoker"

[royal lantern]

i mean, assa has button bloat

cant deny that

to many abilitys that are just USE ON CD TO DO DMG

[jade abyss]

What is it 3 buttons more? Exsang maybe bonespike and ic?

[thorn crater]

shiv is on cd

[jade abyss]

Only thing thats annoying for me is to push idk 6 buttons to start with blasting

[thorn crater]

ye i think the only button "issue" (if even that)

is what you need to use on opener to get shit going

then its chill

[jade abyss]

I played a lot rts maybe thats the reason why im notice not to much

Assa opener feels okay i guess but when i look to sub looks like piano

[flint gulch]

I guess im just annoyed that over all the years i play games acessability still isnt a higher priority in Online games . And dont mean just make things strait up easier

I woinder ive i should switch to a control scheme like lost ark has moving with the mouse if thats even possible?

even with having a 7 button layout on my mouse i still have trouble doing my rotation while having to move at same time.

[shrewd night]

People legitimately complaining about having to press 6 buttons as an opener have never laid eyes on some FF openers

[flint gulch]

I did and never touched FF14 again

[gaunt moat]

Our opener sequence is pretty hellish.
but i have no frame of reference compared to other classes

[royal lantern]

Tbf, ff openers are a joke cus its litearly doing 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 lol

the only opener that is a bit more involved is gunbreaker

funny cus its a tank

[flint gulch]

My left hand has a shortend muscle so it has trouble with stretching and bending i fast sucession and well worse eyesight onn my left side.

[royal lantern]

i have CTS mate, having a good layout for your needs and a mouse with multiple buttons does wonders

[flint gulch]

I use a 7 button layout on my mouse but im debating switching to a Lost Arkish layout where i move with the mouse instead of the keyboard

[gaunt moat]

Garrote > SnD > Garrote > SBS > Rupture > ER > Rupture > Exsang > Deathmark > (puzzlebox) > potion > Shiv > Thistle tea > (Mutilate > Envenom X 2-3) > Vanish > Garrote > Envenom > Garrote > Envenom

tbh, it took me a long time to practice it, and i still somehtimes fuck it up, just because there's so many steps to it.

[flint gulch]

how effective is moving via mouse in WoW compared to keyboard?

[gaunt moat]

keyboard is better at moving backwards 🐰

[flint gulch]

So it wouldnt be that big of a deal?

[gaunt moat]

and strafing.

basicsally mouse allows for only forward movement, unless you you have some special mouse keybinds.

[royal lantern]

isnt it garrote>snd>garrote>rupture>er>Rupture>sbs>vanish garrote>exsang>dm

[bright trail]

Still fkd up seeing BM hunters with Bow smashing 2 buttons ST and doin 100k overall on terros

[gaunt moat]

(shiv doesn't have to be there, cause it hits powered CP anyway)

but that's also true to using sbs at the point you've said
it doesn't matter, cause you're hitting an empowered CP

so just using ER > rupture is good enough, it's always 7CPs before exsang.

[royal lantern]

ye

like, lets be honest

assa opener is "get snd up, get max duration bleeds and puzzlebox running, and then exsang->dm"

the excat order is not important lol

[gaunt moat]

you did use a different opener that uses vanish early, which i don't use, but other than that yeah.
it's just that the way to go about it, is filled with a million buttons.

it's about 22-24 actions opener.

that's a lot.

[flint gulch]

Dont some people even unbind backwards movement ? Mouse turning is faster i assume?

[gaunt moat]

Yes, they strafe to move backwards

[flint gulch]

i kinda wish there was a addon that gave me mouse ovement options like lost ark has

[grim jay]

That would be awkward af

[flint gulch]

The only other thing havent tried would require additional hardware it would be a ambidexterous mouse

Or maybe its time to switch main to a ranged class that doesent needs move a lot?

[jade abyss]

I know in ff14 there is it possible to move with mouseklicks but it sucks, bcs in lost ark you have no specific targeting you "aoe" everything

[flint gulch]

FF14 i played with controller but no way i can do that in WoW

[pastel onyx]

try dance pads

[rotund wagon]

Does anybody else think sin on council is kinda fun now with AP

Felt like Oprah with bleeds last night

[royal lantern]

you refresh bleeds for the entire fight and press shiv on cd

idk man

if you like that, im Happy for you i gues? personaly think its kinda stupid

[rotund wagon]

I like being adhd with my target

Feels more involved than like cleaving off one target

[flint gulch]

Does Outlaw require less keybinds than Assa? Since im messing around with a lot of different Specs and classes i might as well

[royal lantern]

rogue specs are equal with keybinds iirc

[flint gulch]

On sub i have less than assa i macroed everything i could

[drifting cosmos]

Yea that’s probably not the optimum way to play

Sub you maybe use 1-2 macro, then the rest are mostly situational that requires you to use separately

[prime zealot]

a lariat for assa and sub, do i make crit+mastery right?

[drifting cosmos]

Yes

[flint gulch]

Well its either less optimal or not at all

As Orc do macro the Racial to Deathmark?

[gaunt moat]

no it's still hell.
except you do like 20k more dps. whoopeee.

[novel arrow]

!lariat

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1055055765980844093/image.png Lariat can proc ANY gem you have equipped, in any slot.

[grim jay]

My outlaw has less keybinds than my other 2 specs even with no macros

But its maybe 1 or 2

[keen spruce]

I think it's a vibe

more fun than outlaw at least

[gaunt moat]

vibe

there's nothing "fun" about it, it's not noticeable and doesn't affect gameplay

[keen spruce]

it's more involved than most of the fights in the raid lol

no i just mean assas in general on that fight

AP just make number go up

[gaunt moat]

we were talking about AP

[keen spruce]

i don't scroll

[gaunt moat]

i don't really like that fight as sin.
it feels like constantly playing catchup on dots, and it's very hard to track.
(But I'd admit i'm playing badly on that fight too)

And you're doing all that just to be below average dps.

[dawn kelp]

Ya

[rotund wagon]

I guess for me AP and playing sin on the fight go hand in hand because without it I wouldn’t be playing sin on the fight at all

[gaunt moat]

I wasn't saying don't take AP if that's what you understood

[rotund wagon]

Not what I got from it at all. I like the mini game of trying to keep everything going on all the bosses way more than having one target and cleaving off it. But before AP I couldn’t justify to myself playing sin on the fight. With AP though I don’t feel I’m trolling as hard anymore.

Getting bleeds goin then pressing a button to make ‘em all go brr is fun to me

[static glacier]

sin unironically like 8/10 difficulty on that fight while sub is 2/10

[rotund wagon]

Yeah, that’s what I like about it. Having way more to do and then managing to pull it off halfway well just feels more rewarding to me

[static glacier]

I play sin on a lot of fights bc I value having more boss dmg since I play with people who really like to aoe

feels like sin helps killing the boss more easily, even if dealing less overall in some cases

[rotund wagon]

I try to most of the time. My ears perk up when the RL asks people to be more single target oriented

[simple flower]

does anybody actually like using bone spike?

[static glacier]

yeah, it's a good button

one of the most useful buttons for dealing with spawning extra low target count adds

stuff like kurog big adds, dathea adds

[royal lantern]

*all Cases

your overall is the worst as assa lol

[keen spruce]

lots of execute value as assas

[static glacier]

nah, stuff that's primarily st you can win on overall, stuff like sennarth, terros, diurna if you're on boss compared to others

[keen spruce]

especially on prog

[unreal kayak]

is it worth having me save deathmark to 1:30 for the first big add on first platform on dathea

[gaunt moat]

But that's exactly what i dislike.
you have to play insanely well, just to be middle of the pack on DPS.
I don't feel like i'm contributing to winning.

not that it matters because that fight is a meme anyway.

[rotund wagon]

My group isn’t amazing if I play insanely well on it I’m probably on too haha

Top

[spice spire]

🤨

[onyx crane]

when exactly does one use grieftorch?

[spice spire]

On cd; with the caveat being “if you have PB, use that in your opener”

Then once the icd for second on use is done use grief

[little light]

ya'll doing keys- are you top dps on st bosses?

cause I rarely am xd

[spice spire]

Yeah

I mean if your CDs line up you’re chuckling

[little light]

I pop on pull but then I decay and get passed

when I get a second deathmark I go up again a bit but not much cause no box or exang

I might be doing something wrong

but I also feel like everybody else is just better at everything now than sin

[misty holly]

Not with IC spec. Single target damage takes a beating when you have to take this talent.

[static glacier]

our st dmg isn't bad in key spec

but don't expect to beat specs that actually blast st in dungeon build

[little light]

lots of spec can do both tho is the thing, generally if I have some party buffs I'm almost there tho

[dreamy gull]

https://tenor.com/view/mid-its-mid-ugly-nah-gif-19839131

[slow marsh]

how the heck did he get vendetta back

[glossy grove]

How high should be my crit stat for ST?

[slow marsh]

like 69% ish

[glossy grove]

Crit?

how tf you get 69% on crit

[devout drift]

[spice spire]

@slow marsh don’t troll

% doesn’t matter

[slow marsh]

my bad

69 crit

[slow marsh]

but really just do whatever sim says

there's no magic number

[spice spire]

Yeah robot smarter than man because smart man gave robot instructions

[glossy grove]

okay Ty

[spice spire]

The real answer is “sim it”

[gaunt moat]

once we'll figure that out we'll also get 97% parses

[slow marsh]

fr

I do like DM way more than vendetta tho

[gaunt moat]

but.. vandetta buffed ALL damage.

[spice spire]

How do u feel about DN tho

[slow marsh]

I love dn

[gaunt moat]

DM is just a weaker vendetta 🤔

[slow marsh]

I like dm much more

[gaunt moat]

I'll use vendetta on you.

[slow marsh]

ok

but also what if they made lethal dose apply to all bleeds and poisons and not just isolated per target

[spice spire]

Gives energy regen get woke pal

[slow marsh]

assa m+ saved

[gaunt moat]

No vendetta emoji

you're saved.

[slow marsh]

[thorn fjord]

<-- the new Vendetta

[brazen zodiac]

[gaunt moat]

🐰 <--- the new Vendetta

[vestal wren]

<- its right there

[slow marsh]

can't wait for exsang to get deleted

[brazen zodiac]

[slow marsh]

[weak isle]

[grim jay]

just wait for it

they will make exs a core ability

with lower cd

so you need to refresh more often

but nerf bleeds individually

so it doesnt get too strong

[still steppe]

!log

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[sudden canyon]

does anybody else take Thistle Tea as a required talent? Anytime i dont run it the Sin energy regen feels dreadfull.

[grim jay]

basically everyone

[dreamy gull]

Tea just feels good to use tbh

[sudden canyon]

it does. but only because without it you feel the lack of energy gen.

[slow marsh]

i mean what else are you gonna get with that point

we are pigeonholed into seal fate already and since it's so far down there's not really any reason not to take it

[warped pilot]

folks I have a really dumb question that you're gonna laugh at but I have to ask to sanity check myself. in full raid buffs I'm often sitting at high 30's crit which means that more often than not mut is giving me at least 3 CP each cast. is there ever a world in which I envenom at 4 to avoid wasting CP. I feel like no, but I have to check because I'm an idiot.

[grim jay]

max cp -1

is when you finish

always

except if you are on animacharged cps

and inside of the opener sequence

[neon kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-caveman-gif-15358844

[warped pilot]

alright, that's what I thought, but I just had to ask to keep my peanut brain from overthinking it. thanks!

[west swallow]

was messing around with sub a little at the dummies last night, kind of shit that their rupture is better than ours

[little light]

Rupture time again

lets go

[grim jay]

[west swallow]

lmfao sorry ive been purely sin for forever and dont really check this unless i have questions so i dont see all the talks

[little light]

same, all good, just read the rupture sin vs sub thing from time to time xd

[west swallow]

wheres that at

[little light]

just general ranting here

[gusty mirage]

dark brew, deeper daggers and finality

are all significantly better than any amps we have

good thing assassination is the bleed spec

amirite

[thorn fjord]

DD and Finality are both love

What does Dark Brew do again?

[gusty mirage]

converts all bleed and poison to shadow damage

so their rupture is entirely shadow

[grim jay]

[exotic hearth]

For M+ this week should we sac a point in elaborate planning/improved poison for lightweight shiv?

[thorn fjord]

Oh right

[gusty mirage]

drop imp poisons for it if you want 2 charges of shiv

ep kinda large

[slow marsh]

yeah 4% damage amp

we need all we can get

[nocturne lagoon]

@gusty mirage why is skyhold such a poopy discord server ?

[spice spire]

Because oxi isn’t leading them to victory

[neon kindle]

Poison bomb is the key to fixing ass rogue.

Put PB into the capstone for the left side of the tree. Make it a tad bit stronger/larger. Now all enemies gain a PB debuff when envenomed. This debuff lasts X seconds, and makes it so when The player has at least 2 (maybe 3?) targets near each other that have been envenomed. They can shiv to drop a poison bomb at their targets location (has to have the debuff).

I have no idea if this would be fun or good i just wanted to talk about an idea haha

[gusty mirage]

[neon kindle]

Ive always just wanted more PB control kuz i like the ability

[fallow canopy]

someone misses legion PB

[gusty mirage]

I mean it's a cool idea

[neon kindle]

Absolutly

[gusty mirage]

idk how fun it would be

[neon kindle]

Ty

[gusty mirage]

anything that gives you more options to play around things can be good

because idk if any of yall did broodkeeper while being in the "boss group"

[dreamy gull]

Uncap ct and make it baseline

[gusty mirage]

but its boring as fuck

CT is uncapped

[dreamy gull]

It says up to 8 no?

[gusty mirage]

it does less damage to targets beyond 8

[neon kindle]

I consistently voluntere to be the egg runner. Ive never not done that boss ass egg boi. So i understand

[royal lantern]

7min dmg dummy with feint mixed in

its fun after you did all other bosses as assa, aka "stay on boss and do dmg"

[gusty mirage]

that soft cap won't ever go away

[dreamy gull]

Well yea I mean full uncap

[gusty mirage]

that's never going to happen

[royal lantern]

target caps dont matter

[gray crest]

Initial hit is soft capped

[neon kindle]

Dun remember, whats ct again haha

/terms

[dreamy gull]

Tempest

[neon kindle]

Ohhh ok

[spice spire]

Crimson tempest

[thorn fjord]

I'd rather they revert PB to how it worked in Legion

[gusty mirage]

7minute snoozefest

[thorn fjord]

Huge zug zug dmg

worked well in aoe situations

Set and forget

[gusty mirage]

huge PB proc when the tank is moving the boss to the next set of eggs too

[thorn fjord]

Cant have it all

That wasnt the worst thing

but it did suck

[dreamy gull]

Diurna fr does feel like a target dummy

[neon kindle]

Anyway, im holding onto this forever since i got a compliment. And its going to my head fast

[gusty mirage]

@gray crest how did you play sub all tier

I don't get it

all 3 specs are so boring

I want something "complex" like arcane mage

[neon kindle]

This tier?

[gusty mirage]

[neon kindle]

Oh nvm, he cappin

[gusty mirage]

arcane mages pretending they need a phd for their rotation

[neon kindle]

[dreamy gull]

Last time I said I didn't like diurna whispyr got mad at me cause I only play LFR though

[thorn fjord]

Its only been 3 months since release and it already feels like a full year -_-

[gusty mirage]

remember when we had kingsbane?

and actually had fun playing assassination?

good times

[neon kindle]

Season 2 plz

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-i-member-randy-marsh-south-park-s20e1-member-berries-gif-20603949

[gusty mirage]

had actual burst damage

[gray crest]

Spite. Also some nostalgia

[neon kindle]

Poison bomb is the key

[gusty mirage]

nostalgia of WHAT

[dreamy gull]

Kb should be by far the best build because you actually need to think with your brain

[gusty mirage]

it was

until they ruined it

[neon kindle]

Because it was the most fun*

There i fixed it

[gray crest]

Shadow dance actually feeling like a strong cd again

[gusty mirage]

its not even a strong cd

[brazen zodiac]

LMAOOO

[royal lantern]

raid cancled

[brazen zodiac]

PUSH WEEK

[dreamy gull]

Yea now we get the afk dtb build where you don't even have to use spike or ambush procs

[royal lantern]

idk if i should be happy or sad cus its dathea prog

[neon kindle]

How about we just get rid of ER kuz i hate the ability.

[gusty mirage]

how about the rogue class gets a change

literally any change

[dreamy gull]

Reprimand is cool

[gusty mirage]

we'll start there

and then worry about specifics

[royal lantern]

exsang shares a spot with DtB and KB now

you said ANY change

[gusty mirage]

even better

[neon kindle]

Thats asking too much. And now blizz is going to ban you. Adios

[gusty mirage]

thank god

I'M FREE

SEE YOU LATER LOSERS

[neon kindle]

Kek

[dreamy gull]

Assassination Rogue

• All ability danage increased by 5%

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/freedom-gif-25824935

[dreamy gull]

There. Are you HAPPY now?

[gusty mirage]

yes actually

if you get pigeonholed into doing only ST damage

you should prolly be pretty good at it

no?

at least better than the classes that bring utility?

like frost mage?

[dreamy gull]

No, you will be outdamaged by beast hunter

[gusty mirage]

I mean hunter doesn't bring a raid buff

that's fine

losing to hunter in ST = fine

[royal lantern]

dont worry, now we get the mandatory 2 paladins next patch

[gusty mirage]

in b4 it gets gut

because blizzard hates ret

[dreamy gull]

I feel like bm should have been a tank spec but idk lol

[gusty mirage]

reminds me of a certain buff rogue had

[royal lantern]

i mean, it needs to be

[gusty mirage]

that didn't make it live

[royal lantern]

the entire ret aura concept is so stupid

[gusty mirage]

any restless crew enjoyers?

[dreamy gull]

They should just make sepsis broken that would actually be cool

[gusty mirage]

I mean

as long as it competes with bonespike

it'll lose

bonespike gives us a lethal dose stack

which is infinitely better than an empowered garrote every minute and a half

[dreamy gull]

I mean

Every rogue spec has it

And 0 play it

[neon kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/pour-drink-pouring-alcohol-respect-gif-5359107

[gusty mirage]

yeah because for some odd reason

blizzard never figured out what to do with it

after they "fixed" it putting us into stealth

the benefits of sepsis never did shit for rogue

the only reason it ever hit the radar of any play

was because the night fae soulbinds were just better in 9.0

and then later on when they giga buffed the conduit that made it slap hard + the covenant legendary

file it under the "neat idea, executed like shit" category

[dreamy gull]

Fw should be moved I think

Idk there's a lot you could do with the trees

They just aren't doing it

[gusty mirage]

perks of getting one of the first iterations of trees ig

dif is almost everyone got their heavily reworked

except us

[royal lantern]

imo its that blizzard still thinks 1 stealth ability is some absolutely insane crazy gain

[gusty mirage]

[royal lantern]

when in reality its "wow, ambush once"

[gusty mirage]

I mean sepsis was kinda cool when it gave actual stealth

was kinda problematic for world content tho

[dreamy gull]

https://i.imgur.com/NeklZt0.jpeg

the talent calc still having kb

like a dagger though the heart

[gusty mirage]

might wanna check the url of the page you're on

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination

[dreamy gull]

oh

beta

??

[gray crest]

He's prolly on beta talent tree

[dreamy gull]

for some reason

[gusty mirage]

the wonders of finding anything on wowhead

whoever invented their UI

is awful

finding anything that isn't on their front page is a pain in the ass

[dreamy gull]

i used the top bar

from a non beta page

and the link takes you to the beta one

https://i.imgur.com/0Di8mro.png

this one

lol.

[magic vine]

yea for some reason a bunch of the hotbar links go straight to the beta version which is aces

[gusty mirage]

Actual trash tier interface

[dreamy gull]

they should make marked for death increase ur dmg to the target or smth like gs

so it has use for st

https://i.imgur.com/sqcbUBy.png

lol

i forgot this existed

do i want 8 extra combo points for free or to increase the damage of an ability you use every 45 seconds. A real puzzler

[uncut echo]

Anyone wanna tell me I'm shit and take a look at my sin logs

[slow marsh]

Technically sepsis gives 2 stealth abilities now but yeah still always gonna lose to bone spike

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

I’m ready

I do this to myself daily

Already

[uncut echo]

!logreview

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[uncut echo]

Oh

[spice spire]

Just post I’ll thread

But wowa is actually decent now

Also

[subtle tundra]

dont tell this guy about vendetta

[uncut echo]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KLVNB2qjtakPfHxm/#type=damage-done&boss=-2&difficulty=0

Brood and dathea only

[subtle tundra]

yea but who are you

[uncut echo]

I wanna see if I'm capping out which I dont think is the case

Nokstella

Sorry

[spice spire]

Nokstella log review

[subtle tundra]

puzzblex gamer

🤮

[uncut echo]

For now, yeah

It fucks, super hard

[slow marsh]

so does joe

[spice spire]

Who’s Joe

[spice spire]

O

[royal lantern]

E

[viscid spear]

Oo ah ah

[gaunt moat]

OH OH

[uncut echo]

On kurog is it a dps gain in ST to maintain dots on last add?

[flint tusk]

yay spider bitch down. on to wind bitch >.<

[gusty mirage]

ya cause of the extra energy

but I wouldn't make it a priority when they get split

[uncut echo]

Copy that. I figured the energy would translate to more in ST.

Based

[wise frigate]

How did my discord tab to sin I never come here

[oak pulsar]

So for mythic dathea how do you guys do it do you just pop in the center and let others in ur group grab outliers if there are any?

For add phase specifically sorry

[gaunt moat]

I just stay on main platform, never go up

but if you were to go up, most you can do is just FoK>Envenom big add, do some interupts and hope for PBs.

[oak pulsar]

Ya no my raid has me up and is using my mass silence on adds for prog