assassination

[chilly viper]

Oh hell yeah my brother

s

[rapid stratus]

but ive got 421 whisper and 411 grief

[severe sparrow]

yeah i dunno

i just reinstalled simc and it's still giving me that warning

[keen spruce]

raidbots still shows feint on the tree

for custom loadouts

getting the same issue

other specs workin fine tho

[severe sparrow]

when i go to the tree view it looks fine

like the new tree

i guess ill just toss a sim and /shrug

OH

i somehow missed deleting an old saved talent setup and that was pissing it off

[odd dew]

Hmm so does it seem best to use the extra talent point we have now in Exsang or a third point in Zoldyck recipe?

[balmy condor]

pins faq wowhead icyveins spreadsheet

[severe sparrow]

oh nvm

[odd dew]

Damn you're quick hahah gj

[balmy condor]

I mean it's patch day

would be pretty shit to not have everything updated for patch day

[keen spruce]

seems like it still works

if u just send it

with the red

[severe sparrow]

yeah except it wont take catalyst charges into account it seems?

[keen spruce]

[severe sparrow]

at least it isnt simming the chest in my vault as catalyst

[thorn fjord]

Pirates are in shambles right now

I’m scared to run a key

[keen spruce]

thank you raidbots, i'll go grab that new ring enchant right away

[keen spruce]

I switch one point in zoldyks into shrouded and it's not red anymore

[normal olive]

huuuuge upgrade

[keen spruce]

i think raidbots hates bad build enjoyers

[thorn fjord]

It’s so mean

[keen spruce]

oh actually. i think u just need to go open all of your saved talent builds

and resave them post update

maybe

idk i'm not a gynocologist

[onyx crane]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[keen spruce]

oh but wait for it! if i play shrouded

200% better upgrade for switching enchats

[balmy condor]

you don't really get how margin works do you

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/issa-joke-its-a-joke-im-joking-gif-7246089

[remote shoal]

is there any difference from "M+ arterial" and what you guys would take on council in terms of talents?

[balmy condor]

no exsang, no iron wire, taking sbs

wowhead has boss specific talent builds ya know

[remote shoal]

oh shizz had no clue tyty

Not because of you of c

[balmy condor]

aight well

kinda weird

but okay

[remote shoal]

I mean this disc just has everything alrdy

[zinc frost]

Yeah that assassination guide on wowhead, terrible

[normal olive]

[balmy condor]

wowhead has the same info

idk

just a really tone deaf thing to say

[solid mica]

!FUU

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[remote shoal]

its legit just the format. The faq in this disc goated is all

[willow tendon]

Is there a huge difference between Deadened Nerves and Unbreakable Stride?

[grim tangle]

they do different things

[slow marsh]

yeah i agree, the faq is really good information

it's almost like the faqs are written by the same person who writes the wowhead guides or something

it's that good

[tough gorge]

Arent they both why whisper....?

[willow tendon]

I mean like, is the 30% slow reduction just better than the 3% phys damage reduction?

[rapid stratus]

had an error in the talents when changing them, now showing about a 2% increase

[wind dune]

are we really not taking tricks in the m+ build?

[balmy condor]

2% increase for the bleeds?

[rapid stratus]

yea.

w/ puzzle box

[balmy condor]

you can move the utility stuff around as you wish

[wind dune]

okay was spooked just imported and went right into a 20 with no tricks lmao

[exotic hearth]

I just wanna confirm, the new raid build (only raid build now) doesn't take venom rush? Does this make haste more valuable?

[gray hazel]

are you guys just putting Mast over Crit gems in your Lariat? I have the primary and crit one, and then 2 crit over mas ones as sims show its best so far, but ive seen a bunch of peeps use 3 mast over crit ones

[magic vine]

lariat procs are grouped off the secondary (small) stat in gems

[balmy condor]

yeah, just like the bleed builds from before the patch, we don't run venom rush. It doesn't change our stat priority, just sim yourself

[woeful meteor]

Yes, but just run what your sim tells you to run gear wise

[balmy condor]

I have haste/mast in mine

[brittle cloud]

So with the new build we use the KB opener in the faq but ignore KB, yeah?

[errant jacinth]

Just checking, is assassination back to using Exsang in the raid build? Wasn't sure if everything was up to date with 10.0.5 yet

[paper tangle]

assass stuff is updated

[errant jacinth]

ty

[warm void]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[severe sparrow]

im really disappointed that this 421 waist sims as a larger upgrade than the 421 tier chest

[balmy condor]

correct

[brittle cloud]

Thanks

[vital arrow]

We don't take KB anymore right?

[balmy condor]

that's what all the guides and faq and pins say, yep

[brazen zodiac]

and whisp says too so yep

[static glacier]

evoker name: Whispyre?

[cedar timber]

My guild is progging on heroic razy and we have had some 3% wipes so should get it this week. I always played dtb build for it without exang. How does exang timings line up in that fight? Is it just opener, first shield and during lust on the last platform?

[frigid pilot]

boys

[viscid spear]

druid name: Whispurr?

[frigid pilot]

u think its ok sending catalyst on a 415 chest

when ur tier chest is 398

[barren hare]

kingsbane was a pumper

[static glacier]

can we get kingsbane instead of exsang ❤️

and just reduce its power due to dtb

atm feels impossible to take without feeling like you're sandbagging

[thorn fjord]

Swap kb and exsang.. buff exsang a little bit and boom we’re cooking

[frigid pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/really-bitch-annoyed-face-stare-whatever-kid-gif-17309831

[upbeat needle]

nerf unholy nerf unholy nerf unholy

[final star]

@balmy condor I am a dumb dumb (we knew that already)

I didn't know you HAD to use the 2nd non-lethal with dtb cos of lethal dose

would it be possible to get that added to the FAQ cos I am dumb dumb so other people may be too

[weak crescent]

Any legion timewalking gear that could be decent ?

[final star]

😔

[crisp badger]

How should i gauge ilvl parse against myself? im purple or even orange'ing but green ilvls 💀

[autumn frost]

ilvl parse is misleading.

can easily be.

if your highest level gear is your weapon that helpsan ilvl parse.

i remember people cheesing the ilvl parse by using a low level phial or something.

[crisp badger]

Ye, it can be super influenced by time/PI and shit like that, im in the 414 bracket so its just rough lol

[toxic burrow]

I just knew the vault was going to do this to me. ._. Last week I grabbed a 411 chest piece because I said "I'll just turn it into tier this week." And of course one of the options is a M+ 13/13 tier chest.

[autumn frost]

You're competing against other mythic raiders too.

also people with the diurna ring.

[weak crescent]

ooh are they not doing legion m+ ?

[crisp badger]

yeah, havent gotten ring yet on my rogue, got it first kill on my pally tho rip

[barren hare]

i had ring in my vault but no other dagger to use so i gotta keep bronze grip

[autumn frost]

You can remove embellishments you know

with sparkle powder

so you can still use the ring

[barren hare]

o :.) did know that

already got helm lmao

[rapid stratus]

anyone have/know of a time to kill weakaura?

[frigid pilot]

!whyspyr

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[grim tangle]

I miss kingsbane

[outer arrow]

ayo

DTB Raid

what are the chances of playing a build without Exs

ant NOT grief myself

[oak pulsar]

has it been ur guys experience that 4-5% crit has provided a noticeable amount of regen to see a increase in envenom cast

[balmy condor]

[teal bloom]

[outer arrow]

[teal bloom]

@outer arrow exsang is like 1.5% better for me than no exsang but I won't play it

[regal sable]

more exsang for me

[tough gorge]

Sync exsang with puzzle box. Problem solved.

[outer arrow]

i just simmed myself fuck that

[teal bloom]

That 1.6% is worth for not having to use that talent

[magic vine]

lol

[outer arrow]

amen

[storm forum]

hello, i am here to check the pins

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[slow marsh]

cap you literally just press it once or twice a fight

[storm forum]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[storm forum]

this sheet is cursed

AP outsimming KB is a sin, just seeing that is going to send me to hell

[outer arrow]

The shittier it is, the more op theyre going to buff it

no?

[fading wigeon]

killing M terros under 6 minutes really sucks as assasination

[balmy condor]

that's the hope

[strange python]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[craggy basin]

random question and probably stupid, but for the Auto Attack ring, how much damage % is the actual effect. if that makes any sense. just simming it to other rings near ilvl and not noticing the gap i thought it get

[ember relic]

Feel like sin got gutted a bit

Dunno have to play with it more

[tough gorge]

I feel like its better

Just barely though

I never used kb before tho

[rustic prairie]

Anyone else feeling more energy starved?

[ember relic]

Yes that too

[willow sundial]

🙂

[ionic fox]

YUP

[weak crescent]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[slow marsh]

2p aquired

[gusty mirage]

[fathom hound]

For the AoE opener for DTB and IC, is the opener the same, but jsut drop Kingsbane?

Looking at the picture in faq at least

[willow sundial]

fuck this game

[mighty zenith]

What should I run instead of exang for mythic plus?

[teal bloom]

you'll have to play master assassin if you want iron wire

if not running exsang

[mighty zenith]

Ok thank you

[strange python]

yes

as long as you have exsang as well

[naive sierra]

421 tier pants (from 402 tier pants) or grief torch? Sims say pants are ahead slightly, but grief torch seems too good not to take

[chilly canopy]

Does anybody know if eu servers are up? Server Status Page says so, but i dont want to Start PC only to find out its not :D

[normal olive]

yes they are

[chilly canopy]

Fancy cheers

[outer arrow]

you, in theory, already have 415 tier pants with catalyst

[naive sierra]

Tru but thats the only reason I was leaning vault pants because the 421 version only exists in the vault, whereas I can get grief as a drop down the line

[outer arrow]

it also can't

[naive sierra]

Outside of player deaths is it that good really though? It just seems like sim bait based on having someone die during the pull

appreciate the input and response btw

sim/parse bait*

for reference, patchwork 5 mins

[fathom hound]

TY!

[peak basin]

Sims say Storm-Eatern's Boon 408 will be 3K dps for me in dungeon slice. Using CCT and Puzzle now tho and they seem more flexible. Does it suck getting rooted from Boon trinket that it's not worth?

[naive sierra]

If you plan around it its not bad, you just need to know when its really not ok to use

You can use shadowstep to adjust while in it as well

[peak basin]

Ah, good to know.

[gilded seal]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[fossil frost]

how do you prevent running out of energy as assanation rogue?

[peak basin]

Sometimes you're energy starved in my exp. To prevent it keep ruptures/garrottes on multiple targets.

[fossil frost]

im trying to do mage tower so that should be a must

its cuz of the passive my energy comes back right

i forget wat its called

[peak basin]

Venomous Wounds

[rancid bane]

Are you using thistle tea?

[fossil frost]

yea but i want to learn how to prevent spam using all the time because my issue is like i run out of energy and then just keep using tea but eventually i run out

(i am a noob btw)

[warm thorn]

any feedback on how's assa now for m+ or aoe in general?

[fossil frost]

so as long as i can rupture and garrote on all 3 targets in mage tower i should just never run out of energy almost right

[peak basin]

I think someone told me the number is 7-8? I can't remember.

[fossil frost]

what is 7-8

number of wut

[strange python]

question. if i have the egnog ring and brood ring do they both proc off the same cowl damage?

[peak basin]

The number of garottes + ruptures needed to keep energy equilibrium.

[fossil frost]

cant i only get 3 garrotes 3 ruptures going max in mage tower

[rancid bane]

As mentioned already, make sure you're getting energy from venomous wounds. But really you need to be pooling your energy more. Unlike say, fury warrior, ass rogues cant just spam ability after ability. Gotta let energy regenerate a little bit first

[peak basin]

@fossil frost Not sure what the mage challenge is, but for normal DPS sometimes you pull energy. Otherwise thistle tea.

[fossil frost]

@rancid bane ok, so should i just have my char basic attacking and wait for a while for the dots to fall off?

[rancid bane]

Theres a mechanic with all dot based specs and classes called pandemic, do you know that?

[fossil frost]

i read about it in wowhead but i didnt focus too much on it cuz all of this is p overwhelming so far

[rancid bane]

Ok, pandemic lets you add more time to your dots when you refresh them. Garrote lasts for 21 seconds, if you refresh garrote with 5 seconds left, those 5 seconds are added to the next garrote

[slow marsh]

!pd

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[rancid bane]

^^

And yes, auto attacking is completely fine whilst energy is recharging

[fossil frost]

so its 30 percent of whats remaning? or just the normal duration of a garrote

[tawny geyser]

I simmed this, it says Trinket is better...but is Icon really good for Sin?

[fossil frost]

like lets say i refresh proccing pandemic at 5 seconds left, is it 30 percent of that 5 seconds left that get put onto the new garrote or is it 30 percent of 21 seconds that get put onto the new garrote

[rancid bane]

Neither i think, the 30 percent refers to the duration of the original dot. 30 percent of 18 is 5, refresh garrote with 5 seconds remaining, and those 5 are added to the next garrote. So your new application will be a 23 second dot, not 18

[opaque cliff]

Don't forget that raidbot by default assumes that the tank and healer are also in your group which might not be the case

[fossil frost]

whats 18 refer to, i thought u said garrote lasted for 21 seconds

[opaque cliff]

Tank and healer trinket

[fossil frost]

ok so garrote lasts for 18 seconds

ok

ok so its basically best to always refresh at 5 seconds

right

for garrote

what about rupture

[ionic fox]

Incarnate icon is raid wide btw

[icy fox]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[opaque cliff]

7-8 seconds for Rupture

[teal bloom]

30% refers to the new dot, not original btw

[opaque cliff]

Thanks I didn't know that

[ionic fox]

incarnate icon is extremely good & rare

[fossil frost]

but the overall garrote after pandemic has been procced makes it 23 seconds on the new one right (assuming u refresh at 5 seconds left)

[teal bloom]

yes. with rupture the earliest you should refresh the dot depends on the combo points you use on it. with 5cp it's 7.2 and with 6cp it's 8.4 seconds

[fossil frost]

i feel like im gonna have difficulty remembering wat the last combo points used was on previous rupture tbh

[teal bloom]

It's the combo points of the new rupture, not the original

[fossil frost]

wait wat

o

ok

so like

what about the rupture on the target

or garrote, i still garrote again when the target has 5 seconds left right

or does it not matter

i mean like with that logic shouldnt ij ust wait til 1 second and then garrote again

[ebon notch]

!pandemic

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[teal bloom]

sorry I don't understand

[fossil frost]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. doesnt this part state the time added to the new garrote is based on the old garrote

[teal bloom]

"The duration depends on the new instance"

[fossil frost]

i just tested it, u need to garrote at 5 seconds

[lament warren]

5 or 1 doesn’t matter

[fossil frost]

yea i guess

it doesnt matter either yea

just do it within 1-5 seconds left

[lament warren]

pandemic exists to prevent you from wasting ticks of dots while also removing the clunky gameplay of waiting for them to fall off

it’s there so that when you cast an ability you have a way to cast it at full efficiency

if you cast at 6 seconds you are wasting ticks

because the max duration of garrote was 18 + 30%

which means refresh at 5.4 or below

[teal bloom]

Yeah no pressure to refresh as soon as the pandemic window comes, just make sure you do it before it falls of

[lament warren]

refreshing at 6 means that .6 disappeared into the ether

[fossil frost]

when should u be envenoming if u need to multi dot 3 targets? im imagining that u do it like once after uve refreshed all the dots?

[lament warren]

which means you’ve wasted both real time in the form of global cooldowns and energy

[glossy vector]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[lament warren]

keeping dots up is #1 priority

getting to envenom is a bonus

but you envenom to keep slice and dice up

so if you don’t have dots up but slice and dice is going to fall

you send the envenom

when running cut to the chase

[fossil frost]

why wouldnt i keep the dot up again instead of envenom, slice and dice is that important?

[lament warren]

slice and dice big

[fossil frost]

ok

[inland heath]

for only doing mythic+ after lariat what are ppl using fangs or wraps?

[lament warren]

hold on though cuz that might not even be true

[lament warren]

cowl

[fossil frost]

what about ambush? how often do u use ambush

or vanish

[inland heath]

na i dont have ring and wont raid ever to get it

[lament warren]

you use ambush wherever you’d use mutilate

[lament warren]

it’s good without ring

[fossil frost]

@lament warren ok so its like just some random basic attack that generates combo points

[teal bloom]

you ambush when you get a proc from blindside but in 3 target you use fan of knives to build combo points

[fading mason]

is the a recommnended build for council ?\

[lament warren]

you pair vanish with deathmark always

[fossil frost]

if im in mage tower wheres theres 3 targets is it safe to assume just use fan of knives dont use ambush/mutilate?

[teal bloom]

yes

[fossil frost]

ok

[pure raptor]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[teal bloom]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/vault-of-the-incarnates-raid-tips @fading mason there's a council build

[fossil frost]

also, if ur playing assa rogue are u like straight up able to like keep fighting while maintaining high dps for like legit 10 min or something? cuz i feel like i cant do that rn

[opaque sparrow]

would you rather upgrade dagger, cowl or lariat to 418 if they are all 405?

[lament warren]

dagger

[royal lantern]

dagger ofc lol

[fading mason]

thx whispyr

[opaque sparrow]

kk ty

[twilit hollow]

!lariat

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1055055765980844093/image.png Lariat can proc ANY gem you have equipped, in any slot.

[teal bloom]

@fossil frost your dps is higher when you use cooldowns like deathmark but as long as you keep your dots up, you'll still do decent damage. Assassination rogue can be pretty hectic in multi target situation

[fossil frost]

hm ok

and i saw on wowhead u just death mark as much as possible right

something about exiguinate adn then deathmark as much as possible

like off cooldown just use it

[fringe moth]

just a note of what i found out recently, deathmark after exsang

i had no idea it was a bleed

but I'm newish back to wow, I feel like I have a pretty hard decision w/ my vault this week could anyone help w/ that?

[autumn frost]

Paste your vault

also what's your current gear?

[tired swallow]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[fringe moth]

super silly question, best way of going about sharing that through disc?

[teal bloom]

@fossil frost Yeah get as many casts of deathmark/vanish and smaller cooldowns like echoing reprimand and shiv as you can. I'm not sure what's currently is the best talent build for 3 target but Exsang seems like too much hassle in 3 target

[fossil frost]

exsang doesnt proc on everyone that has dot on them?

[autumn frost]

snip and paste as an image.

[fossil frost]

oh its only st it looks like

[teal bloom]

yes it only affects one target

[fossil frost]

damn

[fierce tulip]

ok i dont want to sound insane but on sennarth whenever im in the ice i periodically lose control of my character and spin in circles

is this like a weak aura or an addon doing this

[raw raft]

a heroic grieftorch has been given to me finally

[fringe moth]

Vault, currently only have 1 set piece and didnt know what i should do since I can guarantee 2 set with the catalyst

https://raider.io/characters/us/area-52/Auss most of my gear hear is up to date, im just checking what I have upgraded that isnt updated

[fringe moth]

weapons werent up to date on raider io but everything else should be good for what it showed

[autumn frost]

Got'cha.

[fossil frost]

how do i not take the amount of damage i take in mage tower? idk if someone casted something on me but like i just got one shotted

or not really one shotted but someone was doing like insane damage super early

[dusk fog]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[autumn frost]

@fringe moth Do you only have one tier piece currently?

[fringe moth]

Yea, they're my legs so i have those 3 options from the vault

and from what i've read fenry's fang was the bis weapon so i didnt know what the hierarchy would be

[autumn frost]

Shoulders being higher ilvl and tier would make a lot of sense.

Oh never take the fang

Costs too much valor to upgrade

and you can craft a 418 one. Even if you got 2400 rating you would need so much valor to upgrade it.

[next edge]

Sin simming 4k more than sub for me

[outer arrow]

this just happened to me today

[next edge]

[autumn frost]

honestly what you should do

is raid like you do and see if you can get another tier piece to drop

well kill whatever shoulder boss it is

and then if it doesn't drop take the 405 vault tier shoulders if it is tier from mythic plus because it can be upgraded.

[storm forum]

dude this new M+ build fucking sucks

[autumn frost]

then creation catalyst your remaining piece if you can get tier to drop

It needs to be cheat death. I imported it and was getting feint

If you're talking about non artierl precisions

[fringe moth]

ooooh that's a good call

totally am not a normal raider, just got reallllly lucky with a pug group but I'll see what I can do

[autumn frost]

lfr tier would work too

[fierce tulip]

@outer arrow did u find a fix

[eager vigil]

so are we good at AoE now? with DTB+IC

[fringe moth]

alright, thanks a bunch -- i definitely overread into the bis weapon thing

[autumn frost]

@balmy condor MIght want to update the spec faqs to recommend cheat death 😦 I went into a dungeon after importing and no cheat was painful.

[fossil frost]

is there an add on that makes it clearer what the enemy is casting? i have a hard time seeing what theyre casting in mage tower

[autumn frost]

Yup.

I think plater?

[fossil frost]

ya i have it but

i guess idk how to make things bigger

or tell me when theyre casting something

bruh i do not understand this fight

[steel ridge]

Magetower is not supposed to be easy you know

[brittle burrow]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[bitter rock]

so with changes to KB and DTB being on the same node, is going left side to where arterial precision is now basically dead? (in an m+ situation) we just lose zoldyks in m+?

[balmy condor]

yes

[balmy condor]

working on it

[bitter rock]

damn this change is not very good huh lol oooooooooof

[balmy condor]

?

[bitter rock]

kb in m+ still if we were previously doing the kb/ic build?

[balmy condor]

we do the same damage

what

have you not looked at a guide

[bitter rock]

lol just sucks to lose things is all

[balmy condor]

or a pin

or the faq

or anything

[bitter rock]

okay lol i have

dog

you are

on one

holy shit i asked a simple question

[balmy condor]

you just suggested playing KB

it makes me doubt

that you read anything

[bitter rock]

i looked

thats why i was asking

lmfao

[balmy condor]

[bitter rock]

i see it says dtb

[balmy condor]

don't play KB

KB is dead

[bitter rock]

okay

jesus

[shrewd night]

Rule of thumb: You get as much effort into an answer as you put into a question

[vital arrow]

I think it would be better if the KB/DTB choice node swapped with AP

[steel ridge]

What a dense

[balmy condor]

that would kill AP even more

[storm forum]

i dont think we want AP to be alive

[steel ridge]

Its time for slow mode

[storm forum]

i think we want zoldyck back for M+

[shrewd night]

Nah, slowmode are for bozos

[balmy condor]

wouldn't that mean you want AP to be alive?

[shrewd night]

We are all down, so why not let the kicks happen

[balmy condor]

I don't get it

it's all passive damage

who cares

[keen spruce]

puzzle box + bleed only 400dps higher than grief/tech no exang

[balmy condor]

are you sitting there praying you hit 35% hp in an aoe pack

that sounds pretty degenerate

[keen spruce]

not enough for me

[fringe moth]

out of curiosity do you have ideas of what they could do to make AP a relevant choice? honestly just want to hear your perspective of what would make it viable

[shrewd night]

Ah shit, forgot to pull out a simc string before heading to work

[balmy condor]

number up

[keen spruce]

make it hit 8 targets

like all other capped AOE in our class

[storm forum]

no im still just saving my CDs for 10 more seconds for 35% hp on bosses and minibosses and getting no value from doing that anymore cause i forget we dont have zoldycks anymore and i miss KB and idk how to deal with this grief

[shrewd night]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[vital arrow]

Would Not AP comboing with Poison Bomb at least feel better

[balmy condor]

feel better how

[storm forum]

everytime you envenom it also hits targets affected by shiv

[balmy condor]

everyone keeps feeling better

with zold

or with AP poison bomb

what feels better

are these passives you don't play around in the room with us?

they can't hurt you

I promise

you're safe

[zinc frost]

I feel better already thanks

[storm forum]

btw with DTB and amp poison, is the dump with CT on 6+ targets still the same? or are we dumping with empowered envs are higher target counts*?

[fallen charm]

is the raidbots sim broken now?

[wide hawk]

triple cape vaults should be forbidden

[balmy condor]

yeh it's the same

[balmy condor]

working fine for me

[royal lantern]

congratz, you just created crimson tempest, the complicated version

[fallen charm]

or is there a change I didn't see?

[outer arrow]

make exsang an aoe talent

[fallen charm]

this after exansg is over

[balmy condor]

okay

[royal lantern]

wrathion approves

[balmy condor]

and whats wrong with that?

[agile geode]

sims arent a bit high?

[zinc frost]

That’s normal

[fallen charm]

isn't it removing the improved garrote?

[balmy condor]

imp garrote lasts 3 seconds

[royal lantern]

it used vanish

[agile geode]

maybe not optimized for puzzlebox and grieftorch as they were before patch?

in your spreadsheets i mean

[fallen charm]

Oh I see, so I'm just dumb

[balmy condor]

sims are fine

[agile geode]

y but from 89k to 92k

[balmy condor]

spooky

[agile geode]

is a lil jump

just for info i mean

[balmy condor]

I'm shivering

idk

sims get improved

shit happens

[agile geode]

i know that things are basically the same

[balmy condor]

number go up and down

big whoop

[agile geode]

kk

[royal lantern]

@balmy condor yo, serious question for once, how bad/stupid is it that in the opener i always do dm->shiv/tea->envenom instead of dm->envenom->shiv/tea

[keen spruce]

makes your envenom worse

[balmy condor]

THAT is your serious question?

[royal lantern]

idk why i started doing that

[keen spruce]

over the course of a fight it won't mean much

[vital arrow]

Would shiv not buff the damage from poison bomb and having shiv affect more targets lead to more damage and it would be an AOE option going into AOE? That's what I was thinking

[keen spruce]

I literally didn't garrote in my last terros opener cuz I was playing payphone on max volume and didn't realize I was out of range of the boss

still did like 70k

[balmy condor]

sure but poison bomb is already dogshit

[royal lantern]

want me to do normal tryan stuff instead??? its actually assa gameplay related for once

[balmy condor]

now you buff it by 20%

if you get the proc

during the effect

which is rng

and it only hits 5 targets

which I guess doesn't matter

cause you ignore poison bomb past that anyways

[keen spruce]

but whispyr, it feeeeeeeeels better

[balmy condor]

it changes 0

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

I don't understand

people just out here feeling better

[storm forum]

has anyone tried the AP/IC build? how does it feel?

[keen spruce]

i'm feelin better about my puzzle box in my bags and exang greyed out on my talent tree

[lament warren]

pretty sure it doesn’t matter but tea envenom would be better anyway

[keen spruce]

and losing 400dps

[balmy condor]

regarding this I don't think sims give a shit it's so minor

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

it's just

completely whatever

[lament warren]

tea before shiv means you’re not covering the entire duration of tea with the shiv

but tea before envenom is entire

[balmy condor]

its off gcd

should be fine

[keen spruce]

this was the difference of literally not using garrote in my opener, only using 1 combat pot, and missing a deathmark

[storm forum]

nice

[balmy condor]

did it feel better

[willow tendon]

Umm so probably a noob question, but in the spreadsheet on single target DTB no exsang is like 2% less dps, is that super big? Kinda wanna not play with it but if it's big then idm but wanted to ask anyways

[keen spruce]

no

i was upset

but it didn't really matter

compared to tea/shiv being one global later

[balmy condor]

I don't really think anyone should care about 3-4%

as a personal thing

[storm forum]

depends how much you value not having the possibility to fuck up by pressing exsange after dm

[balmy condor]

but people will make their own stuff

and min-max

[willow tendon]

Hell yeah! okok

[balmy condor]

people fighting for like 0.2% gains

cause they want to slam

[keen spruce]

if you play 2% worse cuz you have to deal with exang

then don't play exang

[willow tendon]

I'm super happy with no exsang

Is tiny toxic blade or a point in improved poisons better? I saw the guide you wrote on method recommended those 2

[balmy condor]

yeh, method ain't fully updated yet

but usually IP

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[balmy condor]

there's builds here

all the relevant ones (and kingsbane too)

can take a look there

[willow tendon]

Thanks!

[vital arrow]

I just thought it was a good suggestion, did not know how bad poison bomb was

[balmy condor]

yeh I mean it ain't legion

poison bomb is just passive damage

we don't ever play around it

should never be in a situation where you're sitting there spam fishing for poison bomb procs

first intermission raz is the closest you get to spam fishing pb

and even then you're multidotting quite a bit

[uneven summit]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[slow marsh]

!whispry

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[storm forum]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[vital arrow]

Has blizz said anything on the change they were going to make to exnag because they preemptively neffed it and wanted to change it?

[next edge]

I'm main Sin now

Can you make me space in your bed @balmy condor ?

[balmy condor]

no

still rework/delete

[balmy condor]

[terse orchid]

Wow nice vault mr blizz. very based. 2 necks, 2 capes and the broodkeeper ring 🥲

[storm forum]

whispyr can you make room in your closet? i wanna haunt you when i die

[grim jay]

Mythic broodkeeper ring is pretty fine

[torpid ridge]

At the end of the opener for exsang i see we are supposed to use Thistle tea after shiv. i still got a good bit of energy when i get there so is it for the mastery increase?

[terse orchid]

the absorb shield one?

[grim jay]

Yes

[storm forum]

mastery and not to overcap charges

[grim jay]

Its bcs you sit on 3 stacks

[manic crescent]

assa is still poop in m+ aoe feelsbad

[terse orchid]

It seems kinda trash. Keeping me alive is the healer's job

[torpid ridge]

true makes sense. figured it was something like that

thanks

[grim jay]

Big ilvl big stats. Sim it

[manic crescent]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[steel ridge]

why?

[next edge]

Sounds as a skill issue

[drifting cedar]

Feels strange that there isn't a DTB w/o exsang build in the faq

[fallen charm]

I think I hit a crit milestone or this weeks changed priorities a bit

[balmy condor]

feels more strange to recommend it when it's a full 2% worse

cause then I'll get people going "eh why are you recommending a bad build"

[keen spruce]

anyone know which gives more healing throughput, leeching or recouperator?

[outer arrow]

"cuz people ask for it"

"they also hate it"

[drifting cedar]

Woah 2%? I didn't realize it was that big, my sims are showing me it's less than 1%

[balmy condor]

leech by a factor of 4-5

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

it do be like that

[drifting cedar]

SHEESH

[grim jay]

Freakig statweights

[keen spruce]

if you're not a puzzle boxer

it's much closer

[zinc frost]

“New patch, can’t wait to see my old friend kingsbane”

[keen spruce]

[grim jay]

Is that an option ?

[drifting cedar]

408 puzzle box vs 421 kurog trinket do be like that

[keen spruce]

reject the meta

throw your puzzle boxes in the sea

[grim jay]

So you cant wait to see your old friend dead in ditches

[eager vigil]

Is really assa still bad at aoe? Couldnt play yet

[grim jay]

Spit on

[keen spruce]

it's always an option

[shrewd night]

wdym "still bad2

[keen spruce]

it wasn't bad before and it is still not bad

but it is also not better

if that's what you're asking

[shrewd night]

People do be throwing some wild statements around

[terse orchid]

kinda disappointing for a 418 ring

[grim jay]

Bro its not SSS+++ on some random streamers tierlist. Wdym its not bad?

[grim jay]

Yeah I said M

[eager vigil]

Oh ok thankw

[simple gulch]

is the fire cowl bis for sin too?

[vestal wren]

yes

[simple gulch]

coolio

[vestal wren]

its bis for all 3

[grim jay]

M Version is basically good bcs of 430 ilvl

[vestal wren]

basically cowl + lariat

[terse orchid]

29 ilvl upgrade over current rings tho

[simple gulch]

so i shouldn't take 421 helm tier

[vestal wren]

depends

[keen spruce]

if you ahve 4 piece w/o it then I wouldn't

[vestal wren]

if you have the fire ring for cowl

[keen spruce]

but if you need 4piece it's a good pick up for gains rn

[vestal wren]

you might not want to if you aim to get bis

[true rapids]

Anyone got tips for the mage tower?

[simple gulch]

I don't but I can catalyze it

[terse orchid]

Get shadowlands legendaries i think

[keen spruce]

if you have a high ilvl catalist thing

[grim jay]

Wait did you sim ST with AoE talents?

[keen spruce]

then do that and craft a cowl. but if you don't have the ring yet

[simple gulch]

i have 421 shoulders rn in vault

[keen spruce]

it's not gonna be that pog yet

[simple gulch]

yeah I don't

[terse orchid]

yeah only realized after it was done, but figured it's all relative anyway

[keen spruce]

I was using flaring cowl for 2 weeks before i got it

didn't really lose much dropping the wep enchant if anything

wep enchants are kind of meme

[true rapids]

says legacy effects inactive

[austere radish]

Sup, I have just seen the changes on talents..
we do play IC with DTB now?

[terse orchid]

Oh then I was misinformed

[keen spruce]

kill the thing before you die

[true rapids]

I see

[grim jay]

Nah do it again for safety reasons

[jade abyss]

We play cowl only with ring?

[balmy condor]

we play cowl always

[fossil frost]

should rly ban people like this

[balmy condor]

but especially with ring

[jade abyss]

Aight

[terse orchid]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[grim jay]

I mean there are 1000 videos on it

[fossil frost]

and?

[grim jay]

And guides

[fossil frost]

and?

does that mean = be useless

[balmy condor]

I need to hit mage tower in the face and update the talents

[fossil frost]

get help

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/jok-joke-it-was-a-joke-look-penguin-gif-14579006

[jade abyss]

Slap that b****

[balmy condor]

it's just perma up right?

[keen spruce]

but irrc assas MT was pretty straight forward

it's also been many years since i've done it

[terse orchid]

all 3 were pretty easy iirc

[balmy condor]

it's indeed very straight forward

[keen spruce]

Outlaw was kind of annoying

i remember that one being a pain

being undergeared at least

[true rapids]

why does mage tower say my blind is buffed but blind doesnt work on any of the bosses lol

[terse orchid]

Only annoying thing about that MT is having to play Outlul

[keen spruce]

I dabble in the dirty pirate ways on occasion

[grim jay]

Overly sensitive on the Web.
Could just Google it straight up and be done with it. Magetower is barely a relevant topic in the spec channel anyways

[keen spruce]

do i feel good about it? no

is it fun? not really

[thin ingot]

I wish that instead of IC we would have gotten a finisher that spreads rupture and garrote to nearby targets

[grim jay]

Sub was hardest for most

[keen spruce]

I remember 0 things about the sub one

but i'm pretty sure i did it

[jade abyss]

I guess you must play feral for that

[balmy condor]

that would just destroy all multi-dotting on the spec forever

[fossil frost]

@grim jay yea if ur a new player asking for advice on mage tower (sure he couldve worded better) he should be given a joke like this is some elitist cult yea good 1

[terse orchid]

Who shat in your oatmeal, bud

[fossil frost]

ahaha wow..

[keen spruce]

he didn't seem that offended tbh

[terse orchid]

This discord is already the most helpful wow resource out there, let people have some banter

[slow marsh]

Hey guys I parsed 99s for ilvl in normal tonight. Am I good yet ?

[keen spruce]

and it's not like i'm the only one allowed to answer him lol

i'll go do MT rq and make 2023 youtube guide brb

[tender kelp]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[shrewd night]

Could you? Thanks homie

[keen spruce]

o7

[grim jay]

I mean, using your own means to get Info that is old af and got covered 500 times is pretty weird, right ? People spend their freetime to prepare stuff so others can look it up with ease

[zinc frost]

You could parse 1s and I’d be proud

[lament warren]

i scrolled up expecting some egregious comment and it was just the tip from a classic loading screen

[keen spruce]

yes chef, right away chef

[grim jay]

Pls

[shrewd night]

Based

[outer arrow]

based and true

[fossil frost]

tfw u admit that that info is old asf and u then agree with someone actively preventing from new info being spread

u are not cringe

[terse orchid]

@grim jay i crie errytiem

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-gta-sa-cj-gta-again-gif-20425950

[thin ingot]

its better to parse a 1 than a 20

[grim jay]

Yep is offended enough for both

[keen spruce]

how did I actively prevent new info from being spread

LOL

[gusty kestrel]

vulpera..

[balmy condor]

yes man

[lament warren]

how’s he actively preventing the spread of info that nobody has

what heck

[balmy condor]

I got cute ears tisu

what do you have

hall of fame?

[slow marsh]

600 dps

[balmy condor]

pathetic

[grim jay]

What you need to do is old af bcs the content is old. Please use brain

[keen spruce]

yep conveniently didn't give any tips either

[gusty kestrel]

a cancelled sub

[lament warren]

is that tisumi inventor of alacrity

[balmy condor]

aight kinda based

[fossil frost]

yea let me give him tips when im new too, id be pretty annoyed if i asked a question (u clearly know what he wants) and then given some joke response like that

[shrewd night]

Why dont you put some more effort into your game and make some 2023 guides for classic

[gusty kestrel]

the one and only

[lament warren]

holy

[fossil frost]

jesus not being cringe is a bit too hard ig

[keen spruce]

this is the most ironic statement i've read this year

[lament warren]

you’re allowed to be cringe here

you’re doing it rn

[grim jay]

Its a fine increase but ye, chest agi big and also wont replace for long depending on raid

[lament warren]

everyone gets the pass

[shrewd night]

This is a safespace for cringe

[lament warren]

^

[shrewd night]

Actually I take that back, wrong channel. Outlaw is.

[keen spruce]

yo where tf is this mage tower i'm actually gonna go do it

[shrewd night]

Gottem.

[gusty kestrel]

imagine not being cringe when ur mod is a furry boy

[zinc frost]

So was Jesus cringe or hard which one was he?

[terse orchid]

He could be both

[keen spruce]

deliverance point yes?

[true rapids]

broken shores

[terse orchid]

This whole turning the other cheeck thing was kinda cringeworthy

[jade abyss]

Ravenholdt is the discord of cringeness 🤔

[oak sky]

i am cringeacus

[keen spruce]

u know the best part

[slow marsh]

Is there no one else

[grim jay]

Wonder who is cringe

[keen spruce]

i'm gonna go watch a legion MT guide to remember how to do this. go do the MT. then answer yep so he stops being mad at me

[shrewd night]

I think yall have batista bombed the man enough, let him be

[lament warren]

no i am cringeacus

[lament warren]

bautistab (ombed)

[shrewd night]

I saw it, but didnt want to edit

[true rapids]

im getting clapped lol

[grim jay]

Not you. The other lad

[keen spruce]

no no we weren't pickin on u

[late veldt]

The 6 limits per character of catalyst charges is that just how many u can carry?

[keen spruce]

[true rapids]

misreplied

[eager vigil]

Is flaring cowl helm only good with diurna ring?

[thin ingot]

How hard do you try to clip in envenoms during EP? like would you 4cp to clip it in during EP?

[vestal wren]

yes

[grim jay]

Seriously tho, there are MT guides that still apply. I'd just go with a standard build depending on the Situation

[shrewd night]

Avoid the charges, soothe the angry guy, do some kicks

[drifting cloud]

isnt cowl good without the ring aswell

[keen spruce]

i just walked in there and got shit on

[terse orchid]

Sounds like this discord

[grim jay]

Thats Log review

[balmy condor]

wait

mage tower is fucking free

hello?

[zinc frost]

Surely MT is easier than it was in shadowlands, since covenants/legendaries disabled etc

[shrewd night]

[gusty kestrel]

did u do garrote 123 whispyr

[balmy condor]

I went in completely blind with a half-ass talent setup and no macros

[terse orchid]

do we even get something from MT?

[shrewd night]

Whispyr went in blazing and told them to

[grim jay]

So, in about 5 mins you finish the guide, thats about right ? No copy paste from old one !

[gusty kestrel]

do u want a tap on the head for doing content uve done before

[zinc frost]

Transmog set

[balmy condor]

no but this is like giga easy

I did mage tower day 1 in legion

[gusty kestrel]

was it ever hard

[terse orchid]

A new one or just an old raid set?

[balmy condor]

and I did mage tower again when it came back

and this is BY FAR

the easiests

[gusty kestrel]

well guess when they nerfed halls of valor

[zinc frost]

Nah just the same one as before

[gusty kestrel]

they also hit that part of halls

[true rapids]

guess im just bad then can't soothe the berserker btw

[balmy condor]

don't need to

you just evasion it

[grim jay]

Do you get scaled down in ilvl?

[gusty kestrel]

just evasion blast

[balmy condor]

ye

[gusty kestrel]

no pussy shit

[subtle tundra]

love from romania!

[grim jay]

Well

Gonna do a vid on it so blizz can nerf sin

Instead of the challenge

Being buffed

[shrewd night]

Just copy paste old video, new title and be like "Do this, but its quicker."

[keen spruce]

kidney berzerker, dodge axes, kick bolts. step on purple shit when it comes up, grab valk when it comes up. brust big guy on the big cast

I think

i'm just kinda winging it in there but i'm pretty sure that's the gist of it

[grim jay]

"This is actual footage, I just slowed down for you to see"
"Why is there Vendetta?"

[gusty kestrel]

ignore axes, just leech, ignore bolts, just leech

[shrewd night]

"I just macrod the skill to show another icon on hte bars, promise."

[gusty kestrel]

wasnt there some crusader abuse tech back in the day

[keen spruce]

oh yeah and there's a wall thing

u gotta stand in the gap

oh not big guy for the burst. it's the runecarver dude

break shield and kick the cast

[grim jay]

You had to say "Deus vult" 3 times into your mirror at night.

[dark bridge]

anyone else feel a big difference in keys?

[gusty kestrel]

what

[dark bridge]

or are the new talents easier to play around

[terse orchid]

Yeah bosses seem to die way quicker than last week

[subtle tundra]

this in not optimal for updating world of warcraft

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

232 gb?

bro

you're playing off of a USB?

[subtle tundra]

buddy no money for bigger ssd

[balmy condor]

wtf

[jade abyss]

xD

[keen spruce]

brother what

[grim jay]

Its 2023 whats that drive

[keen spruce]

[subtle tundra]

its just the ssd

you fuckers

[keen spruce]

can we crowdfund this man an ssd

[terse orchid]

I have the same lol

[grim jay]

No way you dont have 2 1TB ssds atleast in 2023

[balmy condor]

1tb ssd is 60-70 usd

what is that in romanian pesos

[grim jay]

Are you even a gamer

[gusty kestrel]

5 goats for 1 tb in romania

[terse orchid]

Mate I play with 20 fps at most, you tell me if i'm a gamer

[keen spruce]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOc4ON4v2rI

[zinc frost]

A miserable gamer

[keen spruce]

here if this goofy vulpera can do it

[subtle tundra]

its way more

tf

[keen spruce]

clicking vendetta, evasion, and cloak

then i believe in all of you

[balmy condor]

bro that guy is JUICED lmao

[keen spruce]

and fan apparently

[subtle tundra]

and i did just spend uh >~$50 for 16gbs of ram

[balmy condor]

he's rocking like 25 sockets

[grim jay]

Ye its 120 Euro here

[gusty kestrel]

1tb samsung evo ssd

[terse orchid]

don't mind me, just doing siege on dragonbane keep

[gusty kestrel]

80 bucks

[naive sierra]

Really caught between 421 tier pants and a 411 grieftorch out of vault, anyone have any input? Pants are simming higher, but grieftorch seems too good to pass up and my guild isnt going back into heroic after this week, only mythic prog

[tender kelp]

Morning, quick question. Got 421 back from vault 2x - one crit/haste, second mast/crit. They both sim the same, which do you think I should take? Running 41% crit and 40% mastery right now.

[keen spruce]

doesn't mean he's not a goofy vulpera

and a clicker

[terse orchid]

Pugging brood isn't hard if you're doing mythic prog

[naive sierra]

Yea but I cant imagine trying to roll on a grieftorch lmao

[balmy condor]

yeh dude just cheesed the fuck out of the fight

[shut thistle]

Keep in mind you can turn non-tier stuff into tier stuff.

[naive sierra]

Agreed but the 421 pants only exist in vault =\

[empty hinge]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[keen spruce]

7.5 minute cheese

[warm urchin]

i feel like im so energy starved in ST w DTB + IC build, is that normal or i should get more haste?

[grim jay]

Grieftorch hc isnt even that good

Just get M icon

[subtle tundra]

cheese me

time to open my vault with 0 m+ done last week

[craggy basin]

not sure if i missed it in the FAQ but do i hold mark for exang or just use both on cd , just make sure to exang first before mark when they do overlap?

[grim jay]

How would you do m+ if your smol ssd is burning

[true rapids]

Is the MT only here for legion timewalking?

[subtle tundra]

rude

[austere radish]

is Atrophic or Numbing Poison better?

[shrewd night]

[subtle tundra]

NOT AGAIN THE DAGGER

GIVE ME THE FINGER

[drifting cloud]

🖕 here u go

[grim jay]

[subtle tundra]

well the chest is a bit of an upgrade

[slow marsh]

Just a little

[grim jay]

Take socket

[shrewd night]

Shame it gives dog ass normal transmog despite being mythic tier

wahoo

[grim jay]

Dunno. Tier looks ass anyways

[shrewd night]

[lament warren]

that’s just wrong

warlock tier looks good

[subtle tundra]

i think the chest is >1k+ dps

[lament warren]

[grim jay]

Ye but rogue got done bad

[lament warren]

in multi target definitely

[grim jay]

Mage looks good aswell

[terse orchid]

Literally every expansion

[subtle tundra]

ayo this patch tryna kill me or what giving me this

[grim jay]

I love Legion nighthold set

Im rocking the blue pvp elite version since then

[subtle tundra]

wheres the catalyst

[keen spruce]

rogue transmog looks good as a full set

[shrewd night]

At least spell it right, dumbass @slow marsh

[keen spruce]

but unusable with any mix and matching

[slow marsh]

Help I'm being censored

[subtle tundra]

uh

penis

youre welcome

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-shut-up-bitch-gif-24566267

i'm sry that was aggresive

[grim jay]

You denied helpful info

[lament warren]

quest at the top

from watcher guy

then tyrhold

[keen spruce]

[subtle tundra]

awesomesauce

ty

[slow marsh]

That was the whole point but you deleted so now nobody will know

[keen spruce]

he left before i posted all of the info and guides probably gonna come back in here and be mean again next time i make a joke now cuz he didn't see

[subtle tundra]

i've had this guy follow me since raid start

he has a quest

i will never get the quest

[lament warren]

that’s renown shit

he’s just a little guy

[subtle tundra]

im cucking him

[grim jay]

I think he/she/they just wanted to make the World a better place and change you into a better person. Should respect that

[lament warren]

can just say they

[grim jay]

Dont know, I'm german

We dont use that

[keen spruce]

i think they should respect these nuts on their forehead

[subtle tundra]

no way i have to fill a bar for catalyst

[slow marsh]

Yep

[royal lantern]

but we do

[slow marsh]

Go do lfr or something

[grim jay]

Just wait until raid break

[keen spruce]

if you do like 2 zones of WQs it fills

[subtle tundra]

yea its after hc

[grim jay]

Weird.

[lament warren]

[balmy condor]

[shrewd night]

do world boss on two chars

youre welcome

[grizzled moon]

!Whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[subtle tundra]

its account wide?

[dapper flint]

Oh well now guildie arms war sims more than me with 421 puzzle, sadge

[subtle tundra]

what the technology???????

[grim jay]

I dont even know what you would use as a german word actually. I'm so rude and badly informed

[strange python]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[royal lantern]

the charges are acc wide aswell soooo

[slow marsh]

!whipshhyr

[shrewd night]

[slow marsh]

! whisper

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[subtle tundra]

what the hellllll

[earnest imp]

Anyone know what's the difference between running exsang or having that point in improved poison? Dps % diff

[subtle tundra]

is this 2023?????

[grim jay]

!wispar

[slow marsh]

69

[terse orchid]

2% loss to drop exsang

[torn atlas]

That gave me a good chuckle. Surely explained by it defaulting to the first option on the node, but I like to think the devs were trying to prank all of us.

[grim jay]

!wihzbah

[earnest imp]

Stinky Varas, have you liked the new m+ build? 🙂

[subtle tundra]

ITS 10 AM ON WEDNESDAY

[next ingot]

Hi, do we use then the Kingsbane + Ex opener, but without kingsbane?

[subtle tundra]

I WOKE UP AN HOUR AGO

[earnest imp]

Haven't still done any m+?

[balmy condor]

openers are in the faq

[earnest imp]

Wow slacker