assassination

[marble hemlock]

Happens here all the time too so it's not an American issue

[royal lantern]

Stuttgart 21?

[marble hemlock]

Ye exactly

[grim jay]

Considering how much money germany is burning for stuff that most of them dont want

[gusty mirage]

Sounds like the I-75 construction

[gray crest]

laughs in F-35 program

[gusty mirage]

That freeway has been under construction every day for the last 30 years

[balmy condor]

We had to walk a mile and a half around the city to get to the train platform because it was nothing but construction by-passes

[gusty mirage]

I can’t remember a time where there wasn’t construction on it

[balmy condor]

Was fun

[gusty mirage]

And thankfully it’s only the fastest way to get north and south

[royal lantern]

there was a tunnle nearby that was in construction before i was even Born, and finished building like 2years ago

[gusty mirage]

Not a big deal at all

[royal lantern]

im 25

[topaz bluff]

I-555 here has 30yrs+ construction going on and counting

[royal lantern]

[marble hemlock]

Stuttgart 21 was supposed to be done 2109. Current plan says it's gonna be done in 2025

[gusty mirage]

Also super important for international trade with Canada

Nbd

[balmy condor]

[gusty mirage]

Just under construction forever

[balmy condor]

I think I know this tunnel

Unless there’s another tunnel that also took about 20 years

[gusty mirage]

It’s wild

[topaz bluff]

30+yrs I-555 hasen't made it 25 miles lmao

[balmy condor]

Because that’s kinda not out of the question

[gusty mirage]

The way they repair roads in this country is so ass backwards

[balmy condor]

They repair roads in America?

[gusty mirage]

The interstates yes

Other ones no

[marble hemlock]

It's just the typical contract bidding problem

[gusty mirage]

They repaired the major road I drive on every day 10 times since 2002

[marble hemlock]

Everybody wants the contract, people underbid one another, people realize things can't be done that cheap/fast after all

[gusty mirage]

And it still looks like Baghdad circa 2003

[topaz bluff]

They did pave my driveway when I asked here when they re-did our town roads xD

[gusty mirage]

They redo your town roads????

[gray crest]

If you're talking about the road of death in Iraq/Kuwait, that happened in 1992

[topaz bluff]

14yrs ago they did rofl, that has to count?

[gusty mirage]

No I’m talking Baghdad post invasion in 03

Craters the size of small children everywhere

In fact they just redid a bridge and it’s already fucked up

It hasn’t been 2 months since it finished lol

[balmy condor]

That reminds me of a league secretary for one of my Wednesday leagues comparing my bowling alleys bathrooms to “an Iraqi bustop shitter”

[gusty mirage]

[royal lantern]

einhorntunnel, Schwäbisch Gmünd

[gusty mirage]

Keep giving me locations close to you

[royal lantern]

kp wie lange der genau war, aber das war ne baustelle solange ich mich erinnern konnte lol

[gusty mirage]

Imma show up one of these days

[grim jay]

Only german or english pls

[gusty mirage]

But you can’t tell seli

If I go to Germany without visiting him he’ll be upsetti with me

[topaz bluff]

13months to do our bridge here and it was done wrong anyways. Now it bumps and "hops" the whole time you drive over it lmao. 13 months of single lane traffic was awful

[royal lantern]

dude, im in a shity 300peeps village, no satelite can find it

[gusty mirage]

Big village

[gusty mirage]

Lmfao

God bless America

[topaz bluff]

keeps getting declined when it comes up to vote on fixing it because we dont want single lane traffic again

[gray crest]

Satellites these days can give you a prostate exam, are you sure about that?

[feral rivet]

In Sweden roads are pretty excellent in the southern parts and i feel like they redo town roads as needed etc on good time. But the north is completely forgotten

[royal lantern]

yes, cus its germany

ask every german about phone connenctions and internet

[marble hemlock]

You think i care

[royal lantern]

[marble hemlock]

And you'd be right

[gusty mirage]

I just wanna be on a beach somewhere

[drifting cloud]

google maps finds everything

[gusty mirage]

It’s below freezing rn and I don’t like it

[grim jay]

There are people in cities with over 300000 pop that dont have decent internet without connection issues in germany

Imagine

[topaz bluff]

comcast is over there too?

[gusty mirage]

lmfaooo

[balmy condor]

Ah, the tunnel im thinking of is near holzgerlingen

[drifting cloud]

imagine not living in a village having fiber since 2009 couldnt be me

[topaz bluff]

Germany sounding more like America away from America :3

[gusty mirage]

Imagine having fiber in a fucking village wtf

[balmy condor]

Imagine having working internet wtf

[gusty mirage]

Imagine living in California and having awful internet

[grim jay]

Imagine living in a village

[marble hemlock]

Imagine living on earth

[royal lantern]

could not be me

[drifting cloud]

cant you just buy some phone internet with shitloads of data or does that not exist in us

[balmy condor]

I’m in the self described tech capital of the world and can’t stream 720p without my bitrate cratering

[gray crest]

In America, it's easier to get a job at Comcast, learn how to install fiber, quit, and install fiber yourself than it is to actually get fiber from a company

[gusty mirage]

Sure, but our cell service is awful

[topaz bluff]

yeah, I still dont have fiber in my home area not available here.

[gusty mirage]

Assuming that’s what you’re talking about

[gusty mirage]

I just got fiber 2 years ago

After Verizon and google promised it to us 15 years ago

[topaz bluff]

eta 5 years for us last I checked

[gusty mirage]

Ironically, AT&T was the first to deliver

[marble hemlock]

Nice assa talk btw

[drifting cloud]

snd

[marble hemlock]

Mods making their own rules

[grim jay]

Scaling

[gusty mirage]

Snd stupid or whatever @royal lantern ‘s mad about today

[marble hemlock]

Idk i got him blocked

[gusty mirage]

Lmao

[grim jay]

[gusty mirage]

Imma go back to talking 40k with zeph

[royal lantern]

i didnt even start the discussion man

[gusty mirage]

[silk rover]

me stab me play ass

[marble hemlock]

I don't, actually, but I'd like to think a part of him died when he thought i did.

[royal lantern]

and only went in, said SnD bad once and then stopped

[subtle tundra]

Hurrrr durrr kb dead Ap disappointing

[royal lantern]

but discussion was allready running

[grim jay]

Dw sin scaling is great

[topaz bluff]

When do I channel pbox?

[royal lantern]

on the GCD from ER before using rupture

[marble hemlock]

@spice spire when to channel you?

[balmy condor]

The highest in fact according to numbers

[royal lantern]

source

[balmy condor]

Scaling as we know is the most important metric for specs

[topaz bluff]

needs more nerfs, buff warriros/mages, and UH dk they dont scale either

[marble hemlock]

It's why we got nerfed. Assa too strong if we already top meters in first tier, since we scale better

[balmy condor]

Yeah makes sense honestly

[grim jay]

Warriors did scale really well with 10.0.5 tho

[balmy condor]

Kb was scaling out of control

Was almost clearly better than dtb in single target

[drifting cloud]

kb was beating the scaly dragon so it had to be nerfed

[royal lantern]

productive workday btw, weld a bit, shitpost in RH while waiting for the stuff to cool down

[royal lantern]

imagine dracthyr assa rogue

so many scales

scaling would be insane

[grim jay]

Best shit was someone saying scaling is a big factor and sin scaling is huge bcs we stack mastery

[marble hemlock]

It's why whispyr went vulpera, he can tent to his favorite place much faster when he gets benched

[flint tusk]

ooof

not false

[royal lantern]

ww monk telling you "its because ww scales bad!!!" Evertime the spec is not SSSSS Tier in m+

[toxic burrow]

Flustered when doing m+s with my guild on some nights. Our Ret paladin is a narcissistic punk that's always flaunting his DPS in the dungeons. 5 ilvls above me and constantly stroking his own dong over how great his damage is on trash/overall. Doesn't matter if I can dumpster him on boss fights because the trash damage just amounts to so much. And his usual line? "Wow, a pure DPS class is getting beaten by a ret pally."

Urge to kill rising!

[royal lantern]

fire mages telling you "fire needs crit for scaling" every single tier, when fire doesnt even stack crit for like 6years now

[gusty mirage]

@marble hemlock where stream?

[marble hemlock]

Huh

[gusty mirage]

idk

[grim jay]

Rets exist in M+ ?

[marble hemlock]

Dude i normally sleep at this hour

[gusty mirage]

you don't sleep

[marble hemlock]

I do

[toxic burrow]

He's the only one I know of, so yeah, I guess.

[topaz bluff]

wait until you meet a monk

[grim jay]

Monks have great personalities

Wdym

[toxic burrow]

My friend is a monk. : D
Oh, it's not the DPS itself. It's the pally's absolute ego-trip that's just irritating.

[gusty mirage]

remind him that he plays ret pally

that's literally the only response needed

[silk rover]

lol

[gusty mirage]

like grats you can divine storm trash

[grim jay]

Just outdps him

[gusty mirage]

you're useless in all content

& you're as squishy as a hunter

despite wearing plate

unlucko

[silk rover]

"ok ret"

[toxic burrow]

Lol. Fair enough. I guess I'll also just shadowstep terrible things into him.

[gusty mirage]

this is the way

even better

wait until you're the last 2 with thundering

sprint away

cloak the stun

and make him waste bubble so he dies in the next pull

[royal lantern]

bubble is on cd from last pull

[gusty mirage]

even better

tbag him when he dies to thundering

[toxic burrow]

As if that's a factor. He's the guy that's been saying he'd rather not cleanse and force the rest of us to do so so he can keep the DPS buff.

Though... Hell. I just remembered something that's vital to this.

[gusty mirage]

oh I have a solution to that one too

get the plater addon that shows who the mob is casting on

and when its on him

just forget to kick

(:

[toxic burrow]

He talks all this good shit about how good his damage is, but our healer actively drops the holy paladin night fae buff on him to boost him further. We're close in dmg as is so without that he'd be choking on his own words.

[marble hemlock]

He's just overcompensating cause he feels useful for once in his miserable wow existence

[grim jay]

Easiest solution would be to just not play with him tho

[gusty mirage]

well that's not as fun as griefing him

[grim jay]

Just saying

[toxic burrow]

I have the corpse-mangling toys on my sidebar for moments like these. "Oh, you died again? Time to disgrace your body!"

[gusty mirage]

[silk rover]

wait until next patch when he's probably dogshit again and then be insufferable about it

[marble hemlock]

Griefing him just makes you look like an ass and fucks over the rest of the group too

[silk rover]

yeah but funny

[gusty mirage]

they have a ret pally

they're already getting fucked over

[grim jay]

But he is playing ass tho

[marble hemlock]

So are you

[silk rover]

HEH

[marble hemlock]

You're literally playing ass

[gusty mirage]

dude wtf do EU players watch on twitch this early in the day

my options are jdotb, drjay, gingi, and psybear

[grim jay]

I'm puzzled if we mean the same

[gusty mirage]

wtf do you guys do

[toxic burrow]

He's a good friend of the tank I love doing dungeons with. :<

I just have to embrace true toxicity as a rogue should to counter him.

[grim jay]

Or you insulted me 😢

[marble hemlock]

So 4 people that know how to play the game?

[gusty mirage]

have you seen drjay try to play a rogue?

don't tell me that man knows how to play the game

[marble hemlock]

You could watch me and say the same

[gusty mirage]

okay buddy

[toxic burrow]

Take him as an understudy and coach him through the ways of the rogue?

[keen smelt]

Let the man stream when he wants? Wtf is this entitlement holy moly

[grim jay]

Just be a better friend to the Tank. Port him to dungeons, do the professions he needs, kiss him goodnight and destroy their relationship

[turbid heath]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[gusty mirage]

do I know you?

[toxic burrow]

Taking notes. Alright, it's time to bromance my tank. Let's go!

[subtle tundra]

Don't watch twitch

[grim jay]

I see white male privilige

[gusty mirage]

based

I fucks with psybear tho

[silk rover]

TRUE

[subtle tundra]

Just doing some bench press

[gusty mirage]

absolute legend

[jaunty lotus]

I have yet to see a Ret do well on overall, how much is this guy pulling? And what key level?

[silk rover]

"I am going to subscribe to someone on Twitch" - the actual, literal deranged

[gusty mirage]

our prot pally used to be a ret main

he cranks

but he's also perma sad

cuz ret sucks

lmao

[grim jay]

Free sub

[silk rover]

if I give you free meth that doesn't mean you have to use it

[gusty mirage]

yes I do

[grim jay]

I would

[gusty mirage]

I would never insult you by not consuming your thoughtful gift

[silk rover]

I mean I would too but still

[silk rover]

Yeah true

[gusty mirage]

[toxic burrow]

Remembers fellas, always donate your meth to the needy.

[grim jay]

Its free and helps a person tho

[gusty mirage]

imagine how much more productive you'd be with a lil meth

suddenly you have 24 hours in a day

[royal lantern]

if you get free drugs, you use them wtf

shit is expansive, you cant afford to be picky

[gusty mirage]

no need for sleep

[grim jay]

Basically unlocks your full potential

[silk rover]

more meth, more keys

[grim jay]

Whispyr is close

[toxic burrow]

This was the real gift that Nozdormu received. He used it to cultivate his mastery over time.

[slim hamlet]

Clickz

[subtle tundra]

6 reps 60kg let's go

[gusty mirage]

[fleet imp]

Big man

[uncut echo]

I only run, I don't lift much

Because I hate myself

Also big man

[grim jay]

Rogue discord so supportive

[subtle tundra]

Awesome guys/ladies

[grim jay]

Tell the warrior discord you bench less than 140kg

[subtle tundra]

[grim jay]

90% there think they are bajheera

[toxic burrow]

If you can't titan's grip two objects that each rival your own weight, are you even a true warrior?

[slim hamlet]

You're not in Varas

[fleet imp]

Smf war is what?

[slim hamlet]

No idea

Was too afraid to ask

[fleet imp]

Go for it

[grim jay]

The 80% might be the case

[fleet imp]

He might be in

[grim jay]

Who knows

[subtle tundra]

Fuck 100kgs

Thats like

[slim hamlet]

Unlucky

[subtle tundra]

20 something kgs above my bodyweight

If they weight 120kg and they bench 100kg its not fair

[grim jay]

Lightweight buddy

[fleet imp]

80kg no shot you can send less than 80kg

[subtle tundra]

I'm fat ok

[fleet imp]

Be angry

[slim hamlet]

Aintnoway u said 80kg is fat

[fleet imp]

Imagine you depleted a 25 CoS

[subtle tundra]

No I'm not but I'm used to saying it

I'm 180cm

😭

[fleet imp]

The tank didn't let you restealth before pulling the boss

This should work

Go hit that 80

[grim jay]

You exs your DM

[subtle tundra]

I mean I can probably 1 rep it

But I don't do that

[slim hamlet]

Imagine not being born in northern europe and automatically being secured 185cm minimum

[brazen rampart]

balkans also have that secured tbh

[slim hamlet]

Varas was hungarian no?

I cant remember

[fleet imp]

Thats what he said 😂

[subtle tundra]

Why you mean to me

What have I done wrong

[slim hamlet]

Something around there

Bulgarian

[subtle tundra]

Wtf

Blocked

[strange python]

Was?

[slim hamlet]

Romania

[subtle tundra]

Yes please don't call me those things

[grim jay]

He doesnt identify as anymore

[slim hamlet]

Was close tho

[grim jay]

Half mold

[subtle tundra]

Yessir

[strange python]

What's he identify as now, 100% purebred degenerate?

[slim hamlet]

Ye

[subtle tundra]

Alcoholic genes

[royal lantern]

you called?

[strange python]

This channel is like a hall of fame of people I've unblocked right now

[royal lantern]

red hair, left handed, 2m irl and a furry, im the pinnacle of degenerancy

[slim hamlet]

Ew

left handed

[royal lantern]

funfact, lefthanded people have a very very slightly lower average lifespan wordlwide

[slim hamlet]

Good

[subtle tundra]

Red hair? You mean ginger?

[grim jay]

If you were 1.3m you would be the irl vulpera

[royal lantern]

god i wish

[subtle tundra]

God I need a haircut

Actual jungle in my head

[earnest remnant]

i went for a PR not long ago, and broke my forearm doing it

[subtle tundra]

Awesome now your pr will be lower so you can pass it easier

Life hack

[grim jay]

I suddenly remembered, wasnt there a guy named weak in here like 6 years ago ?

[slim hamlet]

boomer

[grim jay]

@shrewd night you should know

[shrewd night]

You mean @warm parcel ?

[grim jay]

Oh yeah right

Was pretty active back then

[gusty mirage]

his retail guild called it quits iirc

[shrewd night]

Was sad reading

[slim hamlet]

Smartest guild

[grim jay]

Good old times

[shrewd night]

Back when Assa chat was Assa chat.

[grim jay]

Koffing was a filthy casual named Shiennar back then aswell

[slim hamlet]

We still chat about the spec

at least 10% of the time

[grim jay]

Boy did He change

[shrewd night]

Paku for Consistency

[kind forge]

wasnt it "toxic blade on CD" back then, all day long ?

[marble hemlock]

tbf memento disbanded like every tier and came back every other tier like 4 or 5 times

[gusty mirage]

okay buddy

the spec's been the same for 10 years

we have people complaining about exsanguinate still

we rotate between questions that have been answered 5 million times

and people complaining about exsang and/or snd

[slim hamlet]

deadly or instant poison?

[outer cairn]

Run DtB then put deadly and instant on for maximum troll

[brazen rampart]

instant cause it's faster, duh

[outer cairn]

Top 5 repeated questions, not necessarily in this order.

1. When do I use box?
2. Which poisons do I use?
3. What build does the most?
4. What’s the opener?
5. Do I DM then Exsang?

[subtle tundra]

Ct or envenom in aoe

Answer: it doesn't matter

[balmy condor]

And they’re all in the faq

[outer cairn]

Shut the front door

[steel spire]

What's a faq

[outer cairn]

Opposite of a qaf

Questions asked frequently

[balmy condor]

Its short for “faq me i did. all this work and people don’t read it”

[sturdy mesa]

DM before Exang yes?

[outer cairn]

[spice spire]

[outer cairn]

I don’t mind answering questions cause usually sometimes there is a follow on of “but why” then you explain it and the light goes on in their Sin Brains but yeah a little reading first always helps

[subtle tundra]

I can't read

[vocal seal]

make sure to always delete your DM with exang guys !!

[steel spire]

Any faq mains

[sturdy mesa]

Tahm kench?

[outer cairn]

I DM Exsang on open right

[strange python]

Why are u awake

[grim jay]

He is back up

Got his 3 hours

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/jfk-clone-high-i-like-your-funny-words-magic-man-jack-black-gif-18659433

[pseudo hamlet]

Exang, then DM

[grim jay]

[pseudo hamlet]

#assassination-faq

[slim hamlet]

Didnt get the meme

Sadge

[pseudo hamlet]

fuck memes

[slim hamlet]

D:

[sturdy mesa]

[pseudo hamlet]

Just logged on and saw that message, didn't see the previous conversation

[slim hamlet]

How dare you not look at sin discord 24/7

[pseudo hamlet]

Wish I had that kind of time for such a thing...

[warm parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-gif-21901728

[slim hamlet]

U have been summoned

[warm parcel]

and ye

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-pathetic-principal-skinner-gif-19732520

[warm parcel]

momento is just a hardcore classic dadgamer guild now

retail is casual now

[slim hamlet]

Hardcore + dadgamer

sick

[outer cairn]

[warm parcel]

man boomer life hits hard

no time to wow anymore

[outer cairn]

Hustle and make money so you can play wow.

I haven’t played since 8 Jan. Adulting down at fort Polk. Two more days and I’m home.

[warm parcel]

raiding this xpac turned out kinda expensive when you dont have that much time

[spice spire]

Yeah it did

[outer cairn]

Expensive?

[spice spire]

Pots/enchants/crafting/etc

[warm parcel]

Ye with no real time to grind proffs and stuff

Hurt a little to put 100k enchants on weps

[outer cairn]

Yeah. I’m wondering what prices are@like on my server when I get back. I just been using the cheaper enchants till start to get max gear

[warm parcel]

Now theyre a fair bit lower

[outer cairn]

That’s good. I did buy a SD3 for my crafted dagger

But that’s about it. Still need to get a max primary gem for my necklace but I got that to 418. My fingers are crossed that I have at least a heroic Eranog ring sitting in my vault. Then I can cata pants to tier, max them out cause I’ll have 3k valor to farm, max CoS ring, craft cowl and get that to 418 and then wait for next heroic clear to get@my aotc and fed anything not needed which should be a lot.

[steel ridge]

sepsis still doesnt enable improved garrote right?

[outer cairn]

!faq?

[warm parcel]

I skipped 421 cos ring from vault

Wasnt an up for me

[spice spire]

[outer cairn]

Idk that one. My understanding is that it allows you to use an ability that you would otherwise have to be in stealth to use. It doesn’t actually put you in stealth so therefore you wouldn’t be able to Imp Garrote. That’s just my understanding of how it works. I could be wrong.

[steel ridge]

yeah thats probably right

[spice spire]

Man I thought my rings were good with 421 fire ring and 415 Signet of mel.

Yeesh

[warm parcel]

guess the 421 would win with socket

but I just took the socket for dps gain that week

[outer cairn]

Yeah I should probably look at Whispyr current spreadsheet. Come back and it’s all changed. But my plan is kinda dependent on eranog ring.

If not I guess I’ll just farm valor and fuck off till raid

[gusty mirage]

are you back?

[warm parcel]

back at what

momento left

I never did

[gusty mirage]

playing retail

[warm parcel]

I just work nowadays

[gusty mirage]

[brazen zodiac]

wo-work..? :o

[outer cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/im-thinking-im-back-john-wick-keanu-reeves-gif-13729874

[warm parcel]

ye we got raza down last week

[brazen zodiac]

👻

[gusty mirage]

gaming

[outer cairn]

Missed the chance to reference John wick

[warm parcel]

havent seen the movies

pls dont kill me

[outer cairn]

What????

You do be adulting

[brazen zodiac]

niether have i

its ok

[hollow river]

Iirc it does

[brazen zodiac]

i dont even know who jhon wick is honestly

[hollow river]

Maybe someone else can verify

[brazen zodiac]

"Legendary assassin John Wick (Keanu Reeves)"

[outer cairn]

Summon @balmy condor

[thorn fjord]

Let him sleep

[brazen zodiac]

is keanue reeves not a real person

[thorn fjord]

Reptillian

[hollow river]

Noo let whispyr rest

[outer cairn]

He’s had his 30 minutes

[brazen zodiac]

[gusty mirage]

still playing the rogue?

[hollow river]

[warm parcel]

aye back to rog for this tier

got to play all 3 specs too

[outer cairn]

I didn’t know he was sleeping. Sleep tight tiny dancer

[marble hemlock]

can we stop it with the random pinging of people unless its an actually important thing?

[gusty mirage]

hell yeah its been a good tier for rogue tbh

despite all the bs nerfs

[brazen zodiac]

hi seliathan insert ping here

[marble hemlock]

or at least not do it like, 10x a day

[warm parcel]

ye rogue felt quite nice indeed

granted I got kinda lucky

literally got like 50 daggers as drop

[brazen zodiac]

tell them how you really feel

[warm parcel]

and only rogue in guild

[gusty mirage]

[marble hemlock]

flowi still play?

[gusty mirage]

our 2nd terros kill dropped 2 415 daggers

[wary ice]

Only rogue in raid, I'm sitting on like 40 daggers too

[warm parcel]

flowis only in classic

yea man daggers do be dropping

[marble hemlock]

classic andy

[warm parcel]

its insane

[marble hemlock]

jh

[wary ice]

I'm at the point where I sell them to our disenchanters for like 2k

[outer cairn]

Seen Terros dagger multiple times. Only one from Diurna though

[thorn fjord]

Have you guys started brood prog yet? @gusty mirage

[marble hemlock]

coming out of beta, how do guilds only have 1 rogue? :x

[thorn fjord]

We only have 1 rogue in on prog

[gusty mirage]

yes

[wary ice]

Everyone was driding arcane and fury

[thorn fjord]

Hows that going

[gusty mirage]

we only had 2 and that's because @gray crest gave up on trying to learn how to play arcane

[wary ice]

Aotc gamers 💪 🦅

[gray crest]

I saw the play style that was about to happen and I vomited

[gusty mirage]

I vividly remember our RL saying

"I'm not bringing 2 rogues"

lmao

now everyone wants to play rogue

[gray crest]

Just wait till raenz goes rogue

[marble hemlock]

thats almost as bad as saying "were gonna 4heal kurog"

[gusty mirage]

I'd rather not

[outer cairn]

We only have two. Me as Sin and the other Outlaw.

[gusty mirage]

but is that as bad as sending your rogue to IC + IW garrote adds on a platform on dathea?

because your prot pally can't figure out how to divine toll properly?

[marble hemlock]

idk that sounds smart to me, actually

[earnest remnant]

atleast not as bad as my guild, 2 rogues both Sub otp's

[gusty mirage]

and your enhancement shaman couldn't find wind shear if his life depended on it?

[thorn fjord]

impressive that you guys made it that far 😛

[gray crest]

The same prot pally that used boon on terros prog

[brazen zodiac]

lol

[thorn fjord]

You guys a 9 hour guild?

[wary ice]

I got to afk dathea for our last non skip reclear and it was heavenly

[gusty mirage]

ye

I told them if we reclear they need to figure something out for the first platform

because I'm not playing IC again

I parsed a fucking 9

[earnest remnant]

based

[outer cairn]

Using Iron Wire on Dathea adds? I’d riot

[warm parcel]

idno man

were casuals

you like warrior you play warrior

:D

[gusty mirage]

they get that kind of shit out of me for prog kills

for reclears?

naw fam

figure your shit out

[vale lantern]

Is 9 hours a week alot ?

[gusty mirage]

it's about 9 hours more than I want to raid

[outer cairn]

At least my RL understands that I’m basically just a ST funnel. He makes the outlaw rogue deal with the AoE bullshit.

[gray crest]

We were in the lower 30th percentile for that boss btw @gusty mirage

[gusty mirage]

I'm so shocked

[thorn fjord]

Eh my guild is 9 hours... some do 12 or more

[gusty mirage]

I had 0 faith we killed it

when we killed it I was genuinely surprised

[vale lantern]

Fair my guild does 8 and sometimes i feel like thats alot

[earnest remnant]

im rdy with all the sub rogue info for you

my body is ready

[gusty mirage]

that reminds me

I have to do something real quick

[outer cairn]

We do 6, sometimes 8-9 if we have the bodies on the weekend.

[thorn fjord]

@gusty mirage we had to essentially reprog kurog sunday because we had 3-4 callouts

[wary ice]

Most like, heroic progression guilds are 6/week

[thorn fjord]

and people wouldnt stop running the shit all over the group in p1

[steel spire]

Vault pics uwu

[wary ice]

Or les

[thorn fjord]

so stupid

[warm parcel]

doesnt wcl show your guilds stats

like how many hours a week you proge

[thorn fjord]

Think you have to put that in the guild bio

[warm parcel]

Ah I thought there would be some cool automatic tracking

Like they have for progression on boss hp

[vale lantern]

Ah okay we do 8 but were also only 8/8H 3/8M atm but it took us a while to figure out who was gonna be apart of the mythic team

[gusty mirage]

ya

[shrewd night]

Progstat.io or something

[earnest remnant]

my guild is on a 10 hour schedule

[gusty mirage]

on wcl

[wary ice]

Yeah 6-9 is a nice, average # of hours a week

2-3 days of 2-3 hours

[earnest remnant]

we do 4-3-3

[vale lantern]

We do 2 days of 4

[thorn fjord]

We're bad =/

Kurog is gonna fall over now with the nerfs tho

[warm parcel]

ye this kinda stats are cool

I like em

[versed canopy]

we raided last night. got stuck on Heroic Kurog

we have skipped dathea for now

[gusty mirage]

why are you bad

[earnest remnant]

our kurog pull count

[gusty mirage]

cause I mean

if you're comparing yourself to HoF guilds

yeah we're bad

but like

the average wow player will never see mythic kurog

or dathea

[wind condor]

Hopefully we smack Dathea this week too

[earnest remnant]

we had funny number on Rasz

269

[gusty mirage]

[thorn fjord]

Sennarth shouldnt have taken us as many pulls as it did

And we have people that just dont care enough

[gusty mirage]

I mean dathea and kurog shouldn't have taken us 76 and 72 pulls respectively

but it is what it is

[thorn fjord]

So bosses take 2x longer than they should for us

Yeah

[wary ice]

this kills prog for me

[gusty mirage]

the worst part imo

is how some raid leads handle people fucking up

like hounding someone for fucking up is only going to make them play worse

not everyone is me, I'm used to gaming in a constant state of tilt

[gray crest]

Some of our pulls on kurog was on a Thursday with a skeleton crew.

[thorn fjord]

Yeah theres a nuance to that

[gusty mirage]

once 8pm rolls around

I'm already tilted

because I know I'm going to waste 3 hours of my life fighting pixels on a computer screen

[thorn fjord]

lol

[wary ice]

"hey babe its time to rupture for 3 hours"

[gusty mirage]

you know how awful it feels

to hold vanish

for a minute 45

[thorn fjord]

my issue is that i feel that every person in the main group (20 people) should all be on the same page as far as personal class knowledge and fight knowledge

[gusty mirage]

when its a dps cooldown?

[thorn fjord]

but thats never the case

[gusty mirage]

because you need to garrote platform adds?

like I was seething

oh you'd hate raiding with me

I don't do any research before bosses

like at all

idk what half the mechanics are

still

I've pulled kurog about 100 times now from initial prog & reclear

[thorn fjord]

[gusty mirage]

still don't know what any of the mechanics actually are

[wary ice]

i havent done m kurog yet but i could not tell you the heroic changes

[thorn fjord]

But atleast you know your class inside out

[gray crest]

Funny thing is oxi is one of the best raiders

[thorn fjord]

which is still a huge part of being able to prog well i think

[gusty mirage]

this is the way I look at it

there's at least 5 other people

who don't know wtf is going on

so we need at least 10 pulls to learn the mechanics

why make myself mad

by doing my homework

when I can learn with them!

[thorn fjord]

heroic fight is kind of the mythic fight just backwards without all the fluff

[wary ice]

[gusty mirage]

also low key I might be on the spectrum

because I only need to see a boss 2-3 times

[thorn fjord]

@gusty mirage thats sound logic tbh lol

[gusty mirage]

and I can figure out what I need to do

I just internalize all this shit unwillingly

I know what every mob in every dungeon does

[vale lantern]

Where do u see this?

[gusty mirage]

go to your guild's WCL page and click progress at the top

[wary ice]

idt "basic pattern recognition" is why you may or may not be on the spetrum, for what its worth

[vale lantern]

Ah we had a problem where our guild wasnt registering property and were waiting on support i wonder if we still are

[gusty mirage]

can't remember what I ate 2 days ago

but I know every single cast a mob does in a dungeon

[royal lantern]

food

[wary ice]

food doesnt give you that bad feeling when you die to it tho

[gusty mirage]

true

my RL was watching my vod of kurog

to see what its like in melee

and goes "why do you run out so far?"

like bro dead dps is 0 dps

I don't need a purple parse

I need the boss dead

[wary ice]

ranged privilege tbh

[gusty mirage]

he wanted to know how I got hit by the freeze ball for the first time in 70 pulls

[wary ice]

did he follow it up with complaining about all the range only mechanics that make him have to be awake during a boss fight

[gusty mirage]

and it was cause the 2 other melee were with me died to it

so I had to play run into range of the tank to not freeze

running toward that mechanic is spooky

I didn't even know that was a mechanic

LOL

I was like there's a circle that appears around me when no one is near me

[vale lantern]

Yeah damn only shows brood and rasz

[gusty mirage]

this might be bad

[thorn fjord]

gonna sound dumb but i think that mechanic is harder on heroic lol

[gusty mirage]

no, it's just on heroic people don't give a shit

so they play like shit

it's like primal council

by the end of the fight

half the raid has marks

because people know its a pushover

[wary ice]

council makes me not want to raid

[gusty mirage]

try council with 2 DHs

[thorn fjord]

Why? its so easy

[gusty mirage]

that's the hardmode right there

[slim hamlet]

U just stand afk in the corner on council

Legit just take all melee

[wary ice]

I do 😦

[slim hamlet]

sit them in a corner

and u win

[gusty mirage]

I did that fight on my alt warlock

and I don't know how ranged have any room to bitch about anything

you plant next to one of the back pillars

and just cast

ggs

[vale lantern]

We do it with 2 dhs and like 8 total melee

[slim hamlet]

oh boi

we häd 13 melees

[gusty mirage]

we had a blast

[wary ice]

i keep trying to play my warlock but he has 2% haste and all the warlock information is from BFA for some reason

[thorn fjord]

We have 2.. aint bad really cause theyre both competent

[gusty mirage]

yeah...

I have 18% haste and its rough

chaos bolt takes 6.5 weeks to cast

[wary ice]

u ever cast a 3s chaos bolt :^)

litterally getting my doctorate inbetween them

[gusty mirage]

LMAO

bro its so bad

my god

unlucky I like destro ig

destro ST and cleave is fun af

destro aoe makes me want to commit sudoku

[wary ice]

absolute vibe tbh

[thorn fjord]

I only like AFf

Aff*

[wary ice]

Aff is fine, i dont mind it. i think id like it alot more with more haste tbh

[gusty mirage]

I used to until malefic became a thing

[wary ice]

the only fun part of Demo is making way too many imps

[dusk summit]

Quick question about our opener with exang.
As we don't take SBS anymore do we just straight drop that from the opener or is there a change in it?

[gusty mirage]

we for sure still take sbs

[thorn fjord]

was about to say

[gusty mirage]

sbs too strong to drop in ST

[thorn fjord]

We're not taking SBS anymore

[gusty mirage]

unless you mean m+

[dusk summit]

Yes m+. Sorry should have clarified.

[gusty mirage]

yea you'd just drop bonespike from the opener

man if only they gave us deathspike instead of doomblade

sbs would be SO good in M+

[dusk summit]

Gotcha.
It does feel off as there are less combo points before exang and DM window.

[gusty mirage]

yeah assassination in m+ right now just feels clunky af

esp with all the buttons we have

[dusk summit]

There are a few thing they could do for us in M+.

They won't we get all the hate.

[gusty mirage]

True

at least we got an aoe shiv ig

that we just never play

[wary ice]

is big shiv not a build yet

[gusty mirage]

it is on council

and probably pvp

[dusk summit]

The aoe shiv show have been added to light shiv.

We needed and still need something to help in a burst aoe situation. Even with IC by the time all bleeds and poison are up everything is half dead.

[silk rover]

just play with worse dps, fixed

[solid mica]

Wdym frost needs another 5%'er

[gusty mirage]

true

let's make it 10% just to be safe

they're really struggling rn

[thorn fjord]

I dont want to wait till 2pm to open my fucking vault

[gusty mirage]

also buff arms warrior

[versed canopy]

I am hoping to get my shoulder set piece from the vault today

[thorn fjord]

I'm getting eggnog ring

I feel it

today is the day

[gusty mirage]

big shoulders (either token or catalyzed piece from M+)

[gusty mirage]

I'm channeling all my good luck to you

[versed canopy]

my current shoulders are 389 so i dont really wana catalyze them

[gusty mirage]

because my only upgrade are tier pieces at higher ilvl

[versed canopy]

I also wouldnt mind a dagger

[gusty mirage]

you see I said that

then I got the haste vers dagger

and I wanted to die

and then I started trying to figure out why there's a haste vers dagger in the loot pool

[versed canopy]

monk or feral most likely

[gusty mirage]

monks can't use daggers I don't think

[thorn fjord]

Monk dont use dagger tho

[gusty mirage]

and feral can't dual wield daggers

[thorn fjord]

Yeah they use a 2h

[gusty mirage]

and OHs are strictly int

so they go 2h

[thorn fjord]

Its blizzard memeing us again.

[gusty mirage]

I used to be confused at the vers/mastery 1handers from previous expacs

[thorn fjord]

or it was an OL off hand

[gusty mirage]

but then I remember like 8 classes can use that 1h

so it kinda makes sense

but agi daggers?

[thorn fjord]

Pirates dont like using non daggers on OH now

[gusty mirage]

it's literally the worst stat distribution for all 3 specs

[thorn fjord]

So it CAN make sense

HO likes haste

Sort of

🤷‍♂️

[gusty mirage]

yeah but they'd rather take crit/vers no?

[thorn fjord]

Yeah

but beggers cant be choosers either

[solid mica]

Or mastery tbh

[versed canopy]

we want crit mast right?

[gusty mirage]

yeppers

[thorn fjord]

Talking OL

[kind forge]

in previous xpacs they did like haste/vers

[versed canopy]

is there a crit mast dagger?

[thorn fjord]

they want crit/verse

[gusty mirage]

I think the smbg one is?

I wouldn't know, never seen it drop

[solid mica]

Its halls

[gusty mirage]

I have gotten the boots 18 times tho

[kind forge]

nah its fenryr dagger

[gusty mirage]

oh the other non-existent dagger

[solid mica]

But ur right, it dropping is illegal

[thorn fjord]

Brood dagger is crit haste?

[gusty mirage]

I've gotten 2 horns of valor and 4 blood trinkets

and I have yet to see the dagger

[versed canopy]

I have the crafted dagger and terros dagger right now

[thorn fjord]

Oh shit i forgot i got a heroic boon last night

M+ Poggers

[solid mica]

Its actually cringe trying to get weapons no one else fuckin uses. Either it never drops from m+ cause youre the only one on the loot pool, or you get one from raid and then the rest of the ones that drop are useless for your raid

[versed canopy]

as outlaw on our first 2 kills of terros, the dagger dropped each time. And i took it as a sign to switch to assassination. So here i am

[gusty mirage]

@gray crest how many terros daggers have we gotten now?

we started giving them away to people for mog

LOL

[gray crest]

3

On mythic*

[thorn fjord]

none on mythic liike a billion on heroic

[versed canopy]

no one else in my raid uses daggers

[solid mica]

Is there anything that enrages you more than a frostmage with an eon mog?

[gusty mirage]

no

this guild is notoriously bad with high ilvl dagger drops

tbh we never dropped an agi dagger all of sepulcher

I didn't get the rygelon mog until the very last raid of the expac for us

by the time we saw an EoN me and the other rogue at the time already got ours from the vault

so we gave it to someone for mog

[thorn fjord]

i dont think i got the mythic one of that

[solid mica]

Giving rogue dagger mogs to casters should be illegal

Part of the RP

[gusty mirage]

wtf am I going to do with 3 mythic eons?

[solid mica]

Put em in the bank

[gusty mirage]

oh they're already vendored

dw

[versed canopy]

oh the broodkeeper dagger dropped for me last night

on normal

[solid mica]

I had 5 at one point from original raid and fated just to dm to ppl wanting it for mog

[nocturne lagoon]

buff mages.

[gusty mirage]

another 10% for frost

they need it

ask your brother

"they need it"

[nocturne lagoon]

cries in 100k sim

[thorn fjord]

You can use the hilt as a butt plug

[gusty mirage]

look how bad they're struggling

on a fight that's terrible for them

[solid mica]

How do we get into the 6 digit sim club

[gusty mirage]

poor things

[gusty mirage]

we rewind time to beta

when we were simming for 98k

add in the puzzle box optimizations

and we're 100k

ez

[thorn fjord]

Pirate shouldn’t be that close

It’s dumb

[gusty mirage]

they're not

that's max percentile

that's people getting giga lucky with procs and shit

high rolling

[thorn fjord]

Ah

[gray crest]

5 roll into 5 roll

[gusty mirage]

but if you ask 2 people in our guild

[nocturne lagoon]

even with gamba shamans are lower than bm unlucky

[gusty mirage]

"outlaw does the same damage as assassination in ST, look at the logs!1!1!"

I've never been so annoyed in my life

[marble hemlock]

Enhance gamba build can pull stupid numbers

[barren hare]

Servers go up at 12 eastern right

[thorn fjord]

2

[nocturne lagoon]

says 11 pst

[dreamy gull]

I keep queueing with balance druids who have like half the damage of the next damage dealer

[barren hare]

F

[dreamy gull]

Dumb ass owls

[thorn lynx]

Stupid question, when we sim droptimizer, does the percent upgrade shown for the eranog ring take into account the proc if we have the helm?

[gray crest]

Yeah

[rapid forum]

Talking with dumb people about logs is cringe af, nothing good ever comes from it

[gusty mirage]

one of them was a DH

so you can imagine my frustrations

[dreamy gull]

Servers are down like every 4 days I feel like

[thorn lynx]

Figured as much, just wanted to confirm. Thank you

[gusty mirage]

same guy asked me why I don't play outlaw

one time

never brought it up again

"Why don't you mind your own fucking business?"

[marble hemlock]

If you actually have the helm, yes. If you don't, then no.

[dreamy gull]

My brain is too small for outlaw rotation

[gusty mirage]

if you want I can get you the string for the cowl

to easily sim the dps gain of the ring

[versed canopy]

I switched from outlaw cause i wanted less rng, slower pace rotation, and not to be punished nearly as hard for not being able to be on the boss 24/7

[gusty mirage]

it'll be roughly 1700-1800 dps fwiw

[marble hemlock]

Ye

[kind forge]

play MM

[versed canopy]

nah, i want rogue still

[thorn lynx]

I have the helm. The sim seemed a bit high, but I just wanted to make sure I wasn't buggin.

[gusty mirage]

nah you're not bugging, it's a shit ton of dps

[thorn lynx]

I think I'm good. I have a 418 helm. If it's taking it into account already, I should be ok.

[gusty mirage]

it was almost 1800 dps over a crit/mastery ring w/ a socket for me

[thorn lynx]

1768 dps over the foe ring (mastery/crit)

[gusty mirage]

[thorn lynx]

Friggin nutty

[gusty mirage]

only thing to keep in mind for cowl

is you have to be closer than acrobatic strikes range

[thorn lynx]

Yeah, I usually am cuz we have 3 rogues (the other two are outlaw) so I stay closer to not stack. Less movement for spider boss, terros, etc

[rapid forum]

I remember discord streaming sennarth for the people on the bench. Our ret Pala nearly pulled me through the screen once he saw how we can cheese every pull-in with shadowstep

[versed canopy]

so what would be the opener for using IC and arterial precision, like for the M+ build or council build?

[gusty mirage]

tell them if they played a better spec they wouldn't have to watch from discord

[wary ice]

every paladin player failed the first skill check of the game when they were presented with 12 classes and chose paladin

[soft shale]

you mean hunter

paladin is bae as tank at least

[gusty mirage]

no no hunters do it on purpose

because everything is a hunter weapon

[wary ice]

No no, hunters die cause they're dog shit

[gusty mirage]

#neverforget

[soft shale]

i love them

[wary ice]

paladins die cause they're paladins

[gusty mirage]

that is a fantastic question that I do not have an answer for

I would hold onto to that when whispyr is awake

he can definitely answer that better than any of us could

I've looked at 0 AP stuff

[wary ice]

Would the APL just answer that via a 4 target patchwerk sim?

[gusty mirage]

because it ruined my fav build

iunno, apl does some wonky stuff sometimes

because the robot doesn't miss a global

ever

[wary ice]

neither do i

[gusty mirage]

well you are a certified gamer

[silk rover]

ok but what's the r

[lament warren]

garrote ct er rupture fok ct exsang deathmark shiv tea

obvi you ic in stealth before pull

shiv on cd

envenom for buff uptime

on council

[gusty mirage]

where do you fit in the tears that your aoe still kinda sucks?

[lament warren]

well

you can only play sin in pugs

because ap is locked behind triple zoldycks

[versed canopy]

what time is it where wysper is?

[gusty mirage]

8am currently

[thorn fjord]

Hes PST

[lament warren]

noon

[gusty mirage]

but he just went to sleep like

[lament warren]

right

[gusty mirage]

an hour and a half ago

lmao

[lament warren]

thought he was 2h ahead of md

[gusty mirage]

he's a california boy

[thorn fjord]

yeah

[versed canopy]

ahhh

[thorn fjord]

Daisy dukes bikini on top

[versed canopy]

where is the orignal cast of snd?

[spice spire]

At the beginning of the dungeon

[thorn fjord]

this aint the OL channel bb

Also i hope your vault is better than mine @spice spire

[spice spire]

I hope we’re not on the second socket in a row

And nah, just keep CttC up

[thorn fjord]

Oh God plz no

[spice spire]

It’s easy

[thorn fjord]

Oh right i forgot about CttC

[spice spire]

This mf ain’t ever played sin in keys in his life

[wary ice]

More like ass in keys

[strange python]

You say that like servers will come up today

[spice spire]

Legitimately this is the best sin has been in keys since I started doing m+

[thorn fjord]

No lie in sight

[spice spire]

[thorn fjord]

I'm an equal opportunist

no xenophobia to any of our specs

[night plover]

Can I like... not use exsang in m+ and not lose crazy damage? really dont like it

[spice spire]

You can

[night plover]

ok awesome.

[strange python]

Because outlaw isn't one of our specs right?

[thorn fjord]

Oh it totally is

I dont hate on the pirates life

[wary ice]

every time i press fok and i have empty combo points i question why im playing assa.

[versed canopy]

what build?

[spice spire]

DTB/IC. IC has been a massive upgrade for us with scent

[versed canopy]

im going to try the AP/IC build

[spice spire]

Not a fan personally

but don’t let memes be dreams

I absolutely will not try it on tyrannical tho

[wary ice]

AP doesnt seem worth losing DTB to me, based soley on the feels

[waxen pulsar]

What poisons should I use on DTB build?

[versed canopy]

amp and deadly

[stray mural]

Deadly, amp, the slow, and Atro/mind

[flint tusk]

another non FAQ reader it seems

[waxen pulsar]

Tyvm

[waxen pulsar]

I legit did not see this in FAQ

[versed canopy]

everything but wound and instant

[waxen pulsar]

I am reading it rn

[gusty mirage]

[flint tusk]

https://i.imgur.com/gnsPxKt.png
#assassination-faq message

oof

[spice spire]

Bro I started doing keys in shadowlands

[gusty mirage]

unlucky

[spice spire]

Name one season in sl that was better than this

[stray mural]

It was pretty fun in BFA

[gusty mirage]

shadowlands never happened

nzoth won at the end of bfa

[spice spire]

I didn’t start bfa until Covid knocked me back into wow

[gusty mirage]

and that was the nzoth nightmare we lived through

[spice spire]

At 8.3. From like 4.2.

So I had a lot of catching up

[gusty mirage]

I just ate a peanut butter, banana, and honey sandwich

AMA

[spice spire]

If pork is haram, then why am I Porking your pops? 🤨

[strange python]

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